=== sikon is now known as lucidfox === bcurtis is now known as bcurtiswx === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine [06:05] Good morning [06:21] good morning [06:21] pitti, good morning. [06:21] didrocks, you too :) [06:21] hey didrocks, bonjour BigWhale [06:23] good morning guys [06:23] hey kenvandine_ [06:23] BigWhale, did you see my comment on your merge proposal? [06:23] hey BigWhale, guten morgen pitti, hi kenvandine_ [06:23] hey pitti [06:24] pitti, we've gotten dobey's branch of gwibber working with webkit-gtk3 and gnomekeyring gir :) [06:24] ! [06:24] it needs a little minor cleanup, then we can drop the webkit gtk2 depends :) [06:25] so that's only ubuntu-sso-client left then [06:25] and I figure they'll working on that [06:25] * pitti smells some hope for the grossly oversized images [06:25] yeah, they are very motivated [06:25] :) [06:26] kenvandine, not yet [06:26] kenvandine_: my fear is just that they'll push hard to get pyqt on [06:26] it was way more work than it should have been [06:26] kenvandine_: but that's twice as big as the old webkit [06:26] pitti, well that is their motiviation [06:26] ugh [06:26] so it can't happen right now [06:26] i thought they had worked out the size and webkit would make enough room [06:26] kenvandine, I am still waiting for my sensors to calibrate ... :> [06:26] no, webkit saves about 7 MB, pyqt4 is about 13 [06:27] BigWhale, :) [06:27] ugh [06:27] conflicts? really. weird. [06:27] BigWhale, merge conflicts in the proposal [06:27] and regardless of how big pyqt4 is, it's not a zero-sum game; we are 17 MB oversized right now [06:27] WOW [06:27] the biggest offenders are firefox and tbird, which grew another 2.5 MB each [06:28] about 10 MB is just noise from the delta langpacks, these will disappear [06:29] BigWhale, i would like to merge your branch tonight, if you can fix that up [06:29] yeah ... [06:29] I'm looking at it right now [06:30] kenvandine, did you change anything in stream-view-tile.vala and the conflicts are actual conflicts or it's just bazar being silly? [06:31] i merged robert_ancell's branch last night [06:31] which changed parts of that [06:31] he fixes all the compiler warnings :) [06:31] * kenvandine_ hugs robert_ancell [06:31] kenvandine_, well, not all of them :) [06:31] most :) [06:31] all the vala ones i think [06:31] kenvandine_, I was playing around with lp:~robert-ancell/gwibber/bake... [06:32] i saw :) [06:33] * kenvandine_ also has a branch that removes all the hacks for finding service icons [06:33] * kenvandine_ is happy with that [06:34] kenvandine, will it be too late if I fix this in half an hour? I have to take the kids to school. :> [06:36] BigWhale, i should still be up :) [06:36] BigWhale, no worries [06:36] ok cool [06:36] later [06:49] hello, did the default gtk theme change in precise? my gtk menus now seem to have a light background, and not a dark one [06:50] my theme is sent to ambience (and not radiance) [06:53] achiang, some of them do [06:53] the appmenu menus and the indicators shouldn't [06:53] but context menus are light now [06:54] kenvandine_: isn't it 2am where you are? :) [06:54] achiang, indeed [06:54] yikes [06:54] :) [06:54] kenvandine_: yeah, the context menus are light [06:54] i think that is intentional [06:54] kenvandine_: e.g., in empathy, when you right click on a contact and select "information" the text is hard to read [06:54] yeah [06:55] there is a bug filed on that [06:55] against light-themes [06:55] kenvandine_: ah, ok [06:55] cool [06:55] are all these changes announced on u-desktop list? [06:55] or do i just have to wait for omg! to tell me what's up? :) [06:56] precise has been a lot of, "is that a bug or intentional" [06:57] kenvandine_: correction, right click on a contact => information is fine; but hover over a contact produces an unreadable window [06:57] yeah, that is what i meant [06:57] achiang, that is the norm :) [06:57] heh ok [06:57] thanks [06:58] i know because i maintain some of the packages [06:58] that's one way to stay abreast of the situation. :) [06:59] ok, i am going to try to sleep now, (a mere 23:00), like a normal person [06:59] cheers [07:01] :) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:05] didrocks: any possibility to have a quickfix for compiz on armel? [07:06] pitti: I pinged sam about it, didn't get any feedback yet [07:06] error: cast from 'QList::Node*' to 'QVariant*' increases required alignment of target type [-Werror=cast-align] [07:06] that looks a little weird to me [07:06] why do different pointer types need different alignment? [07:06] oh, I guess the thing they point to do [07:06] yeah, seems that a bad thing is done with the Qt bindings, I think instead of a QVariant*, the QList should be used [07:07] (QList of QVariant) [07:07] didrocks: ok, thanks [07:09] pitti, thanks for uploading c-f. [07:09] tkamppeter: no worries, thanks for the fixes! [07:39] RAOF: hey :) [07:39] didrocks: Yo [07:39] RAOF: on https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/unity/unidirectional-barrier/+merge/92889, the barrier on the other direction is on purpose [07:39] Oh, really? [07:40] Why? [07:40] RAOF: apparently, design tested on multimonitor, and if you for instance, try to grab the the scrollbar on the left monitor and accidently go to the right one [07:40] then, try to take it back again, you have to reveal the launcher and so on… [07:40] (as you have to go from right to left) [07:40] Fair enough. [07:40] but [07:41] IMHO, those barriers should be removed if we are in "launcher always shown" mode? [07:41] Right, yes. [07:41] That was what I was about to say :) [07:41] Incidentally, I've got a test for your crazy xt2 touchpad. [07:41] we agree, I didn't talk to design about it yet :) [07:41] oh great! [07:41] seems the dell mini 10v is one of the offender as well btw [07:42] The server + libs in ppa:raof/help-jason send some extra information on the events; I'll send you some code to dump that information and see if we can get more consistent numbers out. [07:43] RAOF: excellent! I'll try to focus to get an unity ready for testing today, but I can have some free time tomorrow for it! [07:43] And the server will be built by then :) [07:45] which is the right timing I guess! :) [07:51] smspillaz: hey dude! [07:51] smspillaz: thanks for the fix on the "all windows minimized" [07:52] smspillaz: ping back on a less funny stuff: bug #931500 [07:52] Launchpad bug 931500 in kdebase-workspace "post 0.9.7 snapshot: FTBFS on armel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931500 [07:52] should we harrass Riddel? [07:53] didrocks: doesn't riddel not work on kubuntu anymore ? [07:53] smspillaz: he's still [07:53] didrocks: I think probably we should just disable the kde build :p [07:53] smspillaz: hum, demoting right now those packages are still a little bit of work [07:53] smspillaz: btw, will be fun next cycle with kubuntu in universe [07:53] we will have to remove all the kde stuff [07:54] it still builds on other archs though [07:54] so I would like to see first with Riddell about it and then, we can take a decision [07:54] didrocks: O.o yikes [07:54] didrocks: in /universe/ ? [07:55] smspillaz: kde, yeah [07:55] I didn't think it was becoming ... that unmaintained [07:55] it's community maintained [07:56] smspillaz: the issue is in /usr/include/kpluginfactory.h, isn't it? [07:56] oh so everything in main is canonical maintained then ? [07:56] yeah something like that [07:56] although, I'm not sure. .. I'm tempted to drop the kde decorator entirely although [07:56] I'm not sure what the reprocussions of that will be ? [07:56] maybe we should move it into a separate package [07:56] well, the definition is quite complicated and not everyone has the same (we made this game with lool a couple of cycle ago about the main definition for everyone) :) [07:56] and repo or something [07:57] smspillaz: you mean upstream, yeah, kind of a little bit late for now though [07:57] smspillaz: Canonical supported would be more accurate [07:57] that makes sense [07:57] smspillaz: but it's building on i386/amd64, so maybe the alignement fix can be easier [07:57] its going to be a bit awkward when kubuntu distupgrades [07:57] and they get like [07:58] "600 packages are no longer maintained" [07:59] pitti: I assigned Riddell for the kdelibs issue (re: compiz FTBFS on armel) [08:00] smspillaz: thanks for your input! [08:00] didrocks: thanks [08:00] didrocks: uh oh, what's this? [08:01] didrocks: np [08:01] Riddell: hey :) see bug #931500 [08:01] Launchpad bug 931500 in kdelibs "post 0.9.7 snapshot: FTBFS on armel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931500 [08:02] oh gcc being fussy is it? [08:02] :p [08:02] Riddell: well, it doesn't like this kind of casting, right :) [08:02] does sound like an actual crasher, though [08:02] there's probably a simple fix, I'll try and work it out [08:02] thanks Riddell [08:02] :) [08:03] pitti: why a crasher? if the pointer is well used, it shouldn't really make a difference with the QList from a [08:03] … from a pointer, isn't it? [08:04] I guess it depends what you want to access, but yes, I think I was confused [08:04] if the original object works, then the alignment should be ok [08:05] yeah, it's just to prevent from making bad things with it I reckon in the way you are accessing other elements [08:06] smspillaz: on bug #871801 can you please link both new branches (the unity one and the compiz one) to it, please? [08:06] Launchpad bug 871801 in unity "window management, alt-tab - After using 'show desktop' to minimise all windows, opening any new window also incorrectly restores all the minimised windows " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871801 [08:07] ok [08:07] well, only the compiz one is not attached :) [08:07] I only just uploaded it :p [08:07] smspillaz: you should use --fixes lp:bugnumber [08:07] smspillaz: when you commit [08:07] then, it's automagically done [08:07] (also open a compiz downstream task please ;)) [08:14] pitti: I'm afraid we will have again feature freeze exception to request for unity [08:14] didrocks: unsurprisingly :) [08:15] didrocks: but with the rather strict AC this should be a lot less of a problem [08:15] didrocks: HUD is rather intrusive, though [08:15] pitti: yeah :/ I'm trying to get those for another release next week [08:15] pitti: the HUD will land thursday [08:15] no worry about that one, phew ;) [08:16] ibus support, maybe integrated menu, and also the coverflow (and so, the video lens) will go for next week. [08:20] meh, digikam FTBFS [08:22] uh oh [08:22] oh on arm [08:23] it's due to the new opencv, I'll have a poke on it [08:23] no, on all arches [08:23] cmake just makes it really hard to see the actual error [08:24] oh ok, there's a new digikam to be packaged before thursday so it might not be worth fixing incase it fixes itself [08:24] ah, good; I'll postpone that then, thanks for the heads-up [08:24] /build/buildd/digikam-2.4.1/core/libs/widgets/graphicsview/regionframeitem.cpp:640:66: error: no matching function for call to 'qBound(double, qreal, qreal)' [08:25] should be a simple case of adding a qreal() [08:25] I have a missing library here [08:25] opencv 2.3 seems to have shuffled them a bit [08:25] I'll pass it onto our potential digikam packager [08:26] pitti: yeah, they were broken out into multiple libraries, adri2000 did a test rebuild [08:51] hey [08:52] bonjour seb128 [08:52] hey pitti, wie gehts? [08:53] seb128: gut, danke! [08:53] happy Valentine's day everyone! [08:53] thanks, you as well ;-) [08:53] * pitti happily munches some chocolate muffins that Netti baked for me [08:54] pitti, ;-) [08:55] we were on a more pragmatical way: just a dinner on saturday :) [08:57] ... and nobody reminded me of the reminder this morning *sob* [09:00] * didrocks will make an indicator for pitti :) [09:00] I'd just need to add this to my calendar :) [09:00] but I feel loved so much more if you guys remind me :) [09:01] pitti, it's meeting reminder day! [09:01] ahah, ok, gotcha, will not miss it! :) [09:01] * pitti hugs seb128 [09:01] ;-) [09:01] * seb128 hugs pitti [09:01] pitti, sorry I was looking at the g-s-d update bug to see if there were any comment during the night [09:01] seems not [09:01] "sorry"? [09:01] didn't try it yet, will do in a sec [09:02] pitti, lol, no worry I don't plan to upload today anyway, rather tomorrow [09:03] pitti, it was just a subtle way to let people know that the new g-s-d is in the desktop ppa if anyone feels like installing it [09:03] pitti, I will put a note on the meeting page as well [09:03] yes, absolutely [09:07] seb128: does this already use the new wacom? [09:10] pitti, yes [09:12] seb128: tried it in a guest session (can't restart until this huge package build is done) [09:12] seb128: only thing I noticed is that clicking on "wacom settings" in g-c-c crashes g-c-c [09:12] I guess that'll need a corresponding g-c-c update [09:13] otherwise I played around with monitor config [09:13] once I can restart, I'll check keyboard settings [09:13] pitti, yeah likely for the wacom icon [09:13] ok [09:13] xrandr is a bit better I think here [09:14] I used to see my wallpaper in "grid" at login (the login screen is in mirror so has a lower resolution than my external screen) [09:14] i.e the login screen resolution with mosaic rendering of it again on side and bottom [09:14] that seems to not happen with the new one [09:15] one thing that still happens is that I still see two trash can icons even after disabling the internal monitor [09:15] but this sounds like a unity bug rather [09:15] it doesn't happen in my session (with an existing monitors.xml) [09:15] just in guest (which starts up in clone mode) === nuthinking_ is now known as nuthinking [10:12] hey all ... [10:12] hey rickspencer3 [10:12] I just had a full on graphics freeze [10:12] hey rickspencer3 [10:12] I seem to recall tehre was some great wiki documention about how to helpd ebug that [10:12] does someone have a link handy? [10:13] err, I'm looking at the gtk+ 3 patches in ubuntu, and, hrm, I don't understand 015_default-fallback-icon-theme.patch [10:13] (since I've gone multi-monitor, I notice xorg and unity are a bit less happy) [10:13] why do you patch this instead of using /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini ? [10:13] hi pitti and seb128 and vuntz :) [10:13] yo rickspencer3 [10:14] rickspencer3: perhps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze ? [10:14] pitti, looks exactly right! [10:15] vuntz, lut, ca va bien ? [10:15] vuntz, what is /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini? no such file or directory here [10:15] vuntz, is there a similar file for gtk2? [10:15] seb128: just create the file :-) [10:15] vuntz, what is the syntax? is it documented somewhere? [10:16] seb128: it's like /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc [10:16] * vuntz finds the link [10:16] seb128: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html [10:16] vuntz, thanks [10:17] seb128: let me show what we use in openSUSE [10:17] vuntz, speaking of opensuse I'm sure you told me that in the past but where I can look at your patches or packaging? ;-) [10:17] seb128: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/25892884 [10:18] vuntz, 'ci [10:18] seb128: it's all documented at http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/DistributionLocations :-) [10:18] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=openSUSE%3AFactory is what you want [10:18] vuntz, oh, distributions.freedesktop.org, is that new? ;-) [10:18] seems to be down right now, obviously [10:18] nah, it's not new [10:19] yeah, doesn't reply [10:19] vuntz, thanks, useful pointer ... does your settings.ini means that without gsd your get adwaita anyway? [10:20] it should, at least [10:20] I think I tried that a while ago [10:20] vuntz, I wonder if fedora does the same and that's why people don't see nautilus loosing its theme when gsd segfault [10:20] I'm still puzzled because it seems to happen only to us [10:20] well segfault or is stopped [10:20] vuntz, thanks for the tips! [10:29] tjaalton: hi :) are the latest pre-releases of gstreamer core/base/good/bad/ugly in ubuntu now? [10:30] slomo: the ones from last week,yes [10:30] tjaalton: great, thanks :) [10:30] tjaalton: if you're interested we could maintain them on git.debian.org in separate ubuntu branches... might make merging in the future easier [10:31] slomo: yeah I have them locally [10:31] on a branch [10:32] tjaalton: if you sign up on alioth.debian.org i can add you to pkg-gstreamer and we could have it all in one place [10:32] slomo: I'm there already, tjaalton-guest [10:32] hopefully soon s/-guest// :) [10:34] tjaalton: ok, added you :) please name the ubuntu specific branch "ubuntu" and base it on the current "experimental" branch [10:35] is there any way for an application to tell if the video driver is using exa? [10:35] slomo: ok I'll push them at some point [10:43] chrisccoulson: No, I don't believe so. [10:45] RAOF, ah, never mind [10:45] we want to test for a very specific condition in firefox (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716036#c20) [10:45] Mozilla bug 716036 in Layout "css z-ordering renders invisible text on google search page" [Normal,New: ] [11:03] chrisccoulson: Mmm, bugs in the 16BPP EXA implementation? No wonder no-one's hit it :) [11:26] RAOF, i'm wondering if the bug is actually specific to the imx driver, but i'm not sure how to prove that [11:36] seb128, hi [11:36] hey ricotz, how are you? [11:36] i merged your g-s-d [11:36] thanks, i am quite fine [11:36] how are you [11:36] ? [11:38] and there could be removed at lot of Makefile.in stuff, like 1500 lines [11:38] I'm good thanks [11:38] ricotz, oh right, I forgot to clean those, will do before upload [11:38] ricotz, does it work correctly for you otherwise? [11:38] and a small issue with gnome-settings-daemon.install [11:39] ricotz, not listing a .sh? [11:39] seb128, i am running it currently, but only with the datetime revert patch enabled [11:39] the input.sh stuff? I'm not sure we wanted,need that [11:39] ricotz, ok [11:40] yeah this example script [11:40] otherwise it runs fine [11:40] the libcolor problem is gone [11:41] ricotz, do you need the example script for something? or it's just because it's showing in list-missing? [11:41] ricotz, the hang issue? [11:41] i havent spotted a great difference though [11:41] maybe it was related to another lib/app [11:41] yes, the freeze [11:41] ricotz, right, I workaround it by dropping -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions from the LDFLAGS [11:42] ricotz, same issue than gnome-bluetooth and other GNOME stuff [11:42] oh, interesting [11:42] they don't know how to handle their symbols correctly [11:42] like the symbols get defined in different binaries and -Bsymbolic-functions don't like it [11:42] it's a bug on their side still, we just workaround it [11:42] i see [11:43] i am wondering if i ran into the same issue with gdm 3.2 [11:43] since there were similar symptoms [11:45] ricotz, could be try the same ld trick in the rules [11:45] ok besides the Makefile.in and script thing, i only added --disable-systemd [11:45] good idea, will do it as well [11:45] thanks for the feedback [11:45] not a lot of visible changes... yes but some bug fixes and some nice improvements in theory [11:45] what I wanted especially was the xrandr dock station work [11:46] pitti: small question about apport for non genuine ubuntu package. (from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo) [11:46] seb128, no problem [11:46] the keybindings xinput2 handle is nice as well, it should fix some old bug and handle better special cases like use of usb or bluetooth devices [11:46] pitti: I just need to add the code snippet to my already existing def add_info(report, ui): [11:46] seb128, yeah, good to have it updated [11:46] isn't it? [11:46] didrocks: what are you trying to do? [11:47] seb128, on the other hand the changes in g-c-c are getting kind of ugly :\ [11:47] seb128, hey [11:47] pitti: basically for the unity-team/ppa packages, to enable peope to report bugs with ubuntu-bug unity [11:47] pitti: and get those tagged [11:47] ricotz, like? it's next to review on my list [11:47] ronoc, hello [11:47] seb128, i merge these change, but i am tempted to disable them for my ppa [11:47] seb128, diwic and I as you well know are trying to find out how to play the startup sound in the most convenient way [11:48] ricotz, you mean the ubuntu changes or upstream 3.4? [11:48] seb128, the overview changes, bigger icons and separators [11:48] the ubuntu changes [11:48] seb128, i have a branch here which has the necessary code in place [11:48] ricotz, oh, right, design... [11:48] ~cjcurran/unity-greeter/play-synchronised-start-up-sound/ [11:48] seb128, this isnt look good [11:48] seb128, we are having problems though with canberra not able to recognize the ubuntu theme [11:48] ronoc, cool, can you merge propose it? [11:49] ricotz, well visual look is a matter of taste, some users commented on the bug to say they love how it looks now [11:49] seb128, i can but i would like to prove that canberra can find the ubuntu sounds before merging [11:49] or do you want me to merge it in [11:49] ricotz, ideally we would tweak the look only under unity [11:49] seb128, also the gnome-icon-theme doesnt contain the icons for the "separators" [11:49] and then we can figure that out afterwards [11:49] canberra-gtk-play requires gtk-sound-theme-name=ubuntu [11:49] didrocks: you can use what /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_ubuntuone-client.py does [11:49] didrocks: drop the "ThirdParty" bit, that's obsolete [11:49] ricotz, shouldn't it fallback by dropping the - [11:49] ? [11:50] didrocks: but you can set/append report['Tags'] if you wish [11:50] seb128, it shows some default "terminal-window" icon [11:50] pitti: ah nice, let me try it! :) [11:50] pitti: ok, without the ThirdParty then [11:50] ricotz, seems a bug, it should fallback [11:50] didrocks: the package needs to ship a crash db conf file like /etc/apport/crashdb.conf.d/ubuntuone-client-crashdb.conf, though (bug 551330 is about making this easier) [11:50] Launchpad bug 551330 in apport "allow defining crashdb inline within the report" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/551330 [11:50] channel is crazy now :p [11:51] ronoc, diwic: is that a libcanberra bug? [11:51] :) [11:51] pitti: it's not really a "crash" db, isn't it? as it won't have symbols to retrace? [11:51] seb128, we think so [11:51] ronoc, don't "merge" anything, just merge propose for review [11:51] ok will do that now [11:51] seb128, I'm trying to figure out the best way to tell libcanberra that [11:51] didrocks: read it as "place to send problem reports to" [11:51] pitti: but ok, it's basically the documentation minus the ThirdParty part then :) [11:51] pitti: ok, excellent! Thanks a lot :) [11:52] seb128, I found that you could ship a /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini file, are you familiar with that? [11:52] this worked for diwic but not for me [11:52] diwic, yes, vuntz mentioned earlier for the icon theme [11:53] seb128, if this proved to be a viable solution would you be happy with this sort of fix [11:53] ronoc, yes [11:53] cool [11:53] ronoc, I'm trying to understand the issue though [11:54] basically canberra will not identify ubuntu as a valid theme [11:54] ronoc, why not? [11:55] ronoc, there is a /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/index.theme [11:55] seb128, jfyi http://i.imgur.com/yt1M9.jpg [11:55] that's what we are trying to figure out [11:55] ronoc, shouldn't it consider all the /usr/share/sounds themes? [11:55] you would think so [11:55] ricotz, yeah, buggy, the scrollbars shouldn't show as well [11:56]