[00:00] <macram> DasKreech: same error.
[00:01] <DasKreech> macram: sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable --download-only
[00:01] <macram> DasKreech: same error.
[00:02] <macram> Please tell me you're not telling me random parameters
[00:04] <DasKreech> No It should download the archive and put it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:04] <DasKreech> That's the only reason I can think of why it would be complaining about no archive
[00:05] <DasKreech> or run ls /var/cache/apt/archives/*chrome*
[00:06] <macram> DasKreech: File doesn't exist
[00:06] <DasKreech> macram: well may want to hunt down that .deb file then
[00:06] <macram> DasKreech: from wherE?
[00:07] <DasKreech> I would presume the google-chrome repo
[00:08] <DasKreech> https://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?platform=linux ?
[00:13] <macram> DasKreech: installed it before
[00:13] <macram> doesn't change
[00:14] <Sentynel> hi guys, got some really odd behaviour on my system. the system monitor is showing the CPU usage permanently at 100%, but in the list of processes there's at most a handful of processes using a percent or two each. I'd assume it's a system monitor glitch, only my system keeps randomly locking up for a few seconds exactly as if the CPU was redlined. this has persisted after a reboot. any ideas?
[00:15] <DasKreech> macram: Not sure what archive it's speaking of there. I would presume it's ... wait you installed it and you have no .deb in /var/cache/apt/archive ?
[00:15] <macram> yep
[00:16] <macram> well
[00:16] <macram> it looked installed
[00:16] <macram> BUT
[00:16] <macram> it's not really installed
[00:16] <FloodBotK1> macram: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <macram> Muon didn't throw error
[00:19] <DasKreech> Sentynel: run a rootkit detector
[00:19] <DasKreech> macram: use dpkg ot apt-get
[00:21] <DasKreech> or
[00:22] <DasKreech> Sentynel: or check if system monitor is filtering by user
[00:26] <Sentynel> DasKreech: system monitor is set to all processes; no suspicious responses from rkhunter or chkrootkit
[00:29] <DasKreech> Sentynel: can you verify the 100% usage with top and htop ?
[00:29] <macram> ok
[00:29] <macram> i quit
[00:29] <macram> i'll reinstall ubuntu
[00:30] <Sentynel> DasKreech: htop is showing ~75% usage (fluctuating) on each core, and nothing that accounts for that in the process list
[00:32] <Sentynel> uh, that just dropped to about 15% on each with much less variation for no reason that I can see... system monitor is still showing 100%
[00:52] <jschall> What's the safest way to install the latest nvidia beta (295.17)?
[00:54] <DasKreech> Sentynel: I would say file a bug but I don't even know how you would replicate that. does it still occur on logout/relogin ?
[00:54] <DasKreech> !driver
[00:55] <DasKreech> !nvidia
[00:55] <Sentynel> DasKreech: I rebooted and it persisted. I have no idea how to replicated it. it's also worth noting that the CPU graph in the system monitor fluctuates, despite the display at the bottom showing CPU 100% permanently, but both cores are on 100% the majority of the time
[00:56] <Sentynel> htop's figures still seem to be sane, so I'm not sure why they were elevated for a while when I started it
[00:56] <DasKreech> Sentynel: could it be that the SVG cache isn't refreshing?
[00:56] <DasKreech> oh wait no it's the other way around the monitor is changing but the numbers are pegged
[00:56] <Sentynel> yeah
[00:57] <DasKreech> What version of KDE?
[00:57] <Sentynel> 4.8
[00:57] <Sentynel> from the official ppa
[00:59] <Sentynel> http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2098/sysguardweird.png here's a screengrab of htop and the system monitor
[01:06] <DasKreech> Sentynel: you have a large load for a 18% CPU usage
[01:07] <Sentynel> yeah, I don't know why the load averages are so high
[01:08] <Sentynel> I do have a file copy operation to an external device running at the moment; I don't know if IO waiting shows up in the load averages
[01:08] <Sentynel> (I did check, and there's no link between the copy operation and the system monitor's output)
[01:09] <xourii> Muon software center keeps crashing on me...what's going on?
[01:10] <xourii> It's a fresh install of Kubuntu and everything..
[01:12] <ubuntu> Hi there!
[01:13] <ubuntu> Hi room
[01:13] <xourii> Hi
[01:13] <ubuntu> does anybody know how to install lexmark printer driver?
[01:14] <xourii> What is a good browser to use with Kubuntu?
[01:15] <ubuntu> I find that firefox is better than reqonk
[01:16] <xourii> Yeah, I've had problems with rekonq
[01:16] <xourii> It opens a crapload of tabs/windows
[01:16] <xourii> for no reason
[01:18] <DasKreech> xourii: chromium might be good
[01:18] <DasKreech> !lexmark
[01:19] <ubuntu> Thx ubottu
[01:22] <DasKreech> xourii: what's going with Muon ?
[01:26] <DasKreech> Sentynel: Still 100 ?
[01:28] <Sentynel> DasKreech: huh, well. the numbers have started agreeing with the graphs now. but they still don't agree with htop's figures.
[01:29] <DasKreech> I'd poke ivancuvick about that. He's a pretty well informed person on that phenomenon but he's not on IRC now
[01:29] <Sentynel> hm, righto, will keep an eye out
[01:36] <xourii> What do you guys think about the Opera web browser?
[01:37] <xourii> Is it any good?
[01:52] <DasKreech> xourii: It is as long as you can stand closed code and development
[01:54] <DasKreech> Sentynel: ivan@fomentgroup.org or http://identi.ca/ivancukic
[01:54] <xourii> How well does Kubuntu work with android phones?
[01:54] <Sentynel> DasKreech: cheers
[01:54] <DasKreech> xourii: It doesn't
[01:54] <DasKreech> oh wait you mean as in mounting them?
[01:55] <DasKreech> not installing Kubuntu on them?
[01:55] <xourii> DasKreech: Like, putting music and such on it
[01:57] <DasKreech> xourii: Oh. umm I can't speak in general since I don't know how most android phones would do it but I've done it 1/2 a dozen times on the Epic 4G
[01:59] <Sentynel> most android phones should just behave as usb mass storage devices when you plug them in and press the mount sd card or whatever button on the phone
[02:00] <Sentynel> you can just copy/paste music on from the file manager or a media player like amarok
[02:01] <xourii> One more question..
[02:01] <xourii> I'm updating Kubuntu after a fresh install, and it seems to be stuck on 59%....
[02:02] <xourii> it says
[02:02] <xourii> running dpkg
[02:11] <DasKreech> xourii: Still?
[02:24] <puh> me so hooooooooooni
[02:31] <Guest3792ddd9> OK
[02:31] <Guest3792ddd9> I can not access to my Secondary HDD.
[02:32] <Guest3792ddd9> 한국 사람 계신가요?
[02:43] <dragon_> ellow ? cna any ooone help me out ?
[02:44] <dragon_> can any1 help me out ?
[02:48] <DasKreech> dragon_: hmm?
[02:49] <dragon_> i am having troubles with this new os an inneed of som asstance
[02:49] <DasKreech> dragon_: anything more specific ?
[02:50] <DasKreech> dragon_: you can ask
[02:51] <dragon_> well im tryin to get tha video codes to work, i start a video, well it says it downloaded an instaled tha codes needed, but then it dont play tha video, i close outa tha video player, an open a video again jus to get tha download an install tha codecs
[02:53] <DasKreech> dragon_: install the package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:53] <dragon_> an how do i go about that, i am new to this kubuntu os... i have used tha ubuntu os tho
[02:56] <DasKreech> dragon_: Ah. Well you can open Muon and do that or if you are comfortable with the command line you can type in sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:57] <dragon_> not good wit comand line utilities... nor was good with dos.. lol....im used to somthin like a windows enviroment... ok, an were do i find tha Muon program.... sry 4 tha hassell
[02:58] <DasKreech> dragon_: alt+F2 -> muon
[02:59] <dragon_> thanx
[03:01] <dragon_> this os is dfntly alot diff then that of tha ubuntu gnome os
[03:02] <hc_> hola
[03:04] <dragon_> is that were i will find most of anythin i would want to install, thru tha muon ?
[03:19] <dragon_> Wich of tha muon's should i use for searching software..tha software center or package manager
[03:46] <clone1018> Hey, having some networking problems, basically, I'm connected via eth0 to the internet, and it randomly disconnects
[04:31] <Charlie__> umm..hello good people where can i get the nickname liist in this quassel client
[04:54] <em> When I installed the catalyst 12.1 driver (the latest) from the AMD website: (1) when I rebooted the splash screen was gone, and (2) the desktop was painfully slow, like when you reposition any window you get window tearing.
[05:05] <em> is the fglrx that is packaged by Ubuntu actually the catalyst driver offered by AMD?
[05:07] <lethu> em, nope
[05:07] <em> what is it then?
[05:07] <lethu> em, you can find the proprietary driver in Additional Drivers in the system menu
[05:08] <em> are you sure that fglrx isnt the proprietary driver?
[05:08] <lethu> well, it's too late in the night, so I am not sure
[05:08] <em> i dont blame you. im not either.
[05:09] <lethu> em, wait I'll check for you
[05:11] <lethu> em, yes fglrx is AMD's driver
[05:12] <lethu> sorry for the confusion
[05:13] <lethu> em, you can access the amd control center via this command -> $ amdcccle
[05:14] <em> hm.
[05:15] <em> if the fglrx is AMD's own driver then I don't see why you can't just install the package rather than installing it from the website.
[05:15] <em> for the purposes of bitcoin mining.
[07:25] <casb> hello good people of kubunthoo
[07:28] <casb> i was wondering if someone could help me with this little issue of myne
[07:28] <casb> since i just instelled linux yesterday
[07:28] <casb> and am pretty sure its no biggie
[07:28] <casb> ..?
[07:29] <casb> umm
[07:31] <casb> any1?
[07:38] <lethu> casb, just gon on
[07:38] <lethu> go on*
[07:38] <lethu> you won't get help if you don't describe your problem
[07:38] <casb> im here im here
[07:39] <casb> just figured out the /windows channel #vdfoi command
[07:39] <casb> :)
[07:39] <lethu> gratz
[07:39] <lethu> you have won 1 kudos
[07:39] <casb> windows even
[07:39] <casb> thanks :)
[07:39] <casb> window !
[07:39] <casb> i wrote windows so many times in my life apperantly
[07:42] <casb> anyhow i instelled the tiger pckg which is some sort of securty analysis program
[07:42] <casb> and with it the sendmail (deamon?) came
[07:42] <casb> which i think was 32bit ..me havin 64bit thinky instelled
[07:44] <casb> after running this tiger (for what i had absolutely no reason to run in the first place)
[07:44] <lethu> casb,  go on
[07:44] <casb> i uninstalled it with the --purge
[07:45] <casb> but i think/know that all the packages that it was depended upon stayed
[07:46] <casb> and there surely isnt ione easy way to role this whole process back pr is there
[07:47] <casb> i cheked the dpkg.log and have a pretty good idea what came with it
[07:47] <casb> so my question is
[07:47] <casb> in umm..wait
[07:48] <casb> synaptics packadge manager
[07:48] <casb> i now have two sendmail things installed
[07:49] <casb> and jack and some other stuff that came with the 'tiger'
[07:49] <casb> is one on by defauld with this distro or not
[07:50] <casb> i really have no reall good overall perspective of what im doing here
[07:50] <casb> and also there are two entrys of it in etc/passwd .. ?
[07:50] <casb> one after another
[07:51] <casb> any of these making any sense ?
[07:51] <casb> never used spm before in my life :S
[07:53] <DasKreech> casb: :)
[07:53] <casb> lol
[07:53] <casb> what ?
[07:53] <DasKreech> casb: I think that it should be ok
[07:53] <DasKreech> what does whereis sendmail say ?
[07:54] <casb> w8
[07:54] <casb> sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/share/sendmail /usr/share/man/man8/sendmail.8.gz
[07:55] <casb> grrr ..any1 know how to put the "window" over all lines in bx ?
[07:56] <casb> cos right now i have 3/4 statur and 1/4 #kubuntu and its really stresfull on me
[07:57] <casb> done >)
[07:58] <DasKreech> Hmm?
[07:58] <DasKreech> what window over bx ?
[07:58] <casb> im on terminal bit*hX
[07:59] <casb> its /windows grow [number of lines]
[08:00] <casb> so what do you guys think should i just leave the packagas that tiger cam with or 'unclick' them in synaptics ?
[08:01] <casb> i mean its no biggy i just dont know am i running a mail deamon now
[08:01] <casb> was i running it prior ?
[08:02] <casb> am i not running it but its just installed beceuse of some other stuff ....
[08:02] <casb> is it there if u do a fresh install ?
[08:02] <casb> do i need it ?
[08:04] <casb> ...im not making any sense eh
[08:09] <casb> cmon tellme what to do here .. i know for all the other stuff 'tiger' came with like chkrootkit, e4, jack,.. that i can remove them , i just dont know about this sendmail
[08:10] <casb> pardon, m4 , not e4 :)
[08:38] <bsidb> The Recent Documents Menu in KDE is not geilivable enough, does someone else have the same feeling?
[08:39] <Guest60510> bsidb: I'm interested in knowing what "geilivable" means
[08:41] <bsidb> Guest60510:"gelivable" is a popular Chinglish word means "awesome" in English
[08:44] <bsidb> the word came from China and became "officially" admitted by the Chinese government in a news report in 人民日报. The New York Times also reported the word's popularity among Chinese network users.
[08:45] <fille12> any css pro here?
[09:28] <andrew__> hello
[12:01] <alex____> 7alex7
[12:10] <zorael> Where do you enable expanding folders in the Details view in Dolphin again?
[12:42] <krinetic> Hello! What is the best msn messenger for kde? Should I use kopete, amsn or kmess ?
[12:59] <orated> Hello! I sometimes suddenly get this pop up - http://imagebin.org/198867 - and then there is no sound. How can I fix it?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:20] <orated> Hello! I sometimes suddenly get this pop up - http://imagebin.org/198867 - and then there is no sound. How can I fix it?
[14:21] <Ezim> orated, have you installed pulseaudio things?
[14:23] <orated> Ezim: Oh yes. State: installed
[14:23] <Ezim> orated, take no
[14:23] <Ezim> and take do not ask
[14:24] <orated> Ezim: ?
[14:24] <Ezim> orated, mean the picture you send.
[14:25] <Ezim> Do not ask again for this device. mark it. then choose no.
[14:26] <Ezim> orated, kmix is not starting for you?
[14:26] <orated> Ezim: Well, then how is it relaed to pulseaudio. I think system uses also often. Should I uninstall pulseaudio? And if I check it to not to ask again and click no then it would just stop the audio anytime without error.
[14:26] <orated> Kmix seems to work fine
[14:27] <Ezim> orated, you only get this message?
[14:27] <orated> Yes
[14:27] <Ezim> this message is no harm
[14:27] <orated> And
[14:27] <Ezim> like I write before;Do not ask again for this device. mark it. then choose no.
[14:28] <orated> ..I get that when switching user or on kdesudo and other times just randomly. Sound then come back only after restart
[14:28] <orated> Ok, thanks
[14:28] <Ezim> orated, np.
[14:28] <Ezim> orated, try restart and make does thing that normally pop up this message.
[14:29] <Ezim> if it does not come anymore and no other problem is there
[14:29] <Ezim> then your problem is solved
[14:29] <Ezim> if not :) we must find other solution
[14:30] <Ezim> brb need to log out.
[14:30] <orated> !pulseaudio
[14:30] <orated> !info pulseaudio
[14:30] <orated> !info alsa
[14:31] <csgeek> I was trying to connect to a vpn server using openconnect, though I don't see a network-manager-openconnect-kde yet.  Is it not supported through the GUI yet?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !alsa
[14:32] <orated> !info also-source
[14:33] <orated> !info also-oss
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !alsa-base
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hmm, odd because alsa is installed by default
[14:33] <orated> What is the default sound server used in Ubuntu?
[14:33] <orated> hm
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !info alsa-base
[14:33] <orated> is optional
[14:34] <designbybeck> goodmorning cool kids
[14:34] <BluesKaj> strange it installed on 12.04 from the alpha livecd
[14:35] <Ezim> BluesKaj, :) the new nvidia driver is out.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hey designbybeck
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  295 ?
[14:35] <Ezim> 295.20 :)
[14:36] <Ezim> working really great
[14:36] <designbybeck> I asked this question, but not sure if i saw a response yesterday... In Ubuntu i used Startup Disk Creator to make a live usb drive, How do I do that in Kubntu
[14:36] <Ezim> designbybeck, unetbootin
[14:36] <Ezim> works good
[14:36] <orated> !info usb-creator-kde
[14:36] <designbybeck> ah yes, I have used that one as well Ezim,
[14:37] <designbybeck> i'll check that one as well orated, thank you
[14:37] <BluesKaj> well Ezim I belong to the school where if it ain't broke , don't fix it
[14:37] <Ezim> BluesKaj, thats good. for me it was before broken and it got fixed :).
[14:38] <designbybeck> *sigh* I know that "place" all to well BluesKaj
[14:38] <designbybeck> We use Blackboard LMS,.....it SUCKS!
[14:38] <designbybeck> but they don't even want to try Moodle LMS
[14:40] <BluesKaj> designbybeck , but I'm not afraid to experiment either , once I have a stable setup I try not to try too many new offerings even within an alph/beta setup
[14:40] <designbybeck> that is good
[14:41] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  LMS  ?
[14:41] <designbybeck> Learning Management System
[14:42] <BluesKaj> ok , Im strictly a home user , so workplace apps etc aren't in my scope
[14:43] <designbybeck> gotcha,
[14:43] <designbybeck> you mentioned school eariler didn't know if you were a student or worked at one
[14:45] <BluesKaj> I did use MS OSs of various versions up to W98 at work ,but  then I retired and now I spend a lot of time during the winter months here .
[14:46] <BluesKaj> altho I have other projects besides Linux on the go as well
[14:46] <BluesKaj> I mentioned school ?...don't think so :)
[14:46] <Ezim> BluesKaj, :) but your passion is towards our kubuntu :P. aint that right?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:48] <BluesKaj> we should all join #kubuntu-offtopic to discuss personal projects etc
[14:50] <designbybeck> joining now BluesKaj
[14:51] <BluesKaj> cool
[16:51] <Meinomiswuascht> does anybody know how to get rid of those annoying "cannot read from backend" error messages in kontact?
[16:53] <Ezim> Meinomiswuascht, any screenshots?
[16:54] <Meinomiswuascht> ezim: no, not now... It's probably a problem with the akonadi backends
[16:54] <Meinomiswuascht> if I get one: where should I put it?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> akonadi, what a pita , most ppl don't even need it
[16:54] <Ezim> Meinomiswuascht, I always disable nepomuk
[16:55] <Ezim> and uninstalling akonadi needed application
[16:55] <Ezim> :) then I get rocksolid system
[16:55] <Meinomiswuascht> yeah, but if everyone would do this, nobody would help the kontact team fixing bugs... ;-)
[16:56] <BluesKaj> akonadi can't be uninstalled afaik , it takes the whole kubuntu desktop with it
[16:56] <Meinomiswuascht> and I actually don't really like thunderbird
[16:56] <Ezim> Meinomiswuascht, yeah :) when they fix I will not need to uninstall endless of things
[16:56] <Ezim> and change to gtk application likes thunderbird
[16:57] <Ezim> BluesKaj, not neccesery to uninstall akonadi only uninstall application depending on akonadi
[16:57] <Ezim> like kmail
[16:57] <Ezim> kontact
[16:57] <Ezim> etc
[16:57] <Meinomiswuascht> The thing is that kontact/akonadi/nepomuk actually would be great if it worked. Loads of good stuff
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Meinomiswuascht,  after 9.04 kmail/kontact was absolutely ruined
[16:57] <Meinomiswuascht> I know, I'm on Linux since 2006
[16:57] <BluesKaj> yes Ezim , i also disable akonadi in system startup & shautdown
[16:58] <Meinomiswuascht> Always using kde. Just prefer it to gnome
[16:58] <Ezim> BluesKaj, good for you :).
[16:58] <BluesKaj> and nepomuk
[16:59] <Meinomiswuascht> well actually nepomuk is a lot more stable now. Doesn't crash all the time. Still takes a lot of cpu, but less than before...
[17:00] <Meinomiswuascht> have to go. See you another time!
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Meinomiswuascht,  you might want to investigate krusader , it's search option finds files just as well as nepomuk and it doesn't use a clunky daemon that uses up resources
[17:01] <BluesKaj> it's also a gret file manager
[17:01] <BluesKaj> great
[17:01] <BluesKaj> bummer
[17:02] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:25] <BoomerBile> i know there is a command you can execute on the command line to change your rendering provider, i've used it when i installed 11.04 and had issues with ati, nvidia, and intel drivers choosing the wrong provider for my card... anyone know how to select the 3d provider from the command line ?
[17:47] <Torch> BoomerBile: do you mean setting the QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM env var?
[17:47] <BoomerBile> not sure... but i found my answer... update-alternatives --config gl_conf
[17:54] <athanor> hi
[17:55] <athanor> anyone knows how to fix this?  line 2:  6312 segmental fault
[17:55] <athanor> I am trying to installl a program called Molden
[17:56] <athanor> and when I try to run it, with comand gmolden, the error appears
[17:57] <athanor> anyone knows how to fix this?  line 2:  6312 segmental fault,  I  am trying to installl a program called Molden, and when I try to run it, with comand gmolden, the error appears
[19:08] <sila-levy> hi
[19:08] <sila-levy> hello everyone
[19:09] <sila-levy> hhh
[19:09] <Riddell> hello, welcome to #kubuntu
[19:44] <sijxowrl> hello]
[19:47] <markus__> moin
[20:32] <Rovanion> What package can I install to get some sort of volume icon in the trey?
[20:32] <Ezim> Rovanion, kmix is there.
[20:32] <Ezim> or you can add widget
[20:33] <Rovanion> Ah, kmix added an icon
[20:36] <Ezim> :)
[20:37] <JuJuBee> Can I umount /home (separate partition) while booted into os and change the UUID to mount a new HD I just set up?
[20:43] <GradysGhost> This chan seems a bit quiet for having 276 users.
[20:46] <yofel> JuJuBee: unmounting /home while you're logged in as a user that has his home directory in there will probably not work. I should worked while logged in as root (wich is discouraged). You could mount the new one, copy over what you need, change the UUID in fstab and reboot
[20:46] <yofel> -.-
[20:50] <rosco_y> what should I install to listen to audio cds?
[20:52] <Ezim> rosco_y, you mean codecs?
[20:52] <rosco_y> Ezim: thank you.  I a newb, and when I put an audo cd in my drive, nothing happens.
[20:53] <Ezim> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:53] <rosco_y> is that a repo?
[20:53] <rosco_y> or an install package?
[20:53] <Ezim> search for that with muon
[20:53] <rosco_y> ty, what is muon?
[20:53] <Ezim> or open konsole and write: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:53] <rosco_y> Thank you very much :)
[20:54] <Ezim> np
[21:23] <opapo> rdesktop closes with a segmentation fault and no other information
[21:24] <opapo> where do I go for errors?
[22:07] <maxjezy> hello, anyone know how to fix the bug with overlapping softwaretabs in the panel
[22:07] <maxjezy> sometimes 2 tabs overlap
[22:07] <maxjezy> looks so ugly
[22:08] <maxjezy> using the KDE 4.8
[22:08] <maxjezy> kubuntu
[22:10] <Ezim> maxjezy, welcome :).
[22:13] <opapo> rdesktop will "Segmentation fault" if I close a window on my Windows XP box
[22:16] <maxjezy> Ezim, grrrr!
[22:17] <Guest73022> a
[22:17] <Ezim> maxjezy, :) you have got your answer elsewhere.
[22:17] <yofel> maxjezy: if you get an empty panel space while it does that, I filed a bug about that a while ago as I get that too with the default task manager. No response yet :/
[22:18] <yofel> Ezim: he did?
[22:18] <Ezim> yofel, he could also use task manager with icons
[22:18] <Ezim> yofel, yeah :) from swedish loco channel.
[22:18] <yofel> right, which is what I'm doing righ tnow
[22:19] <Ezim> yofel, :).
[22:21] <maxjezy> well, i found a easy way to fix it when it happends
[22:21] <maxjezy> just press printscreen
[22:21] <maxjezy> and then they go back to normal
[22:21] <maxjezy> not able to printscreen the bugg
[22:21] <maxjezy> a smart bugg
[22:22] <Ezim> maxjezy, have you tried "my" solution to your problemo? :)
[22:22] <maxjezy> Ezim, no
[22:22] <maxjezy> cuz i cant find that stuff
[22:23] <maxjezy> now i did
[22:23] <maxjezy> and i did not like it
[22:24] <jmichaelx> maybe should be asked in off-topic, but is there a way to set the font in thunderbird according to actual size, rather than relative size (smaller/larger)??
[22:24] <aguitel> is anyone using razor qt desktop ?
[22:25] <jmichaelx> aguitel: i have just starting making some use of it
[22:25] <Ezim> maxjezy, oki.
[22:25] <aguitel> jmichaelx, side by side with kde ?
[22:25] <maxjezy> now that Kubuntu is not supported by canonical
[22:25] <maxjezy> can we have blender ppa and blender installed by default?
[22:25] <maxjezy> all great operativesystems should have blender
[22:26] <jmichaelx> aguitel: no. i have installed it on a laptop running xubuntu
[22:26] <jmichaelx> so, alongside xfce
[22:26] <maxjezy> it's the biggest and most devoleped software
[22:26] <maxjezy> and it's not by default
[22:26] <maxjezy> that kinda sucks
[22:26] <aguitel> jmichaelx, what is your opinion?
[22:26] <maxjezy> dont you think?
[22:27] <jmichaelx> aguitel: i am not sure i can say yet for sure, but my feelings have been very positive so far
[22:28] <jmichaelx> aguitel: i have waned to see a much lighter Qt-based DE for a LONG time
[22:28] <aguitel> jmichaelx, can i remove all kde (kubuntu) stuff ,and remain razor ?
[22:29] <maxjezy> aguitel, if you did install the metapackage with aptitude
[22:29] <jmichaelx> aguitel: not exactly sure what you mean by that, but i guess you would only need whichever parts of KDE you want
[22:29] <maxjezy> just uninstall it with aptitude
[22:29] <maxjezy> then all KDE packages go away
[22:31] <aguitel> jmichaelx, maxjezy remove with the first line of this page:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[22:34] <maxjezy> that's one hell of a line
[22:34] <aguitel> maxjezy, what means
[22:49] <jmichaelx> good god, managing fonts in thunderbird sucks arse
[22:50] <Ezim> jmichaelx, I use freesans instead of default ubuntu one
[22:51] <Ezim> jmichaelx, try to change colour to oxygen cold
[22:51] <Ezim> if that helps
[22:51] <jmichaelx> Ezim: my problem is that i cut and pasted something into an email, which changed the font.... right now, i am just trying to get things set so that the entire email is using the same font/font size. sounds like it should be easy, but it hasn't been.
[22:52] <Ezim> jmichaelx, hmm. I have not thunderbird installed yet.
[22:53] <Ezim> jmichaelx, you can try: http://packages.netrunner-os.com/pool/main/k/kde-gtk-config/
[22:53] <Ezim> maybe temp. solution
[22:54] <Sentynel> jmichaelx: use edit > paste without formatting to stop that happening
[22:55] <jmichaelx> Sentynel: i have tried that, but that didn't seem to change anything
[22:56] <jmichaelx> in other words, it still changed the font settings
[23:01] <tele15> hey there, i am upgraded 11.10 to kernel 3.0.0-16, after that no boot with this kernel, i am running on an crypted disk, with 3.0.0-15 anything is still fine. But 3.0.0-16 only put me to grub shell, without asking for crypt pass. Any Ideas?
[23:01] <MrCrackers> tele15 can u use tory encyrption method
[23:03] <tele15> Give me a hint ?
[23:04] <tele15> i used the alternate install with lvm and encrypted disk at inital install, and since then all kernel updates gone fine.
[23:20] <lalozero> ola ?
[23:21] <lalozero> alguien que me pueda ayudar ?? o.O
[23:22] <lalozero> hola.....
[23:23] <lalozero> ecooo..... ecooo.... cooo... coo...ooo... oo... o.
[23:24] <lalozero> estan ?
[23:28] <lalozero> alguien sabe como instalar el gerix wifi cracker ??
[23:28] <lalozero> ingles o español ??
[23:55] <jmichaelx> since installing kde sc 4.8, synergy/quick synergy has been giving me fits
[23:55] <Darkwing> !es