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| smoser | adam_g, https://launchpad.net/uec-testing-scripts | 00:46 |
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| adam_g | SpamapS: ping | 01:24 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: pong! | 01:31 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: working thru some nova database issues again.. maybe you can shed some light on this to a total lamer (me). if i run the same set of db migrations against a MyISAM backed mysql server and a InnoDB backed server, i end up with two totally different schemas wrt foreign key constraints. myisam ends up the wild west, and innodb creates a schema that is tightly locked down. | 01:41 |
| adam_g | see: http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/schema/myisam/relationships.html | 01:41 |
| adam_g | vs: http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/schema/innodb/relationships.html | 01:41 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: MyISAM has no such thing as FK constraints.. | 01:44 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: so its my guess that the code that does the migrating is just being weird. | 01:45 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: hmm, okay this sounds more obvious that i thought :) | 01:49 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: right | 01:52 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: perhaps the migratino code is assuming that because the table is already there, that its relationships will just be there? | 01:53 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: well, the big problem is that the migrations are being developed against sqlite, or at best, mysql+myisam (on oneiric). there are assumptions made, yeah.. | 01:55 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: curious, did the switch to innodb by default come from debian, or us? | 01:56 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: it came from MySQL 5.1 -> 5.5, which was done in Debian.. by me. ;) | 02:00 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: and its truly the *ONLY* sane path to ever take. MyISAM is *crack* | 02:01 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: i dont doubt that, just wonder how many others will have similar problems | 02:02 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: perhaps the right thing to do is to open a bug against openstack that it should refuse to create tables in anything except InnoDB. | 02:03 |
| adam_g | SpamapS: heh | 02:03 |
| SpamapS | adam_g: and in migrating.. it should detect myisam tables and recreate *all* relationahips | 02:03 |
| SpamapS | relationships too | 02:03 |
| adam_g | actually, at some point in its migration it converts all tables to innodb | 02:03 |
| adam_g | but im not sure how sqlalchemy handles that, though | 02:04 |
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| SpamapS | adam_g: right, so when it is doing that, it needs to say "oh crap, I'm converting from a table engine that has no relationships definable.. I need to re-create them" | 02:05 |
| adam_g | yup | 02:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #931859 in nagios3 (main) "chown: cannot access `/etc/nagios3/resource.cfg': No such file or directory" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931859 | 03:16 |
| axisys | how do I check if a dir is mounted .. would be nice if we can count on a exit code or exit codes | 04:03 |
| axisys | exit 32 seems to be when fails or already mounted .. from what I understand | 04:04 |
| axisys | so hard to differentiate what really the mount problem is | 04:04 |
| axisys | mount /foo; case $? in 0|32) run_bar;; esac did ran `run_bar' even though /foo failed to mount | 04:06 |
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| Stef2 | 'morning. any1 on and willing to answer noob questions? | 06:21 |
| Stef2 | :) | 06:21 |
| Stef2 | ~o) included | 06:22 |
| twb | !anyone | 06:22 |
| ubottu | A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 06:22 |
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| Stef2 | it doesn't say in title if i can ask noob q and it is better to ask first. sorry for this. after i installed successfuly ubuntu 11.10 server without GUI i tryed separatly to install xubuntu gui. i don't know/guess it installed properly becouse some files in /lib/something didn't get "registered" properly. now i get an error an ubuntu start "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not... | 06:30 |
| Stef2 | ...ready yet or not present". looked in here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/527666 but it seems to be an old bug. the start process stops on Checking battery state... [OK]. what should i do to check what's wrong? | 06:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 527666 in mountall "mountall blocks on timeout waiting for a partition, rather than supplying prompt and picking it up later" [High,Fix released] | 06:30 |
| twb | Stef2: is this a fresh install? | 06:32 |
| Stef2 | yes | 06:33 |
| twb | Reinstall from scratch. Either install xubuntu to begin with, or install server and don't install a GUI. | 06:33 |
| twb | We recommend learning to manage servers from the CLI; we discourage installing a GUI on servers. | 06:34 |
| Stef2 | installed server. restart. installed xubuntu. got error woth /lib/something. restart. server stops at Checking battery state... [OK]. ubove couple lines i get /dev/.. error | 06:34 |
| Stef2 | i somehow know that, but i guessed it will help me in learning process of CLI | 06:36 |
| twb | I understand what happened but I can't diagnose it, let alone fix it, over IRC. There is no point bothering since a clean install has no investment that will be lost (e.g. apps already set up, user data) | 06:36 |
| Stef2 | i understand and agree with u, but (no offense intended at any kind) i am the problem solver somehow. i try to understand what i did/miss so i can try nto to repeat the mistake. i understand and agree the GUI problem. i hoped some1 will point me to an place so i can look at the problem. hope i'm not missunderstood. thnx for the answer :) | 06:42 |
| twb | The problem is probably just that mountall is crap, and when you tried to install xubuntu you missed some helper package that makes it work properly. | 06:44 |
| twb | cryptsetup is normally used for block-level encryption (LUKS), but you are probably either using no encryption or per-file (ecryptfs) encryption, so I don't see how you're running into that. | 06:44 |
| twb | upstart in general and mounting issues with upstart are a huge pain to debug | 06:45 |
| Stef2 | ai first install , installer asked me if i want to encrypt user files (my user files). and i choose yes | 06:45 |
| Stef2 | *at first install | 06:45 |
| SpamapS | twb: should be easier with newer releases | 06:46 |
| SpamapS | twb: but really, mountall isn't that bad. | 06:46 |
| twb | It drove me batshit insane trying to boot off NFS on lucid | 06:47 |
| SpamapS | twb: thats a use case that still doesn't really have a stakeholder in Ubuntu | 06:47 |
| twb | IOW nobody is paying canonical to not fuck it up? | 06:48 |
| SpamapS | We do lots of stuff that nobody pays us for | 06:48 |
| twb | Because of course it Just Works under sysv init | 06:48 |
| twb | And it was pretty painless under hardy for that matter. | 06:49 |
| SpamapS | But yeah, its been pushed to the bottom of the pile a few times. | 06:49 |
| SpamapS | twb: this would be something to bring up at UDS.. you just need a few interested users who are willing to be annoying about the bugs that need fixing and it will get done. | 06:50 |
| twb | I do not deal well with meatspace | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | Sad to say.. but I'm quite susceptible to the 'squeaky wheel' method of bug prioritization.. and so are many others in ubuntu-core-dev | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | twb: just attend virtually :) | 06:52 |
| twb | Wasn't UDS a in last November or so anyway? | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | for precise yeah | 06:52 |
| twb | Somebody invited me to florida and I was "noooo, I do not go near .us" | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | twb: next one is in May also in .us .. in Oakland, CA | 06:53 |
| SpamapS | then back to EU/US rotation | 06:53 |
| SpamapS | twb: anyway, UDS is just a thought. Really.. if you want those bugs fixed you just need to ping me/slangasek/jodh .. we're quite responsive to the vocal minority when it comes to boot bugs | 06:56 |
| twb | Righto | 06:56 |
| twb | Part of the problem is that *my* machines run Debian, so while I deal with Debian problems as they arise, I only encounter ubuntu-specific issues after they hit LTS | 06:57 |
| twb | (LTS being what my customers ask for, after I tell them they can't have RHEL.) | 06:57 |
| SpamapS | twb: we fix the LTS from time to time. :-P | 06:57 |
| twb | Yes, well, I don't turn backports on because I don't trust not to introduce new and exciting issues :-P | 06:58 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid ... only 116 open High importance bugs | 06:58 |
| twb | RC status doesn't matter after the release amirite ? :P | 06:59 |
| SpamapS | no such thing as "release critical" in Ubuntu. Critical means "the first things we deal with" | 07:00 |
| SpamapS | unless our CDs eat your data or just won't boot.. we release on time (dapper, for example, did not ship on time, because it basically didn't work and needed 2 more months) | 07:01 |
| twb | Hehe "release when its ready" vs "release when it's not ready" | 07:01 |
| SpamapS | We release when *we* are ready... which is generally known to be about every 6 months | 07:01 |
| SpamapS | twb: for the LTS we even cut new CDs after we fix the critical bugs that we couldn't get to by "release day" | 07:03 |
| SpamapS | so it kind of works a little more like a Debian release | 07:03 |
| tarvid | I have a neglected server on karmic, can't update. Should I attempt an upgrade to lucid? | 07:05 |
| SpamapS | tarvid: yes | 07:05 |
| SpamapS | tarvid: backup first | 07:05 |
| twb | SpamapS: eh, I do my installs from netboot d-i anyway | 07:06 |
| twb | !eol | 07:07 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 07:07 |
| twb | tarvid: second link there | 07:07 |
| Stef2 | started reinstall server. got at the point where installer ask me if i want to encrypt home directory. can i presume that my previous error started from the encryption part and now i should choose option to not encrypt my Home directory? | 07:23 |
| twb | Recommend choose no, at least for now | 07:26 |
| twb | If everything seems to be working you could try another reinstall and pick yes | 07:26 |
| Stef2 | thnx for the answer. i'll do that. first time i choose yes and it worked. got errors after i installed xubuntu | 07:27 |
| SpamapS | Stef2: why aren't you installing *xubuntu* if you want xubuntu? | 07:30 |
| twb | SpamapS: he wants a server with a GUI on it :-( | 07:30 |
| twb | 17:33 <twb> Reinstall from scratch. Either install xubuntu to begin with, or install server and don't install a GUI. | 07:31 |
| SpamapS | server with gui.. hah | 07:31 |
| SpamapS | saving yourself 1 day of frustration for years of slow, manual labor. | 07:31 |
| Stef2 | i didn't installed GUI from the first time. i got the error when i installed GUI separatly. but now i wont even try to install GUI anymore. | 07:32 |
| * SpamapS feels the other way.. he wonders why his desktop has a GUI | 07:32 | |
| Syria | Hi, does this mena that guest additions are now installed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/841373/ | 07:37 |
| twb | SpamapS: mine doesn't | 07:37 |
| twb | My local LUG asked me to give a talk on how to not cry like a little girl when using fbcon for everything, but I didn't want to go outside | 07:38 |
| twb | Syria: dkms is just infrastructure | 07:38 |
| twb | Syria: normally you would "apt-get install foo-dkms" to get a DKMS-based third-party kernel module called "foo" | 07:39 |
| Stef2 | would be better if i choose to install software like dns server, lamp server and so on separately or i should install them from start and configure after? | 07:39 |
| Syria | twb: I want to install guest additions so I can run CD Rom from the Windows virtual machine. | 07:39 |
| twb | Syria: I don't know what that means | 07:39 |
| twb | Stef2: I never pick anything like that until I know the server can actually boot | 07:40 |
| Stef2 | thnx for tip | 07:40 |
| twb | Stef2: I don't like that UI anyway but you can rerun it later, it's called "tasksel" | 07:40 |
| twb | Stef2: I prefer to just use apt-get/aptitude | 07:40 |
| Syria | twb: I have a virtual windows machine and the host is ubuntu server 10.04.3 ... I want to read the CD from the virtual machine.. What shoud I do please? | 07:46 |
| twb | No idea, I don't support Windows. | 07:47 |
| Syria | Thank you. | 07:48 |
| SpamapS | wow erlang takes a long time to build. :-P | 08:07 |
| SpamapS | I always forget that :-P | 08:07 |
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| Syria | Somebody help me please... I have a windows virtual machine and it is hosted bu ubuntu server.. how can I read cd's thorugh the virtual machine? | 08:21 |
| Jeeves_ | Syria: That depends on your management tool | 08:28 |
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| Syria | Jeeves_: Virtual Box not the ose edition. | 08:32 |
| Jeeves_ | Oh, no clue then :) | 08:36 |
| Syria | Jeeves_: Thanks. | 08:40 |
| _ruben | most virtualization tools make it fairly trivial to provide cds to its vms, then again, i never used vbox either :) | 08:44 |
| Stef2 | !details | 08:46 |
| ubottu | Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 08:46 |
| Stef2 | !gq | 08:47 |
| ubottu | Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question. | 08:47 |
| Stef2 | !poll | 08:47 |
| ubottu | Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. | 08:47 |
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| lynxman | morning o/ | 10:00 |
| jamespage | morning lynxman | 10:05 |
| lynxman | jamespage: good morning sir! | 10:06 |
| linocisco | hi every one | 10:23 |
| linocisco | my ISP internet needs us to set proxy in browser to use internet. I would like to bypass this settings using ubuntu server. | 10:23 |
| linocisco | how to accomplish? | 10:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #931978 in samba (main) "Update to version 3.6.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931978 | 10:36 |
| ludo89 | Hi | 11:07 |
| ludo89 | i've got a question about tcpdump output on one of the interfaces of my firewall. | 11:08 |
| ludo89 | i've got this : | 11:08 |
| ludo89 | 11:59:46.827529 00:1c:2e:84:7e:00 > 09:00:09:00:00:67 Unknown DSAP 0xf8 Unnumbered, ui, Flags [Command], length 97 | 11:08 |
| ludo89 | any idea of what "Unknown DSAP 0xf8 Unnumbered" means ? | 11:09 |
| lynxman | ludo89: http://serverfault.com/questions/202777/what-do-unknown-ssap-and-unknown-dsap-mean-in-tcpdump | 11:14 |
| ludo89 | lynxman: Thanks a lot for your link ! | 11:32 |
| CasmoNL | Hi, even after removing sendmail (with apt-get, running Ubuntu 10.04), it's still running, is there any way to completely disable it? Googling didn't help me that much.. | 11:56 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: here | 12:08 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, yep | 12:09 |
| koolhead11 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/841726 | 12:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 841726 in cobbler "Unable to netboot with dhcpd managed by cobbler" [Medium,Fix released] | 12:09 |
| koolhead11 | status says fixed released | 12:09 |
| koolhead11 | i have wasted almost whole day on thios | 12:09 |
| koolhead11 | and then found about this bug | 12:09 |
| koolhead11 | cobbler profile loads without any problem | 12:10 |
| koolhead11 | its cobbler system which got screwed up | 12:10 |
| koolhead11 | after i did cobbler sync | 12:11 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: gimme few minute i will paste my cobbler config and dhcp template file | 12:12 |
| koolhead11 | poor virtulbox | 12:14 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, ack | 12:16 |
| koolhead11 | so manage_dhcp: 0 inside /etc/cobbler/settings | 12:18 |
| koolhead11 | now when i added a system and later did cobbler sync | 12:18 |
| koolhead11 | i see something interesting | 12:18 |
| koolhead11 | inside my dhcpd.conf file :P | 12:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #932021 in mysql-5.1 (universe) "service mysql start hangs forever without any messages if the configuration is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932021 | 12:21 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/841616/ | 12:21 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, can I see a log of the sync please | 12:22 |
| jamespage | also I don't think cobbler will actively stop managing you dhcp file | 12:22 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: sure | 12:22 |
| jamespage | i.e. it will leave stuff around that it created | 12:23 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, are you running on precise or oneiric? | 12:23 |
| koolhead11 | oneiric | 12:24 |
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| koolhead11 | jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/841623/ cobbler sync | 12:25 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, and what does you dhcpd.conf file have in it now? I specialize mine quite alot for my local network topology/setup | 12:26 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, I seem to have done: | 12:27 |
| jamespage | #filename "$iface.filename"; | 12:27 |
| jamespage | filename "pxelinux.0"; | 12:27 |
| jamespage | ## Cobbler defaults to $next_s | 12:27 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: nopes its plain DHCP file with my dhcp network info and this "system" infos | 12:27 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: yeah these options | 12:27 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, so what exactly is not working for you? | 12:28 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: gpxe/menu.gpxe | 12:29 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, thats not going to work - thats the bug | 12:30 |
| jamespage | you need to change: filename "pxelinux.0"; | 12:30 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: yeah i did that, then did cobbler sync | 12:31 |
| koolhead11 | still no luck i will try again | 12:31 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, so manage_dhcp: 0 inside /etc/cobbler/settings? | 12:31 |
| jamespage | won't have any effect :-) | 12:31 |
| koolhead11 | gosh. lemme make it 1 | 12:32 |
| koolhead11 | but in that case wont i have to add the same configs inside that file as well | 12:32 |
| koolhead11 | i meant dhcp.template | 12:35 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, so if you tell cobbler to manage your dhcp configuration it will overwrite the dhcpd.conf file | 12:37 |
| jamespage | so ONLY makes changes in dhcp.template | 12:37 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage: so i should remove all the configuration i added on dhcpd.conf ? | 12:38 |
| koolhead11 | and paste the same inside the dhcp.template file | 12:38 |
| jamespage | koolhead11, you need to ensure that the cobbler dhcp.template contains all of the right configuration for your setup | 12:39 |
| jamespage | + the fix for filename "pxelinux.0"; | 12:39 |
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| koolhead11 | jamespage: could there be some cache or something? am still getting same error | 12:42 |
| koolhead11 | shall i add a new system by removing this | 12:43 |
| koolhead11 | ? | 12:43 |
| koolhead11 | and test if it works | 12:43 |
| melvincv | what does the -C option in tar do? | 13:00 |
| TeTeT | melvincv: man tar, -C, --directory DIR | 13:10 |
| TeTeT | change to directory DIR | 13:10 |
| koolhead11 | hola TeTeT :) | 13:32 |
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| TeTeT | hi koolhead11, how are you? | 14:10 |
| koolhead11 | am doing good how about you? | 14:11 |
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| Ursinha | I thought I would chair the meeting today, but that's not what the wiki page says...? | 15:21 |
| Aerodonkey | What is this meeting about? Sorry that I'm new here. | 15:22 |
| Ursinha | Aerodonkey, it's the server team weekly meeting, where we discuss server related stuff :) and welcome :) | 15:24 |
| koolhead11 | Ursinha: how much time we have before it starts :) | 15:24 |
| Ursinha | koolhead11, in 35 minutes, if calendar isn't lying to me | 15:25 |
| * koolhead11 will grab his dinner in meantime | 15:25 | |
| Aerodonkey | I have problems when running Ubuntu instance on Amazon EC2. May I ask questions here? | 15:27 |
| Tixos | someone please please help me with page load times | 15:37 |
| Tixos | getting some results of 20,000ms/request | 15:37 |
| Tixos | cant figure it out | 15:37 |
| Aerodonkey | what page? memory page, or web page? | 15:38 |
| Tixos | its a web page, its defaintely apache causing it, the server response is very fast | 15:39 |
| Tixos | i used 'httperf' | 15:39 |
| Tixos | nothing to do with the web page btw, its default apache | 15:39 |
| patdk-wk | what is the web page? | 15:39 |
| patdk-wk | a static html file? | 15:39 |
| Tixos | it was fine on centos, i feel its ubuntus default apache configs | 15:39 |
| Tixos | yes it is static html | 15:39 |
| Tixos | port 443 is fine | 15:39 |
| patdk-wk | is it on the internet? can I test? | 15:40 |
| Tixos | been testing for 2 days now lol | 15:40 |
| Tixos | sec | 15:40 |
| Tixos | ill PM | 15:40 |
| Tixos | i also tried 'ab' apache benchmarking, horrific results lol | 15:40 |
| Tixos | i would blame DNS as i have just changed servers, but using IP is just the same | 15:41 |
| patdk-wk | na, it's physically on that system somewhere | 15:42 |
| Tixos | try ab -c 10 -n 100 IP patdk-wk | 15:43 |
| Tixos | server like 110ms, processing 10,000ms lol | 15:43 |
| patdk-wk | why should I? | 15:43 |
| patdk-wk | that doesn't prove or help anything | 15:43 |
| Tixos | ok? | 15:43 |
| Tixos | to me it proves its taking too long to respond? | 15:43 |
| Tixos | no point in using a browser right? with caching etc, these two apps tell me better | 15:44 |
| patdk-wk | what apache modules are enabled? | 15:44 |
| Tixos | sec | 15:44 |
| Tixos | 'default' | 15:44 |
| Tixos | but let me get list | 15:44 |
| patdk-wk | I dunno what default is | 15:44 |
| Tixos | http://pastebin.com/TencnaS0 | 15:45 |
| Tixos | i disabled 'mod_reqtimeout, because it was causing lots of 408s because of this issue | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | what kind of server is this? | 15:46 |
| Tixos | basically, its a brand new server, ubuntu 10.04LTS 'default' install | 15:46 |
| Tixos | dedicated | 15:46 |
| Tixos | its getting alot of traffic | 15:46 |
| patdk-wk | did you try vmstat? | 15:46 |
| patdk-wk | or iostat? | 15:46 |
| Tixos | so i guess ubuntus default apache.conf isnt good enough | 15:46 |
| Tixos | no, never heard of them | 15:47 |
| patdk-wk | I dunno about good enough, I haven't had any issues with it | 15:47 |
| patdk-wk | well, how do you ever locate an issue? | 15:47 |
| Tixos | ive never had a problem in 2 years on centos | 15:47 |
| patdk-wk | for all we know, your harddrive is dead | 15:47 |
| Tixos | no man, it was fine before it received traffic | 15:48 |
| Tixos | its happened on 2 ubuntu servers | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | harddrive overloaded then :) | 15:48 |
| Tixos | i moved from one provider because i thought it was 'them' | 15:48 |
| Tixos | turns out its ubuntu | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | do "vmstat 1" | 15:48 |
| Tixos | or a config rather | 15:48 |
| Tixos | ok sec | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | let it run for like 20seconds, and past it | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | pastebin it | 15:48 |
| Tixos | http://pastebin.com/1MMjDYjy | 15:49 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, now I can't connect | 15:49 |
| patdk-wk | how about a, netstat -atn | 15:49 |
| patdk-wk | that is going dump a lot of lines though | 15:50 |
| Tixos | should i | less it ? | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | na | 15:50 |
| Tixos | or file output | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | netstat -atn | pastebinit | 15:50 |
| Tixos | netstat -atn > file.txt | 15:50 |
| Tixos | ? | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | pastebinit is lazy way :) | 15:50 |
| Tixos | but thats what you mean right? lol | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | ya | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | I'm thinking you maxed out your apache connections | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | default is 256 | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | and with a 15second keepalive I think | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | normally changing keepalive down to 1 second is good | 15:52 |
| patdk-wk | it looks like you have enough ram to increase that 256limit also, if needed | 15:52 |
| Tixos | yea i thought this, because i compared my centos httpd.conf, and the onyl difference really was the MPM settings for prefork | 15:52 |
| Tixos | and also keepalive is off on that server | 15:52 |
| Tixos | ill PM you link | 15:53 |
| patdk-wk | ya, you need generic tuning | 15:53 |
| Tixos | so keepalive = 1 is better than off? | 15:53 |
| patdk-wk | keepalive off or 1sec will help it | 15:53 |
| Tixos | could you guide me? | 15:53 |
| patdk-wk | I would perfer 1sec | 15:53 |
| Tixos | ok let me give it a whirl | 15:53 |
| Tixos | should i up anything in perfork ? | 15:54 |
| patdk-wk | cause it only wastes it for 1 sec, but then they get all the pictures and stuff quick | 15:54 |
| patdk-wk | you have craploads of free ram | 15:54 |
| patdk-wk | so probably safe to double the max | 15:54 |
| Tixos | yes i know | 15:54 |
| patdk-wk | maybe more | 15:54 |
| patdk-wk | but I wouldn't put it higher than needed | 15:54 |
| Tixos | the server is decent enough, so thats why i was lost, this is all a bit beyond me but i done alot of reading :P | 15:54 |
| Tixos | i read 256 is the higher? | 15:55 |
| Tixos | or is that for worker or something ? | 15:55 |
| patdk-wk | I dunno, what one you have installed? | 15:55 |
| patdk-wk | apache2-prefork, apache2-worker, ... | 15:55 |
| Tixos | well, again lol by 'default' i didnt install either | 15:55 |
| Tixos | but it has both sections in the config | 15:55 |
| Tixos | same as centos does | 15:55 |
| patdk-wk | how many apache2 programs do you see? | 15:56 |
| patdk-wk | worker should have like 2-4 | 15:56 |
| Tixos | programs? | 15:56 |
| patdk-wk | prefork will have like 200 or so in your server | 15:56 |
| patdk-wk | ps ax | 15:56 |
| Tixos | sec | 15:56 |
| Tixos | /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start there is about 100 of these? | 15:57 |
| Tixos | maybe more | 15:57 |
| patdk-wk | then your using prefork | 15:57 |
| Tixos | ok | 15:57 |
| Tixos | these are my centos settings, so i give these a go? | 15:57 |
| Tixos | http://pastebin.com/i8Rz3ind | 15:57 |
| Tixos | if you get the httperf time/request down i will love you forever :) | 15:58 |
| Tixos | so far 4 people couldnt help :) | 15:58 |
| Tixos | sidenote: what is the correct way to reload configs when changing apache.conf. reload, restart or stop/start? | 15:59 |
| patdk-wk | depends | 15:59 |
| EvilResistance | Tixos, i'm unfamiliar with Apache, but if its anything line nginx's nginx.conf (which controls the instance of nginx and not the sites), i'd assume restart | 15:59 |
| patdk-wk | I normally just restart | 16:00 |
| EvilResistance | even when i was dabbling in Apache, i just used 'restart' | 16:00 |
| patdk-wk | but doing a reload is alittle more friendly | 16:00 |
| Tixos | yea i normally do | 16:00 |
| Tixos | im not feeling friendly :) | 16:00 |
| Tixos | so should i match those prefork settings patdk-wk ? | 16:00 |
| patdk-wk | hmm? | 16:00 |
| Tixos | let me pastebin both | 16:00 |
| Tixos | these are 'defaults' | 16:01 |
| Tixos | http://pastebin.com/HQRMPF2E | 16:01 |
| andrew667 | test | 16:02 |
| EvilResistance | i very very rarely feel friendly towards my systems, so i just use 'restart' for misbehaving things and rehashes of the config (so to speak) | 16:02 |
| patdk-wk | tixos, I would do this | 16:02 |
| patdk-wk | StartServers 50 | 16:02 |
| patdk-wk | MinSpareServers 20 | 16:03 |
| patdk-wk | MaxSpareServers 50 | 16:03 |
| patdk-wk | ServerLimit 300 | 16:03 |
| patdk-wk | MaxClients 300 | 16:03 |
| patdk-wk | and keepalive at like 1sec | 16:03 |
| patdk-wk | maybe increase the 300 to something larger if needed | 16:03 |
| Tixos | patdk-wk: your keepalive = 1 fixed it.. | 16:04 |
| Tixos | what are the pitfalls of this? | 16:04 |
| Tixos | its fine... totally fine | 16:04 |
| Tixos | Request rate: 4.3 req/s (234.3 ms/req) | 16:05 |
| patdk-wk | it's not fine | 16:05 |
| patdk-wk | it's *better* | 16:05 |
| Tixos | same as google for me :P | 16:05 |
| Tixos | yes i will fix prefork up like you say also | 16:05 |
| patdk-wk | keepalive is how long a client can *tie up resources* on your server, while waiting for the next page request | 16:05 |
| patdk-wk | before you had it off, so every thing needed a new connection, slow | 16:06 |
| Tixos | no it was on, but set @ 15 | 16:06 |
| patdk-wk | making it 1sec, basically means, they can download the page, and images, and js,css,.. all in one connection | 16:06 |
| Tixos | it was off on my centos server yes, but it was fast here | 16:06 |
| patdk-wk | then a new page will take a new connection | 16:06 |
| patdk-wk | so having it on, makes a page faster, but makes OTHER people wait | 16:06 |
| patdk-wk | since you maxed out how many connections you could have at once (150), all waiting around for 15sec, no one could connect | 16:07 |
| Tixos | yea, great man | 16:08 |
| Tixos | thanks so much :) | 16:08 |
| patdk-wk | your tests didn't see that, since you tests didn't use keepalive | 16:08 |
| Tixos | so if there is noneed for keepalive at all, it can be turned off, but 1-2 seconds if always better in your opinion? | 16:08 |
| patdk-wk | if you have webpages that are more than one item, (includes javascript, css, images, ...) I would keep it on | 16:09 |
| patdk-wk | it makes them display faster for the user | 16:09 |
| antihero | Hey, I can't install php5-memcached | 16:09 |
| patdk-wk | plus, the more distance the user is from you, the longer it would keep your server tied up, without keepalive | 16:09 |
| antihero | any ideas? (lucid) | 16:09 |
| antihero | it's here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/php5-memcached | 16:10 |
| antihero | but apt-get says it has no installation canddiate | 16:10 |
| Tixos | patdk-wk: would you use mod_reqtimeout, i disabled it, but it was installed by default, now this is fixed should i re-enable? | 16:12 |
| Tixos | it was giving tons of 408 errors | 16:12 |
| patdk-wk | I can't remember what it does | 16:12 |
| brendan0powers | jamespage: Hi, I have some questions about the debian/watch file | 16:16 |
| brendan0powers | jamespage: Aside from the man pages, I've fixed all of your comments | 16:16 |
| jamespage | brendan0powers, hi! | 16:17 |
| brendan0powers | jamespage: So, the watch file should point to a directory containing source releases? | 16:17 |
| jamespage | brendan0powers, typically a http location for a tar.gz of the source release | 16:18 |
| Tixos | ok, thanks patdk-wk much love :D | 16:18 |
| brendan0powers | I tried putting the exact file name I wanted, and got an error from uscan beacuse there was no pattern | 16:18 |
| brendan0powers | jamespage: and bitbucket does not support listing tags, so i can't use a wildcard for the URL | 16:19 |
| jamespage | brendan0powers, OK so that might not be practical then | 16:20 |
| brendan0powers | I could host the source somewhere else, I guess | 16:20 |
| brendan0powers | I mean, the .tar releases | 16:21 |
| jamespage | brendan0powers, if it looking hard ATM then I suggest you document in a README.source file how to create the orig.tar.gz file manually. | 16:22 |
| jamespage | that should be acceptable | 16:23 |
| * jamespage is not an archive admin | 16:23 | |
| jamespage | brendan0powers, that could involve documenting how to clone from bitbucket and create the orig.tar.gz | 16:29 |
| jamespage | which could be put in debian/rules | 16:30 |
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| mdeslaur | *sigh* looks like I have to push mysql 5.5.20 and 5.1.61 as security updates to our stable releases, as Oracle won't disclose what the security updates are :( | 16:45 |
| andol | mdeslaur: Making MariaDB seem even more tempting? | 16:46 |
| mdeslaur | andol: definitely | 16:46 |
| SpamapS | mdeslaur: have they confirmed that 5.5.20 and 5.1.61 *actually fix the problem* ? | 17:01 |
| mdeslaur | SpamapS: yes, those are the versions listed in the advisory | 17:01 |
| SpamapS | mdeslaur: Ok, I have 5.5.20 ready to go in Debian, so I can push that into precise just so precise isn't vulnerable if you like. | 17:02 |
| mdeslaur | SpamapS: yes, please, that would be awesome | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | mdeslaur: Ok I'll upload 5.5.20 later today... cool? | 17:02 |
| mdeslaur | SpamapS: yes, thanks! | 17:02 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | 17:06 |
| hallyn | jjohansen: I'm going to go and review some userns patches (some = >100 of them :), please ping me when I should be testing a apparmor+mounts patchset | 17:23 |
| jamespage | iamfuzz, hey - sorry but jenkins does not use gwt :-( | 17:24 |
| iamfuzz | jamespage, I didn't think so, but Andy told me that so I got excited :-) | 17:25 |
| iamfuzz | no worries, was just a stab | 17:25 |
| jjohansen | hallyn: hrmm, well I am packaging up a first run of the ppa now, but there will be some revisions throughout the day. I have full option matching that I am going to be testing and will roll out some time | 17:25 |
| jjohansen | hallyn: so if you want to play it will be available in an hour or so but changes, but later might be better | 17:26 |
| hallyn | jjohansen: ok, no problem - I"ll wait a bit, thanks. just ping me when i should look :) | 17:26 |
| jjohansen | hallyn: okay, btw full option matching means none of the limitations/concerns from the other day | 17:26 |
| hallyn | \o/ | 17:27 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #931584 in openldap "Upstart should close all non-standard fds before starting a job" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931584 | 17:38 |
| smoser | adam_g and Daviey , roaksoax looked at the big/small buckets thing. | 17:42 |
| smoser | he would know more. but he asserted upstream bug on that. | 17:42 |
| smoser | and i think that theh goal is to move to squid-deb-proxy, which wouldn't have these buckets (although maybe we could get them into s-d-p, as they are kind of nice, to have kind of one limit for ISOs and one limit for archive things). | 17:43 |
| ivoks | adam_g: i'm not sure how to request a merge cause LP doesn't allow me; but if you are interested, take a look at lp:~ivoks/charms/precise/nova-cloud-controler/trunk; adds public_interface to FlatDHCPManager | 17:49 |
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| koolhead17 | jamespage: you were correct :) | 18:00 |
| koolhead17 | am still at same issue!! :) | 18:01 |
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| smoser | utlemming, bug 932088 | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: hey, I'm working on updating rabbitmq-server to 2.7.1 .. | 18:22 |
| zul | SpamapS: pretty sure...its dependent on the rabbitmq-server | 18:22 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: might that affect your stomp packages? | 18:22 |
| zul | SpamapS: he might not be around either | 18:24 |
| SpamapS | zul: true, too late.. well I'll take a look at them | 18:26 |
| zul | SpamapS: k just wanted to give you a heads up | 18:26 |
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| med_ | I think lynxman is in flight. | 18:47 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #932239 in samba (main) "Multiple Samba security vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932239 | 18:48 |
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| antnash_ | Hi guys. Anyone able to give me any hints as to why my server becomes hideously unresponsive after being on for about 7 hours? | 18:53 |
| antnash_ | I have to power it off for 30s or so for it to actually come back to life, otherwise it hangs at bios while discovering disks | 18:55 |
| SpamapS | antnash_: anything in dmesg? perhaps something is throttling due to temperature? | 19:06 |
| antnash_ | Hey SpamapS. How can I check it after a reboot? | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | antnash_: great point. :) | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | antnash_: perhaps hook up another box as a serial console | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | antnash_: and make sure you boot with 'noquiet' so you get all messages on console | 19:09 |
| antnash_ | Hmm. Would if I had another box I could do it with, and knew how! | 19:10 |
| antnash_ | Of course the latter there is much less of a problem than the former | 19:10 |
| antnash_ | SpamapS, no way to check in system logs? | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | antnash_: /var/log/syslog would potentially have stuff too | 19:15 |
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| antnash_ | SpamapS, you were right. Throttling due to temp | 19:18 |
| antnash_ | Time to get a better cpu fan I think! | 19:18 |
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| zul | adam_g: im in the middle of the nova ubuntu/debian merge would you have complaints if i moved --connection=libvirt into the nova-{kvm,lxc,uml,qemu}.conf ? | 19:24 |
| zul | im tryin to figure out how to handle the nova-xen/nova-xcp/nova-libvirt stuff properly | 19:25 |
| adam_g | zul: thats where it should go, but there was a database migration that made it required that its defined on the node thats running 'nova-manage db sync' | 19:26 |
| adam_g | zul: i think that might have changed, though, gimme a minute ill check | 19:26 |
| zul | adam_g: k | 19:27 |
| adam_g | zul: heres the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/921294 | 19:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 921294 in nova "Migration 074 should not need connection_type defined if no data is present (new installs)" [High,Fix released] | 19:30 |
| zul | adam_g: k ill try it here first | 19:30 |
| adam_g | zul: i think | 19:32 |
| adam_g | zul: er, i think moving that is okay for new installs but not going to work for upgrades | 19:32 |
| zul | great now i have blood dribbling from my ears ;) | 19:32 |
| adam_g | read the bug | 19:33 |
| adam_g | zul: does debian keep that flag in the nova-compute-*.conf? | 19:40 |
| zul | no nova.conf | 19:40 |
| zul | but i think debian might be a bit broken right now | 19:41 |
| adam_g | zul: because they also support xcp? | 19:42 |
| zul | adam_g: yeah | 19:42 |
| adam_g | zul: that is why i raised the bug to begin with, i cant see how it'd be possible to support either without nova-common-{xcp, libvirt, etc} and corresponding compute packages. | 19:43 |
| adam_g | zul: if the flag is only set on the compute packages, and compute is running on seperate nodes, a database migration from any other node will end up migrated for xen, even if compute nodes are running libvirt. | 19:44 |
| zul | yeah im going to put off that problem for now and continue merging stuff here | 19:45 |
| adam_g | zul: if its set globally in nova.conf, it can be run from any node, but to support other hypervisors, we'll need an entire new subset of nova packages (not just compute) | 19:45 |
| zul | adam_g: agreed | 19:45 |
| gary_poster | hallyn, I have a container that I can start with lxc-start but when I try to use lxc-execute it gives me an error: "No such file or directory - failed to exec /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init" "invalid sequence number 1. expected 2". In the dim past (http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.containers.lxc.general/1734) you recommended copying over /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init to the guest (so /var/lib/lxc/lpdev/rootfs/usr/lib/lx | 19:51 |
| gary_poster | c/ for me). That dir in the guest does not exist for me. Do I need to start the container and install some packages there first, or do you have another suggestion? | 19:51 |
| Degot | Hi, Is there a way to automatically copy files to just attached USB Stick/HDD? | 19:57 |
| hallyn | gary_poster: stgraber's workaround is the best - install lxc in the guest | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | hallyn, ok cool thanks | 20:00 |
| stgraber | gary_poster: install it with --no-install-recommends though to avoid pulling dnsmasq, bridge-utils, ... | 20:01 |
| gary_poster | stgraber, ok makes sense thanks | 20:02 |
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| chaos_zero | heya, i am looking to do something that might be impossible. anyone want to help me? =P | 21:35 |
| chaos_zero | well i want to run a windows app in the "background" with no X. | 21:36 |
| chaos_zero | has this ever been done? | 21:36 |
| adam_g | zul: are you planning on just overwriting the orig.tar.gz for keystone with the ksl branch? | 21:48 |
| zul | yes | 21:48 |
| zul | im talking about it with anotherjesse on #openstack-dev so you might want to chime in | 21:50 |
| adam_g | zul: if we could put that packaging somewhere other than the archive + the CI repo (a seperate openstack-ubuntu-testing PPA), id prefer to have some time ensuring its at least mostly working. otherwise we risk breaking CI for everything else | 21:53 |
| zul | adam_g: yep | 21:54 |
| adam_g | Daviey: you around? | 22:10 |
| Daviey | adam_g: always | 22:11 |
| Aison | somehow the mysql service is not starting | 22:14 |
| Aison | when I do service mysql start it hangs forever | 22:14 |
| adam_g | Daviey: wondering if its okay to transfer these WIs over to roaksoax: add SSL support to cobbler-enlist, add auto-generation of hostname when not provided by dhcp to cobbler-enlist, Hardware detection and inventory snippet. i believe he's already got the hostname one complete | 22:18 |
| Daviey | adam_g: As roaksoax is owning that area of things, it probably makes sense | 22:35 |
| Daviey | adam_g: postpone hw detection | 22:36 |
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| Aison | when I reinstall mysql-server-5.1 package, why is the file /etc/init/mysql.conf not reinstalled also? | 23:08 |
| Aison | I deleted it | 23:08 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #932415 in cloud-init (main) "Cloud-config can not add PPAs with international text in their description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932415 | 23:10 |
| Jeeves_ | Aison: Did you purge when you removed it? | 23:16 |
| Aison | Jeeves_, no, but now I did and it works ;) | 23:18 |
| Jeeves_ | Good :) | 23:20 |
| Daviey | adam_g: still around? | 23:25 |
| adam_g | Daviey: yea | 23:30 |
| Daviey | adam_g: heya, how are things? | 23:31 |
| adam_g | Daviey: decent. trying to work on bug 883988 but hitting some strange database locking issue that only seems to happen against mysql on precise | 23:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 883988 in glance "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883988 | 23:33 |
| adam_g | that seems unrelated to the bug | 23:34 |
| Daviey | aww, crap. | 23:35 |
| Daviey | adam_g: are you likey to have capacity to 'make green' CI testing before EOD? | 23:35 |
| adam_g | Daviey: yes | 23:36 |
| Daviey | adam_g: aww, that rocks. I might back a start in a bit, but will not be able to finish in time. | 23:37 |
| adam_g | Daviey: huh? | 23:37 |
| Daviey | adam_g: sorry, i'll make a start - but i will not finish | 23:47 |
| adam_g | Daviey: i see whats wrong | 23:47 |
| adam_g | Daviey: deployments are timing out because, during installation, they cannot reach their mirror for whatever reason | 23:48 |
| Daviey | free disk space? ;) | 23:48 |
| adam_g | seems that lab is cut off from gb.archive.ubuntu.com, whic is what they're trying to reach | 23:48 |
| adam_g | not sure exactly why | 23:48 |
| Daviey | ah, no | 23:48 |
| stiv2k | hmmm | 23:49 |
| stiv2k | i created a new user on my server | 23:49 |
| stiv2k | but when i see programs in ps aux that he started | 23:49 |
| stiv2k | it just says user 1003 | 23:50 |
| stiv2k | not his name | 23:50 |
| stiv2k | why? | 23:50 |
| Daviey | stiv2k: Does, cat /etc/passwd , work? | 23:50 |
| stiv2k | Daviey: yesh | 23:51 |
| stiv2k | yeah* | 23:51 |
| stiv2k | knightsrepair:x:1003:1003:,,,:/home/knightsrepair:/bin/bash | 23:51 |
| stiv2k | ^ | 23:51 |
| Daviey | adam_g: do you see that archive.ubuntu.com is pinned to a mirror? | 23:51 |
| Daviey | (that works) | 23:51 |
| adam_g | Daviey: i just did that | 23:51 |
| adam_g | rebooting one now | 23:51 |
| Daviey | adam_g: I suspect that the IP address of gb.archive.ubuntu.com changed, and the firewall is based on IP address | 23:52 |
| adam_g | Daviey: any idea what is setting the hosts to use gb.archive.ubuntu.com? | 23:53 |
| stiv2k | Daviey: ? | 23:54 |
| Daviey | stiv2k: check to see you can read /etc/passwd as that user. | 23:54 |
| Daviey | adam_g: is this on test-01, or the nodes? | 23:55 |
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| adam_g | Daviey: the nodes seem to be attempting to install from gb.archive.ubuntu.com which is unreachable from both test-01 and the rest of the cluster | 23:57 |
| Daviey | adam_g: so, test nodes use test-01 for dns resolution. If the ip for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/hosts works, we'll add an alias to gb.archive.ubuntu.com ; and we should be GOLD> | 23:57 |
| stiv2k | dok | 23:57 |
| stiv2k | Daviey: ok | 23:57 |
| Daviey | adam_g: can you trigger a re-test | 23:57 |
| Daviey | i think it should work now | 23:58 |
| stiv2k | Daviey: i can read it | 23:58 |
| adam_g | Daviey: just a sec | 23:58 |
| bascotie | I setup an Ubuntu Desktop 11.10 Samba/FTP server. I can connect through ftp and share through samba fine but only when putting files ON the server, not pulling them off. I've tried port forwarding, playing with permissions,etc, but I still seem to get a permissions error. I am trying to connect from my Windows 7 machine to the Ubuntu Server. | 23:58 |
| Daviey | bascotie: you might get more success from a samba dedicated channel. | 23:59 |
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