| nhaines | It's very windy outside, but not raining at all. | 00:09 |
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| philipballew | its even raining in san diego | 00:17 |
| erichammond | Whenever it rains in LA, the news media makes a big deal out of it (StormWatch 2011) and I get a call from my mother in law asking if we are ok. | 00:34 |
| akk | heh | 00:35 |
| Faqtotum | it should rain there more often | 00:35 |
| Faqtotum | i didn't much like the drought in sf (1985-1991) and can't understand how other people prefer it | 00:36 |
| broder | i am pro-rain so long as i don't have to go outside during it | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | erichammond: my family just laughs at me (my mother is in Maine and I have a sister in Alberta) | 00:40 |
| pleia2 | the gym I go to is about a mile from home, beautiful walk during nice weather, I don't bother when it rains | 00:41 |
| jbermudes | The reason why rain is such a big problem in LA is because it happens so infrequently that most drivers don't seem to get enough practice and thus freak out | 00:42 |
| Faqtotum | oh. | 00:43 |
| nhaines | jbermudes: no excuse, though. Our winter is a rainy season. | 00:43 |
| nhaines | All you have to do anyway is slow down to the posted speed limit and leave just a tad more space between cars. | 00:44 |
| Faqtotum | when it rains, it's better to be driving than walking | 00:44 |
| jbermudes | nhaines: But that would be logical! | 00:44 |
| pleia2 | drainage is pretty lousy here, there are a couple of spots on highways that get really bad with rain | 00:44 |
| Faqtotum | indeed | 00:44 |
| Faqtotum | like the 101/280 interchange | 00:45 |
| pleia2 | yep | 00:45 |
| nhaines | pleia2: Do you want to ford the river or caulk the wagon and float across? | 00:45 |
| Faqtotum | i nearly became the 4th car in a 3-car collision there when it rained | 00:45 |
| pleia2 | it turns into a lake and they put up a little sign that tells you there might be flooding :) | 00:45 |
| Faqtotum | fortunately, a router i had in the car flew forward as i hit the water and hit the shifter into neutral at the exact right moment | 00:46 |
| Faqtotum | i had already accepted by then that i was going to die | 00:46 |
| Faqtotum | instead, the car ended up basically skiing to safety and i just drove on | 00:48 |
| Faqtotum | this was a few years ago | 00:48 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: that's pretty awesome. | 00:49 |
| philipballew | What would be a reason ubuntu livecd cant see a mandrake harddrive | 00:53 |
| nhaines | philipballew: the harddrive has failed and is currently on fire. | 00:54 |
| philipballew | thats what i am thinking. thats why i run ubuntu. its a fireproof distro nhaines | 00:55 |
| philipballew | 2.6.11 kernal this box has | 00:55 |
| nhaines | Why do you believe the live CD can't see the hard drive? | 00:56 |
| philipballew | fdisk -l does not show it nhaines | 00:57 |
| philipballew | might be some crazy hd thing like master and slave | 00:58 |
| philipballew | if thats not pc, sorry. I dont know what else to call it | 00:58 |
| nhaines | That's what it's called. | 00:58 |
| akk | master/slave/cable select was definitely an issue with IDE. Have you checked that? | 00:59 |
| nhaines | Is the drive an IDE or a SATA drive? | 00:59 |
| broder | ...fdisk -l? does that print anything if you don't already have a device node to give t? | 00:59 |
| broder | *it | 00:59 |
| nhaines | broder: nope. | 00:59 |
| broder | so that means the *drive* is there | 00:59 |
| nhaines | philipballew: what does 'ls /dev/disk/by-id' say? | 00:59 |
| nhaines | broder: it means the drive status is indeterminate. | 00:59 |
| philipballew | i can reinsert the cable again | 01:00 |
| * philipballew powers off server | 01:00 | |
| * philipballew open case | 01:00 | |
| nhaines | philipballew: Is the drive an IDE or a SATA drive? | 01:00 |
| akk | Check the jumpers (assuming it is indeed IDE) while you're in there. | 01:00 |
| * philipballew puts on static bracelet | 01:00 | |
| philipballew | yeah, the jumper is in slave and its the only one there... | 01:01 |
| akk | Maybe put it in master, if it's the only one? | 01:01 |
| nhaines | philipballew: that's why. | 01:01 |
| nhaines | nhaines: jumper the drive for "Master (single)" and then make sure it's on the center position of the cable. | 01:01 |
| philipballew | done and its booting up | 01:02 |
| philipballew | this install still has talnet... | 01:02 |
| philipballew | gonna need to fix that when i install ubuntu over mandrake | 01:03 |
| akk | I miss telnet sometimes. | 01:03 |
| * nhaines never misses telnet. | 01:03 | |
| akk | Just because it was so much faster than ssh. | 01:04 |
| philipballew | if im running fdisk -l from my live usb is the internal hd gonna be sda or sdb? | 01:04 |
| nhaines | Probably sdb. | 01:05 |
| jtatum | i heard telnet was really bad or something so now i only run rlogin | 01:05 |
| akk | mount will tell you where the current filesystem is mounted (whether it's sda) | 01:05 |
| jtatum | ;) | 01:05 |
| akk | I didn't think rlogin was much more secure than telnet. (Miss that too, it was also fast.) | 01:06 |
| jtatum | one could argue it's less secure since it had that concept of trusted hosts | 01:06 |
| nhaines | I don't think rlogin is any more secure at all. | 01:06 |
| akk | The trusted hosts thing seemed to be mostly what people objected to. | 01:08 |
| * akk used rlogin for a long time, though only behind our firewall | 01:08 | |
| philipballew | http://pastebin.com/Hx0Z74rL | 01:10 |
| philipballew | thats sudo fdisk -l and i think its sda probably | 01:11 |
| philipballew | this is a old hd | 01:11 |
| nhaines | philipballew: your internal drive is /dev/sda. You can verify this by running 'mount' | 01:12 |
| nhaines | In addition, /dev/sda1 is cylinder-aligned and /dev/sda1 is 1MB-aligned. No OS before Windows Vista would partition that way. | 01:13 |
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| philipballew | interesting nhaines . I think im gonna take this hd and use ubuntu instead. at least ssh | 01:20 |
| philipballew | gotta dd now. thanks!!! | 01:20 |
| nhaines | I hope he hates storing data, because Ubuntu will take at *least* 3.6GB aside from the 520MB of swap space on that 4GB drive. | 01:23 |
| philipballew | bkerensa, what made you get 600? :) | 05:41 |
| iBkerensa | philipballew, i have. no idea | 05:48 |
| iBkerensa | i only asked for 30 | 05:48 |
| philipballew | you asked for your global jam? they probably had a lot | 05:50 |
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| bkerensa | MarkDude: I ran into the Tripwire lady who was at the Nebula Party | 08:46 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: We chatted up about VMWare and Xen | 08:46 |
| bkerensa | :P | 08:46 |
| MarkDude | Right on bkerensa | 08:58 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: I think we will see her again at OSCON this year | 09:06 |
| MarkDude | Nice person | 09:10 |
| Faqtotum | some internet connections are fail | 14:27 |
| philipballew | bkerensa_, cool with the cd's for the jam though | 17:51 |
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| raevol | i guess i'll just live without being able to install packages until i reformat in april :( | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | raevol: how much is in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | you can clear that out with "sudo apt-get clean" and that may free up enough space | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | also uninstalling old kernels will help | 18:52 |
| raevol | there's an empty partial folder | 18:52 |
| raevol | and a 0 byte lock file | 18:53 |
| raevol | i have 500 free megs now, there's something else going on | 18:53 |
| raevol | and i can't pipe terminal output to a file for some reason | 18:53 |
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| raevol | also my terminal is clearing my scrollback for some reason :( | 19:01 |
| pleia2 | is your home partition full? | 19:01 |
| raevol | no, have 12 free gigs | 19:01 |
| raevol | (of 16) | 19:03 |
| nhaines | raevol: might be a good idea to restart if your /var or /tmp filesystems ran out of space. Linux goes a bit spacey when that happens. | 19:18 |
| raevol | nhaines: i've restarted several times, to no effect | 19:18 |
| nhaines | raevol: thanks to massive netsplits I didn't really catch much of the troubleshooting. | 19:20 |
| raevol | nhaines: most of it was in #ubuntu, i didn't really get any help here | 19:20 |
| raevol | basically my big problem is that i can't use > to output to a file, and my terminal won't save scrollback, so i can't pastebin anything that's going on | 19:21 |
| nhaines | Looked like a space issue from the scrollback here in channel. | 19:22 |
| nhaines | Well, best bet is to back up your home partition and then reinstall Ubuntu in place. | 19:23 |
| raevol | right, but i can't troubleshoot the issue because i can't pastebin any of the errors :) | 19:23 |
| nhaines | This is also an excellent reason to have an entire drive dedicated to your home partition. (I fought that for a long time but love it.) | 19:23 |
| raevol | yes, my /home is on a separate drive | 19:24 |
| nhaines | If redirection worked (you pipe between processes, not to files), you could generate a list of packages and make a reinstall *really* easy. | 19:26 |
| nhaines | But since it doesn't, there's no reason not to reinstall now or on the weekend. | 19:26 |
| nhaines | It can even be good practice for a fresh install in April when 12.04 comes out. :) | 19:26 |
| raevol | yea, i've been doing a fresh install every release for the past few years | 19:27 |
| raevol | i'm at work right now, and i only really use this netbook for irc, so i'll just deal with it until april | 19:27 |
| raevol | or if i get sick of having to close update manager because they removed notification-area integration, i'll format | 19:28 |
| nhaines | raevol: in that case it might be fun to test 12.04 on the netbook. | 19:28 |
| nhaines | Unity is very, very responsive now. | 19:28 |
| raevol | no thanks, i run xubuntu | 19:29 |
| nhaines | Well, no one's perfect. :) | 19:29 |
| Darkwing | ? No ones perfect? | 19:36 |
| raevol | sup Darkwing | 19:43 |
| Darkwing | Not much. | 19:50 |
| Darkwing | Brushing up on my PHP for tomorrow phone interview. | 19:50 |
| raevol | nice nice | 19:50 |
| Darkwing | A guy I met at SCALE. | 19:50 |
| raevol | i had an interview yesterday, fingers crossed, should hear back next week | 19:50 |
| Darkwing | :) Looks like that trip will pay off in more then one way. | 19:50 |
| Darkwing | Good luck | 19:51 |
| raevol | haha yea :D | 19:51 |
| raevol | thanks | 19:51 |
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| === mdr|meh is now known as MediaDoneRight | ||
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