[00:09] It's very windy outside, but not raining at all. [00:17] its even raining in san diego [00:34] Whenever it rains in LA, the news media makes a big deal out of it (StormWatch 2011) and I get a call from my mother in law asking if we are ok. [00:35] heh [00:35] it should rain there more often [00:36] i didn't much like the drought in sf (1985-1991) and can't understand how other people prefer it [00:38] i am pro-rain so long as i don't have to go outside during it [00:40] erichammond: my family just laughs at me (my mother is in Maine and I have a sister in Alberta) [00:41] the gym I go to is about a mile from home, beautiful walk during nice weather, I don't bother when it rains [00:42] The reason why rain is such a big problem in LA is because it happens so infrequently that most drivers don't seem to get enough practice and thus freak out [00:43] oh. [00:43] jbermudes: no excuse, though. Our winter is a rainy season. [00:44] All you have to do anyway is slow down to the posted speed limit and leave just a tad more space between cars. [00:44] when it rains, it's better to be driving than walking [00:44] nhaines: But that would be logical! [00:44] drainage is pretty lousy here, there are a couple of spots on highways that get really bad with rain [00:44] indeed [00:45] like the 101/280 interchange [00:45] yep [00:45] pleia2: Do you want to ford the river or caulk the wagon and float across? [00:45] i nearly became the 4th car in a 3-car collision there when it rained [00:45] it turns into a lake and they put up a little sign that tells you there might be flooding :) [00:46] fortunately, a router i had in the car flew forward as i hit the water and hit the shifter into neutral at the exact right moment [00:46] i had already accepted by then that i was going to die [00:48] instead, the car ended up basically skiing to safety and i just drove on [00:48] this was a few years ago [00:49] Faqtotum: that's pretty awesome. [00:53] What would be a reason ubuntu livecd cant see a mandrake harddrive [00:54] philipballew: the harddrive has failed and is currently on fire. [00:55] thats what i am thinking. thats why i run ubuntu. its a fireproof distro nhaines [00:55] 2.6.11 kernal this box has [00:56] Why do you believe the live CD can't see the hard drive? [00:57] fdisk -l does not show it nhaines [00:58] might be some crazy hd thing like master and slave [00:58] if thats not pc, sorry. I dont know what else to call it [00:58] That's what it's called. [00:59] master/slave/cable select was definitely an issue with IDE. Have you checked that? [00:59] Is the drive an IDE or a SATA drive? [00:59] ...fdisk -l? does that print anything if you don't already have a device node to give t? [00:59] *it [00:59] broder: nope. [00:59] so that means the *drive* is there [00:59] philipballew: what does 'ls /dev/disk/by-id' say? [00:59] broder: it means the drive status is indeterminate. [01:00] i can reinsert the cable again [01:00] * philipballew powers off server [01:00] * philipballew open case [01:00] philipballew: Is the drive an IDE or a SATA drive? [01:00] Check the jumpers (assuming it is indeed IDE) while you're in there. [01:00] * philipballew puts on static bracelet [01:01] yeah, the jumper is in slave and its the only one there... [01:01] Maybe put it in master, if it's the only one? [01:01] philipballew: that's why. [01:01] nhaines: jumper the drive for "Master (single)" and then make sure it's on the center position of the cable. [01:02] done and its booting up [01:02] this install still has talnet... [01:03] gonna need to fix that when i install ubuntu over mandrake [01:03] I miss telnet sometimes. [01:03] * nhaines never misses telnet. [01:04] Just because it was so much faster than ssh. [01:04] if im running fdisk -l from my live usb is the internal hd gonna be sda or sdb? [01:05] Probably sdb. [01:05] i heard telnet was really bad or something so now i only run rlogin [01:05] mount will tell you where the current filesystem is mounted (whether it's sda) [01:05] ;) [01:06] I didn't think rlogin was much more secure than telnet. (Miss that too, it was also fast.) [01:06] one could argue it's less secure since it had that concept of trusted hosts [01:06] I don't think rlogin is any more secure at all. [01:08] The trusted hosts thing seemed to be mostly what people objected to. [01:08] * akk used rlogin for a long time, though only behind our firewall [01:10] http://pastebin.com/Hx0Z74rL [01:11] thats sudo fdisk -l and i think its sda probably [01:11] this is a old hd [01:12] philipballew: your internal drive is /dev/sda. You can verify this by running 'mount' [01:13] In addition, /dev/sda1 is cylinder-aligned and /dev/sda1 is 1MB-aligned. No OS before Windows Vista would partition that way. === Corey_ is now known as Corey [01:20] interesting nhaines . I think im gonna take this hd and use ubuntu instead. at least ssh [01:20] gotta dd now. thanks!!! [01:23] I hope he hates storing data, because Ubuntu will take at *least* 3.6GB aside from the 520MB of swap space on that 4GB drive. [05:41] bkerensa, what made you get 600? :) [05:48] philipballew, i have. no idea [05:48] i only asked for 30 [05:50] you asked for your global jam? they probably had a lot === Corey_ is now known as Corey [08:46] MarkDude: I ran into the Tripwire lady who was at the Nebula Party [08:46] MarkDude: We chatted up about VMWare and Xen [08:46] :P [08:58] Right on bkerensa [09:06] MarkDude: I think we will see her again at OSCON this year [09:10] Nice person [14:27] some internet connections are fail [17:51] bkerensa_, cool with the cd's for the jam though === bkerensa_ is now known as bkerensa === Ttech is now known as Guest43954 [18:51] i guess i'll just live without being able to install packages until i reformat in april :( [18:52] raevol: how much is in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? [18:52] you can clear that out with "sudo apt-get clean" and that may free up enough space [18:52] also uninstalling old kernels will help [18:52] there's an empty partial folder [18:53] and a 0 byte lock file [18:53] i have 500 free megs now, there's something else going on [18:53] and i can't pipe terminal output to a file for some reason === paulproteus_ is now known as paulproteus [19:01] also my terminal is clearing my scrollback for some reason :( [19:01] is your home partition full? [19:01] no, have 12 free gigs [19:03] (of 16) [19:18] raevol: might be a good idea to restart if your /var or /tmp filesystems ran out of space. Linux goes a bit spacey when that happens. [19:18] nhaines: i've restarted several times, to no effect [19:20] raevol: thanks to massive netsplits I didn't really catch much of the troubleshooting. [19:20] nhaines: most of it was in #ubuntu, i didn't really get any help here [19:21] basically my big problem is that i can't use > to output to a file, and my terminal won't save scrollback, so i can't pastebin anything that's going on [19:22] Looked like a space issue from the scrollback here in channel. [19:23] Well, best bet is to back up your home partition and then reinstall Ubuntu in place. [19:23] right, but i can't troubleshoot the issue because i can't pastebin any of the errors :) [19:23] This is also an excellent reason to have an entire drive dedicated to your home partition. (I fought that for a long time but love it.) [19:24] yes, my /home is on a separate drive [19:26] If redirection worked (you pipe between processes, not to files), you could generate a list of packages and make a reinstall *really* easy. [19:26] But since it doesn't, there's no reason not to reinstall now or on the weekend. [19:26] It can even be good practice for a fresh install in April when 12.04 comes out. :) [19:27] yea, i've been doing a fresh install every release for the past few years [19:27] i'm at work right now, and i only really use this netbook for irc, so i'll just deal with it until april [19:28] or if i get sick of having to close update manager because they removed notification-area integration, i'll format [19:28] raevol: in that case it might be fun to test 12.04 on the netbook. [19:28] Unity is very, very responsive now. [19:29] no thanks, i run xubuntu [19:29] Well, no one's perfect. :) [19:36] ? No ones perfect? [19:43] sup Darkwing [19:50] Not much. [19:50] Brushing up on my PHP for tomorrow phone interview. [19:50] nice nice [19:50] A guy I met at SCALE. [19:50] i had an interview yesterday, fingers crossed, should hear back next week [19:50] :) Looks like that trip will pay off in more then one way. [19:51] Good luck [19:51] haha yea :D [19:51] thanks === MediaDoneRight is now known as mdr|meh === mdr|meh is now known as MediaDoneRight