[03:39] Cheri703: Hey, mind emailing me your busy/free days? (Bare info, can also put in days you don't want :P ) [03:46] I'm off work on sundays and mondays [03:49] Seemed to have forgotten that. [03:49] no worries [03:50] it's only been like 2 weeks that I've been on that schedule [03:50] Seeing if EricR2427 can. [03:56] k [03:56] I probably can't do anything tomorrow, as I'm working through a pretty nasty chest cold [04:07] Generally, and hope that hasn't lasted long. [16:39] paultag, this is the code for your FOSS about.me project, right? - https://github.com/paultag/practically-me [16:39] jrgifford: jep [16:39] jrgifford: it's buggy, but try out http://me.anized.org/paultag/ [16:40] it sucks with non-widescreen [16:40] jrgifford: contribute to it! :) [16:40] * jrgifford looks [16:41] i think jcastro will be excited [16:41] jrgifford: he doens't give a shit :) [16:41] lol [16:41] jrgifford: sadly no one really likes this [16:41] jrgifford: but I do, so I'm going to work on it [16:41] i like it. [16:41] thanks :) [16:42] I'm going to add github support first [16:42] it'll become pretty slick if I keep true to where I think it should be going [16:43] jrgifford: I need to add some hacks to make the pages less sucky on long-ways screen [16:43] somehow the assholes behind the major browsers fucked up their own spec [16:43] if i remember right, about.me sucks there as well [16:43] ‘cover’ [16:43] Scale the image, while preserving its intrinsic aspect ratio (if any), to the smallest size such that both its width and its height can completely cover the background positioning area. [16:44] my fucking ass it'll scale for height [16:44] what idiots [16:44] jesus [16:45] but yeah [16:45] flickr and github integration are next [16:45] I also understand both are nonfree [16:45] do i look like i care? :P [16:45] i mean, we're not the software freedom foundation for crying out loud. [16:46] jrgifford: I care :) [16:46] and i'm definitely not RMS. ;D [16:46] but not that much [16:46] out of the open source options for github, [16:46] you've got gitorious, launchpad and that's about it [16:46] gitlabhq is pretty nice [16:46] and who uses gitorious? [16:47] scratch that, gitlabhq is very nice [16:47] oooohhh.... gitlabhq looks awesome [16:47] * jrgifford installs on his server [16:47] it's rails [16:47] wich is meh [16:48] ruby *does* have some of the best git bindings [16:48] thanks to github open sourcing grit. :S [16:48] mmm [16:48] tis true [22:03] Anyone try the "ubuntu business remix" iso yet? [22:07] business remix? [22:07] I hope they ripped out unity... [22:07] haha [22:07] nope, just removed games, etc [22:07] non-business stuff [22:07] stuck flash and openjdk in [22:07] i'm going to give it a spin [22:08] you have to register to download it though, which is lame [22:08] Keeping unity is lame. :/ [22:09] well, that's the center of their desktop world now...doubt they'll ditch it [22:09] <_bbb> thats the concensus.. ive decided [22:09] i'll be interested to see how computer idiots (sales people mostly) react to it though [22:09] i'm going to force it on some of them... [22:09] <_bbb> thats not very pc [22:10] it's very pc [22:10] whey're winidiots [22:10] windiots [22:10] <_bbb> PC LOAD LETTER?!? [22:10] sales people are the worst [22:10] <_bbb> its fun to stereotype [22:10] <_bbb> but yeah [22:11] <_bbb> stereotypes for a reason i guess [22:11] no...no stereotypes, only countless hours of real life data I work with [22:11] <_bbb> yes just memories for me thankfully [22:11] maybe i only ever deal with the loser sales people... [22:11] <_bbb> but ive done it.. some of them are my good friends still tho [22:12] would explain why they don't last more than a few months [22:12] you were sales? [22:13] hmmm...my in-laws must just attract the shittiest sales people then... [22:13] <_bbb> no [22:13] <_bbb> just sales friendly [22:13] <_bbb> in other news [22:14] <_bbb> start a new job in 3 wks [22:14] is it sales? ;) [22:14] <_bbb> unix/linux sys eng [22:14] fuck yes [22:14] <_bbb> punching computars [22:14] in the NEO? [22:14] <_bbb> but its more than that [22:14] <_bbb> weaving and bobbing [22:14] <_bbb> defensive blocking [22:14] <_bbb> yes same company im at now [22:15] sounds like some M$ is involved [22:15] you work your way up or something? [22:15] <_bbb> movin on up to the east side [22:15] good job george [22:15] <_bbb> next tier [22:15] <_bbb> quad damage [22:15] you pass your brown belt test or somehting [22:16] <_bbb> heh no [22:16] * canthus13 is actually starting to like Mint. His wife and girlfriend are both using it now and it's pretty nice, gnome 3 and all. [22:16] <_bbb> born that way [22:16] <_bbb> yes ive moved to mint mostly [22:16] <_bbb> also love the crunchbang [22:17] Crunchbang is nice, but.... [22:17] 1 person in charge of the entire project is a bit... unsettling. [22:17] did everyone just miss the "wife and girlfriend" comment? [22:17] thafreak: ...I thought you knew. [22:17] * canthus13 shrugs. [22:18] apparently not [22:18] <_bbb> open source. open marriage.. ok [22:18] _bbb: That's an interesting way of looking at it. :D [22:18] thafreak: Yep, thought it was odd, but knew. [22:18] <_bbb> amirite? [22:20] <_bbb> anyway.. i love the spirit of ubuntu but not thier version of unity [22:21] don't really dislike unity...just think gnome 3 is actually better so far [22:21] and i've had fewer problems with it [22:22] <_bbb> yeah *shrug* [22:22] with the exception of the silly mint menu, I like Mint. Gnome 3 isn't as obnoxious as I expected. [22:23] I liked Xubu and Lubu, but Debian is looking really good once you set it up. [22:24] I may end up switching to Mint Debian. [22:24] But so far I like my openbox enough to deal with a few more iterations of ubuntu. [22:24] i went the debian desktop route for a bit...but certain software went out of date too fast [22:24] like web browsers [22:24] Testing? [22:25] and some stuff wasn't packaged for debian, but it was on ubuntu [22:25] The rebranding of Firefox is a bit annoying, yes. [22:26] yeah, I think deb testing is a bit better...BUT when a new release happens, and testing opens back up...LOTS of packages need updating [22:26] anyone on the ubuntu-server list? [22:26] watching the removal of mysql debate is pretty interesting [22:28] Looking to replace with m clone? [22:28] MariaDB [22:28] yeah, talk of swapping it out with mariadb [22:29] i guess mysql's bug tracker went private [22:29] among other things...and something about vuln announcements being cryptic [22:29] sounds like oracle is oracling the mysql community [22:29] * canthus13 hates it when they obfuscate vulnerability announcements. :/ [22:30] * thafreak hates it when oracle oracle's a OS community [22:31] Wonder what'll happen to VirtualBox, no forks yet that I know of. [22:31] thafreak, is the talk about removing MySQL *legit*, serious and (mostly) free of trolls? [22:31] Unit193, VirtualBox seems to be strong, Oracle hasn't completely destroyed it. Yet. [22:32] "Yet" being the key word. [22:33] yes, but i don't think they'll ruin VBox. [22:33] mysql was bad to begin with IMHO, VBox at least has a fighting chance. [22:36] I'll fully admit that I'm "using" MySQL now, but I don't see MariaDB in the repo (Last I knew it was a drop-in replacement.) [22:39] yeah, it's packaged by the mariadb people, but for whatever reason, it's not been pulled into debian [22:39] hopefully that will change by precise...but dunno, time's running out [22:39] Doesn't play nice with the MySQL packages it seems. [22:40] i don't think it'll be in precise. [22:40] for a few reasons, but among them is the "its an LTS, if we wanted to do this we should have done it on natty" argument [22:44] BUT [22:44] it's an LTS release, and security updates are of the utmost importance [22:45] "One thing to note, the primary motivator for this proposal isn't about [22:45] moving to a more "open source friendly" application. We have genuine [22:45] security concerns/issues with how MySQL handles and publishes their [22:45] security updates." [22:47] http://ninjadeveloperclub.com/ [23:05] sounds racist [23:05] also [23:05] you're racist [23:05] it should be a blank page [23:06] also, so much bootstrap.js [23:06] erm, .css [23:15] thafreak, didn't hear about the security concerns. they are valid. [23:15] paultag, don't go hating on bootstrap [23:15] just hate on *companies* who use bootstrap [23:16] i think a developer who makes something in one night can use bootstrap, but a company that uses bootstrap should have their entire company, from the garbage boy to the CEO shot and hung. [23:16] :P [23:18] jrgifford: I use bootstrap [23:21] Can we shoot him? [23:35] paultag, for professional projects? [23:39] jrgifford: jep [23:42] I don't know you any more. :P [23:47] jrgifford: it's for administrative stuff [23:47] that only us (the developers) see [23:47] but it's part of a professonal project [23:47] oh, ok thats ok then. as long as the end user/paying customer isn't seeing it i'm ok with using bootstrap. :P [23:47] ergo, suckit [23:47] lol [23:48] if *anyone* has to see someone else's bootstrap [23:48] yer doing it wrong [23:52] so, I've never used this bootstrap before [23:52] why you guys so against it being used by end users? [23:52] http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ [23:53] im against it because if everyone uses bootstrap for their front facing UI [23:53] then we'll never see a well designed website again [23:53] oh ok [23:53] makes everything look like twitter or something? [23:53] yup. [23:53] nothing bad about it technologically then? [23:54] now, i'm really liking this use of bootstrap though, because even though it uses bootstrap, it doesn't look like bootstrap - http://blog.dasroot.net/ [23:54] jrgifford: also that fleetr thing [23:54] technologically, nothing - other than the fact @fat doesn't like semicolons in his JS. [23:54] http://www.fleetio.com/ [23:55] paultag, never heard of it. zerb foundation [23:55] they use hella bootstrap [23:55] that doesn't look like bootstrap at all. [23:56] ? [23:56] is that sarcasm...i can't tell [23:56] thafreak, what, about fat not liking semicolons? [23:57] or not looking like bootstrap? [23:57] no about fleetio not looking like bootstrap [23:57] it doesn't use a lot of the big tell tales. [23:57] aka, the bit fat topbar, the border menus etc