[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: On board USB is 2.0 I take it?
[00:00] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: yes
[00:00] <Andrew131> 3.0 was only introduced into the problem via me trying to rule out the onboard usb controller
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> Do you have the complete DMESG or syslog entry?
[00:01] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma:
[00:01] <Andrew131> Sure
[00:02] <newbie-bob> Mailserver question. In /etc/postfix/main.cf I have [relayhost =   smtp.someisp.no] and everything works fine. I have to use this   relayhost since my ISP has closed port 25. My ISP tells me that   if I dont want to use their relayhost I have to configure my   mailserver to use a ssl port like port 465. Then I can remove   the relayhost option. Do anyone know where I do this like which   files to edit and is this possible if I don
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I'm seeing a ton of posts on the issue dating back a ways...
[00:05] <Andrew131> All with no sollutions
[00:05] <Andrew131> =\
[00:05] <mamina> Hey, that's cool, I was just switching off my computer when i saw this easter egg (is it an easter egg?) on the right! :http://alturl.com/n53kn
[00:06] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Yeah... sadly this isn't the first time I've seen issues with USB and motherboards.
[00:06] <mamina> http://alturl.com/n53kn
[00:06] <Andrew131> heh
[00:06] <Andrew131> Im going to restart the system and get a fresh log
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> k
[00:08] <Andrew131> sorry its taking so long the boot time on this sucker is crazy
[00:09] <newbie-bob> Anyone familiar with mailserver issues?
[00:15] <transporter> Expert on mailservers?
[00:15] <theunholy> Can someone help me getting SSH to work?
[00:16] <theunholy> i can sudo ssh localhost and type in my password and it works, but when i use putty from my windows machine with the ip address is asks for username...thats ok then password is says access denied...
[00:17] <transporter> theunholy: have you set port 22?
[00:18] <theunholy> set port 22 in what sir?
[00:18] <theunholy> putty? yes
[00:18] <theunholy> openssh, yes i think its set to 22 in the conf
[00:18] <transporter> using putty. put in ip to your machine and port 22 (ssh)
[00:19] <theunholy> yep, that is what i am doing in putty
[00:19] <transporter> it works for me.
[00:19] <theunholy> Not for me :(
[00:20] <sankey_> Question here, how would somebody go about making contributions to official packages?
[00:20] <MoleMan> I'm using a live CD to move my root to LVM but I'm getting errors saying no space left, when there should be, and the disk usage analysis doesn't add up...
[00:20] <transporter> then I dont know how to help sorry.
[00:21] <cfhowlett> sankey_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[00:22] <histo1> MoleMan: howare you tyring to move root?
[00:23] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: http://pastebin.com/nQbCzWhy
[00:23] <Andrew131> 19:20:26 is where the messages start that recreate the issue
[00:24] <MoleMan> histo1: sudo cp -rv /media/Ubuntu Server/* /media/LVM/
[00:26] <MoleMan> histo1: its even recognising that the LVM is 174GB and UbuntuServer(the old HDD) is 113GB
[00:26] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: did you get the link?  I wasn't paying attention and my bat died
[00:30] <Oer> MoleMan, with a space in "/media/Ubuntu Server/*" ?
[00:31] <freeroute> For security considerations, is it possible for to be exploits be planted on machines which do not run any services which have open networking ports?
[00:31] <zykotick9> theunholy: if you run "sudo ssh localhost" my guess is you'd be connecting as root (not really a good idea for SSH to allow root).  If you "ssh localhost" with your user, can you login?
[00:31] <freeroute> oh god what happened to my grammar
[00:31] <MoleMan> Oer: well with a backslash before it... (IRC on phone, couldn't be bothered to find symbol) it was copying fine, until it decided the disk is full, which it's not...
[00:33] <ray1claw> hello, i have a problem and need help: i installed kubuntu-full onto my ubuntu laptop (asus k53ta - llano a6, radeon 6650m), i reboot, and now i have no display.. it all goes black, and i can hear the login sounds though. Anyone?
[00:33] <Viman> Is the use of a Firewall necessary in Ubuntu (like it is in windows xp) or more of an add-on?
[00:35] <cfhowlett> Viman: "necessary" depends on your POV and paranoia quotient.  *buntu/linux are not CURRENTLY seen as high yield targets by the bad guys
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> Sorry Andrew131, dozed off
[00:36] <Viman> cfhowlett: I see.
[00:36] <finish06> is J.Edgar a good movie?
[00:36] <Andrew131> np Im not really expecting this to ever work at this point, Im thinking of yanking the drive out and putting it in the box but I'll probably have to buy a esata controller because the board only seems to have scsi
[00:36] <Uluru> are there negatives/positives to encrypting the home folder on install (as a new user)?
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> Uluru: Only if you are sharing your machine with other people, or using a laptop that will be out a lot and could easily be stolen
[00:38] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I have a feeling that it's a driver issue at it's core... seems to be out for awhile but I'm not finding any submissions on bug trackers which concerns me
[00:39] <pragmaticenigma> Uluru: Positives is that it will keep your stuff private from others should your computer ever be stolen.  It's negatives are if you ever forget your password, you will NEVER get your data back
[00:39] <joallard> I am experiencing this bug (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658600), but it says "fixed". What now?
[00:39] <Andrew131> Which leads me to want to bank this sucker out of its external case like a broken tooth =D
[00:39] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: was there a particular reason that you were trying to use this externally?
[00:39] <freeroute> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner
[00:40] <freeroute> oops, nvm
[00:40] <bobenhaus> anyone watch Lilyhammer yet?
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> joallard: It might not have been pushed out as an update yet... Once something is fixed there is still more testing
[00:40] <Uluru> pragmaticenigma - thanks.
[00:40] <Andrew131> Just ease of setup.  I only have SCSI on the board so to use esata I'll have to add it
[00:40] <ray1claw> hello, i have a problem and need help: i installed kubuntu-full onto my ubuntu laptop (asus k53ta - llano a6, radeon 6650m), i reboot, and now i have no display.. it all goes black, and i can hear the login sounds though. Anyone?
[00:40] <joallard> pragmaticenigma: so how I do I stop the bug?
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> Uluru: Even on my laptops I don't use it... instead I create encrypted files of stuff I want to keep private
[00:41] <Jimm_> is it possible to get help on installing here?
[00:41] <del> hello all
[00:41] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: yes
[00:41] <cfhowlett> Jimm_: yes.   provide details...
[00:41] <cfhowlett> del:greetings
[00:41] <pragmaticenigma> joallard: Most cases you may have to wait... We are only a couple months away from the realese of 12.04... I would see if it gets fixed then
[00:41] <del> i was wondering - is there a way to change what programs are displayed in dash home in unity?
[00:41] <Jimm_> trying to install to a 2.5tb but it wont partitoin right ot something, im not sure
[00:42] <chaos_zero> how can i make a directory always have certain permissions even if you add files to it? this is ubuntu server so i need to use terminal.
[00:42] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: i think you need to use a gpt partition table
[00:42] <del> for example, it says "browse the web" - and wants me to use firefox.  what if i want to set that to chromium?
[00:42] <cfhowlett> Gentoo64: due to size?
[00:42] <Gentoo64> yea
[00:42] <Jimm_> can i do that from the live disk?
[00:42] <Gentoo64> i think anything over 1.5 or 2tb needs it
[00:42] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: gparted can do it easily
[00:42] <joallard> So basically, solution is... change OS?
[00:42] <elbaze> i begin to enjoy the spirit of your #ubuntu channel
[00:42] <theunholy> Why am I haveing so much trouble with this bull.
[00:43] <theunholy> All i did was install ssh...and i cant connect to the fing thing
[00:43] <Jimm_> so i should try to partition before install, not use the resize option on instal live disk?
[00:43] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: to chnage the partition table, itll delete the whole disk
[00:43] <cfhowlett> Jimm_: that's one way...
[00:44] <Jimm_> thats fine, the disk is empty
[00:44] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: ok, well the installer should have gparted, go into that
[00:44] <Gentoo64> at the top under partitions (i think) there should be an option "create new partition table" or similar, do that and choose gpt
[00:45] <theunholy> ANYONE?
[00:45] <del> can anyone help on that question?
[00:45] <Jimm_> kk. its not possible to install straight to 2.5tb is it?
[00:45] <muelli> !anyone | del
[00:45] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: yes
[00:45] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: you mean use the whole 2.5tb as /
[00:45] <Gentoo64> ?
[00:45] <Jimm_> yes
[00:45] <Gentoo64> if its 2.5tb you might as well partition it tbh, its huge
[00:45] <urfr332g0> del, settings will allow you to set favorite apps, anty browser is okay.
[00:46] <urfr332g0> any
[00:46] <damo22> Jimm_: its good to separate system from data
[00:46] <joallard> I'm thinking of writing an app that will count the time I spend on bugs in Ubuntu and calculate how much that would cost at minimum wage
[00:46] <Jimm_> fair enough
[00:46] <Andrew131> lol
[00:46] <del> ubottu:  that was the real question.  it was how do i switch from firefox being the listed default browser in unity dash home to chromium.
[00:47] <damo22> Jimm_: in the event of a catastophe its easier to grab a smaller partition off a disk
[00:47] <urfr332g0> joallard, you have some good depression meds you may need them after that analyse. :)
[00:47] <hays> how do I installed the sun jdk in ubuntu
[00:47] <MoleMan_> I'm trying to move my root onto an LVM with a liveCD but its giving me errors saying disk full, when its not :/ any ideas how to fix? I think its because the Live CD has magically given itself a total filesystem of 125GB which doesnt match anything I can see...
[00:47] <joallard> urfr332g0, think of the thousands!
[00:47] <Jimm_> is ext4 best thing to use?
[00:47] <damo22> Jimm_: or wipe the system partition to upgrade
[00:47] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: yea
[00:47] <cfhowlett> Jimm_: yes
[00:48] <h00k> !java | hays
[00:48] <joallard> There could be a section where you get to see what you could've bought with that money... car, house, who knows?
[00:48] <del> urfr332g0:  okay.  please let me know - how do i change my favorite apps in unity's dash home?
[00:48] <theunholy> Anyone know how to setup SSH?
[00:48] <damo22> theunholy: i just did it
[00:48] <muelli> !anyone | theunholy
[00:48] <Viman> theunholy: about to ask the same thing haha
[00:49] <damo22> theunholy: sudo apt get install openssh-server
[00:49] <freeroute> theunholy, Viman: what do you want to know? security tips?
[00:49] <cfhowlett> theunholy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[00:49] <pragmaticenigma> muelli: Please be more helpful than using the room bot
[00:49] <theunholy> I installed the damn thing
[00:49] <Viman> freeroute: general information, really
[00:49] <joallard> It is inconceivable to me that you can't be "just a user" in Ubuntu. You *have* to be a developper/troubleshooter of some sort. Else, you can't get anything done
[00:49] <theunholy> but it wont let me putty into it from my windows box
[00:49] <urfr332g0> del, I think it is settings not dash home you can get to settings from the logout shutdown dropdown top right of top pab\nel.
[00:49] <Viman> but I guess I'll just rtfm
[00:49] <urfr332g0> panel
[00:49] <damo22> theunholy: is it behind a NAT router?
[00:50] <theunholy> asks for username, i put it in, asks for password, i put it in and it says access denied
[00:50] <theunholy> i have the ports forwarded etc
[00:50] <joallard> I've never been so attracted to Macs before using Ubuntu. amazing.
[00:50] <damo22> theunholy: maybe its not configured to accept plaintext passwords
[00:50] <theunholy> How do I fix that?
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> theunholy: what user are you trying to log in as?
[00:51] <theunholy> the one im in?
[00:51] <del> urfr332g0:  ok, i'm in settings.  what i'm saying is that "dash home" part - can i modify the applications it suggests for me in system settings, then?
[00:51] <theunholy> not root
[00:51] <freeroute> Viman: SSH is awesome, you have ssh which is the client and you have sshd, which is the daemon (running on a server for example), so you got a configuration file in yo homiez directory and you edit it. You edit it goood...
[00:51] <Andrew131> theunholy: since your using port forwarding is it at all possible that theres a second ssh server your connecting to?
[00:51] <chaos_zero> i have a web server and i have to -R 777 the website folder every time i add a page or something or clients cant access those pages. How can i make it so everything in the folder is automatically of the correct permission?
[00:51] <damo22> theunholy: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:52] <nicehs> im trying to "runas /user:ap someapp" then it says "chroot(2) to directory before execution", anyone know what to do? to make it work?  im root and want to runa program as the "ap" user.
[00:52] <theunholy> ok damo?
[00:52] <del> urfr332g0:  specifically, when i click dock home, it gives me shortcuts.  one of them is to "browse the web" - but it has a firefox icon.  i want to change that to chromium.
[00:52] <theunholy> and no im running only one ssh server on it
[00:52] <freeroute> Viman: also, you can connect remotely so you don't have to walk across the room. When I realized I could do that with my home server I was like... awwww yeah time to grab some popcorn and chill in this seat.
[00:52] <theunholy> i have a virtual machine with ubuntu server installed and just installed openssh
[00:52] <muelli> chaos_zero: well. 777 are never the right permissions. You probably want to add those files as group "www-data". Make sure you are in that group (using gpasswd or smth similar) and then you can do smth like "newgrp www-data" before adding the files.
[00:53] <Andrew131> theunholy: Im not saying running only one ssh on the machine is there only one ssh server behind the nat ?
[00:53] <theunholy> Yes
[00:53] <theunholy> Should only be one
[00:53] <joallard> okay, why the hell won't they update gtk+ to bugfixed versions?
[00:53] <urfr332g0> del, default app usage of spefic things such a s pdf file or media in in the right click properties menu of the app you want to show such as a pdf or a media file. In setting is a favorite default for like which browser to use etc.
[00:53] <damo22> theunholy: vms do different types of networking, you can do nat, bridged or private hosting
[00:53] <Viman> freeroute: sweet!
[00:53] <theunholy> i have it bridged with replicate on
[00:53] <freeroute> Viman: also you can forward ports and stuff, this way it becomes easier to download porn at work and your sysadmin would be like "Welp, looks encrypted. Seems legit!"
[00:54] <damo22> theunholy: in that case you are not connecting to the right machine
[00:54] <theunholy> ?
[00:54] <damo22> theunholy: likely you are trying to connect to the host os
[00:54] <del> urfr332g0:  i'm not quite sure i follow.  for the dock, yes, a right click lets me say let it stick or take it off...
[00:54] <damo22> theunholy: since they will share an ip
[00:55] <del> urfr332g0:  but for the dock home if i right click, it just opens the app.
[00:55] <theunholy> but only the ubuntu has a ssh server running
[00:55] <urfr332g0> del, not the dock rught clicks but on a actaul thing like a pdf or a media.
[00:55] <damo22> theunholy: what is the host os?
[00:55] <theunholy> Windows 7
[00:55] <ray1claw> can someone please help me? i'v stated my issue above
[00:56] <theunholy> and the vmware has a different local ip then the host...
[00:56] <damo22> theunholy: maybe you have an ssh trojan
[00:56] <damo22> :P
[00:56] <Andrew131> lol
[00:56] <theunholy> ?
[00:56] <Jimm_> anyone know why i cant make an extended partition
[00:56] <theunholy> that makes 0 sense
[00:56] <theunholy> i just installed this today
[00:56] <urfr332g0> del, you don't righty click there for what I suggest but the access thing within its folder.
[00:56] <theunholy> how the fuck can i have a ssh trojan
[00:56] <muelli> ray1claw: sorry, I won't scroll for you. So please restate your problem.
[00:57] <ray1claw> hello, i have a problem and need help: i installed kubuntu-full onto my ubuntu laptop (asus k53ta - llano a6, radeon 6650m), i reboot, and now i have no display.. it all goes black, and i can hear the login sounds though. Anyone?
[00:57] <Olya> Hi all!
[00:57] <urfr332g0> !language > theunholy
[00:57] <Viman> same way you can have any trojan
[00:57] <ray1claw> muelli, ^
[00:57] <theunholy> and the ubtunu's local ip is 192.168.1.143 and the host ip is 192.168.1.143
[00:57] <chaos_zero>  muelli: thanks for the reply. i just skimmed man gpasswd and dont quite understand, but disregarding that, it still sounds like you are saying i will have to assign the new files a command every time. I am looking for a way that anything in the folder just works without having to change it every time. For example some people might upload files to it with FTP but then no one can download them until i use the chmod.
[00:57] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: not sure why not, you can make primaries
[00:57] <del> urfr332g0:  ok, so what folder would chromium be in?
[00:57] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: how are you partitioning the drive?
[00:57] <damo22> theunholy: theyre the same dude
[00:57] <Olya> How recover delited folder with files in Ubuntu?
[00:57] <theunholy> not internal ips
[00:57] <freeroute> Viman: also, you can use SSH to get on a computer wherever you are and surf like it's there, so that means that for example you're on the moon... and you notice that wikipedia article about farting in the space suit is blocked there! Except on Earth where it's still safe and decriminalized. The moonlegion however does not realize that they have an Ubuntu h4x0r in their midst. So what you basically do, is SSH into your homie server, port forwa
[00:57] <theunholy> one is 192.168.1.147 and one is 192.168.1.143
[00:57] <cfhowlett> Olya: if they're in the trashcan you can restore...
[00:58] <MaynardWaters> evening, I just nmaped my ubuntu 11.04 and there is something called freeciv running on port 5555, I am trying to run something else on this port, when I googled freeciv it is a game, and I found it in the ubuntu software center, but It shows that I do NOT have freeciv installed, any ideas what is up with this?
[00:58] <urfr332g0> del, dud your on the moon what do you want chromium to do bw the defaULT BROWSER?
[00:58] <jrib> !recover | Olya
[00:58] <theunholy> my internet ip is the same obviously, but that is why i only have ssh running on ubuntu @ 192.168.1.143 and the router forwarding that port to 192.168.1.143
[00:58] <Jimm_> not really sure, this is my first time with ubuntu and only ever partitiond with windows before
[00:58] <Olya> no in bin
[00:58] <muelli> chaos_zero: well. several strategies. One would be to have a sticky bit on the folder people are writing to, so that all created files are automatically in the proper group. The other strategy would be to make the user have the www-data group and maybe default to it.
[00:58] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: just make it a primary
[00:58] <del> urfr332g0:  ok - i got it.  i just changed it in chromium preferences to be the default browser - then it changed it in the dock from firefox to chromium.  that's all i wanted to do.
[00:58] <Olya> thx ok i go read
[00:58] <Jimm_> its lets me make a primary then nothing else
[00:58] <Gentoo64> Jimm_: gpt can handle loads of partitions
[00:58] <damo22> theunholy: surely you can ssh from putty in the host os to the vm
[00:58] <ray1claw> muelli, i cant access the cli on normal boot, but i have it on right now via recovery..
[00:59] <muelli> ray1claw: sounds bad. Can you ctrl+alt+f2 to a terminal?
[00:59] <urfr332g0> del, cool .:)
[00:59] <Olya> ext4undel here projrct?
[00:59] <Canadian1296> When is the next LTS released? Like not a beta, the final release?
[00:59] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296: april
[00:59] <Olya> where?
[00:59] <hays> h00k: that got me the jre, do you know how to do the jdk?
[00:59] <jc-2> good night, how can I use aptitude -f to solve some break dependencies?
[00:59] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Thank you
[00:59] <muelli> ray1claw: get /var/log/Xorg.0.log  (or smth like that) and pastebin it for reference.
[00:59] <theunholy> Thats my problem..
[00:59] <theunholy> i go into windows 7 and try to use putty to ssh into it
[00:59] <theunholy> and it denies the passwor
[00:59] <h00k> hays: do the same thing, just instead of jre, get the jdk
[01:00] <chaos_zero> Ok, how do i creae te this "sticky bit"? =D
[01:00] <theunholy> putty has the ip of the network, it asks for a username...thats fine, then password is access denied
[01:00] <muelli> well theunholy. Have you ever looked into the log of the machine you're trying to SSH into?
[01:00] <pnorman> theunholy: can you ssh in to the machine from the machine?
[01:00] <theunholy> Yes pnorman
[01:00] <damo22> theunholy: cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | pastebinit    that will paste your ssh config into a pastebin
[01:00] <muelli> chaos_zero: man chmod. Probably smth like chmod g+s directory/
[01:00] <theunholy> i can do sudo ssh localhost and it just asks for the password no user
[01:00] <chaos_zero> ill check it out thanks
[01:01] <pnorman> theunholy: by default ssh uses your username
[01:01] <theunholy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839882/
[01:01] <ray1claw> muelli, uhh, i can open the file in nano, but how do i pastebin it without the gui? or transfer to my desktop maybe?
[01:01] <hays> h00k: apparently i have to sign in wtf
[01:01] <hays> h00k: not your fault but wow
[01:02] <muelli> ray1claw: well. there is "wgetpaste" or similar tools.
[01:02] <h00k> hays: I don't know what you're referring to
[01:02] <del> alright.  time to figure out more cool stuff to do with this OS.  be back in a bit!
[01:02] <damo22> theunholy: uncomment the line 51
[01:02] <Gentoo64> ray1claw: i dont think ubuntu has wgetpaste, it has pastebinit afaik
[01:02] <hays> h00k: oracle is making me create a stupid account to download the jdk
[01:02] <h00k> hays: it's in the repo
[01:03] <hays> where?
[01:03] <ibmthinkpad> I am using a IBM thinkpad, running windows XP from 2002 with no service packs. the computer does not read the USB stickwhen I select "other devices" from the boot menu. When I tried a boot dick, it just made noise for two minutes before running windows as usual. The computer just freezes when I try to view the USB stick or the boot disc now. What do I do?
[01:03] <ibmthinkpad> *disc
[01:03] <Gentoo64> boot dick?
[01:03] <cfhowlett> h00k: software center...
[01:03] <ibmthinkpad> lol disc
[01:03] <ibmthinkpad> typo
[01:03] <h00k> hays: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk, or in the software center
[01:03] <h00k> cfhowlett: what?
[01:03] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad: install plop boot manager to boor from usb
[01:03] <damo22> theunholy: do that then save the file and quit
[01:03] <hays> h00k: I need oracle/sun jdk not openjdk
[01:04] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad: go on plop websitre for instructions how to install from windows itself
[01:04] <nicehs> im running a vnc desktop where im using console and typing as root after doing "su", now when I try open wireshark it says "gtk warning  cannot open display: :1.0" .. anyone know why? I am pretty sure that the (only) display im using now IS actually 1.0, Ive also tried specifying it specificly in the app like "wireshark --display=:1.0" and says the same
[01:04] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, does the computer boot from a usb?
[01:04] <ray1claw> Gentoo64, okay thanks
[01:04] <damo22> theunholy: then you will need to restart the sshd server process
[01:04] <cfhowlett> ibmthinkpad: wonder if that model supports USB boot?
[01:05] <Gentoo64> if its old i doubt it..
[01:05] <Gentoo64> other devices is probably floppy or something
[01:05] <Jimm_> i got it guys, thanks for pointing me in the right direction, would have been sat here hours more lol.
[01:06] <damo22> theunholy: hows it going
[01:06] <theunholy> ok i deleted the # on line 51
[01:06] <Olya> Ext3undel work with ext4?
[01:06] <ray1claw> muelli, i have two files here, Xord.0.log and Xorg.1.log
[01:06] <ray1claw> both?
[01:06] <muelli> ray1claw: the .0.log is fine
[01:06] <damo22> theunholy: did you save and quit the editor
[01:06] <theunholy> Yes
[01:07] <damo22> theunholy: sudo service sshd restart
[01:07] <ray1claw> muelli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/839887/
[01:07] <theunholy> Same stuff
[01:07] <theunholy> doesn't work
[01:07] <theunholy> this is stupid
[01:07] <ibmthinkpad> Gentoo64: where do I get that?
[01:07] <damo22> theunholy: did you type the username correctly
[01:07] <stampede_dude> hello
[01:07] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad: type plop boot in google and youll find the main site
[01:07] <h00k> theunholy: did you restart the ssh service? sudo service ssh restart
[01:07] <muelli> hm ray1claw. The log shows the errors. Check the entries with "EE".
[01:08] <theunholy> yes
[01:08] <Olya> PLEASE HELP!
[01:08] <h00k> !ask | Olya
[01:08] <Olya> I can recover name of files?
[01:08] <ibmthinkpad> urfr332g0: the computer insists on booting from the hard drive
[01:08] <theunholy> I'm done giving a fuckl
[01:08] <Gentoo64> Olya: as in what?
[01:08] <Olya> ext3
[01:08] <Gentoo64> !patience | theunholy
[01:08] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, use theplop app as suggested then.
[01:08] <Ben64> theunholy: watch the language
[01:09] <ibmthinkpad> I have used the USB port succesfuly to transport files before.
[01:09] <h00k> theunholy: you've been warned before about your language.
[01:09] <Olya> i remove files ((( Help Please!
[01:09] <ray1claw> muelli, hmm, its either finding no screens or finding bad screen config
[01:09] <h00k> !undelete
[01:09] <h00k> Olya: ^
[01:09] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, transport and boot are not the same
[01:09] <ray1claw> any ideas how to fix this?
[01:09] <Gentoo64> theunholy: its not ssh's fault, it's you not having any patience. ssh works for everyone else
[01:09] <muelli> ray1claw: is that the binary driver? Have you checked the free one?
[01:09] <Olya> ?
[01:09] <theunholy> obviously not
[01:09] <h00k> ubottu: tell Olya about undelete
[01:09] <Gentoo64> theunholy: its probably some trivial config thing
[01:09] <theunholy> yeah i dont understand it
[01:10] <muelli> well theunholy. Have you ever looked into the log of the machine you're trying to SSH into?
[01:10] <theunholy> why it has to be rocket science to turn ssh on
[01:10] <Olya> i closed (
[01:10] <Ankhwatcher> I resolved my monitor problem!
[01:10] <theunholy> how do i do that muelli
[01:10] <Ankhwatcher> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68906/how-can-i-get-my-geforce-6200-working-properly
[01:10] <damo22> theunholy: sudo cat /var/log/auth.log ?
[01:10] <muelli> theunholy: well, you get shell access and read /var/log/sshd.log or smth similar.
[01:10] <Olya> There are very hard instructions
[01:10] <ray1claw> muelli, i know the free one doesn't work with llano apu's.. everytime i install a distro with 3.0 kernel i find myself in the same situation, but installing fglrx from recovery and rebooting usually helps.. except this time
[01:10] <Olya> how recover by mouse?
[01:10] <cfhowlett> Ankhwatcher: >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/Pictures/success.jpg
[01:11] <Ben64> Olya: you can't
[01:11] <h00k> Olya: yes, but they can help you, please use the tutorial
[01:11] <ray1claw> muelli, can i somehow get my xorg.conf fixed, or something like that?
[01:11] <muelli> ray1claw: hm. Maybe an empty xorg.conf helps, so try to move it out.
[01:11] <Olya> there are english language(
[01:11] <urfr332g0> Olya, the only way you can be helped here is with exact details. :)
[01:11] <theunholy> im just uninstalling it
[01:11] <h00k> Olya: you can consider paying for a forensic recovery with some commercial service
[01:11] <theunholy> nothing seems to be working
[01:11] <hays> h00k: do you know if the jdk goes over the jre, or whether it is separate?
[01:11] <Ankhwatcher> cfhowlett: exactly
[01:11] <hays> h00k: e.g. if I have the jdk, do I need the jre?
[01:11] <cfhowlett> Olya: what is your first language?
[01:12] <muelli> well theunholy. Have you ever looked into the log of the machine you're trying to SSH into? Now you've been given instructions. Usually the logs are pretty good and tell you exactly what's going on.
[01:12] <Olya> Who has experience?
[01:12] <theunholy> simply install ubuntu server, installed ubuntu gui...installed apache mysql php and vnc...then installed openssh and its not working :0
[01:12] <urfr332g0> Olya, look in the trash as well.
[01:12] <muelli> hays: no
[01:12] <hays> muelli: no what?
[01:12] <h00k> hays: I don't think so.
[01:12] <ray1claw> muelli, i cant find a xorg.conf in my /etc/X11/
[01:12] <Olya> no trash
[01:12] <hays> ok so I can probably install over it
[01:12] <Olya> who tested tutorials?
[01:12] <Ankhwatcher> so cfhowlett just identifies a new problem with my system, that link opened in some wierd kde browser instead of firefox, how do I fix that?
[01:12] <Olya> help please
[01:12] <Olya> who recover files?
[01:13] <h00k> Olya: please use the Tutorial I showed you.
[01:13] <ibmthinkpad> Gentoo64: so what exactly is this plop boot manager and what do I do with it?
[01:13] <Olya> yes ok
[01:13] <Olya> help here too please
[01:13] <damo22> theunholy: sudo iptables --list  does that return anything?
[01:13] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad, it lets you boot from usb on old machines that cant from bios
[01:13] <Olya> how do?
[01:13] <Olya> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery many programms
[01:13] <Olya> idk what do
[01:13] <theunholy> ok ive removed ssh client and server
[01:14] <theunholy> anyone wanna help me step by set install it?
[01:14] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, lmgtfy, http://www.plop.at/
[01:14] <Olya> I dont remove partition
[01:14] <ray1claw> muelli, you know where the xorg.conf is? i remember it used to be in /etc/X11/ last i checked a couple of years back
[01:14] <cfhowlett> Olya: what is your first language?
[01:14] <Olya> just remove files
[01:14] <Olya> ru
[01:14] <damo22> theunholy: i already have been helping but youre impatient
[01:14] <cfhowlett> Maybe this
[01:14] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad, http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/mbrinstall.html
[01:14] <cfhowlett> !ru|olya
[01:14] <theunholy> damo22 nothing you said worked
[01:14] <Ben64> theunholy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:14] <theunholy> i figured take it all out and start over
[01:14] <Gentoo64> ibmthinkpad, read through that, choose the one where u add it to the windows boot menu. this is more of a Q for ##windows btw
[01:15] <theunholy> ok ben64 before i do that i did a sudo apt-get purge openssh-server and then another one with client
[01:15] <cfhowlett> Ankhwatcher: System>Applications>Preferred Applications - browser(?)
[01:15] <theunholy> that all i need to do??  restart?
[01:15] <Olya> ubottu, i was there are ask it question now night in europ part of Russia
[01:15] <Olya> they sleep
[01:15] <Ben64> theunholy: restart can't hurt, and yes, installing openssh-server is the first and only step
[01:15] <muelli> ray1claw: well. Fortunately humankind got mostly rid of xorg.conf.
[01:16] <muelli> ray1claw: maybe create a simple one...
[01:16] <Olya> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery whats programm useing? please help
[01:16] <theunholy> ok it says ssh running
[01:16] <Olya> testdisk said what information crashed (((
[01:16] <Olya> what do?
[01:16] <shaneo> hey guys i keep getting this error make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 when trying to compile any suggestions?
[01:17] <muelli> shaneo: pastebin us the output of make V=99
[01:17] <mkultra_> pastebin ur output need moar info
[01:17] <ray1claw> muelli, okay, i've found somthing
[01:17] <Olya> Please i just remove folder How recover? No dekited partition?
[01:18] <Olya> Please i just remove folder How recover? No delited partition!
[01:18] <theunholy> http://pastebin.com/B4n7U31H
[01:18] <gcosmin> hi, I would like to know if someone can help me to set up a wireless access point ?
[01:18] <muelli> there you go theunholy. It tells you exactly what to do
[01:18] <Ankhwatcher> cfhowlett: right, that's that fixed too
[01:19] <Olya> Please? You what not help to russians?
[01:19] <Ben64> theunholy: why are you doing sudo
[01:19] <Olya> :(
[01:19] <Ankhwatcher> time for bed, l8r all
[01:19] <theunholy> what to do not how to do it :(
[01:19] <OffGridOps> 11.10: I am having issues uploading attachments thru gmail in that I never see a progress bar and it is MUCH slower than when done thru W*ndows.  Is this normal?  Thanx
[01:19] <theunholy> why not?
[01:19] <Ben64> theunholy: because you shouldn't
[01:19] <ray1claw> muelli, I did X -configure, but it showed some errors like "number of creates screens does not matc numer of detected devices"
[01:19] <Gentoo64> OffbeatAdam, shouldnt be anything to do with linux
[01:19] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, ^
[01:19] <damo22> theunholy: sudo rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts && rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[01:20] <ray1claw> muelli, any other way to re-initialize the configuration?
[01:20] <OffGridOps> @Gentoo64 don't know what that means
[01:20] <theunholy> ok done
[01:20] <theunholy> now damo22?
[01:20] <Ben64> theunholy: you shouldn't use sudo for random things like that
[01:20] <muelli> ray1claw: dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg might help
[01:20] <Olya> How recover list of cataloges and file names?
[01:20] <damo22> now try ssh localhost
[01:20] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, i mean uploading a gmail attachment shouldnt be any different in linux or windows
[01:20] <theunholy> ok i tried to ssh localhost and i put in the password and now it wont even give me permission locally to ssh
[01:20] <Ben64> theunholy: sudo is to gain root privileges for specific commands that need root to work
[01:21] <theunholy> http://pastebin.com/w5vDktU8
[01:21] <theunholy> ok ben
[01:21] <OffGridOps> the speed in Win  on the last 2 10meg zip packs was 7min in Linux vs 3 in Win
[01:21] <Olya> HELP PLEASE!
[01:21] <muelli> ahahaha, he did the sudo again
[01:21] <OffGridOps> also no progress bar in linux
[01:21] <Ben64> muelli: i know, right
[01:21] <shaneo> muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839903/ when i ran make V=99 its said no target so i reran the script an this is the full error
[01:21] <urfr332g0> Olya, can you run this command and pastebin the output  lsb_release -a
[01:21] <escott> !ics | gcosmin you weren't very specific but you will likely need this
[01:21] <OffGridOps> googled and didnt find anything really recent and i have all updates
[01:22] <shaneo> muelli: also i could pastebin the script maybe something is wrong inside it
[01:22] <muelli> shaneo: that's not the full output
[01:22] <damo22> thrunholy: you CANT log into root@localhost with a password using the default config
[01:22] <muelli> k. I'm off
[01:22] <theunholy> so how do i login locally to check it?
[01:22] <Olya> And what it?
[01:22] <damo22> theunholy: DONT use sudo, just ssh localhost
[01:22] <urfr332g0> !pastebin | Olya
[01:22] <Ben64> theunholy: stop using sudo for ssh, just "ssh localhost"
[01:22] <ray1claw> muelli, did it, rebooting to check now
[01:23] <theunholy> ok that worked locally
[01:23] <theunholy> im in under theunholy@ubuntu
[01:23] <Ben64> theunholy: congrats, ssh works
[01:23] <Olya> me not help here? and where help? please
[01:23] <ray1claw> muelli, nope, it fails, anything els you can suggest?
[01:23] <theunholy> and putty is working now!
[01:23] <theunholy> thats odd
[01:23] <damo22> no its normal
[01:23] <theunholy> thats exactly how i installed it the first time
[01:23] <Ben64> very normal
[01:23] <theunholy> but it didnt give me htat authenticity of host error
[01:24] <damo22> the authenticity error came because when you installed ssh the second time it created a new keypair
[01:24] <damo22> it thought someone was faking the keys
[01:25] <theunholy> what the...
[01:25] <theunholy> now it wont work
[01:25] <theunholy> literally just closed putty and opened it again and it wot login
[01:25] <theunholy> access denied
[01:25] <theunholy> what is it one use only
[01:26] <h00k> theunholy: You don't have two devices with the same IP on your network, do you?
[01:26] <YokoBR> plz guys, i can't enable 3d support on my ati radeon hd 5579
[01:26] <YokoBR> 5570*
[01:26] <theunholy> Nope
[01:26] <damo22> theunholy: you probably mistyped your credentials
[01:26] <Ben64> !ati | YokoBR
[01:26] <theunholy> No I didn't mistype anything
[01:26] <theunholy> WHAT is going on
[01:26] <theunholy> this is redic
[01:26] <Olya> Testdisk write it: No file found, filesystem seems damaged.
[01:26] <Olya> HEEELP!
[01:26] <pnorman> theunholy: likely something with putty if it's working locally
[01:26] <damo22> theunholy: or else the bridge mode is sharing the ip with the host
[01:27] <theunholy> it JUST worked, i minimized VMware...closed putty and reopened it and tried to login...access denied
[01:27] <Andrew131> what does NMI: PCI system error (SERR) for reason a1 on CPU 0. mean?
[01:27] <h00k> Olya: Please follow that guide. It helps you.
[01:27] <h00k> theunholy: You don't have two devices with the same IP on your network, do you?
[01:27] <theunholy> ITS NOT DAMO22, since it is reporting different ips
[01:27] <ray1claw> muelli, hey! I'm looking through the new Xorg logs, and I see errors for loading NVidia drivers, but thats not my hardware anyway.. I'm using all AMD/ATI hardware.. even my chipset is AMD
[01:27] <theunholy> ONE IS 192.168.1.147 (the host windws 7) and the VMware is 192.168.1.143
[01:27] <Olya> What do?
[01:27] <ray1claw> muelli, can you suggest something now? there seem to be no more errors
[01:27] <Olya> testdisk no work((
[01:27] <Olya> Testdisk write it: No file found, filesystem seems damaged.
[01:28] <escott> Andrew131, bad ram? http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2007/02/27/1769274.aspx
[01:28] <damo22> theunholy: just for shits and giggles: try putty on the windows machine and connect to the windows machine ip
[01:28] <gcosmin> ubottu: thanks, I can see that it's too much to change/do
[01:28] <h00k> !language | damo22
[01:28] <Andrew131> interesting
[01:28] <theunholy> Connection refused
[01:29] <theunholy> doesnt even get to ask username
[01:29] <damo22> theunholy: thats good news
[01:29] <sasven> Hi, I need help installing flash and adobe reader to my firefox
[01:30] <h00k> !fsck | Olya
[01:30] <damo22> theunholy: i believe putty might be using a different password authentication method than the default ubuntu ssh client does
[01:30] <administrator> hi
[01:30] <urfr332g0> sasven, if you install the rstricted-extras for your desktop it gets installed along with other codecs needed and msfonts
[01:30] <YokoBR> wich is the command to run that proprietary driver installer ?
[01:30] <administrator> why am i unable to install anything on ubuntu ever?
[01:31] <urfr332g0> restricted-extras sasven
[01:31] <sasven> thanks
[01:31] <escott> YokoBR, jockey-gtk
[01:31] <Gentoo64> YokoBR, jockey-gtk
[01:31] <rmc3> YokoBR: jockey-gtk
[01:31] <Olya> Ubuntu not have normal util with gui? :(
[01:31] <YokoBR> thanks
[01:31] <h00k> Olya: No, you've asked that before.
[01:31] <h00k> Guest49579: Perhaps you don't have permission to
[01:31] <urfr332g0> Guest49579, can you name a few?
[01:31] <YokoBR> i hope ubuntu stop using unity.. Gnome is awesome.
[01:32] <Gentoo64> gnome shell and unity look almost the same to me
[01:32] <Gentoo64> :s
[01:32] <Olya> not
[01:32] <urfr332g0> YokoBR, gnome 2 is not supported you have gnome 3 though
[01:32] <YokoBR> i know... i just wish that we could go back to gnome 2
[01:32] <rmc3> Olya , vy mozhete poluchit. luchshuyu podderzhku # Ubuntu -ru . YA na samom dele ne vladyeet russkim yazykom, ya prosto s pomoshch.yu Google Translate .
[01:33] <Forbidden404> Hi, guys
[01:33] <YokoBR> it was the best enviroment ever
[01:33] <Forbidden404> I'm on a Live Ubuntu
[01:33] <urfr332g0> YokoBR, there is the fallback as well
[01:33] <Gentoo64> YokoBR, xfce will always be maintained, prob the safest bet
[01:33] <jc-2> #ubuntu-beginers
[01:33] <Guest49579> idk
[01:33] <Guest49579> i just need a guide
[01:33] <Olya> rmc3 thx i know there are all sleep now
[01:33] <Guest49579> that teaches me how to install things in ubuntu
[01:33] <h00k> !install | Guest49579
[01:33] <Olya> rmc3, thx i know there are all sleep now
[01:33] <Guest99267> does anybody know why font f amily doesnt work for ubuntu 11.04
[01:33] <escott> !manual | Guest49579
[01:33] <fairlycool>  /set theme syntax.theme
[01:33] <Gentoo64> Guest99267, apt-get install
[01:34] <YokoBR> Gnome is dead. And you guys killed it.
[01:34] <Gentoo64> YokoBR, its nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:34] <Guest49579> lol
[01:34] <Guest99267> gentoo64 so verdana does come installed with ubuntu
[01:34] <Forbidden404> Guys, I can't use facebook or twitter, any ideia about that?
[01:34] <h00k> YokoBR: you can talk offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic, but please keep this channel for support
[01:34] <urfr332g0> YokoBR, no the developer sdid
[01:34] <YokoBR> KDE is just an windows copy. Heavy as hell.
[01:34] <Olya> ok thx all i go bb all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:34] <h00k> Forbidden404: how does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[01:34] <YokoBR> Gnome was stable and fast
[01:34] <Gentoo64> Forbidden404, cant access the sites?
[01:34] <YokoBR> it was, on the past.
[01:34] <Forbidden404> Lol
[01:34] <Olya> #ubuntu-ru
[01:35] <Forbidden404> this problem is just with ubuntu
[01:35] <h00k> !ot | YokoBR
[01:35] <Forbidden404> i can access any sites
[01:35] <Forbidden404> but facebook and twitter
[01:35] <FloodBot1> Forbidden404: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <Forbidden404> and wlm too
[01:35] <escott> Olya, "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[01:35] <theunholy> ok i got it
[01:35] <Olya> sure
[01:35] <Olya> i do
[01:35] <Olya> was
[01:35] <theunholy> reinstalled and it works now...odd
[01:35] <urfr332g0> Forbidden404, what happens when you try?
[01:35] <Gentoo64> Forbidden404, sounds like some dns blocking thing
[01:35] <Olya> i there are
[01:35] <h00k> Forbidden404: perhaps check your DNS issues, but Ubuntu doesn't....stop you from accessing those.
[01:35] <escott> Forbidden404, maybe you have a filter between you and the net
[01:35] <rhizmoe> is there a decent multiple-twitter client available for ubuntu, or even linux...or freebsd
[01:35] <YokoBR> Great : Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[01:35] <rhizmoe> +?
[01:35] <Forbidden404> I configured the router, the dns, everything, downloaded restricted extras
[01:36] <Gentoo64> Forbidden404, try with googles dns? or are you already
[01:36] <Forbidden404> My dns works fine, I use in windows, any problems there
[01:36] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[01:36] <Forbidden404> already did
[01:36] <Forbidden404> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[01:36] <Gentoo64> weird
[01:36] <Forbidden404> There's no proxy here
[01:36] <h00k> Forbidden404: can you ping them?
[01:36] <Forbidden404> I can
[01:36] <Forbidden404> I can ping, but i can access, it's so much weird
[01:36] <h00k> Forbidden404: try a different browser
[01:36] <Gentoo64> what browser btw?
[01:36] <theunholy> How do i setup VNC server so i can remote desktop?
[01:36] <Forbidden404> firefox and chromium
[01:36] <Gentoo64> yea try something else
[01:37] <log> !vnc | theunholy
[01:37] <h00k> Forbidden404: you can access?
[01:37] <Forbidden404> i cant*
[01:37] <h00k> Forbidden404: does it not load, or...?
[01:37] <Forbidden404> sorry
[01:37] <Forbidden404> it loads...
[01:37] <Forbidden404> loads... till the server stop sendind data
[01:37] <Forbidden404> sending*
[01:38] <administrator_> i'm trying to install this
[01:38] <administrator_> with these instructions
[01:38] <Forbidden404> My ipv6 is disabled
[01:38] <administrator_> but to no avail
[01:38] <administrator_> http://www.manning.com/sande/Installation_Instructions.html
[01:38] <FloodBot1> administrator_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Guest99267> gentoo64 so verdana doesnt  come installed with ubuntu
[01:39] <administrator_> did that link go through?
[01:39] <Forbidden404> I upgrade the kernel to 3.2, I used dsl connection, still the same thing
[01:39] <Gentoo64> Guest99267, i dont know
[01:39] <theunholy> Ok I have remote desktop setup in ubuntu how do i connect to it?
[01:40] <administrator_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839912/
[01:40] <Guest99267> has anybody here used css before
[01:40] <ibmthinkpad> #windows
[01:40] <log> ibmthinkpad: /join #windows
[01:40] <h00k> Guest99267: that's not necessarily something Ubuntu specific
[01:41] <Guest99267> yes it is it has to do with font installed
[01:41] <cfhowlett> Guest99267: be specific and ask your question plz
[01:41] <Forbidden404> guys, the paste.ubuntu doesnt works here too, I wrote the text and then... starts to load and load forever
[01:42] <Ben64> Forbidden404: http://pastebin.com/
[01:42] <escott> Forbidden404, do you have any kind of javascript blocker?
[01:42] <Gentoo64> Forbidden404: in firefox, under connections try direct rather than "use system"
[01:42] <Gentoo64> idk if itl help
[01:43] <Forbidden404> any javascript blocker ):
[01:43] <h00k> Guest99267: Veranda isn't installed in Ubuntu, if that is your question
[01:43] <Forbidden404> i do not
[01:43] <bobenhaus> which is better xchat for gnome xchat?
[01:43] <seasandoceans> hi, I am trying to skin pidgin and the instructions are to replace 4 existing pidgin folders with the skin's versions which are labeled the same. the only problem is that I can;t move them into the filesystem; I get a message saying "error etc etc acess denied." can anyone give me a hand?
[01:43] <escott> Forbidden404, it seems unlikely that you are having network connection issues. if you are able to chat in irc it would seem that tcp is working just fine for you
[01:43] <Gentoo64> bobenhaus: i hear bad things about gnome one
[01:43] <urfr332g0> !best > bobenhaus
[01:43] <Gentoo64> bobenhaus: so xchat
[01:43] <escott> Forbidden404, greasemonkey then?
[01:44] <Guest99267> where exactly do i got these fonts at
[01:44] <Guest99267> get
[01:44] <Forbidden404> oh god, I'm using livecd right now and has the php glitch, I don't have time to find that lib, wait gauys
[01:44] <Forbidden404> guys*
[01:44] <escott> !info msttcorefonts | Guest99267
[01:44] <seasandoceans> anyone?
[01:45] <mkultra_> man solfege is great
[01:45] <escott> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | Guest99267
[01:45] <cfhowlett> escott: would those be in the restricted extras?
[01:45] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: check the permissions on the files
[01:45] <escott> cfhowlett, I believe so
[01:45] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: are they moving to root or your home dir
[01:46] <Forbidden404> I will quit, guys, shall enter my ubuntu
[01:46] <Forbidden404> o/
[01:46] <h00k> Forbidden404: good luck.
[01:47] <DinoMuffin> Hey guys, do you know of any decent file recovery software for ubuntu (or any distro)? Something comparable to Recuva?
[01:47] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: thank you. they are supposed to go to filesystem/usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin.. I'm not sure if that is root or not.
[01:47] <Gentoo64> DinoMuffin: photorec?
[01:47] <escott> DinoMuffin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:47] <h00k> !undelate | DinoMuffin
[01:47] <urfr332g0> DinoMuffin, check out testdisk
[01:47] <h00k> bah.
[01:47] <h00k> !undelete | DinoMuffin
[01:47] <escott> seasandoceans, those should be root owned
[01:48] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: yes it is, youll need sudo
[01:48] <DinoMuffin> Alrighty
[01:48] <Guest99267>  msttcorefont is not a package
[01:48] <Guest99267> where is it located
[01:48] <seasandoceans> gentoo64 and escott: where would I find the commands for this?
[01:49] <Gentoo64> Guest99267: ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[01:49] <Gentoo64> idk
[01:49] <cfhowlett> Guest99267: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-10.10/ubuntu-multiverse-i386/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.2_all.deb.html
[01:49] <urfr332g0> Guest99267, have you installed the restricted-extras for the desktop your using?
[01:49] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: use sudo mv / sudo cp
[01:49] <Gentoo64> on the files
[01:49] <Guest99267> no where are they located
[01:49] <Guest99267> im a newbie here
[01:49] <urfr332g0> Guest99267, what is your desktop?
[01:50] <escott> Guest99267, the fonts are downloaded from microsoft
[01:50] <Gentoo64> Guest99267: usr share fonts
[01:50] <Guest99267> yoyou mean what ubuntu version?
[01:50] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: mind my ignorance but which do I move and which do I copy?
[01:50] <urfr332g0> Guest99267, yes
[01:50] <Guest99267> 11.04 should i upgrade to 11.10
[01:50] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: i have no clue what you're doing :)
[01:51] <bobenhaus_> could someone kick bobenhaus for me?
[01:51] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: all i know is to move something (as normal user) to root dir requires sudo
[01:51] <bobenhaus_> nvm )
[01:51] <forbidden404> Guys, i'm back
[01:51] <escott> Guest99267, 11.10 is the last version to have gnome2 so if you like gnome2 dont
[01:52] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: thanks for everything. hopefully I can figure it out..
[01:52] <escott> Guest99267, rather 11.04 is the last. 11.10 doesnt
[01:52] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: where are the files, and where do you need to copy them to?
[01:52] <eSoul> hey peoples, looking for some help in 11.10 with the usbip package -- I know its listed as a bug (missing usbip kernel modules), but looking to see if anyone had any hacks to get itworking
[01:53] <bsidb> hi
[01:53] <forbidden404> No data received
[01:53] <Xoombenhaus> weird my nicks are getting ghosted
[01:53] <forbidden404> Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
[01:53] <Xoombenhaus> could someone kick my bobenhaus;s?
[01:54] <forbidden404> I cant use pastbin or past.ubuntu, cause when I press to paste, starts to load... and looooad
[01:54] <eSoul> Xoombenhaus, he needs to be disco'ed from the server before you can use the name, nto just the channel
[01:54] <forbidden404> I dont want to flood the chat ):
[01:54] <escott> forbidden404, do other tcp connections work?
[01:54] <Xoombenhaus> esoul:yeah.  wonder if it is a netsplit?
[01:54] <eSoul> likely
[01:54] <h00k> I didn't see a netsplit happen
[01:54] <eSoul> or he just hasnt pinged out yet
[01:55] <Xoombenhaus> yeah strange
[01:55] <h00k> Xoombenhaus: if they're getting ghosted, probably check in with someone in #freenode
[01:55] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: home/<username>/downloads/dialogues to filesystem/usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin
[01:56] <takkun> hello all. my 10.10 box won't boot after update and I am having trouble finding a mirror for the boot info script
[01:56] <forbidden404> escott, I don't know about TCP's ): you mean network manager or wicd?
[01:56] <urfr332g0> !bootinfo
[01:56] <urfr332g0> takkun, ^^^
[01:56] <escott> forbidden404, does any other network connection work?
[01:56] <takkun> ty urfr332g0 \
[01:56] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: is dialogues a folder? whatever way, go into terminal, cd /home/user/downloads   then sudo cp -r dialogues /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin
[01:56] <urfr332g0> takkun, no problem pastebin it if needed.
[01:56] <Guest99267> thanks cfhowlett it worked like a charm
[01:57] <forbidden404> escott: When I'm in the Windows,it works fine, im the only guy in the house with ubuntu and even wired, has the same problem.
[01:57] <cfhowlett> Guest99267: no problem.  Have fun.
[01:57] <forbidden404> I don't tested in any other router
[01:57] <forbidden404> but I will this week
[01:57] <forbidden404> in my buddy's house
[01:57] <escott> forbidden404, i think it would be helpful to know if this is webbrowser related or something more low-level. so lets teach you to use telnet to download an http page
[01:57] <pmitros> My computer has a hard drive that mounts in /media on bootup. I accidentally unmounted it. Is there a way to remount it in the same way as ubuntu mounts it? I know I can mkdir /media/[UUID], mount /dev/sdXX /media/[UUID], but that seems like the wrong way to do it.
[01:58] <pmitros> With a removable drive, I'd unplug it and plug it back in, but this is a normal, fixed HDD
[01:58] <forbidden404> escott, telnet?
[01:58] <Gentoo64> pmitros: try just /mount/drive
[01:58] <Gentoo64> pmitros: try mount /drive rather
[01:58] <h00k> pmitros: you could do sudo mount -a, if it has an entry in fstab
[01:59] <pmitros> It doesn't have an entry in fstab; it's autodetected by Ubuntu on bootup
[01:59] <pmitros> So mount /media/[UUID] doesn't help.
[01:59] <escott> forbidden404, open a terminal and type "telnet www.google.com 80" then quickly type "GET index.html" and hit enter twice
[01:59] <damo22> pmitros: you can find out which partition number it is and mount it manually?
[02:00] <escott> forbidden404, it should dump some text out which should end with </BODY></HTML> Connection closed by foreign host.
[02:00] <damo22> escott: what about curl
[02:00] <pmitros> damo: I can. I was just hoping there's a Right Way to do it. I've had the same problem with USB drives, when I unmount them by accident, and I wanted to figure this out once and for all.
[02:01] <eSoul> pmitros -- can you use the file manager to mount it
[02:01] <forbidden404> Escott, exactly that
[02:01] <eSoul> that might mount it in /media
[02:01] <takkun> urfr332g0  http://pastebin.com/jvCGeEUp
[02:01] <Xoombenhaus> I need to disconnect for my nicks will leave :(... they keep relogging
[02:01] <pmitros> esoul: Woah. That did it. Cool! I've never stepped outside the command line for this kind of thing before. Thanks!
[02:02] <escott> damo22, yeah i suppose that would work too, although you get a script when you do that so its not as obvious that its working
[02:02] <pmitros> Now I guess I should figure out how the file manager does it...
[02:02] <metsys23> hi there again. firstly thank you all that advise me xubuntu, i am enjoying it very much
[02:02] <eSoul> no problem pmitros, yeah I have used it to mount things but I pariculatrly dont like things thrown into a "pseduo-random" folder even though the UUID stays the same
[02:03] <metsys23> now, i have some questions, as usual of noobs
[02:03] <Gentoo64> udisks
[02:03] <escott> forbidden404, if you can do that then your internet connection would seem to be working and its likely a web browser issue. you can also use tools like wget or curl to download webpages "curl www.google.com/index.html" which might be easier (you get slightly different results with curl)
[02:03] <cfhowlett> metsys23>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/Pictures/success.jpg
[02:03] <Feymood> I'm trying to launch all 3 of my startup programs in different screen windows of the SAME screen session. Is there a way to do that?
[02:03] <forbidden404> But, I can access google, my problem is with especific sites
[02:04] <escott> forbidden404, which suggests something specific to your browser
[02:04] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: for some reason I keep getting a "no such file or directory" and I've been over it a bunch of times now. seems a little impossible as I have the folder open in another window and that is definitely the path... strange!
[02:04] <metsys23> I am using ubuntu software center to install some software, like liberoffice
[02:04] <escott> forbidden404, like you have a greasemonkey script or some kind of addon which is causing the page to reload
[02:04] <psye> please, help me with that -> http://xtupload.com/share-B981_4F384B07.html
[02:04] <psye> how i can do that
[02:05] <Gentoo64> seasandoceans: use tab-complete it never gets it wrong
[02:05] <forbidden404> I will restart chromium without any addon
[02:05] <urfr332g0> takkun, looks like it should boot you can reload the grub bootloader to the mbr, look here 3 methods read very carefully. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[02:05] <takkun> thank you very much urfr332g0
[02:05] <takkun> urfr332g0: it was just hanging at the purple splash spring
[02:05] <takkun> screen*
[02:05] <urfr332g0> takkun, no problem wost case download supergrub to boot in and fix it from te desktop.
[02:06] <damo22> !seen RKyle
[02:06] <urfr332g0> worst*
[02:06] <urfr332g0> takkun, sounds like grapphic driver now
[02:07] <urfr332g0> takkun, not a bootloade problem it sounds like
[02:07] <takkun> urfr332g0:  I have an nvidia card if that would help
[02:07] <takkun> a*
[02:08] <urfr332g0> takkun, out of my pay area a nomodeset in the kernel line may get you in if it is graphics
[02:08] <Kai809> He
[02:08] <Kai809> Hello
[02:08] <urfr332g0> !nomodeset | takkun
[02:09] <urfr332g0> takkun, also may need a fsck hard for me to say. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[02:09] <forbidden404> escott, the login page from facebook works, login page of twitter works, pastebin works... my problem is when it starts to load, when I login in fb or twitter, when I press "paste" in paste bin, you know?
[02:09] <escott> forbidden404, which are all javascript triggered actions
[02:09] <seasandoceans> gentoo64: I'm not familiar with "tab-complete," do I enter it after I make the path entry?
[02:09] <escott> !tab | seasandoceans
[02:10] <hiexpo> old school
[02:10] <forbidden404> escott: there's a library for javascript in ubuntu?
[02:10] <forbidden404> maybe is missing in my library
[02:10] <hiexpo> or tab willgive you the command  :(
[02:10] <h00k> forbidden404: no, it's handled by a your browser's engine.
[02:10] <escott> forbidden404, no, but it sounds like something is wrong with your browsers javascript in some way. have you tried a different browser?
[02:11] <ibmthinkpad> I am trying to instal Ubuntu on my 2002 IBM think pad with no sevice packs. It does not react to booting from a USB stick, it reads the boot disc for one minute before ignoring that as well. I tried Plop but it just returns to the plop main menu after one minute if I tell it to boot from the disc. Plop freezes when I tell it to boot from USB. What do I do?
[02:11] <damo22> !tab > damo22
[02:11] <forbidden404> escott: I used firefox... then chromium... firefox loads the first page of facebook, but I cant update anything, in chromium, the page doesnt even loads
[02:11] <takkun> urfr332g0:  so would i use fsck to add nomodeset?
[02:11] <cfhowlett> ibmthinkpad: do ANY cdroms work in that drive?
[02:12] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, a 2002 think pad may not have the power needed what is the ram amount and chip speed?
[02:12] <escott> forbidden404, maybe https then? can you identify if there is a patter with websites that have https vs http?
[02:12] <urfr332g0> takkun, 2 differnt things
[02:12] <Dr_willis> takkun:  nomodeset is a special kenel boot option
[02:12] <urfr332g0> takkun, look at the n omodeset link by the bot.
[02:12] <takkun> Dr_willis: ty, urfr332g0  reading it now
[02:12] <forbidden404> escott: I thought this before, I will try google.com in ssl
[02:12] <seasandoceans> escott: thanks. I'm just going to give up.
[02:13] <forbidden404> escott: I tried encrypted google.com and it worked fine
[02:13] <escott> seasandoceans, ok... im not sure what you were trying to do
[02:13] <ibmthinkpad> cfhowlett: I have put in DVDs that it sems to recognise and gives me chapters for it, but it said it didn't have the right drivers to play them, I haven't tried any thing else.
[02:13] <damo22> !test > damo22
[02:13] <forbidden404> Your connection to encrypted.google.com is encrypted with 128-bit encryption.
[02:13] <forbidden404> The connection uses TLS 1.0.
[02:13] <urfr332g0> Dr_willis, your name is a moniker I use often. :)
[02:13] <escott> !dvd | ibmthinkpad
[02:13] <forbidden404> The connection is encrypted using RC4_128, with SHA1 for message authentication and ECDHE_RSA as the key exchange mechanism.
[02:14] <forbidden404> The connection is not compressed.
[02:14] <FloodBot1> forbidden404: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <forbidden404> Well Floodbot, I tried, but my issue don let me do this u_u
[02:14] <ibmthinkpad> urfr332g0:I'm checking right now.
[02:14] <webroasters> hi guys. I've used the terminal command of "find", and I've found all of the files I was looking for. How can I delete them, just as I found them?
[02:14] <webroasters> do I have to do that individually?
[02:15] <cfhowlett> ibmthinkpad: you DID md5checksum that .iso?
[02:15] <escott> webroasters, find has a -delete option
[02:15] <ibmthinkpad> ubottu: that is not my problem. at all. I can't even install ubuntu.
[02:15] <webroasters> oh nice
[02:15] <webroasters> I'll check the manual,. thanks!
[02:15] <ibmthinkpad> cfhowlett: what and how?
[02:15] <Lint> forbidden404, RC4??
[02:16] <cfhowlett> !md5sum>ibmthinkpad
[02:16] <Lint> that cypher is from 1996
[02:16] <forbidden404> rc4?
[02:16] <etyrnal> helllllllp
[02:16] <urfr332g0> ibmthinkpad, get the hardware info I doubt a 2002 thinkpad will run ubuntu.
[02:16] <Lint> and tls 1.0?
[02:16] <etyrnal> ubuntu 8.04 - can connect to external network links, but not internal
[02:16] <cfhowlett> ibmthinkpad: might have to try x/l ubuntu
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !8.04
[02:17] <forbidden404> Lint: I dont know about these things ):
[02:17] <etyrnal> can ping external hosts, but not hosts in my home
[02:17] <cfhowlett> !EOL>etyrnal
[02:17] <forbidden404> Lint: is that wrong?
[02:17] <etyrnal> 'no route to host'
[02:17] <urfr332g0> etyrnal, 8.04 is end of life and not supported.
[02:17] <Lint> forbidden404, it's very outdated
[02:17] <forbidden404> Lint: how I upgrade?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !upgrade | forbidden404
[02:17] <BigTaxi> i require some assistance with a network i can see but cannot connec to
[02:17] <Lint> now AES and tls 1.2 is used
[02:18] <Dr_willis> A clean install of a newer version  may be faster then upgtrading 8.04
[02:18] <Lint> forbidden404, browser?
[02:18] <ibmthinkpad> cfhowlett: what is x/l ubuntu?
[02:18] <forbidden404> Lint: chromium
[02:18] <Dr_willis> !lubuntu | ibmthinkpad
[02:18] <Lint> forbidden404, that's strange
[02:19] <forbidden404> Same problem in firefox
[02:19] <Kai809> I have a question about partitioning on a Mac Os X 10.5.8 2.4 Ghz Intel Core Duo. I’m reading an error in Disk Utility which states “Partition failed with the error: Filesystem verify or repair failed.” I’ve also installed rEFIt and it opens upon startup. If I select boot legacy OS from HD I get the error “missing operating system”. I would like to partition my drive to work with Ubuntu alongside Os X. I have the .img file on us
[02:19] <cfhowlett> ibmthinkpad: xubuntu lubuntu are lightweight distributions of ubuntu that run well on older and lower spec machines.
[02:19] <forbidden404> Lint: you know how to upgrade that protocols?
[02:19] <madalin> hello
[02:19] <Lint> forbidden404, you need server that support them
[02:20] <karfir> Hi, I have an old Ubuntu machine (couple of years) that I set up only to discover I had forgotten the password to an encrypted home folder.  I changed the user account password, but does anyone know a script I can use to brute force the password on the passphrase?
[02:20] <madalin> I'm trying to deny a specific IP on my network access to ANY OTHER shares on the network. How should i approach this ?
[02:20] <cfhowlett> Kai809: is that a powerpc??
[02:20] <BigTaxi> i require some assistance with a network i can see but cannot connec to
[02:20] <cfhowlett> karfir: encryption is built to resist that exact method...
[02:21] <ulziibuyan> madalin: look into samba docs
[02:21] <Kai809> No I don't think so
[02:21] <Dr_willis> madalin:  each machine serving up the samba shares would have to block that machine based on ip i think.
[02:21] <karfir> cfhowlett: I'm pretty sure I didn't have a particularly secure login password
[02:21] <urfr332g0> karfir, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[02:21] <Dr_willis> madalin:  via their samba configs.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> madalin:  or iptables command/firewall
[02:21] <cfhowlett> karfir: what are your hardware specs?
[02:21]  * Lint thinks ubuntu should remove encrypting home folder option from installer
[02:21] <madalin> Dr_willis: i tried blocking 137-139 and 445, but no luck (using iptables) any other hints?
[02:22] <welly> Hey all. Saturday morning, my ubuntu 10.04 server ground to a halt and needed rebooting. Here's where the crash occurred: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839929/
[02:22] <Dr_willis> madalin:  the samba configs.
[02:22] <urfr332g0> karfir, ^^^^^
[02:22] <welly> can anyone suggest what might have caused it?
[02:22] <BigTaxi> i require some assistance with a network i can see but cannot connec to
[02:22] <karfir> cfhowlett: That computer is a 3ghz dual core, but I have access to a university computer that is more beefy.  I don't mind running for a week or whatever though.
[02:23] <wingie> how do i run a command over and over again?
[02:23] <escott> karfir, i think your university sysadmins would mind when you decide to run something for the next decade
[02:23] <cfhowlett> karfir: so the specs on the installation machine are?  Hdd/ram/cpu/
[02:23] <karfir> urfr332g0: I've already changed the user account password, I'm looking to attack ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase or equivalent.
[02:23] <karfir> escott: If it were going to run for more than a night, I wouldn't do it on there.
[02:24] <urfr332g0> karfir, is it encrypted?
[02:24] <madalin> wingie: what do you mean by over and over again ?
[02:24] <bascotie> Hi guys, I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and I am fairly new to Linux in general. I setup a Samba share using a guide and it shares fine to the /srv location but I tried also adding a share to a second hard drive and when I try to access from Windows 7, it says I might not have permissions. Can anyone spare a few minutes to help?
[02:24] <escott> karfir, do you not remember the old password?
[02:24] <wingie> madalin: i have a program that will run and exit .. i want it to rerun everytime it is exited
[02:24] <madalin> wingie: thats like hitting your head against the wall :)
[02:24] <BigTaxi> i require some assistance with a network i can see but cannot connect to. extremely frustrating and troubleshoot doesnt seem to do anything but solve hardware issues.
[02:25] <madalin> BigTaxi: errors ?
[02:25] <BigTaxi> no errors... just wont connect
[02:25] <karfir> cfhowlett: 1.5TB hdd, I'm trying to find the read speed.  there's 4 gigs of ram and it's a 3ghz core duo processor
[02:25] <BigTaxi> i can see the network, and as far as i know the card is working fine because the network is being detected
[02:25] <karfir> escott: No, I don't remember the old password, it was a few years ago that I set it up.
[02:25] <madalin> BigTaxi: what distro/version ?
[02:25] <karfir> urfr332g0: Yeah, it's encrypted.
[02:26] <escott> karfir, and you never logged into this system in the intervening period?
[02:26] <urfr332g0> karfir, whay does it matter you get in?
[02:26] <BigTaxi> ubuntu uh....oneiric
[02:26] <karfir> urfr332g0: It's not critical, I just want my old music and stuff.
[02:26] <BigTaxi> 11.10
[02:26] <karfir> escott: No, left it in NYC and moved to California.
[02:27] <h00k> !encrypted | karfir maybe there's something here that can help
[02:27] <madalin> BigTaxi: did you try tail -f /var/log/syslog while trying to connect ? Can you paste your dmesg somewhere and provide me with the link ?
[02:27] <urfr332g0> karfir, that you have not listed to in two years, hmm sound nefarious to be honest. :)
[02:27] <urfr332g0> listened.
[02:27] <wingie> madalin: bash -c 'while [ 0 ]; do date;done'
[02:27] <wingie> that worked great=)
[02:27] <escott> karfir, there are 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 unique passphrases. the data is gone http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/how-encrypted-home-ecryptfs-works.html
[02:27] <h00k> !danger
[02:28] <h00k> wingie: don't tell someone to do that.
[02:28] <madalin> wingie: good you got it:))
[02:28] <BigTaxi> its on another computer, which has no internet so getting you exact copy/paste is not a very good option.
[02:28] <madalin> wingie: that'll just flood your computer
[02:28] <karfir> urfr332g0: Yeah, hopefully the NSA/whoever has someone whose job it is to do the nefarious stuff that isn't looking for help on URC
[02:28] <BigTaxi> i'm a newb and miserable with the terminal... tell me what to do and what to look for
[02:28] <madalin> BigTaxi: lspci | grep Ethernet outputs anything ?
[02:28] <wingie> h00k madalin: I won't do that command, i just need to loop something else
[02:29] <karfir> escott: It's only as secure as the old login password that wraps it, which is more like 656,100,000,000, but can be attacked statistically
[02:29] <BigTaxi> hold on... tail -f /var/log/syslog left me without a command prompt (my computer and user name)
[02:30] <Oer> karfir, how did you changed your password, like you said earlier ?
[02:30] <BigTaxi> and so no new commands will go through
[02:30] <laog> just find out the cairo dock is a cool thing to play with
[02:30] <Flannel> BigTaxi: ctrl-c to end that command (tail is still running)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> BigTaxi:  thats what tail -f means with the -f option.. reads the file untill you ctrl-c
[02:30] <forbidden404> Guys, how I know if I'm missing some lib?
[02:30] <pmitros> ls
[02:31] <Dr_willis> forbidden404:  error messages in the terminal when you run an app that needs the lib normally.
[02:31] <karfir> Oer: Just went in in recovery mode, logged in as root and ran passwd.  It was actually a bad idea, because there are a ton of tools that attack /etc/shadow, so if I had left it unchanged I could use one of those.
[02:31] <madalin> BigTaxi: did you typed that in a terminal ? If so, try pressing CTRL+C
[02:31] <BigTaxi> ok. lspci | grep ethernet and nothing happened
[02:31] <forbidden404> Dr_willis: but this time my problem isnt with a app
[02:31] <forbidden404> an*
[02:31] <Dr_willis> forbidden404:  whats it with then?
[02:31] <madalin> BigTaxi: are you grep Ethernet. Exactly like i said it..
[02:32] <forbidden404> Dr_willis: Is about javascript not running well
[02:32] <forbidden404> my browser is okay
[02:32] <BigTaxi> i typed it exactly as you said, in the terminal
[02:32] <forbidden404> Idk what is the problem
[02:32] <madalin> BigTaxi: and NOTHING outputs ?
[02:32] <BigTaxi> nothing
[02:32] <BigTaxi> its wireless though... just in case you didnt know and it matters
[02:33] <madalin> BigTaxi: well, that command should output at LEAST one line saying something about Ethernet controller.. If it doesnt..maybe you're using an USB network card ?
[02:33] <BigTaxi> nah. it's a card in my tower that i've been using for years.
[02:33] <Oer> lspci | grep network
[02:34] <escott> karfir, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/01/daemon-challenge-2-we-have-winner.html
[02:34] <BigTaxi> not usb, as far as i know. right into the motherboard. AND it worked just a few days ago
[02:34] <webroasters> hi guys. I want to use the find command with the -delete option. I've found all of the folders I was looking for "_notes". They're located in different depths with a main folder. How do I structure the command so that I don't delete anything that isn't _notes?
[02:34] <tjiggi_fo> BigTaxi, use caps for E in Ethernet
[02:35] <cfhowlett> webroasters: locate foo IIRC
[02:35] <webroasters> i dont' understand
[02:35] <Oer> tjiggi_fo +1
[02:35] <Dr_willis> bbl
[02:35] <madalin> tjiggi_fo: i think he did. I hope lol.
[02:35] <BigTaxi> ok, i got two things
[02:35] <BigTaxi> nope... not capital E. sorry.
[02:35] <BigTaxi> but i have things now
[02:36] <foo> I've been getting this from rkhunter for a while: http://pastebin.com/zRsbtFzc - I've tried several things to reset rkhunter with no luck. Any tips on how to have rkhunter not complain about these files?
[02:36] <madalin> BigTaxi: great. That means you have two network cards
[02:36] <karfir> escott: Thanks, that might get me there!
[02:36] <madalin> tjiggi_fo: :P
[02:36] <BigTaxi> awesome
[02:36] <tjiggi_fo> heh heh
[02:36] <escott> webroasters, find . -iname "*_notes" -delete
[02:36] <madalin> BigTaxi: so, doing a tail -f /var/log/syslog states NOTHING ?
[02:37] <BigTaxi> no, it does. what do you need to know
[02:37] <webroasters> ok thanks escott
[02:37] <escott> webroasters, obv. run it without -delete first, but it will only delete those files it prints
[02:38] <p4ch0> How can I upgrade without lose my gnome-classic desktop? unity really sucks ....
[02:38] <webroasters> escott. Right, i did that
[02:38] <dark|angel> anyone know anything about these guys? http://toratek.net/vps-plans - it seems that they offer every possible version of Ubuntu on Xen for pretty cheap
[02:38] <webroasters> one question. how do i do this recursively?
[02:39] <madalin> BigTaxi: use that command and try to connect. Anything about wireless ?
[02:39] <webroasters> so that it deletes eveerything inside the folders
[02:39] <escott> webroasters, find . -iname "*_notes" -delete
[02:39] <escott> webroasters, find is recursive :)
[02:39] <webroasters> right. ok, thanks, i'll try it again
[02:39] <ch33z> hello
[02:39] <ch33z> I need help with a quick item please! :)
[02:39] <escott> webroasters, unless you mean that those are folders. in which case you can use find . -iname "*_notes" -exec rm -rf {} \;
[02:39] <BigTaxi> two say 'disabling freq 24 (72/84) MHz'
[02:40] <BigTaxi> world regulatory domain updated
[02:40] <webroasters> yep, that's probably it
[02:40] <ch33z> how do set up dns and apache I just did a fresh install
[02:40] <BigTaxi> no connection though
[02:40] <webroasters> with a semi-colon at the end?
[02:40] <ch33z> and also how do i add my html files in ubuntu?
[02:40] <BigTaxi> i did not see you give me a command other than the -tail one... thats just a readout
[02:40] <ch33z> i am on Ubuntu server.
[02:40] <dark|angel> seems like toratek.net makes linode look overpriced...
[02:40] <escott> webroasters, a \;... you have to get the semicolon escaped so that i makes it to find so that find knows the command is done
[02:41] <Oer> ch33z, it is all in https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[02:41] <ch33z> o
[02:42] <ch33z> Oer thanks, I will respond back if I need more help :)
[02:42] <ch33z> but, do I really need a gui?
[02:42] <Andrew131> Is there a good way to diagnose NMI's?
[02:42] <escott> Andrew131, try ##hardware
[02:42] <ulziibuyan> ch33z: nope, you don't.
[02:42] <Andrew131> Thanks
[02:44] <bascotie> Can someone help me figure out why my Windows 7 pc is unable to access a Samba share? It can access the original share fine, but I also shared a 2nd hard drive and it says it can't access it.
[02:44] <Been> hi, has anyone else had an issue with the mouse and keyboard locking up?
[02:44] <erik32533> hi all
[02:44] <rcmaehl> How do I make my mouse wrap around the desktop? As in when I hit the end of the desktop it appears on the other side
[02:45] <erik32533> hi all
[02:45] <JermBob> rcmaehl you need a mouse pointer magic carpet ride machine
[02:45] <forbidden404> GUYS
[02:45] <rcmaehl> JermBob: :\
[02:45] <forbidden404> escott: My facebook worked when I used incognito windows
[02:45] <urfr332g0> bascotie, ##windows might be more helpful
[02:46] <escott> forbidden404, bad cookie?
[02:46] <BigTaxi> whenever you are free, my problem persists
[02:47] <bascotie> urfr332g0: I think it's a permissions issue on the ubuntu share, not a windows side issue since I can access the other ubuntu share fine
[02:47] <escott> !info swat | bascotie
[02:47] <forbidden404> escott: but I deleted cookies before ):
[02:48] <forbidden404> escott: idk why, but it worked now, not that good, but at least worked
[02:49] <bascotie> ubottu: I also tried SWAT, it shows the shares fine and it has an error saying DENY_DOS RDWR
[02:49] <forbidden404> escott: Well, now it stopped working haha
[02:49] <bascotie> lol
[02:49] <ch33z> ulziibuyan hmm well its kinda hard to add html files without the gui right?
[02:49] <EricInBNE> can you install xfce on the latest ubuntu?
[02:50] <BigTaxi> i'm wondering if i can receive help with a network issue
[02:50] <holstein> EricInBNE: xfce or xubuntu-desktop.. whatever you like... XFCE is in the repos
[02:50] <holstein> BigTaxi: no need to wonder.. just ask!
[02:50] <ulziibuyan> ch33z: if you'd think that you might be better off with the GUI ;-)
[02:50] <BigTaxi> well i had a guy for a little while... but my ineptitude scared him off
[02:50] <EricInBNE> holstein, all the new proprietary ubuntu services, is there anything mandatory? Im using a fairly old ubuntu here
[02:51] <ch33z> haha ulziibuyan you think so?
[02:51] <ch33z> in the guides do they tell how to add html files ulziibuyan ?
[02:51] <holstein> EricInBNE: im using the latest LTS.. 10.04 ...try them live... its really up to you
[02:51] <ulziibuyan> ch33z: I'm not sure you have to look into it.
[02:51] <ch33z> kk
[02:52] <BigTaxi> so i can see the wireless networks, but cannot connect to them, even though i could a day or two ago
[02:52] <forbidden404> I'm starting to think that I threw a rock in Linus face, then, he is making his vengeance against me, fuckin up my Ubuntu
[02:52] <h00k> !language | forbidden404
[02:53] <holstein> BigTaxi: i would delete the saved wifi settings for that access point.. i wouldtry testing with another access point
[02:53] <urfr332g0> BigTaxi, these your wifi points and you have the passwords
[02:53] <Guest81002> hi all i seem to be having a problem with dnsmasq , it doesn't seem to resolv LAN queries . can someone assist
[02:53] <BigTaxi> there is only one access point. deleting setting does not work. it is a guest network, so no pass
[02:53] <BigTaxi> this laptop is on, so the network is fine
[02:54] <holstein> BigTaxi: cool.. can you go somewhere with another access point to try? is this your access point?
[02:54] <BigTaxi> this laptop and that PC are right next to one another currently. i may be confused as to what an access point is
[02:55] <Zillow> trying to use nginx, but I can't figure out how to get rid of apache. :P
[02:55] <Yabden> purge it!
[02:55] <Zillow> did apt-get purge apache2
[02:55] <ulziibuyan> Zillow: sudo apt-get purge apache2?
[02:55] <Zillow> it won't go away!
[02:55] <codemonkey1337> guys, I know this may be a bit off topic but I'm kind of despite. I'm taking a systems programming in unix class, and my homework was to create an MBRviewer program. I created one, and everything works, but some of the CHS addresses are off. I'm hoping you guys can run it against your own MBRs and 1) tell me if they are also off and 2)help me debug my program, if you are willing
[02:56] <BigTaxi> seriously though... the connection was working one or two days ago. i have changed nothing.
[02:56] <ch33z> how do i ed this? "You may configure the default behavior of the OpenSSH server application, sshd, by editing the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[02:56] <ch33z> BigTaxi
[02:56] <h00k> codemonkey1337: That is not the place for this
[02:56] <holstein> BigTaxi: i would just trouble shoot.. i know you are holding on to "all the rest are fine".. but if that perspective is not constructive, you might have to abandon it, and troubleshoot elsewhere
[02:56] <Nach0z> ch33z: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:56] <ch33z> ah thanks!
[02:56] <codemonkey1337> h00k: as I said it may be offtopic, but it is a linux issue.
[02:56] <kasansweat> A while ago, I used a GREAT little directory-jump program in bash -- if you typed "j music", it would bounce you to the most frequently accessed dir that had "music" in it -- and i cannot remember what it was called or how to reinstall it. Anyone?
[02:56] <h00k> codemonkey1337: It is not an Ubuntu support question. This isn't the place for it.
[02:57] <codemonkey1337> h00k: fine, where would be the a place to support it?
[02:57] <BigTaxi> i'm not sure what you mean. this computer is on the same exact network that the other cannot connect to, but used to be able to.
[02:57] <holstein> BigTaxi: correct.. and you are assuming that it has to be the issue.. and that is likely... but it wouldnt hurt to power cycle the router
[02:57] <h00k> codemonkey1337: I don't know, try !alis
[02:58] <h00k> !alis | codemonkey1337
[02:58] <rcmaehl> codemonkey1337: #linux
[02:58] <vinicius-ubunto> oi
[02:58] <h00k> codemonkey1337: or ##linux
[02:58] <metsys23> quick noob question: where typically are located the programs folders? for instance, i download a program, without software center, and want to put the download program into some "programs" folder... what should it be?
[02:58] <BigTaxi> it's not my router, it is owned by the people i live with.
[02:58] <sangosimo> urfr332g0 : I got it working. --takkun
[02:58] <bascotie> ok back
[02:58] <ulziibuyan> metsys32: /opt?
[02:59] <BigTaxi> however, this computere was asked for a passwork when i tried to get onto google last night. in-web browser.
[02:59] <BigTaxi> the non functioning one has not been asked that.
[02:59] <BigTaxi> that is the only difference i have come across.
[02:59] <BigTaxi> if power cycling is the only real option, i will wait until they are at work to sabotage the network tomorrow
[02:59] <kasansweat> ha, found it. "autojump" if you're interested.
[03:00] <metsys23> ulziibuyan, i dont know... but there are a program that i downloaded too
[03:00] <codemonkey1337> k, thanks, bye!
[03:00] <bascotie1> was this the one i was in lol?
[03:00] <holstein> BigTaxi: ?... google?.. if you are not online, google is irrelevant
[03:00] <Zillow> okay turns out I have a strange stand-alone version of apache2, if I remove it, it will break other packages, so I will just turn it off. :)
[03:00] <BigTaxi> no i know, i'm just relaying what happened last night.
[03:00] <BigTaxi> that's all.
[03:01] <BigTaxi> the non-functioning PC has yet to be asked for an access code, which occured in-browser on this, functioning computer
[03:01] <BigTaxi> although you'e right, it doesnt connect at all
[03:01] <BigTaxi> so i'm being a moron
[03:01] <holstein> BigTaxi: cool... let the past go... whats happening right now? can you connect wired?.. does the machine get an IP address?
[03:01] <ulziibuyan> metsys23: it could even be in your home folder.
[03:02] <Zillow> BigTaxi, can you clone your mac?
[03:02] <BigTaxi> no Ip, just able to see networks
[03:02] <BigTaxi> explain please
[03:02] <holstein> BigTaxi: if you pulug it in wired to the router, does it get an IP?
[03:03] <BigTaxi> i would assume so... but the router is not able to be screwed with at the moment
[03:03] <Zillow> BigTaxi, what you have described is a mac address block
[03:03] <holstein> yeah, is this *your* router BigTaxi ?
[03:04] <BigTaxi> no, it is the rentals.
[03:04] <linuxyay> i <3 ubuntu
[03:04] <BigTaxi> ok, what happens in a mac address block
[03:04] <BigTaxi> ?
[03:04] <Zillow> Big Taxi, do you pay for the internet?
[03:04] <BigTaxi> included in the monthly
[03:05] <superdave321> is apache web server already installed in ubuntu?
[03:05] <Zillow> superdave321 you can check by going to http://localhost
[03:06] <ch33z> Zillow how do i do taht
[03:06] <Zillow> well if it's running that is
[03:06] <ch33z> that*
[03:06] <Flannel> superdave321: Not normally.
[03:06] <ch33z> on the CLI?
[03:06] <BigTaxi> so no advice on the MAC block?
[03:06] <Zillow> BigTaxi, I don't know if such info is allowed in here
[03:07] <BigTaxi> oh damn.
[03:07] <h00k> BigTaxi: I'd ask whoever manages your router/access point to see if there's a block on your MAC address.
[03:07] <superdave321> Ok. so no. when i do apt-get install apache, it comes up as no installation canadate. how do i install it?
[03:07] <BigTaxi> murderface. OK, I will.
[03:07] <h00k> superdave321: apache2
[03:07] <Zillow> superdave do apache2
[03:07] <BigTaxi> bummer.
[03:07] <superdave321> h00k, Zillow: Ahh! Thanks!
[03:08] <holstein> BigTaxi: you have rebooted?
[03:08] <BigTaxi> computer? yes if restart = reboot
[03:08] <Zillow> BigTaxi, all i can say is google mac adress cloning
[03:08] <Zillow> address*
[03:08] <holstein> or, hit the reset button and *own* your own gateway!
[03:09] <Zillow> holstien: lol! then they would know!
[03:09] <sasven> Hi, i need help on adobe flash, the flash keeps crashing after sometime
[03:09] <holstein> Zillow: i think BigTaxi means from the ISP
[03:10] <BigTaxi> ok, ill do some research on cloning. thanks for the help, and if everything fails i will ask the people.
[03:10] <holstein> sasven: i would try chrome, AFAIK it has its own flash.. somethings are just awful for us in flash
[03:10] <sasven> ok thanks
[03:10] <Zillow> holstein: I think I missed that part.
[03:11] <holstein> Zillow: i could be mis-reading it
[03:11] <juan_> hi
[03:12] <Zillow> holstein: I was under the impression his rents where blocking him.
[03:13] <Zillow> were*
[03:13] <BigTaxi> and they could have blocked the MAC within the last 24 hours?
[03:13] <darkstar999> Where do I change the settings for which screen zones open the unity menu? I used to have it only open if mouse is at very top or bottom left
[03:14] <Zillow> BigTaxi, they would have had to setup MAC address filtering in the router
[03:15] <BigTaxi> which would have blocked my PC while i was at work? i leave it on basically all the time.
[03:15] <Zillow> BigTaxi, was it running bittorrent or using a load of bandwidth?
[03:16] <BigTaxi> no. i use bandwidth after 11 pm, when i get home. nobody else is on.
[03:17] <welly> Hey all, had a problem with my ubuntu 10.04 server crashing this weekend. I've put up a post on the forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924535 - if anyone has any insights or ideas what might have caused it, that'd be great
[03:17] <BigTaxi> and enough to surf and play bf3... thats it
[03:18] <wookienz> guys, wheni  log into unity on 11.10, i still have an errant task bar with "Applications and Places" sitting under the top title bar...how do i get rid of it?
[03:19] <oasisfleeting> I ran an "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.39.4" but I don't see the unpacked archive in my usr/src/ directory. Does anyone know why?
[03:20] <oasisfleeting> I need to copy a file into that folder but it says the directory doesn't exist
[03:21] <holstein> oasisfleeting: i would give the bigger picture.. whats are you trying to do? what guide are you following... etc
[03:21] <oasisfleeting> you're right.
[03:21] <oasisfleeting> sorry about that.
[03:22] <oasisfleeting> I'm attempting to install the compat wireless drivers for a wireless usb adapter. I'm following this article http://hezik.nl/?p=232
[03:23] <oasisfleeting> There is a step that involves creating a sym link in the linux-source-2.6.39.4 directory but i'm getting errors saying that directory doesn't exist
[03:23] <oasisfleeting> ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.39.4/Module.symvers /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.39.4/Module.symvers
[03:23] <Zillow> oasis fleeting: if I were you I would simply try "find / -name Debian.src.changelog"
[03:23] <christoffer> hello
[03:23] <oasisfleeting> okay zillow.
[03:24] <webroasters> is there a place (IRC channel) where I can ask htaccess questions?
[03:24] <Guest34792> hello any1 here?
[03:24] <webroasters> maybe the ubuntu server channel?
[03:24] <webroasters> howdy guest
[03:24] <Guest34792> any1 have exp about installing world of warcraft on ubuntu?
[03:25] <urfr332g0> Guest34792, I believe you need wine to run it.
[03:25] <Guest34792> when i try to login, and dobble click on the characther
[03:25] <cola__> hello
[03:25] <Guest34792> the game start blinking
[03:25] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: in your case probably "sudo su" then "find / -name Module.symvers"
[03:25] <Guest34792> yeh thats true
[03:25] <cfhowlett> cola__: greetings
[03:26] <h00k> !winehq | Guest34792
[03:26] <h00k> !wine | Guest34792
[03:26] <spvensko> i currently use OS X but i'm interested in using Ubuntu 11.10, i use the video chat feature in iChat very often, is there a linux client that supports the aim videochat feature similar to iChat?
[03:27] <Guest34792> but there is some config files i need to config to get wow running like in windows
[03:27] <h00k> !netsplit
[03:27] <oasisfleeting> Zillow, I the Module.symvers is in the headers directory. It's the other directory that I can't seem to find. the destination folder /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.39.4/ is the one I can't find.
[03:27] <cfhowlett> spvensko: gwibber does
[03:27] <spvensko> cfhowlett: thanks!
[03:28] <h00k> Fasten your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen, some servers are having some difficulties.
[03:28] <urfr332g0> Guest34792, probably not going to run like windows in a emulator.
[03:28] <cola__> any help with dual monitors
[03:29] <Zillow> oasis fleeting: did you have luck with: "find / -name Debian.src.changelog" ?
[03:29] <Guest34792> any1 know any Black hat channels?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Guest34792: nope
[03:29] <cola__> hello
[03:29] <oasisfleeting> Zillow, yes. That returned /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.38/Debian.src.changelog.
[03:29] <cfhowlett> cola__: greetings - again
[03:30] <skilz> Guest34792, Not on freenode!
[03:30] <mersault> I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 (clean install, but on hardware that previously ran 11.04) and I'm having trouble getting vdpau to work. Am I missing anything obvious? It was painless on 11.04 if I recall correctly...
[03:31] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: that one is way above my paygrade, no idea bro
[03:32] <Zillow> oasisfleeting, you could always wget it?
[03:33] <oasisfleeting> Zillow, let me ask you a question. I did an "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.39.4" So why is my debian changelog in linux-source-2.6.38?
[03:33] <oasisfleeting> wget it? wget what?
[03:34] <oasisfleeting> oh
[03:34] <oasisfleeting> I have already gotten it.
[03:34] <oasisfleeting> i can see the tar in my usr/src/ directory
[03:34] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: XD
[03:35] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: mystery solved!
[03:35] <oasisfleeting> I'm still pretty new to linux. perhaps you can enlighten me?
[03:36] <holstein> oasisfleeting: looks like you found what you were looking for.. no?.. maybe apt-get source is more what you are looking for?
[03:38] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: I grant you enlightenment. :)
[03:38] <iToast> Hey
[03:38] <oasisfleeting> I do have the tar, and I have done and "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.39.4" But still when I run this command, it says it can't find the directory linux-source-2.6.39.4 "ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.39.4/Module.symvers /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.39.4/Module.symvers"
[03:38] <iToast> I'm having a problem with my lamp install...
[03:38] <oasisfleeting> What am I not understanding?
[03:39] <iToast> When ever I go to run my php script i get a  500 error but when i try <?php phpinfo(); ?> evertything checks out...
[03:39] <aj00200> iToast: check your logs for errors
[03:40] <iToast> aj00200, were are my apache logs...
[03:40] <oasisfleeting> Are you guys saying, I should just untar the tarball?
[03:40] <iToast> :P
[03:40] <aj00200> iToast: /var/log/apache is the default, I think. I am not sure on that as I use nginx.
[03:40] <jwinterm> amy winehouse untared the tarball
[03:41] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: yes
[03:41] <oasisfleeting> Zillow, anything else? Do I need to run the install again or anything?
[03:41] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: no
[03:41] <shaneo> hi guys is there a way to make unzip command only extract the files into a folder instead of creating a folder named after the zip
[03:41] <oasisfleeting> hmm
[03:41] <nooberific> how or what do i need to  compile a game tar.gz
[03:42] <oasisfleeting> okay. I've done this before but in a different environment. I will try again.
[03:42] <mrguser> Hihdhdhg
[03:42] <mrguser> Hahaha
[03:42] <oasisfleeting> Thanks, holstein, Zillow.
[03:42] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: youre welcome
[03:42] <mrguser> Whtz hack!!!!
[03:43] <Zillow> oasisfleeting: you'll get it, you have been granted enlightenment.
[03:43] <mrguser> M joing here with irc
[03:43] <iToast> [Sun Feb 12 22:37:41 2012] [error] [client 192.168.2.1] PHP Parse error:  syntax error, unexpected ';' in /var/www/register.php on line 10, referer: http://isay.dyndns.org/register.html
[03:43] <iToast> :s
[03:43] <iToast> Damn php isn't reporting errors.
[03:44] <iToast> Ty aj, its also thw wrong dir btw
[03:44] <aj00200> yeah, apache2
[03:44] <aj00200> I just checked myself
[03:44] <iToast> still wrong :P
[03:44] <aj00200> did you set a custom directory?
[03:44] <iToast> 1 sec
[03:44] <iToast> "[10]+  Stopped                 nano /var/log/apache2/error.log
[03:44] <iToast> "
[03:44] <iToast> No
[03:44] <iToast> Stock install
[03:44] <_bb> tail -5 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[03:45] <aj00200> yeah, I said /var/log/apache
[03:45] <iToast> u forgot error.log >:D
[03:45] <mrguser> fuck
[03:45] <log> ?
[03:45] <h00k> !language | mrguser
[03:45] <Tech-1> watch your mouth
[03:45] <aj00200> you also have other logs there which might be helpful so I pointed you to all of them. But you have them so it is not important
[03:45] <iToast> aj00200, FOUND THE ERROR!
[03:45] <aj00200> good :)
[03:45] <log> aj00200: I am a helpful log.
[03:45] <iToast> I'm really stupid, i forgot a ')' at the end of my hash...
[03:46] <iToast> log, what happened to my mysql server?
[03:46] <iToast> What did it log before it exploded
[03:46] <log> I'm not that helpful.
[03:46] <aj00200> log: nice to meet you. I have met my fair share of unhelpful logs
[03:46] <iToast> log, when did the system explode last time?
[03:46] <iToast> log, were are the ubuntu system logs anyways? /var/log/system.log?
[03:46] <log> Error. Log unreadable.
[03:47] <mrguser> Irc.freenode.net
[03:47] <aj00200> "Unable to open log file. This event will be logged."
[03:47] <iToast> Fail
[03:47] <Uluru> ubuntu 11.10 - There's shearing in video playback using VLC. I had this when I experimented with ubuntu before but it required fixes in compiz and other options. Is there a solution for shearing on a new install?
[03:47] <capcook> what are you doing, mrguser?
[03:47] <aj00200> that depends on exactly which logs you want but the file names are normally clear enough
[03:48] <its_falling> Is there a reason why standard Ubuntu is so full of "default apps" that I have to spend a lot of time uninstalling?
[03:49] <cola_> hello
[03:49] <iToast> its_falling, its ment for the general user, not hardcore people
[03:49] <aj00200> hello cola_
[03:49] <cola_> just testing irssi
[03:49] <ritz> hmm, selinux implementation on ubuntu (precise ) aint too great. Do we have an equivalent of setroubleshoot/sealert ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SELinux/SETroubleShoot/UserFAQ ) ?
[03:49] <iToast> cola_, is irssi good? I considered it
[03:49] <h00k> !precise | ritz
[03:49] <capcook> he is testing
[03:49] <its_falling> iToast: I'm not hardcore, pretty new to this all, but...gah, maybe it's useful to most other people
[03:50] <h00k> ritz: head to #ubuntu+1 for support of this
[03:50] <aj00200> iToast: irssi is my favorite client :)
[03:50] <iToast> its_falling, Don't complain then, its a "general perpose" cos
[03:50] <iToast> os*
[03:50]  * mrguser slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large E63-1
[03:50] <ritz> h00k, hmm, thanks. How is the selinux implementation on 1irc ?
[03:50] <cola_> iToast: ya i like it previously used xchat, no big reason to switch besides the awesomness of the terminal
[03:50] <Zillow> I still use 10.04
[03:51] <iToast> its_falling, there may be a customized ubuntu distro to your needs
[03:51] <iToast> cola_, Im a windows user...
[03:51]  * mrguser slaps Zillow around a bit with a large E63-1
[03:51] <h00k> !ot | mrguser
[03:51] <its_falling> iToast: I'm not complaining, just wondering if I'm doing something wrong...is there a "minimalist version"
[03:51] <Zillow> mrguser: XD ouch!
[03:51] <cola_> iToast: dont know much then, although i also occasionally use windows
[03:51] <damo22> i made a livecd that boots to console headless with sshd running and grabs an ip via dhcp :)
[03:51]  * iToast slaps mrguser around a bit with a long rss32 cable
[03:51] <its_falling> iToast: At the very least, why can't I select what language packs/apps I want installed in the installation process?
[03:52] <zykotick9> !mini | its_falling this is a debian net-install version of ubuntu
[03:52] <iToast> its_falling, the expert install should let you choose the packages
[03:52] <Joe____> iv got something that might stump you guys
[03:52] <Joe____> anyone up for a challange?
[03:52] <its_falling> ahh! Thanks guys! Knew I could count on your for help :)
[03:53] <h00k> !ask | Joe____
[03:53] <iToast> its_falling, Your welcome to /part #ubuntu Linux isn't a good choice for me at any time.
[03:54] <ritz> where do I find setroubleshoot for ubuntu/1irc ?
[03:54] <its_falling> Now, I only have to figure out if it's possible to cancel my current installation
[03:54] <its_falling> It's downloading the language packs, and its current estimate is 120 minutes
[03:55] <iToast> its_falling, reboot the computer.
[03:55] <DinoMuffin> you're just going to reformat it anyways, correct?
[03:55] <iToast> its_falling, just reboot hte machine and redo it all...
[03:55] <iToast> the*
[03:55] <Scarra3> I am going to start programming in C++ in ubuntu but what do I need to compile things
[03:55] <its_falling> Well, I guess I will be reformatting, but I do have win7 installed as well - it won't affect anything, right?
[03:55] <DinoMuffin> Scarra3:  g++
[03:56] <Joe____> alright then sorry guys! haha, well I have a server that I want to install ubuntu to but im encountering a few problems...the server is a Dell Poweredge 2650 and consequently does not support booting via USB so I cannot use that as an install medium. My CD drive is working...but for some reason will not recognize my install CD as bootable medium (although i know the CD works as I tested it in another computer)......so my only other 
[03:56] <Joe____> howo to start this?
[03:56] <damo22> itsfalling: you can save the package downloads and use them again on next boot
[03:56] <its_falling> ahh, alright.
[03:56] <its_falling> Let me give this a try.
[03:56] <urfr332g0> joe75, you can boot a usb with plop, or use the minimal cd.
[03:57] <h00k> Scarra3: build-essentials package
[03:57] <Scarra3> h00k: Anything else?
[03:57] <Joe____> the poweredge BISO does NOT support booting via USB, and as I said for some reason the CD drive is not recognising bootable media
[03:58] <Joe____> BIOS*
[03:58] <h00k> Scarra3: no
[03:58] <overclucker> Scarra3: the package is build-essential, and yes, you'll need a code editor or ide that you feel comfortable with
[03:58] <Scarra3> h00k: alright thank you so its just "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"?
[03:59] <h00k> Scarra3: yep
[03:59] <Joe____> by the way im a newbie, GUI user, and i use mostly windows, i wanted to get ubuntu on my server to start playing around with it
[03:59] <DinoMuffin> I reccomend codeblocks
[03:59] <tomreyn> Joe____: doesn't have DRAC something like remote virtual cdrom drives?
[03:59] <DinoMuffin> if you like GUIs anyways
[03:59] <zykotick9> Scarra3: it's build-essential, no s at the end
[04:00] <iToast> aj00200, thanks to you i can debug php problems faster.
[04:00] <iToast> aj00200, can i pm you.
[04:01] <Scarra3> overclucker: I was looking at using the text editor that comes with ubuntu or go with vi or vim
[04:01] <DinoMuffin> use vim
[04:01] <iToast> use nano
[04:01] <overclucker> Scarra3: i use vim, and sometimes emacs
[04:01] <DinoMuffin> I don't think vi has native syntax support
[04:01] <DinoMuffin> vim does
[04:01] <Joe____> I have not looked into DRAC but I will give it a try! thanks!
[04:02] <Scarra3> overclucker: is vim hard to learn to use?
[04:02] <Scarra3> Btw with a laptop with an ati graphics card I should install fglrx right?
[04:03] <Scarra3> exit
[04:03] <overclucker> Scarra3: it takes some time to get used to, and more time to learn to use advanced features, emacs is the same
[04:03] <DinoMuffin> It's a lot like learning anything in linux. It has a bit of a difficulty curve, but pays off later on
[04:04] <Scarra3> overclucker: So to install its just sudo apt-get install vim?
[04:04] <overclucker> Scarra3: yup, that'll replace vim tiny on your system
[04:05] <Scarra3> overclucker: I'm guessing thats what I would want to do, sorry I haven't used ubuntu in a long time so I am trying to get back into it
[04:05] <aj00200> iToast: yes, you can pm me (sorry for the delay)
[04:06] <overclucker> Scarra3: yup, that's right
[04:06] <iToast> Can i refresh a file in nano?
[04:06] <neiz> Scarra3: what gpu card?
[04:06] <iToast> So I get its latest contents.
[04:07] <Scarra3> neiz: its in my laptop and I don't remember off the top of my head give me one second
[04:07] <zykotick9> Scarra3: to list your GPU you could use "lspci | grep -i vga"
[04:08] <Scarra3> neiz: ati mobility radeon hd 4250
[04:08] <neiz> Scarra3: i have an radeon 5770 and have never been able to get good results out of the proprietary driver.. builtin one has always been better for me
[04:09] <Scarra3> in my desktop i have the ati radeon hd 5770 but the fglrx work better for the ones in my desktop
[04:09] <tomreyn> Joe____: doh you have a 2650, that's a pretty aged box you have there. still nice to play with, i guess. though its drac may not be great.
[04:10] <Zillow> I have a 5770 also, I get about 0.015BTC a day with it
[04:10] <Zillow> oops no, 0.15BTC*
[04:11] <neiz> Zillow: crossfire it for .3BTC :p
[04:11] <tomreyn> Joe____: it does have a remote floppy boot capability though. http://www.sizledcore.com/2011/01/default-root-password-for-drac-poweredge-2650/
[04:13] <Zillow> neiz, if I could afford another, I think I would opt for a 5830 or 5850, but my 1 HD 5770 is good enough
[04:13] <Tech-1> if i had your money, id retire
[04:15] <ch33z> "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf" any reason why this isnt working?
[04:15] <somsip> ch33z: gksudo gedit....
[04:16] <ch33z> ah so its gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:16] <iToast> I keep forgeting this, < means smaller than right?
[04:16] <somsip> ch33z: I understand that's how it works. I use vi in teminal
[04:16] <ch33z> woops i didnt install that yet  ha
[04:17] <somsip> iToast: x < y (x is smaller than y)
[04:17] <ch33z> thanks somsip
[04:17] <iToast> somsip, Ty, i gotta check my mysql querys to make sure i got that right :p
[04:17] <ch33z> somsip from him/her some done
[04:17] <somsip> iToast: it helps
[04:17] <ch33z> dont*
[04:18] <iToast> somsip, "if(mysql_num_Rows($is_registered_check) < 0)" that breaks the register...
[04:19] <ch33z> odd
[04:19] <somsip> iToast: not sure what you means by 'breaks register' but maybe you want ==false there
[04:19] <mumbo77> hi,does any1 know a gud channel fr 'minix'?
[04:19] <ch33z> somsip it says "GTK-warning **: cannot open display"
[04:19] <iToast> somsip, That stops the script from inserting into the database...
[04:20] <somsip> iToast: i tried to help, but you really want #mysql not #ubuntu
[04:20] <Zillow> ch33z try nano
[04:20] <somsip> ch33z: are you running in X?
[04:20] <ch33z> no just CLI
[04:20] <somsip> ch33z: then gkedit won't run. as Zillow said - use something else
[04:20] <ryanCH> I am in the same dir as this executable, I type ./fbc and I get "bash: ./fbc: No such file or directory"
[04:20] <ch33z> ah'
[04:20] <ch33z> damn
[04:21] <ryanCH> what is wrong :(
[04:21] <Ben64> ch33z: the g in gedit = gnome
[04:21] <ch33z> ah
[04:21] <ch33z> should i just install a gui?
[04:21] <ch33z> im runinng a server
[04:21] <Dwade09> i just installed the new ubuntu, how do i turn off my web cam?
[04:21] <somsip> ch33z: and the b in gedit stands for bloat
[04:21] <ch33z> but running a server with gui is kinda dumb right?
[04:22] <Ben64> ch33z: correcy
[04:22] <Ben64> s/y/t/
[04:22] <Feldegast> ch33z try mc that's what i like
[04:22] <Canadian1296> How do i start the gui in ubuntu desktop from the command line (i booted with the "text" option in grub) without rebooting? like "service ____ start". What's the blank?
[04:22] <ch33z> mc?
[04:22] <None> can someone help me with installing mathematica?
[04:22] <DinoMuffin> ryanCH: make sure you're using the correct case. It is case sensitive
[04:22] <Feldegast> midnight commander
[04:22] <ch33z> ah
[04:22] <Dwade09> i just installed the new ubuntu, how do i turn off my web cam?
[04:23] <ch33z> well hmm
[04:23] <ryanCH> DinoMuffin, I tried that too :(
[04:23] <Feldegast> ch33z mc has a filemanager and editor
[04:23] <Ben64> Canadian1296: which version ubuntu
[04:23] <ryanCH> DinoMuffin, didn't work :(
[04:23] <Canadian1296> Ubuntu desktop 11.10
[04:23] <Canadian1296> Ben64: ubuntu desktop 11.10
[04:23] <almoxarife> ch33z: i use sftp to make changes to files on the server of mine, use the clients tools to make changes then update
[04:23] <DinoMuffin> ryanCH:  and when you type 'ls' you see the file?
[04:23] <ch33z> almoxarife so all i am trying to do is
[04:24] <ryanCH> DinoMuffin, yeah it's green color "fbc"
[04:24] <ch33z> almoxarife simple html files, and share some hard drives I have the static ip set up as well so yea
[04:24] <Ben64> Canadian1296: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[04:24] <ch33z> almoxarife I imagine just the DNS, samba, and apache need to be configured?
[04:25] <serversale> I am selling dedicated servers (VDS) in different countries, windows xp, 2003,2008, seven, linux! write to PM who need them.
[04:25] <Canadian1296> Ben64: /etc/init.d/gdm not found
[04:25] <Ben64> Canadian1296: try "sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start"
[04:25] <csprite> what scripting language do yall like more between ruby / python?
[04:26] <Canadian1296> Ben64: That worked, thanks :)
[04:26] <zykotick9> Ben64: get with the times, using init.d to start/stop is so 2009 ;)
[04:26] <Ben64> zykotick9: never.
[04:26] <Canadian1296> zykotick9: haha, yes i know i can do "sudo service lightdm start"
[04:26] <almoxarife> ch33z: you already have ssh to the server, add sftpd to the server, then make the connection to the server with every gui tool avail, works for me
[04:27] <R3ad> Hi guys.
[04:27] <ch33z> o cool, but almoxarife arent gui bad for the servers?
[04:27] <R3ad> Just a quick query; Say I wanted to install ubuntu onto a tablet.....how would I do that.
[04:27] <ch33z> almoxarife web servers and such?
[04:28] <ch33z> almoxarife since servers are used with only the CLI?
[04:28] <almoxarife> ch33z: the gui is at the client not the server
[04:28] <ch33z> almoxarife which is what i am using...
[04:28] <ch33z> almoxarife the server..
[04:28] <Feldegast> ch33z no need for a gui on a server, do all your stuff on another system and copy to the server
[04:28] <R3ad> Anyone.....?
[04:28] <almoxarife> ch33z: what Feldegast said
[04:29] <Feldegast> R3ad put the iso onto a usb drive
[04:29] <R3ad> No need to edit the mbr?
[04:29] <Feldegast> R3ad there are tolls that help you set up the usb drive
[04:29] <R3ad> There's no post screen at startup, no boot options...
[04:30] <tomreyn> R3ad: first make sure the tablet is compatible at all in terms of hardware, have you dont this, yet?
[04:30] <ch33z> ah
[04:30] <Feldegast> once you have that you can install from the usb drive to the tablet
[04:30] <ch33z> almoxarife so i just need sftpd and thats it?
[04:30] <sgo11> hi, with xrandr -o left, i got the following error: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[04:30] <R3ad> Being that I'm running droid,'m running droid.
[04:30] <Canadian1296> How do I change the "Welcome to Ubuntu…" message at login. I tried editing /etc/motd but it changes itself back.
[04:30] <Feldegast> R3ad that's IF you can boot from usb from the tablet
[04:30] <R3ad> Fair enough.
[04:31] <R3ad> Droid is just a pain in the ass and I want something more malleable.
[04:31] <R3ad> Ah well.
[04:31] <tomreyn> it's also not linux
[04:31] <tomreyn> and you may have trouble with drivers
[04:31] <Feldegast> R3ad i am waiting for the Spark tablet
[04:32] <R3ad> I was thinking I might have driver trouble.
[04:32] <R3ad> However I did think it was a flavour of linux...
[04:32] <R3ad> Spark tablet?
[04:32] <Feldegast> spark tablet should be available next month sfw http://aseigo.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00Z&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=8
[04:33] <sabgenton> does anyone know what  the file name/path is to the standerd c library gcc compiles with?
[04:33] <dr_willis> new toys :)
[04:34] <BlueProtoman> Anyone know why I'm getting this GIMP error?  "Libgimp version mismatch!  The GIMP binary cannot run with a libgimp version other than its own. This is GIMP 2.6.11, but the libgimp version is 2.7.3.  Maybe you have GIMP versions in both /usr and /usr/local ?"  Any ideas?  I did try and install both GIMP and GIMPshop at the same time (Ubuntu 11.04).  GIMPshop doesn't have a native binary available for Ubuntu 11.04, so I compiled it from s
[04:34] <tomreyn> R3ad: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu
[04:34] <R3ad> The soark tablet loks interesting.
[04:34] <Canadian1296> ?
[04:34] <LincKraker> i'm trying to delete a file that has nonassci characters or something in the name. i get ls cannot access no such file or directory. but its there
[04:34] <Feldegast> BlueProtoman you need to downgrade libgimp i think
[04:34] <dr_willis> gimpshop wants a older lib perhaps
[04:35] <BlueProtoman> I want both GIMP and GIMPshop, though.
[04:35] <ch33z> hmmm
[04:35] <LincKraker> upgrade gimp?
[04:35] <dr_willis> is gimpshop still being developed?
[04:35] <ch33z> Feldegast how exactly do i add the files from another server?
[04:35] <sgo11> hi, with xrandr -o left, i got the following error: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[04:35] <ch33z> i mean client
[04:35] <Feldegast> BlueProtoman can you downgrade one so they both work?
[04:35] <R3ad> Oh.
[04:35] <escott> LincKraker, you can delete files by inode if you cannot escape the strings. its usually done by calling find ... -delete
[04:35] <Ben64> LincKraker: you have to escape strange characters
[04:35] <sgo11> how to rotate the display in ubunut? thanks.
[04:35] <BlueProtoman> Feldegast: No, I dunno how.  Reinstalling GIMP didn't fix anything.
[04:35] <Feldegast> ch33z samba
[04:35] <nug700> I'm trying to install the ubuntu recomended NVIDIA drivers on ubuntu 11.10, but I need to install nvidia-glx before I can install the drivers. Is that correct
[04:35] <ch33z> ah cool
[04:36] <R3ad> Fair enoug, I know it runs as a virtual machine on top of something.
[04:36] <Ben64> nug700: no
[04:36] <ch33z> Feldegast samba is installed so now what? ;0
[04:36] <R3ad> Dalvik.
[04:36] <Ben64> nug700: you go to the Hardware Drivers application and activate the nvidia drivers
[04:36] <LincKraker> escott, Ben64 what?
[04:36] <R3ad> Might just have to buy an el cheapo netpad.
[04:36] <dr_willis> nug700:  the druvers in the repos pulled that in for me
[04:36] <Feldegast> ch33z i did this about 10 years ago so i am a little rusty :(
[04:37] <ch33z> aww its fine dude Feldegast whatever help you can give.
[04:37] <BrandonBolton> Hello everyone, I am having a problem with 10.04.3 and wireless cards.
[04:37] <nug700> I do.. but they arn't working right... my computer isnt detecting my second monitor
[04:37] <LincKraker> nug700: nvidia-settings?
[04:37] <ch33z> Feldegast im just trying to set up a new server with hosting html files and being able to access hard drives plugged in the server
[04:37] <Ben64> nug700: you do... what?
[04:37] <escott> LincKraker, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-remove-files-with-special-characters-in-linux.html
[04:37] <dr_willis> nug700:  you ran the nvidia-settings tool?
[04:38] <nug700> where?
[04:38] <nug700> Ican't find many settings in ubuntu 11
[04:38] <Feldegast> ch33z if you have apache, samba and you can even install ssh for remote access you should be fine, you can install webmin as well if you want a remote gui like config
[04:38] <nug700> like I use to in 10
[04:38] <dr_willis> terminal is one way nug700
[04:38] <LincKraker> just open a terminal and run nvidia-settings
[04:38] <LincKraker> nug700: just open a terminal and run nvidia-settings
[04:38] <zykotick9> !webmin | ch33z Feldegast
[04:38] <JAM__> I have a cli question
[04:39] <nug700> ahhhhhh
[04:39] <dr_willis> ch33z:  dont use webmin.
[04:39] <ch33z> ah
[04:39] <Feldegast> zykotick9 that is a shame :(
[04:39] <ch33z> dr_willis instead of that
[04:39] <ch33z> thenwhat?
[04:39] <dr_willis> !ebox
[04:39] <zykotick9> Feldegast: no, it isn't.
[04:39] <nug700> I get this error when I try enable the other monitor:
[04:39] <dr_willis> webmin has been.. well.. problematic for years.
[04:39] <nug700> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1366x768 +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select @1024x768 +1366+0' (Mode 2390x768, id: 50) on X screen 0.
[04:40] <Feldegast> ch33z as i said, 10 years, try zentyal as sugested, tho i have not used it
[04:40] <Ben64> nug700: then you need to try another resolution
[04:40] <JAM__> I want to unrar a directory full of rars, it might have incomplete/corrupt files. would 'unrar e -o- rarfileshere' output any files that don't match CRC?
[04:40] <tomreyn> sgo11: check /var/log/Xorg.log* and ~/.xession-errors for more details
[04:40] <ch33z> o
[04:41] <tomreyn> sgo11: xrandr -o left works here, so the usage should be okay, unless you have misspelled something
[04:41] <BrandonBolton> Is there any way I can get my wireless to work in 10.04.3 LTS Edition?
[04:41] <Ben64> BrandonBolton: probably
[04:41] <ulziibuyan> JAM__: man unrar?
[04:42] <BrandonBolton> How can I? I just did a clean install and it stopped working after that.
[04:42] <Feldegast> BrandonBolton ndiswrapper?
[04:42] <Ben64> BrandonBolton: you'll need to provide full details if you expect us to have any chance of helping you
[04:42] <Feldegast> or a newer kernel
[04:42] <nug700> I can't find any resolutions that work
[04:43] <BrandonBolton> Feldegast: I can't connect to the internet to install ndiswrapper.
[04:43] <sgo11> tomreyn, I have slow connection to this irc channel. just saw your post. many people met this same problem, I saw many posts with the same problem online, but nobody replies. let me check the log file...
[04:43] <Feldegast> BrandonBolton use a network cable?
[04:44] <BrandonBolton> Ben64: I am trying to connect to either a Linksys AE1000 or an TP0Link TL-WN321G
[04:44] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html
[04:44] <LincKraker> escott: i'm getting the same error using the inode method
[04:44] <BrandonBolton> tomreyn, I will try that right now. Thank you.
[04:45] <escott> LincKraker, replace the -exec rm {} \; with -delete and try again
[04:45] <ch33z> wtf zentyal
[04:45] <escott> LincKraker, if that doesn
[04:45] <escott> LincKraker, if that doesn't work send the exact command you are executing and the error
[04:45] <Feldegast> ch33z as i said i have not used it
[04:46] <Feldegast> ch33z i was just about to get it to see what it did
[04:46] <LincKraker> escott: the inode number keeps changing after every try
[04:46] <sgo11> tomreyn, just checked those log file. no message related to xrandr action at all.
[04:46] <dr_willis> !info zentyal
[04:46] <tomreyn> sgo11: okay, sorry then, it was just a guess
[04:46] <sgo11> tomreyn,  btw, I am using nvidia card.
[04:46] <escott> LincKraker, what file are you trying to delete
[04:46] <ch33z> ah cool
[04:47] <LincKraker> escott: http://pastebin.com/SdY8pSpy
[04:47] <BrandonBolton> Ben64, I forgot to mention, on the TP-Link I can connect to the wireless router if I configure it manually by typing in the network name and the key but when I try to go to the internet nothing can connect.
[04:47] <tomreyn> sgo11: you may try to switch to the other driver variant (open source / proprietary) if that's an option.
[04:47] <zykotick9> !info ebox | dr_willis still old name
[04:47] <escott> LincKraker, what kind of share is this?
[04:47] <LincKraker> greyhole
[04:47] <tomreyn> sgo11: but it's probably something i'd try after everything else fails.
[04:47] <LincKraker> smb share
[04:47] <Feldegast> BrandonBolton this might be a dns issue, have you tried setting a dns server?
[04:47] <sgo11> tomreyn, sorry, I don't plan to switch to open source driver. nvidia driver is much better. thanks.
[04:48] <hammoommah> i am looking for simple to use graph plotter. I downloaded R but i dont want to learn a whole system just for my math 2 units, would be good if it can be imported straight into Latex
[04:48] <nomasl> Do you see your GF at her home or your home?
[04:48] <escott> LincKraker, fix it on the server.
[04:48] <LincKraker> i'm on the server
[04:49] <Ben64> LincKraker: no you're not...
[04:49] <escott> LincKraker, but you have mounted a samba share so remove the file on the server that is serving that CIFS share.
[04:49] <LincKraker> escott: i am
[04:49] <BrandonBolton> Feldegast, Yes, I am using that same connection on my netbook which is running JoliOS. I use OpenDNS for my DNS server. I never had a problem with Ubuntu like this until 10.04.3
[04:49] <LincKraker> the shares are local shares mounted to the server
[04:50] <sgo11> did some modification of xorg.conf. let me reboot to test.
[04:50] <LincKraker> greyhole doesn't like poeple playing with the actual files without going through the shares
[04:50] <prateekp> hello, can anyone tell me how to get the text file of the terminal output
[04:50] <escott> LincKraker, ok so what kind of FS is the file?
[04:50] <Ben64> LincKraker: delete the file on the actual computer the file is really on
[04:51] <dr_willis> prateekp:  clarify some more.
[04:51] <LincKraker> you're saying i gotta take the risk and actually delete the file from the hard drive not thru the share
[04:51] <xSmurf> is there a way to have persistent X remote sessions without a virtual desktop (aka in windowed mode)?
[04:51] <Ben64> LincKraker: how is that risky? that is how almost every computer works
[04:51] <escott> LincKraker, YES. and how is that a risk its what you are asking it to do.
[04:51] <dr_willis> LincKraker: ive never had it matter if i did it that way
[04:51] <LincKraker> escott: Ben64 http://www.greyhole.net/
[04:51] <Feldegast> LincKraker make a copy 1st
[04:51] <prateekp> suppose i got an error message on my terminal , and i want to copy it down to a file ... how can i d so
[04:52] <LincKraker> dr_willis: you're using greyhole?
[04:52] <dr_willis> prateekp:  use mouse. select copy paste
[04:52] <nug700> How do I restart X server?
[04:52] <Feldegast> nug700 sudo startx
[04:52] <xSmurf> ;exit
[04:52] <dr_willis> LincKraker:  i use samba all the time. no ifea what greyhole is
[04:52] <prateekp> no that i can do ... but is it possible to log that output in a new file
[04:53] <dr_willis> prateekp:  see the   typescript command
[04:53] <dr_willis> logs a whole session
[04:53] <zykotick9> prateekp: standard out/standard error - can be redirected to files (but you can't do this after the fact/error)
[04:53] <dr_willis> nug700:  sudo service lightdm restart
[04:53] <escott> LincKraker, file a bug with greyhole.net then
[04:54] <prateekp> typescript command not found
[04:54] <dr_willis> !find typescript
[04:54] <mroon> Hi, i installed Ubuntu on a pen drive. How do I get a 'Install Ubuntu on Hard Disk' icon somewhere on this?
[04:54] <LincKraker> escott: thanks for the help. i didn't even think about the samba share being a problem
[04:54] <dr_willis> hmm. i may be rembering the name wrong
[04:54] <urfr332g0> mroon, full install?
[04:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis: prateekp it's just "script"
[04:55] <dr_willis> not on a ubuntu box
[04:55] <mroon> urfr332g0, yes.. full install into 8 gig a pen drive
[04:55] <prateekp> terminal says typescript command not found
[04:55] <dr_willis> !find script
[04:55] <urfr332g0> mroon, you would have to clone it.
[04:56] <urfr332g0> mroon, or remastersys and make a iso.
[04:56] <zykotick9> dr_willis: script appears to be in the bsdutils package
[04:56] <prateekp> so now what to write in the terminal to get the terminal output logged
[04:57] <mroon> urfr332g0, the friend to whom i am going to give the pen drive to may find cloning/restoring a bit troublesome... isn't there a easier way like getting the same icon/script from the live media?
[04:57] <urfr332g0> mroon, as far as I know you can't install a running OS.
[04:58] <Ben64> mroon: you'd have to make a live usb
[04:58] <dr_willis> http://www.playterm.org/   shows a neat use if that script commands
 I have a displaylink (mimo) usb monitor here
 the kernel drivers autoload and i get a /dev/fb1 device
[04:58] <urfr332g0> !remaster
 now how can i expand my display to use it?
[04:58] <urfr332g0> mroon, ^^^^
[04:58] <dr_willis> prateekp: use script command befor you start
[04:59] <dr_willis> prateekp:  check http://www.playterm.org/
[04:59] <nomasl> Do you see your GF at her home or your home?
[04:59] <Feldegast> mroon also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:00] <fabijan> hi all
[05:00] <prateekp> that is u r saying .... just write sript <file> before u run ur program
[05:00] <urfr332g0> nomasl, are you a bot?
[05:00] <prateekp> is that so
[05:00] <nomasl> No.
[05:00] <tomreyn> nomasl: are you on the wrong irc network?
[05:00] <sgo11> tomreyn, found the solution. I need to add Option	"RandRRotation"	"on" to my Xorg.conf. I thought linux now didn't need xorg.conf before, thus I did not have this file at all.
[05:00] <nomasl> Wondering where you see your GF.
[05:00] <nomasl> AT your home or hers.
[05:00] <escott> sgo11, it does for nvidia
[05:00] <nug700> I kind of got my second monitor working... I can bring my mouse over to it... except it's all white, and I cant drag anything to it
[05:00] <dr_willis> prateekp: yes it records the session.
[05:01] <Ben64> nomasl: offtopic for this channel, take it somewhere else
[05:01] <nug700> grammer fail.. oops
[05:01] <prateekp> ok in the file i wrote after script command , right
[05:01] <tomreyn> sgo11: glad you solved it. i also came across this in the meantime: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/765850
[05:01] <nug700> I'm also getting all these errors in terminal:
[05:01] <alecbenzer> my window manager keeps crashing periodically when I alt-tab. I've tried using different switcher plugins through ccsm but none of them seem to make the problem go away. any ideas?
[05:02] <fabijan> can anyone tell me how to make web camera to work on sites with the webcam chat and similar..im new in ubuntu and i could use a help
[05:02] <tomreyn> sgo11: does it already work then?
[05:02] <tomreyn> nomasl: that's related to ubuntu how exactly?
[05:03] <sgo11> tomreyn, yeah, it already works now. thanks. :)
[05:03] <tomreyn> cool
[05:03] <mroon> Thanks Ben64, urfr332g0, Feldegast !
[05:03] <dr_willis> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/script-command-to-record-everything.html
[05:04] <nomasl> tomreyn, Just doing some research.
[05:04] <nomasl> tomreyn, I am one of the founders of ubuntu, for what it's worth.
[05:04] <nug700> my second monitor is responding now.. at last... but it's all white, and I can't drag any programs to it... I can bring my mouse to it though
[05:04] <fabijan> ok guys thanks for nothing...
[05:04] <bazhang> !ot | nomasl
[05:04] <nug700> oh.. and I get this error in terminal: http://pastebin.com/HRmeEjs2
[05:05] <Uluru> nomasl is a "circumcision" troll. please remove him. Hes bothering #hardware already.
[05:05] <Uluru> anyway, about my video shearing question.
[05:05] <Uluru> ubuntu 11.10 - There's shearing in video playback using VLC. I had this when I experimented with ubuntu before but it required fixes in compiz and other options. Is there a solution for shearing on a new install?
[05:05] <nomasl> Uluru, Whether or not you've been circumised is irrelevant here in #ubuntu. Take it to ##hardware.
[05:08] <nug700> hello?
[05:09] <tomreyn> prateekp: ttyrec is a better script replacement
[05:09] <dwade09_> how do i turn off the green light on my camera in ubuntu 11.10?
[05:09] <tomreyn> nug700: hello!
[05:10] <nug700> [22:04:22] <nug700> my second monitor is responding now.. at last... but it's all white, and I can't drag any programs to it... I can bring my mouse to it though
[05:10] <nug700> [22:04:50] <nug700> oh.. and I get this error in terminal: http://pastebin.com/HRmeEjs2
[05:11] <urfr332g0> Uluru, you can report them to the channel of of said channel.
[05:11] <urfr332g0> ops
[05:11] <nug700> Oh.. the second monitor isn't just white anymore.. the backround image is displaying.. except I can't do anything on it except move my mouse over it
[05:12] <dwade09_> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and updated everything is there any way i can get my web cam light to turn off?
[05:13] <nug700> Yes.. unistall 11.10.. install 10.10.. like I'm about to do.....
[05:13] <holstein> dwade09_: try firing up something like cheese and see it its working
[05:14] <escott> dwade09_, often those camera drivers can get confused and the camera is activated but nothing is trying to read the stream. have you tried rebooting
[05:14] <holstein> nug700: you think its a kernel regression?
[05:14] <dwade09_> escott:  i did reboot
[05:14] <escott> dwade09_, cold or warm?
[05:14] <dwade09_> escott: ?
[05:15] <holstein> dwade09_: all the way off
[05:15] <escott> dwade09_, cold restart = full power off
[05:15] <nug700> IDK.. I've just seen more glitches in the past 2 days with it.. than any other operating system in 6 months
[05:15] <dwade09_> yes escott  all the way off
[05:15] <nomasl> Do you see your GF at her home or your home?
[05:15] <escott> !ops
[05:15] <escott> bazhang, thanks
[05:16] <tomreyn> dwade09_: was the light on immediately after reboot?
[05:16] <dwade09_> tomreyn: it was on during install and yes
[05:16] <nug700> I'm going to repost my question...
[05:17] <tomreyn> dwade09_: try identifying the driver and unloading it
[05:17] <nug700> [22:04:22] <nug700> my second monitor is responding now.. at last... but it's all white, and I can't drag any programs to it... I can bring my mouse to it though  [22:10:32] <nug700>
[05:17] <nug700> [22:04:50] <nug700> oh.. and I get this error in terminal: http://pastebin.com/HRmeEjs2
[05:17] <dwade09_> also i have win 7 installed along side it, how do i access the files on the win 7 side?
[05:17] <tomreyn> dwade09_: start with lsusb. most webcams are listed there
[05:17] <dwade09_> with read/write?
[05:17] <escott> nug700, i suspect the terminal errors are unrelated. more likely your config is such that there is no window manager handling the second display
[05:18] <escott> !ntfs-3g | dwade09_
[05:18] <nug700> how would I fix that?
[05:19] <escott> dwade09_, usually its installed already and you can just double click on the windows drive in your file manager
[05:19] <tomreyn> dwade09_: the best option is: don't. windows doesn't understand ext3/ext4 natively, and while there are ways to make it work (via freeofte) i would not recommend it.
[05:19] <tomreyn> escott: i think he wants it the other way round
[05:19] <bascotie> Question: I have a file and I want to give it permissions so ANYONE can change/copy/etc. Right now I have ownership and I can't even copy it to my ftp folder on Ubuntu 11.10. How would I do this please?
[05:19] <dwade09_> tomreyn:  i need to, my windows side wont boot anymore and i need files
[05:19] <Guest64104> 大家好
[05:19] <tomreyn> escott: okay you win
[05:20] <urfr332g0> !cn | Guest64104
[05:20] <tomreyn> dwade09_: accessing the windows files from linux should work
[05:20] <nug700> excott: how would I fix it?
[05:20] <zelozelos> bascotie, try making an archive with it, probably will work the easiest
[05:20] <tomreyn> do as escott said
[05:20] <escott> bascotie, chmod o+rw filename
[05:20] <bascotie> I can copy from Windows 7 to my Samba Share on Ubuntu but can't copy FROM Ubuntu to Windows 7
[05:21] <dwade09_> ah sweet, thanks escott  and tomreyn  now to figure out how to get this web cam light off its bugging me
[05:21] <escott> nug700, have you logged out and back in?
[05:21] <lowercaseletters> hey
[05:21] <Olya> hey
[05:21] <escott> dwade09_, lsmod | grep vid and then try and rmmod the relevant drivers
[05:21] <nug700> Yes. after i enabled my second display. after which brought me to the current state
[05:21] <Olya> Hi all!
[05:22] <Olya> HELP PLEASE!!!
[05:22] <Ben64> !enter | Olya
[05:22] <Olya> Who work with ext3grep?
[05:22] <lowercaseletters> in 11.10, why does the dashboard show up BEHIND the windows, yet the clickable areas (buttons) are infront of the windows
[05:22] <superdave321> !ask | Olya
[05:22] <Olya> Who work with ext3grep?
[05:22] <Olya> Who use it?
[05:23] <Olya> Help please!
[05:23] <Olya> heeey!
[05:23] <nug700> I'm going to try rebooting again..
[05:23] <Ben64> Olya: stop using so many lines!
[05:23] <Olya> you where?
[05:23] <superdave321> !patience | Olya
[05:23] <dwade09_> escott:  i have under that uvcvideo 67271 0 videodev 85626 1 uvcvideo then video 18908 1 i915
[05:23] <Olya> ok
[05:23] <escott> nug700, it could be a xinerama issue, but nvidia support for that is ehh
[05:23] <Olya> Who work with ext3grep? -------------- Question
[05:23] <bazhang> Olya, whats the real question. stop using the enter key so much
[05:23] <bascotie> I'll try the forums some more, thanks guys
[05:23] <Olya> i need help with it prog
[05:23] <escott> dwade09_, sudo rmmod uvcvideo
[05:23] <Olya> oh ok
[05:23] <Olya> now
[05:24] <escott> dwade09_, and save files before removing modules always the possiblility of a panic
[05:24] <Olya> How recover files?
[05:24] <nug700> than.. what should I do... I own product in a very common line of cards... there must be a solution
[05:24] <dwade09_> escott:  done.
[05:24] <dwade09_> do i reboot?
[05:24] <superdave321> Olya: you're not making much sense, and you're way over zealous.... chill.
[05:24] <escott> dwade09_, no if it worked the light would have already gone off
[05:25] <dwade09_> it did not work escott
[05:25] <bazhang> !undelete | Olya
[05:25] <escott> dwade09_, you could blacklist the module in /etc
[05:25] <escott> dwade09_, maybe if its never loaded the hardware will never be turned on
[05:25] <BrandonBolton> Okay, everyone, I am back. I couldn't get ndiswrapper to work with the 10.04.3 installation I have and the driver I downloaded.
[05:26] <dwade09_> escott:  can you whisper me the directions to blacklist it?
[05:26] <Olya> i used program ext3grep for undelite my files. It prog make folder and 2 files: (1) sdb5.ext3grep.stage1 (2) sdb5.ext3grep.stage2 But folder is empty. Where my files?
[05:27] <escott> dwade09_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[05:27] <Olya> Ubuntu 11.10
[05:27] <Olya> Help Please!
[05:27] <escott> dwade09_, and run the update-initramfs step at the end
[05:27] <superdave321> Olya: CHILL OUT!
[05:27] <nug700> I really don't see the point of why they made 11... it's so much harder to use all around... navigation, installation, etc.. the only thing better about it, is the ubuntu software center -_-
[05:28] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: what hardware do you have there anyway?
[05:28] <dwade09_> i will try that escott  if it doesnt work i wil just put black tape over it.
[05:28] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to reload hte intel video drivers without a reboot? when i switch in and out of fullscreen mode, windows start to drag around all jaggedly
[05:28] <Olya> ????
[05:28] <Olya> why chil out?
[05:28] <Olya> Help me please!
[05:28] <BrandonBolton> tomreyn, I have an Linksys AE1000 on a Dell Inspirion 518.
[05:28] <dwade09_> escott:  i am seeing my windows files but it seems like a few files in one of my folders is missing/not showing up
[05:28] <escott> !patience | Olya
[05:28] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: and do you want LTS or why did you install 10.04?
[05:28] <superdave321> !enter > Olya
[05:29] <superdave321> !patience > Olya
[05:29] <Olya> i used program ext3grep for undelite my files. It prog make folder and 2 files: (1) sdb5.ext3grep.stage1 (2) sdb5.ext3grep.stage2 But folder is empty. Where my files?
[05:29] <BrandonBolton> tomreyn, I installed the LTS version with 64bit.
[05:29] <Olya> And?
[05:30] <escott> Olya, we don't know. If we did we would answer your question.
[05:30] <Olya> Where recovered files?
[05:30] <dwade09_> escott:  here is the big question, i have a blackberry 9300 curve, any way when i hook it to my laptop it will let me trade files from the blackberry to the laptop and vise versa?
[05:30] <Olya> ok do it please i wait
[05:30] <escott> dwade09_, no idea.
[05:31] <Olya> And me?
[05:31] <dwade09_> escott:  nvm it works fine
[05:31] <bazhang> Olya, I gave you some links to read. please read them.
[05:31] <bazhang> !undelete | Olya here they are please read them and be patient
[05:31] <Olya> On other services need register and where no Not go away me here please!
[05:32] <Olya> I read it!
[05:32] <bazhang> Olya, Please read the links.
[05:32] <Olya> Where files?
[05:32] <Olya> i was
[05:32] <Olya> read is final
[05:32] <bazhang> Olya, asking every two seconds will NOT get you a faster answer
[05:32] <holstein> Olya: we are all volunteers here... thats why your patients is appreciated :)
[05:33] <holstein> patience*
[05:33] <Olya> ok thx!
[05:33] <Olya> and help me please!
[05:33] <bazhang> !helpme | Olya
[05:34] <BrandonBolton> Olya, the Recovery Article tells you step-by-step how to recover your data. I had to do that very article and it worked perfectly. Just follow it step-by-step and you will be fine.
[05:34] <bazhang> Olya, try again in about 15 minutes. stop repeating every two seconds
[05:34] <Olya> what?
[05:35] <mroon> is there a GUI for configuring/autoconfiguring wvdial?
[05:35] <escott> bazhang, I wonder if he would be better off kicked over to !ru
[05:35] <Olya> ok i go to help ubuntu tutorial
[05:35] <Flynsarmy> is it even possible in linux to restart graphics drivers without a reboot? don't want to close all my open windows
[05:35] <Olya> ok i here and i read tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:35] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: while this doesn't help now, and you probably don't want to hear this: this was a bad purchase. make sure you check what's well supported before you buy. it's still a good idea, since some manufacturers still don't provide good linux support, apparently they don't care enough to provide a good product to their customers.
[05:35] <escott> Flynsarmy, you would have to close all the programs to do that because X would die badly without the drivers
[05:36] <Flynsarmy> escott: hmm. k, thanks
[05:36] <Olya> where my question in tutorial?
[05:36] <OffGridOps> 11.10:  Oddity to note don't know where to post.  When trying to upload files on Gmail w/Ubuntu Firefox works perfect but Chrome drops each time on .zip
[05:37] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: now if you're into compiling software you can try http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=256962 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwMiHiaWtPI
[05:37] <mcurran> Is there a way to undo a nano edit you just did to a file?
[05:37] <escott> mcurran, usually no. if this is in /etc you might want to install and use etckeeper
[05:38] <Olya> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:38] <BrandonBolton> tomreyn, I did make a bad choice with buying the Linksys wireless adapter. I did have it working before. I will just reinstall to 11.10 if I can't get it to work. Thank you for the help. I will try this all in the morning, it is rather late now.
[05:38] <superdave321> Alright, who votes we call the ops on Olya?
[05:38] <bazhang> Olya, stop that
[05:38] <mcurran> yeah it was, it was my sites-enabled file for apache2, and I tried reinstalling apache2 but it says it can't be downloaded
[05:38] <BrandonBolton> superdave321, go for it. :)
[05:38] <Olya> you not help :(
[05:38] <superdave321> !ops | Olya
[05:38] <Olya> http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html very hard
[05:38] <bazhang> Olya, read the links, try again in about 15 minutes
[05:38] <bazhang> superdave321, hello?
[05:39] <Olya> hello!
[05:39] <bazhang> that was hardly necessary superdave321
[05:39] <superdave321> Can't you kick him?
[05:39] <anthrofeare> can someone in here help me with an issue? im new to ubuntu and linux commands. its probably a real quick fix
[05:39] <bazhang> anthrofeare, ask the channel and see
[05:39] <Olya> And what me?
[05:39] <bobweaver> anthrofeare: whats up ?
[05:40] <Flynsarmy> !ask | anthrofeare
[05:40] <Ben64> Olya: there are 1383 people in here besides you, you have to wait just like everyone else
[05:40] <tomreyn> BrandonBolton: cool, have a good night.
[05:41] <hiexpo> Olya, nobody is ignoring you relax take a valium smoke a dub or something as soon as someone knows they well help you be patient
[05:41] <anthrofeare> ok. if you wanna check out this forum link which explains the issue. scroll down to one of the last posts which explains the fix... now i got through both of the sudo commands which fixed my wireless issue, now idont really understand the last part... "To make the change permanent: gsku gedit /etc/modprobe.d/iwl.conf  Copy/paste this line into the new file: options iwlagn bt_coex_active=0  Save. Quit."
[05:41] <anthrofeare> link to forumhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/876147
[05:42] <mcurran> I just noticed that usually when an apt/dpkg file says it can't be downloaded, it's because you used another source for it, so I just enabled my partner and ubuntu main repos and fixed, phew!
[05:42] <anthrofeare> i just dont understand the last part
[05:42] <Olya> HEEEEELP PLEEEASEEEE!!!!
[05:43] <hiexpo> hey whats the dif betwenn 10.04 and10.04.3
[05:43] <tomreyn> anthrofeare: you have a terminal window open already?
[05:43] <hiexpo> Olya, whats your problem repost it
[05:43] <anthrofeare> one sec
[05:43] <almoxarife> .003?
[05:43] <Olya> how recover files
[05:43] <anthrofeare> now i do
[05:44] <Olya> by ext3grep please?
[05:44] <tomreyn> anthrofeare: once you have, you write this: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/iwl.conf
[05:44] <Olya> http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[05:44] <hiexpo> Olya, what files something you deletedexplain the issue in detail
[05:44] <Olya> im not undestand how :(
[05:44] <somsip> wondrous stories lyrics
[05:44] <tomreyn> anthrofeare: this should open the gedit text editor and it should be an empty file, i.e. no text is displayed, right?
[05:45] <Olya> i delited my folder with 50 GB files (((
[05:45] <hiexpo> Olya, what files did you delete something you want to recover?
[05:45] <anthrofeare> it opens the text window but "options iwlagn bt_coex_active=0 is in it
[05:46] <theadmin> Olya: Any chance it's still in the trash?
[05:46] <tomreyn> anthrofeare: so you seem to have done this already, or its a default setting.
[05:46] <Olya> i wont recover all files
[05:46] <Olya> many files
[05:46] <hiexpo> theadmin, was just gonna say
[05:46] <Olya> flv mp3 txt doc , .....
[05:46] <Olya> no in trash
[05:46] <Olya> rm -Rf *
[05:47] <mcurran> I used gpg -c to password protect a single text file, and f'd up my whole system.  Now I don't have permisson to run most scripts I created or anything.  Is there any ideas?
[05:47] <Olya> :(
[05:47] <hiexpo> uh oh
[05:47] <theadmin> Olya: Try using Photorec (is a part of testdisk package), it can recover most of those filetypes.
[05:47] <Olya> no
[05:47] <mcurran> I tried deleting the file, and it was deleted, but still have the problem
[05:47] <Olya> i wont normal names and catalog directory tree
[05:47] <anthrofeare> so if that is in there... then it should be fine? i hit save and it says "(gedit:2099): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory"
[05:47] <theadmin> anthrofeare: That's okay lol
[05:48] <hiexpo> guymager
[05:48] <Olya> How use it help please http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[05:48] <Olya> it must recover all files and folders
[05:48] <anthrofeare> ok so im good then? lol
[05:48] <anthrofeare> sorry
[05:48] <theadmin> Olya: Not possible to have "normal" names and directory tree... it's not possible, they're not stored anywhere
[05:49] <tomreyn> mcurran: copy whatever you need to a working system, fix up the file / directory permissions and ownership and run it there.
[05:49] <Olya> u can read about ext3grep
[05:49] <urfr332g0> theadmin, can I pm you
[05:49] <Olya> its posseble
[05:49] <Olya> can recover names
[05:49] <theadmin> urfr332g0: ...Who are you? Why?
[05:49] <hiexpo> Olya, use guymager  maybe you get lucky the more you talk on here the less chance you have as rewriting the disc
[05:49] <anthrofeare> thanks guys
[05:49] <tomreyn> anthrofeare: you can ignore this message. and yes, you should be set. you can reboot and see if it works
[05:50] <anthrofeare> ok imma reboot and let you guys know how it goes. Thanks
[05:50] <urfr332g0> theadmin, we have talked before in a pm at your request with another nic it is a friendly request. :)
[05:50] <Olya> i not need image
[05:50] <Olya> i wont recover files
[05:51] <theadmin> Olya: Please go to #ubuntu-ru for Russian support. You're hardly making sense.
[05:51] <mcurran> I got it, just apache2 doesn't install to /etc/ anymore /usr/share/ which is weird.  I'm gonna try to compile the source instead.  Or maybe work with the metasploit copy
[05:51] <Olya> no
[05:51] <Olya> they not know
[05:51] <Olya> how use it simply? http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[05:52] <bobweaver> Olya:  um... foremost
[05:52] <bobweaver> the tiem
[05:52] <anthrofeare> Everythings good guys
[05:52] <anthrofeare> thanks
[05:52] <Olya> what?
[05:53] <bobweaver> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery you have lloked ?
[05:53] <Olya> i can 2 files now what next step?
[05:53] <theadmin> Olya: Foremost is another recovery software. ext3grep you're suggesting will hardly work for you, it's too professional (you need a disk image, an inode number...)
[05:53] <anthrofeare> Another question i dont even know if this works yet lol. i have an hdmi out on my laptop. will this work?
[05:54] <dr_willis> anthrofeare:  mine does
[05:54] <theadmin> anthrofeare: Most of the time yes... though depends on your GPU and such
[05:54] <anthrofeare> got ya
[05:54] <hiexpo> Olya, I told you how > I am a pen tester so never mindyou just keep saying no > so I say NO
[05:54] <anthrofeare> ubuntu is pretty sweet. have to say. this is my first hour ever using it but i like it. any tips or tricks i should know about?
[05:55] <eiriksvin>  hey, all I got a question, I like Ubuntu, but I'm looking for the best overall Linux distro for my Laptop, is there any ideas?
[05:55] <theadmin> eiriksvin: There's no "best", also you're not supposed to take polls here. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic , #defocus or ##linux
[05:55] <hiexpo> !best
[05:55] <Olya> u me?
[05:56] <Synthesetic> What is one of the most active channels on freenode?
[05:56] <dr_willis> anthrofeare:  check the webupd8 blog site for tweaking guides
[05:56] <Olya> in file adress with 10000 files
[05:57] <Olya> Please Help!
[05:57] <Olya> #ubuntu-ru
[05:57] <dr_willis> Olya: clarify the problem
[05:57] <hiexpo> dr_willis, she did a rm-rf
[05:58] <Olya> its just stupid!!!
[05:58] <dr_willis> time to learn the value of backups...
[05:58] <Olya> Why no normal prog for recover files on Linux!??!?!
[05:59] <hiexpo> dr_willis, deleted like a lot heh
[05:59] <Mike9863> When I plug in headphones or speakers into my headphone port, the led light on my laptops mute key turns on. Is there any way to fix this?
[05:59] <theadmin> Olya: There's a TON of software which does that, you're refusing to try any we suggest though
[05:59] <silv3r_m00n> I have some items in trash that are not going away , ho can I remove them from terminal ?
[05:59] <theadmin> !trash | silv3r_m00n
[05:59] <Olya> what?!!?
[05:59] <Olya> testdisk not work
[06:00] <Olya> picrec bad not recover names
[06:00] <Olya> ext3grep hard
[06:00] <dr_willis> you may have to fix the names
[06:00] <theadmin> Olya: It's not POSSIBLE to recover filenames, NOTHING will do that. It's possible in Windows because NTFS is plain stupid and doesn't delete files properly, so?
[06:00]  * theadmin is tired of repeating herself
[06:01] <eiriksvin> OK, then since I got the run around, let me tell you I would still be using Ubuntu except it won't recognise 90% of the hardware I have, thats not a suggestion, thats a fact! So until you poeple stop making Ubuntu look pretty and start focusing on functionality it will always be just a novelty
[06:01] <Olya> You not undestand me?
[06:01] <eiriksvin> get it fixed
[06:01] <Olya> I have names in it file! and adress too!
[06:01] <bobweaver> who you calling "you people "  :>)
[06:02] <urfr332g0> eiriksvin, thanks for the heads up. :)
[06:02] <dr_willis> eiriksvin:  the hardware makers need to support Linux.  many don't even try
[06:02] <ponrajuganesh> how many ways one could add the jar file to the class path
[06:02] <hiexpo> Olya, it will not recover your file names
[06:02] <_monk_> his inteligence is lolw
[06:02] <_monk_> *low
[06:02] <theadmin> Olya: Yes, it's hardly possible to understand what you say. Filenames are impossible to recover. How more clear can I make that?
[06:02] <ponrajuganesh> CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/usr/share/java/mysql.jar is one way? is there any other ways one could do thsi?
[06:03] <Olya> sdb5.ext3grep.stage2 in it file all names!!!
[06:03] <Olya> and degrees
[06:03] <Olya> adress
[06:03] <Olya> and names
[06:04] <dr_willis> we have no idea what you mean Olya
[06:04] <Olya> http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[06:04] <Olya> do it!
[06:04] <Olya> ok now
[06:04] <hiexpo> maybe try DFF
[06:04] <Olya> sudo ext3grep /dev/sdb5 --restore-file name_of_folder
[06:04] <Olya> ok?
[06:04] <Olya> test
[06:04] <Olya> please
[06:05] <unlce_rom> can i load / to a ramdisk?
[06:05] <hiexpo> !spoonfeed
[06:05] <bobweaver> Olya:  why dont you make a test box to ply with your self on it
[06:05] <bobweaver> like a virtual sandbox
[06:05] <damo22> Olya: if you want to maximise your chances of recovery, unmount the drive and only mount it read only
[06:05] <dr_willis> unlce_rom: seen that in some Mini distros
[06:06] <eiriksvin> WRONG it's not up to the hardware makers, if you go to any local American Chain store, and buy a laptop theres bound to be stuff thats not going to be recognised... The poeple that make Ubuntu seem to do fine with an expensive brand, but no normal human is going to buy a laptop... BTW it's not upto hardware companies to support Linux, it's up to linux to find a way to work with whatys available, thats why it FAILS
[06:06] <Olya> im not use him
[06:06] <Olya> thx
[06:06] <unlce_rom> well i have ram disk made- i can load different stuuff to it. figured id ask b4 trying though
[06:06] <Olya> u test command?
[06:06] <Olya> sudo ext3grep /dev/sdb5 --restore-file name_of_folder
[06:06] <Olya> please
[06:06] <dr_willis> eiriksvin: you are wrong.
[06:07] <hiexpo> Olya, you understand that command
[06:07] <Olya> sure
[06:07] <Olya> but it not recover my files but it make 2 files
[06:07] <Olya> one file with names
[06:08] <Olya> why second step?
[06:08] <Olya> who
[06:08] <Olya> You can test it please?
[06:08] <dr_willis> how are we supposed to rest it Olya
[06:08] <dr_willis> test. .
[06:09] <bobweaver> !ot eirand why not find ?
[06:09] <hiexpo> Olya, maybe get backtrack iso and boot forensic
[06:09] <Olya> sudo ext3grep /dev/sdb5 --restore-file name_of_folder
[06:09] <bobweaver> why not find ?
[06:09] <theadmin> dr_willis: She wants us to delete some files and recover them with this tool I guess...
[06:09] <Olya> do it please
[06:09] <pangolin> Olya: stop pasting that command in here, we can not test it.
[06:09] <damo22> Olya: is /dev/sdb5 the partition you need to recover from?
[06:09] <Olya> inot have space for image
[06:10] <bobweaver> Olya:  please do not tell others to try out code that you are not uaing
[06:10] <bobweaver> that is messed up
[06:10] <bobweaver> test in a sandbox
[06:10] <Olya> i use it!!
[06:10] <bobweaver> before you tell anyone to put scriping code ointo there box. that is rude and careless
[06:11] <Olya> and now u too pleae
[06:11] <Olya> sudo ext3grep /dev/sdb5 --restore-file name_of_folder
[06:11] <bobweaver> before you tell anyone to put scriping code ointo there box. that is rude and careless
[06:11] <rabbi1> my ubuntu corrupted, saying can;t load X., how to recover it ?
[06:11] <Olya> no sdb5
[06:11] <damo22> OLYA: UNMOUNT YOUR PARTITON ASAP
[06:11] <pangolin> bobweaver: relax please, there is obviously a language barrier, if you don't or can't help just ignore it.
[06:11] <bobweaver> pangolin: cool
[06:11] <rabbi1> able to login from shell
[06:11] <Olya> Instead, your drive
[06:12] <Olya> demo sure i was it
[06:12] <rabbi1> my ubuntu corrupted, saying can;t load X., how can i recover my X?
[06:13] <dr_willis> that command wouldent work on my cellphone anyway ;)
[06:13] <damo22> Olya: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[06:13] <Olya> ?
[06:14] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  you could start by pastbining the error mesages from 'startx'  and/or the xorg log giles
[06:14] <dr_willis> files
[06:14] <Olya> i not have pastebin
[06:14] <dr_willis> install it.. or cut/paste it to the pastebin site.
[06:15] <damo22> Olya: do you know which partition has all the deleted files?
[06:15] <rabbi1> dr_willis: thats a different laptop, not which i am using it
[06:15] <hiexpo> command | pastebinit
[06:15] <rabbi1> dr_willis: unable to get to UI only, just command prompt
[06:15] <Olya> sure
[06:15] <Olya> sdb5
[06:15] <rabbi1> i don't even know the version :(
[06:15] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  and error messages from 'startx' and the xorg log files may help
[06:16] <damo22> Olya: sudo umount /dev/sdb5
[06:16] <hiexpo> Olya, how much info you lose?
[06:16] <Olya> second hardware 5 partition
[06:16] <rabbi1> dr_willis: ok, will try to do that. how can i copy the files to pendrive from this situation ?
[06:16] <Olya> damo i was do it many minutes to ago
[06:16] <piliakis> hello
[06:16] <Olya> acompleted it sure
[06:17] <piliakis> Someone from the office messed up with cups before
[06:17] <Olya> no many info 50 Gb
[06:17] <rabbi1> piliakis: got to keep the cups in shelf .....
[06:17] <rabbi1> lol
[06:17] <Olya> but it is important
[06:17] <piliakis> and now I cannot see the option to add local printers (LPT, Serial or USB) in Printing and system does not detect new connected USB printer
[06:17] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  you can use the pastebinit command from console, or just paste them to a text file to copy them over.
[06:17] <piliakis> its Ubuntu 11.10
[06:18] <damo22> Olya: ok, so you lost 50Gb of small files?
[06:18] <rabbi1> dr_willis: ok, how can i copy it in pendrive ...?
[06:18] <rabbi1> its not detecting the pendrive
[06:18] <Olya> damo not only small
[06:18] <piliakis> any idea how to fix that?
[06:18] <dr_willis> piliakis:  try the cups web interface. Its possible the printer is not seen./supported or needs extra drivers.  Checked the cups.org and linuxprinting.org site to see if its supported
[06:19] <Olya> but small too
[06:19] <piliakis> I reinstalled all cups packages
[06:19] <Olya> ext3grep is good prog but how use? :(
[06:19] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  mount the pendrive, copy files over. or see if you can get connected to the internet via the cli
[06:19] <piliakis> it was detected before that idiot messed up cups :(
[06:19] <damo22> Olya: how big is /dev/sdb5
[06:19] <rabbi1> dr_willis: trying, btb
[06:19] <rabbi1> *brb
[06:19] <Olya> ~105 Gb
[06:20] <dr_willis> bbl. got a job.
[06:20] <Olya> or 100...
[06:20] <hiexpo> excuse me ubuntu < > Olya I am a penetration tester and a forensic annalist > I can recover files for you but I charge 100 american dollars per gig > but I only charge per what I recover
[06:20] <damo22> Olya: do you have 105Gb spare space to create a disk image
[06:20] <Olya> nonono
[06:20] <Olya> not have
[06:20] <Olya> and i not need in it
[06:21] <damo22> Olya: then you are screwed
[06:21] <Olya> in image
[06:21] <Olya> what sorry?
[06:22] <damo22> Olya: where do you expect the files to go once recovered??
[06:22] <damo22> Olya: you cant mount the partition and put them in place
[06:22] <damo22> Olya: you need spare space
[06:22] <damo22> Olya: enough to hold the whole partition
[06:22] <Olya> i have 50 Gb
[06:23] <Olya> >50 Gb space
[06:23] <Olya> for recovered files
[06:23] <damo22> Olya: where
[06:23] <Olya> sdb7
[06:24] <Olya> 234 free GB on sdb7
[06:24] <damo22> Olya: ext3grep only works on an image i think
[06:25] <Olya> :(
[06:26] <damo22> Olya: we can copy the whole partition /dev/sdb5 to a file on /dev/sdb7 and recover
[06:26] <Olya> sure
[06:27] <Olya> but why it not work without image?
[06:27] <damo22> Olya: its safer not to touch the actual partition
[06:27] <Olya> and why chromiu use 100 persent of CPU?
[06:27] <pangolin> Olya: what is important is to recover the files correct?
[06:28] <hiexpo> wow
[06:28] <Olya> yes
[06:28] <pangolin> Olya: focus on that for now, the method used is not important as long as you achieve the goal.
[06:28] <Olya> damo sorry what?
[06:28] <hiexpo> idleone ok
[06:28] <Olya> damo i cant use it?
[06:28] <damo22> Olya: i need a directory name on /dev/sdb7 that i can use
[06:28] <pangolin> yeah, i get highlights for that nick also
[06:28] <Olya> pan thx
[06:29] <Olya> u need name of my delited directory?
[06:29] <damo22> Olya can you create a directory to store the recovered files and the whole partition
[06:29] <prateekp> can i access my D:/ files from the terminal
[06:29] <prateekp> if so then how
[06:29] <damo22> on /dev/sdb7
[06:29] <Olya> np
[06:29] <pangolin> damo22: perhaps if you could help him in PM so there is less distractions :)
[06:30] <Olya> sure i can
[06:30] <damo22> ok
[06:30] <prateekp> how
[06:31] <hiexpo> hmm
[06:33]  * hiexpo is back to pentoo & backtrack > aircrack-ng  and will not give advice in that nature  here again 
[06:34] <Syria> !restpanels
[06:34] <Syria> !restpanel
[06:35] <Syria> Hmm..
[06:36] <theadmin> !resetpanels | Syria
[06:37] <North> with what terminal command, can I have the previlege to write on HDD primary?
[06:37] <Syria> theadmin: Thank you. :)
[06:38] <geekback> hello ubuntuers
[06:38] <geekback> whats going on
[06:38] <North> geekback:  with what terminal command, can I have the previlege to write on HDD primary?
[06:38] <theadmin> North: Don't ask random people
[06:38] <theadmin> North: Also your question makes no sense -- rephrase
[06:39] <North> theadmin: Well, I cannot write anything on user folder. what do I need to check?
[06:40] <theadmin> North: By "user folder" do you mean your home folder?
[06:40] <North> theadmin: yes
[06:41] <Slicks> oo.
[06:41] <Slicks> yoo
[06:41] <Slicks> anyone here?
[06:41] <theadmin> North: Hm... sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME && sudo chmod 755 $HOME && sudo chmod -R 644 $HOME/*
[06:41] <theadmin> North: Should do the trick
[06:41] <Slicks> Theadmin.
[06:41] <geekback> hello Slicks
[06:41] <Slicks> Do you know what the dosing termnial is called?
[06:41] <North> theadmin:  thanks, let me try
[06:41] <Slicks> I cant find it.
[06:41] <Slicks> I found it once.
[06:42] <Slicks> Geek?
[06:42] <theadmin> Slicks: dosing terminal?
[06:42] <Slicks> Like,.
[06:42] <Slicks> I found it somewhere in pent test.
[06:42] <Slicks> And I forgot what it was called.
[06:43] <Slicks> to perform a dos on a target.
[06:43] <North> theadmin: it seems like one of phrase has the syntax error. sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME && sudo chmod 755 $HOME && sudo chmod -R 644 $HOME/*
[06:43] <theadmin> North: All those look correct. you sure you using bash and are currently logged in as the user you want to run the chmod for?
[06:43] <North> theadmin: let me try again.
[06:43] <theadmin> Oh, derp, can't log in without owning the home directory
[06:44] <tomreyn> Slicks: do you mean this? :(){ :|:& };:
[06:44] <bobweaver> tomreyn: that is a fork bomb I thought ?
[06:44] <theadmin> North: Do something like this: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /path/to/home/folder && sudo chmod -R 755 /path/to/home/folder
[06:44] <Slicks> A bunch of smileys?
[06:44] <Slicks> o,0?
[06:44] <tomreyn> bobweaver: yeah you can DoS a target with it
[06:45] <tomreyn> a single target
[06:45] <theadmin> tomreyn: That's not really a DOS attack in the sense it's not done over network (well, unless you have ssh access)
[06:45] <theadmin> tomreyn: Also, don't scream dangerous commands here
[06:45] <tomreyn> theadmin: who says DoS attacks need to be run over a network?
[06:45] <theadmin> s/scream/say/gi; # whatever lol
[06:46] <tomreyn> :)
[06:47] <North> theadmin: my terminal prompt looks like "ram@ram-desktop:~$"
[06:47] <North> theadmin: I cannot go with your first command.
[06:48] <theadmin> North: wait a bit, phone
[06:49] <North> theadmin: Error message is   chown: cannot access `/home/ram/.gvfs': Permission denied
[06:49] <theadmin> North: There. Anyhoo, try the second one, it's more exact
[06:49] <theadmin> North: Ah, .gvfs... Don't mind that
[06:49] <theadmin> North: That's sort of supposed to happen lol
[06:50] <North> theadmin: ram@ram-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 755
[06:50] <North> chmod: missing operand after `755'
[06:50] <North> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[06:50] <darkorical> so I was attempting to set up calibre as a server for ebooks and now when my server loads it fails to start calibre and then goes out of memory and starts shutting down other processes how do I tell it to stop trying to start something that is in init.d I tried booting to revoerery and using rm on the startup file but was told it was read only
[06:51] <theadmin> North: Don't mind it, it seemed to have worked
[06:51] <theadmin> North: Try to access the directory again?
[06:53] <North> theadmin: the access is denied!!
[06:53] <theadmin> North: Hm ok. Sorry, try the second command: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /path/to/home/folder && sudo chmod -R 755 /path/to/home/folder # Replace "USERNAME" with your username and "/path/to/home/folder" with the actual path
[06:59] <karthick87> How to disable all updates in ubuntu from terminal?
[07:00] <bodoh> hoi ... why ubuntu is so fucked up now?
[07:00] <theadmin> karthick87: Just don't update
[07:00] <bodoh> ok ... cant blame ubuntu 100% though
[07:00] <bodoh> like that stoopid gnome shit is not ubuntu's fault
[07:00] <tomreyn> darkorical: better analyse the problem before you start shooting helpless services. find out what's using all the memory and maybe uninstall calibre if it causes trouble.
[07:00] <pangolin> !language | bodoh
[07:01] <theadmin> bodoh: Yeah, it's not, well. They had to figure something out. Don't like - switch
[07:01] <bodoh> but still though ... ufucktu gets so bated
[07:01] <bodoh> I switch already
[07:01] <bodoh> linux mint
[07:01] <bodoh> but still ubunshit derivative
[07:01] <theadmin> bodoh: Use Mint Debian or whatever and don't blame Ubuntu. You're in a support channel.
[07:02] <gimlab> -8​trt3vfbg=
[07:02] <gimlab> -8​trt3vfbg7472744
[07:02] <gimlab> ]
[07:02] <gimlab> \
[07:02] <gimlab> \
[07:02] <FloodBot1> gimlab: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <tomreyn> karthick87: disabling all updates isn't a good idea security-wise though, i wouldn't recommend it.
[07:06] <darkorical> I cant get the machine to boot it starts up then after failing at loading calibre it goes into continous [###.#######] Out of memory: kill process #### (****) score 1 or sacrifice child
[07:06] <darkorical> Im assuming it doesnt really want me to kill my kids ......
[07:06] <pangolin> heh
[07:07] <non> http://www.facebook.com/nonmaddenrock
[07:07] <non> sry
[07:08] <non> hello
[07:08] <dr_willis> calibre is an ebook converter program i thought, The system dosent boot to the desktop? or crashes soon after? or is there a differnt calibre :)
[07:09] <darkorical> Im using a server install
[07:09] <beparas> Hi all, I want to connect to internet using my D-Link, DWM-156 usb modem, I did usb_modeswich, I get ttyUSB0-2 port, When I try to connect using "pppd" command I got error "NO CARRIER, Connect seript filed",  But I can connect to internet using NetWork Manger Applet, I want to where I am doing wrong..
[07:10] <darkorical> while it can do the conversion im only interested in it running an opds library
[07:10] <tomreyn> darkorical: are you next to this server, or is it remote?
[07:10] <Feymood> I'm trying to launch all of my startup programs in different screen windows of the SAME session. I'd like to connect to that session at any time and Ctrl-a 1,2,3,etc to see the status of a given program.
[07:10] <dark|angel> http://toratek.net/vps-plans/
[07:11] <darkorical> next to it
[07:11] <tomreyn> dark|angel: whats this url for now?
[07:11] <dr_willis> You mean run each app on its own v'desktop'   you switch to with that 'desktops' icon in the panel?
[07:11] <darkorical> <-- that is what my error looks like tho mine is happening during boot
[07:12] <darkorical> http://drupal.org/node/1080774  <-- that link
[07:12] <darkorical> it seems to be preventing access to the machine
[07:12] <tomreyn> darkorical: you can hold down the shift key while booting it and use the recovery mode
[07:13] <dark|angel> tomreyn ubuntu vps servers
[07:13] <tomreyn> dark|angel: and you sell those or?
[07:13] <AirborneCalavry> hi can anyone help me?
[07:13] <AirborneCalavry> im new to Ubuntu
[07:13] <dr_willis> state the problem AirborneCalavry
[07:13] <claudia> Hi, I got this windows software that I successfully installed with Wine, but the software is in Chinese (Simplified) and when I open the program all I can see are little cubes... how can I make Ubuntu display the characters?
[07:13] <dark|angel> tomreyn I'm not, I actually wanted to ask if anyone has used them before
[07:13] <AirborneCalavry> ok i will give you the error message
[07:13] <dark|angel> prices look decent
[07:13] <darkorical> I am assuming that it is the machine trying to start calibre and calibre-server in init.d but when going in in recovery mode I cannot delete the files as the system is in read only mode .. is there another way to turn them off?
[07:14] <tbf> hi, someone remembers the hidden key for removing your own name from the top panel?
[07:14] <AirborneCalavry> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[07:14] <AirborneCalavry> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[07:14] <AirborneCalavry> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[07:14] <tbf> i remember my name and therefore do not really appreciate the visual clutter it causes
[07:15] <AirborneCalavry> hello?
[07:15] <tomreyn> darkorical: what makes you think recovery puts it into read only mode? it doesn't
[07:16] <AirborneCalavry> Dr_Will?
[07:16] <dr_willis> i recall there being a recovery menu - one of them remounted / in rw mode.
[07:16] <dr_willis> it would be weird that a service is locking up the whole system
[07:16] <darkorical> when I rebooted and grub came up I selected recovery mode told it to drop to prompt typed rm ect/init.d/calibre  it replied it could not as it was read-only
[07:17] <dr_willis> AirborneCalavry:  my irc client crashed. I dident see the problem
[07:17] <Ceuse> hey guys :) ubuntu noob with kinda strange question here ^^
[07:18] <Feymood> hit me
[07:18] <AirborneCalavry> sorry people can I grab one person just to talk to?, My Ubuntu being odd i cannot download anything python and i cannot update my OS
[07:18] <AirborneCalavry> sorry ok will
[07:18] <tomreyn> darkorical: sysv-rc-conf and insserv are ways to manage which daemons will be started when during the boot sequence
[07:18] <AirborneCalavry> is it easier to go to another room?
[07:19] <dr_willis> AirborneCalavry:  best to stay in here. I may have to leave at any time.
[07:19] <AirborneCalavry> ok pasting error message again
[07:19] <darkorical> ok if my daemon is called calibre can you give me the correct command to turn  make it not start during boot
[07:19] <AirborneCalavry> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[07:19] <AirborneCalavry> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[07:19] <AirborneCalavry> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[07:19] <Ceuse> i tried to install ubuntu on a old mac mini first gen (kinda hard entry i know) got it working without gui, tried to reinstall mac osx. now the harddrive does not show up in the installation routine. does ubuntu change anything in that direction that i need to do something before i can switch back ^^
[07:19] <Dwade09> ok i have ubuntu 11.10 and when i plug in my headphones the outside speakers still play sound, how do i fix this?
[07:20] <dr_willis> AirborneCalavry: held packagtes - try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:20] <claudia> Please, can someone help me out here?
[07:20] <claudia> Hi, I got this windows software that I successfully installed with Wine, but the software is in Chinese (Simplified) and when I open the program all I can see are little cubes... how can I make Ubuntu display the characters?
[07:20] <damo22> Ceuse: try running disk utility during the install process
[07:21] <Ceuse> mhh any idea how i can start that with mac os install cd? xD im a mac noob aswell :/
[07:21] <cabinet> is there a game to teach to code like Mario Teaches Typing
[07:21] <cabinet> ?*
[07:22] <tomreyn> darkorical: install sysv-rc-conf and run the command of the same name (with sudo), it provides a text-graphical frontend for defining which daemon starts up when (or not at all).
[07:22] <dr_willis> cabinet:  theres those robot-combat games where you program your robots :)
[07:22] <damo22> cabinet: code is not a game
[07:22] <AirborneCalavry> ok willis looks i have encountered a error
[07:22] <dr_willis> !tab
[07:23] <cabinet> dr_wills - will look for this game, thanks
[07:23] <damo22> dr_willis: this is client dependent
[07:25] <Dwade09> ok i have ubuntu 11.10 and when i plug in my headphones the outside speakers still play sound, how do i fix this?
[07:25] <theadmin> Dwade09: Mute the speakers, I honeslty have no idea how to deal with such behaviour. I had this problem too
[07:26] <theadmin> damo22: Any sane client will do it. Hell, even Pidgin does that.
[07:26] <dr_willis> i see similer sound issues in here weekly. The askubuntu.com site or forums i bet have a large thread on the topic.
[07:26] <damo22> theadmin: im on macosx running xchat and it does not autocomplete nicks
[07:26] <Dwade09> theadmin:  how do i mute the speakers?
[07:26] <theadmin> Dwade09: alsamixer or pavucontrol or whatever you want
[07:27] <Dwade09> thanks theadmin  exactly what i was looking for
[07:27] <tomreyn> damo22: it does on linux, though, i just did it
[07:28] <Ceuse> k damo22 works ;) i will join here later today though. i realy want to try ubuntu over mac os (since hell who needs mac os) but without a gui im lost. is it even a good idea to put ubuntu on a mini mac 1st gen? (want to use it as a media station)
[07:28] <tomreyn> damo22: there's an option for it in preferences. you may have that off.
[07:29] <damo22> tomreyn: thanks
[07:30] <Oer> claudia, check winHQ + winetricks  howto add fakechinese fonts
[07:30] <claudia> Hi, I got this windows software that I successfully installed with Wine, but the software is in Chinese (Simplified) and when I open the program all I can see are little cubes... how can I make Ubuntu display the characters?
[07:30] <Ceuse> last time i tried the alternative install cd i got an error installing the software and then bootet to shell where i tried the manual lubuntu installation process from the knolagebase and it failed ^^
[07:30] <tomreyn> Ceuse: in terms of performance: if it can run OS X it can run Ubuntu, too.
[07:30] <claudia> 0er: I'm a total Ubuntu beginner, where do I find that?
[07:30] <damo22> Ceuse: youre probably better off with macosx on native mac hardware and just run linux in a virtual machine to play with it
[07:31] <darkorical> tomreyn thank you for your assistance thus far but currently networking is not working in recovery mode (even when entering netroot) any other suggestions
[07:31] <Dwade09> theadmin:  its not working, it mutes both
[07:32] <theadmin> Dwade09: Oh :( This is weird
[07:32] <Ceuse> true but hell... mac sucks. windows is for gamers (thats why my main pc stays on it ^^) but i never get the chance/oppurtunity to run linux. and since ubuntu seemed to ahve a easy enough gui to get started i wanted to try it. prolly your right though damo22 :/ i will stick to applecrap for a while
[07:32] <theadmin> !hardware | Ceuse, take a look at the hardwaresupport link
[07:32] <damo22> Ceuse: the kernel in macosx is quite good its a Mach kernel
[07:33] <tomreyn> darkorical: what kind of network device do you have there? wired (ethernet) or wireless?
[07:33] <Oer> !wine | claudia
[07:33] <darkorical> wired
[07:33] <claudia> thanks
[07:34] <Oer> claudia, " wget http://winetricks.org/winetricks "  and then "sh winetricks" should give you the options
[07:35] <damo22> Ceuse: i still prefer macosx as my host os and run ubuntu in a virtual machine when i feel the need, its the only OS that lets me play music without glitches and compile 2 kernels at once in 2 different vms
[07:37] <tomreyn> darkorical:  this should start the network:   sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:37] <theadmin> Oer: The Ubuntu wine package includes winetricks by default, just run "winetricks"
[07:38] <Oer> theadmin, great! thnx
[07:38] <Dwade09> ok i have ubuntu 11.10 and when i plug in my headphones the outside speakers still play sound, how do i fix this?
[07:39] <dr_willis> Dwade09:  you checked at askubuntu.com to see if anyone else has written up a fix/guide/work arounds..
[07:39] <damo22> Dwade09, might be a patch you need to apply to alsa
[07:39] <Dwade09> dr_willis:  no i have not, i did not know there was one.
[07:40] <dr_willis> i see similer sound issue questions asked here about 2+ times a week
[07:41] <tomreyn> darkorical: if that's not enough, follow it up by: sudo ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp
[07:41] <damo22> dr_willis, most of these issues have been already fixed upstream but havent made it into ubuntu yet
[07:42] <imgx64> Dwade09: click on the sound indicator, select Sound Settings, select the Output tab, then choose the speakers from the Connector menu.
[07:42] <imgx64> then you can turn it down alone, the headphones won't be affected.
[07:42] <llutz_> tomreyn: you're mixing ifconfig with /etc/network/interfaces syntax. that won't do
[07:43] <Dwade09> imgx64:  i did what you said but it messes with both.
[07:43] <Dwade09> its one bar,
[07:43] <Ceuse> dameo22 well i guess will do that too :) thanks for the advice. perhaps another time i have a pc where linux is more suitable ;)
[07:43] <Olya> Hi all!
[07:43] <tomreyn> llutz_: right, thanks. it's late...
[07:43] <damo22> hi Olya
[07:44] <mirage91> you can try a pc from system76
[07:44] <imgx64> Dwade09: what options do you have in the "Connector" menu? I have "Analog Speakers" and "Analog Headphones".
[07:44] <tomreyn> darkorical: if yu were still listening then scracth that last line
[07:44] <Olya> hi!
[07:44] <Dwade09> imgx64:  o see analog output and analog headphones,
[07:45] <imgx64> Dwade09: And yes, it's one bar, but it only applies to the currently selected connector.
[07:45] <darkorical> I finally said fuggit and typed  rm /etc/init.d/calibre  and rm /etc/init.d/calibre-server then rebooted
[07:45] <darkorical> came back up just fine
[07:46] <dr_willis>  a service like that shouldent hang the whole system. I wonder if theres not some deeper issues going on.
[07:46] <dr_willis> be back in a few.
[07:46] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:46] <StealthVipera47> Hi
[07:46] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know if I can get wine working on a powerpc system?
[07:47] <Dwade09> imgx64:  i do not see analog speakers just analog output and analog headphones, when i have analog output on and turn it down it does both headphones and outside speakers.
[07:47] <ShapeShifter499> they added arm support, which I'm hopping makes the task easier
[07:47] <Dwade09> and same with analog headphones imgx64
[07:47] <crizzy> ShapeShifter499: short answer: no
[07:47] <vagra> Hi! I am beginning to use the terminal more these days. So, how do I tweak gnome terminal to display the commands that I type in green and the output of the commands in white color. Thank you.
[07:48] <imgx64> Dwade09: Oh okay. Sorry then, I don't have a solution.
[07:48] <somsip> vagra: what terminal?
[07:49] <ShapeShifter499> crizzy: couldn't I run something that would emulate a arm or intel system, not a virtual machine, but the bare-bones just to run the unsupported binary ?
[07:49] <ShapeShifter499> I remember I could do something like that with qemu but I never could figure out how
[07:50] <crizzy> there was a mac project back in the day to port wine to ppc but it never really worked / get anywhere
[07:50] <vagra> somsip: The terminal where I type the commands such as "ls", "man" etc. I want "ls" to be in green color and the output of "ls" in white.
[07:50] <crizzy> so no
[07:50] <somsip> vagra: If you've not installed any other terminal, this might help http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[07:50] <akubah> hey
[07:50] <akubah> can i ask sme thing??
[07:51] <akubah> anyone??
[07:51] <AirborneCalavry> hi
[07:51] <somsip> vagra: or more simpler: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470626
[07:51] <akubah> hi
[07:51] <somsip> !anyone | akubah
[07:51] <akubah> wanna ask smething
[07:51] <AirborneCalavry> can you guys help me?
[07:51] <akubah> awwww
[07:51] <ShapeShifter499> crizzy: do you know what I mean though?
[07:51] <akubah> hehe
[07:51] <somsip> !help | AirborneCalavry
[07:52] <AirborneCalavry> !help
[07:52] <akubah> i'm new in this,,where can i get the info about how to download file using mirc
[07:52] <ShapeShifter499> crizzy wait I can probably find a article about it
[07:52] <crizzy> ShapeShifter499: yes but i would just forget it and get an intel machine for intel binaries
[07:52] <North> theadmin: I still cannot have the privilege to write on user directory.
[07:52] <ShapeShifter499> oh ok :/
[07:52] <crizzy> ShapeShifter499: you'll be just torturing yourself and accomplishing nothing
[07:52] <somsip> akubah: /join #mirc, probably
[07:53] <AirborneCalavry> ok. My update manger keeps getting errors and i cannot download anything python related off the software manager
[07:53] <akubah> aww
[07:53] <jvipa5g> I have a doubt. In the split "Online Accounts" set up my Gmail account. There is an option of "Documents" that is to synchronize your Google Docs?
[07:53] <ShapeShifter499> crizzy: eh I was hoping to pump a little more life into a increasingly getting outdated powerbook g4
[07:55] <North> where can I set the privilege to write on user directory?
[07:55] <Dwade09> how do i get my multimedia systems selector open?
[07:55] <AirborneCalavry> (will in include error message when attended to)
[07:55] <ShapeShifter499> new question......         is there going to be usb support in 1.4 wine? (people in #winehq won't answer me)
[07:55] <llutz_> !permissions| North
[07:56] <Dwade09> imgx64:  i think i found it but i can not open the application.
[07:57] <somsip> North: what user needs to write?
[07:57] <AirborneCalavry> Hi, My update manger keeps giving me this error message"'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[07:57] <Ranthor_Harwath> Hello, there can anybody help with the 11.04 desktop window manager, it is weird
[07:58] <Ranthor_Harwath> I  click win+W , all windows are minimized in a good fashion
[07:58] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run. Make sure it doesn't do anything that looks bad, then run it again without fry-run
[07:58] <somsip> s/fry/dry
[07:58] <Dwade09> how do i open an application? i am trying to open my multimedia systems selector
[07:58] <Ranthor_Harwath> I want to focus one of them, but it is imposibble
[08:00] <vagra> somsip: Thank you, :)
[08:00] <AirborneCalavry> has given me a error message
[08:01] <somsip> vagra: np. Also consider urxvt if you're havin fun changing configuration of terminals
[08:01] <AirborneCalavry> @somsip have given a error messeage
[08:01] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: Will you tell me what it is, or shall I guess?
[08:02] <Fleg_> Hi All! After installing the Catalyst drivers I get flickering on the screen. What am I doing wrong? The card is a discrete AMD Radeon HD 6410D on A4-3400.
[08:02] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with adobe flash.... it works, but i can't change anything in the properties... when i right-click and choose "properties" the windows opens, but i can't click anything
[08:02] <AirborneCalavry> @somsip; calculating Upgrade=failed, 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[08:03] <greenit> plz help :(
[08:03] <phix> hi greenit sup?
[08:03] <greenit> phix, sup?
[08:04] <Chucky_Luciano> hi guys
[08:04] <greenit> phix, what does that mean?
[08:04] <werder> lol
[08:04] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: it's not good form for me to recommend you look on Google, but a search on that error gives at least a page full of solutions. What have you tried so far?
[08:04] <phix> greenit: That means what's up,  I was refering to --> 19:03 < phix> hi greenit sup?
[08:04] <phix> 19:03 < greenit> plz help :(
[08:05] <phix> even
[08:05] <Chucky_Luciano> i cant seem to get the "commands" plugin to work in compiz config settings manager, and no one seems to be available in #compiz ,  and i was wondering if someone here could see if they can use it, and if so telll me what they did?  thanks in advance
[08:05] <greenit> phix, ah, k.... the plz help refers to greenit> hi, i have a problem with adobe flash.... it works, but i can't change anything in the properties... when i right-click and choose "properties" the windows opens, but i can't click anything
[08:05] <phix> Chucky_Luciano: Never used that plugin before
[08:05] <Chucky_Luciano> me either, phix, i am trying to use it now, though
[08:05] <AirborneCalavry> somsip well just those sudo commands and that leads me to the same error about held packages.. im pretty new to Ubuntu but i'll give it a go
[08:05] <Chucky_Luciano> it looks pretty promising
[08:06] <werder> greenit: i have seen most distros nowadays have an Adobe-sancioned program for flash preferences. Should be in the menus.
[08:06] <Gskellig> what is THE most minimal ubuntu gui to put on my server
[08:06] <Gskellig> xfce?
[08:06] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: it's worth reading through these yourself. All I'd be doing is looking at them and asking 'Have you tried this?'. you know?
[08:06] <somsip> Gskellig: cli
[08:07] <somsip> Gskellig: ignore that
[08:07] <AirborneCalavry> somsip, another question i cannot download anything releated to python it just says check internet connection, any ideas?
[08:07] <Gskellig> ^^
[08:07] <Gskellig> lol
[08:07] <Chucky_Luciano> i seem to have gotten it to work!
[08:07] <llutz_> Gskellig: twm, ratpoison
[08:07] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: and what are you trying to download?
[08:08] <mraxilus> does anyone know why my applications lense randomly stopped working?
[08:08] <Chucky_Luciano> apparently, i had slightly confused the definition of command, and was trying to do something that was considered beyond the scope of a command
[08:08] <Chucky_Luciano> thanks anyways guys
[08:08] <phix> greenit: ah ok
[08:08] <dr_willis> Gskellig: jwm is a lite window manager
[08:09] <AirborneCalavry> somsip, SDE, IDLE (all versions) or anything related to python Programming language, Just say check internet connections, yet i can download pidgen with no problems
[08:09] <greenit> werder, can you tell me where this program is in ubuntu 11.10?
[08:09] <Gskellig> thanks guys
[08:10] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: have you updated recently?
[08:10] <Chucky_Luciano> hey, is it possible to upgrade totem movie player to 3.2.1 if i am using ubuntu natty?  i like v3.2.1 better, as i have used it in fedora 16, but natty only has totem 2.32.0 ...how would one go about getting the later version?  i did see it on softpedia, but i am not sure how to go about installing it
[08:10] <werder> greenit: I'm not on the Buntu right now but I think if you open up the Lens and start typing "flash" or "adobe" it should pop up
[08:10] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: version, that is. like, up to 11.10 from 11.04 or something
[08:11] <g00053> is there a gnome-shell setting or extension that will bring up notifications on the left instead of the right?
[08:11] <greenit> werder, nope, doesn't show.... probably i have to install an extra program from the repos?
[08:11] <g00053> as in when i mouse that corner
[08:11] <AirborneCalavry> somsip, this system is 2 days old, from vinalla 11.10 with one lot updates though the update manager and now i have these problems
[08:11] <slackin_> Does anyone know the difference between the 'Intel 945GM/GMS/GME'? What does GM, GME, and GMS mean?
[08:11] <werder> Gskellig: scrotwm is also a good'un
[08:12] <theadmin> slackin_: Might be better to ask in ##hardware
[08:12] <Gskellig> lol
[08:12] <Gskellig> cool
[08:12] <somsip> AirborneCalavry: Hmm. Then I would suggest chosing a different mirror from the update manager thingy, refreshing all sources, then trying it again. source: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/179039
[08:12] <AirborneCalavry> somsip ok thanks for that :)
[08:12] <werder> greenit: it might be in the repos. I thought it installed itself when I installed flash but maybe not.
[08:14] <Ranthor_Harwath> there seems to be a bug with evolution mail client with MAPI
[08:14] <llutz_> Gskellig: honestly, if you consider XFCE being minimalistic, you won't get happy with all those alternativcs mentioned
[08:14] <Ranthor_Harwath> is there any workaround for that
[08:14] <Ranthor_Harwath> I can not send mails over Exchange
[08:14] <Gskellig> llutz_, i know nothing about minimal wm's lol. I thought xfce was minimalistic
[08:15] <transporter> Mailserver question. In /etc/postfix/main.cf I have [relayhost = smtp.someisp.no] and everything works fine. I have to use this relayhost since my ISP has closed port 25. My ISP tells me that if I dont want to use their relayhost I have to configure my mailserver to use a ssl port like port 465. Then I can remove the relayhost option. Do anyone know where I do this like which files to edit and
[08:15] <transporter> is this possible if I dont set up my server as a DNS Server?
[08:15] <Gskellig> I'm looking at fluxbox now
[08:15] <werder> greenit: it looks like the program is called "adobe-flash-properties-gtk"
[08:15] <North> where can I set the privilege to write on user directory?
[08:15] <werder> Gskellig: stay with fluxbox. Don't go deeper and become addicted like me!
[08:16] <somsip> North: what user needs to read (second time I've answered you)
[08:16] <greenit> werder, thx, found it :)
[08:16] <Gskellig> werder, but that sounds like fun!
[08:16] <Ranthor_Harwath> transporter : /etc/postfix/main.cf
[08:16] <Gskellig> don't worry i still have tabs for scrotwm, ratpoison and jwm open ^^
[08:16] <somsip> Gskellig: then add a tab for AwesomeWM too! Quickly! ;)
[08:16] <werder> Gskellig: soon you will be overwhelmed by musca, awesome, awm, ion3, wmii and the like.
[08:17] <Gskellig> shit.
[08:17] <Gskellig> so many
[08:17] <North> somsip: sorry I do not understand. I mean I canot access to user directory.
[08:17] <somsip> North: what user is 'I' and what user dir are you trying to access. For example, on my PC I am 'mark' and I cannot access user 'kim' by design. But I can access 'mark' and 'media'. Explain yourself more
[08:18] <werder> Gskellig: a small selection: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager#Window_managers
[08:18] <Assid> heya
[08:19] <Gskellig> thanks werder
[08:19] <Assid> im trying to roll out ubuntu on a desktop WITHOUT  hard drive.. how do i make it work?
[08:19] <Assid> i can give it an iscsi target and a tftp to boot from
[08:19] <werder> Gskellig: don't thank me I've just killed your productivity for a week. In a good way though.
[08:20] <transporter> Ranthor_Harwath: What do you propose I should do?
[08:20] <Abooda> hi all ... if anybody knows a channel which might have support for the German freeware Digibux
[08:20] <Abooda> that would be great
[08:20] <llutz_> !alis | Abooda
[08:20] <Ranthor_Harwath> you want to change the port number
[08:20] <North> somsip: I made a document and tried to save it to the directory. the error message is "Error saving the document Utitled1: Access to /home/ram/Desktop/a.odt was denied.
[08:20] <Abooda> Assid: do you mean booting from a USB?
[08:21] <somsip> North: what user are you signed in as?
[08:21] <North> somsip: it's ram
[08:21] <Assid> Abooda nah.. i wanna go complete diskless
[08:21] <somsip> post the output of "ls -la /home" please
[08:21] <Assid> hmm..let me try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[08:21] <Gskellig> ooh what I really want is a wm that will automatically start up when I connect with vnc and stop when I disconnect
[08:21] <somsip> North: post the output of "ls -la /home" please
[08:21] <Gskellig> that would be sweet
[08:22] <Ranthor_Harwath> transport: on the /etc/postfix/master.cf
[08:22] <North> somsip: lsram@ram-desktop:~$ ls -la /home
[08:22] <North> total 12
[08:22] <North> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2012-02-13 01:40 .
[08:22] <North> drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2012-02-12 23:04 ..
[08:22] <North> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   44 2012-02-13 01:40 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-home
[08:22] <allenyk>   /quit
[08:22] <FloodBot1> North: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <North> drwxr-xr-x 31 ram  ram  4096 2012-02-13 01:51 ram
[08:22] <Ranthor_Harwath> you should see the ports for smtp and smtps
[08:22] <Ranthor_Harwath> north please don't paste here
[08:23] <North> Sorry
[08:23] <somsip> North: ok - cd /home/ram && ls -la Desktop, and pst the result
[08:23] <llutz_> North: ls -ld ~/Desktop
[08:23] <Dwade09> under alsamixer in the terminal my headphones is greyed out, how do i get my headphones to read in alsamixer?
[08:23] <Ranthor_Harwath> use paste bin
[08:23] <Ranthor_Harwath> dont paste
[08:24] <North> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840133/
[08:24] <werder> Gskellig: This might help: http://www.skullbox.net/vncserver.php
[08:24] <transporter> Ranthor: Do you know exactly what I should put there and shall I delete the entry relayhost in /etc/postfix/main.cf ?
[08:25] <somsip> North: now ls -ld Desktop
[08:25] <eyy1sup> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu 11.04>11.10 (just upgraded)... cron service is not running and there's no way to get it to run. When I run "sudo service cron" it displays nothing. Chkconfig shows crond as OFF even though I turned it on. Can someone please help me sort this out?
[08:25] <North> somsip: please visit the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/840133/
[08:25] <eyy1sup> "sudo service cron status" *is what I meant
[08:25] <somsip> North: that's the same as before. please 'ls -ld /home/ram/Desktop' and pastebin it
[08:26] <Ranthor_Harwath> transport: master.cf is for ports and stuff , relaying is another issue and should be configured in main.cf
[08:26] <tu-no> hi, I'm experiencing problems with the i915 driver giving segfaults once in a while. And on boot today I had a loop on the following error:
[08:26] <tu-no>  [drm:i915_gem_execbuffer_relocate_entry] *ERROR* Relocation beyond target object bounds
[08:26] <tu-no> I'm a bit lost on how to fix this, does anyone have a hint or direction to point me in?
[08:26] <North> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840136/
[08:27] <llutz_> North: chmod 755 ~/Desktop
[08:27] <somsip> llutz_: feel free...
[08:27] <massimo> hola
[08:27] <North> llutz: Done.
[08:28] <llutz_> North: save your document again, should do
[08:28] <Ranthor_Harwath> is there any chat room for evolution mail, it has some issues
[08:29] <transporter> Ranthor: Thank you sir. I'll try it out and get back to later.
[08:29] <werder> Ranthor_Harwath: #gnome probably
[08:29] <North> llutz: i can save it on the Desktop. but could not move to another directory. Message is "Error while moving "a.odt" there was an error moving the file into /home/ram/Documents."
[08:29] <Ranthor_Harwath> @werder thanks after some googling irc.gimp.org
[08:30] <kism> can anyone help me automount a samba share in /media/, i keep getting 'line x in /etc/fstab  is bad'
[08:30] <llutz_> North: well i guess you messed up permissions of some more dirs. set them to 755, read !permissions again
[08:30] <North> llutz: I need to do directory by directory?????????
[08:31] <dr_willis> kism:  whats the line
[08:32] <Ranthor_Harwath> kism: what is the fstab line complaining about, most probably a syntax error
[08:32] <Gskellig> ok now whats a good vnc client
[08:32] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I wanted to try kubuntu (kde) so I installed the kubuntu packages on my ubuntu 11.10 installation, but I were not satisfied and switched back to unity...now the startup screen is still kubuntu, how do I get rid of that
[08:32] <North> llutz: Can I have the privilege to be writable in any directories with certain command?
[08:32] <dr_willis> Gskellig: several in the repos. tightvnc us common
[08:32] <chroot> how to check the NIC's hard address in ubuntu ?
[08:33] <kism> dr_willis Ranthor_Harwath //dpshub/My\ Music /media/musicserver cifs credentials=/home/kism/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[08:33] <dr_willis> chroot: ethtool. ifconfig
[08:33] <North> somsip: Can I have the privilege to be writable in any directories with certain command?
[08:34] <dr_willis> kism: spaces in share names need to be replaced with a special %## sequence
[08:34] <Gskellig> there are quite a few versions of tightvnc in the repos
[08:34] <kism> aah thanks
[08:34] <dr_willis> kism:  easier to justchange share name
[08:34] <kism> yeah alright, thanks
[08:34] <chroot> dr_willis, thanks,
[08:34] <Gskellig> tightvnc-java, ssvnc, xtightvncserver
[08:35] <chroot> and can i reset the hardware address on NIC ?
[08:35] <chroot> in ubuntu
[08:35] <North> llutz: what is the problem with Examples directory? http://paste.ubuntu.com/840141/
[08:35] <dr_willis> chroot: you can change the mac yes
[08:35] <parapan> yo fellows; I set up a VPN connection from ubuntu to a windows server , the network manager reports the connection is active, I can see myself on the list of the server, but the connection does not work ....when browsing the network I get "failed to retrieve the share list from the server" ....what can I do ???
[08:35] <chroot> and this times how?
[08:36] <dr_willis> chroot:  again. ifconfig. or ethtool
[08:36] <eyy1sup> why does "initctl list" not return anything on my Ubuntu?
[08:37] <chroot> ok, i will read the man page myself. thanks .
[08:37] <theadmin> eyy1sup: Try "service --status-all"
[08:38] <diverdude> Why is tlmgr not available in the ubuntu version of texlive??
[08:38] <dr_willis> never seen initctrl befor. ;)
[08:39] <parapan> yo fellows; I set up a VPN connection from ubuntu to a windows server , the network manager reports the connection is active, I can see myself on the list of the server, but the connection does not work ....when browsing the network I get "failed to retrieve the share list from the server" ....what can I do ???
[08:39] <eyy1sup> theadmin: it shows "cron" with a ? ... what does that mean? Upstart doesn't start a lot of services since upgrade
[08:39] <crary> ni
[08:39] <North> would you tell me how to solve the problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/840141/
[08:39] <theadmin> eyy1sup: Probably it means cron doesn't report the status properly
[08:39] <crary> must say en?
[08:40] <Olya> Hi all!
[08:40] <eyy1sup> theadmin: hmm... any time I type "service xxxxxx status" it reports nothing... as if the 'service' command isn't working properly
[08:42] <theadmin> eyy1sup: hmmm... Guess that is the case then :$ I dunno
[08:42] <CharminTheMoose> How can I view a list of the most recently installed packages?
[08:42] <eyy1sup> well, nevermind, service apache2 status worked... but cron is not even responding
[08:42] <diverdude> Why is tlmgr not available in the ubuntu version of texlive??
[08:44] <parapan> yo fellows; I set up a VPN connection from ubuntu to a windows server , the network manager reports the connection is active, I can see myself on the list of the server, but the connection does not work ....when browsing the network I get "failed to retrieve the share list from the server" ....what can I do ???
[08:44] <kism> dr_willis the sequence is \040 and thanks for the help
[08:44] <mjhszig> does anyone use a brother printer??
[08:45] <crary> could anyone else say chinese?
[08:45] <mjhszig> im having an insanely crazy print issue - i think im going to smash it/and/or my computer
[08:47] <shadowe989> mjhszig,  put it on Youtube if you go that route. :)))
[08:47] <eyy1sup> does anyone know why "runlevel" would return "unknown" ?
[08:48] <llutz_> !runlevel | eyy1sup
[08:48] <mcurran> When my system starts up, my eth0 connection gets an IP and reports connected, but there's no traffic going through, I always have to disconnect and reconnect.  Anyone got any ideas?  I have wicd running at startup, and I also define a static ip in interfaces file.  I've tried disabling wlan0, but that doesn't help, because I thought wicd was connecting wlan0 and ...
[08:48] <eyy1sup> ubottu: so, since it uses Upstart, seeing "Unknown" is normal because there's nothing in /etc/inittab?
[08:49] <shadowe989> !Upstart
[08:49] <mjhszig> id prefer not too.. :/
[08:50] <shadowe989> mjhszig, i'd just state you're problem here and the ubuntu forums then check back if anyone had a question. a lot of people afk here.
[08:51] <shadowe989> if anyone had a answer*
[08:51] <dr_willis> check askubuntu.com also
[08:52] <werder> crary: you want Chinese what now?
[08:52] <shadowe989> werder, lol
[08:52] <parapan> I set up a VPN connection from ubuntu to a windows server , the network manager reports the connection is active, I can see myself on the list of the server, but the connection does not work ....when browsing the network I get "failed to retrieve the share list from the server" ....what can I do ???
[08:52] <shadowe989> !cn | crary
[08:53] <dr_willis> parapan: can you ping the machines
[08:53] <parapan> dr_willis: nope
[08:54] <llutz_> parapan: check routeing "route -n", your defalut-route should point to the vpn-servers IP
[08:54] <llutz_> default*
[08:54] <parapan> dr_willis: cannot ping any internal IP, but the server reports I'm connected .....maybe something related with editing the smb.conf ???? samba is installed , is working on my home network just fine ...
[08:55] <dr_willis> parapan:  windows firewall would be my first guess.
[08:55] <imgx64> Following an update, USB disks no longer show in Unity's panel. Can I get them back?
[08:56] <dr_willis> if ping fails, id think its firewal. or not a samba issue
[08:56] <parapan> llutz_: the command is giving me the external IP of the VPN server ...and also an internal IP address ...guess that's correct
[08:57] <parapan> dr_willis: in what way ? what to check on the firewall ??? other connections are working and active .....all of them are windows clients anyway ....
[08:58] <dr_willis> parapan:  i always turn off the windows firewall
[08:59] <mickepaprika> I have the problem that everything freezes for 1 second, approx every 30 secs.. googling for that it seems like it can be a symptom for many different things, but none of the solutions i've found seems to work.. what is a good starting point for trying to locate the problem?
[09:00] <Ranthor_Harwath> I contact the evolution support guys
[09:00] <Ranthor_Harwath> they told me to upgrade to 3.2.3
[09:00] <shadowe989> mickepaprika, when did it start happening, any changes to you're system before your issue?
[09:00] <Ranthor_Harwath> actually the distro should update it
[09:00] <Ranthor_Harwath> whom should I contact here?
[09:01] <mjhszig> *not really a linux problem, just throwing this out there...*  -Pinguy/OpenOffice.org spreadsheet/Brother printer : everything working fine, until i hit Print on file X.odt, then computer sends file to printer, printer light comes on and then nothing, but ANY other file i open, or new file i create will print. so i copied only the text into new document, it prints, copied only formating into new document, it prints, so i copy all of
[09:01] <mjhszig>  file into a new file , now it wont print again!
[09:02] <mjhszig> just thought maybe someone out there with a Brother print had a similar issue, or had an idea...
[09:02] <parapan> dr_willis: OK, got that but, if the firewall will be active would I have the server reported that I'm connected and active ????
[09:03] <diuneigh> can someone help me with setting up a swap partition?  I am getting an error.
[09:03] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: it happened after the upgrade to 11.10
[09:03] <llutz_> Ranthor_Harwath: precise has 3.2.3. find a backport-repo, a ppa or just build it from source
[09:03] <dr_willis> parapan: it coulf be blocking the ping test
[09:04] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: i upgraded from 10.04 (i think) so i skipped some versions.. so don't know exactly which version that is the bad guy
[09:04] <parapan> dr_willis: our admin says it is not the case ...he suggested me to ping the internal IP's
[09:05] <shadowe989> mickepaprika, sometimes upgrades vs fresh install can be buggy. I'd pop in the live disk and see if it works without installing. If it does work then back up your data and reformat clean.
[09:05] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: already tried that... it's a fresh install, and the problem still exists
[09:05] <overclucker> Ranthor_Harwath: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/
[09:05]  * wh1zz0 guys please I am trying to ssh into a port 333 but it doesnt let me.. This is the command I used... ssh -p 333 dave@hostip   Is there another option that makes this not work? When I use my windows box (putty) and I change the port field from 22 to 333) it connects once. But from my ubuntu it doesnt cannot. Please help
[09:06] <parapan> dr_willis: however ....I've done the route -n command and it returned the external and the internal IP of the VPN server .....so the ping to internal IP 192.168.1.150 is working ....but no other IP respond to ping ...
[09:06] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: the problem is also appearant when I run from the live disk
[09:07] <shadowe989> mickepaprika, hmm I take it, you've updated and installed you're graphics driver?
[09:07] <diuneigh> can anyone help me with a swap file partition?
[09:07] <llutz_> wh1zz0: do you have set any iptables rules denying outgoing 333?
[09:07] <wh1zz0> llutz_: None at all
[09:08] <crary> does anyone else hear me?
[09:08] <dr_willis> a swap file, or a swap partition,
[09:08] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: yes i guess the graphics driver is new, i haven't done any explicit installation, using the one that got installed by the installation process. i have an intel graphics card
[09:08] <werder> crary: what's up?
[09:08] <wh1zz0> llutz_:  Last time I did ssh into another port other than the defaut 22... I think I added a different option.. version or something, but can't remember... Help would be apppreciated
[09:09] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Can't remember the exact syntax/command
[09:09] <llutz_> wh1zz0: "telnet hostip 333"  does it show something like "OpenSSh ...blahblah"
[09:09] <diuneigh> dr_willis...I made the swap file already when I install 11.10 but gparted doesn't calls it unknown.
[09:09] <llutz_> wh1zz0: ssh -p333 hostip     is correct and shouldn't need any other options
[09:10] <dr_willis> diuneigh:  a swap partition. you mean?
[09:10] <diuneigh> dr willis: yes.. it is not on.
[09:10] <shadowe989> mickepaprika, hows you're cpu usage looking in "System Monitor"? is it hitting 100%?
[09:10] <dr_willis> diuneigh:  try the proper swapon command.
[09:11] <diuneigh> dr_willis: what is it?  I havent' had luck googling an answer.
[09:11] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Yes .. this is what is shows to be precise: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840166/
[09:11] <werder> diuneigh: sudo swapon /dev/sdaX
[09:11] <kwtm2> Question about Qsynth/Fluidsynth: I can play my music composition ok through Rosegarden + Qsynth, but when I try to convert it to Midi, I lose all the percussion.  How can I retain percussion?
[09:12] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: running xfce, so not sure how to access the system monitor... this is from "top" though: Cpu(s):  2.5%us,  1.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 95.9%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[09:12] <dr_willis> diuneigh:  swapon /dev/sdxx  i think. check man page
[09:12] <diuneigh> werder: thanks.. how to permanently turn it on?
[09:12] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: so nothing strange there as far as i can see?
[09:12] <werder> diuneigh: you'll need to edit fstab if it isn't mounting on boot
[09:12] <dr_willis> diuneigh: fstab entry in /etc/fstab
[09:12] <wh1zz0> llutz_: I tried exactly as you stated and what i usually use but keep getting this error: Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1
[09:13] <diuneigh> werder: what do I edit in fstab?  I followed this site and it didn't work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[09:13] <llutz_> wh1zz0: try "ssh -2 -p333 user@hostip"
[09:13] <diuneigh> Dr. willis: see msg to werder above.
[09:13] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Okie never mind.. I found it.. using the -1 option works
[09:13] <boba88> good morning everybody :) Is my processor  (Intel Pentium III (4 CPUs), 2.3 GHz) 64-bit capable?
[09:13] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Connected... Thanks
[09:14] <llutz_> wh1zz0: why the heck do you use ssh-v1?
[09:14] <diuneigh> werder: error swapon: /dev/sdb5: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[09:14] <auronandace> boba88: pentium3 i sincerely doubt it
[09:14] <wh1zz0> llutz_: isnt that the default?
[09:14] <shadowe989> mickepaprika,  Ahh okay... that looks good. very odd... I assumed you was running gnome 3 and was taking a shot that gnome 3 was the reason you're lagging but I do not know much about xfce so I am unable to help. :(
[09:14] <wh1zz0> llutz_: If not, please how can I change it
[09:14] <llutz_> wh1zz0: iirc not since some years
[09:14] <llutz_> boba88: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[09:15] <burazrock_> hi all,i have problems with my nvidia card.it is a g105m. I tryed to install ppa (xswat) to upgrade automaticcaly drivers but when install driver current, after grub the screen stands black. So i remove ppa and now driver nouveau is running, but when i try to install drivers proprietry with jockey it crashs during the installation and after reboot screen is black after grub...what can i do?if it is possible i would
[09:15] <burazrock_> latest video driver.thanks
[09:15] <werder> diuneigh: try sudo swapoff then swapon
[09:15] <shadowe989> mickepaprika, Maybe askubuntu.com or the ubuntu forums can help... maybe someone in here? But good luck.
[09:15] <wh1zz0> llutz_: I know that I always keep my machine up to date.. So how come it hasn't updated automatically...*thinking*
[09:15] <boba88> llutz_: no unix-based currently... i plan to install one
[09:15] <llutz_> wh1zz0: change it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config  (protocol 2)
[09:15] <llutz_> wh1zz0: Protocol 2
[09:16] <mickepaprika> shadowe989: ok thanks anyway! no it seems to be something deeper... i would expect to see some line in dmesg whenever it happens, but nothing there... alright will try that! thanks!
[09:16] <auronandace> boba88: check it in wikipedia
[09:17] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Okie I have it opened now but what line do I change?
[09:17] <llutz_> wh1zz0: Protocol 2
[09:17] <wh1zz0> I can see protocol version 2 there... Or is it because the remote computer uses version 1?
[09:17] <chroot> hi, how to forbidden telnet and ftp service when system booting up ?
[09:17] <diuneigh> werder: same error with swap off.
[09:18] <wh1zz0> llutz_: When you say edit the versions, are you talking about edditing the sshd_config file in the remote hostip im connecting to?
[09:18] <werder> diuneigh: what does gparted say about the partition?
[09:18] <Ranthor_Harwath> hello how does windows+W work?
[09:18] <Ranthor_Harwath> in the gnome
[09:18] <llutz_> wh1zz0: yes. you might check ~/.ssh/config on the clients too, maybe some set "Protocol 1" there
[09:18] <zeroblock> hello a;;
[09:18] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Because from what I can see.. From my server which i'm connecting from.. doing gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and viewing the file shows me Protocol version 2 alredy here
[09:18] <Olya> Hi all!
[09:18] <dr_willis> chroot:  clarify what you mean
[09:18] <Olya> Help please
[09:19] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Okie thanks
[09:19] <Olya> ext3grep ext3grep: init_directories.cc:534: void init_directories(): Assertion `lost_plus_found_directory_iter != all_directories.end()' failed.
[09:19] <Olya> PLEASE HELP!
[09:19] <werder> shouting is rude
[09:19] <chroot> everytime when i boot my machine, the telnet and ftp service will open automatically, this is unsecure
[09:19] <diuneigh> werder: there is an ! next to it and calls it unknown (although I made the swap file in the installer).
[09:19] <chroot> so i want to shutdown it
[09:20] <dr_willis> chroot:  why do you have them installed then .
[09:20] <Olya> hEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!
[09:20] <llutz_> wh1zz0: you also could try setting sshd_config "Protocol 2,1" to use bot protocol versions, if some clients still need it
[09:20] <auronandace> diuneigh: a swap file and a swap partition are two different things
[09:20] <chroot> for remote control and file sharing
[09:20] <zeroblock> can I install ubuntu on mbp 2011 early ?I haved google about it but it seens have wifi problem
[09:20] <shadowe989> everybody panic!! lol sorry ot :))
[09:20] <dr_willis> chroot:  if upstart runs them check /etc/init.d  i think
[09:20] <werder> diuneigh: I assume gparted tells you it is unmounted. You can just reformat it to swap again.
[09:21] <dr_willis> chroot:  ssh makes them redundant
[09:21] <zeroblock> how to solved wifi problem about mbp ?
[09:21] <Olya> Please Help!
[09:21] <diuneigh> werder: I cannot format it.. there is an error.
[09:21] <chroot> yeah, i know that too, but exactly, what to do to forbidden the service start up at bootstrap
[09:21] <werder> diuneigh: is the error some crap about running processes?
[09:21] <diuneigh> auroanandace: ok.. it is a swap partition
[09:22] <dr_willis> Olya:  shouting tends to get yiu ignored
[09:22] <overclucker> Ranthor_Harwath: you might be able to check your keybindings to find out
[09:22] <Ranthor_Harwath> checked the documentation
[09:22] <Olya> no
[09:22] <Olya> im not
[09:22] <Olya> just help please
[09:22] <auronandace> !helpme | Olya
[09:22] <Olya> ext3grep ext3grep: init_directories.cc:534: void init_directories(): Assertion `lost_plus_found_directory_iter != all_directories.end()' failed.
[09:22] <diuneigh> werder: no mkswap -L "" /dev/sdb5
[09:22] <diuneigh>      	
[09:22] <diuneigh> /dev/sdb5: Device or resource busy
[09:22] <Ranthor_Harwath> I click windows + W , it is nice, I want to focus one of the window
[09:23] <llutz_> chroot: rename according upstart-scripts in /etc/init to /etc/init/service.conf.disabled or use sysv-rc-conf to disable them
[09:23] <werder> diuneigh: as I thought, the devious bastard (I have trouble with this too). try sudo "lsof /dev/sda5"
[09:23] <dr_willis> Olya:  i would start with googling and chevking askubuntu.com for that exact error message
[09:24] <diuneigh> werder: with ""?
[09:24] <werder> diuneigh: sorry without the quotation marks
[09:24] <Olya> ok start please
[09:24] <werder> lulz
[09:25] <auronandace> Olya: he means you check them
[09:25] <diuneigh> werder: nothing..
[09:25] <Olya> no
[09:25] <Olya> he about him
[09:25] <Olya> "i start"...
[09:25] <dr_willis> be more detailed in your responses.
[09:25] <shadowe989> lol
[09:25] <diuneigh> werder: thanks for your help but I'll have to tackle this tomorrow.... too tired..
[09:25] <auronandace> Olya: english isn't your first language is it?
[09:26] <dr_willis> im not doing stuff you can do. im on a cellphone
[09:26] <Olya> yes
[09:26] <boba88> auronandace: I just did echo %PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE% under windows and it gives me x86, so it is 32 bit capable only?
[09:26] <Ben64> Olya has been in and out of here for about 8.5hrs asking how to undelete stuff
[09:26] <auronandace> boba88: yes
[09:26] <jpds> !ru | Olya
[09:26] <Olya> no
[09:26] <dr_willis> last i saw he has the files with out the names...
[09:26] <Olya> little people
[09:26] <Ben64> i haven't kept up with it, too much shouting for me
[09:27] <werder> please keep the comedy gold rolling
[09:27] <boba88> and under linux if i do cat proc/cpuinfo and if it has an lm flag than it is 64 bit capable right, just curios?
[09:27] <shadowe989> werder, lol
[09:27] <llutz_> boba88: yes
[09:27] <dr_willis> if that fs has been in use stuff may nit be recoverable anymire
[09:27] <Olya> dr_willis, you start?
[09:27] <boba88> llutz_: thanks :)
[09:28] <Ben64> Olya: what he meant was "If I were you, I would...."
[09:28] <dr_willis> olya you need to check askubuntu. and google. is my advice.
[09:28] <Olya> ok
[09:28] <Olya> you do it?
[09:28] <shadowe989> lol this has to be a troll
[09:28] <Olya> im bad english
[09:29] <dr_willis> you do it.
[09:29] <Olya> how i chek askubuntu?
[09:29] <dr_willis> its a web site..
[09:29] <shadowe989> www.askubuntu.com
[09:29] <Olya> sure i have in google but no sk
[09:29] <Olya> ask
[09:29] <Olya> http://groups.google.com/group/ext3grep/browse_thread/thread/d1eff17ad2846994
[09:30] <Olya> Please Help!
[09:30] <shadowe989> !helpme | Olya
[09:30] <llutz_> !details > Olya Pls read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:30] <dr_willis> repeating help me... gets you ignored..
[09:30] <werder> or gives us good laffs
[09:31] <dr_willis> i imagine his files are gone now anyway
[09:31] <Olya> very big tutorial and VERY BAD I ENGLESH KNOW!
[09:32] <Ranthor_Harwath> Olya, so dont do it
[09:32] <Olya> but know simply words
[09:32] <Ranthor_Harwath> olya, do something else
[09:32] <Olya> how?
[09:32] <jatt> I can send email with postfix configuring it as relay for google SMTP but mail to root@localhost doesn't arrives what could be the reason of this?
[09:32] <shadowe989> dr_willis, agreed.
[09:32] <Ranthor_Harwath> jatt: checkk /var/log/messages
[09:33] <Olya> i cry :(
[09:33] <jpds> Olya: Sometimes you just need backups.
[09:33] <dr_willis> google has a translate feature.
[09:33] <shadowe989> dr_willis ahh good idea!
[09:34] <llutz_> jatt: do you have "localhost" in mydestination?
[09:34] <shadowe989> Olya, http://translate.google.com/
[09:34] <Olya> it in backup
[09:34] <Olya> i use image
[09:34] <jatt> I checked /var/log/mail.log, you can see a snippet here:
[09:34] <jatt> http://codepad.org/wl4mTm5U
[09:35] <jatt> basically it says:
[09:35] <jatt> Feb 13 10:33:31 user-laptop postfix/local[29268]: 8B568C5E1A: to=<root@localhost>, relay=local, delay=0.18, delays=0.1/0.01/0/0.08, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: procmail -a "$EXTENSION")
[09:35] <llutz_> jatt: and also, root should get any mails, they should be redirected to a common user account
[09:35] <Olya> i use trans
[09:35] <Marvin_> hey hey
[09:35] <Olya> PLEASE HELP!
[09:35] <jatt> so it must be sent, but when I login as root and type mail it says: No mail for root
[09:35] <llutz_> jatt: so check you procmail settings
[09:35] <Olya> jpds, you know ext3grep?
[09:35] <Ben64> Olya: your files are probably gone forever by now, get new files
[09:35] <Olya> plz
[09:35] <shadowe989> !helpme | Olya
[09:36] <llutz_> jatt: and also, root should get any mails, they should be redirected to a common user account. check your /etc/aliases
[09:36] <Olya> !helpme | Olya
[09:36] <dr_willis> Olya: you havent even taken time to read any translated guides...
[09:37] <Olya> i just need friend here
[09:37] <Olya> who help me
[09:37] <jatt> llutz_: thanks. /etc/aliases says:
[09:37] <jatt> postmaster:    root
[09:37] <Olya> or friends...
[09:37] <Marvin_> im sorry, i dont want to disturb you all now while helping olya...but if anyone got time to help me with a irc question, i would be damn thankfull
[09:37] <llutz_> jatt: look for lines starting with root:
[09:37] <Ben64> Marvin_: you'd have to ask it first
[09:37] <Ranthor_Harwath> I am lost
[09:38] <jatt> I'm reading procmail man page to see how to configure it
[09:38] <piliakis> hello
[09:38] <Olya> Marvin, i have tragedion now :(
[09:38] <Ranthor_Harwath> jatt: what do you want to achieve
[09:38] <Olya> tragedy
[09:38] <Marvin_> thanks ben, is there any way for a private message? its shameful for me
[09:38] <Ben64> !pm | Marvin_
[09:38] <Olya> Ben64 and me?
[09:38] <piliakis> I have removed pulseaudio from Ubuntu 11.10 and using ALSA together with xfce4-mixer for volume control
[09:38] <jatt> Ranthor_Harwath: http://codepad.org/wl4mTm5U
[09:38] <jatt> I'm sending mail to root@localhost with postfix, get delivered by it through procmail but doesn't arrive to root
[09:39] <jatt> well not me, but apt-listchanges
[09:39] <Olya> Ok
[09:39] <jatt> which has an option to send the package changes to an email account
[09:39] <piliakis> however whenever I open Bnashee or Rhythmbox and close their windows they disappear into the non-existing volume applet menu of pulseaudio
[09:39] <Olya> ext3grep not work for me
[09:39] <Marvin_> im not guy who just works and expect help, so i ask if you are fine with a noob question...but im kinda newe here
[09:39] <piliakis> is there a way to stop that or work around it?
[09:39] <Olya> HOW RECOVER DELETED FILES ON EXT3?
[09:40] <llutz_> could someone pls remove that troll, thanks
[09:40] <auronandace> !undelete | Olya
[09:40] <jatt> hm procmail doesn't seem to have a configuration file?
[09:40] <shadowe989> !attitude| Olya
[09:40] <Ben64> Marvin_: yeah, just ask. you don't need to ask to ask or explain you're new or anything.
[09:40] <llutz_> jatt: do you have procmail installed?
[09:40] <dr_willis> time to use backups...
[09:40] <Marvin_> thanks ben...
[09:41] <jatt> llutz_: yes
[09:41] <Olya> Shadowe HELP PLEASE!
[09:41] <jpds> Olya: Мы, к сожалению, не знаем как помочь вам.
[09:41] <Marvin_> i just cant control a irc client
[09:41] <shadowe989> !helpme | Olya
[09:41] <Marvin_> actually i use a firefox addon to come here
[09:41] <Olya> jpds,.?
[09:42] <Marvin_> how can i connecd to other servers, exept freenode and quakenet ..
[09:42] <CaptAnon> Why can't I ads things to the menu bar
[09:42] <Ben64> Marvin_: the best way would be to get a real irc client, like xchat
[09:42] <llutz_> jatt: /etc/procmailrc  is the config
[09:42] <CaptAnon> Man unity has made It really hard to do anything
[09:42] <piliakis> I have removed pulseaudio from Ubuntu 11.10 and using ALSA together with xfce4-mixer for volume control
[09:43] <werder> Marvin_: xchat is very nice...
[09:43] <piliakis> however whenever I open Bnashee or Rhythmbox and close their windows they disappear into the non-existing volume applet menu of pulseaudio
[09:43] <piliakis> is there a way to stop that or work around it?
[09:43] <Marvin_> im damn shameful, but my actual os is windows 7...im also using ubuntu but just right now windows 7
[09:43] <Marvin_> xchat, thanks alot mate!
[09:43] <Marvin_> xchat also working here on ubuntu ?
[09:44] <jatt> llutz_: I see, ubuntu doesn't provide a sample file, the syntax seems complicated I will check it maybe I need to configure it so I get mail from root
[09:44] <werder> Marvin_: have no fear, xchat works on Windows and GNU/Linux
[09:44] <Marvin_> great
[09:44] <jatt> I mean to root
[09:44] <Marvin_> thanks werder!
[09:44] <CaptAnon> How do I add a launcher to unity?
[09:44] <werder> np
[09:44] <dr_willis> need xchat for android. ;)
[09:45] <Marvin_> i want to use it at both, because windows is only my gaming os
[09:45] <werder> dr_willis: that is so very much the truth.
[09:45] <Marvin_> android, easy...on my mobile phone :)
[09:45] <llutz_> jatt: add "root:  yourusername" to /etc/aliases and run "newaliases" as root then. "postfix reload"
[09:45] <dr_willis> better.. weechat on android
[09:45] <Ben64> my phone carrier blocks irc :(
[09:46] <Marvin_> weechat?
[09:46] <Marvin_> thanks
[09:46] <llutz_> dr_willis: whats wrong with andchat?
[09:46] <Marvin_> thanks all...you are damn helpful here
[09:46] <dr_willis> llutz_:  it has issues for my phone.
[09:46] <Marvin_> didnt expect this
[09:46] <werder> Ben64: those bastards.
[09:46] <llutz_> dr_willis: time to buy a new phone :)
[09:46] <Ben64> werder: exactly
[09:47] <Marvin_> dont buy a wasted apple ;-)
[09:47] <dr_willis> llutz_:  6mo till i can upgrade
[09:47] <werder> man, fsck phone contracts
[09:48] <jatt> llutz_: thank will try it now. I checked and mail to my username arrives correctly to localhost
[09:48] <llutz_> Marvin_: i said phone, not "hip girly gadget"
[09:48] <llutz_> jatt: so you are missing the root alias
[09:48] <dr_willis> llutz_:  going to get a pink samsung note..... ;)
[09:48] <Marvin_> samsung ftw...makes good phones
[09:49] <llutz_> dr_willis: send us a picture when you unbox it :) sry OT
[09:49] <Ranthor_Harwath> ubuntu unity is so weird
[09:49] <AirborneCalavry> Hi,cannot download SPE ( stani's Pthyon Editor) or any other Python IDE off Software centre, Cannot connect to Internet and i have changed sources,and keep saying after not trusted packages
[09:49] <werder> Marvin_: you mean except my intercept pos
[09:49] <CaptAnon> Does anyone here like unity?
[09:49] <Ranthor_Harwath> I really hate it
[09:49] <Marvin_> sorry, my english
[09:49] <fidel> CaptAnon: is that question any helpful?
[09:50] <Marvin_> im not your zoned like
[09:50] <Marvin_> yes
[09:50] <dr_willis> CaptAnon: works fine. with some tweaking
[09:50] <boba88> i have another question regarding drivers for projectors under linux? For example if i need a projector driver interface that I can use to control projectors from within an application i develop...
[09:50] <shadowe989> CaptAnon, I actually like it... as long as my programs I need work then I'm not picky.
[09:50] <Marvin_> area i mean*
[09:50] <koppe> I have a couple of external harddrives (USB), and get "systmedisc not found" if I try to boot with them connected.  Can I install GRUB on them in some way (eg. chainloader) so that I can boot Linux normally?
[09:50] <CaptAnon> fidel, how is that response helpful? How do you tweek it dr_willis
[09:50] <Ranthor_Harwath> the menus are on top windows are somewhere  else
[09:50] <boba88> do you know such sources?
[09:51] <fidel> CaptAnon: thats a question pointing out that you dont like unity. which is ok - but its not a helpful question ;)
[09:51] <koppe> I have Windows on /sda1 and Linux on sdb1.  GRUB is installed on sda (but finds stuff in sdb1)
[09:51] <Marvin_> werder? you dont accept pm? i just tried...
[09:51] <jatt> llutz_: thanks. it is working perfectly now after adding the alias. So ubuntu/postfix doesn't allow any direct mail to root? as security measure?
[09:51] <fidel> CaptAnon: there are alternatives like gnome3, xfce etc in case unity is not the solution you like
[09:51] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  dozens of guides out there. see webupd8 and askubuntu.com
[09:51] <CaptAnon> I remember getting ubuntu for the first time about 2 or 3 years ago, and the main think I liked was that I could customise everything, and now that is gone. and I don't know what is left
[09:52] <Ranthor_Harwath> jatt dont use postfix just mail command?
[09:52] <werder> Marvin_: sorry I'm on irssi and I still don't know how to work this thing
[09:52] <jatt> yes I use mail to test mails
[09:52] <Ranthor_Harwath> I want file edit view menus on the window not somewhere else
[09:52] <llutz_> jatt: yes, in general root should never read mails. they always should be forwarded to a common useraccount. its a security thing
[09:52] <jatt> MTA is postfix tho
[09:52] <AirborneCalavry> Hi,cannot download SPE ( stani's Pthyon Editor) or any other Python IDE off Software centre, Cannot connect to Internet and i have changed sources,and keep saying after not trusted packages
[09:52] <werder> Marvin_: am I not accepting pms?
[09:52] <Ranthor_Harwath> jatt : if it is local client, use mail command
[09:52] <Marvin_> oki, but then tell me how you mark my name at least, i always get a pop up when you message me
[09:52] <jatt> llutz: alright, thanks again
[09:53] <Marvin_> no...its says pm's are not allowed to this user
[09:53] <llutz_> jatt: postfix should have asked you at installation about this
[10:00] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress..
[10:00] <llutz_> AdvoWork: but if that is a usergroup, you better create a new group and add all users you need to have access to this group. chgrp directory to this new group too
[10:01] <dr_willis> 12.# gains a lot of things. patience.
[10:01] <shadowe989> yeah unity / gnome 3 is new stuff... give it time for the developers to switch over.
[10:01] <CaptAnon> Ranthor_Harwath,  I agree, it's like they took the bad stuff from windows and the bad stuff from ubuntu and mashed them together
[10:01] <Ben64_D3> take that verizon, got past your  irc block
[10:02] <werder> wait wtf just happened with all the users joining? Does everyone just script to join at 10 AM GMT?
[10:02] <burazrock> hi all,i have problems with my nvidia card.it is a g105m. I tryed to install ppa (xswat) to upgrade automaticcaly drivers but when install driver current, after grub the screen stands black. So i remove ppa and now driver nouveau is running, but when i try to install drivers proprietry with jockey it crashs during the installation and after reboot screen is black after grub...what can i do?if it is possible i would
[10:02] <burazrock> latest video driver.thanks
[10:02] <Ben64> !netsplit | werder
[10:02] <shadowe989> yeah netsplits happen
[10:02] <Ranthor_Harwath> CaptAnon: I checked the documentation, but can't be comfortable with the unity
[10:02] <CaptAnon> dr_willis, Why did they remove gnome 2, that worked great, and if you like unity things you could add docky which also worked, but unity is just horrible, it has no redeeming features
[10:03] <werder> Ben64: thanks mate!
[10:03] <dr_willis> gnome devs killed gnome2 CaptAnon
[10:04] <CaptAnon> I spend time learning how to use gnome how to set things up they way I like it, and then they just change it at the drop of a hat.
[10:04] <shadowe989> you can use gnome 2 on Ubuntu 11.10. Theres some tutorials on google.
[10:04] <shadowe989> Gnome is just a small part of ubuntu, it can be replaced like anything else.
[10:05] <CaptAnon> What is the main part of ubuntu?
[10:05] <dr_willis> gnome2 had issues also.. but thats basically OT.
[10:05] <fidel> CaptAnon: the point in sw is always - it will never stay forever the way you learn it at a certain point in time ;)
[10:05] <damo22> CaptAnon, the kernel and apt-get
[10:05] <CaptAnon> sw? fidel
[10:05] <fidel> and there are tons of alternatives to unity - and many ppl might even dislike the things unity brought ... but thats the way it is. use it - or get something else
[10:06] <fidel> sw = software
[10:06] <CaptAnon> ok apt-get works very well, pity there are no good programs to install with it
[10:06] <dr_willis> ranting gets you no where
[10:06] <damo22> CaptAnon, define good programs
[10:07] <Ranthor_Harwath> apt-get is really nice
[10:07] <shadowe989> yeah
[10:07] <CaptAnon> ones that are easy to use not buggy and serve there purpose
[10:07] <llutz_> CaptAnon: stop trolling
[10:07] <shadowe989> everything on the software center is on apt-get... software center is basically a frontend for apt-get.
[10:07] <fidel> CaptAnon: well then use another os and ...yeah stop trolling ;)
[10:07]  * dr_willis waits for an actual support question.
[10:08] <damo22> how do i automatically send a message to someone on irc when they come online ?
[10:08] <CaptAnon> I've been using ubuntu for the last 3 years, but unity has really really annoyed me and now I cant go back.
[10:08] <dr_willis> damo22:  depends on the irs client. or use msgserv  service
[10:08] <shadowe989> CaptAnon, you can go back. Google how to install gnome 2 on it.
[10:08] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead. time to move on.
[10:09] <fidel> CaptAnon: dude you can jump away from unity in several ways
[10:09] <fidel> we even mentioned those ways already
[10:09] <dr_willis> theres some gnome2ish thangs for gnome-shell in the works :)
[10:09] <CaptAnon> okok,
[10:09] <CaptAnon> will try
[10:09] <shadowe989> CaptAnon, Linux is a modular OS. If you don't like it, change it.
[10:10] <damo22> dr_willis, how do i use msgserv
[10:11] <dr_willis>    /msg msgserv help    or was it memoserv
[10:11] <dr_willis> people tend to overlook it.
[10:12] <llutz_> shadowe989: surprising news in a time people change distro because they dislike the default wallpaper :(
[10:12] <dr_willis> its memoserv   ;)
[10:12] <JLuc> Helllo
[10:12] <JLuc> why have PDFs different icons ?
[10:13] <JLuc> Sometime its Adobes A,
[10:13] <dr_willis> thumbnails.. perhaps
[10:13] <JLuc> sometime its a miniature
[10:13] <shadowe989> llutz, hahaha
[10:13] <JLuc> whatdo you mean dr_willis ?
[10:13] <dr_willis> if file is so big it uses the Adobe icon instead. to save loading a big file
[10:13] <dr_willis> less then 10mb -- thumbnail. over 10mb = use adobe icon
[10:13] <dr_willis> i think its 10mb.
[10:14] <dr_willis> its the same for other files also. its a gnome file manager setting
[10:14] <tralre> How many here are software developers?
[10:14] <JLuc> mine are all smaller than 10 Mo
[10:15] <JLuc> and the As are not smaller
[10:15] <dr_willis> may be 5mb or 1 mb.. i dont recall the #
[10:15] <damo22> tralre: i develop software, in my own tme
[10:15] <tralre> damo22: if you don't mind me asking, where are you from?
[10:15] <dr_willis> smaller A as in less resources needed.
[10:16] <hoijui> i want to print a PDF, but the print dialog is too large (x-axis/height), so the OK button is not on the screen anymore (netbook)
[10:16] <JLuc> i have a 5Mo PDF with miniature and a 1.8Mo with Adobes A
[10:16] <hoijui> (..seriously?)
[10:16] <dr_willis> hoijui:  use alt-click to drag the window up...
[10:16] <overclucker> JLuc: does alt + drag not work?
[10:16] <tralre> see im from the US, but i want to find a software developer job in Germany
[10:17] <llutz_> hoijui: just press enter
[10:17] <JLuc> yes it changes them into miniature overclucker
[10:17] <Seryth> If I wanted wine 1.3.36 rather than 1.3.28, (which is in the repo) would I have to build from source?
[10:17] <Ranthor_Harwath> Hello I am losing windows on the workspace
, does not work.. it does not allow me to pull the dialog out on top, over the border
[10:17] <werder> overclucker! a hyperactive chicken?
[10:17] <JLuc> then its just because the system has forgotten to miniature them !
[10:18] <Ranthor_Harwath> is there any other way to find it other than the alt tab
[10:18] <overclucker> werder: chicken with increased cluck rate
[10:18] <JLuc> AMOF i'm not sure i prefer miniature...
[10:18] <hoijui> llutz_, also does not work, cause the element on focus is the "choose printer" drop-box, not the ok button
[10:18] <Lint> dr_willis, he means modal dialog bound to its parent
[10:18] <JLuc> since there is a lot of different file types in that folder
[10:19] <Lint> new "feature" of metacity
[10:19] <JLuc> and the red A is clearyly visible
[10:19] <hoijui> (btw, i am using xubuntu)
[10:19] <hoijui> i mean.. the xfce desktop thing
[10:19] <llutz_> hoijui: write a bugreport, they should redesign their dialog-boxes
[10:19] <hoijui> to whom?
[10:19] <overclucker> JLuc: alt srag should minimize it too, but isn't the point to click a button? you maximize it again afterwards
[10:20] <Lint> hoijui, and you cannot drag it by holding down alt and dragging by empty regions in it?
[10:20] <hoijui> you know.. i have to print my pdf ;-)
[10:20] <overclucker> *drag
[10:20] <damo22> hoijui, you can press enter to print
[10:20] <hoijui> Lint, ahhh that works :D thanks
[10:20] <hoijui> damo22, no i can not, cause ok is not default on focus
[10:21] <damo22> hoijui, tab to different focus
[10:21] <hoijui> i tried draggign with alt+tittlebar, that did not work
[10:21]  * Lint hates clueless gtk developers
[10:21] <hoijui> yeah i can tab the focus
[10:21] <hoijui> but i have to do that blindly
[10:21] <llutz_> hoijui: lpr foo.pdf
[10:21] <Lint> every widget library that allows dialogs larger than screen should be shot
[10:22] <hoijui> it works for me now, using alt+drag on an empty part of the dialog
[10:22] <dr_willis> compiz  has a way to shrink a window down also.. but i dont know th ekey combo. and  i bet its not on by default
[10:22] <dr_willis> scale plugin perhaps?
[10:22] <Seryth> If I wanted wine 1.3.36 rather than 1.3.28, (which is in the repo) would I have to build from source?
[10:22] <ikonia> Lint: please keep your comments out
[10:22] <dr_willis> alt-click-anywhere drag.. should move..
[10:22] <hoijui> i cant use commadn line tool, cause the pdf is shown in a browser, and has stuff in it which i can not save (only print)
[10:22] <hoijui> well.. problem is notw solved for me.. bnut..
[10:22] <hoijui> that is surely no general solution
[10:23] <dr_willis> i use the alt-click drag thing on the netboolk all the time.
[10:23] <hoijui> no user would figure that out by himself
[10:23] <damo22> hoijui, wget httpofpdf  ; lpr pdf
[10:23] <CaptAnon> on the software center the comments say that compiz causes 11.10 to crash, can anyone confirm this?
[10:23] <hoijui> hmm.. yeah it woudl have been handy in other situations too
[10:23] <dr_willis> ive had similer issues on windows.
[10:23] <overclucker> I haven't needed alt+drag since i changed to a tiling wm
[10:23] <dr_willis> 'kdesizer' on windows gives it a similer alt-click-drag feature
[10:24] <hoijui> that should be an extra window button (next to close, minimize,mazimize)
[10:24] <dr_willis> badly coded apps/dialogs are bad. :)
[10:24] <hoijui> where.. when the window size can not be changed, and does not fit on the screen, one can force-add a scrollbar
[10:25] <hoijui> well.. thanks all of you :-)
[10:25] <dr_willis> years of computer science and r&d and GUI design,, and we still have cruddy dialog boxs way to many times.
[10:25] <hoijui> mm
[10:25] <dr_willis> I remember some better on my Amiga then what i see on windows and linux at times.
[10:25]  * dr_willis is old.
[10:27] <mr_pause> Hello
[10:27] <hoijui> :D
[10:27] <lukasz_> hello :-)
[10:27] <overclucker> developers should get over the notion that windows must have a fixed minimum size
[10:27] <tralre> windows is especially horrible with some of their windows having a tiny MAXIMUM size
[10:27] <tralre> like for setting environment variables
[10:27]  * tralre shakes head
[10:28] <hoijui> yeah... problem is that many devs today use dual-24-inch screens when deving
[10:28] <hoijui> maybe
[10:28] <lolcat^> I use a 46" LED for deving
[10:28] <mr_pause> Does anyone here managed to connect to a virtualbox "internal network" using 11.10 ?
[10:28] <damo22> O_o
[10:28] <hoijui> YOU are to blame!
[10:28] <tralre> me too!
[10:28] <tralre> i never watch tv. bought an hdtv for computer
[10:29] <damo22> lolcat^, what is your native resolution
[10:29] <lukasz_> hey, I've encountered a strange problem - grub installs fine, but my laptop won't boot from hard drive, but when I boot from live CD and then select boot from first hard drive, grub's menu appears without problems, does anybody know what could be the problem?
[10:29] <lolcat^> damo22: 1080p
[10:29] <lolcat^> 70hz
[10:30] <damo22> lolcat^, what is 1080p in pixels
[10:30] <overclucker> lukasz_: likey cause would be grub not properly installing to mbr
[10:30] <mr_pause> Or, if noone got that precious knowledge, i'm looking for a way to reset networking the hardest way possible (networking restart doesn't work)
[10:30] <lolcat^> damo22: 1920x1080 I belive
[10:31] <Seryth> I think I removed the ubuntu software center O.o
[10:31] <lolcat^> mr_pause: Pull the plug, and restart
[10:31] <MasterOfDisaster> mr_pause: um... reboot?
[10:31] <Seryth> woopsie
[10:31] <damo22> lolcat^, my mbp does that
[10:31] <lolcat^> mr_pause: Or if you want to do something difficult: reset it with a bat, then reasemble it
[10:31] <dalek_> Is it impossible to send files between clients on a LAN using empathy if one is running empathy 2.34.0 and the other is using empathy 2.32.1?
[10:31] <tralre> heh
[10:31] <gener1c> just installed proftpd
[10:32] <mr_pause> lolcat^: I mean, maybe reset configuration or something
[10:32] <gener1c> i am trying to configure quotas, already made a ftpquota.limittab
[10:32] <mr_pause> Because it worked before, but not anymore
[10:32] <mr_pause> So something must've fucked up somewhere
[10:32] <gener1c> and added a line to the /etc/proftpd/proftpd.confid as such
[10:33] <gener1c>  QuotaLimitTable file:/usr/local/ftpd/ftpquota.limittab
[10:33] <overclucker> lukasz_: do you get a grub menu at without cd?
[10:33] <gener1c> but  the quota wont work
[10:33] <dalek_> is the file transfer part of empathy 2.34.0 not backwards compatible with earlier versions?
[10:33] <overclucker> *at all
[10:33] <gener1c> added  QuotaLimitTable file:/usr/local/ftpd/ftpquota.limittab
[10:33] <tralre> How can I see a list of all the channels on FreeNode if it says it won't let me because it might flood?
[10:33] <lukasz_> overclucker: nope, BIOS says that it failed to boot from hard drive
[10:33] <ahhughez> can someone recommend the best way to split a 12GB mpeg into 2GB archive volumes for transportation? should I just tarball it?
[10:33] <llutz_> !alis | tralre use to find specific channels
[10:34] <gener1c> added  QuotaLimitTable file:/usr/local/ftpd/ftpquota.limittab to my proftpd file restarted the server but when i log in as a user and run "quote SITE QUOTA" i get "no quota in effect"
[10:34] <tralre> ubottu: thx
[10:34] <lukasz_> overclucker: I thought I forgot to set boot flag on system partition, but it is on, so I don't know what's the matter...
[10:34] <overclucker> lukasz_: from terminal sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[10:34] <mehdi> hello every one ??
[10:34] <tralre> hi mehdi
[10:34] <ihavnoth> mehdi: hello
[10:34] <llutz_> ahhughez: split -b 2G foo.mpg
[10:35] <damo22> overclucker, he might need to mount it first and tell grub-install where the root directory is
[10:36] <lukasz_> damo22: I've booted the system on hard drive, but with using live cd in order to access grub
[10:36] <overclucker> damo22: true, he did say he use cd to boot into the system though
[10:39] <lukasz_> damo22: /dev/sda5 ( I don't know if you're still here )
[10:40] <goebbels> exit
[10:40] <ahhughez> llutz - sweet thank you I will try that :)
[10:40] <ahhughez> llutz - how can I put it back together?
[10:40] <llutz_> ahhughez: cat foo* >> bigfoo.mpg
[10:41] <damo22> lukasz_, do you have a separate /boot partition?
[10:41] <Seryth> This is a weird question; how can I install the software center from terminal? I had a huge clean up yesterday, but lost some other programs by accident...
[10:41] <lukasz_> damo22: nope, only / and /home are seperated
[10:41] <damo22> ok
[10:41] <werder> goebbels: seriously bro, change your name.
[10:41] <llutz_> ahhughez: md5sum the mpg-file before and after, check sums to be sure it is ok
[10:42] <damo22> lukasz_, so youve booted a livecd?
[10:42] <damo22> lukasz_, or you booted the hdd using the cd
[10:43] <lukasz_> damo22: I've used Live CD, selected option to boot from first hdd so that it enabled be to access grub menu
[10:43] <onasis> is there a way to install ubuntu studio as an upgrade to 11.10?
[10:43] <lukasz_> damo22: when I tried to boot from hard drive, BIOS said that the attempt failed.
[10:43] <ahhughez> llutz, now you're getting me worried.. how could it possibly get corrupted during this process?
[10:44] <lukasz_> damo22: ( I don't know if it is important, but I'm using Xubuntu )
[10:45] <Seryth> This is a weird question; how can I install the software center from terminal? I had a huge clean up yesterday, but lost some other programs by accident...
[10:45] <bkerensa> Seryth: sudo apt-get install software-center
[10:45] <llutz_> ahhughez: "things happen..."
[10:45] <Seryth> bkerensa: aah, I was trying sudo apt-get install ubuntu-software-center :P
[10:45] <Seryth> thanks
[10:46] <dalek_> Is it impossible to send files between clients on a LAN using empathy if one is running empathy 2.34.0 and the other is using empathy 2.32.1?
[10:46] <dalek_> is the file transfer part of empathy 2.34.0 not backwards compatible with earlier versions?
[10:46] <damo22> lukasz_, so /dev/sda5 is mounted on / and youve booted it?
[10:46] <lukasz_> damo22: yup, pretty much
[10:46] <damo22> lukasz_, sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[10:46] <KrisDouglas> Seryth, if you are not sure of the name you can use apt-cache search "keyword" to get the name of the app you want. You can also press tab if you are not sure of the full package name,
[10:47] <KrisDouglas> Seryth, by tab I mean apt-get install softw <tab> will autocomplete a few packages for you to choose from.
[10:47] <Seryth> KrisDouglas: Thanks, didn't know that
[10:48] <KrisDouglas> Seryth, :)
[10:48] <onasis> hello anyone?
[10:49] <werder> hello
[10:49] <onasis> ah! thought for a minute i had a ignore on me or something
[10:49] <werder> nope. ask away.
[10:50] <onasis> is there a way to install ubuntu studio as an upgrade to 11.10?
[10:50] <ikonia> onasis: standard upgrade process
[10:50] <ikonia> !upgrade > onasis
[10:50] <lukasz_> damo22: it said no errors reported, I'm going to give it a try and boot it without cd :-)
[10:50] <c31r2g> hi ikonia
[10:50] <goebbels> werder: sorry. this is my friends shell and he gave me this name so it was defaulted in irssi
[10:51] <onasis> ok well i dont know much about ubuntu
[10:51] <onasis> thats why im asking
[10:52] <werder> onasis: not really. Ubuntu studio is a weird hybrid of gnome2 and xfce right now
[10:52] <ganteng> hallo
[10:52] <werder> Pekka: its ok. history is a biatch
[10:52] <Pekka> true true
[10:52] <onasis> cause when i put the dvd in of ubuntu studio it does come up with an upgrade option but then comes up with an error
[10:52] <JLuc> Hello.
[10:53] <JLuc> Is there a way to use wildcards character in the searchbox in nautilus ?
[10:53] <gener1c> the file exists (i made it) and ftpquota shows my configs like they should look in that file , but i just cant seem to be able to make this bugger use it...
[10:53] <werder> onasis: you can download the packages in Ubunut Studio in the Software Center but you can't upgrade
[10:53] <ganteng> kenalan donk
[10:53] <gener1c> added  QuotaLimitTable file:/usr/local/ftpd/ftpquota.limittab to my proftpd file restarted the server but when i log in as a user and run "quote SITE QUOTA" i get "no quota in effect"
[10:54] <lukasz_> damo22: nope, it still said it failed to boot -.-
[10:54] <onasis> ah thanks werder
[10:54] <werder> yep
[10:54] <onasis> thats all i need to know
[10:54] <damo22> lukasz_, you sure bios says boot HD0 not HD1
[10:55] <onasis> gonna probably backup everything and start again anyways as im gonna have a treble boot osx/win7/ubuntu studio
[10:55] <werder> onasis: not bad, not bad at all.
[10:55] <damo22> onasis, probably better to use osx as host and run others in VM
[10:56] <werder> onasis: also, speaking of historical figures, are you named after aristotle onassis?
[10:56] <onasis> i like ubuntu, its really nice
[10:57] <karim_> ubuntu is the best os
[10:57] <onasis> i just got the nickname when i went to greece, as per jackie onasis swimming near the onasis island
[10:57] <werder> onasis: pretty cool.
[10:58] <onasis> only thing i would like to see with ubuntu is more support from audio apps, protools, ableton live, reason etc
[10:58] <onasis> and some really pro video editing software
[10:58] <ranonx> admin?
[10:58] <damo22> onasis: complain to avid for not having linux release
[10:58] <krasnozer> is it possible to disable the notifications bubbles ?
[10:58] <onasis> damo22 i wont waste my breath i think! lol!
[11:00] <karim_> i would have known a software who allow me to stock the pass word  put in my computer
[11:01] <werder> karim_: keepass
[11:03] <qw-Russian> hello
[11:03] <qw-Russian> help me please
[11:03] <onasis> is there a reliable way to backup a disk to dvd on ubuntu?
[11:04] <lukasz_> damo22: I only have one hdd in my laptop
[11:04] <werder> onasis: not sure what you mean
[11:04] <DJones> !ask | qw-Russian
[11:05] <qw-Russian> i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS after installation i am upgrade my system from 12.04 but after upgrade system is not started maybe started but i am not see write me system in the monitor
[11:05] <qw-Russian> help me please
[11:06] <ganteng> yang cwek kenalan donk
[11:06] <werder> onasis: are you trying to put files and stuff on a dvd?
[11:06] <llutz_> qw-Russian: #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:06] <ganteng> hallo
[11:07] <DJones> qw-Russian: If you've upgraded to the development version of 12.04, can you ask the question in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for it, until the final version is released in April
[11:07] <craws> =¯¯¯¯hi¯¯¯¯=
[11:07] <craws> =¯¯¯¯whats ?¯¯¯¯=
[11:07] <Ben64> craws: stop with the weird characters
[11:07] <craws> =¯¯¯¯my ubuntu is ok¯¯¯¯=
[11:07] <llutz_> craws: stop that please
[11:07] <Ranthor_Harwath> whats tath
[11:07] <Ranthor_Harwath> sorry what is that 'things'
[11:08] <craws> =¯¯¯¯lammer in irc usage autocolor¯¯¯¯=
[11:08] <llutz_> craws: stop that
[11:08] <Ben64> craws: speak normally without the lame unicode art
[11:09] <craws> =¯¯¯¯jgaf¯¯¯¯=
[11:09] <c31r2g> Ben64 what is this unicode art u said???
[11:09] <Ben64> c31r2g: look at the characters around what craws is saying
[11:09] <c31r2g> yes
[11:10] <c31r2g> how do they appear
[11:10] <Ben64> he types them or something
[11:10] <llutz_> childish mirc user i'd guess
[11:10] <c31r2g> LOL
[11:10] <Ranthor_Harwath> it is a plugin for mirc
[11:10] <Ranthor_Harwath> I assume
[11:10] <Ben64> correct, its called ircap
[11:11] <damo22> its called "=" + String + "="
[11:11] <werder> I don't see nothin.
[11:12] <llutz_> however its called, its unwanted here
[11:14] <gener1c> come on
[11:14] <qw-Russian> help please ^(
[11:14] <gener1c> no one uses proftpd on ubuntu ? :(
[11:14] <llutz_> qw-Russian: #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:15] <qw-Russian> i am sit but not answer for me
[11:15] <llutz_> qw-Russian: you won't get help here for anything 12.04 related
[11:16] <gener1c> added  QuotaLimitTable file:/usr/local/ftpd/ftpquota.limittab to my proftpd file restarted the server but when i log in as a user and run "quote SITE QUOTA" i get "no quota in effect"
[11:16] <llutz_> qw-Russian: you installed alpha-software, you broke stuff, you lose
[11:16] <qw-Russian> me answer quote : <Fai1ure> qw-Russian: install kubuntu 10.04 again, and don't upgrade to 12.04 :)
[11:16] <qw-Russian> i have one question ^
[11:16] <deskduck> Hello and good evening people, I have a functioning conky script http://pastebin.com/p3b6FMA5 i just want to add seconds and want to place time below date, any suggestions? It is better if you can give me a modified script via pastebin.
[11:16] <qw-Russian> and is it possible how  without a refixturing ?
[11:17] <gener1c> i didnt install alpha i didnt break anything and the proftpd channel is dead , plus google wont help me
[11:17] <gener1c> qw-Russian: go to ubuntu+1
[11:17] <qw-Russian> gener1c, i am sit but not answer
[11:18] <boba88> does anyone know of an SDK for controlling projectors?
[11:18] <gener1c> i am sit aswell but no answer anywhere
[11:18] <boba88> what image to be projected etc
[11:18] <gener1c> pico projector sdk
[11:19] <gener1c> picop
[11:19] <camer0n> hi there, i screwed up and accidently "rm /etc/*" rather than "m etc/*". I can no longer sudo, can some one please help
[11:19] <boba88> gener1c: will it support proxima ultralight x350?
[11:19] <crizzy> camer0n: recover from backups
[11:19] <gener1c> google it
[11:19] <gener1c> no idea here
[11:19] <camer0n> crizzy:  I don't believe i have backups of the /etc files
[11:20] <gener1c> id backup the firmware and try it , whats the worst that could happen
[11:20] <crizzy> then you're in trouble
[11:20] <Ben64> camer0n: well you broke it... time to reinstall!
[11:20] <gener1c> no!
[11:20] <gener1c> he can use a livecd
[11:20] <Ben64> camer0n: by the way, why would you want to "m /etc/*"
[11:20] <camer0n> gener1c: have tried googling, but i apparently need to limit to single user and cannot perform the command: "sudo: unknown uid: 1000"
[11:20] <gener1c> and cp the /etc file from it
[11:21] <camer0n> Ben64: oops, "rm etc/*
[11:21] <Ben64> gener1c: that will only partially work
[11:21] <camer0n> "
[11:21] <llutz_> gener1c: that won't work for most things
[11:21] <gener1c> thats better than reinstall tho :P
[11:21] <Ben64> camer0n: well why were you running that as root?
[11:22] <gener1c> on the other had its not
[11:22] <gener1c> on a second thought*
[11:22] <llutz_> camer0n: you can try to use a testdisk live-cd and use photorec to get your files back.
[11:22] <Ben64> it will be missing shadow, group files and stuff
[11:22] <camer0n> Ben64: some how i a folder got copied to a weird place, and in the folder, there was a copy of the /etc. i was just trying to restore it back. i think a script has gone awry
[11:22] <Ben64> won't be able to log in as his user anymore
[11:22] <gener1c> anyways does anybody here have a clue on how to make file quotas work on proftpd?!
[11:22] <deskduck> Can I request you to share a conky script with me?
[11:23] <boba88> gener1c: it is not free i guess :)
[11:23] <Ben64> camer0n: well in the future be very careful with sudo and root permissions
[11:23] <karim_> i dont understand the topic?
[11:23] <camer0n> llutz_:will photorec restore any file?
[11:23] <llutz_> camer0n: yes
[11:23] <camer0n> Ben64: yeah, it was a slip in typing.
[11:23] <llutz_> camer0n: at least, it tries
[11:23] <deskduck> Can I request you to share a conky script with me?
[11:24] <camer0n> llutz_: i assume it's a once of as i imagine i won't be able to log back in after i shut down? i am currently only connected via ssh
[11:24] <purplefool> let me know if i am in the wrong chat plz.  have an ENGTS450 graphic card, but when installed i get no gui.  it hangs for a bit and then tells me no chipset was found.  how do i correct this?
[11:24] <llutz_> camer0n: true
[11:25] <deskduck> Can I request you to share a conky script with me?
[11:25] <camer0n> i have a raid setup for other data.. how do i ensure that i don't lose it?
[11:25] <Ben64> camer0n: did you do rm -fr or just rm?
[11:25] <camer0n> Ben64: just rm
[11:26] <camer0n> ben: camer0n@soap:~$ sudo rm /etc*
[11:26] <camer0n> Ben64: camer0n@soap:~$ sudo rm /etc*
[11:26] <Ben64> btw, nobody else run that ^
[11:27] <camer0n> oops... it was /etc/*
[11:27] <Ben64> camer0n: you can restore from livecd, then manually fix shadow and groups
[11:27] <camer0n> Ben64: is that using the photorec that was mentioned before by llutz ?
[11:28] <Ben64> camer0n: nah, just pop in livecd and copy /etc/* over
[11:28] <kapz> Hi I have two Ubuntu 11.10 desktops connected via Wired LAN through a router but I am getting a transfer speed on only 4 MB/S :( The pc's are only 15 feet away...connecting through nautilus FTP server
[11:29] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: is it sata? and which files
[11:29] <rabbi1> how to mount a pendrive in terminal ?
[11:29] <camer0n> Ben64: much appreciated. i will download the image now
[11:29] <camer0n> thanks everyone else that helped
[11:29] <kapz> Yes modern dekstops with SATA drives...transferring my movie files
[11:29] <Walther> rabbi1: lsusb to list the drives
[11:30] <Ranthor_Harwath> kazp: sudo su mii-tool
[11:30] <onasis> does anyone think any of the big audio companies will release linux versions, avid, apple, propellerheads, steinberg?
[11:30] <rabbi1> Walther: thankyou, before that, as soon i inserted the drive it sais sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through " what is this ?
[11:30] <Ranthor_Harwath> are they 100 mbit or smt
[11:31] <kapz> Ranthor_Harwath, i get this output: Unknown id: mii-tool
[11:31] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: sorry sudo mii-tool please
[11:31] <Walther> rabbi1: mkdir mountpoint && sudo mount /dev/sdc mountpoint
[11:31] <onasis> is the audio side of linux/ubuntu superior to windows and osx?
[11:32] <Walther> onasis: depends on the hardware and the drivers
[11:32] <rabbi1> Walther: ok
[11:32] <onasis> walther so is there a recomended setup?
[11:33] <c31r2g> do everyone use here ubuntu??
[11:33] <Ben64> c31r2g: this is an ubuntu channel, so probably
[11:33] <Walther> c31r2g: most probably
[11:33] <Walther> onasis: what are your aims?
[11:33] <kapz> Ranthor_Harwath, eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
[11:33] <onasis> ive had little to no experience with ubuntu on the audio side, but ive heard people talk about latency in ubuntu is an issue?
[11:34] <onasis> my aims is to have a rock solid recording system
[11:34] <onasis> and a rock solid video editing suite
[11:34] <damo22> onasis, in my opinion you cant get better than protools and all the waves plugins but you cant run them in linux
[11:34] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: on both nodes? and I assume you are transfering big files, not some little conf. files
[11:35] <onasis> damo22 yes i agree i have a protools hd system running with a hackintosh
[11:35] <damo22> onasis, i hope you are running the vanilla kernel
[11:35] <kapz> Ranthor_Harwath, they are MOVIE files so yeah they are big
[11:35] <onasis> but it is obvious to me that everything that osx is, it has got from linux
[11:35] <in0cula> hi, i have AWUS036H wifi card USB, when i'm connecting to AP for few seconds i download at full speed but the the speed drop and remain low speed , is there a way to set the driver to work at max speed?
[11:35] <damo22> onasis: it is freebsd renamed
[11:36] <onasis> yes, i run myhack
[11:36] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: maximum speed on 100mbit is like 12 MB per seconds
[11:36] <rabbi1> how can i recover X from the terminal ?
[11:36] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: it should be ftp client/server related or there is a bottleneck on the disks or network.
[11:36] <damo22> onasis: you already have the pci card for protools its not supported in linux why bother with it
[11:37] <electrosnake> ciao
[11:37] <electrosnake> !list
[11:37] <onasis> damo22 this is all stuff i dont know, thats why im here asking
[11:37] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: you can install systat stuff and check the i/o with iostat command
[11:37] <kapz> Ranthor_Harwath, it's a simple network of only two PC's! through a pronet wireless router however the pc's are connected by wired lan...how can I improve?
[11:38] <damo22> onasis, you already have protools HD what more do you want? lol
[11:38] <onasis> just dreaming of a linux specific protools setup
[11:38] <onasis> damo22 a more solid system! lol!
[11:38] <rabbi1> Walther: sir, if i can restore my X, i don't need to do all this and take back up, is there anyway i can do it ?
[11:38] <ikonia> onasis: mac is the best pro-tools platform you can get.
[11:38] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: are you 100% percent sure, if the data is over wired. how is the route table
[11:38] <damo22> ikonia, word
[11:39] <kapz> Random832,
[11:39] <Ranthor_Harwath> you should ensure the transport over the wired
[11:39] <kapz> Ranthor_Harwath, I am 100% sure about the hardware setup....but I don't know jack about the software side..thanks
[11:39] <damo22> onasis, if you want rock solid protools performance, buy a real mac and dont rip any plugins buy everything
[11:39] <c31r2g> hi kapz
[11:40] <craws> =¯¯¯¯cia friends fuck lamma¯¯¯¯=
[11:40] <kapz> hello c31r2g
[11:40] <gparted> gparted ignores my usb external hard drive....why is that?
[11:40] <Emerald_Fianna> Hi all, two quick questions. I have a hp laptop that's a few years old and I installed 11.10 on it. Now the battery says it's full but when I disconnect the mains it says that the battery is critical, I don't know what could be causing this?
[11:40] <Ranthor_Harwath> kapz: you can use somekind of network bandwith meter stuff to check the nw util
[11:40] <c31r2g> nice to see ya kapz
[11:41] <kapz> robin?
[11:41] <openbees> how to add force quit option in ubuntu 11.10
[11:41] <openbees> ?
[11:42] <shadowe989> that craws guy was in the ##Linux channel too...
[11:42] <damo22> onasis, i know for a fact that using non standard mac kernels can screw up stability
[11:42] <Emerald_Fianna> Can anyone point me in the right direction for my battery problem?
[11:42] <shadowe989> umm
[11:42] <shadowe989> askubuntu.com or the ubuntu forums
[11:42] <Ranthor_Harwath> emarald : I dont think that is a ubuntu problem, your battery seems to be dead
[11:42] <shadowe989> im not good with linux laptops... sorry =(
[11:44] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath, I dunno about that tbh Linux doesn't have all the apci features like Windows. Cann. said next update they'll improve battery life.
[11:44] <Emerald_Fianna> Ranthor_Harwath: I only installed 11.10 yesterday and before that I was running windows 7 and the battery was giving me about two hours?
[11:45] <Emerald_Fianna> shadowe989: so they'll be improving it on next update?
[11:45] <shadowe989> Emerald_Fianna, with regards to power savings Ubuntu 12.04 will use less power but
[11:46] <shadowe989> Emerald_Fianna, I'm not sure if that will fix you're issue. You should ask on a forum where a lot of people will see your question.
[11:46] <Nu> Hi I'm VERY new to Ubuntu. I'm using the easy Firewall, but every time I close the program, it turns off. Any advice?
[11:46] <rabbi1> my ubuntu is in Matrix's Train Station, help me out ... please.........
[11:46] <shadowe989> Emerald_Fianna, There might be a setting or a patch you can use. Laptops and Linux... Always had a little trouble.
[11:46] <Ranthor_Harwath> I dunno, my laptop is ok with ubutun,even better that XP. 7  is another story
[11:46] <kapz> moving on another question, I have ubuntu 11.10 and I installed gnome-shell on it, now all is fine except that the window has only close button, maximize and minimize are not visible, help please
[11:47] <Emerald_Fianna> shadowe989: Thanks, I'll look online and see what I can find.
[11:48] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath, Yea its due to the drivers and such... thats why I want to buy a linux laptop instead of get a windows one so I know the drivers are in good order.
[11:48] <shadowe989> Emerald_Fianna, Good luck
[11:48] <kbotnen_> Hi, is there any documentation on how I can interact with the indicator-session? I want to turn the gear-icon red after Ive run some code.
[11:49] <Nu>  I'm using the easy Firewall, but every time I close the program, it turns off. Any advice?
[11:49] <ikonia> Nu: close which program ?
[11:49] <Ranthor_Harwath> is there any linux laptops other than US
[11:50] <Ranthor_Harwath> here none
[11:50] <ikonia> Ranthor_Harwath: what ?
[11:50] <Nu> ikonia The Ubuntu firewall
[11:50] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath, I have a list, give me a sec.
[11:50] <ikonia> Nu: ubuntu firewall runs in the background
[11:50] <Nu> When I close the window, it turns off
[11:51] <Ranthor_Harwath> in my country there is no linux laptop anymore, once there were asus ee pc
[11:51] <Nu> If I open the program, it says off, then I turn it on, and close the window, and it goes off by itself
[11:51] <ikonia> Nu: it shouldn'd do, ufw is not a "gui", there is a gui to manage it but ufw is "iptables" running in the background
[11:51] <ikonia> Ranthor_Harwath: download ubuntu and put it on your laptop
[11:51] <donbro> hello, how do I change my bluetooth DUN apn?
[11:51] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath,  http://mcelrath.org/laptops.html
[11:51] <rabbi1> Walther: cannot create any directory, Real-only file system
[11:52] <Ranthor_Harwath> ikania :  the topic is not that, I am already using ubuntu on laptop
[11:52] <kapz> I have ubuntu 11.10 and I installed gnome-shell on it, now all is fine except that the window has only close button, maximize and minimize are not visible, help please
[11:52] <Walther> rabbi1: cd ~/ && makedir mountpoint && mount /dev/sdc ~/mountpoint
[11:52] <kapz> should I uninstall metacity?
[11:52] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath, heres a place that sells ubuntu laptops that I been looking at. http://www.system76.com/
[11:53] <YanGM> hello
[11:53] <donbro> hello, how do I change my bluetooth DUN apn?
[11:53] <YanGM> how can I put this Tp-link to work on linux? http://www.tp-link.com.br/products/details/?categoryid=232&model=TL-PS310U
[11:53] <Ranthor_Harwath> shadowe989: not to  my country, but thanx
[11:54] <CAYE> SHA PEÑA
[11:54] <Nu> Thanks ikonia
[11:54] <shadowe989> Ranthor_Harwath, aww
[11:54] <CAYE> QUIERES ROYO EN ESPAÑOL
[11:54] <YanGM> anyone can help me?
[11:54] <jatt> !es | CAYE
[11:55] <donbro> ikonia how do I change my bluetooth apn?
[11:55] <jatt> !root
[11:55] <ikonia> donbro: your what ?
[11:55] <CAYE> LEASE
[11:55] <ikonia> donbro: why are you asking me ?
[11:56] <Ranthor_Harwath> donbro: there are lots of conf. file /etc/bluetooth check them
[11:56] <CAYE> PLEASE
[11:56] <YanGM> help!
[11:56] <ikonia> enough
[11:56] <ikonia> if you need help - ask a question
[11:56] <karim_> please help me?
[11:56] <ikonia> if you need help - ask a question
[11:56] <YanGM> I asked 2 times
[11:56] <CAYE> TUENTI
[11:56] <ikonia> YanGM: then saying "help" won't get you any further, if someone knows they will respond
[11:57] <Myrtti> !es > CAYE
[11:57] <YanGM> how can I put this TP-Link http://www.tp-link.com.br/products/details/?categoryid=232&model=TL-PS310Uto work on linux, 3rd time
[11:57] <shadowe989> CAYE, se puede pedir en Inglés? Yo no sé español.
[11:57] <YanGM> " http://www.tp-link.com.br/products/details/?categoryid=232&model=TL-PS310U to work
[11:58] <karim_> i want understand ubuntu os?
[11:58] <ikonia> YanGM: is that device supported in linux
[11:58] <ikonia> karim_: https://help.ubuntu.com - have a read
[11:58] <shadowe989> karim_, best way to learn is to jump in head first
[11:58] <YanGM> I printed a doc using cups, but I can't use with my hd
[11:58] <YanGM> my external hd
[11:59] <CAYE> qieres rollo
[11:59] <shadowe989> karim_, I forced my self to get Linux certified but one way to learn quickly is to remove windows / mac. You learn much faster when you drop the windows / mac way of thinking.
[11:59] <rabbi1> Walther: cd~/ : No such file or directory
[11:59] <shadowe989> karim_, now the only OS I use is Linux by choice.
[12:00] <CAYE> kiero follar
[12:00] <CAYE> contigo zorra
[12:00] <Myrtti> CAYE: English, please.
[12:00] <CAYE> ablar
[12:00] <Guest91256> Hello guys
[12:00] <shadowe989> CAYE, Por favor, hable Inglés.
[12:00] <shadowe989> !es | CAYE
[12:01] <CJRamze> Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem with PCI 56K modem. if I look at the network cars in Ubuntus GUI it only shows the onboard ethernet. I've run LSPCI and LSHW and it shows the modem (I tried with a USB modem and it showed it there also) But I dont really know how to use it to dial. GnomePPP shows Cannot open /dev/modem no such modem or directory. and when I enter its setup and get it to auto detect the modem it says it cant find the modem. If anyone cou
[12:01] <CJRamze> ld help it'd be great as this is the only thing stopping me from only using Windows on my Work PC
[12:01] <CJRamze> Pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/840275/
[12:01] <YanGM> argh
[12:02] <CAYE> kiero rollo
[12:02] <karim_> ok i
[12:02] <zvacet> karim_:  see http://ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[12:03] <donbro> I cant see any bluetooth file where I can edit the apn option!
[12:03] <YanGM> Is there any custom firmware for this tp-link TL-PS310U? Because linux isn't founding my external hd connected to it.
[12:03] <ikonia> YanGM: is this device supported by linux yes/no
[12:04] <donbro> I cant see any bluetooth file where I can edit the apn option! Ranthor_Harwath
[12:04] <YanGM> originally no, but printer function works on linux
[12:04] <ikonia> YanGM: this is not your printer - this is a print server
[12:04] <ikonia> YanGM: is this print server device supported on linux
[12:04] <YanGM> I know
[12:04] <YanGM> NAS
[12:05] <CAYE> I LOVE
[12:05] <donbro> I want to change the apn Ranthor_Harwath
[12:05] <ikonia> YanGM: ok, so is this print server device supported on linux yes/no
[12:05] <YanGM> no
[12:05] <ikonia> YanGM: then it won't work. Discussion over
[12:05] <YanGM> but if I plug a printer, linux can print
[12:06] <ikonia> YanGM: you are not using the printer - you are using the print server
[12:06] <YanGM> I know
[12:06] <donbro> can someone tell me how to change apn of bluetooth dialup networking in ubuntu 11.04?
[12:06] <ikonia> YanGM: it doesn't matter if the printer is supported or not, if the print server is not
[12:06] <YanGM> if I put my c4280 on this NAS linux can print on it
[12:06] <YanGM> but I want to share my external hd
[12:06] <ikonia> YanGM: it's a print server, not a hard disk server
[12:07] <YanGM> it is a usb sever
[12:07] <irdx> it's a NAS/Printserver
[12:07] <YanGM> "The TP-LNK MFP and Storage Server TL-PS310U is ideal for sharing USB connected devices across a home or office..."
[12:07] <ikonia> I'm not seeing how this is an ubuntu issue - the device is not supported by linux
[12:08] <MisterPet> Hi Guys
[12:08] <shadowe989> MisterPet, Hello :)
[12:08] <kapz> I have ubuntu 11.10 and I installed gnome-shell on it, now all is fine except that the window has only close button, maximize and minimize are not visible, help please
[12:08] <smookey> we used to be able to resolve our windows domain shares with the help of smbclient (from lucid repo), since upgrade to win 2008 servers the smbclient wont resolve anymore. Is there any other tool to resolve the names (without going up to samba 3.6 or something)
[12:08] <ikonia> kapz: that's how gnome shell works
[12:08] <YanGM> If it can print using tp-link, why it can't see my hd?
[12:08] <ikonia> kapz: minimise/maximise buttons are not there
[12:09] <kapz> ikonia, but I have seen them on other distro...
[12:09] <feisar> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu on my new netbook and I'd like to encrypt a couple of partitions, /tmp, /home, /swap etc. I was thinking of using luks with cryptsetup etc. is that a supported way of doing things in Ubuntu?
[12:09] <CJRamze> kapz: thats how its meant to be I think. Its been like that on mine from day one. You dont need to minimize anything and you double click the task bar to maximise
[12:09] <ikonia> kapz: you're not using another distro
[12:10] <kapz> ikonia, I am talking about MInt, which is based on ubuntu, I have ssen them in it
[12:10] <shadowe989> what exactly is the difference between "gnome shell" and gnome? couldn't he just apt-get the gnome meta-package and fix this?
[12:10] <ikonia> kapz: mint is different
[12:10] <donbro> anyone?
[12:10] <MisterPet> Hi
[12:10] <YanGM> gnome shell is the visual made from gnome team for gnome
[12:10] <ikonia> kapz: it doesn't matter what other distros are doing, gnome shell does not have maximise/minimise to bar functionality as part of it's configuration, that is not how gnome shell is designed to work
[12:10] <Dr_willis> gnome shell is a 'shell' that runs on top of the gnome3 enviroment
[12:10] <MisterPet> i have a question..
[12:10] <smookey> Anyone with a clue? :)
[12:10] <shadowe989> got it thanks. :)
[12:10] <MisterPet> hey anybody can help me?
[12:10] <kapz> ikonia, ok I agree with that, but if they are there then can I enable them in ubuntu as well?
[12:10] <ikonia> MisterPet: just ask
[12:11] <shadowe989> yeah no need to ask to ask.
[12:11] <ikonia> kapz: mint is a diferent distro with different desktop setup
[12:11] <MisterPet> i need know a "easy" language, to start learn . example assembly , C .
[12:11] <gparted> gparted recognizes my usb external hd's size as 10% of its real size...any idea why is that hapenning?
[12:11] <ikonia> MisterPet: try asking in #defocus ##programming or ##linux
[12:11] <jatt> lua
[12:11] <MisterPet> but i want desenv in linux.
[12:11] <MisterPet> lua ?
[12:11] <ikonia> MisterPet: try asking in #defocus ##programming or ##linux
[12:11] <jatt> yes
[12:11] <kapz> ikonia, I am talking about gnome-shell on mint...but anyway is there any workaround to bring them back? Thanks
[12:11] <MisterPet> thx for our repply
[12:11] <shadowe989> MisterPet, Python is what I started on then expanded onto C. OT sorry.
[12:12] <ikonia> kapz: ask mint
[12:12] <kapz> I am on ubuntu!
[12:12] <ikonia> kapz: ask mint how they did it
[12:12] <ikonia> kapz: then see if that software/technique is compatible with Ubuntu
[12:12] <MisterPet> lua is a languaage based in linux?
[12:13] <kapz> oh ok.. I doubt if I can ask Q about other distros on Mint channel...
[12:13] <ikonia> MisterPet: try asking in #defocus ##programming or ##linux
[12:13] <smookey> MisterPet: Try python :)
[12:13] <fidel> MisterPet: this channel is focused on offering ubuntu-specific help
[12:13] <MisterPet> Ok ikonia.
[12:13] <ikonia> kapz: you're not asking about other distros
[12:13] <ikonia> kapz: you're asking how mint uses maximise/minimse with gnome shell
[12:13] <fidel> more or less - thats why this channel isnt the best place to ask programming-focused questions
[12:13] <ikonia> kapz: that is relevent to mint
[12:13] <MisterPet> Sorry.
[12:13] <MisterPet> thx for help ^
[12:13] <kapz> ok thanks ikonia :)
[12:13] <ikonia> MisterPet: it's not a problem
[12:14] <fidel> MisterPet: keep checking channel topics before you start asking ;)
[12:14] <fidel> good luck with your search
[12:14] <MisterPet> Ok.
[12:14] <CJRamze> Heres a question, How do I work out what port my 56k modem is on... (For example) /dev/ttys0
[12:14] <MisterPet> its my first time in IRC, sorry for any.
[12:14] <donbro> Hello, how can i change bluetooth dial up networking apn on my ubuntu 11.04?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> CJRamze:  its a real serial modem?
[12:14] <ikonia> MisterPet: it's not a problem at all
[12:14] <CJRamze> Its PCI
[12:14] <jatt> lsof
[12:15] <Dr_willis> CJRamze:  you could as root do a 'echo "ATDT" > /dev/ttys0      and see if the phone picks up.
[12:15] <Dr_willis> CJRamze:  i dont recall much else from my serial modem days.
[12:15] <CJRamze> Dr_willis, Thanks I'll try that now
[12:16] <Dr_willis> dont do a 'ATDT 1111' :) that can call the emergancy  services.
[12:17] <Dr_willis> You may want to check out other AT codes for the old modems.
[12:18] <CJRamze> Dr_willis, Its a PCI one. Basically I cant get Ubuntu to see it in the networking window so I tried Ppp config in terminal to setup the connection manually. It scanned for the PCI modem and couldn't find it so now I have to manually select the modem port in /dev/
[12:19] <Pumpkin-> ATZ: Reset, ATA: Answer, ATH/+++: Hangup, ATDT $number: Dial Tone, ATDP $number: Dial Pulse. That is as far as my memory goes.
[12:20] <ZeusCool> hi, i've tried to customize vim with a colorscheme and I've kind of broke it, then i've used: sudo apt-get remove vim, and vim-tiny and sudo apt-get install vim, but now i have just plain vim, no colorschemes at all
[12:20] <mido> hi 2 all
[12:20] <prasad_> hey. can anyone help me in installing unity?
[12:20] <ZeusCool> any help on how to restore vim with colorschemes?
[12:20] <jrib> ZeusCool: explain how you tried to customize vim *exactly*
[12:20] <Gentoo64> ZeusCool: no idea how you broke it, did you edit vimrcm or use :colorscheme
[12:21] <Gentoo64> vimc*
[12:21] <Gentoo64> vimrc
[12:21] <Gentoo64> :s
[12:21] <melvincv> donbro, I use Bluetooth GPRS, but it's very unreliable.
[12:21] <melvincv> oops :D
[12:21] <ZeusCool> I've edited vimrc, and changed desert.vim to somethingeles.vim
[12:22] <prasad_> i removed unity and replaced it with gnome shell. Now when i want to switch back to unity apt-get install unity installs unity but i cannot find any softwares in dash
[12:22] <ZeusCool> after some perl errors appeared, i've changed it back to desert.vim (the colorscheme) and still got the errors
[12:22] <ZeusCool> so I figured out an uninstall / install would restore it
[12:22] <jrib> ZeusCool: you're sure you made no other change?  Pastebin your vimrc and the errorsl
[12:22] <melvincv> prasad_, can't we have both Unity and Gnome-shell and choose between them at login? Any advantage to removing Unity?
[12:23] <Dr_willis> prasad_:  reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package perhaps.
[12:23] <Dr_willis> 11.10+ you can have unity and gnome shell both installed and pick from the login screen.
[12:23] <Gentoo64> ZeusCool: after you uninstall vim, rm -rf /etc/vim
[12:23] <Gentoo64> then reinstall
[12:24] <ZeusCool> Gentoo64 >> I've done that
[12:24] <Ranthor_Harwath> how can use gnome shell but not unity, I really dont like unity
[12:24] <prasad_> melvincv, there is no use in removing unity, but as i could not get a few things working in unity, i decided to remove it after a few days. now the new lenses are looking cool, and i want to get back
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Ranthor_Harwath:  what version of ubuntu you got?
[12:24] <kapz> Duh...gnome-tweak-tool was the answer....!
[12:24] <ZeusCool> in my /etc/vim i don't have anylonger vimrc, but i have gvimrc
[12:24] <jrib> ZeusCool: you're editing the system-wide vimrc in /etc/vim/ ?  Why aren't you using your user's local ~/.vimrc?
[12:25] <prasad_> Ranthor_Harwarth to install gnome shell, you can find it in ubuntu software centre
[12:25] <ZeusCool> jrib >> Because I didn't know that :)
[12:25] <melvincv> prasad_, Are you on precise pangolin?
[12:25] <jrib> ZeusCool: in the future, do that.  For now, purge and then reinstall vim-common
[12:25] <Ranthor_Harwath> dr_willis 11.04 i think
[12:26] <prasad_> no
[12:26] <jrib> ZeusCool: actually just purge vim-common and then install your full vim package of choice (since this will get removed)
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Ranthor_Harwath:  if you want to use unity. you really should upgrade to 11.10 - unity has been much improved.. and in 12.xx its getting even better.
[12:26] <prasad_> melvincv iam still on 11.10
[12:26] <rabbi1> if i install another ubuntu on the same system, will i be able to get the saved data from the old ubuntu installation
[12:26] <ZeusCool> jrib >> thanks, will try now and see how it goes
[12:26] <Dr_willis> rabbi1:  yes. if you dont format the partions.
[12:26] <Ranthor_Harwath> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[12:26] <melvincv> I am waiting for 12.04, till then I'm with 11.04 and I'm a fan of Gnome2
[12:26] <gafei_> #www.ubuntu.com.cn
[12:27] <Dr_willis> Gnome2 is dead. :) but there is some gnome2-ish theme/projects that use gnome-shell in the works.
[12:27] <prasad_> presently iam using gnome 3 along with cinnamon
[12:27] <Ranthor_Harwath> Dr_Willis: I dont want to use unity, there is no task bar, I lose windows all the time
[12:27] <rabbi1> Dr_willis: will see to that, hopefully i won't ...
[12:27] <Dr_willis> If i want an old-skool desktop - ill stick with Lubuntu.
 yes. Cinnamon is good in implementing gnome 2
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Ranthor_Harwath:  you can add a dock/panel to it if you want a task bar.
[12:28] <ZeusCool> I get this now: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:28] <jrib> ZeusCool: pastebin full input and output (but I have to leave)
[12:28] <melvincv> how stable is MATE for a 'Gnome2 look' project?
 I got some tweaks with compiz, it is not user friendly, yet
[12:29] <Abooda> melvincv: any experience/reviews of Xfce?
[12:29] <prasad_> for me mate is good. but if you want a few more animations better go for cinnamon
[12:29] <palnj> Hey guys, bit of a problem here
[12:29] <prasad_> mate is good for older hardware
[12:29] <ZeusCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840305/
[12:30] <melvincv> Abooda, Yes, I used it for a month, didn't find it as useful as Gnome2
[12:30] <shadowe989> Abooda, it works... lightweight. Nothing fancy but nothing bad.
[12:30] <ZeusCool> jrib >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840305/
[12:31] <palnj> Trying to compile the D-Bus libraries (1.4.16) and I have expat already installed as a dependency, but I get a "make: *** [all]: Error 1" thingy when I do "bash ./configure && make"
[12:31] <Abooda> melvincv: any particular problems? I am thinking of switching purely because I find my present Gnome shell draining on memory, and KDE is an even worse black hole for resources
[12:31] <jrib> ZeusCool: 1) these errors are likely not related (they already existed) 2) don't use sudo if you are already root
[12:31] <melvincv> I'm yet to try Lubuntu, but since LXDE is even Linus choice...
[12:32] <jrib> ZeusCool: 3) you didn't do what I said :)  (remove vim-common).  But I have to leave now, sorry.  You should debug your issues with those tex packages first.  Ask here for more help about that
[12:32] <shadowe989> Abooda, xfce or lxde are both good. I'm running lxde atm in a VM but I stick with gnome for my main host.
[12:32] <Gentoo64> melvincv: i thought it was xfce once.. why copy him lol
[12:32] <prasad_> lxde is bit faster than xfce
[12:32] <ZeusCool> jrib >> Thanks for the help!
[12:32] <melvincv> Abooda, I'd suggest Lubuntu.
[12:32] <prasad_> but xfce is packed with features
[12:33] <Dr_willis> palnj:  you did install the build-essential package? and all needed -dev packages>
[12:33] <StepNjump> My optical drive is not found anymore.. used to work fine before... What should I do please?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> StepNjump:  put in a data disk, check dmesg output, try mounting it by hand.
[12:33] <melvincv> prasad_, what extra features, over Lubuntu?
[12:34] <shadowe989> I got a dvd from Linux Pro mag. with 5 versions of ubuntu with xfce and lxde so I'm just messing around with them on VM's. At a glance though I think I like LXDE the most (aside from gnome).
[12:34] <StepNjump> an audio CD wouldn't work Dr_willis ?
[12:34] <Gentoo64> StepNjump: any disc
[12:34] <melvincv> Abooda, since you are concerned about performance, like me, try Lubuntu
[12:35] <StepNjump> Oh ok...thanks Gentoo64 & Dr_willis
[12:35] <Abooda> melvincv: I might give it a shot ... but what are the downsides to Lubuntu?
[12:35] <Gentoo64> Abooda: no unity.. no nice effects
[12:36] <camer0n> Ben64: have just booted with the livecd, you mentioned something about fixing the  shadow and groups
[12:36] <shadowe989> Abooda, yeah basically what he said, its still ubuntu, just not gnome. Your programs will work as they have.
[12:36] <camer0n> Ben64: just unsure what that means/involves
[12:36] <Ranthor_Harwath> Dr_willis : thnx for the info, after some googleing I found out
[12:36] <Ranthor_Harwath> classicmenu- indicator
[12:36] <melvincv> Abooda, I'm still checking it out, so far so good... I need to know what is there in XFCE that's not there in LXDE?
[12:37] <Ranthor_Harwath> really really nice
[12:37] <Gentoo64> Abooda: lubuntu should come with a different set of default (lxde) apps which are lighter then gnome ones, but nothings stopping you installing whatever apps you wany
[12:37] <palnj> Gentoo64: one of the many reasons I love Linux
[12:37] <palnj> Fully customisable
[12:37] <palnj> I've always been an Arch fan
[12:37] <Gentoo64> melvincv: xfce has its own compisitioner its more gnome 2 like as well
[12:38] <melvincv> And Linux gives new life to old computers :)
[12:38]  * feisar just got a samsung netbook for my birthday, booted windows 7 starter once and is now installing Ubuntu!
[12:38] <crizzy> trashcan gives new life to old computers imo :P
[12:38] <mmovchin> feisar :)
[12:38] <dibri> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-ldap.html <- who knows what to change the attributes *into* for step 4?
[12:38] <palnj> melvincv: too right, I have an old Packard bell from 2001 . Had windows ME
[12:38] <palnj> Stuck puppy Linux on it and it worked like a charm ;)
[12:39] <feisar> mmovchin: going smoothly so far : )
[12:39]  * Lint notes that Windows 98 has the more functionality than lxde desktop and runs on 32MB RAM
[12:39] <palnj> crizzy: lol wouldn't that be recycling bin?
[12:39]  * Gentoo64 disagrees
[12:39] <StepNjump> Gentoo64 & Dr_willis here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/840313/
[12:40] <feisar> i was tempted to go with 12.04 alpha due to the unity improvements but resisted...
[12:40] <melvincv> what's the minimum RAM for Lubuntu?
[12:40] <StepNjump> I have no idea how to read this
[12:40] <Gentoo64> StepNjump: looks like your being flodded with ufw logs so thats not much use
[12:41] <StepNjump> nothing came up then Gentoo64
[12:41] <MisterPet> :D
[12:41] <Gentoo64> nah it might have done
[12:41] <Dwade09> how do i fix it where my speakers shut off when i plug in my headphones? i tried all the alsa mixer's and i tried switching the analog output to analog headphones but i still hear sound in both.
[12:41] <StepNjump> Weird cuz the CD drive opens up as normal.. It just stopped working one day for no reason
[12:41] <Dr_willis> StepNjump:  try mounting it by hand?
[12:41] <StepNjump> how?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> !mount
[12:41] <c31r2g> |^ like this
[12:42] <Dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/MAKEADIR
[12:42] <c31r2g> LOL
[12:42] <StepNjump> No I know how to mount Dr_willis  but I don't know what it's called
[12:42] <Ranthor_Harwath> I want an update of evolution mail cleint for ubuntu distro. How can I report that?
[12:42] <Dr_willis>  /dev/cdrom  is a link niormallyt
[12:42] <StepNjump> I can't find it in fdisk either Dr_willis
[12:42] <Gentoo64> Dr_willis: better to use /mnt for manual mounts
[12:42] <njaxx> Is Xubuntu any good?  - sorry guys, not liking Unity and it will soon be time to upgrade my trusty laptop running 10.10
[12:43] <kyubutsu> thunderbird fails authenticating with new password. login failure to server. solution?
[12:43] <Lint> njaxx, xfce nearly stopped development. it's like gnome2, but much more crude
[12:43] <StepNjump> Dr_willis: I see only sdax in fdisk -l
[12:43] <njaxx> Lint: If I don't like Unity, what are my options?
[12:43] <shadowe989> njaxx, its fine but also look at lbuntu.
[12:44] <Gentoo64> njaxx: xfce, kde, lxde and openbox have ubuntu versions
[12:44] <shadowe989> s/lbuntu/Lubuntu
[12:44] <Lint> njaxx, gnome3 is very nice
[12:44] <kyubutsu> njaxx: go try it and come back when you positively know you dont like it
[12:44] <shadowe989> yeah just put it on a usb drive and try it live.
[12:44] <palnj> njaxx: you could always install Precise Pangolin when it's released and smack GNOME 2/3 on it
[12:45] <dibri> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-ldap.html <- who knows what to change the attributes *into* for step 4?
[12:45] <StepNjump> Dr_willis: I don't see cdrom in /dev
[12:45] <njaxx> kyubutsu: been using Unity on my work laptop for months - I positively know I don't like it.
[12:45] <palnj> Then again, the beta versions are still pretty damn sturdy
[12:45] <kyubutsu> njaxx: then why you ask with an IF statement?
[12:45] <melvincv> Gentoo64, which is the openbox version?
[12:45] <palnj> njaxx: you do get used to it, as with everything, but oh we'll, personal preference FTW
[12:45] <camer0n> during boot, does much else load after "* Checking battery state,,, "? I am guessing raid?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> StepNjump:  it may be some /dev/sd# or /dev/sr#
[12:46] <Gentoo64> melvincv: crunchbang
[12:46] <Gentoo64> idk if crunchbang is official ubuntu or not
[12:46] <StepNjump> ah!!!
[12:46] <kyubutsu> not
[12:46] <Myrtti> Gentoo64: no, it's not
[12:46] <Gentoo64> ij
[12:46] <Gentoo64> ok
[12:46] <palnj> Gentoo64: not official, but it is a derivative
[12:46] <camer0n> #! is light! i was running it on an old thinclient :P
[12:46] <palnj> It's a pretty good district, nevertheless
[12:47] <palnj> *distro
[12:47] <Gentoo64> its no lighter than lxde imo
[12:47] <Gentoo64> basically the same
[12:47] <palnj> Gentoo64: too right
[12:47] <melvincv> Gentoo64, thanks, I'll check it out.
[12:47] <palnj> But lubuntu will run on a machine with 128mb ram, and I know that cause I use it
[12:48] <camer0n> Gentoo64: i was just using the CLI though
[12:48] <shadowe989> Meh as long as you can access the terminal in ubuntu I don't care, gnome3/unity works fine for me. GUIs are easy to use in Linux compared to other things like BIND9.
[12:48] <palnj> shadowe989: terminal FTW, makes things less complicated
[12:48] <palnj> I
[12:48] <palnj> I Honestly don't understand why those
[12:49] <palnj> New to the Linux scene are afraid of that black screen with the green text
[12:49] <shadowe989> hahahaha
[12:49] <Gentoo64> lol green text
[12:49] <palnj> The media stereotype that to hacking far too often
[12:49] <camer0n> Gentoo64: i was trying to run a mumble server on crunchbang. Unfortunately mumble used more memory than was available (128mb - not upgradable)
[12:49] <Gentoo64> camer0n: ok
[12:49] <palnj> Gentoo64: I like the old monochrome theme , I use it on my ttys
[12:50] <palnj> camer0n: unlucky for you but I know the feeling
[12:50] <Myrtti> I know it's fun to discuss about the merits of CLI and different user interfaces and all, but could we return back to the topic of Ubuntu support? you can continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic - it's nice, quiet and calm there right now
[12:50] <palnj> SDR ram is so outdated its become far too
[12:50] <palnj> Expensive and rare that's it's practically impossible to find
[12:50] <kyubutsu> thunderbird fails authenticating with new password. login failure to server. solution?
[12:51] <palnj> kyubutsu: use IMAP :P
[12:51] <palnj> That's all I got
[12:53] <camer0n> i have had some data loss (mentioned about 1.5 hours ago) in /etc. i have been able to restore some of the lost files from a livecd. just having trouble logging in now using my username/password.Is any of the user data stored in /etc?
[12:53] <shadowe989> yeah
[12:53] <Sivik> why when I try and blacklist a module it doesn't leave it out when it boots?  I'm trying to use realtek r8168 instead of r8169 that is loaded with the kernel
[12:53] <llutz_> camer0n: sure /etc/passwd (shadow, groups
[12:53] <Walther> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without any desktop at all?
[12:54] <llutz_> !mini | Walther
[12:54] <camer0n> Walther: Ubuntu Server has only the CLI
[12:55] <Walther> I want to have a install of Ubuntu with maximum possible battery life, hence CLI only
[12:55] <camer0n> llutz_: how would i readd those users? adduser to the live cd, then copy across?
[12:55] <shadowe989> camer0n, /etc/ is where all you're important configuration files are stored, /etc is where the system looks for its settings. Applications will look in . files in you home directory.
[12:55] <llutz_> camer0n: idk if the live-cd allows that, try it
[12:56] <shadowe989> I don't think that would work the /etc/passwd file would have special users for a live cd, when u use the live cd u auto login the ubuntu user
[12:57] <shadowe989> then theres the issue of the shadow passwords too. You would need to manually modify that stuff to get it working. I'd just backup and fresh install
[12:57] <shadowe989> thats the easy way ofc...
[12:58] <kyubutsu> thunderbird fails authenticating with new password. login failure to server. solution?
[12:58] <kyubutsu> reinstall thunderbird   :(
[12:58] <shadowe989> I generally recommend the easy way over rebuilding tons of config files by hand. Your choice haha but the latter option can be a learning experience
[12:59] <shadowe989> kyubutsu, whos your provider? try logging in a gmail account to make sure its not user error and to rule out thunderbird is at fault.
[12:59] <kyubutsu> sigh, password is good.
[12:59] <camer0n> llutz_: where does the password get stored, and if i copied it across from one system to another, would it still decrypt it the same?
[12:59] <Lint> why ubuntu doesn't support windows network oob in 2012?
[13:00] <shadowe989> /etc/shadow
[13:00] <llutz_> camer0n: /etc/shadow
[13:00] <shadowe989> !samba | Lint
[13:00] <Dwade09> I have an Asus K60IJ laptop, I am new to linux and was forced to come to linux when my windows os crashed on me and the reinstall disks would not work, Every time I plug in my headphones I have sound coming from my speakers as well, I messed with sound settings under output I see Analog Output and Analog Headphones seems no matter what one I pick sound comes from both.I also installed Gnome-Alsa Mixer and Alsamixergui and Pulse audio control as well
[13:00] <Dwade09> as Pulse audio mixer and pulse audio volume control, I have messed with all of them and none of them will fix the issue or give me a run around on manipulating the sound card.I am running Ubuntu 11.10x32Please can someone help me?
[13:00] <Lint> on each upgrade i need to add a secret undocumented setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:00] <kyubutsu> shadowe989: i would try deleting the user account on thunderbird if it was that obvious to do..  :-/
[13:00] <Lint> and on each upgrade my custom file is LOST
[13:01] <Lint> default samba configuration in ubuntu cannot connect to windows computers
[13:01] <iceocean> howdy, anyone able to help be with an httpd config issue? :D
[13:01] <iceocean> I am having trouble getting my Virtual Hosts working properly. My configuration, followed by an explanation of the problem can be found here: (http://tinypaste.com/16fbd403)
[13:01] <shadowe989> kyubutsu, some providers do not allow imap or pop3 email. theres more to it than username and password.
[13:02] <Lint> i recently updated to 11.10 and guess what, config file was replaced AGAIN
[13:03] <llutz_> Lint: if you changed configs, you'll be asked to keep the old one or install the new one on updates#
[13:03] <dgtl> hi there
[13:03] <shadowe989> Lint, in the enterprise we do something called "patch management", we don't upgrade unless we need to and it works, and we don't upgrade until we have it working. Its a good practice. Thats why we like LTS versions over the bleeding edge. Sorry for you samba issue's but thats not exactly a ubuntu issue. =/
[13:03] <awaad> I want to make my machine adhoc for my mobile
[13:04] <Lint> llutz_, i was not, that i s an issue
[13:04] <kyubutsu> shadowe989: you failed to parse my question. the account was fine. i changed password using website. now thunderbird does not accept new password as valid.
[13:04] <awaad> I choose Network Settings, then Wireless, then "Use as Hotspot"
[13:04] <awaad> But no thing happens
[13:04] <dgtl> i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with ubuntu-classic, i have a slight problem with "workspaces", i have defined 3 workspaces in the workspace-applet for gnome-panel, but when i click on another workspace just nothing happens, no switch to the workspace i clicked on, no messages in xorg.log
[13:05] <Lint> shadowe989, i'm not enterprise, i'm a human being ubuntu is a linux for. sorry, but I would prefer everything working without intervention. and how it isn't ubuntu problem if samba is in by default?
[13:05] <dgtl> i came here because ive got no idea what the problem is
[13:05] <camer0n> llutz_: shadowe989: thanks... just copied the files across after doing an adduser.... will see what happens now
[13:05] <n3uron_> i installed oneiric on external hdd, and it randomly crashes with superblock error. would it be smarter to that external hdd as ide from bios or leave it as AHCI ?
[13:05] <Lint> and nautilus has network browser module by default too??
[13:05] <Walther> Is there a way to see the remaining battery time on CLI?
[13:06] <camer0n> llutz_: shadowe989: YAY! I have been able to login :D
[13:06] <shadowe989> camer0n: nice!
[13:06] <charles_____> n00b question: is the best version of ubuntu the latest version of ubuntu?
[13:06] <camer0n> AND  i have sudo back :D
[13:06] <Walther> charles_____: yes, if you're thinking about the features. No, if you're looking for ultimate stability
[13:06] <Lint> charles_____, what is 'best'?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> Walther  yesd, with acpi, moment
[13:06] <shadowe989> charles_____, It can be, I would recomend trying both live. LTS is the most stable, but the latest would have newer features.
[13:07] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[13:07] <Lint> if you're looking for bug fixed, software in ubuntu is not the latest release mad by developers
[13:07] <melvincv> Walther, I guess byobu has a battery notification, not sure
[13:07] <charles_____> shadowe989: by
[13:07] <charles_____> oops
[13:08] <charles_____> shadowe989: by "live" you mean run off the cd?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> Walther  try acpi -b
[13:08] <norbi> hello!
[13:08] <Lint> also most developers do not backport fixes to a previous version that is in ubuntu repository
[13:08] <norbi> ive installed ubuntu in a virtual machine
[13:08] <shadowe989> charles_____, yes just burn the newest and the LTS to cds or USB drives and just try them without installing to see which you like the most.
[13:08] <shadowe989> or what norbi said and use virtual machines.
[13:09] <norbi> now after power off, and starting again i get some EFI shell
[13:09] <norbi> what is that? never met it until now
[13:09] <Walther> How do I "burn" the minimal cd image onto a usb drive? Startup disc creator doesn't accept the mini.iso
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Walther  try unetbootin
[13:09] <norbi> Walther: yea unetbootin will do
[13:10] <Walther> Is there a bootloader in it, if I just dd it?
[13:10] <suporte> oi
[13:10] <suporte> oi
[13:10] <suporte> oi
[13:10] <nice11> kaddy
[13:10] <suporte> oi
[13:10] <FloodBot1> suporte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <ikonia> suporte: please stop that
[13:11] <nice11> hello
[13:11] <llutz_> Walther: cat mini.iso|sudo tee /dev/sdX
[13:11] <irdx> suporte: oi
[13:11] <ikonia> nice11: hi
[13:11] <ikonia> irdx: please don't add to it
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Walther  Walther maybe this is wat you want http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:11] <irdx> ikonia: ok, sry :P
[13:11] <shadowe989> Lint, whats your question? I gave you advise on patch management to prevent this issue. Bleeding edge is not user friendly.
[13:11] <Kiborg> Hi
[13:11] <BrandonBolton> Hello everyone, I am having a problem using ndiswrapper and my wireless adapter. I can not get it to work at all.
[13:12] <Lint> my question is why ubuntu ships samba in unusable state
[13:12] <Kiborg> One question, when is thunderbird 10 comming to ubuntu?
[13:12] <camer0n> where does root store it's trash?
[13:12] <suporte> oi
[13:12] <ikonia> Lint: samba is perfectly usable
[13:12] <shadowe989> agrees with ikonia, samba works perfect for me everytime.
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Lint  "why" is a philosophical question, this is the support channel
[13:12] <kyubutsu> i see a bug in there.. the password dialog is mixing up both email account and server address in one 'line' .. sigh
[13:13] <Walther> llutz_: haha, I eriously doubt that would work
[13:13] <Lint> ikonia, it cannot connect to windows 7 machines
[13:13] <ikonia> Lint: yes it can
[13:13] <Lint> or XP machines with 'high' security
[13:13] <ikonia> Lint: I'm connected to Windows 7 machines with my 10.04 desktop (not at this exact moment)
[13:13] <llutz_> Walther: who cares
[13:13] <norbi> guys, boot failed, pls help...
[13:13] <llutz_> Walther: *buntu iso from 11.10 are hybrid-iso, so it does
[13:13] <shadowe989> This is the ubuntu support channel. We are not the devs. We're just like other ubuntu user volunteering to help others.
[13:14] <shadowe989> !attitude | Lint
[13:14] <Lint> ikonia, it cannot do it because it needs NTLMv2 authentication enabled, which it does not
[13:14] <Lint> ikonia, you need to fix config file manually
[13:14] <ikonia> Lint: ok, so "update" the config file with the options you need
[13:14] <shadowe989> What do you need help with Lint?
[13:14] <ikonia> Lint: that's why it's called a "configuration file" you configure it to your needs
[13:15] <Nu-Newbie> Hi. could someone give me a link to a website which is purely security related? I want to learn to build an air-tight secure system.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> NTLM is a win issue
[13:15] <shadowe989> Nu-Newbie, I could recommend a book on security. Security+ certified here.
[13:15] <bazhang> Nu-Newbie, try ##security
[13:15] <BrandonBolton> Nu-Newbie, There is no such thing as a perfect air-tight system. It will always have some flaw in it.
[13:16] <Nu-Newbie> Thank you shadowe bazhang & Brandon
[13:16] <feisar> Lint: connecting Ubuntu to a Win 7 share should work no trouble, I do it every day at work. Connecting Win 7 to a Samba share raises a few other issues but if you use the ip address in the smb address rather than the domain name that's an easy work around
[13:16] <Lint> ikonia, do you realise that samba is unusable in its default configuration if only wista/win7 machines are in network
[13:16] <shadowe989> BrandonBolton, yep its best to expect the system has already been breached. lol gotta love security theories
[13:16] <kyubutsu> whew, found a 'delete account' option in thunderbird..
[13:16] <ikonia> Lint: do you release it's not
[13:17] <ikonia> Lint: do you release you can enable it in the configuration file.
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Nu-Newbie  no one's safe for Anonymous
[13:17] <ikonia> Lint: what exactly is the problem here ?
[13:17] <Nu-Newbie> MonkeyDust, I was hacked by Anon thats why I want it
[13:17] <llutz_> Lint: after updates you always would find your old config as "smb.conf.dpkg-dist". if not, file a bugreport against dpkg, which has to keep an eye on modified config-files
[13:17] <hermitage> hi, how can i get the command line output page by page ?
[13:17] <shadowe989> !attitude | Lint
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Nu-Newbie  don't try to be smarter than Anonymous
[13:18] <BrandonBolton> shadowe989, and to use sneakernet whenever possible.
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: you can pipe it into less
[13:18] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, lets stay on topic
[13:18] <Nu-Newbie> I'm not trying to be smarter, just safe
[13:18] <Nu-Newbie> Safe as possible
[13:18] <shadowe989> BrandonBolton, haha yea
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: you can then use pgup, pgdn, cursor up and cursor down to scroll, is this what you mean?
[13:19] <suporte> hellow
[13:19] <suporte> good morning
[13:19] <Lint> problem is that it's 2012, everyone is on win7, and that setting in samba file is not documented anywhere in ubuntu documentation
[13:19] <ikonia> Lint: win 7 is supported out of the box
[13:19] <BrandonBolton> Has ndiswrapper been working with anyone with 10.04.3? I can not get it to work for me with my Linksys AE1000 wireless adapter.
[13:19] <ikonia> Lint: I'm using it out of the box
[13:19] <hermitage> thanks <ActionParsnip>  that is what i ment, so i just use the command pipe ? sorry but i'm new
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Lint: I can give you my samba config file if you want
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Lint: fyi, my girlfriend is on vista, not win7
[13:19] <Lint> ActionParsnip, I'm already accustomized to fix it manually on each new release
[13:19] <Kiborg> Couldd I get a quck answer when is Thunderbird 10 comming to ubuntu? I cant find any dates online...
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: e.g.    run:   dmesg    and the text whizzes by. Run:  dmesg | less    and you can scroll. Use ESC to quit
[13:20] <shadowe989> Kiborg, no idea sorry. =/
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Kiborg  i use thunderbird, ok
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Lint: so where is the issue?
[13:20] <chenbiao> hello
[13:20] <shadowe989> suporte, good morning
 thanks :)
[13:20] <Lint> for it to work oob, you need to change default security settings on win7
[13:20] <suporte> hello
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: very useful command :)
[13:21] <mint> how to set topic when creating a new channel in any server?please
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Lint: thats due to Win7 using a revise samba, which afaik is not published
[13:21] <ikonia> Lint: it works out of the box
[13:21] <bazhang> mint ask in #freenode
[13:21] <suporte> alguem fala brasileiro?
[13:21] <melvincv> hermitage, or dmesg | more
[13:21] <shadowe989> mint,  for irc? /topic hi (if you're a op)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !br
[13:21] <bazhang> suporte, #ubuntu-br
[13:21] <mint> thanks bazhang
ahihi,  yes it is
[13:21] <mint> thanks shadowe989
 thanks
[13:22] <shadowe989> mint, no problem :)
[13:22] <Lint> ikonia, lemme chack
[13:22] <mint> and im c31r2g
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Lint: samba on win7 uses a different authentication mechanism, if it was published you'd have no issue but Microsoft are as they are so you get issues.
[13:23] <cypher-neo> When did the topic in #ubuntu switch to win 7?
[13:23] <shadowe989> lol
[13:23] <c31r2g> cypher-neo i wondered the same
[13:23] <Sivik> cypher-neo, its always been about windows.  lol
 but what if i have to do a server search command where first i need to enter a pwd than i want to see the response of the server page by page ?
[13:24] <shadowe989> this is the new windows 7 support channel, I guess you didn't get the memo.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: its a user with samba issues under ubuntu connecting to Win7. So the topic never changed
[13:24] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, Oh...
[13:24] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, Tell him to reformat the Win 7 computer to Ubuntu. Then he'll have no problems at all. lol
[13:24] <shadowe989> hah
[13:24] <Sivik> lol
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: if the command outputs any text you can pipe to less, any text at all :)
[13:24] <ikonia> I don't find that funny,
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: win7 may be needed (games and such)
[13:25] <c31r2g> hi again ikonia
[13:25] <c31r2g> so good to see ya again ikonia
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: e.g.  sudo find / | grep -i data | less     etc
[13:26] <BrandonBolton> Has ndiswrapper been working with anyone with 10.04.3? I can not get it to work for me with my Linksys AE1000 wireless adapter.
[13:27] <c31r2g> does this commands listing never end or what ActionParsnip "e.g.  sudo find / | grep -i data | less"
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: if you run:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper    does it help?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> c31r2g: it will end eventually
[13:28] <c31r2g> wow thats too long too know
[13:28] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, I will try that right now.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> c31r2g: its just a sample command, it doesn't really do much useful
[13:28] <Lint> ikonia, no, I cannot connect without having ntlm2 enabled
[13:28] <ikonia> Lint: I am using it out the box
[13:28] <c31r2g> like what?ActionParsnip
[13:28] <ikonia> c31r2g: you realise this is ubuntu support, not mint support
[13:29] <c31r2g> ikonia im a newbie just curiosity over learning things and eventually i'll settle to one or the other distro..:)
[13:29] <ikonia> c31r2g: then please ask in the mint support channel why you are using mint
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Lint  this question dates from 2008 http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/15279/
[13:30] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, It is complaining about needing a .conf file and how that will be ignored in a future release.
[13:30] <ikonia> c31r2g: the irc server is irc.sportchat.org and the channel is #linuxmint-help or #linuxmint-chat
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> c31r2g: it just searches al the files and finds any file name or path containing the word 'data'
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: is it in /etc/modprobe.d by any chance
[13:31] <Lint> ikonia's debunked i presume
[13:31] <c31r2g> well ikonia because my hdd has gone bad and no other source of running some other distro so running live usb .....u know dont have anything at hand right know
[13:31] <c31r2g> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:31] <Lint> but i'm rather perplexed noone done anything with this since 2008
[13:32] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, this is exactly what it says: http://pastebin.com/Fv3j8HG3
[13:32] <c31r2g> well ikonia mint is 98% ubuntu based so might find some help here so i do visit here
[13:32] <c31r2g> :)
[13:32] <bazhang> c31r2g, no
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Lint  this forum has a happy user, in the end http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itpronetworking/thread/ecda546e-5fa0-4c09-9f3c-3bd132c1be68
[13:33] <tensorpudding> except mint has its own channel, so ubuntu doesn't support it
[13:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | c31r2g
[13:33] <ikonia> c31r2g: sorry no - they are different
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: run:  sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper /etc/modprobe.d/myndiswrapper.conf
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: and it will be ok
[13:33]  * melvincv has no issues with samba on win 7, except for Ubuntus older than 10.04, I guess...
[13:33] <hermitage> ActionParsnip thanks again :)
[13:34] <kyubutsu> lesson: type passwords manually, apparently copy/paste, although exactly the same, doesnt parse well ..  who knows these things
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> hermitage: thanks for the gratitude, it makes a difference :)
[13:34] <shadowe989> I'm here to help any Linux questions where I can regardless of distro... Linux is Linux. Feel free to PM me.
[13:34] <hermitage> ahihi
[13:34] <shadowe989> hermitage, hi
[13:35] <kyubutsu> shadowe989: there is a ##linux for that
[13:35] <c31r2g> well i heard 2 days ago about 98% ubuntu based and also some debian based...so got confused sorry for the bother.i hope you people wont mind a newbies curiosity
[13:35] <shadowe989> Kyubutsu I'm already in there.
[13:35] <poseless> hi, my problem refer to "wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ASURO". Typing "sudo cat /proc/tty/driver/usbserial" only printed out the first linie. An advice to Unplug all USB devices from PC, to turn off, and wait a minute.
[13:35] <ikonia> c31r2g: it's not, it's no problem, however please ask in the mint support channel
[13:35] <tensorpudding> better than ##linux, go to a support channel for your distro
[13:35] <c31r2g> thanks
[13:36] <c31r2g> bye
[13:36]  * kyubutsu ponders the meaning of 'redundancy'
[13:36] <poseless> didn't help
[13:36] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, I just tried that and did modprobe again. I got no errors at all, but I can't connect to wireless still.
[13:36] <ikonia> c31r2g: irc.spotchat.org channel #linuxmint-help or #linuxmint-chat
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: if you run:  ndiswrapper -l   does it say driver and hardware are present?
[13:37] <shadowe989> c31r2g, you are correct, good luck and sorry =/
[13:37] <loganrun> I messed up the settings for ubuntu window manager so I have to log in with ubuntu-2d now, is there a way to reset the settings for just his window manager and not the ubuntu-2d window manager
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> loganrun: unity --reset   maybe
[13:37] <loganrun> or is there a way to use the config editor while not logged into that window manager
[13:38] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, Yes, it says driver is installed and device is present.
[13:38] <crizzy> loganrun: happened to mess around with compizconfig?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: ok, run: sudo depmod -a; echo "ndiswrapper" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[13:38] <loganrun> crizzy: yes, and there is obviously a bug that I hit upon
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: then reboot and run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[13:39] <crizzy> loganrun: ok, tofix, login to unity 2d. start compizconfig. look for 'unity' plugin. i'm pretty sure this got disabled. click it back on. now unity should work again
[13:39] <poseless> my problem refers to "wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ASURO". Typing "sudo cat /proc/tty/driver/usbserial" only printed out the first linie. An advice to nplug all USB devices from PC, to turn off, and wait a minute. (didn't help)
[13:40] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, Okay, I will reboot and run that. I will be back in a few seconds.
[13:41] <loganrun> crizzy, there is a Ubuntu Unity plugin that is disabled, but it says that it conflicts with other plugins, do you want to resolve these conflicts
[13:41] <crizzy> loganrun: clickety-click: yes
[13:41] <crizzy> :p
[13:41] <loganrun> crizzy, doesn't tell me what the conflict is though, o.k. will try
[13:42] <crizzy> compizconfig is poo
[13:42] <crizzy> i think there was some talks to remove it from 12.04 repositories because it only breaks ppl's installations
[13:42] <Walther> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without a desktop environment from the Alternate cd?
[13:42] <Walther> !alternate
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Walther: could use minimal
[13:43] <Walther> ActionParsnip: Minimal didn't detect my wireless
[13:43] <Walther> hence couldn't install
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Walther: gotcha
[13:44] <shadowe989> !Walther I believe so you just have to select the packages it installs on the menu. I've used the server edition before to fine tune like what you're asking.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Walther: could install, connect to a wired link and be ok
[13:44] <shadowe989> oops didn't mean to hit !
[13:45] <underio> Hi all. I've just installed debian but when loading grub i get this error: file not found, entering rescue mode.. how can i fix?
[13:45] <underio> ehm, ubuntu
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Walther  first install, then try if wireless works
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> underio: debian isn't supported here
[13:45] <shadowe989> lol nice save hahaha
[13:45] <underio> ActionParsnip, ubuntu, sorry, i made a mistake
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> underio: hmm
[13:46] <shadowe989> underio, use a live disc and type grub-install /dev/sda
[13:46] <shadowe989> grub-install is the command you need to use to repair your bootloader
[13:46] <underio> i've not a live disc, i've an alternate cd
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> underio: press CTRL+ALT+F2 in alternate CD and you may be able to run it there
[13:47] <Walther> MonkeyDust: Minimal CD can't install without internet connection
[13:47] <shadowe989> underio, can't make one by any chance? Last time I used the alternative console it didn't seem to launch the apps unless you find them in /bin
[13:47] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, I just restarted then ran sudo iwlist scan and it says that lo and eth0 both do not support scanning.
[13:47] <underio> ActionParsnip, grub-install not found
[13:48] <carl__> lu
[13:48] <shadowe989> yeah it won't take commands like that
[13:48] <MoleMan> I've copied my root to an LVM and tried to set the fstab to mount the LVM, and run update-initramfs but it still seems to be booting to the original partition. Can anyone help?
[13:48] <shadowe989> you need to find their binary fines in the /bin/ ... let me check for ya
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> underio: then I'd shoot for grabbing the live desktop
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: is the ndiswrapper module loaded?
[13:49] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, I am running 10.04.3 64bit and the driver I choose was also 64bit. Could that be it?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: you need to match the archs so that will be correct
[13:49] <shadowe989> underio, hey try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:49] <shadowe989> scroll to the bottom it has a section on using the alt cd
[13:50] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, I opened up ndiswrapper and tried to scan and it still said the same thing.
[13:50] <asif> hi...how to install restricted extras
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton:
[13:50] <kyubutsu> a server connected thru wifi.. disgusting
[13:50] <kyubutsu> :-/
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: if you run: lsmod | grep ndis   do you see ndiswrapper?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> asif: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:50] <shadowe989> asif, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:50] <oPhelias_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:51] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip lol
[13:51] <kyubutsu> competition is fierce in here
[13:51] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: indeed disgusting. who was using one? I'd rather turn mine off completely...
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> kyubutsu: with n speed its not bad for a home server
[13:51] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, it says 'ndiswrapper           244800  0'
[13:51] <shadowe989> kyubutsu, lol
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: coolies
[13:51] <MoleMan> wireless in general is disgusting to me
[13:52] <asif> shadowe989, ActionParsnip  thank you guyz
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> BrandonBolton: all I can suggest is read:  dmesg | less      to see what happens at boot with the device and ndiswrapper etc. You could even try unplugging the device, wait a short while then shove it back in, see if it makes a difference
[13:52] <MoleMan> (inb4 !anyone | MoleMan) can anyone help me with booting ubuntu from LVM?
[13:52] <shadowe989> asif, my pleasure
[13:52] <MoleMan> I've copied my root to an LVM and tried to set the fstab to mount the LVM, and run update-initramfs but it still seems to be booting to the original partition. Can anyone help?
[13:52] <kyubutsu> MoleMan: someone asking about setting up a "CLI system" but not knowing the first thing about setting up wifi thru terminal.. sounds like walking into a wall
[13:53] <BrandonBolton> ActionParsnip, Alright, thank you. I will try that.
[13:53] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: I wouldn't even try personally, I have enough hassle with wifi and GUIs
[13:54] <qw-Russian> help me please
[13:54] <qw-Russian> i am install Spark by Linux
[13:54] <fidel> qw-Russian: and whats the problem?
[13:54] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: with it obviously being my fault when the mother's cluttered vista work laptop won't connect/work etc
[13:55] <qw-Russian> i didnt have Delphi
[13:55] <Guest66446> hi, i'm having some issues with 11.10
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: ask away
[13:56] <qw-Russian> please help install Delphifrom Spark
[13:56] <Guest66446> first off, i have a thumb drive that i used to store all my music from before i formatted(i just switched from windows) but ubuntu isn't detecting it
[13:56] <qw-Russian> i would like install Delphi from my Spark
[13:57] <Simon1245> Hey guys, is there any way to update Ubuntu while being on it?
[13:57] <kyubutsu> MoleMan: i also have wifi issues, fortunately enough, i can always smack the router, unplug a few things.. you know, the stuff pro's do
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: when you plug it in, do you see a reaction in the output of:  dmesg | tail
[13:57] <Guest66446> i see nothing
[13:57] <Guest66446> it doesn't even detect it
[13:57] <fidel> Simon1245: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and thats it
[13:57] <shadowe989> Simon1245, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:57] <karim_> how to install wamp server in linux please help me?
[13:57] <fidel> for sure you can work while running your package manager
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see the partition
[13:58] <Simon1245> fidel, shadowe989 Thanks guys :)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: have you tried a different usb port?
[13:58] <llutz_> karim_: you know what the W in wamp stands for?
[13:58] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: pretty much the same as me... although once whilst half drunk I made the best decision I have in a while, through my USB wireless adaptor at a wall, then took a drill to the wall...
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: when you last unplugged it, what steps did you take?
[13:58] <shadowe989> Simon, anytime
[13:58] <llutz_> !lamp | karim_
[13:58] <Guest66446> i removed did the disconnect
[13:59] <Guest66446> i'm tried all my usb ports on my computer too
[13:59] <Guest66446> it works on my xbox
[13:59] <Guest66446> let me see if it works on my fiancee's laptop rq
[13:59] <JuJuBee> I am trying to sync my iPod (80G Classic) with RB 0.13.1 on kubuntu 10.10 but only some of my music works on the iPod after sync.
[14:00] <karim_> ok in windows i use wamp but now to install lamp?
[14:00] <llutz_> karim_: read what ubottu told you
[14:00] <shadowe989> !lamp > karim_
[14:01] <shadowe989> karim_, then google "how to install apache (or whatever) ubuntu"
[14:01] <kyubutsu> if you were to look for LAMP in softwarecenter, whats the keyword?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: do you use the safe remove feature when you remove it from your xbox?
[14:01] <shadowe989> until you have all the parts to LAMP
[14:01] <llutz_> !lamp | kyubutsu
[14:02] <Guest66446> i'm gonna try and safely remove it from her laptop right now
[14:02] <karim_> shadowe989 thank
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: you should EVERY time
[14:02] <shadowe989> karim_, no problem.
[14:02] <shadowe989> karim_, good luck!
[14:02] <JuJuBee> kyubutsu:  there is no single packaage for that.  You install apache, php, mysql after installing linux and you have LAMP
[14:02] <Guest66446> i just did, and still nothing
[14:02] <Guest66446> it's a sandisk
[14:02] <timkuijsten> can anyone explain me why ubuntu security releases are always some days later than debian, for example the php patch last week was significantly later released than de updated debian release, is it maybe because ubuntu does more thorough testing than debian?
[14:02] <kyubutsu> JuJuBee: nicely put
[14:02] <kyubutsu> i like simple answers
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: chkdsk the partition so you know its healthy
[14:03] <JuJuBee> np
[14:03] <shadowe989> kyubutsu, backports. That means debian releases the update then it has to be ported to ubuntu.
[14:03] <monohedron> JuJuBee, tasksel will do it in one go
[14:03] <JuJuBee> Anybody here good with Rhythmbox and iPod syncing?
[14:03] <Guest66446> usually it lights up when it's detected but it's not even lighting up
[14:03] <shadowe989> sorry not kyubutsu, i ment timkuijsten
[14:04]  * kyubutsu chuckles
[14:04] <shadowe989> timkuijsten, distros sometimes port their patches to each other, but they have to make sure they work before they release them.
[14:04] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: Although when installing Ubuntu Server there is an option to install LAMP, and you may be able to run a single command to install LAMP on server...
[14:04] <JuJuBee> monohedron: did not know that.  Thanks, I have always installed separately since that is what is ultimately needed
[14:04] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: ok, so debian always has a closer sercurity vuln. window than ubuntu?
[14:04] <kyubutsu> MoleMan: that sounds even better
[14:04] <monohedron> :)
[14:04] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: s/coser/smaller/
[14:04] <shadowe989> timkuijsten, it depends, ubuntu releases their own patches then debian might port it to theirs.
[14:04] <JuJuBee> monohedron: is taskel a meta package or an actual package with all the components?
[14:05] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: ok, good to know
[14:05] <monohedron> meta is what you call it i think
[14:05] <Guest66446> i can't seem to chkdsk
[14:05] <monohedron> !tasksel
[14:05] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: i often see quicker security releases from debian..
[14:05] <MoleMan> kyubutsu: but Ubuntu Server does leave you restricted to a CLI only, if you wanted to use the same computer as a PC as well
[14:06] <shadowe989> monohedron, yeah meta-package is the correct term. There is no meta-package for "LAMP" as far as I know. I just install it manually.
[14:06]  * kyubutsu nods
[14:06] <mbeierl> I am running dovecot on my 11.10 system at home.  I have recently changed ISPs and now no longer have an actual point of precense on the internet (ie: always behind ISP NAT).  Can anyone recommend a good IMAP sync tool to help replicate my email to an externally hosted IMAP server?  I have an AWS image with 11.04 which I can use
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> MoleMan: well, by default yes restricted ;)
[14:06]  * Lint never succeeded in installing PHP on Ubuntu
[14:06] <shadowe989> timkuijsten, Yeah I'm not sure of the security status comparing the two but If I took a guess debian would be more secure. But a good secure distro is centos IMO. sorry OT.
[14:06] <monohedron> shadowe989,  it's an option in tasksel
[14:07] <kyubutsu> tasksel shows up in software center , just not as metapackage for lamp though
[14:07] <llutz_> mbeierl: http://www.athensfbc.com/imap_tools/
[14:07] <monohedron> just start tasksel and have a look
[14:07] <JuJuBee> mbeierl: how about using dynamic dns?  like dyn-dns ?
[14:07] <xangua> MoleMan: kyubutsu: but Ubuntu Server does leave you restricted to a CLI only - does not, you can install any gui you want if you need to
[14:07] <monohedron> start tasksel in terminal
[14:07] <shadowe989> monohedron, oh? cool I'll check that.
[14:07] <llutz_> JuJuBee: how should that help with ISP NAT?
[14:07] <kyubutsu> xangua: 'by default'
[14:07] <Guest66446> also, is there anyway to change the desktop to more resemble 10?
[14:08] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: centos, mmm… but really not that open with kernel binary blobs, you know if ubuntu has the binary blob free kernel of debian, i don't believe so but i'm not sure..
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest66446: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:08] <underio> ActionParsnip, http://i.imgur.com/RrJ1d.jpg
[14:08] <shadowe989> MoleMan, I agree with xangua, I have a netbook running server 10.04 with gnome hah
[14:08] <xangua> !nounity | Guest66446
[14:09] <JuJuBee> llutz: can map the dns to a nat'd off net ip at home.  I use it to get to my media server at home which is off net.
[14:09] <Guest66446> !classic
[14:09] <ignerious> how to install d4x in ubuntu 11.10
[14:09] <llutz_> JuJuBee: and your ISP forwarded the ports for you?
[14:09] <shadowe989> timkuijsten, Yeah its hard to say. I'm not a expert on if ubuntu is more secure. But as long as you're using linux and you set up your apps right with security in mind. You should be fine.
[14:09] <ignerious> please tell me
[14:09] <JuJuBee> llutz: i do it at my end
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> underio: what do I need that for?
[14:09] <llutz_> JuJuBee: you can't when being ISP NATed
[14:10] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: but you dont' know about any binary blobs in the ubuntu kernel either?
[14:10] <kyubutsu> llutz_: the router software can do some forwarding
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> underio: you are using precise which isn't supported here and is supported in #ubuntu+1 or you have used a 3rd party kernel which isn't supported either here or in the +1 channel
[14:11] <llutz_> kyubutsu: you can't when being ISP NATed
[14:11] <JuJuBee> llutz: depends on how they are nat'ing and if they are blocking ports
[14:11] <ignerious> how to install d4x in ubuntu 11.10
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ignerious: what is d4x?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !info d4x
[14:11] <shadowe989> timkuijsten, sadly I don't. I'm security aware but not a kernel guy. I just know from what I've read in books and such.
[14:11] <llutz_> JuJuBee: kyubutsu if your ISP uses NAT, he would need to portforward every port to every NATes IP to get you accessible from WAN. they won't do
[14:12] <kyubutsu> llutz_: i see yer point, but, its not impossible
[14:12] <timkuijsten> shadowe989: ok, tnx. you recommend centos over debian because of tighter selinux integration?
[14:12] <monohedron> llutz, JuJuBee isp's don't nat
[14:12] <ignerious> web downloader for X 2.5(d4x) in a alternative of IDM
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ignerious: tried fatrat or jdownloader?
[14:13] <llutz_> monohedron: sure they do. i'm behind such a NATed connection here
[14:13] <ignerious> mo
[14:13] <ignerious> no
[14:13] <JuJuBee> monohedron: yes they do.  Some anyway
[14:13] <qw-Russian> i am install Spark by Linux but i have DB from Access Were me Download and install access from Spark ?
[14:13] <monohedron> llutz, JuJuBee go to morsnowski.com/tools/ip and see whether that ip is the same as that of your router
[14:13] <llutz_> monohedron: they differ, yes
[14:13] <monohedron> if it is you have a public IP if not it's nat
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ignerious: could see if there is a ppa, seems to be in debian
[14:14] <JuJuBee> monohedron: I know what NAT is
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ignerious
[14:14] <monohedron> llutz, time to change isp thats outragious
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> ignerious: or you could compile. There are plenty of downloader apps in the default repos
[14:14] <llutz_> monohedron: 3G conenction, i don't care here. my external is "10.200.131.147" ;)
[14:14] <monohedron> lol
[14:14] <monohedron> thats the old compaq range
[14:15] <monohedron> if it was public
[14:15] <llutz_> monohedron: and it is common practise today to use NAT for 3G/LTE
[14:15] <monohedron> not in europe
[14:15] <shadowe989> that almost looks like a public ip haha
[14:15] <llutz_> monohedron: well, i'm german... so you're wrong
[14:15] <JuJuBee> llutz: so if behind NAT, it should still work...  the imap runs on port 143 so NAT only re-writes the layer 3 address, it shouldn't mess with the layer 4 info...
[14:15] <monohedron> llutz, ich auch
[14:15] <monohedron> me too
[14:16] <kyubutsu> duel!
[14:16] <monohedron> I haven't seen isp natting in any european country so far, who is your provider
[14:16] <kyubutsu> o.o
[14:17] <monohedron> anyway that isn't helping JuJuBee
[14:17] <llutz_> JuJuBee: if you setup dyndns it always would point to the wrong IP. even if you try to get to my (local-) external IP, you won't reach anything, because theres no port forwarded
[14:17] <kyubutsu> oh look oscar isnt nat'ed
[14:17] <Lint> kyubutsu, you may need to purchase 'static IP' option to enable port forwarding
[14:18] <kyubutsu> i tell you, your router can do it for you
[14:18] <shadowe989> Reminds me of amazon EC2s... your external ip to the system is private but your real IP is NAT'd to the private. At least thats how its done with EC2s in Virginia. OT
[14:18] <kyubutsu> as far as what it looks like to the network at minimum
[14:19] <oscar> ola, estou com problemas de impressao com a hp d2360 que agora so imprime em verde no ubuntu 10.4. no win imprime bem.que faço?
[14:19] <kyubutsu> things like DMZplus settings and other router tricks
[14:19] <shadowe989> !es | oscar
[14:19] <Lint> !br
[14:19] <shadowe989> I always get that mixed up... es br blah
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Lint: you can be on dynamic IP from your ISP you will just need no-ip or dydns account and a mechanism to update the IP regularly
[14:20] <JuJuBee> llutz: suppose your internal ip is 10.1.1.1 and your external is 60.1.1.1 then http://60.1.1.1:143 should get re routed to 10.1.1.1:143
[14:20] <kyubutsu> the IP lease of most routers seem to be 24 hours for added security too
[14:20] <Awolf> Can anyone assist I want to sort files by Creation date I use gnome 3.2.2.1 on ubuntu 11.10
[14:20] <oscar> #ubuntu-br
[14:20] <kyubutsu> specially on DHCP
[14:21] <llutz_> JuJuBee: well in fact there are a few hundred IPs NATed to 60.1.1.1, to what local IP do you think 60.1.1.1:143 will be forwarded?
[14:21]  * Lint wonders how people can mistake portuguese for spanish
[14:21] <kyubutsu> but yah, you are nat'ed. the end.
[14:21] <suporte> oi
[14:22] <llutz_> JuJuBee: NAT isn't done 1:1, its done because IP-addresses are expensive. so many local-IPs -> NAT -> Internet
[14:22] <ahmad> #ubuntu-ir
[14:22] <shadowe989> Lint, its quite easy. A lot of the words only have a few differences. My girl speaks Spanish and can understand Portuguese some since its so similar.
[14:22] <pianobar> buenas tardes
[14:22] <suporte> tem alguem aí?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: i'd ask in #bash too
[14:23] <karim_> i am
[14:23] <shadowe989> llutz, whats that called... "pooled nat" or something like that... its been awhile.
[14:24]  * kyubutsu sets up /ignore on suporte 
[14:24] <gokul> is elementary os just a clone of ubuntu ?
[14:24] <xangua> gokul: is not supported here
[14:24] <suporte> 1220
[14:24] <shadowe989> llutz, Nat Overloading is what you're talking about.
[14:24] <Lint> !br > suporte
[14:25] <JuJuBee> llutz: not going to argue, never said always possible, sure there are reasons why it wont work sometimes and it can work others
[14:25] <suporte> ok
[14:25] <shadowe989> networking is complex... especially at ISPs.
[14:25] <irdx> suporte: you can join #ubuntu-br and ask for help.
[14:26] <suporte> yes
[14:26] <JuJuBee> llutz: and btw, NAT is 1:1 overloaded NAT is not
[14:26] <shadowe989> xangua, I read about that OS before... I think in Linux Pro mag. I wouldn't say clone but its a version made to be very easy to use for people who are not good with computers.
[14:27] <llutz_> JuJuBee: ok, but that is what ISPs commonly use today
[14:28] <kyubutsu> which is sensical
[14:28] <hkmix> Does anyone know why a GTK2/3 theme would work in twf but not when applied using either ubuntu-tweak or gnome-tweak-tool?
[14:29] <shadowe989> llutz, depends on the country, US i believe with the exception of cell phones its 1:1. US had first dibs on the IP pool though. Asia has the worst grab of the ip pool.
[14:29] <bananstol> !virtualisation
[14:29] <bananstol> !virtualbox
[14:29] <bananstol> !vmware
[14:29] <Pici> !msgthebot | bananstol
[14:29] <auronandace> !botabuse | Bananaburger
[14:30] <headpool182> so i'm running a program via WinE and i need to install a specific font for it to run properly, how do i do that?
[14:30] <auronandace> Bananaburger: sorry, wrong nick
[14:30] <kyubutsu> you can also /msg ubottu... privately..
[14:30] <kyubutsu> :-/
[14:30] <hkmix> headpool182:  Drop it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Fonts
[14:30] <shadowe989> headpool182, not exactly sure with just wine but winetricks has options for that.
[14:30] <bananstol> is it virtualbox that has an inbuilt rdp server...or both?
[14:30] <hkmix> headpool182: Alternatively use winetricks to install the font if it has it
[14:31] <shadowe989> Bananastol, I believe so let me double check
[14:32] <shadowe989> Bananastol, it has RDP display support in the GUI under "Display".
[14:32] <bananstol> thanks
[14:34] <shadowe989> Bananastol, I recommend virtualbox for workstation use. Its very feature complete and FOSS (open source)
[14:34] <shadowe989> Bananstol, I use it daily :)
[14:38] <qw-Russian> help me pease
[14:39] <qw-Russian> i am install lazarys
[14:39] <qw-Russian> but i am not search here
[14:39] <roasted> Question - I have a bootable multi ISO flash drive. If I run "sudo update-grub" in terminal will that ALSO update grub on my flash drive? Or do I have to run it specifically on /dev/sdb or something?
[14:39] <qw-Russian> understand
[14:39] <shadowe989> you have to specify what device
[14:39] <qw-Russian> i am search
[14:40] <auronandace> roasted: sudo update-grub will update the grub that you have booted from
[14:40] <shadowe989> roasted, wait thats for install-grub... im not sure about update-grub
[14:40] <urfr332g0> roasted, whats the problem with the thumb, what is the end goal?
[14:40] <shadowe989> roasted, if you're trying to fix sdb, i think your looking for sudo install-grub /dev/sdb
[14:41] <roasted> urfr332g0: I have a flash drive with multiple Ubuntu ISOs on it. I want to select at the grub screen which one I want to boot to. I already have it set up, but I added another Ubuntu ISO and I need to update grub (I assume) to boot to ti. Currently this particular entry errors out that I have to load the kernel first.
[14:41] <roasted> shadowe989: Grub is already installed on the flash drive. Wouldn't updating it after adding a new ISO be all I need?
[14:41] <urfr332g0> roasted, how did you set up the flash to multi boot?
[14:42] <shadowe989> roasted, if you partitioned it and installed ubuntu to each partition grub will detect the other OS
[14:42] <roasted> urfr332g0: I forget, it's been a while. I basically made my own grub congiruation and set up a folder of a bunch of ISOs. I think I found instructions on pendrivelinux or something.
[14:42] <shadowe989> roasted, then after that it might have the names right but you can still select which systems to boot. You can clean that up later in the configs.
[14:42] <roasted> urfr332g0: I have to find the "grub2 entry" for whichever OS I want to be on there. So I have Ubuntu, GParted, Clonezilla, DBAN, etc on it.
[14:43] <roasted> shadowe989: no, nothing is installed, Ubuntu isn't phsyically installed. It's just a folder of ISO's that I can boot to in a live session.
[14:43] <urfr332g0> roasted you might consider using a app that is for multi booting and autoupdates the boootloader multisystmes does this.
[14:43] <shadowe989> roasted got it... okay thats more complicated. disregard what I said haha
[14:43] <Steevca> I am having slow preformance with java powered games on ubuntu,but only on firefox.
[14:43] <roasted> urfr332g0: I don't need an app. I just need to update grub....
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: which java?
[14:44] <roasted> wait I think it worked?
[14:44] <roasted> sudo update-grub /dev/sdb
[14:44] <roasted> now I can see it picked up 11.04 I dropped in
[14:44] <Steevca> I have OpenJDK java 6 and 7 installed.
[14:44] <roasted> rebooting to test...
[14:44] <urfr332g0> roasted, sure and the time you may wait would never happen if you had it set up in a way you remembered or just use a app that does this but hey it is your time. :)
[14:44] <monohedron> roasted, why don't you grep for the an existing entry and see what file lights up, then you can just modify the entry
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: what is the output of:  uname -m
[14:45] <shadowe989> Steevca, try using the "normal" restricted version of java by getting it from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:45] <roasted> urfr332g0: if you find me a linux based app, I'd use it. Last I looked, it was just easier to do it manually because all I had to do was drop the ISO in /home/isos and paste in the grub2 config. I would hardly call that difficult :P
[14:45] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: i686
[14:45] <roasted> dangit, still doesn't work :/
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> shadowe989: oracle java isn't in the repos now
[14:45] <urfr332g0> roasted I mentioned a linux based app multisystem I use it is easy.
[14:46] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip, oh thanks for letting me know. :)
[14:46] <roasted> urfr332g0: which app
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840453/
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: you can change the last few lines to link to firefox is you want
[14:46] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I forgot my password on ubuntu, is there any way to recover it?
[14:47] <asif> hi..help me ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/840454/
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: boot to root recovery mode and you can reset it there
[14:47] <overclucker> roasted: i've used multisystem as well. worked pretty well, and allowed for a flash grub splash too
[14:47] <urfr332g0> roasted, lmgtfy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[14:47] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Ok,thanks.But i might need some help,i am just going to lunch now.
[14:47] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, How do I recover it from there?
[14:48] <roasted> I've used this before... I forget why I didn't end up using it...
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> asif: are updates installing or software centre open
[14:48] <urfr332g0> roasted, lol you hardly call that difficult yet you still can'tb do it. :)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: run:  passwd yourusername; reboot
[14:48] <overclucker> roasted: are you trying to put grub back into the mbr of the drive?
[14:48] <roasted> urfr332g0: doing it is easy. updating it I'm confused over. It seems as if you're having difficulty understanding that.
[14:48] <shadowe989> Simon1245, yeah what ActionParsnip said, heres a guide with pictures for ya http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[14:49] <roasted> urfr332g0: I set it up, manually, without any issue, by adding the grub2 entry to the grub.cfg. That part is easy because its copy and paste. Easy.
[14:49] <shadowe989> Simon1245, even has a video haha
[14:49] <asif> ActionParsnip,  no , i was installing restricted extras but when it asked me to accpet MS EULA it crashe and i closed it so installtion broke
[14:49] <roasted> urfr332g0: I set it up one time, months ago, and I haven't touched it since. Excuse me for forgetting how to update grub on this exact device, but that's all I'm asking.
[14:49] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Thanks, shadowe989 thanks
[14:49] <shadowe989> Simon1245, no problem good luck
[14:49] <abhi_123> i want to know about backtrack5.........
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> abhi_123: its not supported here
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> abhi_123: ask in #backtrack-linux
[14:50] <shadowe989> abhi_123, its for security professionals but theres a backtrack channel you can go to on this network
[14:51] <pfifo> hi guys
[14:51] <shadowe989> hey
[14:51] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840454/...help me out
[14:52] <overclucker> roasted: grub-install might work for that if you set --boot-directory
[14:52] <roasted> overclucker: such as sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ?
[14:52] <shadowe989> asif, try this apt-get install -f
[14:53] <shadowe989> also have you tried rebooting?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !apt-fix | asif
[14:53] <Simon1245> shadowe989, ActionParsnip is there any way to recover it without having to log off?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> asif: use TAB and ENTER to accept the licenses in terminal
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: you can run: passwd    and set your password, not sure if it asks for the current password first
[14:54] <overclucker> roasted: mount it and grub-install --boot-directory=/media/sdb1/boot /dev/sdb
[14:54] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip, would Simon1245 be able to telinit 1 to get root? I can check if u dont know.
[14:54] <roasted> overclucker: just a fun thought, could I utilize that same command but subsitute grub-install for update-grub?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> shadowe989: not sure, you'd need sudo -i   to get a root console, requiring password
[14:55] <overclucker> roasted: nope
[14:55] <Simon1245> shadowe989, means? ActionParsnip let me try
[14:55] <shadowe989> Simon1245, that would boot you in single user mode.
[14:55] <overclucker> roasted: completely different tasks
[14:55] <shadowe989> Simon1245, but your going to lose your gui
[14:56] <asif> ActionParsnip, thank you . it is fine now
[14:56] <Simon1245> shadowe989, with an old friend on msn
[14:56] <overclucker> roasted: you could use grub-setup, or just use grub and set it up from grub console
[14:56] <Simon1245> I'll come back soon here here talking to him haven't spoken to him for like 1year now or something :D
[14:57] <urfr332g0> !attitude > overclucker
[14:57] <shadowe989> Simon1245, haha ok
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> asif: np man
[14:57] <mrgt> how do identify the list of available devices in the command line?
[14:57] <pfifo> mrgt, `sudo lshw`
[14:57] <asif> ActionParsnip,  but I think restricted extra is not installed
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> mrgt: sudo lshw | less      will be more readable
[14:58] <shadowe989> mrgt, theres some other ones like lsusb, lspci, etc
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> asif: then rerun the install command and it will say if its installed
[14:58] <overclucker> urfr332g0: hmm?
[15:00] <asif> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/840465/
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> asif: use the web to see what: /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable     means and how to fix it
[15:02] <burazrock> hi all,i have problems with my nvidia card.it is a g105m. I tryed to install ppa (xswat) to upgrade automaticcaly drivers but when install driver current, after grub the screen stands black. So i remove ppa and now driver nouveau is running, but when i try to install drivers proprietry with jockey it crashs during the installation and after reboot screen is black after grub...what can i do?if it is possible i would
[15:02] <burazrock> latest video driver.thanks
[15:02] <c31r2g> hi ActionParsnip
[15:02] <headpool182> okay, so i have a font put into my WinE folder, but my windows mudclient won't load it. I know i've done this before
[15:02] <headpool182> but it was 2 years ago, and i can't remember how i did it
[15:03] <urfr332g0> overclucker, if your going to be sarcastic to the FREE and make claims you can't back up you will not get much help, I gave you an easy way to do this drop the iso on it auto updates, and has many features like tons of ISO down load links, plop and MS apps it is a waste of time. :)
[15:03] <urfr332g0> help*
[15:04] <c31r2g> help * what
[15:04] <headpool182> can someone help me with my issue?
[15:04] <c31r2g> urfr332g0
[15:04] <c31r2g> what headpool182
[15:05] <headpool182> i have installed a font into my WinE fonts folder, but i can't seem to get it to load in my program
[15:05] <overclucker> urfr332g0: i never intended to upset anyone, sorry for that.
[15:05] <szal> headpool182: how is that a *buntu issue?
[15:05] <doktoreas> Hello everybody..is there a way to customize unity toolbar using scripting?
[15:05] <shadowe989> #wine offers support for wine
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> headpool182: I'd ask in #winehq
[15:05] <urfr332g0> overclucker, I'm not upset. :)
[15:05] <c31r2g> well sorry no idea wait for someone else to answer
[15:06] <c31r2g> yeah #wine is good
[15:06] <shadowe989> winehq* lol i wonder why they named it that =/
[15:06] <c31r2g> hi ActionParsnip
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> hi c31r2g
[15:06] <c31r2g> hi shadowe989
[15:06] <c31r2g> how r you guys?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> shadowe989: i'm sure they will be able to tell you ;)
[15:07] <shadowe989> hello, good. Your self?
[15:07] <burazrock> uff can somebody help me? :(
[15:07] <c31r2g> what??????
[15:07] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip, haha
[15:07] <c31r2g> burazrock??
[15:07] <szal> c31r2g, shadowe989: this channel is for support, everything else is either superfluous or off-topic
[15:07] <urfr332g0> burazrock, give us the problem and maybe someone will know. :)
[15:07] <c31r2g> szal ok
[15:07] <burazrock> hi all,i have problems with my nvidia card.it is a g105m. I tryed to install ppa (xswat) to upgrade automaticcaly drivers but when install driver current, after grub the screen stands black. So i remove ppa and now driver nouveau is running, but when i try to install drivers proprietry with jockey it crashs during the installation and after reboot screen is black after grub...what can i do?if it is possible i would
[15:07] <burazrock> latest video driver.thanks
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> burazrock: boot to root recovery mode and run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    it may help
[15:08] <shadowe989> szal, I been providing support for hours this morning... what am I to do? ignore a greeting? lol
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> burazrock: reboot after the command to test
[15:08] <burazrock> ActionParsnip: but if i run the same version of kernel the recovery mode doesn't start..is normal?
[15:08] <shadowe989> szal, lets at least keep it friendly here
[15:09] <DragonSlay> ActionParsnip: you are excellent supporte in #ubuntu.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> burazrock: the recovery mode will always show, its text
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> DragonSlay: just killin time :)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> DragonSlay: i'm one of the highest karmas on launchpad too
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[15:10] <szal> shadowe989: nothing wrong w/ that, it's only that folks who come up w/ a general greeting after a few lines of basically nonsense are usually bored kiddies looking for a chit-chat
[15:10] <urfr332g0> ActionParsnip, lol my first thought. :)
[15:10] <burazrock> ActionParsnip: i think you refers to section in whitch there are root netroot shell and others options
[15:10] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: I did evrything,what now,do i just restart firefox?
[15:10] <DragonSlay> ActionParsnip: you got a link for me?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: you will need to link the .so to your firefox plugins folder, then yes
[15:11] <Steevca> Did it.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> burazrock: yes, select root from there
[15:11] <DragonSlay> Steevca: if flash is the problem , then install flashaid add-on
[15:11] <qopi> HELP!
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> DragonSlay: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActionParsnip
[15:11] <_Marcus> !help | qopi
[15:12] <burazrock> ok..i'll try..but i've tried to install this drivers a lot of time without any result
[15:12] <qopi> after doing recent update to 3.0.0-16 my power cut out and now I can't boot
[15:12] <haven_> I received this error"/usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.6.1/../../../i386-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start':
[15:12] <haven_> (.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main'"
[15:12] <haven_> how to deal with this?
[15:12] <qopi> after doing recent update to 3.0.0-16 my power cut out and now I can't boot, just get to initramfs
[15:13] <burazrock> ActionParsnip: ok..i'll try..but i've tried to install this drivers a lot of time without any result
[15:13] <qopi> I'd gotten (I think) to the "need to restart" to complete stage
[15:13] <qopi> but then had a power cut
[15:13] <_Marcus> qopi: So it was finished, and the power cut?
[15:13] <haven_> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.6.1/../../../i386-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start':
[15:13] <haven_> (.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main'
[15:14] <haven_> how to deal with this ?
[15:14] <qopi> _Marcus: I think it was finished, yes. And yes, then the power cut
[15:14] <MoleMan> is there an option or something for cp to retain the owner + group settings?
[15:14] <_Marcus> qopi: Weird. I don't know what to say about that problem.
[15:14]  * qopi is not 100% sure it was finished, but 99.9% sure
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> qopi: is the partitions healthy? you can fsck in liveCD
[15:15] <qopi> ActionParsnip: I don't have a livecd can have no other computer to make one
[15:15] <qopi> s/can/and
[15:15] <qopi> ActionParsnip: well, no other computer with a cd drive
[15:15]  * qopi is on his netbook
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> qopi: live USB is fine
[15:16] <qopi> ah, good plan
[15:16] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, shadowe989, thanks guys it worked great :)
[15:16] <shadowe989> szal, Ok... reading over the recent chat. I don't see how what I said was harmful to support and singled out, compared to the other "OT" going on as I responded.
[15:16] <qopi> assuming I can find a big enough usb stick...
[15:16] <Tirean> So who can tell me what in the world Ubunti TV ACTUALLY is and how/when I can get it on my TV?
[15:16] <shadowe989> Simon1245, glad to hear :)
[15:16] <Tirean> Ubuntu TV*
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> qopi: the ubuntu liveCD is 700Mb, i'm pretty sure you'll have one
[15:17] <shadowe989> Tirean, Well they have a version of it called mythbuntu.
[15:17] <LjL> Tirean: i don't think you can just "get it on your TV". you can perhaps build it on your computer, or you can wait and at some point buy a TV that has it. meanwhile, probably better to ask in #ubuntu-tv
[15:17] <LjL> shadowe989: that's not really Ubuntu TV, it's another thing, afaik
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Tirean: omgubuntu hae a doc on it
[15:18] <qopi> ActionParsnip: don't be so sure! I rarely use usb sticks! also, it says on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download that it should have at least 2gb
[15:18] <sanguisdex> what package is gmake part of, I can't seem to find it
[15:18] <qopi> I do have a tiny but temporamenta 16gb one somewhere though...
[15:18] <shadowe989> Ahh, gotcha. I just seen ubuntu advertising a set top version of their distro and figured they had that feature. :)
[15:19] <Tirean> Oh i was wondering if an irc channel.had been made. I'll check. ActionParsnip I keep seeing articles on there and none of them really say what it actually is and how it works. Just what it looks like running
[15:19] <auronandace> !find gmake | sanguisdex
[15:20] <shadowe989> isn't gmake in build essentials metapackage?
[15:20] <DragonSlay1> ActionParsnip: wall the best for attaining linux accreditions
[15:20] <DragonSlay1> all*
[15:20] <m477_> #python.pl
[15:20] <sanguisdex> shadowe989: not mine
[15:20] <sanguisdex> shadowe989: just installed that
[15:20] <shadowe989> Sanguisdex, yikes, let me see...
[15:21] <shadowe989> gmake is make apparently
[15:21] <shadowe989> you can use make in replacement of it via a alias
[15:22] <Atlantic777> Do new ubuntu versions have some problems with ntfs partitions? ntfs vs ntfs-3g?
[15:22] <sanguisdex> okay I will try it
[15:22] <shadowe989> Atlantic777, I've had no issues personally.
[15:22] <urfr332g0> Atlantic777, what is the problem your having?
[15:22]  * qopi goes to try and find usb stick to make live usb...
[15:22] <shadowe989> sanguisdex, good luck.
[15:22] <Atlantic777> We have growing numbers of users on forum which have issues with not being able to write to a ntfs partition as normal user.
[15:23] <Atlantic777> So we are hacking that with ntfs-3g and /etc/fstab
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> qopi: if power is an issue you may want to look into a UPS
[15:23] <Atlantic777> but... it worked ok, afaik
[15:23] <shadowe989> Atlantic777, NTFS read and write has always worked for me out of the box since around 10.04 hmm...
[15:24] <urfr332g0> Atlantic777, sounds like improper setups it pretty much set up in installs.
[15:24] <DragonSlay> ActionParsnip: i once remember reading a article explaining about booting from cd images by keeping them in harddisk. have you come across that boot type?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> DragonSlay: grub2 can boot ISOs
[15:24] <_CeRt_> q
[15:25] <Atlantic777> tn shadowe989, urfr332g0. I'll keep an eye on that users... Maybe it's just some coincidence. :)
[15:25] <shadowe989> Atlantic777, anytime
[15:25] <DragonSlay> ActionParsnip: how can i tell grub2 that i have cd image that you need to look in to..?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> DragonSlay: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/backtrack-grub2-iso-boot-863078/   something like that
[15:26] <qopi> ActionParsnip: power is not normally an issue, thanks. But I guess I should buy another battery (I got a new one recently, then didn't use it and not using it at all seems to have killed it :( )
[15:27] <ithetux> ciao
[15:28]  * DragonSlay reading ActionParsnip link :)
[15:29] <urfr332g0> Atlantic777, at the ubuntu in the threads by the person linked to in the second post of the link above is a thread for using grub 2 to boot iso's you can also have a partition with iso's that can be booted.
[15:29] <urfr332g0> forums
[15:30] <asterisk-Tester> hello, does nvidia GT555M (lenovo Y570) have drivers for Ubuntu or yet ?
[15:31] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, I would believe so. I can check for ya
[15:31] <Oer> asterisk-Tester, Optimux ?
[15:32] <ciaobello> here it seams to be full ;-)
[15:32] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-270.41.06-driver.html
[15:33] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, that's the one you need or a newer version. But that there supports the 555m
[15:33] <ciaobello> i would like to download ubunto ... for a workstation ... recomendation is 32Bit ... but the PC is 64bit ... what are the reasons for the recomendation
[15:34] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, so 270.41.06 will do the trick
[15:34] <shadowe989> ciaobello, 32bit is mostly better with older computers. It's safer to say it'll work
[15:34] <DragonSlay> ActionParsnip: thanks, nice to trick to save CDs & Pen drive lifetime.
[15:35] <shadowe989> ciaobello, but you can use the 64bit version just fine with no problems.
[15:35] <ciaobello> dies it have more 32bit software ?
[15:35] <ciaobello> does
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> asterisk-Tester: if you add the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh) you can get the 290 driver which will support your GPU
[15:35] <shadowe989> ciaobello, I've never came across any software thats 64bit only.
[15:36] <asterisk-Tester> shadowe989: thanks a lot but do u think it might work if ubuntu is installed as guest in virtual box, or it depende on virtual box  ?
[15:36] <forbidden404> Guys, my banshee doesnt play any song, any thoughts about it?
[15:36] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, you need the nvidia driver installed on the host
[15:36] <ciaobello> ok thans shadowe989
[15:36] <ciaobello> thanks
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: what codecs have you installed?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: what format are the files you have tried?
[15:37] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, then you need to install the "guest additions" on the virtual machine. That will give you 3d acceleration. I have the same setup but different nvidia card
[15:37] <forbidden404> mp3
[15:37] <forbidden404> ActionParsnip: just mp3
[15:37] <shadowe989> ciaobello, no problem :)
[15:37] <forbidden404> Well, before was playing fine, Idk why this happened now
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:37] <forbidden404> yep
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: do they play in other players
[15:38] <forbidden404> I just have banshee in my ubuntu
[15:38] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, basically virtual machines have their own drivers which they call "Guest additions" that allow the VM to use your real hardware more efficiently. So if your using ubuntu in a VM you don't need the nvidia driver.
[15:38] <DragonSlay> reconfiguring gstreamer-ugly might help
[15:38] <asterisk-Tester> shadowe989: exactly i had it installed, but unity 3D was so sluggish, so i had to switch to unity 2D
[15:38] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, ohh
[15:38] <asterisk-Tester> mmmm so that driver wont help me
[15:38] <asterisk-Tester> i need an update on guest additions ? (if available)
[15:38] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, okay have you tried increasing vram of the guest and making sure 3d acceleration is on?
[15:39] <dat789> hello #ubuntu. here seeking help/advice.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: install gnome-mplayer or vlc and try that
[15:39] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, yeah guest addition updates and virtual box updates do help 3d acceleration.
[15:39] <asterisk-Tester> the max that virtual box supports was 128 MB , but my card is 2 GB...
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> asterisk-Tester: I'd stick to 2D in a virtual system, it will be snappier
[15:39] <Bobenhaus> anyone know how to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.20.run ?
[15:39] <asterisk-Tester> i had the latest vbox installed... seem there isnt any support for it currently ...
[15:40] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, yeah thats all virtual box supports, same with vmware
[15:40] <dat789> recently installed Ubuntu 11.10. It didn't recognize my graphics card so I installed it (fglrx)
[15:40] <shubbar> my new Logitech C270 webcam doesn't give clean picture
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Bobenhaus: drop to root recovery mode and run the file, instead I suggest you use the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh)
[15:40] <asterisk-Tester> shadowe989: :-) ok i though vmware was more powerfull in that domain
[15:40] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, but vmware player has superior 3d performance. Where I can get modern games to run without lag.
[15:40] <asterisk-Tester> :-(
[15:40] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, your correct
[15:40] <dat789> after rebooting, my screen went blank
[15:40] <Bobenhaus> actionparsnip: Would you happen to know the ppa?
[15:40] <shubbar> it should not need any configuration
[15:41] <dat789> @Bobenhaus, I'm trying to do the same for ATI Catalyst
[15:41] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, I keep vmware player (free version) just for when I need good 3d acceleration. but I use virtual box for most of my development.
[15:41] <asterisk-Tester> but even with vmware, only 128 MB can be used ? isnt it weird to have the same limitation in both ?
[15:41] <asterisk-Tester> aha
[15:42] <shubbar> Anyone has a new Logitech webcam?
[15:42] <asterisk-Tester> so installing the driver from nvidia site wont be much of a help, as it wont "update" my guest additions, right ?
[15:42] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, I don't understand why that is but 128MB can do quite a bit. I'd give it a shot. Vmware player is 100% free unlike other versions, so it might be worth using until virtualbox catches up some.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Bobenhaus: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:42] <Bobenhaus> ok thanks
[15:42] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, you are correct.
[15:43] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, I've had issues with 3d acceleration on virtualbox then loaded it on vmware and it works fine. so thats my advise to work around that for now.
[15:44] <ickefes> hi guys! i have a noob question regarding linux/ubuntu and new software. an example is lame 3.98 is available for lucid for if i want to use the latest 3.99.3 i need to have newer ubuntu than lucid while on windows for example, i can use the old xp and any lame version i want. so why is it that i need newer ubuntu to use a newer lame (and many other programs)?
[15:44] <asterisk-Tester> shadowe989: ok thx for sharing ur experiance and advice :-)
[15:44] <shadowe989> asterisk-Tester, anytime and good luck :)
[15:45] <esuave> anyone have any experience creating a daemon for a python script?
[15:46] <urfr332g0> ickefes, you can use what you want if you understand the dependencies, lucid is the longterm release .
[15:46] <blackboxer> You're worried of a budget meeting? If we don't take care of this, we don't make it to the men's room. We will burn for this. We will both burn for this.
[15:47] <shadowe989> esuave, I have a link here somewhere to do that... Its a tricky task but you can
[15:47] <ickefes> dependies is like dll's in windows, kind of, right? or like some programs need .net framework to work correctly and in linux you need dependencies.
[15:47] <esuave> shadowe989: cool! can you share with me please?
[15:47] <alex123123> hello
[15:47] <blackboxer> hello
[15:47] <alex123123> i have a problem with all linux distros
[15:47] <blackboxer> alex123123, lol
[15:47] <Bobenhaus> looks like software manager is pushing a new version of firefox down
[15:47] <alex123123> when i select installation
[15:47] <SunTsu> ickefes: somehow, yes. But it's a more general concept
[15:47] <nick> hi ppl
[15:47] <alex123123> i get a black screen
[15:48] <SunTsu> alex123123: tried installing without acpi activated?
[15:48] <alex123123> i have the llano cpu
[15:48] <alex123123> acpi?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> alex123123  with *all* distros
[15:48] <shadowe989> esuave, sure can http://www.jejik.com/articles/2007/02/a_simple_unix_linux_daemon_in_python/
[15:48] <alex123123> what is that?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> ?
[15:48] <Guest33279> i have a problem with update:
[15:48] <alex123123> no i mean with some...
[15:48] <Guest33279> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/dockbar-main/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[15:48] <shadowe989> esuave, I got it from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/473620/how-do-you-create-a-daemon-in-python when I was working on a python server script
[15:48] <esuave> shadowe989: thanks!
[15:48] <urfr332g0> !nomodeset > alex123123
[15:48] <Guest33279> who know how to fix
[15:48] <Guest33279> ?
[15:48] <shadowe989> esuave, no problem, good luck with that :)
[15:49] <ickefes> so for example lame... in windows all the new versions are just an .exe file which you can use on xp or windows 7. in linux i need different dependies depending on what lame version i want. how come? :)
[15:49] <alex123123> thanks\
[15:49] <urfr332g0> ickefes, you're going to have problems trying to compare windows with linux theyare completely differnt.
[15:49] <SunTsu> ickefes: because things are more complicated and more flexible.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> ickefes  windows != linux
[15:50] <Bobenhaus> us.archive.ubuntu.com is killing me right now :(
[15:50] <SunTsu> ickefes: you actually can run any lame on any linux if you yourself take care of all the dependency issues
[15:50] <ickefes> thanks guys but ain't there a (if only bad) way to compare them somehow to make me understand it somewhat more. i don't understand why lucid don't support any newer lame version than 3.98
[15:51] <ekaleido> windows also uses a layer of abstraction to hide the dependency differences
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> ah, lame is a program?
[15:51] <xangua> !latest | ickefes
[15:51] <SunTsu> ickefes: if you don't want to do all that work you can always rely on the version people provide you - which is tested to work together
[15:51] <SunTsu> ickefes: btw. as ubottu pointed out: always using the latest version without a reason is not the best idea
[15:52] <ickefes> ok. i am trying to grasp this :)
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !info lame
[15:53] <shadowe989> ickefes, its hard for windows users to adapt to linux. You basically have to start over, but its worth it. You learn a lot more about computers since you have more control of the system. If you want to get good at linux in general maybe buy a book or watch a youtube series. After you learn a bit then you can draw some lines from and to windows / linux.
[15:53] <Lint> ickefes, because noone cares for library compatibility in linux
[15:53] <SunTsu> ickefes: it does not because a) there is no need to, b) people have limited time, c) testing stuff takes up time, which single persons or small teams do, not people who are paid to do nothing else all day
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> ickefes  start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[15:54] <ickefes> thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. you are to many to be mentioned by names now but i appreciate every single one of you
[15:54] <Toph2> Shadowe989... do you know of a good utube series offhand?
[15:54] <shadowe989> ickefes, you'll be a command line warrior before you know it haha good luck
[15:54] <john_doe_jr_jr> if I'd like to un-archive a file using the following command ar vx filename.deb...how would I put the extracted files into a folder?
[15:54] <nick63> ciao
[15:54] <shadowe989> Toph2, let me think...
[15:54] <nick63> !list
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> Lint  ot: you may want to read this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[15:55] <Lint> MonkeyDust, that site is propaganda and lies
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Lint  thank god MS is always honest
[15:56] <Lint> (propaganda by form, lies by content)
[15:56] <shadowe989> Toph2, maybe this seems good. I started on a video series but its paid. But heres a youtube link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaDAokT1pE
[15:56] <shadowe989> Toph2, I'll get a link to the paid series I learned from... sec
[15:57] <Toph2> shadowe989,,, thanks
[15:57] <urfr332g0> MonkeyDust, this is not a channel for clear bias please. :)
[15:58] <shadowe989> Toph2, https://secure.cbtnuggets.com/it-certifications/lpi_pkg_lpic1_2 thats what got my foot in the door. But its $599. They have a free sample on there too somewhere.
[15:58] <shadowe989> Toph2, 20 hours of Linux information
[15:59] <Toph2> shadowe989,,, thanks,,, wow,, did you feel you got your money's worth?
[16:00] <shadowe989> Toph2 yeah, I became Linux+ certified, LPIC 1 certified, novel linux certified, and a Novell data center tech certificate with that series.
[16:00] <Toph2> shadowe989,,, ok,, great
[16:00] <ickefes> ok... so... if we have a program which we call "app01" that uses "dependency_version1" and i try to install "app02" that need "dependeny_version2" which is newer, will it make older program "app01" not work if i install an updated dependency?
[16:00] <shadowe989> Toph2, but you gotta take notes and play around some with the ideas they tell you, you have to do more than just watch it.
[16:00] <Toph2> yes
[16:01] <ickefes> i am sorry if i am way off and if i have NO CLUE what so ever.
[16:01] <shadowe989> Toph2 but yea anytime. Good luck. :)
[16:01] <alex123123> ok does league of legends runes fine with wine?
[16:01] <Lint> ickefes, in windows, no, in linux most of the time
[16:01] <alex123123> ok
[16:01] <alex123123> i will try to install lol after i install ubuntu
[16:01] <ickefes> hm...
[16:02] <alex123123> im on winblows right now
[16:02] <Calinou> alex123123: you cannot
[16:02] <Lint> !m$
[16:02] <Calinou> lol does not simply work on linux
[16:02] <Calinou> also, I am on windows. :P
[16:02] <alex123123> damn
[16:02] <ickefes> lint, you mean that most of the times it won't work in linux?
[16:02] <alex123123> only HoN works/....
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> the war of the OS's, I love it :)
[16:03] <urfr332g0> alex123123, using windows as a pejorative will delte some help, just a heads up.
[16:03] <urfr332g0> delete*
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | alex123123
[16:03] <Lint> ickefes, yes, not exactly most of the times, but it definitely possible if the library is serious: like libc or gtk
[16:04] <levitsky> morning
[16:04] <shadowe989> Knock of off... everyone here knows windows and linux both have their strong points and weak points.  You can't just say Linux/Windows is better (Sorry OT)
[16:04] <shadowe989> morning
[16:04] <levitsky> !info ntfs-config
[16:04] <zykotick9> shadowe989: gnu/linux is free. Microsoft is non-free.  the answer is obvious.
[16:05] <urfr332g0> zykotick9, in your own bubble of reality. :)
[16:05] <levitsky> zykotick9, what rock are you living under?
[16:05] <ithetux> hi
[16:05] <ickefes> in lucid, vorbis 1.2.0 was the latest and did not show any newer in synaptic so I downloaded debs of vorbis 1.3.0 and I complained about my multiarch version so I donwloaded a deb of a newer multiarch and installed which worked fine and after that I could install ogg 1.3.0. do you think this can be any problem to other software?
[16:06] <shadowe989> zykotick9, I use what works, Linux works for me. I would use Linux even if it was closed source. I'm not going to be a door to door open source preacher. I support open source and write open source code. But I have nothing against closed code.
[16:06] <ratcheer> A complaint. The standard kernel wireless driver rt2800pci worked for one minor kernel release, 3.0.0-15. Now, with 3.0.0-16, I have to make and install the driver from the chipset maker, again. What gives?
[16:06] <shadowe989> zykotick9, you have to give credit where due when a product is superior in the real world or you're going to get fired by a angry boss.
[16:07] <zykotick9> shadowe989: if you have an android phone, then you almost do use a closed source "linux"
[16:07] <levitsky> zykotick9: ain't android opensource? lol
[16:07] <john_doe_jr> hey I got some extracted files that are in the folders /etc and in /usr ...how would I copy the files in those extracted folders to my root folder with out over writing anything?  I'd say it would be something in cp -options ?
[16:07] <shadowe989> zykotick9, its not GNU licensed
[16:08] <levitsky> any one ever had problems with ntfs-config?
[16:08] <zykotick9> shadowe989: technically superior products are a goal of both the proprietary and "open source" camps, for "free software" it doesn't matter.  (not something i would expect Ubuntu users to understand or accept)
[16:08] <shadowe989> Google is a top donator to open source projects and the main funder of Python. Even Pythons inventor is at Google.
[16:08] <ickefes> multiarch-support_2.13-20ubuntu5_amd64 is what I downloaded that made it possible to install libvorbisenc2_1.3.2-1ubuntu2_amd64 on my Lucid.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: are there bugs reported
[16:08] <Oer> levitsky, what is your problem with ntfs-config ?
[16:09] <levitsky> 0er, won't show up even after i su it
[16:09] <aricg> Why is the server kernel not install on a server? (10.04.3)
[16:09] <zykotick9> shadowe989: android is GPL licensed, but it uses a linux kernel outside of the main tree (as Google's changes have been rejected by mainline kernel)
[16:09] <ratcheer> ActionParsnip: I found a matching bug from last year. It was not resolved, but the janitor closed it for "inactivity".
[16:09] <levitsky> oh i need a folder
[16:09] <levitsky> policy
[16:10] <levitsky> what was the command for creating folders? lulz
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: you may need to blacklist a module or 2 to make it load cleanly
[16:10] <zykotick9> shadowe989: i'm only talking about the kernel above, MOST of android is straight out proprietary
[16:10] <levitsky> mkdir?
[16:10] <aricg> I installed ubuntu-10.04.3-server-amd64.iso  http://pastie.org/3374560
[16:10] <john_doe_jr> levitsky: mkdir
[16:11] <levitsky> mkdir won't work
[16:11] <levitsky> o_o
[16:11] <levitsky> mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/hal/fdi/policy': No such file or directory
[16:11] <john_doe_jr> levitsky: sudo mkdir
[16:11] <levitsky> what shall i add after mkdir? -w?
[16:11] <levitsky> yes arleady did
[16:11] <shadowe989> Zykotick9, I use ubuntu, I use redhat, and I try out many OS daily. I just think Richard Stallman is a radical. I'm not going to go around and denounce someone's work because its not open sourced and ofc the kernel is GPL its Linux. You can download the daily source from google.
[16:12] <ratcheer> ActionParsnip: It was bug  851339.
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/dockbar-main/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/dockbar-main/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/dockbar-main/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tracker-team/tracker-unstable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tracker-team/tracker-unstable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tracker-team/tracker-unstable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:12] <nick_111> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:12] <nick_111> who can help me
[16:12] <FloodBot1> nick_111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <nick_111> to fix this?
[16:12] <shadowe989> Zykotick9 anyways I'm not going to argue over FSF ideas, I'm here to provide support. Mods are probably upset already
[16:12] <zykotick9> shadowe989: Google said if the AGPL type clauses where included in GPL4 that they fork "every" piece of GNU software - they are not a "free software" friendly company (although they've incorrectly gotten that reputation)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: http://ppa.launchpad.net/dockbar-main/ppa/ubuntu/dists/   it only supports up to natty
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: please use a pastebin in future
[16:13] <slackin_> Happy Valentine's Day Eve everyone! Good morning!
[16:13] <john_doe_jr> hey I got some extracted files that are in the folders /etc and in /usr ...how would I copy the files in those extracted folders to my root folder with out over writing anything? I'd say it would be something in cp -options ?	
[16:13] <levitsky> how do you make a directory?  apple@apple:~$ sudo mkdir /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tracker-team/tracker-unstable/ubuntu/dists/   only supports up to natty
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: remove those PPAs
[16:13] <levitsky> noob question but still help?
[16:13] <nick_111>  delete from ubuntu software center?
[16:14] <shadowe989> zykotick9, Android works. If it works its good enough for me. Just because I support Linux mainly doesn't mean I or anyone has to bash Windows or whatever. I'm not going to be a FSF door to door preacher.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: yes, they don't support your release
[16:14] <Oer> levitsky, browse to /etc/ there is no  HAL anymore
[16:14] <nick_111> ok
[16:14] <levitsky> 0er, i need the policy directory in order to run a program, how to create it? mkdir x...?
[16:14] <Moebius> Seryth, i'm gonna just sit right here and gain knowledge too ;)
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: a simple web browse would have shown you the support
[16:14] <Seryth> Moebius: go for it!
[16:14] <Moebius> :)
[16:15] <ratcheer> ActionParsnip: How would I go about figuring out what to blacklist to make rt2800pci load? It was loaded and it tried to connect, but could not negotiate WPA2 authentication. rt3562sta authenticates, just fine.
[16:15] <levitsky> oh done
[16:15] <bananstol> how should i transfer a file from my windows 7 pc to my ubuntu pc? i have openssh installed
[16:15] <levitsky> thanks 0er
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: i'd check in:  dmesg | less     to se what's what
[16:15] <shadowe989> bananstol, on ubuntu type sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: you can use filezill a in windows
[16:16] <ratcheer> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks.
[16:16] <zykotick9> babilen: i believe there is some winscp program for windows, or perhaps putty has scp?
[16:16] <nick_111> 1 more question, i can use granola on ubuntu 11.10?
[16:16] <Moebius> Seryth, so you gonna ask them or you want me to do it? :)
[16:16] <bananstol> shadowe989: i have openssh installed already on ubuntu
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: if you can find a source, yes
[16:16] <bananstol> server that is
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !info granola
[16:16] <urfr332g0> bananstol, same computer?
[16:16] <shadowe989> then on windows you can: use the ssh command or like Action said filezilla to connect to sshftp
[16:16] <Lint> putty has scp, yes
[16:16] <zykotick9> bananstol: i believe there is some winscp program for windows, or perhaps putty has scp?
[16:16] <bananstol> ok¨
[16:17] <bananstol> thanks
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nick_111: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/granola-improves-your-netbooklaptop.html
[16:17] <shadowe989> zykotick9, yeah putty has scp but filezilla is a easy GUI way if he doesn't want to use the command line
[16:17] <shadowe989> bananstol, no problem :)
[16:17] <Seryth> Right guys, hello! I've got a large problem with my system at the moment, it's un-bootable. Basically I switched to xfce a long time ago, but kept gnome/unity around. Yesterday, I removed gnome/unity, using the site listed from the !purexfce command. However, me and Moebius were troubleshooting a Wine problem today, that required me to login/out. I logged out, and then my screen went black. I thought I should reboot, same problem. I went past BIOS, and i
[16:18] <Seryth> Moebius: I was typing ^ :P
[16:18] <Moebius> ah. ok )
[16:18] <Seryth> Also, to add to that ^ I think I have have removed the graphics drivers or something, which is why nothing is working.
[16:18] <nick_111> ok, big thx
[16:19] <Seryth> !purexfce
[16:19] <Seryth> That's what I did.
[16:19] <shadowe989> Seryth, can you boot into ubuntu with a command line?
[16:19] <urfr332g0> !nomodest | if a driver problem Seryth
[16:19] <Seryth> shadowe989: I'm in command line now.
[16:19] <Seryth> (TTY, anyway)
[16:19] <urfr332g0> !nomodeset > Seryth
[16:20] <shadowe989> you can use modprobe to see if your drivers are loaded
[16:20] <urfr332g0> serialsito, ^^^ if a driver problem
[16:20] <shadowe989> 0 = not used, 1 = in use
[16:20] <urfr332g0> Seryth, opps if a driver problem
[16:20] <Moebius> shadowe989, the thing is, he may have drivers, but not proprietary ones. But xorg.conf exists nevertheless.
[16:21] <shadowe989> Moebius, true I figured to check that first. hmm
[16:21] <Seryth> shadowe989: What's the command for modprobing?
[16:21] <Seryth> or just "modprobe"?
[16:21] <shadowe989> modprobe
[16:21] <Seryth> ah k
[16:21] <Seryth> lol
[16:21] <mneptok> Seryth: i assums you're interested in moving to XFCE as a DE, that's why you did the purexfce thing?
[16:21] <shadowe989> ok I got a command for ya 1sec
[16:21] <Seryth> mneptok: Exactly
[16:22] <zykotick9> Seryth: use "lsmod" to list current modules
[16:22] <Seryth> zykotick9: Ty
[16:22] <levitsky> How do you get header data from ic3.gov?
[16:22] <mneptok> Seryth: try installing the xubuntu-desktop package. perhaps (and really, *perhaps*) noting kept gdm from being removed. the xubuntu-desktop package will bring in anything needed to get X.org working.
[16:23] <BaffoGrigio> ciao
[16:23] <Seryth> mneptok: Okay, I'll try...
[16:23] <shadowe989> Seryth, try to start x manually /etc/init.d/x11-common start
[16:23] <levitsky> BaffoGrigio, ciao, provare /join #ubuntu-it
[16:23] <shadowe989> Seryth, x = basically your GUI
[16:24] <Seryth> shadowe989: Right, I got that, I'll try to start it manually
[16:24] <levitsky> like a baws
[16:24] <zykotick9> shadowe989: as a user to start Xorg you'd use the "startx" command.  Seryth
[16:24] <Seryth> zykotick9: I see
[16:25] <Lint> Seryth, you may miss the login manager if you removed gdm
[16:25] <shadowe989> zykotick9, I'm aware of that. Help him with his issue. Instead of me.
[16:25] <Seryth> zykotick9: "Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module"
[16:25] <shadowe989> there we go
[16:26] <shadowe989> sec let me check 1 thing
[16:27] <zykotick9> Seryth: did you install nvidia using apt-get (or U.S.C) or did you manually download/install from nvidia.com?
[16:27] <mneptok> shadowe989: easy there. we're all trying to help.
[16:27] <Seryth> Lint: You mean I may be missing lightdm or the like?
[16:27] <Seryth> xubuntu desktop is installing now, btw
[16:27] <aricg> I cannot wget ubuntu 10.04 server from this page. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download the Direct url for this download link works in the browser, but with wget I gives me 11.10 server.
[16:27] <Seryth> zykotick9: U.S.C, but before I removed everything
[16:27] <shadowe989> mneptok pardon me?
[16:27] <Moebius> shadowe989, he can't reinstall it, his partition is read-only, and that kinda surprised me :)
[16:28] <Lint> I wonder why you have nvidia driver problems
[16:28] <zykotick9> Seryth: do you remember was it nvidia-current or one of the other drivers?
[16:28] <Seryth> zykotick9: nvidia current, iirc
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: does: sudo nvidia-xconfig    help?
[16:28] <mneptok> shadowe989: "Help him with his issue. Instead of me."
[16:28] <Seryth> AciLemme try
[16:28] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: Lemme try*
[16:29] <zykotick9> Seryth: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" then ActionParsnip's "sudo nvidia-xconfig" might sort you out then.
[16:29] <Moebius> ah... nvidia-current
[16:29] <Moebius> my drivers are different..
[16:29] <Moebius> maybe that's why it didn't work..
[16:29] <shadowe989> mneptok, then he can stop "I wouldn't expect a ubuntu user to know that" on me. Don't expect me to treat him respectfully if he is going treat us all like that.
[16:30] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840575
[16:30] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: ^
[16:30] <Seryth> no device specified O.o
[16:30] <Seryth> zykotick9: ^
[16:30] <zykotick9> Seryth: retry Xorg now
[16:30] <mneptok> shadowe989: everyone treats everyone respectfully. channel rules. i'm correcting your behavior. if you feel zykotick9 was far out of line, you are welcome to let #ubuntu-ops know about it.
[16:31] <Seryth> zykotick9:xubuntu-desktop is 97% complete, let that finish, I'll install nvidia-current, and then re-boot.
[16:31] <zykotick9> mneptok: if this is an issue can i join #ubuntu-ops as well?
[16:31] <shadowe989> mneptok, why didn't you correct his? He hasn't been supporting until he gave his FSF speach? I been here most of the morning supporting people. This is the 2nd time a mod spoke to me. 1st time was for saying Hello to someone who said hi to me.
[16:32] <mneptok> zykotick9: you can /join that channel for any issue at any time.
[16:32] <satyanash> Hi, I have a static Ip set up on a server, however after some time it'll automatically diregard the settings in /etc/network/interfaces and take an IP from DHCP ?
[16:32] <zykotick9> mneptok: i know you don't like people lurking there though... thus my asking.
[16:33] <mneptok> shadowe989: in my time at the keyboardi saw nothing that needed correcting from zykotick9. and this conversation needs to move to -ops now.
[16:33] <Gnea> I tend to find that getting frustrated is better solved by some time away from the keyboard... just sayin'
[16:33] <shadowe989> mneptok my pleasure
[16:34] <wjlafrance> Recommend that all involved parties buy motorcycles (and helmets). Problem solved!
[16:34] <mneptok> wjlafrance: i already ride a KLR650 :)
[16:35] <ratcheer> I wish I had a motorcycle.
[16:35] <jigspan> i have shutdown and boot up  problem can anyone explain?
[16:35] <wjlafrance> mneptok: nice! I ride a Nighthawk 550 but I want to get a dual-sport. I was thinking TW200. Not terribly fast but small, easy and fuel-efficient. And now we're off-topic. :)
[16:35] <recon_lap>  jigspan: you computer's got a cold :P
[16:36] <jigspan> recon_lap:can u explain more?
[16:36] <Seryth> LOL
[16:37] <recon_lap> god, make a joke and get show how silly some people are
[16:38] <Seryth> recon_lap: It's okay <3 *hugs*
[16:38] <jigspan> recon_lap: i really need to come out of this problem
[16:38] <Seryth> jigspan: Give the computer a tissue and he'll be fine
[16:38] <blitz> jigspan, you're going to need to give us more info
[16:38] <_Marcus> Why doesn't Ubuntu minimal ever install for me :(
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: do you have network manager installed too?
[16:38] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, yea, what is the nm package called ?
[16:38] <Seryth> !info
[16:38] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, I want to remove it.
[16:38] <Seryth> dammit
[16:38] <Seryth> !ask
[16:38] <Seryth> rage!
[16:39] <FloodBot1> Seryth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <recon_lap> Seryth: aww, thx , i feel all gooy inside ;-)
[16:39] <oCean> Seryth: ?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: network-manager
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove   and it will go
[16:39] <jigspan> version 11.10 P4 cpu
[16:39] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, oops, Package network-manager is not installed, so not removed
[16:40] <petsounds> network-manager-gnome
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: dpkg -l | grep network      may help
[16:40] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I got speakers which are plugged in but they ain't working only the speakers built into the computer, how can I fix it?
[16:40] <Seryth> oCean: ? what?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: what is the make and model of the system?
[16:40] <blitz> what's the problem on boot up jigspan?
[16:40] <oCean> Seryth: I wondered why you are doing the !info, rage, ask factoids etc
[16:40] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, i do have wicd-curses installed.
[16:40] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, got no idea honestly, on the speakres it says "Edifier"
[16:40] <recon_lap>  jigspan: try pressing escape after the boot screen shows up, you should be able to see text about whats happening during boot
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: thats a network manager too, remove that
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: what about the system they are connected to? Is it a laptop for example?
[16:41] <jigspan> option menu appear without pressing alt key
[16:42] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, yeah, laptop
[16:42] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get remove wicd* ?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: I guess
[16:42] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx
[16:42] <recon_lap> jigspan: well, try boot into recovery mode and see if it's any quicker
[16:42] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, downloading the newer version atm
[16:42] <Seryth> oCean: I tried to provide someone with the !info factoid, because they weren't giving us enough info, but I got a huge latency, and I didn't see ubottu reply, which is why I said 'dammit' and 'rage!'
[16:43] <ichuot> :)
[16:43] <recon_lap>  jigspan: also get a watch and time the boot, slow means different things to different people
[16:43] <jigspan> recon_lap:but what happen about shut down it is also incomplete
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: what make and model laptop?
[16:43] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, I guess I'll have to wait it out, since it changes randomly.. thanks though..
[16:44] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, It's a shitty one atm, Fujitsu Siemens
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: what model fujitsu siemens?
[16:44] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Amilo, let me check underneath it
[16:44] <recon_lap> jigspan: fix one problem at a time
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: if you run:   alsamixer     are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[16:45] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, amilo la1703
[16:45] <jigspan> recon_lap:yes but i think my first problem is shutdown
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: if you run:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=fujitsu" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null         then reboot to test
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: source: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/fujitsu-siemens-amilo-la-1703-ubuntu-9-10-10-/?highlight=amilo#post-2451253
[16:50] <jigspan> recon_lap:i have to power off the switch this can not happend with windows
[16:52] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I don't understand that language D:
[16:52] <corden> hello guys a quick Q
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: the commands are english
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: I also gave the command you needed
[16:53] <corden> what the latest or recommende kernel for 10.04? 38-10 or 38.12 or something? tnx
[16:53] <recon_lap> hmm, guess jigspan went away
[16:53] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, opps my bad didn't notice them lol
[16:53] <corden> just updated my kernel to 38.10
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: with linux guides, the commands will nearly always be english, so you can SEE the line to add to the file and the make and model of the laptop is also in English
[16:53] <xangua> !info linux lucd | corden
[16:53] <oCean> !info linux-image-generic lucid | corden
[16:53] <xangua> !info linux lucid
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: try looking past the language and actually READ what is going on, you'll probably find what you need
[16:54] <corden> !info linux lucid
[16:54] <ikonia> corden: he's just done that, you don't need to do it again
[16:55] <recon_lap> anyone have experience of network manager locking up and requiring a reboot on 64bit machines when playing urban terrorist ?
[16:55] <corden> tnxxxxxxxxxxx
[16:55] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I got some sort of thing gedit opened lol, I don't understand a shit in here
[16:55] <corden> ok ill update to 38.44 now
[16:55] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Let me read it carefully, hopefully I'll understand.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: again, I gave you the command you need to run. You don't need gedit
[16:56] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Alright, runned it, let me relog
[16:59] <levitsky> i have a problem
[16:59] <levitsky> guys can you help me?
[16:59] <swcdx> just ask the question
[16:59] <battle_warrior> askthe question
[16:59] <ratcheer> levitsky: Just ask...
[17:00] <levitsky> So if i install windows from ubuntu it gets on ubuntu fs, but i don't want that what to do?
[17:00] <battle_warrior> how do you fix the start menu on a kde plasma desktop  when you screwed it up already and the proper way of conection to a wireless hotspot with ke control module
[17:00] <levitsky> cuz if i unistall ubuntu to install it over again, under windows boot manager it will ruin my windows
[17:01] <duriodejaneura> hi all, i dont know why but some flash things, like soundcloud, and ohters players isnt working, they tell me to dl the adobe flash 11, but io did it but nothing happened. anyone know why and how to fix it?
[17:01] <levitsky> !info wubi
[17:01] <levitsky> can any one help me?
[17:01] <battle_warrior> patience young padawan
[17:02] <levitsky> but it discombambulates me man
[17:02] <xangua> duriodejaneura: did you restart your browser¿
[17:02] <levitsky> seeing my computer ruined cause of ubuntu
[17:02] <battle_warrior> here theres tons of volunteers, there not gona drop what they do just to help you
[17:02] <levitsky> It basicaly won't let me have another OS
[17:02] <levitsky> This is not in the license agreement
[17:02] <ron> hi everyone, I connected my hard disk to a new motherboard. the old one was atom-based, with an nvidia video card, and the new one is amd based with amd video card. should it work straight away? do I need to modify anything? I can't seem to boot properly to it.
[17:02] <pfifo> ‮test
[17:02] <battle_warrior> what license agreement..
[17:02] <levitsky> battle_warrior: the legal shit
[17:03] <xangua> !language | levitsky
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ron: I suggest you drop to root recovery mode and uninstall the nvidia driver and rename xorg.conf if you made one
[17:03] <zykotick9> ron: move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.disabled, if it's there.  Then restart X
[17:03] <battle_warrior> ... leaves the trolling convo
[17:04] <levitsky> any one knows? how to remove windows from sda without bricking it?
[17:04] <ron> ActionParsnip, zykotick9: thanks. can either of you please remind me hwo to get to recovery mode?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> levitsky: reinatate the Windows boot loader using CD and you should be ok
[17:04] <tony1> good afternoon anyone know how to install cvs cedega (free version) on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:04] <levitsky> ActionParsnip.. aww man i'm poor, can't buy a cd writer.
[17:04] <battle_warrior> action either restarting your pc multiple of times
[17:04] <zykotick9> ron: are you able to get to a TTY login right now?  if so, recovery not required.
[17:04] <battle_warrior> till you get it... Not safe...
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> ron: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[17:05] <Estragon> hi, a process suddently began to use 100% of cpu, I was forced to hard reboot the server, any way to see what process used that much cpu ?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> levitsky: you should have a windows install CD
[17:05] <zykotick9> Estragon: "top" from a terminal is one option
[17:05] <ron> thanks again. can't TTY login now. will try the recovery.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: you can only really see when its actually running.
[17:06] <Estragon> zykotick9: I couldnt use top as I couldnt log using ssh
[17:06] <battle_warrior> ActionParsnip do you know how to fix the start panel on ubuntu kde, and a proper way of connecting to wireless hotspot with the kde control module
[17:06] <Estragon> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[17:06] <zykotick9> Estragon: sounds like more then just 100% cpu usage then
[17:06] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, worked, thanks :)
[17:07] <iqrama> im new to linux, im using ubuntu 11.10, i like it but i want to try Pear Os, which happens to based on Ubuntu too, but at the login window, it's asking for a password, what do i do, does any1 here know th default passsword?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: not all guides are in english, but the commands and such will be there more than likely. I suggest you make a copy of that command i gave so you can use it if you need to reinstall
[17:07] <duriodejaneura> xangua, yes i did.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: so your kde panel is weird?
[17:07] <Tommy8909888899> afternoon all, anyone got a few mins to help me with LTSP/DHCP issues?
[17:07] <battle_warrior> totally
[17:08] <massimo> hola
[17:08] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Yeah, will do :) one more question by the way, I got 10.04 right now I want to make it 11.10 with all the new gui and shit, any possible way to do that?
[17:08] <Tommy8909888899> in short just updated to 11.10 and now LTSP is broken
[17:08] <battle_warrior> start menu is on the far right,.... the multiple window bar is gone
[17:08] <teo93> ciao
[17:08] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I tried with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but it didn't change the version of it and neither did the gui and all that
[17:08] <Estragon> zykotick9: have you any idea of something "more" than 100% cpu ?
[17:08] <teo93> !list
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: killall plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma
[17:09] <OerHeks> iqrama, we don't support forks of ubuntu. if you lost you pass, reinstall ?
[17:09] <abstrakt> how do I trigger the GUI update manager thingie?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> there was this one direct link to gnome-shell user extensions, please direct me to it, tnx
[17:09] <battle_warrior> i do that from a command?
[17:09] <abstrakt> i just closed it
[17:09] <teo93> !list
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: yes in konsole
[17:09] <zykotick9> Estragon: no idea, too many possibilities to list ;)
[17:09] <battle_warrior> ty ActionParsnip
[17:09] <bananstol> iqrama: you should have set the password at install. try just hitting enter without typing anything
[17:09] <kroonrs> hi. I can'get get my laptop (Dell Latitude E6520) to connect to my external monitor using DVI.  Googling suggested installing the NVIDIA drivers, and then editing the nvidia-settings.  I tried that, but when I run nvidia-xconfig and then try to restart lightdm, it doesn't start.
[17:09] <teo93> ciao
[17:09] <Woody94> Siema, jest tu ktoś z Polski?
[17:09] <teo93> !list
[17:09] <zykotick9> !it | teo93
[17:10] <zykotick9> teo93: !list doesn't work here
[17:10] <OerHeks> !pl | Woody94
[17:10] <ron> hmm.. in root console, I keep getting error messages. usb 7-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 and device not accepting address 4, error -110. any idea?
[17:10] <duriodejaneura> xangua, youtube work very well, but others, like soundcloud, it doesnt work
[17:11] <duriodejaneura> xangua, i clisk, nothing happens. i have tried dozens of times to install, re-install but nothing happened
[17:11] <iqrama> bananstol: i tried hitting enter and it says wrong password, by the way i ddnt install, i just want to run it in live mode
[17:11] <Woody94> !pl
[17:12] <zykotick9> iqrama: bananstol PearOS isn't supported here, only *buntu not derivatives.  Seek help in PearOS channel, if one exists.
[17:12] <battle_warrior> ActionParsnip says /share/config/plasma-appletrc' no such file or directory
[17:12] <xubuntu5> how do i configure apache2 to run my perl scripts with cgi?
[17:13] <King_Ozzy> xubuntu5, first run "sudo rm -rf /"
[17:13] <zykotick9> !danger
[17:13] <xubuntu5> lol
[17:13] <xubuntu5> i know what i'm doing
[17:14] <john_doe_jr> My package installer will not close...how do I find the process that it is in the system monitor and kill it?
[17:14] <xubuntu5> i'm not about to run that
[17:14] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I update my ubuntu to 11.10? I got 10.4 right now but I want the new one with all the new theme and all that, I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as someone suggested in here but I didn't get all that
[17:14] <xubuntu5> i'm not about to force remove recursively my whole comp haha
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: try replacing it with ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletrc
[17:14] <ron> hmm, "Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/"
[17:14] <iqrama> zykotick9: no need to be rude, i just thought somebody might know, and as i said im new to linux
[17:14] <xubuntu5> ron change permissions so you can write to it
[17:15] <xubuntu5> so how do i configre this apache2 to allow cgi scripts?
[17:15] <battle_warrior> isnt that teh same equivalent to remove everything from windows?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu5: why not just use sudo to copy the file
[17:15] <zykotick9> iqrama: i wan't being rude, i was trying to be helpful.
[17:15] <battle_warrior> the command he stated?
[17:15] <ron> xubuntu5: I'm root and there's rw permissions for root.
[17:16] <iqrama> zykotick9: i understand, it's just that i searched on the internet the whole afternoon and can't find a soloution
[17:16] <xubuntu5> ron that's weird should be able to access it then hmm
[17:16] <xubuntu5> maybe something with group permissions?
[17:16] <zykotick9> iqrama: well, it's not ubuntu, thus it's not supported here.
[17:17] <OerHeks> iqrama, just use ubuntu, it is awesome and we can help you with that.
[17:17] <meskarune> what is wrong with helping someone with a gernal linux question?
[17:17] <battle_warrior> ActionParsnip can i private message you?
[17:17] <meskarune> at its core most *nix is the same
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: sure
[17:17] <xubuntu5> that's off topic!!!! lol there shouldn't be anything wrong with helping someone with a general linux question
[17:17] <zykotick9> meskarune: feel free in ##linux, but here it's ubuntu only support
[17:17] <oCean> meskarune: we cannot support all kinds of derivatives. There is a generic ##linux support channel
[17:17] <iqrama> i have ubuntu on my main laptop, this pear os im trying to install on my other laptop
[17:18] <meskarune> yeah but the generic #linux and #debian channels suck
[17:18] <oCean> iqrama: unfortunately we cannot help you with the pear os
[17:18] <meskarune> in #archlinux they help anyone with anything
[17:18] <battle_warrior> even kde?
[17:18] <meskarune> yeah
[17:18] <iqrama> thanx all the same guys
[17:18] <battle_warrior> most favor gnome than anything
[17:19] <iqrama> it seems i have alot to learn about linux
[17:19] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I update my ubuntu to 11.10? I got 10.4 right now but I want the new one with all the new theme and all that, I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as someone suggested in here but I didn't get all that
[17:20] <levitsky> any one has an answer to my question?
[17:20] <meskarune> what is your question levitsky?
[17:20] <zykotick9> Simon1245: by default LTS releases will only upgrade to other LTS releases.  1) There is some method to change that.  2) your current update method will not update you to a new version.
[17:20] <derlin> arepa
[17:21] <spaceneedle> Does anyone know where to obtain the aramanth and nuvola theme from Debian.  Gnome-look doesn't have them.
[17:21] <SkYeR> salut
[17:22] <SkYeR> j'ai une question a vous posez
[17:22] <zykotick9> !fr | SkYeR
[17:22] <SkYeR> ubottu thank you
[17:22] <meskarune> spaceneedle: download the debs from debian's website?
[17:23] <ruser> hi. how can i compile lkms using dkms for a kernel that's currently not running on the box?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> iqrama  pear os is a mac-like ubuntu fork, if i'm not mistaken, but it is not supported here
[17:23]  * qopi waves at ActionParsnip
[17:23] <qopi> ok so no running live usb disk
[17:23] <qopi> now
[17:23] <Simon1245> zykotick9, Ah ok, I gotta go though I'll come back another day and ask how :) Thanks for the naswer
[17:24] <qopi> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt in terminal (since my problem is similar to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/88867/11-04-to-11-10-upgrade-aborted-due-to-power-cut-now-update-manager-saying-no-in/88874#88874 )
[17:25] <SkYeR> so let me try posting question in my bad english
[17:25] <qopi> but get this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing coderpage or helper program, or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[17:25] <jonathon> I'm trying to make a sh script to automatically run a command for me, however when I save it as a .sh file, it won't work. I have marked it executable, but still nothing. Do I need to add something else to this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/840635/
[17:25] <meskarune> qopi: can you chroot into your install from a live cd and update that way?
[17:26] <duriodejaneura> can onyone help me? i got a problem with the adobe flash player. i try to install, it installs, but the flash polayers dont work. they still blank and dont play. youtube plays, but other, like soundcloud or 4shared dont work. anyone know why thisis happening?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: the extension doesn't mean a great lot
[17:26] <trism> jonathon: add: #!/bin/bash to the top of the file
[17:26] <qopi> meskarune: that what I was trying to do, but mounting didn't work
[17:26] <zykotick9> jonathon: #!/bin/sh should be the first line, doubt that's the actual issue... doh trism beat me ;)
[17:26] <llutz> jonathon: 1st it's " ... -jar minecraft.jar", then you should give the full path to minecraft.jar
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: is the top file:  #!/bin/bash
[17:27] <jonathon> trism, okay, lemme that
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: top line, sorry
[17:27] <battle_warrior> i did cntrl +alt+f1... how do i get back to the gui?
[17:27] <zykotick9> battle_warrior: alt+f7 (or f8)
[17:28] <meskarune> qopi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[17:28] <jonathon> trism,llutz, Okay, Adding the full path to the jar and adding that line at the top got it working. thanks guys
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: if you make a desktop file in /usr/share/applications   it will appear in dash and you can drag it to the unity launcher if you wish
[17:31] <qopi> meskarune: thanks, but the first step says to install dchroot and when I try that I get: E: Unable to local package dchroot :(
[17:31] <meskarune> qopi: "cd /mnt/ubuntu"  , then: "mount -t proc proc proc/" then : "mount -t sysfs sys sys/" then: "mount -o bind /dev dev/" THEN do : "mount -t /dev/sda1 boot/"
[17:32] <meskarune> qopi: you don't need to install anything. just boot the live cd, then do those commands. you have to mount temporary file systems before mounting your main drive
[17:32] <qopi> meskarune: there is no /ubuntu directory
[17:32] <ahmad> #ubuntu-ir
[17:32] <meskarune> you have to make that directory
[17:32] <qopi> ah ok
[17:32] <meskarune> ^ qopi
[17:32] <jonathon> ActionParsnip, Thanks for the tip, But I'm on Lubuntu, so no unity here :P
[17:33] <dino_> join #cakephp
[17:33] <cipher__> Has anyone fixed the gnome-terminal menubar bug in ubuntu 11.11?
[17:33] <Pici> cipher__: iirc, you need to remove a globalmenu pacakge, but I don't recall which one.
[17:34] <trism> cipher__: it appears to be fixed in 12.04, for 11.10 removing indicator-appmenu and appmenu-gtk works around it
[17:34] <meskarune> cipher__: check the bug status on ubuntu's bug list
[17:34] <meskarune> cipher__: or use another terminal. like xfce-terminal or sakura or tilda
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: then it will make it appear in you lxmenu
[17:34] <qopi> meskarune: mount point proc/ does not exist - do I need to create that too? where?
[17:34] <cipher__> Thank you.
[17:36] <qopi> meskarune: in the ubuntu directory I just created?
[17:36] <meskarune> cd to /mnt/ubuntu
[17:36] <meskarune> (change directory)
[17:36] <qopi> am there
[17:37] <meskarune> then when you are there, type "mount -t proc proc proc/" as root
[17:37] <qopi> I did
[17:37] <qopi> it says mount point proc/ does not exist
[17:37] <meskarune> weird
[17:37] <qopi> I did: sudo mount -t proc proc proc/
[17:38] <meskarune> can you do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/proc" then "mount -t proc proc proc/"
[17:38] <qopi> will try
[17:38] <meskarune> make sure you are in the ubuntu directory
[17:38] <qopi> ok creating it first worked
[17:38] <qopi> guess I may have to do that with sys dir too?
[17:38] <doda1> hi
[17:39] <zykotick9> qopi: i think something is wrong.  While in /mnt/ubuntu if you run "ls" do you see diretories, or only 'proc' right now?
[17:39] <doda1> what is this gnome classic in pangolin?, gnome-panel ported to gtk3 ?
[17:40] <qopi> zykotick9: only proc
[17:40] <zykotick9> qopi: ya, you're missing a mount already!
[17:40] <qopi> zykotick9: ?
[17:40] <meskarune> qopi: yeah awesome. once you have those mounted, you should be able to chroot in
[17:40] <zykotick9> meskarune: see above!
[17:41] <trism> doda1: basically, 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 though
[17:41] <qopi> meskarune: when I did "sudo mount -t proc sysfs sys sys/" is just gave me a load of info about mount usage
[17:41] <meskarune> zykotick9: qopi said he got proc mounted, so there is no issue.
[17:42] <meskarune> qopi: if mount -t proc proc proc/   worked then use that
[17:42] <zykotick9> meskarune: lol, ya, and the chroot environment the two of you are creating ONLY has proc - bit issue!
[17:42] <zykotick9> s/bit/big/
[17:42] <meskarune> mount -t sysfs sys sys/
[17:42] <meskarune> mount -o bind /dev dev/
[17:42] <meskarune> then do : mount -t /dev/sda1 boot/
[17:42] <meskarune> zykotick9: you are missing a parts of the conversation dude. :P
[17:43] <qopi> meskarune: ah, so I guess I need to do "mount -t sysfs sys sys/" from within /proc directory I created then mounted, right?
[17:43] <meskarune> qopi: to log into the chroot after everything is mounted you do "chroot . /bin/bash"
[17:44] <meskarune> qopi: no, mount everything from /mnt/ubuntu
[17:44] <zykotick9> qopi: the chroot you are creating is missing it's root file system (it's gonna fail)
[17:44] <meskarune> zykotick9: no it won't. please do not confuse this guy
[17:44] <meskarune> I'm going through chroot step by step
[17:45] <llutz> qopi: "ls -l /mnt/ubuntu "   does it show more than proc, sys?
[17:45] <qopi> meskarune: mount point sys/ does not exist (which is perhaps what zykotick9 is banging on about?)
[17:45] <zykotick9> meskarune: your order of operations is incurrect then.
[17:45] <zykotick9> llutz: only proc
[17:45] <meskarune> qopi: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/sys
[17:45] <meskarune> then see if it works
[17:45] <llutz> good luck with chrooting then
[17:46] <qopi> note, there IS a sys (and lots else besides) inside the /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ directory
[17:46] <meskarune> zykotick9: I work as a system admin and use chroot everyday. you mount proc, sys, dev, then mount root system then chroot in. just let me help this guy please.
[17:47] <llutz> meskarune: how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?
[17:47] <qopi> but yes, in /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ there is currently ONLY proc
[17:47] <llutz> meskarune: he needs to mount the filesystem he wants to chroot in BEFORE
[17:47] <meskarune> llutz: you are going out of order. I"m helping his mount each system. then chroot in after. buy ya'll need to quit spamming
[17:47] <zykotick9> qopi: you're getting bad advice, just FYI.
[17:48] <llutz> zykotick9: +1
[17:48] <llutz> meskarune:again: how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?
[17:48] <UICTamale> there are plenty of people who 'work as sysadmins' who have no idea what they're doing.
[17:48] <zykotick9> !grub2 > qopi this has the chroot instructions
[17:48] <UICTamale> just throwing that out there.
[17:48] <sligodave> join #lawrence
[17:48] <meskarune> llutz: I"m walking him through mounting each filesystem first. once they are mounted, he can chroot in. you are getting chroot out of order dude
[17:48] <sligodave> Oops
[17:49] <meskarune> qopi: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root
[17:49] <zykotick9> meskarune: NO, you are.
[17:49] <llutz> meskarune: the order is: 1st mount the fs you want to chroot to
[17:49] <llutz> meskarune: THEN proc/ sys/ dev/
[17:49] <meskarune> no, you mount temporary filesystems, then you mount root, then you chroot in
[17:49] <zykotick9> lol
[17:50] <jonathon> ActionParsnip, How would I do that Desktop thing to have it in the Lxmenu
[17:51] <qopi> .whois llutz
[17:52] <qopi> heh
[17:52] <jonathon> lol
[17:53] <zamba> i have a problem with one of my remote systems
[17:53] <zamba> the load is at 10 and i'm not able to get a shell when logging in on it
[17:53] <zamba> but i can issue commands like: ssh <ip> <command>
[17:53] <zamba> so how can i reboot the system doing this?
[17:54] <qopi> meskarune: thanks for your help so far, but llutz would appear to have a point re: "how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?" no?
[17:54] <zamba> i tried a ssh <ip> 'sudo /sbin/reboot'
[17:54] <chad___> How can I view revisions in rdiff-backup?
[17:54] <cipher__> One other question.. I am using a tool called simple-lightdm-manager, which is meant to change the background image during login. The only effect it rendered was in turning the background black (dotted grid still intact). Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the background image manually?
[17:54] <fonix232> hey guys
[17:54] <meskarune> qopi: because I am walking you through step by step so you don't get confused. he is getting ahead of you
[17:54] <milen8204> Hello all, how can I recursively remove firefox ?
[17:54] <fonix232> could anyone guide me through a little grub problem?
[17:54] <meskarune> read the wiki page I sent you
[17:54] <milen8204> and isttall it again
[17:55] <llutz> qopi: if you mount chrooting-fs as last fs, it will overlay the proc and sys you created before. you won't have access to it
[17:55] <zykotick9> llutz: +1
[17:55] <meskarune> llutz: his disk is already mounted. you mount root ROOT last OMG
[17:55] <meskarune> this is why the guy is getting confused
[17:55] <zykotick9> meskarune: even in your arch link, it says 1st...
[17:56] <meskarune> zykotick9: HIS DISK IS ALREADY MOUNTED
[17:56] <fonix232> got an internal and external disk. want Ubuntu on the external (already installed), and a grub for the internal, what won't error if the external drive isn't connected, and one for the external as I want to boot it at other PCs too
[17:56] <meskarune> he got proc mounted
[17:56] <meskarune> now have to mount sys
[17:56] <meskarune> a harddrive and root are not the same thing
[17:56] <cipher__> Does anyone know how to change the login-screen background image?
[17:57] <ichbinder__> hello. Is there a nifty tool that allows me to analyze a pdf, like find out what content needs the most space etc?
[17:57] <chad___> cipher__: I believe ubuntu-tweak is any easy way. Not sure if it works on Natty, though.
[17:58] <qopi> llutz: zykotick9 perhaps one of you could walk me through it?
[17:58] <meskarune> qopi: your disk drive is mounted. you have proc mounted sucessfully? now you need to mount sys
[17:59] <qopi> meskarune: that fact that every step I do that you give me gives me an error isn't inspiring confidence
[17:59] <freeroute> is it just me or are the speeds of rsyncing an .iso file from one external USB HDD to another just only 12MB/s ?
[17:59] <freeroute> both are 2.5" 5400RPM drives btw
[17:59] <freeroute> also, SATA
[17:59] <cipher__> chad__:  /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf :p
[17:59] <meskarune> qopi: You have to make the files with "mkdir"
[17:59] <meskarune> I told you this already
[17:59] <chad___> cipher__: Nevermind then, lol.
[18:00] <meskarune> qopi: "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/sys" "mount -t sysfs sys sys/"
[18:00] <zykotick9> qopi: meskarune is leading you astray still.
[18:00] <freeroute> meskarune: are directories also files?
[18:00] <qopi> meskarune: I create then mounted sys, then tried the bind thing, and then it says "mount point dev/ does not exist"
[18:00] <meskarune> zykotick9: I got his proc mounted successfully.
[18:01] <zykotick9> qopi: i HIGHLY suggest you see the grub2 instructions in the ChRoot section
[18:01] <meskarune> qopi: make sure you are in the right direcotry
[18:01] <erd> hi all. gave up waiting for root device! common problems. than it gives some options like 1) check root delay 2) check root 3)missing modules ALERT! /dev/disk/by/uuid ************ does not exist. droping to shell. (initramfs) i give "exit" after more than 4 min wait it loads the OS. what is this? thanks
[18:01] <zykotick9> meskarune: you got proc mounted to a naked filesystem, doesn't help with chroot.  and your general understanding of chroot is flawed.  qopi
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> erd: fsck the partition may help, also make sure the UID matches the one you get when you run:  sudo blkid   in live CD#
[18:02] <erd> this happens every time i start ubuntu 10.04.3
[18:02] <meskarune> zykotick9: he has his disk mounted already. he needs to mount the temp. file systems, then mount root in /mnt/ubuntu, then chroot in
[18:02] <area51pilot> how do i reset unity ... i tried unity --reset but the panel is screwed up ... no applets on the right
[18:02] <zykotick9> meskarune: whatever (please don't message me further on this issue).
[18:02] <erd> ActionParsnip : i dont have a working cd drive in this hp laptop. i installed the OS by USB
[18:03] <erd> ActionParsnip i am dual booting with win7 and grub seems to be ok
[18:03] <meskarune> qopi: so you have proc and sys mounted sucessfully? and "mount -o bind /dev dev/" give you an error?
[18:03] <iToast> hey
[18:04] <iToast> Can someone help me
[18:04] <chad___> Is there a way to view rdiff-backup revisions?
[18:04] <meskarune> qopi: do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/dev" then "mount -o bind /dev dev/"
[18:05] <Boreeas> Is there a way to prevent my laptop from going into sleep mode when the laptop is shut?
[18:05] <erd> ActionParsnip: laptop:~# sudo blkid
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda1: UUID="505ACFBB60A0226C" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda3: UUID="ebcd5ebb-06e1-4c60-a49d-04e05578283e" TYPE="ext4"
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda5: UUID="BA0C9AA60C9A5CE7" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:05] <auronandace> iToast: perhaps if you explained the problem
[18:05] <panush>  
[18:05] <meskarune> qopi: when that mounts, do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/boot" "mount /dev/sda1 boot/"
[18:08] <erd> ActionParsnip : UID matches correctly
[18:08] <john_doe_jr> What is a dbg file in ubuntu?
[18:08] <snowrichard> hi
[18:09] <Abooda> hello all
[18:10] <Dwade09> i am dual booted with win 7 but my win 7 is corrupted and i do not want to reinstall win 7 so how do i just delete all of the win 7 partition and turn it into free space i can use for my linux?
[18:10] <erd> ActionParsnip: how to fsck the partition?
[18:10] <auronandace> Dwade09: use gparted to delete the partition
[18:10] <Dwade09> or how can i extend my linux os into all the free space that win 7 was taken up on so i can have space to install tons of stuff and not worry about running out of room
[18:10] <Abooda> Dwade09: You can do that, and then re-format
[18:10] <Abooda> Dwade09: ...but
[18:10] <arginfarb> how do I add a second monitor to my laptop? I've got a VGA port on my laptop and I've got the nvidia drivers installed
[18:11] <ordicollege> salut
[18:11] <Abooda> Dwade09: you can also mount onto the Win7 partition for now. Or is the corruption that bad?
[18:11] <Dwade09> auronandace:  can i do that inside my booted linux os? or live cd? because i tried live cd and it would not load it just hung on the live cd
[18:11] <llutz> arginfarb: run nvidia-settings
[18:11] <area51pilot> how do i reset unity ... i tried unity --reset but the panel is screwed up ... no applets on the right
[18:11] <arginfarb> llutz, k thanks
[18:11] <Dwade09> Abooda:  its that bad, i was able to salvage the data off of it, but i do not care for it anymore
[18:11] <auronandace> Dwade09: a livecd should work, i usually use partedmagic
[18:12] <Dwade09> auronandace:  can i just do it inside the linux os i am running on the same hard drive?
[18:12] <Abooda> Dwade09: well GParted as auronandace suggested is the standard for re-formatting partitions
[18:13] <auronandace> Dwade09: you can delete the windows partition yes, but you won't be able to resize your linux partition i you are using it
[18:13] <auronandace> if
[18:13] <Dwade09> that is fine for now,
[18:13] <Dwade09> auronandace:  i am going to screen cap a pic for you to see my gparted
[18:14] <meskarune> arginfarb: you can use twinview / xinerama for extra settings for a second monitor
[18:14] <auronandace> Dwade09: ok
[18:15] <Dwade09> auronandace: http://imagebin.org/198728 do i just delete the two ntfs and the extended?
[18:15] <arginfarb> meskarune, k thanks
[18:15] <arginfarb> I'll check those out as well
[18:16] <auronandace> Dwade09: just delete the ntfs, you can't delete the extended (thats where linux is)
[18:16] <Dwade09> auronandace:  what about grub? would it just auto load into linux? or would that mess up grub?
[18:16] <ichbinder__> nobody any help on a tool that can tell me what object in my PDF needs how much space?
[18:16] <Dwade09> auronandace:  what about the first ntfs that is system reserved? /boot.
[18:17] <bobo37773> Anyone use xfce panel outside of xfce?
[18:17] <auronandace> Dwade09: just run sudo grub-update after (or update-grub, i can never remember which way around it is)
[18:18] <mysticdarkhack> I installed a new kernel, now when at the login screen, I push ctrl+alt+f2 to access terminal console, but lead me to black screen with nothing displaying. So is there a way to access terminal console from login screen after a new kernel? Thanks!
[18:18] <zykotick9> Dwade09: auronandace it's update-grub
[18:18] <auronandace> Dwade09: that first tiny ntfs partition looks like a restore partition, up to you if you want to keep it
[18:18] <Dwade09> auronandace:  ext2? or?
[18:18] <mysticdarkhack> please help
[18:19] <auronandace> Dwade09: ext2? what about it? i thought you just want to delete the partition, not reformat it
[18:19] <Dwade09> i want to use it as storage
[18:19] <Abooda> mysticdarkhack: what happens with alt + F2?
[18:19] <zykotick9> mysticdarkhack: do you have a vga= line for your kernel?  Might want to remove it, if you do, and retest.
[18:20] <Dwade09> auronandace:  i want to use it as storage for now till i extend my main os to it
[18:21] <auronandace> Dwade09: up to you what you want to use, as long as you know what OS needs to read it
[18:21] <Dwade09> so ext2 for linux? since all i have is ubuntu?
[18:21] <auronandace> Dwade09: that will work yes
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mysticdarkhack: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[18:23] <meskarune> Dwade09: you should use ext3 or ext4 if you want journaling. (prevents file corruption)
[18:23] <jiltdil> I have a rar file having video but  when i extracted it  has .exe file . How to play video
[18:23] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i will have to wait till it is done then to turn it into that.
[18:23] <bobo37773> jiltdil: Bad file. exe files are windows executables not videos
[18:23] <Abooda> jiltdil: are you sure a .exe file is meant to be a video?
[18:24] <bobo37773> jiltdil: Probably a virus or something
[18:24] <Abooda> jiltdil: if it's not a virus, it's at least a wrong extension. Where did you get it?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what does the file command say it is?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: where is the video from/
[18:24] <auronandace> jiltdil: sounds like you unwittingly downloaded a torrent
[18:25] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:25] <mysticdarkhack> ActionParsnip I install the latest amd hs drivers from amd
[18:25] <bobo37773> jiltdil: See if you can extract the exe and look inside
[18:25] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  it is from torent and are tools video  of total 2 gb
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> mysticdarkhack: you could try removing them then reboot then reinstall the video driver
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what does file say it is?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: you may need cabextract to extract it
[18:26] <mysticdarkhack> ActionParsnip will give that a try thanks
[18:26] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:27] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  ok i am trying actually it is tool video for CEH v7
[18:27] <recon_lap> this channel should be called ActionParsnip's ubuntu support channel :)
[18:27] <vandal-> hey, i am using curently lubuntu on old pc (Pentium IV 1,7GHz, 512 MB RAM). i like lubuntu but it sometimes crashes and i would like to try some other distributions. what would you recommend for such weak pc? i've heard something about puppy, pappermint, damn small linux and some other distributions but i am not sure which choice would be best and whats the difference between them. Can you help me choose one?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: means nothing to me
[18:27] <mysticdarkhack> bbl
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: thats not weak, thats a lot more than most of my systems
[18:27] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:28] <dlentz> vandal-, i hear good things about crunchbang
[18:28] <bananstol> i know puppy linux has a ubuntu version, so it would be somewhat familiar with commands etc
[18:28] <vandal-> ActionParsnip, and which distribution would you recommend for it ? :)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: if you want lightweight then try Slitaz, puppy, tinycore
[18:28] <bananstol> an
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: it will run Xubuntu well
[18:28] <Dwade09> meskarune:  there is a lost and found folder in the file system it says i do not have permissiont o access it?
[18:29] <vandal-> thanks dlentz bananstol and ActionParsnip. i'll google something about those mentioned by you :)
[18:29] <xplorer00> i run on pentium III with 256 ram a debian6 with dwm. it works very well
[18:29] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i am trying to copy stuff over to it, says There was an error copying the file into /media/ce6c5eef-8d6f-4106-a150-24a5c01f6f52.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: could install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox and lightdm   you'll get a light OS
[18:31] <meskarune> Dwade09: you need to give your user permission to use the file system. or you can mount the file system in your user's home in fstab
[18:31] <bobo37773> ActionParsnip: Is lightdm really stable?
[18:31] <Dwade09> meskarune:  new to linux, can you tell me how?
[18:31] <meskarune> ActionParsnip: I don't think ubuntu minimal is all that light... something like bsd or debian would be much lighter
[18:32] <Dwade09> auronandace:  that bar on my left side of the screen anyway i can move it to the bottom of the screen?
[18:32] <zykotick9> meskarune: ubuntu-mini is debian net install (with ubuntu repos)
[18:33] <meskarune> Dwade09: if you want the file system to mount at boot in your user's home, I would suggest adding the new file system you made to fstab
[18:34] <meskarune> Dwade09: so to open fstab you can do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[18:34] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i got that up
[18:35] <jogalou> hello im french you speack french please
[18:35] <meskarune> Dwade09: what is the name of your new disk adn what type of file system is it? (/dev/sda?)
[18:35] <dlentz> meskarune, use "gksu gedit", not sudo gedit
[18:35] <meskarune> dlentz: they both work the same
[18:36] <Dwade09> meskarune:  its /dev/sda1 ext3
[18:36] <alex123123> hello
[18:36] <Pici> !gksudo | meskarune
[18:36] <alex123123> i have a big problem
[18:36] <alex123123> i just installed ubuntu 11.10
[18:36] <bobo37773> jogalou: Did you try #ubuntu-fr  ?
[18:37] <alex123123> and when try to go in desktop i get black screen
[18:37] <alex123123> please help meeee
[18:37] <meskarune> Dwade09: so add the line : /dev/sda1 /home/username ext3 defaults 1 1
[18:37] <meskarune> that will mount your new disk to your home partition when you reboot
[18:37] <Dwade09> do i add the : as well?
[18:37] <dlentz> alex123123, what video card do you have?
[18:38] <alex123123> amd radeon 6555D
[18:38] <jogalou> Hello I ais instaler xubuntu jet has to leave a key usb but to forget to partitioner my hard disk and I cannot any more demarer under vista
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> dlentz: beat me to it :)
[18:38] <meskarune> Dwade09: no, just add the line. it should look similar to other lines in your fstab. :)
[18:38] <linxeh> Pici: would running sudo -i work just as well as gksudo? (just read that link)
[18:38] <Dwade09> meskarune:  no uuid? and i added it at the very bottom of fstab
[18:39] <alex123123> ????
[18:39] <ubukou> hello folks
[18:39] <Pici> linxeh: I'm not sure.
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> alex123123: what video card do you use?
[18:39] <asdfsdf> how can i disable hibernat/ freeze of installation when i install ubuntu from live usb ?wtf
[18:39] <alex123123> amd radeon 6550D
[18:39] <Dwade09> meskarune:  http://imagebin.org/198732
[18:39] <meskarune> Dwade09: you can use uuid or /dev/sda1 to mount a disk. if you like, you can look up the uuid of your disk and use that
[18:40] <ubukou> is there a way to start an applicartion to tray on startup? im trying to do that with synergy...
[18:40] <dlentz> alex123123, iirc, llano requires proprietary driver right now
[18:40] <linxeh> Pici: my desktop here is so old it doesnt have gksudo (Centos 5) heh
[18:40] <meskarune> Dwade09: change "username" to your own username. :P
[18:40] <alex123123> ok i what i have to do to get into work?
[18:40] <bobo37773> ubukou: Can't you just add it to your startup applications?
[18:40] <alex123123> pls tell me
[18:40] <Dwade09> gotcha meskarune  done and done, reboot?
[18:41] <ubukou> bobo37773, i did that.. but im trying to make it hide in the tray for when i need it.. no real usability problem, just trying to neat things pu.
[18:41] <Dwade09> wait i didn't update grub
[18:41] <ubukou> bobo37773, up**
[18:41] <alex123123> disconnected...
[18:41] <dlentz> alex123123, do you know how to boot into recovery/text mode
[18:42] <Dwade09> ok meskarune  rebooting
[18:42] <alex123123> no
[18:42] <dlentz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[18:42] <meskarune> Dwade09: come back if you get an error. :)
[18:43] <bobo37773> ubukou: Not sure how to hide panel items sorry.
[18:43] <dlentz> once you're in recovey mode, you can install the ati driver with: sudo apt-get install fgrlx
[18:43] <alex123123> how i get in recovery mode?
[18:43] <ubukou> bobo37773, i found some thing at -h.. --no-daemon should do it right ?
[18:43] <alex123123> im on laptop now
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | alex123123
[18:44] <alex123123> i have done that
[18:44] <alex123123> before installation
[18:44] <ubukou> bobo37773, i shutdown the server and i cant test ! Damn. :P
[18:44] <Dwade09> meskarune:  uh, problem
[18:44] <Dwade09> meskarune:  its not mounted and not showing
[18:44] <asdfsdf> i have to touch the touchpad so that the ubuntu setup doest stop -.-
[18:44] <bobo37773> ubukou: To hide a panel icon? No I doubt it. I do not see why starting without a daemon would hide an icon.
[18:45] <meskarune> Dwade09: how big is your /home/username?
[18:45] <Dwade09> meskarune:  its 381.01GB
[18:45] <meskarune> Dwade09: the disk will show up as your /home and not as a mounted disk on the side
[18:45] <ubukou> bobo37773, your right.. i would run it in the back..
[18:46] <alex123123> i can't do anything!!!!!
[18:46] <freeroute> dlentz: Quickly press the Escape key, which will bring up a boot menu. (If you see the Ubuntu logo, you've
[18:46] <ubukou> bobo37773, daemon is the gui ?
[18:46] <JRWR> what is the best method to use for transfering a large file over a slow unstable link
[18:46] <Dwade09> meskarune:  my home folder is 69.6GB
[18:46] <freeroute> It's not finished. I really dislike sentences which are un
[18:46] <dlentz> freeroute, grub2 was changed to holding 'Shift', not pressig 'Esc'
[18:46] <michaelgreen> does anybody know how i can upgrde from xubutu to ubuntu
[18:47] <alex123123> guys now i get error out of disc!  WTF
[18:47] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: install ubuntu-destkop would be one option
[18:47] <alex123123> HELP ME
[18:47] <meskarune> dwarder: the disk is mounted in your home folder. that is why your home is now 300 gb space. you should have  new mount point in home where you can save files. :)
[18:47] <michaelgreen> how do i do that
[18:47] <meskarune> ^ Dwade09
[18:47] <meskarune> sorry dwarder
[18:48] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: U.S.C or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[18:48] <meskarune> Dwade09: can you do ls -a in your terminal?
[18:48] <alex123123> heeelp
[18:48] <ubukou> alex123123, are you out of disk ?
[18:48] <alex123123> yes
[18:48] <randomuser> hi, i have an ubuntu client that appears to be ignoring the dhcp lease time, and is requesting a new IP at very short and inconsistent intervals. Any ideas why?
[18:48] <alex123123> i get that error
[18:48] <michaelgreen> so i put that in the terminal
[18:48] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i just found it via computer/home i see doug and Doug.
[18:48] <alex123123> sometimes
[18:48] <ejv> delete some files
[18:48] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: yes, or use U.S.C (ubuntu software center)
[18:48] <meskarune> Dwade09: awesome. can you save files to it as a regular user?
[18:49] <Dwade09> meskarune:  Error opening file '/home/Doug/Screenshot at 2012-02-13 12:14:10.png': Permission denied
[18:49] <ubukou> alex123123, so whats the problem ?
[18:49] <DynamicFail> I have a device that I can play with DirectShow in VLC on windows but I can't seem to open it in vlc in ubuntu?
[18:49] <DynamicFail> I was told that ubuntu should have the drivers
[18:49] <alex123123> h othonh mou ginetai maurh
[18:49] <meskarune> Dwade09: is doug your user?
[18:49] <ubukou> alex123123, it wont start?
[18:49] <alex123123> nai
[18:49] <jazzz> hello
[18:50] <Dwade09> meskarune:  yes doug is my user i thought it was Doug it shows cap D at the top by the time
[18:50] <jazzz> a few problems with virtual box here
[18:50] <alex123123> greek?
[18:50] <jazzz> how can i change the resolution with a mac emulated on ubuntu?
[18:50] <dlentz> !ask | jazzz
[18:50] <meskarune> Dwade09: make sure that your username in fstab matches your username on your computer.
[18:51] <meskarune> Dwade09: linux is case sensitive so all letters need to match
[18:51] <Dwade09> meskarune:  just did brb wil reboot
[18:51] <meskarune> Dwade09: ok. :)
[18:51] <dlentz> jazzz, so you're running os x inside vbox?
[18:51] <jazzz> dlentz yes
[18:52] <ejv> jazzz: why don't you ask in #vbox not here, heh
[18:52] <alex123123> ????????????
[18:52] <jazzz> but only 1 resolution in osx
[18:52] <ejv> !patience | alex123123
[18:52] <jazzz> 1024X748
[18:52] <jazzz> so no full screen
[18:52] <jazzz> how can i changfe that?
[18:52] <ejv> !enter | jazzz
[18:52] <zykotick9> jazzz: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu, try #vbox
[18:52] <alex123123> what i do now?
[18:53] <bobo37773> ubukou: No a daemon is something that runs in the backround. You do not see it.
[18:53] <alex123123> should i reinstall?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> The virtualbox manual is worth reading also.
[18:53] <jazzz> ok
[18:53] <michaelgreen> it says E: couldnt find package ubuntu desktop
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> uh meskarune
[18:53] <ubukou> bobo37773, so the no deamon option is the gui ?
[18:53] <dlentz> ubuntu-desktop (with a hyphen)
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> i have an issue meskarune  its me Dwade09
[18:53] <Dr_willis> michaelgreen:  its ubuntu-desktop
[18:53] <jazzz> thank you guys, talk to you soon
[18:53] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: hey
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it shows Doug on log in and i enter my passcode it says wrong passcode
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> alex123123: do it on the installed OS too
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  i had to log in as guest
[18:54] <ubukou> bobo37773, testing now the options.. you re using synergy?
[18:54] <michaelgreen> thats what i typed in
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it happened after i changed the upper case in the fstab to a lower case
[18:54] <jesus_> I have a problem with the jdownloader, i can't star it http://pastebin.com/dEGrsU0G
[18:54] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: are you sure your used the right password? no caps lock?
[18:54] <alex123123> do what?
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> yes meskarune
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> i entered it four times,
[18:55] <guest-mmRKD8> brb meskarune  i will try again
[18:55] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: adding a line to fstab shouldn't change your login infomration at all. if the directory doesn't exist it just won't mount...
[18:55] <alex123123> anyone!!!!!
[18:55] <rafal_> jest tu ktoś władający językiem polskim?:)
[18:55] <eyy1sup> ever since I upgraded to 11.10 yesterday, my cron service is unable to start manually or automatically, can someone help me troubleshoot this please?
[18:55] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it wont let me log in
[18:56] <OerHeks> !pl | rafal_
[18:56] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: can you put "fdisk -l" into a terminal and paste it in paste bin? also "cat /etc/fstab"
[18:56] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  i entered the passcode 5 times right, then hit enter
[18:56] <ubukou> alex123123, delete things man... i guess linux needs some space to start... it makes sense..
[18:56] <michaelgreen> i need help
[18:56] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: make sure your caps lock is off
[18:56] <ejv> don't we all
[18:56] <alex123123> what?\
[18:57] <bobo37773> ubukou: No a daemon is a backround process. Think of it as a conditional while loop.
[18:57] <OerHeks> !anyone | alex123123
[18:57] <Dr_willis> alex123123:  you may want to rephrase/restate and clarify your problem.
[18:57] <alex123123> ok
[18:58] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it is off, and here is fstab http://pastebin.com/2wGjivCR and here is cat http://pastebin.com/wah5p8Hk
[18:58] <wjimn> anyone notice that 11.10 has the login background image /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png is actually a jpeg not a PNG
[18:58] <OerHeks> wjimn, warty  ?? that is so old.
[18:58] <jrib> wjimn: probably related to the fact that it's also named "warty" :)
[18:58] <michaelgreen> i want to upgrade from xubuntu to windows help me
[18:59] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: sounds like a downgrade to me ;)
[18:59] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: you said you changed something to lowercase, what was it?
[18:59] <OerHeks> michaelgreen, upgrade from opensource Linux to closed source windows, good luck
[18:59] <jesus_> michaelgreen, you can't upgrade from xubuntu to windows
[18:59] <dlentz> michaelgreen, did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[18:59] <john_doe_jr> I have several .deb files, in a folder, and would like to install all of them...how would I do that with dpkg?
[18:59] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: /home/doug is your user's home directory?
[18:59] <guest-mmRKD8> auronandace:  i changed Doug under user name in fstab to doug
[19:00] <MrL0ngbowman> OerHeks, +1
[19:00] <jailtonpierre> Good afternoon all.
[19:00] <michaelgreen> no what is that
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  that is what it showed
[19:00] <alex123123> ??
[19:00] <jrib> john_doe_jr: sudo dpkg -i *.deb   (ensure these are meant for your system and ubuntu version)
[19:00] <swmiller6> I need help with a sound issue. The cards I have installed are not showing up. here is some information that anyone willing to help may find useful... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bb9d89b4986a26902b4330ebbf8dcca7af74f690
[19:00] <bobo37773> ubukou: There has to be some way to hide tray icons in your panel.
[19:00] <alex123123> none help me...
[19:00] <oCean> !gr | alex123123
[19:00] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: thats why then, it is case sensitive, it should be Doug then
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  but at the top by the clock it showed a big D
[19:00] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: you could try "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" but dpkg dosen't consider order, so that might fail.
[19:00] <wjimn> OerHeks, jrib, indeed, but if you check /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf, you'll see the background is the warty one
[19:00] <jailtonpierre> who can help me with a back up, of apps?
[19:00] <jrib> zykotick9: I believe dpkg does "the right thing"
[19:00] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: thanks!
[19:00] <zykotick9> jrib: i think you need gdebi for that
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> how can i change this as guest?
[19:01] <dlentz> michaelgreen, i thought you were trying to install unity/ubuntu on xubunt?
[19:01] <bigtom21485> how do i encode mp3's in banshee in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:01] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: your fstab looks fine. there is no reason for your password to be different. maybe try logging in with "Doug" and "doug" see which one works
[19:01] <jrib> wjimn: I'm just saying that they are keeping the same old filename, thus why a jpg is named as a png
[19:01] <dlentz> when did windows enter the equation?
[19:01] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  brb
[19:01] <michaelgreen> i am i need help im only 15
[19:01] <dlentz> bigtom21485, you need gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package
[19:01] <meskarune> michaelgreen: what is your problme?
[19:01] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats what im guessing.. thing is.. when running withoout a gui , i have to set the server address and port cause it doesnt to that automatically from terminal...
[19:01] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  neither one worked
[19:01] <grendal-prime> michaelgreen, i get all my help from 15 year olds.
[19:01] <oCean> michaelgreen: this is not a windows support channel
[19:01] <qopi> running "sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/sda1/"via live usb fixed my problem :-D without any need to chroot or anything :-D
[19:01] <bigtom21485> dlentz: can i get it from the command prompt? :-)
[19:02] <jailtonpierre> nobody?
[19:02] <michaelgreen> lol well thats why i came here
[19:02] <graft> hi, what's the best way to install npm on lucid (10.04)?
[19:02] <bobo37773> ubukou: Maybe you have to enter specific options in a config file somewhere.
[19:02] <ubukou> bobo37773, i ll figuere it out, after 5 years of linux patience is something i got in return :)
[19:02] <oCean> michaelgreen: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:02] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats what it says...
[19:02] <jesus_> to upgrade to windows type on a terminal:  "sudo make my computer a ...."
[19:02] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  under user accounts it shows Doug and auto login
[19:02] <alex123123> ???
[19:02] <bobo37773> ubukou: Hahaha. Yep I agree
[19:02] <pangolin> graft: sudo apt-get install npm
[19:03] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: can you log into your system as root? (this isn't recomended, but you can change/check on your password from root)
[19:03] <oCean> jesus_: please be helpful
[19:03] <graft> pangolin: it's not in the repository
[19:03] <ubukou> bobo37773, besides an awsome OS...ofc.
[19:03] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  how do i do that?
[19:03] <ubukou> bobo37773,  i ll go to #xfce and ask there
[19:03] <qopi> meskarune: llutz zykotick9 running "sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/sda1/"via live usb fixed my problemwithout any need to chroot or anything
[19:03] <jesus_> pangolin seach that package with y ppa manager
[19:03] <bobo37773> ubukou: Oh you use xfce?
[19:03] <alex123123> ??
[19:03] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: you should be able to type in root as your username, then put in your root password
[19:04] <oCean> alex123123: please stop that, ask a real question
[19:04] <alex123123> heeeelpll
[19:04] <bobo37773> ubukou: Is it a systray icon?
[19:04] <meskarune> qopi: awesome. I'm glad you got your system fixed
[19:04] <ubukou> bobo37773, it is when you close it...
[19:04] <pangolin> graft: it appears you are correct
[19:04] <graft> pangolin: that's why i'm here :)
[19:04] <ubukou> bobo37773, no setting to make it start there tho
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> meskarune: root login is not advised, nor possible ni the default OS
[19:04] <zykotick9> !noroot | guest-mmRKD8 meskarune
[19:04] <michaelgreen> when i typed in  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <michaelgreen>  it said E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop
[19:05] <swmiller6> I need help with a sound issue. The cards I have installed are not showing up. here is some information that anyone willing to help may find useful... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bb9d89b4986a26902b4330ebbf8dcca7af74f690
[19:05] <ubukou> alex123123 | !patience
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> michaelgreen: run:  sudo apt-get update     first
[19:05] <jesus_> michaelgreen that's cause you are using xubuntu
[19:05] <meskarune> ActionParsnip: this guy's password isn't working with regular user. why does ubuntu block root login???
[19:05] <ubukou> alex123123|!patience
[19:05] <bobo37773> ubukou: Easy. Right click on xfce panel and go to panel preferences
[19:05] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it wont let me.
[19:05] <michaelgreen> what do i do
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> meskarune: security, get him/her to boot to root recovery mode and you can reset password safetly there
[19:05] <zykotick9> guest-mmRKD8: it's not suppose to (your getting bad advice)
[19:06] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  all i did was change the cap d to a lower d in fstab
[19:06] <ubukou> bobo37773, im there..
[19:06] <bobo37773> ubukou: After that go to items -> notification area.
[19:06] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: why did you do that?
[19:06] <jesus_> michaelgreen what do you want to d exactly?
[19:06] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: your fstab looks fine to me. it can't change your user's password. what is the error you are getting when you try to log in?
[19:06] <pangolin> swmiller6: for some reason your question is setting of the anti spam protection in the bot. not sure what is causing it but try removing the ... in your post
[19:06] <michaelgreen> to upgrade from xubuntu
[19:06] <guest-mmRKD8> auronandace:  it was for my ntfs partition to read/mount
[19:06] <bobo37773> ubukou: There should be a way to hide stuff you do not want to see from there. Then there will be an arrow on your panel to expand and see it.
[19:06] <alex123123> someone help me with my question
[19:07] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  there is no error it goes to black screen shows mouse then goes back to log on screen
[19:07] <oCean> !details | alex123123
[19:07] <jesus_> to upgrade xubuntu typ on a terminal:
[19:07] <swmiller6>  /join #ubuntu-ops
[19:07] <michaelgreen> ale123123: chill
[19:07] <alex123123> its a bot...
[19:07] <mbeierl> michaelgreen, perhaps it would help if you defined a little more clearly.  When you say to want "Windows", are you referring to a GUI, or the OS known as Microsoft Windows?
[19:07] <zykotick9> guest-mmRKD8: that's not a password issue BTW
[19:07] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: sorry, you lost me, i thought you said you changed /mnt/Doug to /mnt/doug
[19:07] <jesus_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:07] <oCean> alex123123: for help in Greek:  /join #ubuntu-gr
[19:07] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: do you have auto login turned on? soemtimes that can cause the problem you are experiancing
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> yes meskarune  it is turned on
[19:08] <bobo37773> swmiller6: fail haha
[19:08] <swmiller6> indeed
[19:08] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: ok, you need to have that turned off. try to log into your computer from safe mode
[19:08] <bobo37773> hehe
[19:08] <JanL> what am I doing here
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> brb meskarune
[19:08] <ubukou> bobo37773, im there, there is no way to do what i want from there.. nice thinking tho ... what i wanna do is to make the application start there instead of seeing it and closing it...
[19:08] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: what deskop manager are you using? gnome?
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> yes
[19:08] <ubukou> bobo37773, maybe an && command?
[19:09] <guest-mmRKD8> gnome
[19:09] <jesus_> I can't run jdownloader, it seems is cause to a java version but i don't know http://pastebin.com/dEGrsU0G
[19:09] <alex123123> WTF help me
[19:09] <bobo37773> ubukou: I do not understand your question
[19:09] <jrib> alex123123: ask your question and wait patiently, "WTF help me" isn't productive
[19:09] <oCean> alex123123: control your language here, please
[19:09] <jesus_> but alex123123 ask
[19:09] <mbeierl> alex123123, don't swear, and don't demans that volunteers help you.
[19:09] <bigtom21485> so, we're all in here bc apple and windows both suck...so...has anyone tried google music?  since ubuntu one doesn't have a portable music device yet...
[19:09] <bobo37773> alex123123: What is the problem? Black screen no gui right?
[19:09] <mbeierl> c/demans/demand/
[19:09] <alex123123> yes
[19:10] <bobo37773> alex123123: Is this a fresh install or something that just started happening?
[19:10] <ubukou> bobo37773, like synergys && "close window command"?
[19:10] <alex123123> fresh install
[19:10] <alex123123> i selected nomodeset before install
[19:10] <zacktu> update manager did another update of the kernel today -- /lib/modules shows 3.0.0.12-generic, also 13, 14, 15, and 16 -- uname says my kernel is 3.0.0.12, and grub only offers the opportunity to boot to 3.0.0.12 -- why no updates?
[19:10] <Enalicho> Anyone know Martin Pitt's alias?
[19:10] <bobo37773> alex123123: Does the failsafe kernel work in grub?
[19:11] <jrib> Enalicho: check his launchpad page?
[19:11] <alex123123> i don't know
[19:11] <graft> jesus_: thanks for that, found a good ppa i think
[19:11] <alex123123> it doesn't show me any other kernels
[19:11] <mbeierl> jesus_, regarding that pastebin above: that (from what I've seen) is an exception that is thrown when a Java app tries to create a GUI element, but no display is available
[19:11] <bobo37773> alex123123: Not even a recovery option?
[19:11] <zykotick9> zacktu: you do need to reboot in order to use a new kernel BTW
[19:11] <Enalicho> jrib: yeah, done, ty
[19:11] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i am able to get into root but its command prompted
[19:11] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i dont know what to enter,
[19:11] <jesus_> ok good, ppa manager is really usefull ;D
[19:12] <alex123123> could ubuntu rescue remix help me?
[19:12] <bobo37773> ubukou: There has got to be a way to hide it if it is a systray icon
[19:12] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: ok, you are in the command line?
[19:12] <zacktu> zykotick9: yes, i've rebooted, but there's the kernel has never been updated
[19:12] <oCean> zacktu: run  apt-cache policy linux-image-generic to see if newer version is available. To upgrade run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:12] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i was i had to get back into guest,
[19:12] <ubukou> bobo37773, hollyy.... gedit is 10mb?!?! hahahahah ... never had to install it in ubuntu...
[19:12] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: can you type "startx"
[19:12] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats a large text editor..
[19:12] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  not while as on as guest,
[19:12] <jesus_> mm so it can be solved mbeierl
[19:13] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  so i type startx ?
[19:13] <jesus_> ?
[19:13] <michaelgreen> screenshot sharing website please
[19:13] <guest-EEhSNP> then what meskarune ?
[19:13] <zykotick9> !paste > michaelgreen
[19:13] <bobo37773> ubukou: Yeah. I got to have it though. It is my gui editor of choice
[19:13] <mbeierl> jesus_, I think so.  how is jdownloader meant to be used, and are you on a headless box / ssh'd in / or ...?
[19:13] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: well, when you are in the command line, type startx, and it will throw you to a graphica interface. then you type "sudo gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf" and change the line AutomaticLoginEnable to "false"
[19:14] <zykotick9> !gksu | meskarune guest-EEhSNP
[19:14] <meskarune> you don't gksu with gedit in a simple x session
[19:14] <bobo37773> alex123123: If it is not a graphics card issue I would not be surprised if it was lightdm fault
[19:14] <auronandace> meskarune: if it is a gui app, you gksu
[19:15] <guest-EEhSNP> lol meskarune , i am just thinking of resintalling ubuntu it would be easier, and i got all my data off the windows 7 side i needed backed up,
[19:15] <jesus_> mbeierl, i use Ubuntu 11.10 and i don't understand what do you reffer to "be used"
[19:15] <bobo37773> meskarune: Why not?
[19:15] <guest-EEhSNP> it would let me do a full hdd install
[19:16] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: well, if you do reinstall, keep auto-login turned off. :P
[19:16] <guest-EEhSNP> will do meskarune  i will se eyou in 30 lol.
[19:16] <auronandace> guest-EEhSNP: yes, autologin is always a bad idea
[19:16] <mbeierl> jesus_, Is JDownloader meant to be used as a command line / terminal application, or is it a GUI-based application?
[19:16] <duelle> Hi, I accidentally formatted a partition and would like to restore the data. I rescued the partition with ddrescue. TestDisk seems to fail :( Can anyone gibe me a hint how to continue now?
[19:16] <michaelgreen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840790/ help
[19:17] <swmiller6> irontree42
[19:17] <bobo37773> autologin a bad idea? ouch
[19:17] <alex123123> and now what i do?
[19:17] <auronandace> michaelgreen: what was that about?
[19:17] <jesus_> ah a GUI-based application, but i  type on a terminal "jdownloader" cause it can't be opened
[19:17] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: the image pastebin is NOT paste.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <zykotick9> !paste > michaelgreen
[19:18] <bobo37773> alex123123: What do you do? Where are you? Were you able to boot the recovery option or at least get a shell?
[19:18] <auronandace> !screenshot | michaelgreen
[19:18] <zacktu> I'm using 11.10 -- there was a kernel update today by update manager -- now /lib/modules shows kernels 3.0.0.12-generic thru 3.0.0.16-generic --- uname -r shows that my kernel is 3.0.0.12, and grub shows only 3.0.0.12 -- why doesn't my kernel update?
[19:18] <alex123123> no
[19:18] <alex123123> just nothing
[19:18] <oCean> zacktu: run  apt-cache policy linux-image-generic to see if newer version is available. To upgrade run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:19] <bobo37773> zacktu: Did you update grub?
[19:19] <meskarune> I don't see what the big deal is with sudo vs. gksu. using sudo uses the user's home settings. gksu uses root settings, so I think it depends on what you are doing.
[19:19] <oCean> !gksu | meskarune
[19:19] <snow_> hi
[19:19] <snow_> :)
[19:19] <zykotick9> meskarune: using sudo with gui apps can break the user account - don't suggest it.  see "/msg ubottu wfm"
[19:19] <snow_> wonder to buy a thinkpad, which one would be best for ubuntu ;) ?
[19:19] <OerHeks> zaktu did you reboot after the kernel-update ?
[19:19] <bobo37773> I use sudo all the time for gui apps unless I need to put them in a script then I use gksu for the pop up
[19:20] <michaelgreen> it says image type not allowed
[19:20] <mbeierl> jesus_, and how did you create the terminal?  Is this remote through ssh?  What is the output of "echo $DISPLAY" from a terminal?
[19:20] <auronandace> snow_: thinkpads are awesome, i have t40, t60, t61 and t510: all work great (avoid hybrid graphics or optimus)
[19:20] <bobo37773> snow_: Hard to say. Why a thinkpad? Are you buying ot for ubuntu only?
[19:21] <meskarune> zykotick9: I have a sudo setting that clears out root files made in my home by sudo.... so its not an issue for me
[19:21] <kaytortuga>  I have a JPG file (a scanned document) that I need to convert to a .doc file. (I can convert it to a pdf but still cannot edit the text.) Installed ocropus http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ since it looked like it would do the OCR job. Thing is, I do not see any documentation on how to actually use it. Anyone know any links? or am I trying to use the wrong program altogether?
[19:21] <snow_> auronandace, thinking about T520, have you used them?
[19:21] <meskarune> but in most cases sudo doesn't make root owned files in /home
[19:21] <bobo37773> alex123123: If you hit ctrl+alt+f5 does it give you a shell?
[19:21] <meskarune> why doesn't ubuntu just come installed with sane default sudo settings like all the other linux distro's?
[19:22] <alex123123> wait
[19:22] <auronandace> snow_: i haven't used t520, doesn't that use optimus? if so don't get it (linux support for optimus is awful)
[19:22] <bobo37773> meskarune: Sane defaults? Like what?
[19:22] <user1_> will my laptop ever hibernate or sleep?
[19:22] <bobo37773> nope never
[19:22] <meskarune> bobo37773: you can use visudo to change your sudo settings
[19:22] <user1_> have they given on hibernate problem?
[19:23] <randomuser> #ubuntu prepare for irony
[19:23] <meskarune> then you can use sudo with GUI programs and not have any issues
[19:23] <michaelgreen> how do i share a screnshot
[19:23] <auronandace> user1_: if you have enough swap and your model is supported then yes
[19:23] <bobo37773> Yeah, I know. I meant what sane defaults do other distros have?
[19:23] <alex123123> no i dont get anything
[19:23] <auronandace> !screenshot | michaelgreen
[19:23] <user1_> auronandace: i have a GB of swap. and my model is asus 1215B netbook.
[19:24] <meskarune> bobo37773: other distro's don't have sudo stick root owned files in /home
[19:24] <auronandace> user1_: and how much ram
[19:24] <zykotick9> user1_: do you have more then a GB of physical memory?
[19:24] <user1_> auronandace: 2 GB Ram
[19:24] <snow_> auronandace, you are talkinga bout nvidia
[19:24] <zykotick9> user1_: swap partition must be larger then physical memory for hibernate to work
[19:24] <randomuser> HELP i have a weird probelm with my ubuntu!
[19:24] <zacktu> oCean: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic says that 3.0.0.16.19 is installed -- i've never had to do any grub update -- update manager updates, and i reboot, and grub shows a new kernel -- am i supposed to do something more?
[19:24] <auronandace> user1_: your swap needs to be at least as big as your ram
[19:25] <snow_> auronandace, how about T420 ?
[19:25] <user1_> auronandace: you mean 3GB swap!
[19:25] <auronandace> snow_: yes, nvidia optimus is something you should avoid if you use linux
[19:25] <Pici> snow_: See http://www.thinkwiki.org
[19:25] <bobo37773> meskarune: Which ones does ubuntu put there?
[19:25] <auronandace> user1_: yes
[19:26] <user1_> auronandace: by parted!
[19:26] <bobo37773> alex123123: When grub show up you can press e to edit command line and append 3 to the end to get to a shell. That is how grub legacy works anyway
[19:26] <meskarune> bobo37773: in ubuntu they insist that people use gksu instead of sudo to run GUI programs, but you can just edit sudoers to have sudo's home be root
[19:26] <snow_> auronandace, Intel HD graphics 3000 is ok ?
[19:26] <oCean> zacktu: no, during install the required grub commands are executed. When rebooting, hold shift to bring up the grub menu. I'm wondering if the new entries show up. Wait, before rebooting do a  grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:27] <auronandace> user1_: yes, you can use gparted to resize your swap, make sure you swapoff first
[19:27] <Pici> meskarune: using gksudo instead of sudo is not limited to just Ubuntu.  Heck, if you want to use sudo isntead, be my guest, but you may end up with unwanted root-owned files in your user's home.
[19:27] <user1_> auronandace: ok let me try
[19:27] <meskarune> bobo37773: in your sudoers file you can have "env_reset" on
[19:27] <snow_> ok
[19:28] <meskarune> pici: I have my sudoers file set up so I don't have root owned files made in my home directory. its not hard to do.
[19:28] <auronandace> snow_: just make sure to avoid any dual/hybrid graphics and optimus and you should be fine (the newer the graphics card the less likely there is support (generally))
[19:28] <oCean> meskarune: and using gksu is hard?
[19:28] <Pici> meskarune: Can you show me what change you've made, I'm curious to see it.
[19:28] <bobo37773> meskarune: It is not controlled from /etc/sudoers in ubuntu? env_reset? Sounds needlessly complicated. I meant what files are created in the users home directory?
[19:28] <meskarune> oCean: I run fluxbox and xmonad. I don't have a ton of GUI applications in my install
[19:29] <Jimm_> hi, can anyone help me fix a misaligned partition?
[19:29] <meskarune> bobo37773: its not complicated. you type in "visudo" and make sure env_reset is on/uncommented
[19:30] <zykotick9> bobo37773: i'd just use gksudo if i where you
[19:30] <meskarune> there is no need to use gksu is your sudoers is sane
[19:30] <qw-Russian> help me please
[19:30] <bobo37773> zykotick9: I never use gksudo.
[19:30] <qw-Russian> i install Lazarus from Linux OS
[19:30] <meskarune> http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sudoers.man.html
[19:30] <bobo37773> zykotick9: Have never ran into a problem yet.
[19:30] <qw-Russian> but i am that there activation not all functions and possibilities
[19:31] <zykotick9> bobo37773: that's your choice, it's not a good one, but it's yours to make.
[19:31] <randomuser> meskarune, you could also recognize that GUI apps generally are not system admin apps and just not run them as root
[19:31] <OerHeks> !gksudo
[19:31] <Dean> Hey guys. Quick question: Can I use the standard Ubuntu 11.10 desktop CD to fully encrypt my drive or do I need the alternative cd?
[19:31] <bobo37773> Why not just use gksu instead? Isn't gksudo just a wrapper anyway?
[19:31] <michaelgreen> is there likeany way i can like let one of you guys control my computer from yours that would be alot easier
[19:32] <auronandace> meskarune: if you are offering help to someone and your sudoers is different to theirs, please tell them to use gksudo
[19:32] <meskarune> randomuser: I almost never run anything as root. so I still don't see the problem
[19:32] <zacktu> oCean: there are 5 menuentry lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg: 3.0.0.12-generic regular and recovery; two memtest entries; and two windows 7 entries (they are for /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2,)
[19:32] <randomuser> michaelgreen, the point is to teach you to fix your problem, not fix your problem
[19:32] <Jimm_> hi, im trying to install ubuntu but my drive is having issues partitioning, anyone know how to fix a misaligned partition?
[19:32] <TheTito> hi...who can give me a hand....i have ubuntu and i am doing a backup of a windows computer to my ubuntu with rsync, i am getting this errors: http://pastebin.com/m6srArua  can anybody help me?
[19:33] <swmiller6> soundcard issues anyone?
[19:33] <randomuser> meskarune, the problem is that you just had a lengthy dialogue about using sudo that did not include a WHIMPER of "do you really need root permission for that?"
[19:33] <auronandace> michaelgreen: what is the problem? would you like me to help?
[19:33] <michaelgreen> well i have an asus eee pc surf model with xubuntu i dont want xubuntu i want ubuntu
[19:34] <randomuser> michaelgreen, you were given the answer IMMEDIATELY after you asked the first time. scroll up
[19:34] <bobo37773> gksudo to edit sudoers? Why not visudo?
[19:34] <auronandace> michaelgreen: have you tried installing ubuntu?
[19:34] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: don't the surf's come with a maximum of 4GB drives?  that might not be large enough for full ubuntu.
[19:35] <auronandace> zykotick9: ah good point
[19:36] <michaelgreen> i have 10GB Eee storage and it had a 8GB SSD but i lost it
[19:37] <Jimm_> could anyone give me some advice on fixing a misaligned partition please?
[19:37] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: isn't "EEE storage" online?
[19:37] <meskarune> randomuser: you DO need root permission to edit sudoers. there was a person who thought their password was wrong/messed up. root is used to fix issues or config things. in any case I think ubuntu should come installed with a sudoers file that doesn't put root owned files in home
[19:37] <xubuntu5> hey
[19:37] <xubuntu5> does anyone know how i can get CGI working with apache2 server on ubuntu?
[19:37] <michaelgreen> no
[19:38] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, there's numerous tutorials and how-tos
[19:38] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, if you actually *search* you can find them
[19:38] <trever420> Jimm_ have you used Gparted?
[19:38] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | xubuntu5
[19:38] <trever420> that might be the easiest method
[19:38] <snow_> auronandace, how about Led backlit ANti-Glare display, will it be ok ?
[19:38] <meskarune> xubuntu5: are you tried to install already and got an error? or are you asking how to install ?
[19:38] <trever420> you can also do it from the CLI but to be honest using a live cd and gparted is easier
[19:38] <Jimm_> i tried that and something went wrong, then i tried through disk manager and it works but is misaligned
[19:38] <xubuntu5> i installed it via sudo apt-get i just don't know what to do next
[19:39] <auronandace> snow_: check the thinkwiki that someone posted earlier
[19:39] <trever420> Jimm_ ok what went wrong?
[19:39] <EvilResistance> meskarune, they have a config question
[19:39] <EvilResistance> meskarune, they dont know how to get Apache to work with cgi :P
[19:39] <Jimm_> i tried to make 3 partition, 2 worked fine and the last always failed but didnt give a reason
[19:39] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, you could always try in #ubuntu-server
[19:39] <mang0> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 11.10 system. I installed xfce a few weeks back, and then yesterday decided to remove gnome/unity completely, which I did by copying the command listed on the url given by !purexfce. However, I can no longer access my system. When I boot up, I go past BIOS, past Grub, and then I see the xfce loading/splash screen for a sec, and then i just have a blank...
[19:39] <mang0> ...screen. I'm wondering if by removing the gnome/unity stuff, I accidentally screwed up X11, or perhaps my graphics drivers? Wit a lot of fiddling, I can get into TTY; I had to choose "Old linux versions" in grub, and then recovery console for ubuntu with 2.x.x kernel, rather than my normal 3.x.x. What can I do? Please help, my computer is unusable.
[19:39] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, and dont randomly privmsg people... it annoys some of em
[19:39] <trever420> hmmm i'm gonna need more details than that Jimm_
[19:40] <EvilResistance> (including me)
[19:40] <xubuntu5> i am sorry sir
[19:40] <xubuntu5> just thought you may be able to help
[19:40] <trever420> like what went wrong.... in which way didnt it work? did it give you an error that I can look at
[19:40] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, then you didnt read what the bot sent you
[19:40] <EvilResistance> !privmsg > xubuntu5
[19:40] <michaelgreen> and i have a 8GB usb
[19:40] <trever420> is the 3rd partitions a boot partition?
[19:40] <Jimm_> okay i'll try get the message uo again
[19:41] <Jimm_> basically i just want one partition for ubuntu, 100gb and the rest for storage
[19:41] <trever420> ah i see
[19:41] <xubuntu5> so what do i edit my virtualhosts for cgi?
[19:41] <Jimm_> but it keeps saying its misaligned
[19:41] <user1_> auronandace: ok created 3.6 GB swap and swapon done. should i try sleeping now?
[19:41] <trever420> well you want to make sure your starting sectors are correct as well as the end sectors
[19:41] <trever420> do you have data on the drive currently?
[19:41] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, for the record, you should read the apache docs :P
[19:41] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/cgi.html
[19:41] <xubuntu5> i am!
[19:42] <xubuntu5> thanks
[19:42] <auronandace> user1_: it should work if 3.6 gb of swap is bigger than ram
[19:42] <xubuntu5> just can't figure it out lol
[19:42] <Jimm_> right, thats where im a nub, ive only used windows partitoins before
[19:42] <Jimm_> drive is 2.5tb and empty
[19:42] <Guest53385> wazzup
[19:42] <user1_> auronandace: should i restart and then try?
[19:42] <trever420> oh well thats easy
[19:42] <tacomaster> i was wondering i have a rtl8187 and it works decently but every so often it seems like the speed greatly degrades or i disconnect. i found a way to stop for the most part it disconnecting with the command "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M fixed" but it still slows down which leads me to my question i did a "iwconfig" and saw a part Invalid misc:272 and almost every time i load a web page it goes up. I read the man page on it but
[19:42] <trever420> just recreate it
[19:42] <trever420> jimm_ I'd boot from the gparted CD and use the GUO
[19:42] <auronandace> user1_: sounds good, yes
[19:42] <trever420> GUI*...
[19:43] <Jimm_> okay i'll give that a go
[19:43] <trever420> Jimm_, delete all partitions so it's just one unallocated partition
[19:43] <Jimm_> i tried it from the ubuntu live disk but messed something up
[19:43] <randomuser> meskarune, you should direct people to use visudo for editing sudoers, not gksudo gedit
[19:43] <xubuntu5> try using gparted
[19:43] <trever420> well since it's empty you can start over Jimm_ :-)
[19:44] <trever420> make sure the 200GB partition is flagged as boot tho since thats gonna be your boot partition I assume
[19:44] <trever420> if you right click on it in gparted i think it lets you select flags
[19:44] <Jimm_> am trying iy one last time from ubuntu live disk gparted
[19:44] <randomuser> trever420, a 200GB /boot? really?
[19:44] <Jimm_> then ill go for the other
[19:44] <trever420> randomuser, thats what he wants
[19:44] <zykotick9> trever420: just an FYI, but grub doesn't really care about the boot flag (ie. it's not actually required)
[19:45] <trever420> ah i guess thats true zykotick9... i'm using the windows bootloader
[19:45] <randomuser> Jimm_, do you know what /boot is for?
[19:45] <Jimm_> it doesnt read the right storage
[19:45] <meskarune> randomuser: I never told anyone to edit sudoers with gedit. :P
[19:45] <trever420> Jimm_ what do you mean?
[19:45] <Jimm_> say8ing its only 2.2tb. that normal?
[19:46] <trever420> eh nothing is perfect ;-)
[19:46] <trever420> 2.5TB after formatting will use some
[19:46] <trever420> there is overhead
[19:46] <trever420> i dunno the exact percentage to be hones
[19:46] <randomuser> meskarune, my point is that you shouldn't encourage people to blindly run things as root. I'm sorry that i jumped on you , i didnt see the actual problem you were addresing
[19:46] <trever420> honest*...
[19:46] <randomuser> Jimm_, WHY ARE YOU MAKING A HUGE /boot ?!?!
[19:46] <Jimm_> should i use primary or extended?
[19:46] <trever420> primary is fine
[19:47] <Jimm_> i like to store things on desktop
[19:47] <trever420> i guess if your only using Linux then dont worry about flagging it
[19:47] <randomuser> Jimm_, only kernels are in /boot
[19:47] <zykotick9> Jimm_: there is a BIOS limitation of 4 primary partitions, so if you want more then 4 paritions, use extended+logical
[19:47] <randomuser> the desktop is /home Jimm_
[19:47] <trever420> randomuser thats niot what he is doing
[19:47] <trever420> he's making a large partition of 200GB which is the partition he boots off of
[19:48] <trever420> i assume he is maybe keeping ubuntu on one partition and data on another?
[19:48] <randomuser> i see
[19:48] <randomuser> so you, trever420 , decided to call that partition /boot
[19:48] <trever420> no i didnt
[19:48] <trever420> i said he should flag it as boot
[19:48] <trever420> very different
[19:49] <trever420> but then i was kindly pointed out that since he is using GRUB he doesnt need to
[19:49] <trever420> since i use the windows bootloader i do have to flag the partition as boot
[19:49] <Jimm_> lol, thanks mate, no idea what i did before but its fine now
[19:49] <meskarune> randomuser: I don't tell people to blindly use root. I almost never use root after my initial system setup. but for issues like password problems or editing fstab you need super user access. people were upset about using sudo instead of gksu with GUI applications. but there is no reason for ubuntu to have that problem if the sudoers file is set up with env_reset
[19:49] <trever420> it's cool
[19:49] <trever420> :-)
[19:50] <Jimm_> could of sworn i did it that way before but heyho
[19:50] <trever420> Jimm: what format did you make the 200GB ?
[19:50] <trever420> ext3, ext4, ntfs, FAT?
[19:50] <Jimm_> 100gb is primary ext4
[19:50] <trever420> ah ok
[19:50] <meskarune> randomuser: I think its just an issue of other distro's doing things differently. I primarily use arch and bsd, but help in #ubuntu since its a gataway to *nix
[19:50] <Jimm_> the rst is one partition ext4
[19:50] <trever420> what about the second one?
[19:50] <trever420> oh
[19:50] <Jimm_> primary again
[19:51] <trever420> is there a reason why you needed two partitions?
[19:51] <Jimm_> basically im running xp
[19:51] <trever420> i assumed you wanted to keep data on another partition you could access in both Windows and Linux
[19:51] <Jimm_> xp being a mong cant read my new 2.5tb
[19:51] <trever420> windows wont read the ext4 th
[19:51] <trever420> it's not that it cant read it... it's that there is a limit on fat drives
[19:51] <Jimm_> so i need ubuntu to manage my storage
[19:52] <trever420> it cant format FAT more than 32GB i think
[19:52] <trever420> but NTFS should have been able to read it fine
[19:52] <oscar76> hi there, how do I start a ssh connection in 10.04?
[19:52] <EvilResistance> Jimm_, format the 2.5TB drive as NTFS and it can be used on Ubuntu and Windows
[19:52] <qw-Russian> Windows is not read File system ext4 ext3 and other ubuntu system
[19:52] <trever420> when you boot into XP now Jimm_ you are not going to see the second patition cuz it's EXT4
[19:52] <Jimm_> yeah but xp simply cant pick up a 2.5tb
[19:52] <trever420> it needs to be NTFS
[19:52] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, Windows cannot read ext4 partitions
[19:53] <trever420> my XP machine sees 2.5TB just fine :-\
[19:53] <meberhart> oscar - you can just type ssh [address] in the terminal
[19:53] <zykotick9> oscar76: "ssh HOSTNAME/OR_IP" or "ssh username@HOSTNAME/OR_IP"
[19:53] <kion> Oscar76 on the remote machine write in a terminal ssh     ip.ad.dr.ess
[19:53] <qw-Russian> trever420 speak Russian ?
[19:53] <Jimm_> i just want to boot into ubuntu to move all storage over then i can free up space
[19:53] <EvilResistance> !ru | qw-Russian
[19:53] <trever420> no i dont
[19:53] <EvilResistance> i think...
[19:53] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, i learned yesterday, it can !
[19:53] <kion> Oscar76: or ssh user@ip.add.re.ss
[19:53] <EvilResistance> OerHeks, since when?
[19:54] <trever420> oh i just noticed it's prob cuz it's a RAID system not a single drive
[19:54] <oscar76> kion: It says "Connection timeout"
[19:54] <Jimm_> yeah its goy its own little card thing
[19:54] <Jimm_> but its one drive
[19:54] <trever420> i see
 qw-Russian, Windows cannot read ext4 partitions - I agree
[19:54] <trever420> yea i have 8TB
[19:54] <Jimm_> its a pain lol
[19:54] <trever420> but it's a RAID 10 with 16 drives
[19:54] <oscar76> should ssh be started as a service?
[19:54] <trever420> 16 x 1TB drives
[19:54] <Jimm_> well i have 6tb in total now but all spread out
[19:54] <kion> Oscar76 check first that  1.- you actually "see" the remote machine by pinging to it
[19:55] <trever420> i see
[19:55] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, sinds april 2010, i was surprised too > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[19:55] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, there's no drivers to allow Windows to read EXT4, there was one to allow reading of ext3 / ext2, but you're better of having a separate NTFS partition for Ubuntu and Windows to share
[19:55] <EvilResistance> OerHeks, that has *never* worked with ext4
[19:55] <auronandace> !ext3
[19:55] <EvilResistance> i've tested it
[19:55] <Jimm_> anyway im guna run off n try installing again
[19:55] <Jimm_> thank a million
[19:55] <trever420> np
[19:55] <kion> Oscar76 and 2nd make shure that port 22 or whatever port it is listening on is open on the firewall
[19:56] <kion> Oscar76 and last but not least, check that the remote machine has the sshd program running!!!
[19:56] <trever420> Oscar76 are you trying to ssh into a machine that's not on the LAN??
[19:56] <trever420> or are you on the same network as the machine?
[19:56] <michaelgreen> how do i download internet explorer on xubuntu
[19:56] <kion> oscar76 if it does not  try sudo apt-get install sshd
[19:56] <DynamicFail> are there any packages you need for /dev/video0 to show up correctly? I have a ubuntu laptop that is able to play my webcam video via v4l2:// and I am trying to connect to a version of ubuntu that doesn't have a desktop environment to stream but /dev/video0 doesn't show up... I do get some sort of usbdev2.x to show up?
[19:56] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, I about that and talk
[19:56] <trever420> michaelgreen: IE is for Windows not Linux
[19:57] <michaelgreen> so i only use firefox?
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, there is a russian support channel i think...
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, if you'd prefer to get help in Russian
[19:57] <trever420> well not ONLY firefox, but yes that is the primary one (and the one i prefer)
[19:57] <qw-Russian> no
[19:57] <qw-Russian> i am understand
[19:57] <trever420> i think you can use Google Chrome as well
[19:57] <qw-Russian> other language
[19:57] <oscar76> kion: thanks I think sshd is what I need
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, i understand, was just curious :)
[19:57] <Jimm_> slight issue again...
[19:57] <mikester01> Does anyone have a pointer on how to set up serial port access for the boot process? I've gone through the steps here (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/02/msg00426.html), but I don't see the boot output in my serial console
[19:57] <michaelgreen> well it says my browser is not up to date
[19:57] <qw-Russian> =)
[19:58] <trever420> maybe it's not up to date michael
[19:58] <trever420> michaelgreen, try typing in the terminal "sudo apt-get upgrade all"
[19:58] <auronandace> !ies4linux | michaelgreen
[19:58] <kion> oscar76 Check those 3 things i mentioned, ssh is a great program and to me it allways comes in handy
[19:58] <Jimm_> trever, can i borrow you again a min?
[19:58] <trever420> yes jimm_ wats up?
[19:59] <dezza_k> Evening all. Hardware clock is UTC+5, server is a virtual machine and I can't change this. I want to set local time to UTC. If I use dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, will ntp not *try* and change the hardware clock back?
[19:59] <Jimm_> the larger partition wont go through, any thing i might of done wrong?
[19:59] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, do you working Lazarys project ? ony were
[19:59] <trever420> dezza_k what virtualization technology are you using?
[19:59] <qw-Russian> lazarus *
[19:59] <qw-Russian> sorry
[19:59] <trever420> what do you mean won't go through?
[19:59] <dezza_k> not sure. It's a godaddy "virtual datacentre"
[20:00] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, what?
[20:00] <kion> Oscar76  Sorry the command is sudo apt-get install ssh,  not sshd
[20:00] <trever420> how large is the bigger partition Jimm_ ?
[20:00] <Jimm_> like when you click the green tick to apply the partitions
[20:00] <kion> Oscar76 i think this will install both the server and the client
[20:00] <trever420> is there an error?
[20:00] <Jimm_> 2.17tb
[20:00] <zykotick9> kion: your right, it does
[20:00] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, what system do you use ?
[20:00] <qw-Russian> =)
[20:00] <oscar76> kion: I already got ssh, how do I get it running in the remote server?
[20:01] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, a Dell laptop, a Dell PowerEdge Server, and three netbooks :P
[20:01] <EvilResistance> each with Ubuntu
[20:01] <trever420> oh i know why jimm
[20:01] <mneptok> !ot
[20:01] <trever420> jimm_: it needs to use the GPT Partition table
[20:01] <qw-Russian> understand
[20:01] <trever420> not the MSDOS partition table
[20:01] <kion> oscar76: on the remote server type on a terminal sudo apt-get install ssh
[20:01] <trever420> MSDOS has a 2TB limit
[20:01] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, if you have to ask, go ask general chat questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:01] <EvilResistance> i do lurk there :P
[20:01] <Jimm_> so if i make 2 more partitions it should work?
[20:01] <trever420> no
[20:02] <trever420> hold on a sec
[20:02] <Jimm_> k
[20:02] <qw-Russian> does not stand
[20:02] <kion> oscar76 after installing try  sudo service ssh start
[20:03] <trever420> jimm_ give me like 2 minutes I need to check something... i gotta boot gparted first from my Virtual Machine
[20:03] <yellabs> hi there
[20:03] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partition, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:03] <Jimm_> kk, i gota grab my korma anyway
[20:03] <oscar76> kion: thanks again, I installed it and it's now running.  I'll try again
[20:03] <DynamicFail> What could cause my camera to work find with v4l2:// on one ubuntu 10.04 machine but not on the other 10.04 machine?
[20:04] <sidb> Hello everyone here, I have dual boot window7 - ubuntu 11.10 installed on a HP-G6-1219tu laptop.Earlier i had a serious problem with my broadcom`s wifi driver i solved through internet. But now ubuntu`s default bluetooth manager says "No bluetooth adapter found" and blueman says nothing at all.  I was using broadcom`s driver on windows7
[20:04] <DynamicFail> fine*
[20:04] <kion> make shure that the firewall has the port 22 open
[20:04] <yellabs> got a little problem , i copied my old 10.04 partition to an new ssd drive, and reinstalled grub , but it does not load the swap i made, how can i activate the swap at boot ?
[20:04] <kion> oscar76 you can open the port with   sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[20:05] <yellabs> any tips are welcome
[20:05] <yellabs> to auto activate my linux swap at boot
[20:05] <zykotick9> yellabs: "sudo swapon /device" should work temporarily, check /etc/fstab for the mount options for you swap (they may have changed UUID or /dev)
[20:06] <OerHeks> yellabs, http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-enable-disable-swap-partition.html should work
[20:06] <sidb> well for the swap /dev/... option works totally fine
[20:06] <sidb> there is no need to hassel for the uuid
[20:06] <yellabs> thanks , i am reading it ...
[20:07] <kion> oscar76  sorry i missed a minus sign, the correct command is  sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[20:07] <trever420> jimm_ u back?
[20:07] <DynamicFail> EvilResistance, Do you know why a camera would work fine (ie show up as /dev/video0 and be able to play with v4l2:// via vlc) on one computer running 10.04, but not work on another computer (shows up as /dev/usbdev2.X)?
[20:07] <zykotick9> sidb: using /dev in fstab isn't a good idea, they have a tendency to change (thus UUID or Labels is preferred)
[20:07] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:07] <trever420> ok booting gparted now give me one sec
[20:07] <Jimm_> k
[20:07] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, you should ask the channel in general, not just direct questions to me :P
[20:07] <trever420> i'm using the live gparted cd (not ubuntu) but they are the same
[20:08] <DynamicFail> EvilResistance, You seem to answer quite a few
[20:08] <OerHeks> yellabs, after this, add  discard,noatime to your Fstab
[20:08] <arno> ello
[20:08] <arno> hello$
[20:08] <sidb> zykotick9, i agree with that. But genrally we do not do change these partitions that oftenly.
[20:08] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, its better to ask the channel in general, rather than ask specific users
[20:08] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, because specific users have their own circles of expertise.  video isnt one of mine.
[20:08] <golberg> ciao a tutti
[20:08] <golberg> !list
[20:08] <EvilResistance> video/camerastuffs *
[20:09] <zykotick9> !it | golberg
[20:09] <sidb> ok guys i have a problem here too. My ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my bletooth. Please help
[20:09] <Guest55049> what thinking about ubuntu vs ati car
[20:09] <Viman> italian sounds nice
[20:09] <Guest55049> d
[20:09] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:09] <DynamicFail> Does anyone including but NOT limited to EvilResistance know why a camera would work fine (ie show up as /dev/video0 and be able to play with v4l2:// via vlc) on one computer running 10.04, but not work on another computer (shows up as /dev/usbdev2.X)?
[20:09] <yellabs> i see i can enable and disable swap with gparted, but how do i set it so its auto started at startup ..
[20:10] <EvilResistance> yellabs, via fstab
[20:10] <trever420> jimm_ give me a minute i gotta create a virtual hard disk to work with...
[20:10] <trever420> sorry
[20:10] <trever420> lol
[20:10] <meskarune> DynamicFail: you might need specific drivers installed
[20:10] <pawiecki> hi! I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. I installed it, sudo update - upgraded and now when i try to boot it shows: Syslinux[...] Error: No syslinux configuration found
[20:10] <OerHeks> yellabs, enable it, and it should be enabled on boot
[20:10] <Dean> Does the standard 11.10 cd installation come with hard-drive encryption?
[20:10] <Jimm_> you say i need a different table yeah?
[20:10] <meskarune> ubuntu does not have every driver in existance pre-installed by default
[20:10] <DynamicFail> meskarune, if both comps are running ubuntu wouldn't they have the same drivers... and if not how would I check to see what is different for usb/video related things
[20:10] <EvilResistance> !fstab | yellabs
[20:10] <zykotick9> OerHeks: actually, enabling swap will NOT update entry in fstab
[20:10] <arginfarb> nuts, someone mentioned twinview, what was the other thing to use for a multi-monitor setup?
[20:11] <meskarune> DynamicFail: you can use lsub to list usb devices and see if they are being detected
[20:11] <EvilResistance> yellabs, make sure you ask if you have questions about what to put for the swap, otherwise bad things could happen
[20:11] <EvilResistance> yellabs, i also dont have a linux system in front of me, so i cant help you set up the specifics
[20:11] <meskarune> DynamicFail: also is one computer a different architecture? like 64 bit vs. 32 bit>?
[20:12] <trever420> yes u need to use GPUID or GPT whatever gparted has it as
[20:12] <trever420> i cant remember
[20:12] <DynamicFail> lsusb command not found on the comp that isn't working
[20:12] <trever420> i'm sure it's there tho
[20:12] <Jimm_> i found it
[20:12] <Jimm_> your right it was set to msdos
[20:12] <oscar76> kion: It stills times out.  How do I see if port 22 is open?
[20:13] <meskarune> DynamicFail: lsub (you have an extra s)
[20:13] <kion> Oscar76 on the server do sudo netstat -tvnlp
[20:13] <DynamicFail> meskarune, lsub doesn't work on either machine
[20:13] <sidb> Friends, please someone help me here. I have a dual boot windows7 - ubuntu 11.10 running on a hp-g6-1219tu laptop. My ubuntu is not detecting the bluetooth.
[20:13] <DynamicFail> meskarune, ubuntu 10.04
[20:13] <pawiecki> hi! I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. I installed it, sudo update - upgraded and now when i try to boot it shows: Syslinux[...] Error: No syslinux configuration found No Default or UI configuration directive found
[20:13] <trever420> jimm_ srry it's tkaing a bit.. i had to allocate enough space for my datastore in vmware
[20:13] <yellabs> would update grub with swap on do the trick ?
[20:13] <kion> Oscar76 and you should have a  list of all the ports the system is listening to with their associated program name
[20:13] <trever420> just booting gparted again
[20:13] <Jimm_> kk
[20:14] <kion> Oscar76 look for port 22 and program sshd
[20:14] <tck9> is it possible to gunzip a file but only extract files that start with temp* in the archive?
[20:14] <tck9> it's a really large gzip file and i don't want to extract everything in it
[20:14] <oscar76> kion: port 22 is listed but no sshd associated to it
[20:14] <trever420> jimm_ u there?
[20:14] <zacarias> In VLC, I messed up with skins. I moved the whole skins to /usr/share/vlc/skins2 and VLC stoppped working. I uninstalled it (with sudo apt-get remove --purge) and installed again, I tried again with synaptic, and nothng. O had deleted the contents of the skins2 folder, and now it says (when I start it via terminal) that it can't find the skins. Shouldn't it install everything again to the right place when I reinstall it?
[20:14] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:14] <trever420> are you in Gparted?
[20:15] <kion> Oscar76 what program is listening on port 22?
[20:15] <Miike> hi
[20:15] <Jimm_> yeh
[20:15] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:15] <trever420> ok select the larger than 2TB partition you have and delete it (make it unallocated)
[20:15] <Jimm_> done
[20:15] <oscar76> kion: it only says    tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               ESCUCHAR    -
[20:15] <trever420> then click on the unallocated partition
[20:15] <yellabs> going for a reboot
[20:16] <trever420> and go up to "Device" in the menu
[20:16] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:16] <trever420> and select create partition table
[20:16] <kion> ok you probbably missed the las p on the command
[20:16] <trever420> then click the "advanced"
[20:16] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:16] <trever420> it'll erase everything on it
[20:16] <trever420> and from the drop down select GPT
[20:16] <trever420> then click apply
[20:16] <mivulf> Where can I read about, how to use default ubuntu 11.10 file browser (nautilus?) through terminal?
[20:17] <meskarune> DynamicFail: can you install lsub? "apt-get install lsub"
[20:17] <Jimm_> done
[20:17] <kion> Oscar76 sudo netstat -tvnlp  Dont miss the last p which asks for the program name
[20:17] <trever420> ok now go and allocate the partition
[20:17] <sidb> please man someone help me here...! My ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my blutooth
[20:17] <trever420> it should now allow you to make it more than 2TB
[20:17] <zykotick9> mivulf: you can't use nautilus though a terminal, what do you want to do exactly?
[20:17] <meskarune> DynamicFail: then run lsub as root and it will list all detected usb devices
[20:17] <Jimm_> is it okay for the hole drive to be that?
[20:17] <trever420> which should mean that XP can also read it
[20:17] <trever420> yea thats fine
[20:17] <Jimm_> great
[20:17] <meskarune> sidb: do you have bluetooth modules installed ?
[20:17] <trever420> if you want
[20:17] <trever420> i dont think it matters
[20:17] <mivulf> zykotick9: for example, i want to open any folder from termianl ^__^
[20:18] <kion> Oscar76 but i am shure that is sshd, ..... lets  see, did you open the port 22 with the command I sent you?
[20:18] <DynamicFail> meskarune, couldn't find package lsub... I really think you are thinking of lsusb... which lists all usb devices and info and is part of the usbutils package?
[20:18] <zykotick9> mivulf: "cd /path" then "ls" to list
[20:18] <trever420> tho if you want windows to read the other >2TB partition u gotta make it NTFS or something that windows can read
[20:18] <trever420> not EXT4
[20:18] <Jimm_> i could kiss you lol
[20:18] <john_doe_jr> What are accessors methods?
[20:18] <trever420> your 100GB should be EXT4
[20:18] <trever420> please dont kiss me :-P
[20:18] <mivulf> zykotick9: yes, but how open it on GUI?
[20:18] <sidb> i just dont know what exactly the problem is. But neither blueman or ubuntu`s bluetooth manager detects it
[20:18] <mivulf> zykotick9: as like double-click
[20:18] <Pici> john_doe_jr: offtopic for this channel. Try ##programming or another channel for whatever language you're programming in.
[20:19] <oscar76> kion: yes I did
[20:19] <john_doe_jr> Pici: alright thanks
[20:19] <Jimm_> legend
[20:19] <mauryck> how can i install kernel3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:19] <sidb> meskarune, i just dont know what exactly the problem is. But neither blueman or ubuntu`s bluetooth manager detects it
[20:19] <trever420> lol... now to delete that 2.5TB virtual drive i created on the company's vm server... lol they'd be pissed
[20:19] <Jimm_> time for curry before its too cold now, night
[20:20] <oscar76> kion: I did sudo service ssh restart   and   sudo netstat -tvnlp but it doesn't show yet
[20:20] <zykotic10> mivulf: you could use "xdg-open file" to get the same effect as what a double click in nautilus would do (usually)
[20:20] <arginfarb> ok am I just completely oblivious or something? how do I get to the options menu in firefox
[20:20] <llutz> oscar76: sudo lsof -i :22
[20:20] <DynamicFail> how do I adjust the power settings for usb ports?
[20:20] <qw-Russian> good bay
[20:20] <qw-Russian> thanks from help me
[20:20] <trever420> jimm_ did it work ok?
[20:21] <mivulf> zykotic10: ah, thx. Thats what I mean. So i must read now about XDG
[20:21] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, i just tries ext2read, but i won't try writing from windows on ext4.
[20:21] <meskarune> sidb: can you install that then? oh here we go: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lsusb.htm
[20:21] <zykotic10> mivulf: there is a Gnome version of xdg-open sorry i forget what it is though
[20:21] <oscar76> llutz: thanks, it's there.  I'll try again
[20:22] <mivulf> zykotic10: thanks you very much! =)
[20:22] <Miike> which virtualisation software would you recomment to run windows? Xen? VirtualBox?
[20:22] <sidb> meskarune: Thanks for coming forward to help man...! I`ll check the link right away
[20:22] <trever420> vmware Miike
[20:22] <Jak2000> Virtual box
[20:22] <trever420> or vbox
[20:22] <trever420> which ever is easiest for you
[20:22] <trever420> i have a vmware server
[20:23] <meskarune> I like virtual box more than vmware
[20:23] <mauryck> how can i install kernel 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:23] <meskarune> plus there is an open source version of virtual box
[20:23] <trever420> i guess it depends on what you are doing meskarune
[20:23] <trever420> you cant cluster vbox unfortunately
[20:23] <trever420> :-(
[20:23] <Miike> is vbox == virtualbox?
[20:23] <meskarune> yeah
[20:23] <trever420> yes vbox is virtual box
[20:23] <meskarune> I try to have mostly open source stuff on my box
[20:24] <trever420> i have both VMWare ESXi and VMWARE server
[20:24] <arginfarb> except that I think there's gotta be some issues with the VB kernel cuz I get hard freezes all the time on VB
[20:24] <trever420> meskarune, why?
[20:24] <arginfarb> it *is* free though, so theoretically I can't complain
[20:24] <arginfarb> but I still do
[20:24] <meskarune> trever420: political reasons. its pretty offtopic though
[20:24] <arginfarb> (complain that is)
[20:24] <trever420> i see... i normally use open source too... but since vmware is free i dont mind using it
[20:25] <trever420> tho i havent used vmware player much (which i guess is similar to virtual box in functionality
[20:25] <meskarune> trever420: you could read up on rms to know more. (richard stallman)
[20:25] <oscar76> kion: now I see it   tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               ESCUCHAR    3843/sshd
[20:25] <Viman> is there a specific command to upgrade the Linux kernel?
[20:25] <trever420> i am very familiar with Richard Stallman i was only in his lectures for an entire semester
[20:25] <sidb> meskarune, I am not using usb bluetooth device. i have tried using the command sudo lspci and following is the output
[20:25] <sidb> sudo lspci
[20:25] <sidb> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[20:25] <sidb> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:25] <sidb> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
[20:26] <trever420> when i was at MIT
[20:26] <sidb> 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
[20:26] <FloodBot1> sidb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Viman  you mean other than apt-get upgrade?
[20:26] <oscar76> kion: but it just doesn't connect
[20:26] <Viman> yes. kernel.org gives latest stable v3.2, while mine's just been upped to 3.0.16
[20:26] <cfhowlett> mauryck: sudo apt-cache search kernel-image
[20:26] <meskarune> mauryck: I would suggest using debian testing if you want the 3.2 kernel (I'm using it right now. increased battery life on my laptop \o/ "
[20:26] <trever420> i was just seeing if you had a reason ;-)... alot of people say they like opensource cuz it means free... which isnt always true... i was just testing you meskarune
[20:26] <sidb> i am not able to know which one is for bluetooth
[20:26] <Pici> Viman: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade packages like that, especially the kernel.
[20:27] <cfhowlett> mauryck: followed by $ sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.xx-yy-generic
[20:27] <Pici> !latest | Viman
[20:27] <Viman> so really 3.0.16 is the most bleeding edge it gets?
[20:27] <yellabs> i have got my swap working, just wanted to say, thank you again, one of the greatest things about ubuntu is its community, hmm, yes love it ! :)
[20:27] <Miike> damn - Ubuntu Software Center seems to be stuck on installing Synaptic :-(
[20:27] <OerHeks> sidb, use paste.ubuntu.com and send us the url
[20:27] <meskarune> trever420: keep the penis measuring contests to off-topic. :P
[20:28] <Pici> Viman: 3.2 will be in the next release of Ubuntu.
[20:28] <Pici> meskarune: Lets keep the language family friendly as well.
[20:28] <OerHeks> yellabs, have fun
[20:28] <sidb> Oerheks, Hmm i think i just got punished for that. been muted. man this IRC has got tuff rules. But i didnt meant to flood the channel...:(
[20:28] <meskarune> pici: sorry. didn't know a euphamism for that
[20:28] <yellabs> yeah, great ssd drive
[20:29] <yellabs> i cant hear any noise from this one...
[20:29] <yellabs> and its fast
[20:30] <OerHeks> yellabs, take a look at  discard ( for auto trim) and noatime ( for less writing actions)
[20:30] <ElderSyrinx> I have a workgroup issue if anyone can help I'd be grateful.  ubuntu 11.10 on a windows 7 workgroup.  The workgroup has a password.  I'm getting an error when I attempt to access the network.... "unable to mount location, failed to retrieve share list from server".  Is this password related or something else?
[20:30] <kaiowas> so gonna try again..
[20:30] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:30] <meskarune> viman: if you want bleeding edge, use debian testing or arch linux. if you want stability with most of the bugs ironed out, ubuntu LTS is better
[20:30] <mauryck> meskarune, how can i use debian testing?
[20:30] <Trevor69420> bleh computer just crashed strange
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Viman  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Development_model
[20:30] <llutz> yellabs: but be warned: if you use discard and you delete files, theres no way to get them back (besides backups)
[20:30] <OerHeks> yellabs, my fstab looks like this > UUID=cb666b2a-5d6d-4ec4-a56d-a7903866933f /               ext4    discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:31] <yellabs> hmm, yes i will do that, i will ask you later when we meet again.. to tired right now ..
[20:31] <arginfarb> hmm... nvidia-settings doesn't seem to have a way for me to configure multiple monitors, anyone know how to do this without editing xorg.conf?
[20:31] <meskarune> mauryck: you install debian to your computer. :P
[20:31] <Viman> right. It's just funny because the whole userland gets updated jjust like other distros, but the kernel seems to lag behind (2.6x in 10.04, still)
[20:31] <meskarune> mauryck: or check out linux mint debian edition
[20:31] <OerHeks> llutz, do you use noatime only ?
[20:32] <llutz> OerHeks: nope, i have backups :)
[20:32] <wjimn> kaiowas: not that i can think of, unless there's an installer that works from OSX like there's a Windows installer
[20:32] <Pici> Viman: The rest of userland does NOT get updated after a release comes out. Only security updates for those versions.
[20:32] <Viman> do you have to use debian testing to get that rolling release?
[20:32] <meskarune> I use relatime on ssd. but noatime will help with disk writes considerably
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Viman  you're free to join the developper's team
[20:32] <Viman> pici: at least it seems like it. But I see the point.
[20:32] <charles_____> my "friend" just downloaded ubuntu 11.10, installed it via Windows 7... when he reboots the installer gets stuck, any ideas what we can do?
[20:33] <joeko> how do i change the tty that is displayed when a machine starts
[20:33] <Pici> Viman: If you want a rolling release, debian (testing) is probably for you.
[20:33] <Viman> thanks for the advice.
[20:33] <Trevor69420> joeko maybe the installer is corrupt?
[20:33] <zykotic10> Pici: #debian would say that debian doesn't have a rolling release
[20:33] <Trevor69420> try another download?
[20:33] <Pici> zykotic10: this isn't #debian ;) :P
[20:33] <DynamicFail> I have a webcam that I'm trying to connect to from an embedded computer running Ubuntu 10.04.1 (custom build). I tested the camera and was able to play it in vlc on a normal laptop running ubuntu 10.04.3. On the normal laptop it shows up as video0 no problem, however on my embeded computer it shows up as usbdev2.X. I'm guessing there is some sort of drivers/packages not installed in the custom build... but I have no idea what. For example the custom bu
[20:33] <DynamicFail> ild didn't even have usbutils installed. Any thoughts on what packages etc would need to be installed in order to get v4l2 to work?
[20:34] <joeko> I am using preseeding
[20:34] <mauryck> meskarune, lol i have a lot of stuff in this machine. Thats not an option
[20:34] <Jimm_> trevor?
[20:34] <meskarune> mauryck: you'll just have to wait to ubuntu to update then. :P
[20:35] <mauryck> yeah i guess
[20:36] <meskarune> depending on what you do with your computer rolling release or standard release can be better/worse
[20:36] <mauryck> it is just that my keyboard writes on its own and it is a bug related to the dkms thingy and i have tried everything to fix it
[20:36] <mauryck> so i thought a new kernel would work
[20:36] <charles_____> my "friend" just downloaded ubuntu 11.10, installed it via Windows 7... when he reboots the installer gets stuck, any ideas what we can do?
[20:37] <meskarune> standard release is better for servers and computers you don't want to have change constantly. also better for stability. rolling release is better for security and having the lastest software packages - which can be important if you have very new hardware
[20:37] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to change time in a local user? By command line please
[20:37] <Jimm_> trevor are you still about mate?
[20:37] <Miike> what's bad about xen virtualisation?
[20:37] <BlouBlou> by local user I mean single user, without using sudo, I'm in a shell
[20:37] <mauryck> man date, to change the time i think you have to be root
[20:38] <meskarune> BlouBlou: you can use date or time to change the time and date. or hwclock if you need to change the hardware clock, but you need root for that
[20:38] <oscar76> kion, llutz: I tried running ssh from the other pc and it says connection timeout too.  When I ping from the server it can't see the other pc.  may this be the problem ?
[20:38] <meskarune> charles_____: does the installer give you any errors?
[20:39] <meskarune> oscar76: make sure you have port 21 open in your router
[20:39] <BlouBlou> meskarune: I can't then, I'll have to live with GMT time :P
[20:39] <llutz> oscar76: if you don't use some icmp-filtering, yes
[20:39] <kion> Oscar76 yes that is the problem
[20:39] <gotwig> hey
[20:39] <Viman> sup
[20:40] <gotwig> you saw that new global menu mockup thing at omg ubuntu o.0???
[20:40] <kion> are both computers in the same network?
[20:40] <gotwig> horrible IMHO
[20:40] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:40] <kion> Oscar76 are both computer on the same networks
[20:41] <DynamicFail> What packages help a camera show up as /dev/video0 as opposed to /dev/usbdev2.X ?
[20:41] <Bonny> Hi. I need some help installing ubuntu on my flashdrive and making it bootable
[20:41] <metsys23> hey guys... i need a little advice: which is the best google talk linux client for you? i am using pidgi but i think thant i do not recieve all the messages... :(hey guys... i need a little advice: which is the best google talk linux client for you? i am using pidgi but i think thant i do not recieve all the income messages
[20:41] <oscar76> kion: no,  one is with cable (desktop) and the other mobile broadband (netbook)
[20:41] <ikonia> metsys23: don't need to repeat and put it inj brackets
[20:42] <Guest75773> Is anyone here that can help me out with installing ubuntu on usb for netbook.
[20:42] <oscar76> metsys23: I use pidgin too and it seems to work fine
[20:42] <metsys23> ikonia, sorry, copy past error :)
[20:42] <ikonia> not a problem
[20:42] <kion> oscar76: ok That is the problem, you need to configure the server router to forward port 22 to the server machine
[20:42] <mbeierl> BlouBlou, that's not the "time", that's the LOCALE.  GMT, etc are set by /etc/localtime or by environment variable
[20:43] <meskarune> metsys23: centerim? look up jabber clients in the software center. :)
[20:43] <oscar76> kion: right now I just got lost :-(
[20:43] <usuario_> apa
[20:43] <Guest75773>  Is their anyone that can help me.
[20:43] <kion>  oscar76:  lost??
[20:43] <usuario_> ola wapa
[20:43] <Viman> say it, guest
[20:44] <usuario_> qee ases?
[20:44] <Pici> !es | usuario_
[20:44] <Guest75773> I need help installing ubuntu on usb
[20:44] <Guest75773> and making it bootable
[20:44] <Viman> from a ubuntu machine?
[20:44] <oscar76> kion: I think dont know how to do that
[20:44] <Guest75773> No from windows
[20:44] <Guest75773> I have wubi installed atm
[20:44] <Viman> ok, search for unetbootin
[20:44] <Guest75773> ok
[20:44] <Viman> and download the program.
[20:45] <Guest75773> Alrighty
[20:45] <theon> Hmm what can I do about my thunderbird data that is stored in home? (1.2gb+ right now, only on a 13gb partition ... a bit too much)
[20:45] <zykotic10> Guest75773: do you want the installER on the USB, or the actual install?
[20:45] <Viman> you then just need an empty usb drive that can fit the iso
[20:45] <kion> oscar76: find out the inside ip of the router might be and connect to it with your web browser, that will lead you to the configurations of the router
[20:45] <metsys23> oscar 76, sometimes I have pidgin and gmail (on the browser) open at the same time, and receive it in gmail but not on the pidgin.
[20:45] <theon> I could just delete the map but I' m not sure what would happen if I did, so I wanted to check before I did anything I might regret later
[20:46] <Guest75773> zykotic i want to boot from the usb
[20:46] <Guest75773> and install it to the hardrive
[20:46] <kion> oscar76: next find out the ip of the server  we will call it  ServerIp
[20:46] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can use unetbootin
[20:46] <zykotic10> Guest75773: ok, unetbootin should work then.
[20:46] <Viman> unetbootin is your tool
[20:46] <Guest75773> I finished installin git
[20:46] <oscar76> kion: I think its 192.168.1.1 but let me see
[20:46] <Guest75773> installing*
[20:46] <kion> oscar76:  finally configure the router to forward all traffic to port 22 to the Serverip
[20:46] <meskarune> Guest75773: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:46] <Guest75773> I already installed it
[20:46] <seryth> How can I install the nvidia_173_updates package from terminal?
[20:46] <Viman> run it and follow the instructions, ans you should be good to go
[20:46] <kion> oscar76: ok try to connect to it!
[20:46] <pukeko> hey is there a MS office chan anywhere i have a Outllok question..
[20:47] <meskarune> pukeko: freenode is for open source projects. microsoft isn't open source. :P
[20:47] <metsys23> meskarune, centerim, I had never heard of it, I am instaling it, thanks!
[20:47] <zykotic10> pukeko: you could try ##windows they might know
[20:47] <Guest75773> It only has upto verson 10.04..
[20:47] <pukeko> meskarune: ahh (doh!) thanks
[20:48] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can use your own iso. just download the regular ubuntu iso file and use unetbootin with that to make a live usb
[20:48] <Viman> Guest: download the ISO from ubuntu.com
[20:48] <Viman> it works just as well
[20:48] <kion> oscar76:we can find out the server ip and the router ip by issuing the command "ifconfig" on the server
[20:48] <Guest75773> so leave the version blank?
[20:49] <Viman> choose "disk image"
[20:49] <Viman> then search for the downloaded ISO
[20:49] <Viman> (after you downloaded it)
[20:49] <DynamicFail> how do I check to see if uncvideo was installed
[20:49] <Guest75773> Ok ive doen that now
[20:50] <Guest75773> What do i put for type
[20:50] <Guest75773> usb or hardrive?
[20:50] <Viman> USB,
[20:50] <Viman> then choose it, and press next
[20:50] <Guest75773> Will this work on a sandisk cruzer usb?
[20:50] <seryth> How can I install the nvidia_173_updates package from terminal?
[20:50] <Guest75773> 4gb
[20:50] <yellabs> hmm, trying to get noatime to work, but i dont know if i did it the right way
[20:50] <meskarune> kion: ifconfig is being replaced by iproute2
[20:51] <Viman> I don't know about it, but it's big enough to fit
[20:51] <wjimn> how can i change the color or get rid of the background rounded boxes behind my unity launcher icons?
[20:51] <Viman> so I guess it does
[20:51] <v3trae> anyone figure out how to add icons to the cinnamon bar?
[20:51] <yellabs> added it to fstab, is that the right way ?
[20:51] <Guest75773> Will it?
[20:51] <Viman> try it, i think it does
[20:51] <yellabs> like this
[20:51] <yellabs> ext4 rw,noatime,
[20:51] <Guest75773> You there?
[20:51] <OerHeks> yellabs, my fstab looks like this > UUID=cb666b2a-5d6d-4ec4-a56d-a7903866933f /               ext4    discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:52] <meskarune> yellabs: you can use relatime instead of default disk mount options for an ssd (or to save battery life on a laptop)
[20:52] <kion> meskarune: thanks for the advice, just tried it on my terminal, my ubuntu box does not know that command
[20:52] <DynamicFail> How do you test to see if drivers are installed... I know by default ubuntu 10.04 has uncvideo/gspca but I need to check to see if it was included in a custom build I have... and if they weren't install them.
[20:52] <yellabs> replace noatime with relatime ?
[20:52] <Guest75773> meskarune: Does this work on a sandisk cruzer usb?
[20:53] <yellabs> in the fstab entry ?
[20:53] <kion> oscar76: how is the battle going?
[20:53] <oscar76> kion: I found the DSL router IP address is 192.168.1.1
[20:53] <oscar76> kion: what do I do next?
[20:53] <OerHeks> yellabs, yes, that is oke.
[20:53] <kion> oscar76: go to your web browser and as the address write 192.168.1.1
[20:54] <seryth> oscar76: What're you trying to do?
[20:54] <Guest75773> Do i put anything for space used to presrve files across reboots (ubuntu only)
[20:54] <yellabs> so relatime is better then the noatime option ?
[20:54] <kion> oscar76: that will lead you to the configuration options of the router
[20:54] <meskarune> kion: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.iproute2.html  with linux kernels over 2.2 you should be using iproute2 instead of ifconfig (though ifconfig will still work, just might run into some issues)
[20:54] <Guest75773> Please answer me.
[20:54] <Guest75773> Meskarune
[20:55] <yellabs> i hope i understand you the right way OerHeks ...
[20:55] <Guest75773> Meskarune
[20:55] <meskarune> Guest75773: as long as your usb is formated correctly, it will work on any usb drive :P
[20:55] <kion> oscar76 NAT
[20:55] <meskarune> Guest75773: also don't fllood the channel. have some patience. :P
[20:55] <Guest75773> How do format it correctly
[20:55] <seryth> Guest75773: There is documentation about this.
[20:55] <JonathanCutrell_> Does anyone have a quick way of exposing SSH through my public IP? Is there any official docs on this?
[20:55] <kion> oscar76: go NAT and you need to forward port 22 to the serverIP which should be 192.168.1.XXX
[20:56] <seryth> !usb | Guest75773
[20:56] <JonathanCutrell_> haha
[20:56] <Guest75773> How do you format it correctly?
[20:56] <kion> meskarune:  i am using 3.0.0.16 and still does not know that command.
[20:56] <seryth> JonathanCutrell_: What do you mean "exposing"?
[20:56] <Guest75773> Please ive read over this im not sure what to do. Thats why i came to irc
[20:56] <meskarune> kion: then you need to install iproute2 :P
[20:56] <JonathanCutrell_> forwarding - sorry about that. I actually have two routers...
[20:57] <JonathanCutrell_> one DSL (crappy) router/modem,
[20:57] <JonathanCutrell_> as well as a Time Capsule.
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773:  your usb drive should be formated as fat32
[20:57] <Guest75773> I just need to know how to format my usb correctly
[20:57] <slackin_> #pugbot WILL BE GOING DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE FOR A FEW HOURS. PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT.
[20:57] <seryth> ............
[20:57] <Guest75773> How do u format it as fat 32?
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773:  windows has disk tools to do that
[20:57] <Pici> slackin_: /asay is bad. Don't do that again here.
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773: most likely it already is fat32. use the disk tools on windows to check
[20:57] <yellabs> hmm, i scrolled back and concluded that noatime is the right option
[20:57] <slackin_> i forgot i was on freenode
[20:58] <Guest75773> I know but how do i clear everything from usb
[20:58] <kion> meskarune: ok thanks for the advice, i will document myself on iproute2
[20:58] <marco> ciao
[20:58] <seryth> Guest75773: In windows, right click on the USB stick > Format > FAT32, it's pretty simple
[20:58] <blitz> you can usually right click on the drive and there should be a format option in windows..
[20:58] <meskarune> yellabs: noatime will mess up time sensitive files, like email if you use a client. relatime will only add time stamps for files that are under use so mail won't be messed up, but it sill reduces disk writes
[20:58] <seryth> Guest75773: A bit of googling will help you. There are countless tutorials for installing from a usb stick.
[20:59] <Guest75773> do i check quick format or create and MS-DOS startup disk
[20:59] <blitz> are you trying to create a linux bootable usb drive?
[20:59] <Guest75773> Yes blitz
[20:59] <yellabs> add it or replace it ( the noatime entry in fstab ) ?
[20:59] <blitz> there are programs that do it all for you
[20:59] <zykotic10> blitz: unetbootin requires FAT partitioned drive to work
[20:59] <Guest75773> Im tryign to figure out how to use unebootin
[21:00] <IanWizard-Cloud> Can I not remove applets from unity?
[21:00] <yellabs> this is how its now : ext4 rw,noatime,
[21:00] <DynamicFail> How do I check if I have UVCVIDEO installed?
[21:00] <blitz> ah
[21:00] <blitz> Guest75773, just do quick format then
[21:00] <Guest75773> Alright ive formatted usb
[21:01] <Guest75773> now what?
[21:01] <meskarune> yellabs: replace noatime with relatime :)
[21:01] <Guest75773> Do i put anything on unebootin where it says space used to preserve files across reboots
[21:01] <trism> IanWizard-Cloud: what would you like to remove? you generally have to uninstall indicators to remove them
[21:01] <yellabs> okey thanks
[21:01] <yellabs> got to go , untill next time
[21:02] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: for instance, the mail / gwibber applet.  I never use, I'd like to remove it... I wouldn't complain if I could add a systray, but that can be solved with other apps.
[21:02] <Guest75773> I am being patient but i just wnat you to not see the message
[21:02] <meskarune> Guest75773: then open unextbootin and choose the ubuntu iso file, and choose your usb device. then run it
[21:03] <Guest75773> Is that all meskarune
[21:03] <blitz> every time apt-get install finished installing something, kbuildsycoca4 is automatically run
[21:03] <Guest75773> Do i put anything for space used to preserve files across reboots
[21:03] <blitz> is that from okular?
[21:04] <trism> IanWizard-Cloud: the envelope indicator is indicator-messages, you can uninstall that to remove it, you can also just uninstall gwibber if you just want to remove the broadcast entry
[21:04] <seryth> Guest75773: You want to install ubuntu right? Then you don't need to leave space for anything.
[21:04] <Guest75773> I want windows too
[21:04] <Guest75773> Im dual booting
[21:04] <blitz> not off the usb drive
[21:04] <Dumb_> hi
[21:04] <Guest75773> h if i do this to my usb
[21:05] <Guest75773> can it be useable again
[21:05] <Dumb_> my ubuntu is not working
[21:05] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: I am unistalling gwibber actually, but I didn't realize that I could just uninstall an indicator.
[21:05] <zykotic10> !notworking | Dumb_
[21:05] <zykotic10> !details | Dumb_
[21:05] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: thx, I still find that aspect of Unity, bass ackwards.
[21:06] <blitz> Guest75773, yeah you can always format it again
[21:06] <Guest75773> Awesome
[21:06] <Guest75773> Soo..
[21:06] <Guest75773> So it will work when i reboot right?
[21:07] <superpsycho> hi, i have a problem with 10.04 lts… last time i try to update it i kicked me out of ssh… is that a known problem ? its a v-server so i´m not able to get physical access...
[21:07] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can put some space down for preserving stuff between boots. if you reboot with the usb plugged in, it should boot up ubuntu. if not, change your bios settings
[21:07] <blitz> some computers can't even boot off usb though
[21:07] <Guest75773> Ok.
[21:07] <lupo20> ciao
[21:07] <lupo20> !list
[21:07] <Guest75773> blitz im using gateway
[21:07] <zykotic10> !it | lupo20
[21:07] <Guest75773> will that work
[21:07] <blitz> just try it out and see I guess
[21:08] <Guest75773> gateway LT2104u
[21:08] <blitz> so does anyone know what would make kbuildsycoca4 automatically run after using apt-get
[21:08] <saruji> anyone have a good article on how to make ubuntu 11.10 run faster on your laptop?  I have a core duo with 2gb using unity 2d and it still does not feel "snappy"
[21:09] <Guest75773> Ok its installing at the moment
[21:09] <DynamicFail> Can you install drivers without having to rebuild your whole system in some easy way like apt-get ?
[21:09] <saruji> or any advice on how to would be great, thanks
[21:09] <Dumb_> ubottu: oh
[21:09] <mbeierl> saruji, 32 bit install, or 64 bit?
[21:09] <saruji> mbeierl, 32bit
[21:09] <blitz> make it faster while still using unity saruji ?
[21:10] <saruji> blitz, ok how can i go back to gnome?
[21:10] <mbeierl> saruji, then the next step I would recommend is xubuntu instead of Gnome...
[21:10] <blitz> I think if you log out there's a gear and you can change it
[21:10] <cfhowlett> saruji: xubuntu or lubuntu are lighter distro's for lower spec machines
[21:11] <saruji> but should a core duo really be put in that category?
[21:11]  * mbeierl really needs to try lubuntu one of these days... heard great things
[21:11] <mbeierl> saruji, it's not the core processor, it's the GPU, the graphics demands of Gnome these days that is the issue
[21:11] <saruji> 2gh
[21:12] <cfhowlett> saruji: 2 gigs of ram?  My 2009 low end of the scale dell came with 4 gigs and a 500 Gig hdd...
[21:12] <Guest75773> How do i select the usb boot option in the bios menue?
[21:12] <cfhowlett> saruji: as mbeierl pointed out, the real issue is the gpu capability
[21:12] <saruji> mbeierl, ok, I' running ati 1400..... cfhowlett that sounds like a microsoft fanboy selling me vista once said
[21:13] <blitz> which is why using another environment might work instead of installing another distro
[21:13] <blitz> right?
[21:13]  * cfhowlett *not sure how to take that - chooses watchful silence*
[21:13] <Guest75773> blitz
[21:14] <Guest75773> how do i select the boot option in the BIOS boot menue
[21:14] <Guest75773> the usb boot option*
[21:14] <mbeierl> saruji, the 1400 is one of the mobility radeon cards.  They are not known for their horsepower.  Therefore cfhowlett's statement about lower spec'd machines is correct here, unfortunately
[21:14] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I got a question, I need a x64 but I accidently downloaded the x32
[21:15] <Simon1245> Is there any way to update it to x64 instead without having to reinstall it all?
[21:15] <zykotic10> Simon1245: nope, reinstall with amd64
[21:15] <mbeierl> Simon1245, there is no upgrade that I have ever come across, sorry
[21:15] <Rounin> Hi! I've just installed ruby 1.9.1, but when I run "ri" to view the documentation, it doesn't find anything, despite it supposedly having been installed. How do I enable the documentation?
[21:15] <lupo20> ciao
[21:15] <lupo20> hi
[21:15] <meskarune> Simon1245: you have to re-download the 64 bit iso and install
[21:15] <waaaagh> hello
[21:15] <Guest75773> How do i choos usb boot option in BIOS boot menue???
[21:15] <mbeierl> Simon1245, however, if you keep your /home, then after the re-install your data will still be there
[21:15] <Simon1245> zykotic10, mbeierl ah alright
[21:15] <blitz> Guest75773, it's supposed to be auto set to it
[21:15] <Simon1245> Alright, I'll do it now :)
[21:15] <Guest75773> ok
[21:15] <saruji> i see, shame, if i want to use the full potential of the latest and greatest I would get windows for the support, I thought there was a crowd for those who arent part of the 5 consumer turn over, looks like this distro has lost that, shame
[21:15] <Guest75773> Ill try and come back
[21:15] <cfhowlett> waaaagh: greetings
[21:15] <lupo20> !list
[21:15] <meskarune> Guest75773: go into bios and then choose boot disc usb
[21:16] <Simon1245> By the way, what's the biggest thing that can happen if I use a x32 instead of x64?
[21:16] <mbeierl> saruji, I don't know what you mean.  If you get the latest and greatest lubuntu or xubunut it will work on your lower-powered laptop.
[21:16] <meskarune> Simon1245: 64 bit just uses all your cores (if you have more than 4)
[21:16] <meskarune> I mean 2
[21:17] <Simon1245> meskarune, I just have 2 so that means that I don't need it?
[21:17] <saruji> mbeierl, will give it a shot, just saying this tells me that the distro is taking a different road
[21:17] <zykotic10> meskarune: 64bit has NOTHING to do with CPU Cores.  It has to do with memory.  Simon1245
[21:17] <saruji> mbeierl, thanks
[21:17] <Simon1245> meskarune, My Windows is in x64
[21:17] <meskarune> saruji: use a light wieght linux like puppy for old hardware
[21:17] <Simon1245> zykotic10, I got 4gb ram
[21:17] <mbeierl> Simon1245, also the 4gb limit.  above 4gb (technically 3.2?) you will need to use PAE for addressing the larger area of memory
[21:17] <Innxis> Good evening. So, I installed ubuntu without GRUB, after which I installed if from the live cd but I can't configure it. Any help?
[21:17] <Simon1245> mbeierl, so if I have 4gb it's fine?
[21:18] <zykotic10> Simon1245: 32bit will either 1) not use the full 4GB or 2) with PAE will be a few % slower then optimal
[21:18] <Simon1245> mbeierl, It feels that ubuntu is really slow though, Windows loads much faster and shit so I thought wrong version might be the prblem
[21:18] <bgs2> I'm trying to get an old X Windows game to work on 11.10.  I've gone through a couple of different ways, and I end up with an executable game, but it's apparently missing a font dependency as it says "fatal error: cannot load font".  I'm wondering if anyone could help guide me through this a bit.
[21:18] <Simon1245> What do you guys recommend, change it to x64?
[21:18] <mbeierl> Simon1245, I would almost recommend 32bit over 64 with less than 4gb as the larger addressing space causes you to have less usable memory.  (reference needed)
[21:18] <codemonkey1337> hey guys, how would I get this command to use the ssh port 2222? ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l user localhost
[21:18] <seryth> bgs2: Whine? lol
[21:18] <seryth> Wine*
[21:19] <zykotic10> bgs2: what game?
[21:19] <Simon1245> mbeierl, I got 4gb ram on this laptop so wouldn't it be better to switch it?
[21:19] <mbeierl> Simon1245, define slow.  Anything in particular?
[21:19] <bgs2> seryth: no, the game is for X11/X-Windows, called xjewel
[21:19] <nopf> codemonkey1337: add -p 2222 ?
[21:19] <seryth> bgs2: Oh, I see.. :/ dunno then
[21:19] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: no real benefit to 64 unless you've got 4+ gigs of ram says the official documentation
[21:19] <Simon1245> mbeierl, Like loading everything a firefox app takes like 2-4 seconds and this one is completly clean
[21:19] <codemonkey1337> nopf: where do I add it, I tried adding it as the front parameter, and as the last parameter, but it gives me an error every single time
[21:20] <Simon1245> cfhowlett, Ah so that means I don't really need it as I just have 4gb, right unless I plan to upgrade it
[21:20] <nopf> codemonkey1337: i normally add it in the end...
[21:20] <meskarune> zykotic10: if you put a 32 bit linux on a computer with 64 bit support, its not going to use all the system resources efficiently. it DOES affect how the cpu cores are used
[21:20] <zykotic10> Simon1245: firefox, unfortunatly, isn't a good comparision - it's always been slower in GNU/Linux then microsoft (swiftfox is/was an attempt to remedy that)
[21:20] <mbeierl> Simon1245, what about subsequent loads?  It might just be that your disk cache is cold
[21:20] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: optimize what you have and enjoy!  :)
[21:20] <bgs2> zykotik10: I've installed via a .dsc and dpkg-builder and also via a .deb and Ubuntu software center, but both cases it ends up crashing with the error
[21:20] <Innxis> Any idea?
[21:21] <bgs2> zykotik10:  I meant to say, xjewel is the name of the package.  sorry
[21:21] <zykotic10> bgs2: sorry i never played xjewel, so i'm no help
[21:21] <zykotic10> !tab > bgs2
[21:21] <Simon1245> zykotic10, Oh alright, I downloaded chrome, trying to learn linux I was really interested in this shit like 2-3 years ago but then couldn't come into a computer school... well, lost the interest of it all and now trying to learn about it again :)
[21:21] <nopf> codemonkey1337: just don't put it before -l and user :)
[21:21] <Innxis> Anyone has any idea how can GRUB be configured from a live CD?
[21:22] <Simon1245> mbeierl, didn't get what you meant, sorry mind explaining your question, please?
[21:22] <nopf> codemonkey1337: *between* -l and user i mean
[21:22] <codemonkey1337> nopf: thanks man, I figured it out, it's ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N  -p 2222 user@localhost
[21:22] <meskarune> codemonkey1337: ssh -p 2222 lets you set the port to use
[21:22] <zykotic10> Simon1245: i'd highly recommend Chromium over Google Chrome BTW
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> Chromium <3
[21:23] <Simon1245> zykotic10, Thanks for recomendation, I'll get it from ubuntu software center now :)
[21:23] <Innxis> :|
[21:23] <meskarune> I like midori better than chromium. its lighter weight
[21:23] <Simon1245> zykotic10, How long does it take for you to loadUbuntu software  center? It took me about 2-3 second for opening that aswell :S
[21:24] <zykotic10> Simon1245: i wouldn't know (i don't use ubuntu)
[21:24] <Simon1245> Oh what do you use?
[21:24] <zykotic10> Simon1245: doesn't matter
[21:24] <Simon1245> zykotic10, hmm, what would you recommend someone to use if you lets syy recommended your IRL friend?
[21:24] <d3eniz> Hello all. Im having a problem =/ When i try using the command apt-get update i get a 404 error.
[21:24] <meskarune> Simon1245: you can use CLI tools instead of the software center if you want to install something specific faster
[21:25] <blitz> or try aptitude
[21:25] <Simon1245> meskarune, I got no idea what that is
[21:25] <dlentz> d3eniz, proxy?
[21:25] <meskarune> Simon1245: command line interface. means you update from a terminal emulator
[21:25] <zykotic10> Simon1245: the "doesn't matter" was because it's Offtopic in Ubuntu.  same goes for your follow-up question.  Sorry.  PM me if you want the answer.
[21:25] <blitz> Simon1245, open terminal and use "sudo apt-get install package name"
[21:25] <Simon1245> By the way, how did you all learn how to use this OS? by sticking around in IRC, reading books or something elese?
[21:26] <Pumpkin-> mostly messing around, and then asking questions when messing around fails
[21:26] <dlentz> lots of google..
[21:26] <blitz> Simon1245, practice, irc and goolge
[21:26] <meskarune> Simon1245: I learned from a friend and taking unix admin and networking classes
[21:26] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: find something interesting you want to do, try it out, research the forums, irc, video and tutorials.  One bit at a time.  That's how I learned how to edit video, create podcasts, etc...
[21:26] <Simon1245> meskarune, blitz, Oh that, I found that really interested 2-3 years ago but wasn't able to use it without checking google or IRC
[21:26] <d3eniz> dlentz: well.. yes and no! The ubuntu install is running on a chroot install on my android so im guessing that my androids software might act as a proxy for the ubuntu install
[21:27] <Simon1245> blitz, meskarune, cfhowlett thanks for the recommendation, what would you recommend me to start with?
[21:27] <blitz> I'd recommend getting around with terminal as opposed to anything else
[21:27] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: choose a *small* project/task you want to do with with buntu...
[21:27] <blitz> or atleast trying to
[21:28] <jazz> hello, i am fairly new to linux and i am having a lot of trouble learning how to install software. I am attempting to install Tor through terminal, but I just cant seem to figure it out. would someone be willing to help, please?
[21:28] <waaaagh> hey, does anyone know if Ubuntu can run on a Rapsberry Pi computer?
[21:28] <blitz> jazz what command are you using
[21:28] <Simon1245> cfhowlett, To be honest, I'm pretty clueless what to start wiht, maybe you got some recommendation what I can start off with and slowly learn more and more?
[21:28] <Innxis> Could someone please help me fix my GRUB via a live cd?
[21:29] <blitz> Simon1245, join #ubuntu-offtopic and I'll talk with you about it
[21:29] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: photography.  edit a picture with GIMP.   redeye removal or some such...
[21:29] <jazz> blitz im guessing i have to start with sudo but im really not sure where to start...i was just wondering if someone could walk me through the general process
[21:29] <blitz> sudo apt-get install package-name
[21:29] <cfhowlett> jazz did this: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[21:29] <blitz> do man apt-get
[21:30] <jazz> cfhowlett ok ill check it out. thank you
[21:30] <meskarune> Simon1245: google for some comand ine cheat sheets. ls = list files. cd = change directory, etc and then type those into the command line to learn about your system
[21:30] <Trevor69420> if you drop your Dell laptop off a boat....is it a Dell rolling in the deep?
[21:30] <meskarune> Simon1245: you can also read man pages. put "man ls" into your terminal to read, then hit "q" to exit
[21:31] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: just occurred to me: have you read Full Circle Magazine?
[21:31] <meskarune> Innxis: what is wrong with your grub?
[21:31] <Simon1245> blitz, there, cfhowlett not sure about the gimp thing and what's Full circle magazine, meskarune I've done that before and I know the basics I think of cd, ls and stuff like that, just gotta refresh my mind quickly by going through them again I'll get onto it asap :)
[21:32] <Innxis> I installed Ubuntu without GRUB at first, then I installed GRUB on the partition (I don't want to install it on MBR, I'm using Chameleon as a boot loader) and I can't get to configure it.
[21:32] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[21:32] <Innxis> When I boot into the "linux" option in Chameleon it sends me to a Grub command line
[21:32] <zykotic10> !manual | Simon1245
[21:32] <afxtwn> hi everyone. :9
[21:32] <afxtwn> i'm having some trouble with Xorg maybe someone can help me? i got my 24" monitor to rotate into portrait mode using  RandRRotate. i've got a working xorg.conf file. the thing is... i'd like to have my screen rotated on a minimal  system installation without a gui and don't know how to get it working in portrait mode. any thoughts?
[21:32] <meskarune> Innxis: you can't add your linux install to chameleon?
[21:33] <jazz> hey guys im still a little stuck...could someone help me out? https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[21:33] <cfhowlett> Innxis: dual/triple boot here?
[21:33] <jazz> mine is "wheezy/sid"
[21:33] <Innxis> Chameleon detects the GRUB, but grub is not set up to identify Ubuntu.
[21:33] <ibnu> afxtwn: xrandr?
[21:33] <Innxis> Dualboot: Mac - Ubuntu
[21:34] <afxtwn> ibnu, when i tried xrandr i got an error along the lines of unable to start X, or unable to load screen...
[21:34] <meskarune> afxtwn: you can use xrandr or lxrandr for screen rotation
[21:34] <meskarune> afxtwn: unable to startx isn't xrandr related
[21:34] <ibnu> afxtwn: can you post the message
[21:34] <jazz> i dont know what to do here
[21:34] <jazz> * Milos_SD has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[21:34] <jazz> * beboj has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
[21:34] <jazz> oops
[21:34] <mbeierl> Simon1245, sorry - what I was saying about firefox being slow to load is that the first invocation of a program causes it to be loaded off the disk.  Secondary ivocations of commonly used programs have the advantage of being able to use data that is still in the cache.
[21:35] <jazz> jaja here https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[21:35] <jazz> im stuck
[21:35] <Innxis> Any ideas?
[21:35] <mbeierl> Simon1245, but someone else afterwards did say that firefox is slower under Linux, so it's not a fair comparison
[21:35] <cfhowlett> Innxis: did you use refit/gptsynch?
[21:35] <Simon1245> zykotic10, thanks
[21:35] <Innxis> Now, I haven't tried that.
[21:35] <afxtwn> lets say you just did a minimal fedora/ubuntu installation. how would you rotate the screen without graphics cards, etc. is there something special i need to install. do i have to fuss about with X at all? when i tried to run xrandr it said it couldn't connect to the monitor or something...
[21:35] <Innxis> Any tips on how to do that?
[21:36] <afxtwn> hmph, sorry but i'm running in a gui right now.
[21:36] <cfhowlett> Innxis: point me to the tutorial you're using to install...
[21:36] <meskarune> afxtwn: you need x for graphical applications. :P
[21:36] <Innxis> I'm not trying to install according to a tutorial, I'm a freelancer.
[21:37] <meskarune> afxtwn: http://ubuntunation.blogspot.com/2009/11/howto-rotate-screen-in-linux-using.html
[21:37] <Innxis> Look, I'm just trying to get GRUB configured to boot my from my partition (hda0,3) without installing it in the MBR
[21:37] <Simon1245> mbeierl, oh
[21:37] <Zillow> how do I move home to another user?
[21:37] <ibnu> afxtwn: xrandr need a running xserver
[21:37] <Simon1245> mbeierl, I'll try chrominues ors omething liek that to see how it works :)
[21:37] <mbeierl> afxtwn, sorry - I'd like to confirm what you want.  You would like the text console (tty) to be rotated?
[21:38] <cfhowlett> Innxis: perfectly fine if you MUST make your own way - I would only point out that there ARE those who've done this before AND documented the struggle....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[21:38] <afxtwn> ibnu, thanks. that's important to know. aside from installing x, is it an installed process to get it running well enough to run xrandr and go?
[21:38] <meskarune> Zillow: make a new user, then move your files over to that?
[21:38] <mbeierl> Simon1245, I'm a die-hard firefox user, so... You can try, but I find once loaded, ff is as quick...
[21:38] <afxtwn> mbeirl that is correct.
[21:38] <ejv> Hello, need help, my dmesg is filled with: "generic-usb 0003:051D:0002.0001: control queue full" making it IMPOSSIBLE to ask my APC UPS for any information. How do I fix this?
[21:38] <Zillow> meskarune, it's that easy??
[21:39] <mbeierl> afxtwn, the rotation using xrandr is done at a different level.  That is not the correct tool for rotating the ttys.  It's been a very long time since I've looked at that, but I think you might be wanting a framebuffer tty in order to rotate it.
[21:39] <meskarune> Zillow: on my system I have home on a sepperate partition, so if I reinstall linux I can just mount that partition to home. but in your case it might be easier to just make a new user and cp files that you need
[21:39] <Innxis> You're seriously meeting by the bushes around here.
[21:39] <DynamicFail> How would I figure out which driver my webcam uses?
[21:39] <Simon1245> mbeierl, by the way can it be something to do with my computer not meeting the requierments?
[21:39] <mbeierl> afxtwn, rotation is not supported at the BIOS level.
[21:39] <Innxis> *beating
[21:40] <mbeierl> Simon1245, bah.  Nearly any computer can meet linux requirements.  Just depends on what gadgets/bells/eye-candy, etc you choose to go along with it :)
[21:40] <afxtwn> mbeirl:framebuffer ttys. that's something i'll research! thanks for the breadcrumbs!
[21:40] <Innxis> I only ask for an expiation on how to configure GRUB form a Live CD or from the GRUB Command Line.
[21:40] <mbeierl> afxtwn, it's a grub boot-loader time option, iirc
[21:41] <ibnu> afxtwn: framebuffer ttys is a good idea
[21:41] <cfhowlett> Innxis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:41] <Simon1245> mbeierl, I mean this one with untiy thing, maybe that's the main reason it causes lag?
[21:41] <meskarune> Innxis: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst form a live cd with a text editor. just make sure you know how
[21:41] <Zillow> meskarune, that is quite brilliant. I think I will setup similar to that after this. could you by chance tell me if "everything" will be the same in the new user?
[21:41] <metsys23> hey again :) I am a pidgi user and need some help: if I click in X pidgi completly closes. Is there a option to, when i press X, put it in the taskbar like skype for example?
[21:41] <Innxis> I did, doesn't work.
[21:42] <zykotic10> Innxis: don't edit menu.lst - it's not how grub2 works.
[21:42] <afxtwn> thanks everyone! see ya! :)
[21:42] <Innxis> Actually, I used update-grub from the live CD and copied the menu.lst to the grub on the disk.
[21:43] <Innxis> No results.
[21:43] <mbeierl> Simon1245, yes.  That is entirely possible.  Microsoft did spend some time with (I think) Vista, to allow basic vs. eye-candy, and I think it chooses for you.  With Unity, you almost need to try and decide to go 2d explicitly if it does not suit your needs
[21:43] <meskarune> zillow: your program settings should be the same if you do that. if you save themes and icons in home those will stay teh same as well.
[21:43] <zykotic10> Innxis: did you chroot before running update-grub?  see "/msg ubottu grub2" for assistance.
[21:44] <Zillow> meskarune, would flags would be good with cp for this? cp -r? cp -f -r?
[21:44] <Innxis> Zillow: -r = recursive, -f = force
[21:45] <Zillow> meskarune, thankyou so much for the excellent idea of having home on a seperate partition.
[21:45] <Innxis> Zillow: you can stack them by: cp -rf
[21:45] <meskarune> Zillow:  you can do cp -r /home/username /home/newusername
[21:45] <Simon1245> !appdb
[21:45] <meskarune> Zillow: and you may need to edit a few files. don't over write files in the new user's directory unless you know its ok to do so
[21:46] <Zillow> meskarune, excellent! thank-you so much!
[21:46] <Innxis> I have grub 1.9 downloaded from the repositories using apt-get
[21:46] <Innxis> installed using install-grub
[21:46] <Zillow> meskarune, ooo yeh, any way I can skip those?
[21:47] <ibnu> Innxis: after install-grub update-grub
[21:47] <zykotic10> Innxis: grub 1.9 = grub2 (strange i know)
[21:47] <Simon1245> !windows
[21:47] <Zillow> Innxis, thanks, I never knew that was called stacking. thanks for telling me that! :)
[21:49] <Zillow> uh oh, I have a bigger problem now, I forgot I have a shared folder mounted in my user directory and I accidentally drag n dropped after doing a ctrl+a, any possible way of forcing this to stop?
[21:49] <ericus> Would you think that this is a hardware failure when my screen randomly starts to flicker like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/fail.jpg
[21:49] <tyler> anyone know if theres a panel applet for just the sound control, network and other things like dropbox? rather than the email in the applet too?
[21:49] <meskarune> Zillow:  you can use the -u flag to only update missing files in the new user's home
[21:49] <ericus> Or could it be software?
[21:49] <Innxis> [ error:cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)]
[21:49] <meskarune> Zillow:  you can stop something in the terminal by "ctrl c"
[21:50] <ericus> meskarune: I'd like to know that as well!
[21:50] <ericus> I hate the indicator applet
[21:50] <tyler> ericus: me too lol
[21:50] <Zillow> meskarune, this was from nautilus I think
[21:50] <meskarune> Zillow: oh. I don't use nautilus so I"m not sure
[21:50] <ericus> Any ideas on my monitor?
[21:51] <tyler> ericus: do you know if theres another applet like it without the email app thing in it?
[21:51] <Zillow> meskarune, it's no longer a problem, I force quit it from system monitor phewww! :)
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Innxis: You need to chroot first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[21:51] <ericus> tyler: no, sorry. Looking for one myself
[21:51] <meskarune> ericus: can you plug in a different monitor to make sure its not a hardware failure?
[21:51] <tyler> wheres all the ubuntu pros? lol
[21:51] <meskarune> ericus: it looks like a broken inverter to me. you might have to rma it
[21:52] <ericus> RMA?
[21:52] <meskarune> return to manufacturer
[21:52] <ericus> warranty voided :(
[21:52] <adrian___> where can i find mouse theme a little finger
[21:52] <Zillow> meskarune, okay then, as per your & Innxis instructions I will use cp -ru thanks again for your help. :)
[21:52] <adrian___> ?
[21:52] <meskarune> ericus: then you'll have to open teh monitor yourself and check the wires. you can clean them with an alcohol swab and use a soder to fix the inverter
[21:53] <adrian___> old one like in red hat
[21:53] <meskarune> ericus: or pay someone to do it
[21:53] <fsm> Hi all, I've got a quick question. Running 11.10, if I change window managers to xfce for instance, will everything still autostart? Particularly I have stuff in rc.local and want nm-applet, the power manager etc to autostart.
[21:53] <ericus> meskarune: It happens randomly every 5-10 mins. If I close the lid and open it again, everything is ok again
[21:54] <ericus> for another 5-10 mins
[21:54] <meskarune> fsm: anything in rc.local will auto start. you might have to add in some thing to xfce's start up control thingy
[21:54] <tyler> anyone know of an applet like indicator applet that doesn't have email linked to it?
[21:54] <meskarune> ericus: yeah, sounds like a loose inverter to me. it will eventually fail. you need to open the monitor and fix it. there are probably videos on youtube to show you how
[21:55] <ericus> thanks meskarune, I'll have a look at that
[21:55] <meskarune> ericus: sometimes the wires will be a bit corroded, so you clean with with alcohol and then re-soder or stick in a new inverter for your monitor
[21:55] <mattia> !list
[21:56] <XATRIX> hi guys... i've got a problem. after i rebooted several time.and now i have just            bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory
[21:56] <XATRIX> what can i do for it ?
[21:57] <XATRIX> the same situation encountered in Arma2
[21:57] <XATRIX> sorry
[21:57] <ericus> meskarune: and ideas on what I should google for? loose inverter and what?
[21:57] <XATRIX> i mean with many other commands
[21:57] <meskarune> why do people keep !list
[21:57] <codemonkey1337> guys, I'm having alot of trouble trying to do the vnc over ssh tunnel thing. I've been following the directions here http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html . but I keep getting this error message when I try running the command  vncviewer -encodings "copyrect tight zrle hextile" localhost:0
[21:57] <codemonkey1337> Error: Can't open display:
[21:57] <zykotic10> meskarune: they're looking for warez ususally
[21:57] <meskarune> ericus: google for your comptuer model + fix inverter
[21:58] <meskarune> codemonkey1337: you have vnc server installed on a computer?
[21:58] <codemonkey1337> x11vnc, yes
[21:58] <codemonkey1337> it's running inside a virtual machine
[21:58] <__import__> Having an issue installing Server 11.10 on a desktop I have, right after the boot menu on the cd, the display just goes blank.
[21:58] <codemonkey1337> I have ssh running too
[21:59] <meskarune> codemonkey1337: I see. does the virutal machine have bridged networking enabled?
[21:59] <__import__> Tried nomodeset, to no avail
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | __import__
[21:59] <__import__> Jordan_U, already tried that
[21:59] <codemonkey1337> meskarune: Um...I...don't...know what that means, but I think so...I correctly forwared the ports from the host machine to the VM, and from the router to the host machine
[22:01] <zykotic10> codemonkey1337: 1) are you starting your SSH connection with "ssh -X hostname"  2) does your client actually have an Xorg running
[22:01] <codemonkey1337> 1) no, I have no idea what -x does and 2) yes it has an xorg display running
[22:01] <meskarune> codemonkey1337: to connect to the virtual machine like it is a real computer on the network you need bridged networking. depending on what vm you are using, setting that up is different. you might check the wiki
[22:02] <zykotic10> codemonkey1337: -X enables xorg forwarding, important for what you are doing
[22:02] <__import__> Noone has any other idea as to this issue?
[22:02] <codemonkey1337> meskarune: would it help if I said I can connect the vnc viwer directly using port 5900? It works if I'm not doing it over ssh
[22:03] <zykotic10> codemonkey1337: FYI it's -X, -x diables x forwarding
[22:03] <Zillow> meskarune, I'm using "cp -urv /root /home/zillow and it is making a directory labeled root in zillow.
[22:03] <meskarune> Zillow: you shouldn't need to copy over root. just your own users files
[22:04] <zykotic10> Zillow: that's what your telling it to do.
[22:04] <Zillow> meskarune, I've been in root
[22:05] <Zillow> zykotic10, should I use this instead? cp -urv /root/ /home/phase
[22:05] <anonymous44> how do I sudo apt-get install-only <package> without it installing suggested packages?
[22:05] <zykotic10> Zillow: why are you copying /root to you home?
[22:05] <zykotic10> Zillow: but yes, that will copy the contents of /root
[22:06] <Zillow> zykotic10, because I've been in root
[22:06] <meskarune> zillow: only do cp -urv /home/phase /home/newusername
[22:06] <zykotic10> Zillow: that makes no sense to me...
[22:06] <ericus> meskarune: do you really think that it could be the inverter, since the screen is working good for 5-10mins?
[22:06] <trism> anonymous44: suggests are not installed by default, if you mean recommends, --no-install-recommends will disable them
[22:06] <ericus> could it not be some other issue?
[22:06] <meskarune> ericus: its the inverter. I"m 100% sure. I've fixed computer hardware for a very long time
[22:07] <anonymous44> trism: thanks
[22:07] <Zillow> zykotic10, everything I want to move is in root
[22:07] <meskarune> ericus: you need to use an alcohol swap to clean the wires connecting your monitor to your comptuer, and make sure nothing is loose. its easy to fix.
[22:07] <Zillow> zykotic10, not / but root's home
[22:07] <DexterF> hi
[22:08] <meskarune> zillow: if you have a new user, but keep the same install, you will still have the same root
[22:08] <zykotic10> Zillow: ya, i'm following ;) your 2nd cp with the trailing / should work then.
[22:08] <ciaobello> i started the live cd ubuntu 10.04 it ask me for username and pw ... i dont know it
[22:08] <DexterF> looking for a good gui tool to manage gpg keys - pointers?
[22:09] <cyphase> does anyone know of a build of tomboy 1.8.3 for natty?
[22:09] <meskarune> DexterF: gnome keyring?
[22:10] <ericus> okay thanks meskarune. One more question, is the invertor the video cable attatched to the display?
[22:10] <Chipzzz> ciaobello: sounds like you started the installation
[22:10] <Dgameman1> I am willing to pay 5 dollars to anyone that successfully gets my wifi on my ubuntu computer.
[22:10] <Zillow> meskarune & zykotic10, thank-you so much for your help in this but is there any reason why a directory labeled root would be being put in phase? "cp -urv /root/ /home/phase"
[22:10] <meskarune> ericus: http://www.ehow.com/how_7487564_repair-monitor-inverters.html
[22:11] <Kollopoppo> is it possible to have "dock gnome extension" on bottom?
[22:11] <Guest42436> Hello I'm needing to fix it so windows xp boots up when I power on?
[22:11] <mrdeb> no
[22:12] <Kollopoppo> no?
[22:12] <Chipzzz> ericus: there's a little-known, easy, positive test for a bad invertor...
[22:12] <meskarune> Zillow: you copied /root to your home directory. taht is why. you don't need /root in that line. ONLY /home/phase
[22:12] <meskarune> Chipzzz: I already told him to plug in another monitor. :P
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Zillow: Why do you have files in /root/? Have you been logging in as root? Logging in as root is explicitly *not* supported.
[22:12] <Zillow> meskarune, okay, so I only need the destination then?
[22:12] <ericus> tell me about it Chipzzz
[22:13] <Kollopoppo> hi
[22:13] <Chipzzz> meskarune: that works, too ;-)
[22:13] <Kollopoppo> I dont know, how can I start Ubuntu?
[22:13] <Zillow> Jordan_U, I have it supported
[22:13] <Zillow> and now I am going to unsupport it
[22:13] <meskarune> Zillow: to copy from one user's home to another do this: "cp -urv /home/username /home/newusername
[22:13] <Chipzzz> ericus: if you hold an ne-2, ne-51, or similar neon bulb near the high voltage leads coming out of the invertor, it will glow in the presence of high voltage
[22:13] <DexterF> meskarune: can I run that from xfce/kde/kde3 as well or does it need a full gnome desktop?
[22:14] <Kollopoppo> mrdeb, it is actually possible
[22:14] <Chipzzz> ericus: the neon bulbs are available from Radio Shack or similar stores for less than a dollar
[22:14] <Dgameman1> I am willing to pay 5 dollars to anyone that successfully gets my wifi on my ubuntu computer. Can anyone help me?
[22:14] <meskarune> ericus: anyways, I would suggest looking up video or image tutorials for fixing an inverter in your monitor. :) its an easy fix to do for hardware newbies
[22:14] <fb0x> Dgameman1: 10? xD
[22:14] <jrib> !details | Dgameman1
[22:14] <dougwiser> Dgameman1: which wifi adapter
[22:15] <Dgameman1> My ubuntu computer is 10.04 LTS - 64bit
[22:15] <Dgameman1> I can not connect the that computer to the internet.
[22:15] <Dgameman1> I have a usb if I need to transfer files
[22:15] <Dgameman1> MY Wireless USB adapter is 
[22:15] <Dgameman1> Belkin
[22:15] <Dgameman1> Model: F9L1001 Version 1
[22:15] <FloodBot1> Dgameman1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <canis__> I just ported most of my pc parts onto another motherboard.  I was working at first, but when I put in my nvidia card, I get kicked to a terminal and can't get to gnome.  ubuntu 10.04 with upgrades.
[22:15] <Chipzzz> meskarune: you are probably correct, but how can you discount the possibility of a bad gpu without testing?
[22:15] <Kollopoppo> Man, who can help me?
[22:15] <dougwiser> wow FloodBot3 really likes your style
[22:15] <Kollopoppo> I need help
[22:15] <jrib> !helpme | Kollopoppo
[22:15] <meskarune> Chipzzz: if he plugs in another monitor, and that monitor has fuzzy back light issues, its the gpu. :P
[22:16] <Dgameman1> My ubuntu computer is 10.04 LTS - 64bit I can not connect the that computer to the internet. I have a usb if I need to transfer files MY Wireless USB adapter is  Belkin Model: F9L1001 Version 1 FCC ID: K7SF7D1101v1.
[22:16] <Kollopoppo> jrib, nice command
[22:16] <jrib> !wireless | Dgameman1
[22:16] <canis__> I can't even get into failsafe x
[22:16] <Dgameman1> I've done it all.
[22:16] <meskarune> Chipzzz: in any case I"ve never seen gpu issues cause what his computer is doing. (he can fix the screen by moving the laptop lid, means wire issue to me)
[22:16] <Chipzzz> meskarune: oh, it's fuzzy? I thought it was going out entirely after 10 mins or so... sorry, I just got here
[22:16] <Dgameman1> I followed the wifidocs word for word. No errors appeared or anything. It still doesn't work.
[22:17] <Kollopoppo> Dgameman1, buy new computer
[22:17] <Dgameman1> Lol dont even
[22:17] <Kollopoppo> Dgameman1, last solution
[22:17] <meskarune> DexterF: are you trying to isntall multiple DE/WM's ?
[22:18] <Chipzzz> meskarune: I have a Compaq that did that & it was the cable runnint between the case & top... it flexed at the hinge too many times & got flakey
[22:19] <meskarune> Chipzzz: I told him to check the wires and use an alcohol swap to clean them. and then soder anything that is loose
[22:19] <usuario_> j
[22:19] <usuario_> jhjjjjjjjjj
[22:19] <usuario_> jhjjjjjjjj
[22:20] <DexterF> meskarune: no, I'm just on kde3/trinity and that old kgpg... well.. is rather simple and clumsy. but I just discovered "seahorse" which runs standalone and does the job rather well
[22:20] <billyw0nka> hi all
[22:20] <Chipzzz> meskarune: still seems like too many potential issues to call it the invertor at this point :-)
[22:20] <meskarune> lol. looks like usuario_ was having vim keybinding issues. or his cat sat on the keyboard
[22:20] <Chipzzz> lol
[22:21] <meskarune> Chipzzz: look at teh screen shot. its the inverter :P
[22:21] <Chipzzz> meskarune: got a link? I just got here.
[22:21] <Guest42436> with disk utility if I mount the NTFS & unmount Ext4 will xp boot up?
[22:23] <meskarune> Chipzzz: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/fail.jpg
[22:23] <meskarune> Chipzzz: and its fixed with some monitor wiggyling. eventually it won't light up at all. so he needs to  open the monitor and fix it. no warrenty so either do it himself or take it to someone
[22:23] <canis__> What do you do when you can't get into failsafe x?  How can I delete my xorg configuration?
[22:24]  * w30 's cat loves powerfull computers with lots of memory. He can amke a thousand screenshots and not lock up computer
[22:24] <meskarune> canis__: you can use a live cd
[22:25] <canis__> hmmmm.  System was working fine with the onboard nvidia card, now with the nvidia in there too it doesn't want to start.  Is mixing gpu vendors a bad thing?
[22:25] <prower> hello everyone :> i'm using 11.10 and i'm not dual-booting so the grub bootloader screen doesn't appear by default...what button(s) do you have to press/hold to get it to appear on boot? i've seen some guides mention left-shift, others mention escape...i haven't been able to get it to work consistently unless i press both like i'm playing street fighter :>
[22:26] <Chipzzz> meskarune: interesting... I haven't repaired enough of them to recognize it as a bad invertor so I'll have to take your word for it... tnx for the info :-)
[22:26] <zykotic10> prower: with Grub2 HOLD shift after BIOS
[22:26] <Jordan_U> prower: You should hold shift, either left or right.
[22:27] <prower> zykotic10, Jordan_U: Thanks very much, I'll try that when I'm rebooting...just updating the nvidia drivers manually to the version off their site
[22:27] <walid_> saut
[22:28] <meskarune> Chipzzz: well, in any case, if it isn't a loose wire or the inverter, its not gonna be fixed easily. so he'll have to use an external monitor or get a new computer. :P but all the other times I ran into a montor looking like that it was the inverter. :)
[22:28] <walid_> salut
[22:28] <walid_> hi
[22:28] <canis__> I also don't think I can disable the onboard video.
[22:28] <zykotic10> prower: that' "generally" not a good idea BTW
[22:28] <Jordan_U> prower: You're welcome. That said, installing nvidia drivers manually is usually a bad idea. Why do you want to do that?
[22:29] <Chipzzz> meskarune: invertors & cables are pretty inexpensive, so even if it turns out to be something else, he won't have gone far wrong if he replaces them both :-)
[22:30] <prower> in my case i'm installing them manually because with my card, and the versions of the official nvidia drivers that are used by default, i have a number of problems with unity...graphics corruption, occasionally freezing up the entire system and so on...with the latest drivers installed most of those bugs have been fixed
[22:30] <Guest42436> lol
[22:30] <Chipzzz> meskarune: that neon bulb test is excellent for something like this, though... works for spark plug wires too :-)
[22:30] <Guest42436> thx all ;)
[22:32] <cipher__> Is there any simple way of changing icons?
[22:32] <cipher__> (installing new ones_
[22:32] <cipher__> )
[22:32] <prower> zykotic10, Jordan_U: ideally i wouldn't have to install them manually at all, but unfortunately canonical's one-size-fits-all approach to hardware drivers doesn't actually...fit all, so to speak :P i'd much rather be able to let dkms handle everything but if the repository drivers don't work properly for me, then i have to do it the hard way
[22:33]  * kaiowas does the happy dance after successfully installing Spotify
[22:33] <kaiowas> yay im learning
[22:33] <Tomtiger11> What is the latest ubuntu release with arm support?
[22:33] <cfhowlett> !arm>cfhowlett
[22:34] <waaaagh> lol-someone wants a rapsberry pi i guess
[22:34] <Tomtiger11> maybe
[22:34] <cfhowlett> Tomtiger11: see #ubuntu-arm
[22:34] <meskarune> Tomtiger11: use arch linux arm? its awesome on rasberry pi
[22:35] <Tomtiger11> cfhowlett: Is it ready to use?
[22:35] <Guest42436> Me Too! =P
[22:35] <cfhowlett> Tomtiger11: don't know, don't use.  see the link
[22:36] <cipher__> Okay well, change icons easy or not?
[22:37] <Chipzzz> cipher__: if you change the theme, often you get a new set of icons
[22:37] <meskarune> cipher__: you use the theme manager to change icons
[22:37] <kaiowas> I need a mission.. someone tell me something i have to try with ubuntu :).
[22:37] <cipher__> ok
[22:37] <meskarune> cipher__: or you can edit your gtk theme config files if you know what you are doing
[22:37] <cipher__> kaiowas,  sudo rm -r / ?  (i kid, don't run that)
[22:38] <meskarune> kaiowas: install and setup irssi ?
[22:38] <kaiowas> ah the linux version of the format c: joke
[22:38] <kaiowas> :)
[22:38] <cipher__> :p
[22:38] <kaiowas> so ... uhm.. what is... irssi? :)
[22:38] <kaiowas> ill google it
[22:38] <zykotic10> cipher__: not funny in #ubuntu, for any reason
[22:38] <Chipzzz> kaiowas: i wrote a wallpaper changer in python today if you want to play with it
[22:38] <engla> cipher__: that doesn't work anyway, check the man page
[22:38] <cipher__> zykotic10, given the disclaimer, I would say it was tasteful.
[22:39] <cipher__> then what's the fuss?
[22:39] <cfhowlett> cipher__: it's always only in fun until someone does it...
[22:39] <kaiowas> chipzzz: changes it randomly?
[22:39] <cipher__> well they should probably know what rm does if they are running linux.
[22:39] <jbbarnes> My ubuntu server is in bad shape. A rebuilt can't wait until 12.04 is released. Can I install the current 12.04 build and run an update once it is officially released?
[22:40] <kaiowas> cipher__: this is day 3 with linux.. But i know what it does :)
[22:40] <cfhowlett> jbbarnes: if you're comfortable with an alpha?
[22:40] <Chipzzz> katnegermis: yeah, you put it in a directory with a bunch of jpg's and it randomly sets them as wallpapers
[22:40] <Guest42436> Go To System?
[22:40] <kaiowas> Chipzzz: sure, ill give it a go
[22:41] <jbbarnes> cfhowlett: I could install the alpha, but would I be able to upgrade it to the release version later, or am I stuck in alphaland forever?
[22:41] <cipher__> I remember someone told me to delete my grub entries first day i installed ubuntu, and reboot.
[22:41] <cipher__> that was brutal :p
[22:41] <Chipzzz> kaiowas: ok... hang on and i'll pastebin it
[22:41] <zykotic10> jbbarnes: you can update to final, once it's released.  support in #ubuntu+1 though.
[22:41] <cfhowlett> jbbarnes: pretty sure the best practices path would be a clean install...
[22:42] <DynamicFail_2> what do I need to install to fix this: make: wget: Command not found
[22:42] <test93928304> Hello all. I am trying to decide on a hypervisor to run on my Windows 7 64 bit system upon which Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit will be ran - does Ubuntu have any official guidance on which hypervisor (vmware, virtualbox, etc.) is best?
[22:42] <Guest42436> how do I Go to System > Administration > StartUp-Manager ?
[22:42] <zykotic10> DynamicFail_2: wget
[22:42] <kaiowas> meskarune: did you mean the program from irssi.org?
[22:42] <Jordan_U> DynamicFail_2: What are you actually trying to compile / install?
[22:42] <meskarune> kaiowas: its an irc client. :)
[22:42] <zykotic10> Guest42436: startup-manager is long gone in ubuntu land
[22:43] <kaiowas> I figured :)
[22:43] <DynamicFail_2> Jordan_U: I'm trying to get the uvcvideo driver installed
[22:43] <Guest42436> I just did this command sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[22:43] <meskarune> test93928304: it depends on what features you want. I like virtual box as its open source. but check out both
[22:43] <Guest42436> in term
[22:43] <kaiowas> meskarune: but i like the UI, ill give it a try.
[22:44] <DynamicFail_2> Now I'm getting: File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.35+/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 33, <IN> line 4
[22:44] <jbbarnes> zykotic10: Is #ubuntu+1 a separate channel for ubuntu server, or ubuntu alpha releases, or what?
[22:44] <test93928304> meskarune: Thank you for you reply. I don't have any specific feature needs - but just was looking to see if there was guidance on what would be the most stable.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> DynamicFail_2: Stop.
[22:44] <cfhowlett> !ubuntuu+1>jbbarnes
[22:44] <DynamicFail_2> Jordan_U: ?
[22:44] <Chipzzz> kaiowas: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/841038/
[22:44] <zykotic10> jbbarnes: it's for alpha/beta stuff, server has a different channel
[22:45] <kaiowas> Chipzzz: thank you
[22:45] <Jordan_U> DynamicFail_2: Compiling from source is probably not the best way to get uvcvideo, and you may already have it (and compiling a kernel module from source could easily hose your system).
[22:46] <DynamicFail_2> Jordan_U: I need uvcvideo, i don't have it currently
[22:46] <Guest42436> how would I do step 4 Go to System > Administration > StartUp-Manager?
[22:46] <Chipzzz> kaiowas: enjoy :-)
[22:46] <zykotic10> Jordan_U: be aware that DynamicFail_2 is using a custom kernel already
[22:46] <DynamicFail_2> Jordan_U: trying to follow: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[22:47] <Jordan_U> DynamicFail_2: Why are you using a custom kernel? (if zykotic10 is correct)
[22:47] <cipher__> If an icon set is properly setup, can I just decompress it to /usr/share/icons?
[22:47] <DynamicFail_2> Jordan_U: because I'm i'm using it on an embeded gumstix computer
[22:48] <zykotic10> Jordan_U: DynamicFail_2 has already stated that on another install (with default kernel) whatever they want works
[22:48] <Jordan_U> DynamicFail_2: The uvcvideo module is included by default in Ubuntu 11.10, and probably earlier. We can't really support custom kernels here.
[22:48] <DynamicFail_2> I have a webcam that I'm trying to connect up to it. It worrks on my ubuntu laptop and shows up as /dev/video0, however on my gumstix it shows up /dev/usbdev2.X
[22:48] <DynamicFail_2> Using 10.04
[22:49] <DynamicFail_2> both running 10.04
[22:49] <DynamicFail_2> I plan on using the device with vlc to stream my webcam out the network
[22:50] <DynamicFail_2> obviously since I don't have a desktop enviornment i will use cvlc (headless), but until I can get my cam to show up as /dev/video0 no luck
[22:50] <DynamicFail_2> been working on it for 5 hours... given I don't know very much about this kind of stuff
[22:52] <cryptodira> fglrx driver install.... Fails!  amd/64 10.10 re-install after failed auto upgrade to 11.04.... solution?
[22:53] <meskarune> cryptodira: you are trying to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 or you reinstalled ?
[22:53] <CoasterMaster> is there a room for support of mkisofs?
[22:54] <cryptodira> meskarune,  trying to get 10.10 working again....
[22:54] <Jordan_U> CoasterMaster: What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:54] <CoasterMaster> Jordan_U: curious if it will properly do dual layer discs (especially ones that require padding in order for there to be a valid layer break)
[22:55] <sweetie_> hi e]vereyone.
[22:55] <sweetie_> i have some DVD movies. what program do you recommend to copy them to my hard drive so that i can watch the movie without the disc? I want subtitle support and ease of copying
[22:55] <sweetie_> thanks
[22:56] <OerHeks> sweetie_, make an iso, and mount it, and play :-)
[22:57] <sweetie_> oehoeks
[22:57] <sweetie_> OerHeks: do i need a program to make an iso?
[22:57] <OerHeks> sweetie_, brasero can do that, or K3B
[22:57] <sweetie_> OerHeks: if i don't need a program/application to make an ISO, how do i make an iso?
[22:57] <log> SwedeMike: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[22:57] <log> er
[22:57] <sweetie_> ok
[22:57] <log> sweetie_: &
[22:57] <log> Sorry SwedeMike. :P
[22:58] <kaiowas> Is there a fast way to install GLIB in Ubuntu?
[22:58] <meskarune> cryptodira: so what exactelly happened to break your system? :)
[22:58] <kaiowas> in fast i mean... automatic?
[22:58] <sweetie_> log: OerHeks i have Brasero on my compturer
[22:58] <sweetie_> which do i choose: make data project?  make video project? Disc copy? Burn image?
[22:58] <LjL> kaiowas: libraries get installed automatically when you install programs that need them.
[22:59] <sweetie_> OerHeks: log : pls read above
[22:59] <jrib> kaiowas: glib is probably installed by default
[22:59] <LjL> kaiowas: if you need to install it manually for some reason, though, you can use apt-get just like normal.
[22:59] <EtgarDizz> hi all!
[22:59] <sweetie_> log: OerHeks so i don't need dvd::rip or something like that?
[22:59] <OerHeks> sweetie_, disc copy, and save it somewhere like ~/Video
[22:59] <OerHeks> sweetie_, or follow the url from log
[22:59] <zykotic10> jrib: s/probably//
[22:59] <kaiowas> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.6.0... no
[22:59] <jrib> kaiowas: what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:00] <kaiowas> installing irssi.. :P
[23:00] <jrib> kaiowas: then see LjL's advice: irssi is in the repositories :)
[23:00] <kaiowas> i did a ./configure
[23:00] <sweetie_> OerHeks, log : I'm on the link, but there's no mention of brasero
[23:00] <meskarune> sweetie_: I would use handbreak to rip teh video to mkv (it has great subtitle support) iso files are huge so its better to rip to mkv or avi
[23:00] <jrib> kaiowas: you know how to use apt-get?
[23:00] <kaiowas> I will after i google it
[23:00] <EtgarDizz> I've been searching for a solution and can't find one - I want a mount point to appear in "Computer", but not on the desktop
[23:00] <jrib> !software > kaiowas
[23:00] <LjL> kaiowas: i have no idea why you're trying to compile irssi from source, but if you're set on doing that, then you need the dev package for the library, not just the library. in this specific case, the package is libglib2.0-dev
[23:01] <sweetie_> meskarune: but i want subtitle support AND all the extra scenes on the DVD
[23:01] <Timmy> hi,where can i get download additional applications of ubuntu on a disc? im not on a fast connection and i need them to be on a disc, like additional discs of debian
[23:01] <LjL> kaiowas: "sudo apt-get install irssi" will get irssi installed with no need for doing any of that.
[23:01] <kaiowas> Thank you
[23:01] <meskarune> sweetie_: you can rip the extra scenes to avi files as well. and handbrake has support for adding subtitles. read a tutorial on handbrake. unless you have a million gigs of space to waste on your computer. :P
[23:01] <kaiowas> And i dont know either why i do it, im just fooling around
[23:01] <sweetie_> meskarune: if i rip DVD, that means I just get the movie without the extras, right?
[23:02] <zykotic10> Timmy: ubuntu doesn't have that option really.  You could use aptoncd if you can download from another ubuntu machine.
[23:02] <sweetie_> meskarune: i have 71.7 GB free
[23:02] <EtgarDizz> anyone have any idea how to do this?
[23:02] <cryptodira> aticonfig --initial=check reports: No fglrx section .... yet, synaptic shows fglrx as installed....however the driver cannot be activated.... amd/64 10.10
[23:02] <meskarune> sweetie_: no. you can rip all the video from the dvd to avi or mkv files and watch them. you won't have teh dvd menu though.
[23:02] <meskarune> sweetie_: so you can rip all the extras you want.
[23:02] <Timmy> zykotic10: what's that?
[23:02] <sweetie_> and I want to copy 20 DVDs for just a few days
[23:02] <zykotic10> Timmy: it creates a cd from teh installed programs on the other computer
[23:02] <sweetie_> meskarune: will i have the subtitel support, though?
[23:02] <meskarune> sweetie_: you NEED to rip to video files then. otherwise you'll use up all your disk space. one DVD = 8 GB
[23:03] <Timmy> that's good zykotic10
[23:03] <meskarune> sweetie_: yeah, look up a handbreak tutorial to learn how to rip dvd's with subtitles to mkv formate
[23:03] <EtgarDizz> anyone know how to make a mount point appear in "Computer" (nautilus), but not on desktop?...
[23:03] <meskarune> sweetie_: you will need dvd css drivers to rip dvd's with security on them
[23:04] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: edit your fstab its in /etc/fstab
[23:04] <zykotic10> sweetie_: if you really want the whole dvd you could use something like "cat /dev/dvd > Movie.iso" then play that ISO (includes everything)
[23:05] <meskarune> zykotic10: he only has 70 GB and wants to rip 20 dvds. so saving the iso files won't work. :P
[23:05] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: I've tried this, my mount are in listed there. they are in /mnt (not in /media) and don't appear in "Computer". any idea how to put them there?
[23:05] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: change your mount point in fstab
[23:05] <alex13231> hello
[23:06] <zykotic10> EtgarDizz: i don't think anything mounted from fstab will show up in nautilus' computer/desktop/etc.
[23:06] <sweetie_> OerHeks, log  zykotic10, meskarune: Thank you 4!
[23:06] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: change it to what? currently it's /dev/sda4  /mnt/part1
[23:06] <sweetie_> bye for now
[23:06] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: /dev/sda4 /media/part1
[23:06] <alex13231> could someone give me a link for an ubuntu with kernel 3.2 plss
[23:06] <alex13231> pls
[23:06] <EtgarDizz> zykotic10: I know that if I mount something in fstab under /media, it will show up in BOTH desktop and Computer
[23:06] <meskarune> alex13231: why do you need the 3.2 kernel?  is there a real reason for you to need it?
[23:06] <danileigh79> anybody know if there is an app to open up facebook in terminal? acebook doesn't work n elinks or links2
[23:06] <alex13231> yes
[23:07] <zykotic10> EtgarDizz: i don't "think" it will show up anyway you do it.
[23:07] <alex13231> because that kernel has a fixed bug
[23:07] <alex13231> that the previous wasn't fixed
[23:07] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: if I do that, the mount appears on desktop also.. I want it to be only in "Computer"
[23:07] <alex13231> it is the bug the llano cpus
[23:07] <meskarune> alex13231: then you should install debian testing. ubuntu currently doesn't have the 3.2 kenel. or try out arch linux
[23:08] <yvj> hey i have ubuntu 11.10 and want to install HUD.. can anyone tell me how to go about it?
[23:08] <alex13231> arch linux doesn't have a gui...
[23:08] <alex13231> at install
[23:08] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: then change your desktop icon settings so its not on teh desktop
[23:08] <zykotic10> alex13231: don't install Debian Testing, it's not for general consumption
[23:08] <alex13231> it is hard to install..
[23:08] <alex13231> ok
[23:08] <meskarune> alex13231: yeah, but you can install your own GUI, just follow the wiki
[23:08] <log> alex13231: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2 has the 3.2 kernel.
[23:08] <alex13231> ohhh
[23:08] <meskarune> alex13231: or try out linux mint debian edition
[23:09] <meskarune> alex13231: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide
[23:09] <alex13231> is ubuntu 12.04 an alpha rc?
[23:09] <meskarune> alex13231: I"m running the 3.2 kernel right now with fluxbox. but you can install gnome or kde or anything else too
[23:09] <EtgarDizz> meskarune, zykotic10: the point is I want to keep the functionality for USBs etc - when I plug them in, they automatically mount to /media and show up BOTH desktop and Computer. but for my partisions, I want them to be ONLY in Computer - that's why I didn't mount them in /media... any ideas how to do this???
[23:09] <alex13231> im on windows right now
[23:10] <meskarune> alex13231: don't use ubuntu alpha unless you want to deal with bugs. :P
[23:10] <alex13231> ok...
[23:10] <zykotic10> EtgarDizz: i'm no help.  good luck.
[23:10] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: mount them in another place, like your user's home folder. /home/username/media
[23:10] <alex13231> so how im gonna get iso with kernel 3.2 preinstalled?
[23:10] <alex13231> is this possible?
[23:11] <meskarune> alex13231: you have to install debian testing or arch linux. you can't do it in ubuntu
[23:11] <alex13231> ok
[23:11] <meskarune> alex13231: look up linux mint debian
[23:11] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: if I mount a partition in /home/username/media, it will show up in Computer?
[23:11] <zykotic10> alex13231: LMDE is very buggy, with a super small development community, and even smaller support options (but do what you want)
[23:11] <EtgarDizz> and not show up on desktop?
[23:12] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: after mounting in your user's home, do a system link to /computer
[23:12] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: after you system link, it will show up in computer
[23:12] <alex13231> i want a OS that i can escape from windows
[23:12] <alex13231> i want to leave back windows
[23:12] <Guest62468> this is just a sham as well
[23:12] <meskarune> alex13231: look into rolling release linux OS
[23:13] <alex13231> the only game that i play those days is LoL
[23:13] <Lint> alex13231, is kernel 3.2. a necessary condition for escaping windows?
[23:13] <alex13231> yes
[23:13] <meskarune> lint: he has hardware issues that the new kernel fixes
[23:13] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: sorry - what is /computer?
[23:13] <urullika> hola
[23:13] <meskarune> alex13231: rolling release lets you have better support for new software
[23:13] <meskarune> EtgarDizz: you are the one who keeps refering to a directory named computer. :P
[23:13] <meskarune> alex13231: I mean new hardware
[23:14] <Lint> at the price of 700MB updates each two weeks
[23:14] <meskarune> anwyays, I got to go. getting off work.
[23:14] <meskarune> bai
[23:14] <Lint> meskarune, he means computer://
[23:14] <EtgarDizz> meskarune: miscommunication :) I mean "Computer" in mautilus (computer:///)
[23:14] <zykotic10> alex13231: not to mention, rolling releases mean untested/buggy software
[23:15] <meskarune> zykotic10: no, it means its rolling release. in arch linux they have a stable and testing version. both are rolling release
[23:15] <meskarune> zykotic10: its the same for debian
[23:15] <zykotic10> meskarune: not to mention, rolling releases mean untested/buggy software
[23:15] <meskarune> NO it doesn't
[23:15] <EDG> EDG
[23:15] <meskarune> you have obviously not used a rolling release distribution before zykotic10
[23:16] <zykotic10> meskarune: actually, i ran gentoo for years.  with untested/buggy software </OT>
[23:16] <nate_h> is there a quick method for creating my own deb package repo?
[23:16] <meskarune> rolling release is just an update model. thats it.
[23:16] <meskarune> zykotic10: gentoo is not arch linux or debian
[23:16] <MoleMan> What is the best command to copy a large amount of data AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOT MODIFY PERMISSIONS/OWNERS? rsync, cpio or standard cp -p
[23:16] <zykotic10> !checkinstall | nate_h
[23:16] <meskarune> MoleMan: I'd use rsync
[23:16] <zykotic10> nate_h: that's does NOT create DEBs you should be distributing though
[23:16] <meskarune> anwyays, I got to go. see ya'll
[23:17] <Lint> zykotic10, I doubt he meant this
[23:17] <EDG> Just trying this out, I'm rather new to this.
[23:17] <nate_h> no no, i have debs already
[23:17] <Lint> zykotic10, he wants loccal mirror
[23:17] <nate_h> i just need to generate the metadata for the files
[23:17] <nate_h> ie gem has gem generate_index ,etc
[23:18] <zykotic10> nate_h: oh sorry you might want to check out apt-cacher (or apt-cacher-ng) for a local mirror (if you have multiple machines/VMs)
[23:18] <EtgarDizz> meskarune, Lint, any ideas on how to do this?
[23:18] <MoleMan> meskarune: will rsync definately not modify the owners etc? I've just moved my entire system to an LVM and booted it to find everything is owned by root... not happy :(
[23:18] <nate_h> just need to create a new repo to test some debs
[23:18] <nate_h> i guess dpkg-scanpackages
[23:19] <log> alex13231: I've been using 12.04, and it's really not that buggy. If you really need 3.2, then I'd say to go for it.
[23:19] <zykotic10> MoleMan: "man rsync" i believe you need a "-a" switch
[23:19] <alex13231> Would LoL rune fine with the alpha rc?
[23:19] <alex13231> run*
[23:19] <log> alex13231: No idea.
[23:19] <alex13231> k
[23:23] <craigbass1976> Can someone yell at me?  I'm seeing if tint2 makes xchat light up on the taskbar
[23:23] <MoleMan> craigbass1976: LIKE THIS?
[23:24] <craigbass1976> MoleMan, Awww,  I'd just come back to check.  Do it again in a couple seconds.
[23:24] <MoleMan> craigbass1976: LIKE THIS?
[23:24] <craigbass1976> MoleMan, Yes.  YAY!
[23:25] <X-tonic> How do I turn my ubuntu machine into a SOCKS5 proxy?
[23:25] <X-tonic> or should I use ubuntu-server for this
[23:25] <MoleMan> craigbass1976: :) You're welcome... although thats how I felt this afternoon when I got my system to boot from LVM, although I then found a massive issue... I hope you have better luck :)
[23:25] <craigbass1976> MoleMan, I've been giving GNOME3 a whirl since before Christmas (in Fedora) and Unity since last week (a Precise build) and I just can't deal with no taskbar.  One annoyance was when someone asked me a question or responded, I'd never know until I wen tback
[23:26] <afd> hi guys
[23:26] <afd> transmission is giving me a File name too long error and I can't shorten the filename and choosing not to download that file as part of the torrent spits out the same error and stops any other file in the torrent downloading... any ideas?
[23:27] <AbDeL> .
[23:27] <MoleMan> afd: #transmission
[23:28] <afd> MoleMan: thanks ;)
[23:28] <zykotic10> afd: are you downloading to a FAT/NTFS partition?
[23:29]  * MoleMan Facepalm. #Realises he has just given himself a several hour delay in getting his system running again#
[23:30] <RoboTeddy> if I need a newer version of libcairo-dev than is provided by lucid, should I use apt pinning or go for a non-LTS release?
[23:32] <cipher__> speaking of cario..
[23:32] <cipher__> I am running xcompmgr with cairo-dock, xcomp is drawing shadows around cairo, and i cannot click in the shaded region? http://i39.tinypic.com/2e3omzl.png
[23:32] <R33p3r> heo
[23:33] <milothebuthar> E: Unable to locate package skype
[23:33] <milothebuthar>  !!! Why?!?!
[23:33] <cipher__> milothebuthar, just download the .deb file from skype's site. then double click to install
[23:33] <cfhowlett> milothebuthar: check your software sources repo settings
[23:38] <ariel__> does anybody know why banshee isnt nameing my albums
[23:39] <_skpl> ariel__, no
[23:41] <ariel__> is it reading your albums properly
[23:41] <_skpl> ariel__, i dont use banshee
[23:41] <_skpl> i dunno why.
[23:41] <ariel__> so you use rythymbox?
[23:43] <Canadian1296> I can't change the motd because it defaults back at the next login. How do I make it perminant?
[23:46] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: it appears motd.tail is copied over motd, perhaps try edit that file instead
[23:46] <Canadian1296> zykotic10: There is no motd.tail in /etc
[23:47] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: humm, in that case, just disregard my statement above ;)
[23:47] <Canadian1296> zykotic10: So how can I do it then?
[23:47] <Chipzzz> Canadian1296: Canadian1296 I think it actually does a "tail /etc/motd"
[23:48] <zykotic10> Chipzzz: no i did mean motd.tail, it's present on debian and older ubuntus
[23:48] <Canadian1296> Chipzzz zykotic10: It is motd.tail on older distro's of Ubuntu, but  am on 11.10. Any ideas?
[23:48] <Chipzzz> zykotic10: where is it?
[23:48] <trism> Canadian1296: the motd is updated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[23:48] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: nope sorry
[23:49] <Canadian1296> trism: Okay I'll take a look
[23:49] <trism> Canadian1296: you can always add /etc/motd.tail if you want it (I'm not sure what you are trying to do) 99-footer adds it
[23:49] <WhiteEye> Hiiii fellows!
[23:49] <WhiteEye> I got a question about ssh. some one here who can answear ?
[23:50] <Canadian1296> WhiteEye: Ask away
[23:50] <Canadian1296> trism: I found the scripts, so I'll let you know what I find. Thanks :)
[23:50] <EvilResistance> !ask | WhiteEye
[23:50] <Sensiva> Hello, Is it safe to install wordpress from zip rather than from repos?
[23:51] <WhiteEye> I need to generate an ssh key and stick id_dsa and id_dsa.pub in resources/ but I already have generated an ssh key for my backtrack ubuntu linux op
[23:51] <Chipzzz> Sensiva: probably safer
[23:51] <Canadian1296> Sensiva: If you get the zip (i think its a tar archive actually) then yes
[23:51] <zykotic10> Sensiva: be aware you'd have to manually track any security update with wordpress if you manually install
[23:51] <Riccardo> salve a tutti
[23:51] <Canadian1296> Sensiva Chipzzz: I agree. Probably safer from an archive
[23:51] <zykotic10> !it | Riccardo
[23:52] <Sensiva> Now I am confused, which is safer? official release or the repos release?
[23:53] <Chipzzz> whichever is newer & has the latest security patches
[23:53] <cipher__>   Sensiva official
[23:53] <Canadian1296> WhiteEye: What are you trying to do exactly? To ssh into the box just use "ssh user@ipaddress"
[23:53] <Sensiva> zykotic10 do you mean automatical updateS?
[23:53] <cipher__> Couldn't the newer ones potentially have more overlooked bugs?
[23:53] <zykotic10> Sensiva: i recommend you use the ubuntu repo version, but do whatever you want.
[23:54] <Canadian1296> Sensiva: The archive from Wordpress.org is safest. But there is nothing wrong with using a repo, and it's a lot easier to update
[23:54] <WhiteEye> Canadian1296: No, I need to put thoose two "keys" into a folder
[23:54] <Chipzzz> cipher__: with any luck, they eliminate bugs as they go along ;-)
[23:54] <Riccardo> !list
[23:54] <Sensiva> Canadian1296 how is this true? isn't ubuntu repos continuously patched for security?
[23:55] <zykotic10> Sensiva: yes it is
[23:55] <Canadian1296> WhiteEye: Ubuntu should generate any nessesary keys the first time you ssh in. Are you doing anything out of the ordinary?
[23:55] <Sensiva> now he is saying the official release from wordpress.org is safest :D
[23:55] <Canadian1296> Sensiva: Yes it is. Go with the repo. It's your best bet cause you can update with your package manager.
[23:55] <zykotic10> Sensiva: yes it is (re: isn't ubuntu repos continuously patched for security)
[23:56] <din> i have mistakenly upgraded to nfs 4. is it possible to downgrade to nfs version 3?
[23:56] <WhiteEye> Canadian1296: yes. im editing a script so it fits my settings and I need to generate thoose keys and put them in the folder
[23:56] <Sensiva> Thank you all
[23:56] <Canadian1296> Sensiva: I am saying the archive is probably safest, but there is nothing wrong with the repo. Use the repo.
[23:57] <Sensiva> Canadian1296 the repo version is old, and the skin I like needs 3.2+ while the version in the repos is 2.9.2 for lucid and 3.0.2 for oneiric
[23:57] <Canadian1296> WhiteEye: Are you having trouble generating the keys, or getting them in the folder?
[23:57] <Canadian1296> Sensiva: Then use the tar archive from wordpress.org
[23:57] <WhiteEye> well. I`d say both. hehe
[23:58] <WhiteEye> I thought I could use sshd:generate
[23:58] <WhiteEye> or something
[23:58] <Aelingil> What is the terminal command to view what video drivers are currently being used? i've managed to lose my cheat sheet. :(
[23:58] <Chipzzz> Aelingil: lsmod