[01:04] <DasKreech> Anyone wants to take a look at a possible KDE 4.8 bug on system monitor in #kubuntu. http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2098/sysguardweird.png
[08:25] <Riddell> yofel: are you expecting to do digikam before FF?
[08:26] <Riddell> needs arm fixes if so
[08:26] <Riddell> 08:24 < Riddell> /build/buildd/digikam-2.4.1/core/libs/widgets/graphicsview/regionframeitem.cpp:640:66: error: no matching function for call to 'qBound(double, qreal, qreal)'
[08:26] <Riddell> or at least 2.4 does
[08:49] <yofel> Riddell: I hope, but I need to fix the patch for xsettings-kde first (see MIR)
[09:07] <Riddell> yofel: ok I'll keep it on my todo list incase I get time
[09:18] <yofel> Riddell: could you do me a favour and upload http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/xsettings-kde_0.12.3-0ubuntu2.debdiff ASAP?
[09:21] <Riddell> yofel: let me look
[09:25] <Riddell> yofel: uploaded
[09:25] <yofel> thanks
[10:37] <Ezim> hi its me (kurdistan). 
[10:37] <Ezim> I know for sure now my bluetooth problem is kernel related.
[10:38] <Ezim> same problem with nvidia opensource drivers.
[10:50] <Riddell> file a bug on linux then
[10:50] <Ezim> Riddell, I will do.
[10:50] <Riddell> or find a friendly linux team person to help but I suspect they're hard to find
[10:50] <Riddell> well done on debugging it this far
[10:51] <Ezim> the new nvidia driver is out. packing for myself.
[10:51] <Ezim> Riddell, nice day. I am going to have nice time with my girlfriend se you later.
[10:53]  * Riddell jelous :)
[11:22] <debfx> yay, only 13MB oversized after dropping the amarok handbooks
[11:24] <Riddell> debfx: oh excellent
[11:24] <Riddell> thanks for doing that
[11:24] <Riddell> that means more handbooks will be the obvious target for more sizing
[11:25] <debfx> yeah, mostly kubuntu-docs
[11:25] <Riddell> oh do we still have that?  we normally drop it before beta 2 at least
[11:26] <Riddell> removed
[11:28] <debfx> really? do we not want to install them by default?
[11:28] <debfx> I meant fixing bug #904351 
[11:28] <Riddell> we do but it's a problem for later
[11:28] <Riddell> bug 904351
[11:29] <Riddell> hmm
[11:29] <Riddell> "kubuntu-docs contains many incomplete translations"
[11:29] <Riddell> yes that would be very nice to have a better process for
[11:29]  * debfx wakes up ubottu
[11:30] <Riddell> kubuntu-docs would really benefit from an update in oneiric, it hasn't had one yet
[11:31] <Riddell> but I've no time alas
[11:31] <debfx> I  think including kubuntu-docs isn't a problem if we remove all the untranslated languages
[11:32] <Riddell> debfx: you mean incomplete translations in kubuntu-docs?
[11:32] <debfx> yes
[11:33] <Riddell> debfx: yes that would be good
[11:37] <debfx> there is a new version of virtuoso-opensource around (6.1.4) which upstream says is highly recommended for nepumuk
[11:41] <Riddell> debfx: mm, thanks, adding to my long long todo list
[11:42] <tim> hi, i wonder, why is the kdevelop beta provided in the kubuntu backports ppa? shouldn't the ppa only contain backports of stable releases?
[11:45] <Riddell> tim: you could argue it is in the wrong place yes
[11:45] <Riddell> tim: is it causing you problems?
[11:46] <tim> Riddell: yes ... it is not selecting the correct indentation mode ... even if i set it to use tabs, it uses spaces ... no matter if i have .kateconfig files around or not
[11:47] <tim> i've had this issue a few weeks ago, when using the git checkout ... so i went back to the deb
[11:47] <Riddell> tim: ok I've added a todo item "kdevelop update.  also move to beta PPA remove from updates"
[11:47] <tim> thnx!
[12:59] <rbelem> Riddell, i'm finishing contour package
[13:57] <yofel> Riddell: did digikam yet? If not I'll do it now
[14:00] <rbelem> Riddell, http://paste.kde.org/422174/
[14:00] <rbelem> Riddell, could you take a look in this debian/control? :-)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:03] <debfx> Riddell: could you promote oxygen-gtk3 and xsettings-kde? the MIRs have been approved
[14:04] <yofel> what should we make depend on xsettings-kde btw.? kubuntu-desktop?
[14:05] <yofel> well, recommend
[14:05] <debfx> yofel: yes, I have already seeded them
[14:05] <yofel> ah, thanks
[15:40] <apol_> does anybody know if I can contact Jonathan Thomas (from muon) in IRC? what's his nickname?
[15:42] <Ezim> apol_, only knows his blog
[15:42] <apol_> Ezim: you mean, you only know his blog?
[15:43] <Ezim> apol_, exactly and that is not any help
[15:43] <Ezim> I am pretty new to the dev-channel
[15:43] <apol_> Ezim: it's ok :) thanks
[15:43] <Ezim> :) my nick before is/was Kurdistan
[15:43] <apol_> does anybody know anything else? :P
[15:44] <BluesKaj> apol_,  check his launchpad page , you might get it there 
[15:44] <schnelle> apol_: JontheEchidna is his nickname
[15:45] <Ezim> schnelle, again thx for your ppa tips :).
[15:45] <apol_> thanks
[15:45] <schnelle> he is not online last couple of days...
[15:45] <Ezim> my panel have been working rock solid
[15:45] <schnelle> Ezim: mine too (party) :)
[15:46] <Ezim> schnelle, with the latest nvidia driver 295.20 my laptop is feeling good :=)
[15:46] <Ezim> nvnews is always late with changelog
[17:56] <Riddell> yofel: did you get onto digikam?
[17:57] <Ezim> Riddell, have you guys talked with philip5?
[17:57] <Ezim> he normally have digikam stuff up to date
[17:59] <Riddell> Ezim: no, does he do ubuntu packages?
[18:00] <Ezim> Riddell, yes.
[18:00] <Ezim> Riddell, philip johnsson is well known kde/kubuntu guy :).
[18:00] <Ezim> https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra
[18:00] <Riddell> hmm, interesting, why does he never come in here I wonder
[18:01] <Ezim> he was the person that learned me haxxor :)
[18:01] <Riddell> rbelem: contour control file looks good, anything you need me to do?
[18:01] <Ezim> Riddell, he is OP in our swedish loco channel
[18:02] <Riddell> he could be so useful working with the kubuntu community
[18:02] <Ezim> Riddell, you can ask him. he have big kde/kubuntu heart.
[18:09] <Mamarok> Riddell: my @kubuntu.org and ubuntu.com mail addresses are forwarded to my primary address, but this is not accessible anymore, how can I change that?
[18:15] <yofel> Riddell: nop, I'm dead tired today and had to take a nap, what are you working on rigtht now?
[18:16] <Riddell> yofel: just e-mail so can do whatever's needed
[18:16] <yofel> Mamarok: they both redirect to your primary launchpad addres
[18:16] <yofel> change that and they'll be updated in a day or 2
[18:16] <Riddell> lightdm, digikam, owncloud are on to todo list
[18:16] <Riddell> and whatever rbelem needs
[18:16] <yofel> I'll do digikam
[18:17] <Riddell> yofel: cool, should just be a marge from the 2.5.0 package from debian
[18:17] <Ezim> Riddell, again talk to philip. 
[18:17] <yofel> 2.5.0 though, 2.6 won't be final before 12.04 release
[18:17] <Riddell> there's no release schedule for 2.6 yet so don't talk to theat
[18:17] <Riddell> Ezim: bring him in here!
[18:17] <yofel> Riddell: http://www.digikam.org/drupal/about/releaseplan
[18:17] <Ezim> Riddell, he is not answering now, but I send him a PM.
[18:17] <Ezim> I hope i  answer
[18:18] <Riddell> yofel: oh good, you're ahead of me, carry on
[18:18] <yofel> oh yay, my calligra fix got committed upstream. One thing less to worry about
[18:18] <Riddell> nice
[18:19] <Ezim> Riddell, we are chatting now.
[18:19] <Ezim> I hope he comes
[18:19] <skaet> Riddell, (others interested... ;) )  do you want Kubuntu 10.04.4 images going out?  are there folks lined up to test them?
[18:20] <shadeslayer> when is the release date for 10.04.4 ?
[18:20] <skaet> shadeslayer, this thursday.  2/16
[18:20] <shadeslayer> argh
[18:20] <Riddell> mm, clashes with freature freeze
[18:20] <skaet> images are up on the iso tester right now.
[18:20] <shadeslayer> clashes with my exam
[18:21] <Riddell> I'm minded to ask on the mailing list etc for testers but otherwise we'll sit it out, feature freeze for 12.04 is more important
[18:21] <Riddell> !testers
[18:21] <Riddell> oh bot fail
[18:21] <Riddell> Tm_Tr: where's ububot for !testers call?
[18:22] <skaet> Riddell,  ok,  I'll leave them there for the next day,  will check with you tomorrow to see how it looks. 
[18:22] <Riddell> thanks skaet 
[18:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i uploaded contour to kubuntu active ppa
[18:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i will do the debian/copyright that is missing
[18:42] <Riddell> oh cool
[18:43] <Riddell> rbelem: give me a ping when it's ready for me to check over/upload
[18:44] <rbelem> Riddell, after that i will finish declarative-plasmoids, kde-artwork-active and startactive
[18:46] <Riddell> great
[19:11] <rbelem> Riddell, just uploaded contour
[19:11] <rbelem> Riddell, now debian/copyright is ok
[19:11] <Riddell> thanks, I think I need some food before I get onto that
[19:13] <rbelem> Riddell, oki :-)
[19:13]  * rbelem goes to next pkg
[19:27] <Riddell> debian copied my idea only 7 years late :) http://dot.kde.org/2005/12/18/people-behind-kde-debian-qtkde-packagers  http://raphaelhertzog.com/2012/02/10/people-behind-debian-ana-beatriz-guerrero-lopez-member-of-the-debian-kde-team/
[19:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.kde.nl/debian.html
[19:28] <shadeslayer> you broke something
[19:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: not me, kde.nl were always useless at it (that's why I did it but they took the credit)
[19:32] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I don't supposed you know what linker argument needs to be passed to link to kdecore and kdeui ?
[19:35] <shadeslayer> like, actual linker arguments, -lkdeui and -lkdecore seems to be failing
[19:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that's all that's needed
[19:39] <Riddell> assuming the linker can find libkdeui.so
[19:39] <shadeslayer> weird then
[19:39] <Riddell> pastebin the error?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> sec
[19:40] <yofel> meh, ubuntu is deprecating lcms1
[19:40] <Riddell> what's that and how does it affect us?
[19:41] <yofel> they want to have lcms1 at least in universe for 12.04, and libkdcraw and digikam depend on it. libkdcraw is fixed in master and digikam is at least in universe already
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/422480/
[19:41] <yofel> bug 885324
[19:42] <yofel> http://pad.lv/885324
[19:42] <Mamarok> yofel: thanks
[19:43] <yofel> libkdcraw *builds* against lcms2 with the upstream patch. Now question is whether it works
[19:43] <yofel> I'll poke them
[19:54] <skaet> Riddell, Kubuntu DVD's now posted as well for 10.04.4
[19:54] <Riddell> thanks
[19:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you keep an eye on ktp package progress?  ktp-common-internals is the first one and might now be building
[19:55] <shadeslayer> sure
[19:55] <shadeslayer> "Missing build dependencies: libtelepathy-qt4-dev"
[19:55] <shadeslayer> whut
[19:56] <shadeslayer> argh
[19:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: libtelepathy-qt4-dev is in universe
[19:57] <shadeslayer> :(
[19:57] <shadeslayer> and you uploaded ktp to main
[19:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: just promoted
[19:57] <shadeslayer> yay
[19:57] <Riddell> so if it still fails it'll need more retries
[19:57] <shadeslayer> No MIR's ? :P
[19:57] <Riddell> MIRs I'll do as soon as packages are compiled
[19:57] <shadeslayer> okay
[19:57] <Riddell> cheeky but only way to make FF
[19:58] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[19:58] <Riddell> and I know we may well end up going back to kopete
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ouch
[20:00] <Riddell> oh damn I sent an e-mail with a typo in the subject
[20:01] <Ezim> Riddell, mail to who?
[20:02] <Riddell> kubuntu-devel
[20:06] <yofel> heh
[20:08] <yofel> debfx: did you just seed oxygen-gtk and xsettings-kde or add them to kubuntu-desktop too?
[20:19] <debfx> yofel: I seeded them. you can only update the meta package once they are promoted to main
[20:19] <yofel> debfx: pitti just closed the bugs
[20:22] <yofel> hm, archive didn't catch up yet though
[20:25] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 615 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.0b-0ubuntu2
[20:28] <Riddell> yofel: yeah try again shortly.  so will gtk3 look pretty magically now for kubuntu?
[20:29] <Ezim> yofel: yeah try again shortly.  so will gtk3 look pretty magically now for kubuntu? <<--- that would be great :)
[20:29] <yofel> with xsettings-kde installed and new workspace: yes
[20:29] <Riddell> lovely
[20:29] <yofel> uh, and gtk3-engines-oxygen installed ^^
[20:30] <yofel> thank debfx for the kcm-gtk part
[20:30] <Ezim> yofel, is the package backportet soon?
[20:31] <yofel> gtk3-engines-oxygen is backported. The default setup changes not yet, I'll do that once we have everything in precise and it's been tested
[20:32] <Ezim> yofel, okey so it would not come to kubuntu-backports?
[20:32] <Riddell> let's get it working in precise before we worry about backports
[20:32] <yofel> it will, just in a few days, not now
[20:33] <Ezim> yofel, great. 
[20:33] <Ezim> good news 
[20:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings] Philip Muškovac * 471 * debian/changelog releasing version 1:12.04ubuntu3
[21:19] <debfx> yofel: I uploaded kubuntu-meta
[21:27] <Riddell> thanks debfx 
[21:33] <shadeslayer> no ubottu?
[21:33] <yofel> nope
[21:33] <shadeslayer> my linker has gone bonkers it seems
[21:33] <shadeslayer> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find /usr/bin/../lib/libprofile_rt.a: No such file or directory
[21:34] <shadeslayer> and now clang has gone bonkers : /home/shadeslayer/kde/libnice/build/tests/../.././tests/test-new-dribble.c:157: undefined reference to `llvm_gcda_increment_indirect_counter'
[21:43] <shadeslayer> nighters
[21:45] <yofel> gn
[22:34] <Riddell> agateau: yay, lightdm-kde works!
[22:35] <Riddell> although misses a user switches if I'm not mistaken
[22:36] <yofel> apachelogger_: what happened to plymouth?
[22:39] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/lightdm-kde.png  !
[22:39] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  suddenly my mouse bus seems corrupted . the cursor is very jerky and jumpy ..this is on an older pc 
[22:40] <BluesKaj> 12.04 and kde 4.8
[22:41] <Riddell> BluesKaj: needs you to work out what you changed/installed that would cause that
[22:42] <Ezim> BluesKaj, maybe the reason kernel update?
[22:42] <Ezim> *latest kernel
[22:42] <yofel> BluesKaj: if that's precise, they've been  randomly patching the input stack recently
[22:43] <BluesKaj> yeah  , well it was an update and upgrade from this morning ...it's no biggie since i can ssh and still store backups 
[22:43] <yofel> on my thinkpad multitouch got broken
[22:43] <Ezim> BluesKaj, you can try switching to older kernel see if it helps
[22:44] <yofel> Riddell: nice, but I prefer what shytan came up last cycle
[22:44] <BluesKaj> I don't spend much time on that pc . it's mainly for media back up files
[22:44] <yofel> at leat we would need a matching plymouth theme
[22:44] <Riddell> yofel: are you able to dig that out for agateau?
[22:44] <yofel> apachelogger_ did something there, but never uploaded that
[22:45]  * yofel digs through the ML
[22:47] <Riddell> agateau and d_ed (david edmundson of telepathy-kde fame) are into it
[22:49] <yofel> hm, can't find anything but david's original mail about lightdm-qt right now, I'll have to dig through the channel logs it seems -.-
[22:49]  * yofel looks for the quassel db export script
[22:50] <Ezim> Riddell, maybe you know. is it important to have real name when signing a gpg-key?
[22:50] <Riddell> Ezim: you want to sign someone else's key?
[22:50] <yofel> Riddell: no, he wants to create his own key
[22:50] <yofel> and I don't know what the policy is on that
[22:51] <Riddell> then you'll find it hard to have other people in ubuntu and debian sign it unless it has a name which matches government ID
[22:51] <Ezim> Riddell, I do not wanted to have my real name, more nickname.
[22:51] <yofel> well, he won't need that for ubuntu
[22:51] <Ezim> but with real mail
[22:51] <Riddell> I don't know if ubuntu has a strict policy or not, probably not but you'd need to check
[22:53] <Riddell> yofel: got any  good screenshots of oxygen-gtk3 in action?  I'm wanting to blog about feature freeze beating features
[22:54] <yofel> tell me a good application to snapshot - I can give you a working pic of pavucontrol
[22:55] <Ezim> yofel, ksnapshot?
[22:55] <Riddell> pavucontrol is fine
[22:55] <Ezim> shutter if you wanted.
[22:55] <Riddell> I don't know that much about gtk apps :)
[22:56] <yofel> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/pavu.png or do you want one with the default colorscheme?
[22:56] <Ezim> Riddell, for me it looks like this: http://imgur.com/nM0BF
[22:56] <Ezim> with kde-gtk-config
[22:57] <yofel> or use Ezim's 
[22:57] <Ezim> yofel, yours look good icons.
[22:57] <Ezim> my icons not perfect
[22:58] <Riddell> yofel: yuck, default colour scheme much better
[22:58] <yofel> I don't see a difference
[22:58] <yofel> Riddell: then take Ezim's, won't look any different
[22:58] <yofel> then again, his isn't english
[22:58] <yofel> sec
[22:58] <Ezim> yofel, you can see some icons are missed in mine.
[22:59] <Ezim> it looks much better then default with kubuntu
[22:59] <Ezim> but still not perfect
[23:00] <yofel> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/pavu1.png
[23:01] <Riddell> lovely, thanks
[23:01] <Ezim> yofel, can you see the difference now?
[23:01] <yofel> oh, yeah
[23:01] <yofel> I missed those
[23:02] <Ezim> :) like I said yours look wonderful
[23:02] <Ezim> great work yofel :).
[23:03] <yofel> could be that you're missing some icon pack there, I don't know which icons are used there
[23:03] <Ezim> yofel, oxygen
[23:03] <Ezim> I will try with others
[23:05] <Riddell> yofel: got a working digikam 2.5 for screenshottage?
[23:05] <yofel> Riddell: uploaded to ninjas, needs review
[23:05]  * BluesKaj uses the old fashioned marble colours and plastic theme , but it's more pleasing to the eye on my large monitor ...
[23:05] <Riddell> yofel: it failed to build there I think
[23:06] <yofel> -.-
[23:06] <BluesKaj> bummer , my prntscn key no longer works
[23:07] <yofel> argh, I forgot about mysql
[23:08] <Riddell> yofel: so you don't have it locally or you have better things to do than give me screenshots?
[23:10] <yofel> give me a minute
[23:11] <Ezim> BluesKaj, have you looked to hotkey settings?
[23:12] <Ezim> BluesKaj, it works great here.
[23:12] <BluesKaj> Ezim, , never had to use hotkeys
[23:12] <BluesKaj> BBL ...dinner
[23:14] <Ezim> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/QEzJs
[23:36]  * Ezim need to sleep. take care all of you. 
[23:36] <yofel> Riddell, agateau: found sheytans old lightdm design again, talk to him if you have questions http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2426/login21.png
[23:37] <Riddell> wow imageshack keep it for that long?
[23:37] <Riddell> facebrowser is nice, I wonder why they're not much used
[23:38] <Riddell> thanks yofel 
[23:38]  * yofel goes back to fixing digikam overwrite errors
[23:52] <Darkwing> How we looking for lightdm?
[23:57] <rbelem> Riddell, is contour pkg ok?
[23:58] <Riddell> rbelem: sorry didn't get round to it yet
[23:59] <Riddell> will do in the morning I promis
[23:59] <rbelem> Riddell, np :-)
[23:59] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks :-)