/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/02/13/#ubuntu-za.txt

magespawnmorning sll06:53
magespawnall06:53
inetprogood morning magespawn06:53
inetprooh and good morning to everyone else06:54
magespawnwhats up this fine Monday?07:01
=== confluency_ is now known as confluency
* Kilos greets ubuntu-za09:49
Kiloshiya maiatoday 09:49
Kiloshi superfly 09:49
Kilosmagespawn, you alive09:50
Kilos?09:50
KilosMaaz, coffee on09:50
* Maaz starts grinding coffee09:50
Kilosnuvolari, dag seun , gaan jy darem môre aand se LPI kan bywoon09:52
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!09:54
Kiloswb JabberwockyA19 marcog_ dLimit Maaz 10:00
KilosMaaz, coffee on10:00
JabberwockyA19hehe again :P10:00
JabberwockyA19hi Kilos10:00
Kiloshiya JabberwockyA19 all good there?10:01
* Maaz puts the kettle on10:01
Kiloshey confluency you been quiet10:01
JabberwockyA19yeah, just very hungry NEED food :)10:01
Kiloswow took maaz a minute to put the kettle on10:01
Kiloslol10:02
KilosMaaz, you getting old?10:02
MaazKilos: What?10:02
Kilosha ha10:02
KilosMaaz, not what "I beg your pardon"10:02
MaazKilos: *blink*10:02
Kilostwit bot10:03
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!10:05
KilosMaaz, ty10:05
MaazYou are welcome Kilos10:05
KilosMaaz, whats for lunch10:05
MaazKilos: whats for lunch is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe10:05
Kilosgrrr10:05
Kiloswhat is for lunch10:07
Kilosgrrr10:08
KilosMaaz, what is for lunch10:08
MaazKilos: A bowl of miso soup and noodles10:08
superflyhi Kilos10:08
Kiloshi superfly innersoul 10:08
superflyinnersoul: before you ask: no, there are no females, and no we are not a dating channel. This is a channel about Ubuntu, the free operating system.10:09
innersoulhalo 10:10
superflythere we go10:10
Kiloshehe10:10
Kiloswell done superfly 10:11
Kilosi missed the chatmosphere bit10:11
=== marcog_ is now known as marcog
* Kilos goes to request an account with the study peeps10:26
* inetpro likes superfly's super psychic sixth sense10:36
inetproeish, Kilos, he's gone again?10:39
Kilosoh my10:39
inetproMaaz: waar loop jy rond vandag?10:40
Maazinetpro: What?10:40
Kiloswhats with the biography in the lpi site10:40
inetproKilos: what site?10:40
Kilosat least 50 words. the cheek10:41
Kilosinetpro,   http://linux-studies.za.net10:41
inetprothat's not a lpi site10:42
Kilosits our study group site man10:42
inetprothe lpi site is at http://lpi.org/10:42
Kilosyou wanna borrow may mail addy?10:42
Kiloscall it gmdomdonner10:43
inetproKilos: our site it has a different name10:43
Kilossigh10:43
inetpro:-)10:43
Kilosthis info just arrived in the lists from the apie who has been making it10:44
Kilosand the fly supplied the10:44
Kilosum10:44
Kiloser10:44
Kilosserver/webtool/interface whatever10:45
Kilosi forgot what its called10:45
Kilosnow dont argue inetpro  go and request an account10:46
Kiloseish van der merwe's are a stubborn breed10:51
inetproKilos: heh, I requested an account on that site just after it was registered 10:54
Kilosso whats with all the haggling then inetpro 10:55
inetproit still is not an lpi site10:55
Kilossigh10:55
superflyplace nice, kids10:56
superfly*pay10:56
superfly*play10:56
Kiloshehe10:56
superfly(gah, not used to this kb)10:56
Kiloshaha10:56
* Kilos tries again10:56
Kiloswhats with the biography in the linux studies site10:57
inetprosuperfly: thanks for that confirmation 10:57
inetprosuperfly: the site is just a bit slow on my side10:57
superflyKilos: you don't need to worry about it, it's just so that I know who the person is who is applying10:57
Kilosyeah takes a while to open10:58
Kilosoh is it for your info superfly not the monkeys10:58
superflyinetpro: yeah, I know it's slow... busy working on it when I'm not dealing with a naughty two year old and a pregnant wife10:58
Kilosi was mailing him a queery10:58
superflyKilos: it's just part of the way the plugin works10:58
Kilosand the same username and real name10:59
Kilosi gotta be miles there?11:00
superflyKilos: whatever you want11:00
Kilosok i try and see if it accepts kilos11:00
inetprosuperfly: np11:01
superflyinetpro: try now?11:08
inetprosuperfly: seems a bit faster, what did you do?11:14
Kilosek sukkel11:14
Kilosgot the verification mail but now it tells me there is no Miles or Kilos os msdomdonner registered11:15
Kiloswhat did i do wrong?11:16
nuvolariKilos: weet nie oom, sal sien of ek dit kan maak môre aand11:36
Kilosnuvolari, ok11:36
magespawnhi Kilos11:37
magespawnwas busy else where11:37
nuvolariek sal moet sien :-[ ek't te min vingers deesdae11:37
Kilosnp you forgiven11:37
Kiloseish nuvolari 11:38
superflyinetpro: initially I told it to use memcached for caching... then I switched that off.11:46
superflyNow I looked, and I saw that memcached is not actually running, which explains it :-)11:46
inetprosuperfly: ahh11:46
* inetpro remembers having such slow issues with an internal mediawiki at some stage11:47
superflylet's turn it on and see if it makes a difference11:47
superflynot bad...11:48
magespawnjust having a go myself11:49
magespawnsuperfly do you have a logo? do you want one?11:59
superflymagespawn: you're welcome to try a logo12:00
superflyI don't have one, but I thought a tux reading a book would be a good one for Linux Studies12:00
magespawnsa flag in there somewhere12:00
magespawnon the cover of the book12:00
Kilosno flags12:01
Kiloswe wanna get anyone involved12:01
Kiloshad a guy inna netherlands say he is joining us12:01
magespawnmaybe a flag for every country that joins like for active ppl12:04
Kiloslol all those pics eat data12:04
magespawnsuperfly once i get the confirm email and follow the link then what?12:06
* Kilos listens12:06
magespawngood point kilos12:06
Kilosi tried to log in after that but it dont see me\12:06
Kilossays you not registered hey magespawn if you try login12:07
magespawndo not have a password12:07
Kilosalso if you try get account details it doesnt recognize me12:08
Kilosbut it sent me 2 mails12:08
Kilosim lost there12:09
magespawnthere was not request to put one in, so assumed that there would be one emailed to me upon account creation.12:09
Kilosya it said so but try get there12:09
Kilosim sure we are missing something12:10
magespawnyes but what?12:10
Kilos? i sukkel everytime i try register at a place12:11
magespawndid you put a password in?12:11
Kilosno was no place for one12:11
Kilosand 2m data used already so i wait till you say how to get in first12:12
magespawnexactly usually there is or the site sends you one after you confirm your email address12:12
magespawnsomething went wrong somewhere. superfly will sort it out when he has time.12:13
Kilosim sure i read somewhere it said it will send a password but it doesnt recocnise me username or email addy12:13
Kiloslol i have tried from 2 mail addies12:13
Kilosdoesnt accept any username from me12:14
magespawndo not think that is the problem, looks to me like something that is supposed to happen has not.12:14
Kilosah12:14
magespawngot to go to the bank bbl.12:14
Kilosok12:15
Kiloshi psychicist 12:36
Kilosdont forget tomorrow night hey?12:36
psychicisthi Kilos 12:37
psychicistI'll try to be there, but I'm not sure if I12:37
psychicistwill be able to make it, since I don't have an internet connection at my "new" home12:37
Kiloslol just move everything else outa the way12:38
Kilosoh my  that sucks12:38
Kilosget a broadband modem quickly12:38
psychicistwell, it's at my dad's and he doesn't have much of a need for an internet connection12:38
Kilosor visit a friend with a connection12:39
Kilosah12:39
Kilosdont you guys do broadband12:39
Kilosusb modems12:39
psychicistbut I will try to be online somewhere else like here, I am just not sure I will be able to make it12:39
Kilosok you can always read the logs later12:40
psychicistI've had broadband in all the places I've lived for the past 10 years but not where my dad currently lives12:40
Kilosoh is there no cellphone connection there12:41
Kilosthat sucks12:41
psychicistI don't have a data plan on my cellphone either, but I hope this will be temporary before I can move to another place but that is dependent on a few other things, so I can probably online during the day at some places but probably mostly not at night12:42
Kilosah12:43
Kiloshow come nick change12:44
psychicistthis is my original nick, actually12:44
Kiloslol12:44
psychicistthe other one is my cellphone nick, I like being online on it12:44
psychicistbut now without an internet connection, I don't have wifi on it either12:44
Kilosouch12:45
Kilosi find it hard work to do irc on a fone12:45
psychicistI've got used to it since I first tried it, it's been five months since I got a smartphone12:46
psychicistpeople often ask me if I'm really typing on a phone or a computer, because I'm quite fast at typing12:47
Kiloslol i find it hard work. a qwerty keyboard is mush easier12:48
Kilos*much12:49
magespawnback12:58
Kiloswb12:59
psychicistit is much easier, but I'm surprised I'm not that slow at all12:59
psychicistit was much worse when texting on my old feature phone12:59
psychicisthi magespawn 12:59
Kilosmagespawn, psychicist is our friend from the netherlands12:59
magespawnhi psychicist 12:59
magespawnhere is a bit of irony for you13:00
psychicistI ended up here accidentally, after someone asked me to find a channel for Afrikaans :)13:00
magespawnxchat on linux is free the version for windows you have to pay for13:00
magespawnthat is spoken here sometimes13:01
psychicistI thought it was free software on all platforms13:01
magespawnso did I 13:01
Kilosyeah magespawn im sure ian has xchat free on win713:01
psychicistI didn't know that, I have joined his channel and pretend to be speaking Afrikaans13:01
Kilosi will ask him, maybe you looking at the wrong site13:02
magespawnnot the version i am using want me to pay $19.9913:02
KilosMaaz, google free xchat for windows13:03
MaazKilos: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "Download - X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/download/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "XChat for Windows (Win32)" http://www.psyon.org/projects/xchat-win32/ :: "XChat 2 Build Lineup for Windows" http://b0at.tx0.org/xchat/ :: "xchat-wdk - Google Code" http://code.google.c13:03
Kilosi think ian has the silveex one13:04
Kiloswill ask him13:04
Kilosthats a ripoff trying to charge13:04
magespawnthis one is the one trying to charge http://xchat.org/windows/ the third one on the above list13:08
nuvolarigeez :-/ xml can be really really verbose if it wants to13:31
zerefhurrrr14:07
zeref1st lecture of logic design, already a test written o0o014:08
magespawnlater all.14:28
dLimithttp://xkcd.com/538/14:33
KilosMaaz, tell magespawn on freenode http://www.silverex.org/download/16:12
MaazKilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode16:12
KilosMaaz, coffee on16:13
* Maaz starts grinding coffee16:13
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!16:17
KilosMaaz, ty16:17
MaazYou are welcome Kilos16:17
Mezenirhi all16:24
Wolfeyesafternoon all16:25
Kiloslo Wolfeyes nlo16:29
Kiloseish neelsie escaped16:30
psychicistlike many others I filed a bug for Muon Software Centre in Kubuntu 11.10, it still hasn't been fixed after a month16:33
psychicistbut apart from that it works pretty well, at least here at the office16:33
Kiloslooks like that battling to get to everything 16:34
psychicistthe so-called solution of disabling third-party updates in order for it to work again isn't really a solution at all, though16:35
psychicistyeah, I worked around it by installing Ubuntu Software Centre16:35
Kiloswow have they left software centre out16:35
psychicistbut I hope it will be fixed for 12.0416:35
Kilosused to be part of default install16:36
psychicistwell, there is Muon Software Centre but it's a bit buggy16:36
psychicistit worked on the first install, but after updates it stopped working16:36
Kiloseina16:36
psychicistMuon itself also seems to work, it's just that Muon Software Centre that doesn't work16:37
Kilosdoesnt 11.10 have synaptic16:38
Tonberrynot by default16:39
Kiloswow that out too16:39
Kilosthey need all the space to get unity working16:39
superflyMaaz: tell kbmonkey that the wiki should be a little faster now.16:41
Maazsuperfly: Okay, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode16:41
WolfeyesHeya superfly 16:44
Wolfeyesheya Tonberry 16:44
Wolfeyesheya psychicist Kilos 16:44
psychicisthi Wolfeyes 16:45
Wolfeyessuperfly, what made you choose kubuntu over ubuntu as a server?16:46
WolfeyesAnd will kubuntu work just as well in the tutorial as would centos superfly ?16:47
=== nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn
Kiloswb nlsthzn 16:52
nlsthznalo :)16:52
Wolfeyesheya nlsthzn 16:55
nlsthznAlo Wolfeyes 16:55
Wolfeyes:-)16:56
nlsthznWhen do you know that you have more "mouse" than you need?16:59
Wolfeyeslol17:00
WolfeyesWhen you can't click on the cheese.....:-P17:01
nlsthznNo it is actually a serious question :p - This one I got has a built in ARM processor 17:01
Kilosnlsthzn, when it starts chewing your cables up17:01
nlsthznlol17:01
Kilosnlsthzn, to do what?17:02
Tonberrycan you run linux on it?17:02
Kilossurely there cant be much more the left right click and scroll and centre click?17:02
nlsthznI was thinking that maybe someone will try one day :p17:02
nlsthznIt is a lazer gaming mouse ... http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei17:03
Kiloswhew17:03
nlsthznIt uses the processor to make double the dpi it gets .... or something like that...17:03
nlsthznA powerful 32 bit ARM processor allows Sensei to reach up to 11,400 DCPI.17:03
nlsthznAll greek to me... my hand is tired using it because it is so sensitive (buttons press for nothing)... I am used to cheapy mouses you have to put your weight on to press17:04
Kiloslol17:05
WolfeyesOk I am heading home, have fun all.17:06
superflyWolfeyes: I use Ubuntu Server as my server17:06
WolfeyesOk17:06
WolfeyesTy.17:07
nlsthznCheers guys... had a terrible day at work and get to do it all again in a few hours :( - Night17:07
Kilostoods nlsthzn 17:08
Kilospsychicist, http://linux-studies.za.net17:13
Kilosafter the lpi course we gonna be doing python with our resident python pro17:14
psychicistKilos, thanks, that's going be quite some fun17:16
psychicistI'm doing scala at uni now, I have to finish my assignments for it in the next few hours17:17
Kiloswhew work17:18
psychicistwell, it's just one that I have to finish but I don't know how exactly to get it to work17:18
psychicistI was working on them for several hours yesterday too and finished almost all of them except for that one17:18
Kilosyou missed something17:38
KilosMaaz, tell magespawn the site has a manual acceptance so you should have a mail giving you the temp password17:48
MaazKilos: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode17:48
Imba_join #imba18:00
Kiloshi Imba_ 18:01
Kiloswhy whats there18:01
Imba_nah im new to irc so epic fail18:02
Kiloslol18:02
Imba_:p18:02
Kilosare you using ubuntu?18:03
Imba_yea atm sadly18:03
Kilossadly?18:03
Kiloswhats the problem?18:04
Imba_lol yea i normally use windows but it crashed18:04
Kiloshehe18:04
Kilosi do sadly when i need to use windows18:05
Kiloseven to play a game18:05
Imba_lol yea linux needs more gaming support18:07
Kilospsychicist, if you do the same tomorrow then you will be online for the linux classes18:11
superflyImba_: linux has a lot of gaming support18:15
superflyI use a program called Desura to buy Linux games18:16
psychicistKilos, sure, I may be here tomorrow18:36
Kilosyay18:37
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:57
afrodeitycrop circles and ubuntu, the unholy kernel19:08

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