[00:01] <pangolin> kick me you fools
[01:48] <FeyMood> I'm trying to launch all 3 of my startup programs in different screen windows of the SAME screen session. Is there a way to do that?
[02:57] <xubuntu161> hola como entro a la sala en español???
[03:04] <Unit193> !es | xubuntu161
[03:09] <xubuntu161> gracias
[07:08] <ktwo> hi, how can i quickly switch between two keyboard layouts in default xubuntu ? (also where to setup it?)
[07:20] <laite> ktwo: you can set keyboard layouts in 'Settings Manager'->keyboard
[07:21] <ktwo> okay, thanks, how can i quickly switch and why is therre no icon with the languages in the tray?
[07:21] <laite> you can find xfce4-xkb-plugin in synaptic package manager, install it and you should be able to add it to your desktop panel (right click panel, add new items)
[07:22] <laite> it's a bit strange it's not installed by default
[07:22] <ktwo> okay, thanks ill try
[10:36] <Kingsy> how do you go about setting a static ip address in ubuntu? I have read various different methods some say to edit 1 file.. others say more.. what is the actual accepted way of doing it?
[10:53] <krasnozer> how do I disable the notifications bubbles ?
[10:56] <P-J> Hi all. Just wondered if someone could help me. I'm experiencing a lot of horizontal tearing in XFCE when moving windows around and watching videos in VLC. I'm using the official nVidia drivers with twinview. The monitors are running at 60hz but I've read in places that it might be because Linux or XFCE is expecting them to be 50hz, or at least is running at 50hz. Does anyone have any advice
[10:56] <P-J> on how to solve this? Cheers.
[10:57] <P-J> The monitors themselves report that they're running at 60hz, so I can be sure of that at least.
[15:56] <drc> Couple of quick questions: First, Has the Boot-> Open Thunar-> Wait 30 sec-1 min until Thunar shows up on the desktop problem been fixed?  Second, When I use the mute button on my laptop, things mute but when I unmute the "bubble" show unmute, but the panel icon does not (there is no sound either) (This started with the 11.04->11.10 upgrade, I "think it is pulseaudio related).  Has this been fixed?
[16:00] <mongy> drc: not sure about the sound thing, have you set the mixer to use pulse and what channels ?  as for thunar, remove gvfs-backends
[16:02] <drc> mongy: To be honest, I'm not using Xubuntu (now, anymore...because of these issues) I was thinking about trying Xubuntu again, but as I have only one machine (and hate dual boots), I was asking before I installed.
[16:03] <drc> To answer the question, I'm not sure, stock install, no mods made to anything audio.
[16:04] <drc> And I take the "remove gcfs-backends" to be a no?
[16:21] <drc> ok...thanks...maybe I'll look at 12.04 when it comes out.
[16:52] <mongy> drc, sorry had to pop out.
[17:47] <braha> does anybody have any suggestions for adding resolution options for a netbook? the bottom of a lot of my windows get cut off because I c an not see the whole field at the resolution setting I have
[17:58] <craigbass1976> I've got a script called launch-thunderbird that contains ssh -Y me@localhost thunderbird .  I used to (prior to a hard drive crapping out this weekend) have an icon that would launch this, pop up a GUI box asking for a password, and off I'd go.  Not so much any more.  I get a terminal popping up for a password instead.  If I uncheck "Run in Terminal" then the script doesn't work.
[18:15] <craigbass1976> Anyone?
[18:16] <baizon> yes?
[18:16] <baizon> you need to enter a password
[18:16] <Industrial_> Is it possible to make a PC multi boot and install linux from within a running windows install? I don't mean something embedded like WUBI though I guess that would be my last option.
[18:17] <Industrial_> I'm on a netbook, do have internet, but no USB stick (and ofcourse no DVD drive)
[18:17] <TheSheep> Industrial_: you can run linux in a virtual machine on windows
[18:17] <craigbass1976> baizon, I want it to pop up in an x window though, not a terminal
[18:18] <TheSheep> Industrial_: although doing that on a netbook wouldn't be too good
[18:18] <Industrial_> TheSheep: netbooks are way too slow to pull a VM (eg VirtualBox) desktop
[18:18] <Industrial_> yea
[18:19] <TheSheep> maybe take a look at this page
[18:19] <TheSheep> !install
[18:19] <baizon> craigbass1976: now i think i understand
[18:19] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: there is a package that makes ssh use gui popups for passwords
[18:19] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: but I forgot how it was called
[18:20] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, or...  I backed up my profile, but I don't know where panel settings are stored.
[18:20] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: panel settings? why?
[18:21] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: here it is: ssh-askpass-gnome
[18:21] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, no, I mean where is it stored in /home/me/  I grabbed my home directory off the bunk drive before I swapped it out
[18:22] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, but the askpass app works.  Thanks.  I think I'll comment the scripts this time...
[18:23] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: you could also use ssh keys for auth, then you don't need any passwords
[18:25] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, no, I want password.  This must have been how I was doing it before.
[19:28] <dafox> hi all. Could anyone please tell me how to disable the screensaver lock on resume from suspend and hibernation?
[19:29] <dafox> I've basically tried everything in the last post on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/871560 , but like that person nothing seems to work
[19:29] <dafox> aha, so there really is no way?
[19:44] <mang0> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 11.10 system. I installed xfce a few weeks back, and then yesterday decided to remove gnome/unity completely, which I did by copying the command listed on the url given by !purexfce. However, I can no longer access my system. When I boot up, I go past BIOS, past Grub, and then I see the xfce loading/splash screen for a sec, and then i just have a blank...
[19:44] <mang0> ...screen. I'm wondering if by removing the gnome/unity stuff, I accidentally screwed up X11, or perhaps my graphics drivers? Wit a lot of fiddling, I can get into TTY; I had to choose "Old linux versions" in grub, and then recovery console for ubuntu with 2.x.x kernel, rather than my normal 3.x.x. What can I do? Please help, my computer is unusable.
[19:45] <holstein> not sure... you can always just put it back to test.. i usually just install xubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <TheSheep> mang0: if you press alt+ctrl+f1 when you see the loading screen, you should get a text terminal
[19:46] <TheSheep> mang0: you need to check the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsessionerrors
[19:46] <TheSheep> mang0: they will tell you what is wrong
[19:47] <TheSheep> mang0: you can also try doing 'startxfce'
[19:47] <mang0> holstein: Already done sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:47] <mang0> TheSheep: Like I said, i can get into TTy (which is what it's called when you do ctrl+alt+f1)
[19:48] <TheSheep> mang0: look at the log files then
[19:48] <TheSheep> mang0: you can do it with: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:48] <TheSheep> (press 'q' to quit)
[19:49] <mang0> TheSheep: I'll have a look, ty. Brb, let me get back upstairs to my desktop, I'll be back ina mo
[19:55] <mang0> TheSheep: It's empty?
[19:56] <mang0> brb dinner
[19:56] <holstein> i had xubuntu installed... installed lubuntu-desktop, then removed lubuntu-desktop... had the same black screen... i decided to just install lubuntu-desktop back and look into it later... and still havent
[19:56] <mang0> :/
[20:04] <TheSheep> mang0: how about the Xorg.1.log?
[20:13] <mang0> TheSheep: Lemme check, 1s
[20:13] <xubuntu291> thanks for your works !!!
[20:13] <TheSheep> also check .2, .3 etc. if there are any
[20:14] <mang0> Sure
[20:15] <mang0> TheSheep: Aha! Xorg.2.log exists. What am I looking for?
[20:16] <TheSheep> mang0: look for EEE
[20:16] <TheSheep> or EE
[20:16] <TheSheep> you can search in less with /
[20:16] <TheSheep> just type /EE and press enter
[20:16] <mang0> k, ty
[20:16] <TheSheep> you jump to the next item with 'n'
[20:18] <TheSheep> !hi | xubuntu241
[20:21] <mang0> TheSheep: EEE doesn't exist, all the EEs are in the words "scrEEn"
[20:23] <TheSheep> :/
[20:23] <mang0> :(
[20:23] <TheSheep> mang0: perhaps it's the lightdm that fails to start
[20:23] <TheSheep> what happens if you try to start xfce with startxfce4 ?
[20:23] <mang0> Let me see...
[20:24] <TheSheep> there is also lightdm log at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[20:24] <TheSheep> and two other files in that directory
[20:28] <seryth> TheSheep: Hey, I'm mang0
[20:28] <seryth> Running from irssi now, in TTY
[20:30] <seryth> TheSheep: I rebooted, opened grub with SHIFT after BIOS, and then went to Old Linux Versions > Ubuntu linux with the old 2.x.x kernel, rather than the 3.x.x kernel. It sticks on starting lightdm, shall I try sudo apt-get install lightdm? Or do you want to see my newest err log, in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? I can pastebinit....
[20:45] <seryth> TheSheep: ?
[20:51] <seryth> :(
[20:59] <TheSheep> seryth: try installing unity-greeter
[20:59] <TheSheep> seryth: and lightdm-gtk-greeter
[20:59] <TheSheep> seryth: sorry, was afk
[20:59] <seryth> Np
[21:00] <seryth> TheSheep: New updates: When I run "startxfce4" it tells me that the module nvidia_173_updates can't be found.
[21:01] <seryth> TheSheep: And just tried to install them, it says they're already both installed and newest versions. Going to use --reinstall now
[21:01] <TheSheep> seryth: I think that they are just installed for newer kernel
[21:02] <seryth> Hm, I see
[21:02] <seryth> TheSheep: I still think I should install the stuff for nvidia_173_updates....but how can I do that from terminal?
[21:03] <TheSheep> seryth: better try just installing those greeters
[21:04] <TheSheep> seryth: and booting with your newest kernel
[21:04] <TheSheep> seryth: see if that fixes it
[21:04] <TheSheep> seryth: one thing at a time
[21:04] <seryth> TheSheep: Sure, fair enough. Okay, well I did sudo apt-get --reinstall install unity-greeter lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:08] <seryth> TheSheep: It's strange that it says they're already installed, is it not?
[21:09] <TheSheep> seryth: I'm kinda shooting in the dark
[21:10] <TheSheep> seryth: does the lightdm log in /var/.log say anything comprehensible?
[21:10] <seryth> lemme se
[21:13] <seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840924
[21:13] <seryth> TheSheep: ^ that's my lightdm err log
[21:16] <TheSheep> hmm, it says that X failed to start
[21:16] <seryth> :/
[21:16] <TheSheep> but you say there are no errors in the xorg log
[21:16] <seryth> I said the xorg.0.log was empty, but xorg.1.log was not
[21:16] <seryth> shall I upload it? What's it path? >.>
[21:16] <TheSheep> do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[21:17] <seryth> Yes
[21:18] <TheSheep> seryth: can you move it out of the way and see if it works then?
[21:18] <TheSheep> seryth: do 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old'
[21:18] <seryth> sure
[21:21] <seryth> TheSheep: Same error as before, missing nvidia kernel module...
[21:21] <Seryth> silly capitals.
[21:22] <TheSheep> strange, it shouldn't try the nvidia drivers without xorg.conf
[21:22] <TheSheep> Seryth: what if you uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[21:23] <TheSheep> Seryth: with apt-get remove 'nvidia-.*'
[21:23] <Seryth> k
[21:24] <Seryth> TheSheep: It's removing xubuntu desktop along with it O.o
[21:26] <TheSheep> Seryth: that's just a meta package
[21:26] <Seryth> TheSheep: Omg, you legend! It's working!
[21:26] <TheSheep> Seryth: is it removing anything else?
[21:26] <TheSheep> phew
[21:26] <Seryth> It finished, and I ran "startxfce4"
[21:27] <TheSheep> ok, now boot to your normal kernel
[21:27] <Seryth> and now...aaahhhhh *deep happy sigh*
[21:27] <TheSheep> and install the nvidia drivers back with system->drivers
[21:27] <Seryth> man, irssi is actually nicer than xchat
[21:27] <TheSheep> it is
[21:27] <baizon> not!
[21:27] <Seryth> Lol :P
[21:27] <baizon> xchat is the best! :P
[21:27] <Seryth> I have both, so meh :P
[21:27] <baizon> i like xchat more
[21:28] <TheSheep> baizon: thanks for constructive argumentation, now back to the matter at hand
[21:28] <baizon> :D
[21:28] <Seryth> TheSheep: So, you say boot back into the normal kernel, and re-install the drivers?
[21:28] <TheSheep> Seryth: yeah
[21:29] <Seryth> Right. Well, brb I suppose! Cross your fingers >.<
[21:29] <Seryth> I'll be back ina sec.
[21:34] <Seryth> I'm back
[21:34] <Seryth> Interestingly, the kernel booted okay, but it seems like xfce didn't. I can access TTY and all that, but on the X server (Ctrl + Alt + F7) I just see black.
[21:34] <Seryth> TheSheep: Shall I "startxfce" from another TTY?
[21:35] <Seryth> XartaoX: :O wth are you here?! :D
[21:35] <Seryth> <--- mang0
[21:40] <TheSheep> Seryth: sure, try it
[21:49] <Seryth> TheSheep: Hmm, I'm getting an error on "startx" telling me that x is already running, and the same for "startxfce4"
[21:49] <Seryth> TheSheep: I could killall xfce, and try again?
[21:51] <TheSheep> Seryth: try: sudo service lightdm stop
[21:51] <Seryth> TheSheep: Okay, trying now
[21:52] <Seryth> TheSheep: Done, now what?
[21:53] <Seryth> TheSheep: Now when I switch to the X11 server (Ctrl + Alt + F7) I just see stuff saying that apache2 server is running, etc etc
[21:55] <TheSheep> Seryth: now do startxfce4
[21:56] <Seryth> Okay.
[21:57] <Seryth> TheSheep: Aha! It works :)
[21:57] <Seryth> TheSheep: But would I have to do taht every boot? :(
[21:58] <xubuntu375> Hello
[21:58] <xubuntu375> i'm installing right now xubuntu on my netbook
[21:58] <xubuntu375> the installer is amazing
[21:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu375: awesome
[21:58] <TheSheep> Seryth: of course not
[21:58] <TheSheep> Seryth: install the drivers
[21:59] <Krasus> hey, one question is it possilbe to use gparted from live usb stick ? I mean I don t want to install (x)ubuntu but I just want to change my partitions and then quit
[21:59] <Seryth> TheSheep: Which ones? I can only see....wait, let me just switch to the X server and IRC there. 2s...
[21:59] <TheSheep> Krasus: yes
[22:00] <Krasus> Thx TheSheep
[22:00] <Seryth> TheSheep: I'm back
[22:00] <TheSheep> Seryth: go to system->hardware drivers
[22:01] <Seryth> TheSheep: Doesn't exist. Is it not Settings > Additional Drivers?
[22:01] <TheSheep> Seryth: possible, it was renamed several times :)
[22:01] <TheSheep> Seryth: on different versions of ubuntu
[22:02] <Seryth> TheSheep: I see. This is my Additional Drivers dilogue: http://mang0.zapto.org/AdditionalDrivers.png
[22:02] <Seryth> TheSheep: Which one do I want?
[22:02] <TheSheep> Seryth: by the way, what does 'lspci | grep VGA' say?
[22:03] <Seryth> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[22:03] <Seryth> nVidia GeForce FX5200 is my GFX card...
[22:03] <TheSheep> see if any of those drivers mentions it...
[22:04] <Seryth> "GPUs ranging from GeForce series 5 to GeForce series 9 are supported."
[22:04] <Seryth> Insatll that one?
[22:04] <Seryth> install*
[22:05] <TheSheep> Seryth: try it, in the worst case you will uninstall it again
[22:05] <Seryth> TheSheep: There are two versions of that one ^, one says nvidia_173_updates and one is just nvidia_173, so I'll go for the one with _updates?
[22:06] <TheSheep> I guess
[22:06] <TheSheep> I really don't know, you have to try
[22:06] <Seryth> Downloading and installing now.
[22:07] <Seryth> TheSheep: Thanks so much for all your help, I would'nt have been able to do any of this without you!
[22:09] <TheSheep> Seryth: don't thank yet, lets see if we can get it fixed
[22:09] <Seryth> wouldn't*
[22:09] <Seryth> Heh, okay
[22:09]  * Seryth steals back all of the thanks
[22:09] <Seryth> Restart required
[22:09] <Seryth> Let's hope this works! I'll be back before you can see Supercallafragerlisticexpeallydocious!
[22:17]  * Seryth sighs deeply
[22:18] <Seryth> TheSheep: Same problem as before. Splash screen, then black.
[22:18] <Seryth> I'm now in the old kernel mode TTY again.
[22:18] <TheSheep> :(
[22:18] <Seryth> :'(
[22:19] <Seryth> I need to be in the new kernel TTY, i can't do anything from here
[22:19] <TheSheep> wait, you installed that driver with the old kernel or with the new one?
[22:19] <Seryth> new
[22:19] <Seryth> I'm pretty sure it was the new.
[22:19] <TheSheep> ok, then I ran out of ideas
[22:19] <Seryth> D:
[22:20] <Seryth> D':
[22:20] <TheSheep> perhaps it was the wrong driver after all
[22:20] <Seryth> Let me try to get into the new kernel TTY.
[22:20] <Seryth> Yeah, maybe
[22:20] <Seryth> seems like it was the right one though.
[22:20] <Seryth> brb, anothe rreboot
[22:24] <Seryth> Right, am in TTY on the new kernel
[22:25] <TheSheep> Seryth: ty 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[22:25] <TheSheep> try
[22:26] <Seryth> k
[22:26] <TheSheep> Seryth: and see if it says something in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:29] <mang0> TheSheep: Seryth here, computer has frozen. Everything has gone black...had to switch to other comp
[22:30] <Seryth> TheSheep: Oh, I'm back, unfrozen
[22:30] <Seryth> TheSheep: Dunno what that lightdm restart did, but it's just the same as it was before now.
[22:31] <Seryth> I should just back everything up and install ubuntu again, lol.
[22:31] <Seryth> Wouldn't mind trying another distro tbh....something that uses aptitude though. Perhaps debian. Although the packages are outdated...
[22:32] <TheSheep> Seryth: you can use aptitude on ubuntu just fine
[22:33] <Seryth> TheSheep: Exactly, what I mean is, I want a distro that still uses aptitude and apt get, etc.
[22:33] <Seryth> but I'd rather fix this first
[22:33] <Seryth> cba to re-install all my programs
[22:33] <Seryth> :'(
[22:34] <Seryth> This all happened because of freaking WINE. I tried to get Portal (one) working, and screwed everything up.
[22:35] <TheSheep> binary drivers are a huge pain
[22:36] <Seryth> apparently so :/
[22:37] <Seryth> TheSheep: I gotta go to sleep, I'm dropping...what timezone are you in?
[22:39] <TheSheep> Seryth: CET
[22:39] <TheSheep> Seryth: goodnight
[22:39] <mang0> TheSheep: Wassat in GMT? GMT +/- ?
[22:39] <TheSheep> +1 afair
[22:39] <mang0> oh cool
[22:39] <mang0> I'm GMT
[22:40] <mang0> Thanks so much for your help :) I'll try to fix this tomorrow, if it doen't work then I'll just install again.
[22:41] <TheSheep> mang0: you can save the list of packages you have installed
[22:41] <TheSheep> mang0: with dpkg -l
[22:41] <mang0> orly?
[22:41] <mang0> awesome
[22:41] <mang0> anyhoo, nn!
[22:41] <mang0> And thanks!