| Blazeix | rick_h: did you see this go by? http://javascriptjabber.com/004-jsj-backbone-js-with-jeremy-ashkenas/ | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| Blazeix | know you're not 100% in the backbone camp, but there are some neat topics | 00:19 |
| rick_h | Blazeix: I saw someone reference the podcast, but hadn't looked at the topics/etc | 00:20 |
| * rick_h adds it to give a listen | 00:20 | |
| tjagoda | wokawoka | 00:36 |
| rick_h | that good eh? | 00:43 |
| snap-l | oy | 00:54 |
| jcastro | rick_h: I trolled you in my latest blog | 01:01 |
| tjagoda | lol | 01:04 |
| rick_h | jcastro: hah! /me runs to look | 01:11 |
| rick_h | jcastro: oh boo. You don't have to learn vim (but you should) it's the cmd line I don't think everyone should be excused from :0 | 01:14 |
| jcastro | But I do know vim! | 01:14 |
| jcastro | all the antipatterns anyway | 01:14 |
| jcastro | :) | 01:14 |
| brousch | vim is awesome | 01:49 |
| brousch | i am addicted | 01:49 |
| rick_h | brousch: :) | 01:50 |
| brousch | now i feel crippled when another editor pops up | 01:59 |
| snap-l | jcastro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_iIPly3mM&feature=relmfu | 03:02 |
| brousch | is evernote broken? | 03:41 |
| snap-l | Don't use it, so not sure. | 03:43 |
| rick_h | morning party people | 12:13 |
| brousch | in the place to be | 12:13 |
| brousch | car shopping today. wife decided subaru impreza, legacy, outback, or forester | 12:13 |
| rick_h | outback ftw | 12:14 |
| brousch | well the only outback in our price range is a 2004 | 12:15 |
| brousch | and it's out in grand haven, about 45mins away | 12:15 |
| rick_h | ah | 12:15 |
| brousch | i should say in our price and mileage range | 12:15 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/raw/KMydFP0CsRH2lVVAS8C1/ | 12:16 |
| snap-l | Haf of me wants to sell him every OMC episode for 1 billion dollars each | 12:17 |
| rick_h | booo, always do upgrades in a screen session :/ | 12:22 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Session tanked overnight? | 12:22 |
| rick_h | did an upgrade, left it alone, couldn't get the display back up at all | 12:22 |
| rick_h | so rebooted, only now things are hosed and won't boot | 12:23 |
| snap-l | lovely | 12:23 |
| rick_h | yep, guessing the upgrade stalled and asked for something and I rebooted with it incomplete | 12:23 |
| brousch | rick_h: what blew up? | 12:39 |
| rick_h | brousch: my precise desktop | 12:39 |
| brousch | doh | 12:39 |
| rick_h | yea | 12:39 |
| brousch | dogfood not so good :( | 12:47 |
| rick_h | naw, it's just a result of the desktop not getting love nad being stacked over on synergy | 12:47 |
| rick_h | and I ran the update without following it until the next day | 12:47 |
| rick_h | meh, not totally surprised I guess. I even thought about ssh'ing into the machine when the screen didn't come back. I shold have killed the update and restarted it from the ssh term but didn't | 12:48 |
| rick_h | moron move on my end | 12:48 |
| rick_h | fortunately it wasn't doing anything except acting as another screen to run browsers on | 12:48 |
| rick_h | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9271222/sqlalchemy-insert-millions-data-inenficiency | 12:50 |
| rick_h | *sigh* | 12:50 |
| rick_h | the stupid is high today | 12:50 |
| tjagoda | I live for facebook updates about the strange things brousch's son says. | 12:59 |
| tjagoda | iLol'd. | 12:59 |
| rick_h | facebook? that thing's still around? :P | 12:59 |
| brousch | tjagoda: apparently he has a following at my wife's work too | 13:00 |
| tjagoda | Without facebook how would I be kept in the loop about George's antics? | 13:00 |
| brousch | rick_h: it's where you go to argue about evolution and post funny quotes from your kids | 13:00 |
| tjagoda | Surely nobody else has cracked this social technology?! | 13:01 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: haven't you need the meme? You're supposed to publish videos on a blog named "sh!t my son says" | 13:01 |
| rick_h | or a twitter account like darth vader :) | 13:01 |
| brousch | heh | 13:02 |
| brousch | hm, a fake rick_h twitter account | 13:02 |
| tjagoda | "@rick__H: I love quiet keyboards!" | 13:03 |
| tjagoda | "@rick__H: I do all my coding in OpenOffice writer!" | 13:03 |
| rick_h | heh, I answered that reddit already today :P | 13:03 |
| brousch | If you can hear the rap music over the sound of your typing, you need new springs on your keyboard | 13:04 |
| tjagoda | wtf, seriously? OO.o coding? | 13:04 |
| rick_h | http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/porwg/your_python_editor_of_choice/ | 13:04 |
| tjagoda | The original question is not as stupid as I was hoping it would be. | 13:05 |
| rick_h | http://blog.monitis.com/index.php/2012/02/13/python-performance-tips-part-1/ | 13:06 |
| tjagoda | Is Launchpad done primarily in Python? | 13:08 |
| rick_h | yes | 13:08 |
| brousch | rick_h: do you use gunicorn on bookie? | 13:08 |
| snap-l | GOod morning again from the other side of the screen. :) | 13:09 |
| rick_h | brousch: the dev server when you run " make run_dev" uses it | 13:09 |
| rick_h | brousch: but bmark.us is deployed with uwsgi + nginx | 13:09 |
| brousch | gunicorn worked easily on heroku | 13:09 |
| tjagoda | No wonder its so damn slow! =P | 13:09 |
| rick_h | brousch: cool | 13:10 |
| rick_h | I'd have figured they'd run your wsgi app itself vs proxying but ok | 13:10 |
| brousch | heh sqlalchemy insertion guy is doing it on windows | 13:12 |
| brousch | found your bottleneck! | 13:12 |
| rick_h | naw, but writing out an answer about how transations work and all that will be too much work | 13:14 |
| rick_h | and the answer should be "use your damn db import mechanism" | 13:14 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Oh God yes | 13:17 |
| snap-l | What do you want to bet he / she is using SQLite as well. :) | 13:18 |
| tjagoda | Have not heard anything from Geek.net yet | 13:19 |
| tjagoda | /sadtrombone | 13:19 |
| brousch | snap-l: i think i saw a My in there, so probably mysql | 13:33 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: It may take some time | 13:35 |
| snap-l | brousch: That's not much of an improvement. :) | 13:36 |
| tjagoda | snap-l: Are you inferring that the universe does not revolve around me personally? | 13:37 |
| tjagoda | If you are, I am not a fan of this inference. =( | 13:37 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Hate to break it to you, but you're just an extra in my play. | 13:37 |
| tjagoda | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 13:38 |
| snap-l | Rocking the morning with Mc 900ft Jesus - Truth is out of style. | 13:40 |
| tjagoda | I was reading the Geek.net financial statements sunday | 14:01 |
| tjagoda | Shit hit the fan for them in 2010 | 14:01 |
| tjagoda | No wonder that they restructured | 14:01 |
| snap-l | Oh yeah | 14:10 |
| snap-l | I'm not mad at them for laying me off | 14:10 |
| tjagoda | Would it be acceptable to wallpaper this as a mural in my office? | 15:11 |
| tjagoda | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425989_10150560104462198_728877197_9231165_60585187_n.jpg | 15:11 |
| rick_h | think you're going to want a larger res image | 15:12 |
| rick_h | and you can forget picking up any ladies from the office I think :) | 15:12 |
| tjagoda | Or only the RIGHT ladies. | 15:12 |
| rick_h | heh | 15:13 |
| tjagoda | I love that my Boss believes he is an awesome communicator | 15:15 |
| tjagoda | when in reality he is terrible | 15:15 |
| tjagoda | Reason #467 which makes this a stress-free workplace! | 15:16 |
| tjagoda | PLZ HIRE ME GEEKNET | 15:16 |
| tjagoda | WILL WORK FOR CARDBOARD BOXES | 15:16 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Oh, he's no Winston Churchill? | 15:30 |
| tjagoda | The opposite of Winston Churchill | 15:48 |
| tjagoda | Impossible to tell when he's angry because his voice does not change, takes 20 minutes to say something that should be 5 words, forgets to tell me when meeting times change | 15:48 |
| tjagoda | etc. | 15:48 |
| tjagoda | Also bad at the hearing part of listening | 15:49 |
| tjagoda | =P | 15:49 |
| tjagoda | "This will take four months." | 15:49 |
| tjagoda | "So are we looking at 2 or 3 months?" | 15:49 |
| tjagoda | "...This will take four months." | 15:49 |
| rick_h | that's just the manager in him. | 15:50 |
| rick_h | "ok, so what you mean is that if I manage you well it can be half that. Nothing can possibly take 4 months to do" | 15:50 |
| tjagoda | Thats actually step two | 15:51 |
| tjagoda | Step one is just getting him to hear the same words you said | 15:51 |
| tjagoda | Step two is him then doing the manager =( | 15:51 |
| snap-l | "Claim your 300% Euro today - offer expires at midnight." | 15:51 |
| tjagoda | Its like double-manager psychology | 15:52 |
| snap-l | What's the exchange rate on 300% nowadays? | 15:52 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Doing the manager? | 15:52 |
| snap-l | Is that a dance move, or an aspiration? :) | 15:52 |
| tjagoda | I found on ebay last night that my Lego Millennium Falcon increased in value by 125% | 15:52 |
| tjagoda | Thus marking my first awesome purchase ever | 15:53 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Completed auctions, or buy it now shennanigans? | 15:53 |
| tjagoda | Completed auctions | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Nice! | 15:53 |
| tjagoda | People bidding in 4-digit sums, ridiculous | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Damn | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Tried to convince JoDee that a Lego Tie Fighter was a reasonable purchase | 15:54 |
| snap-l | I don't think she bought it | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | http://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Ultimate-Collectors-Millennium-Falcon/dp/B000WLW3W0 | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | I promise you I paid nowhere near that sum | 15:54 |
| snap-l | Amazon is ridiculous for OOP stuff | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | The Ebay prices are a bit lower | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | in the 1200-1400 range | 15:54 |
| snap-l | someone marks something as a collectible, and pretty soon it's going for 500% above retail | 15:54 |
| jrwren | why didn't anyone tell me that pypy is so awesome? | 15:55 |
| rick_h | jrwren: because we didn't know you had cpu bound python2 problems? | 15:56 |
| snap-l | Honestly, if Amazon doesn't ship it from their warehouse, I'm more reluctant to purchase it | 15:56 |
| rick_h | snap-l: +1 | 15:56 |
| jrwren | +1 | 15:56 |
| snap-l | Which is humorous because I sell stuff on Amazon all the time. :) | 15:57 |
| jrwren | you do? | 15:57 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, mostly used books and shit | 15:57 |
| jrwren | cool | 15:57 |
| * snap-l is a long-time ebayer too, but don't sell there anymore | 15:58 | |
| snap-l | They kept jerking around sellers | 15:58 |
| snap-l | Last straw was witholding payments if you didn't do X number of transactions per month or something | 15:58 |
| tjagoda | I like to think that people named "Regan" were named in some kind of honorary tribute to the former President Ronald Reagan. | 15:59 |
| snap-l | I don't remember what it was offhand, but it essentially meant they'd keep the money for a while if you weren't blowing out massive amounts of transactions per month | 15:59 |
| tjagoda | Or as you may have heard him colloquially referred to within the Republican party, "Jesus." | 15:59 |
| snap-l | which is anathema to someone who sells maybe 2 items per month online | 16:00 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: I love how Regan is revered in the Republican partyh. | 16:00 |
| tjagoda | Like an elevation to Sainthood | 16:01 |
| rick_h | jrwren: what are you doing with pypy? | 16:01 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Pretty much | 16:03 |
| tjagoda | I think | 16:03 |
| tjagoda | that it is taco bell o-clock. | 16:04 |
| tjagoda | afk lunch | 16:04 |
| jrwren | nothing. | 16:13 |
| jrwren | but i just finally heard a desc of pypy more than just "python in python" | 16:13 |
| jrwren | i had no idea there was a native machine jitter | 16:13 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, it's pretty cool if you've got some cpu heavy stuff | 16:14 |
| jrwren | it sounds awesome. | 16:15 |
| jrwren | and has stackless options. | 16:15 |
| rick_h | it's done wonders for the native python implementation of libraries | 16:16 |
| jrwren | makes me want to try out a stackless greenlet-per-request server on it. | 16:16 |
| rick_h | heh | 16:16 |
| jrwren | well, ctypes are awesome. | 16:16 |
| rick_h | anyone tried https://github.com/scrooloose/syntastic | 16:36 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Not yet, but looks pretty interesting. | 16:41 |
| tjagoda | I like how terrified users get when I access the windows share and they realize I can inspect their entire PC at any time | 16:45 |
| rick_h | heh | 16:46 |
| rick_h | I used to get that when I took over their terminal server sessions | 16:46 |
| rick_h | nothing like taking over their mouse and clicking wherever the #@$#@ you feel like in front of them, especially when they're remote | 16:46 |
| tjagoda | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/rick-santorum-edges-mitt-romney-race-gop-presidential-nomination-poll-article-1.1022265?localLinksEnabled=false | 16:51 |
| tjagoda | As if Republicans weren't unlikely enough to win already | 16:51 |
| jrwren | wtf do people think when they are on a corporate networK? | 16:54 |
| snap-l | And this is why I use SSH tunnels whenever possible | 16:54 |
| jrwren | i used to remove domain admins from my local administrator group to try to prevent some of that, but I know as an AD joined machine, they can apply a GPO at any time to add it back. | 16:54 |
| tjagoda | When they're on a corporate network on corporate machines | 16:55 |
| jrwren | what I'm not sure about is if GPO can be applied without a reboot or relogin | 16:55 |
| snap-l | It's not that I do things that I think need to be private, it's because I don't like to broadcast what I'm doing. | 16:55 |
| snap-l | http://avinashsingh.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/a-myth-called-the-indian-programmer/ | 16:58 |
| snap-l | Pretty broad strokes, but mirrors some of my experience. | 16:59 |
| snap-l | That said, we did get some very bright folks over at Chrysler. | 17:00 |
| jrwren | its a b.s. difference between "programmers" and "coders" | 17:09 |
| jrwren | IME there is no difference. | 17:09 |
| jrwren | the premise on which his post is written is a falacy | 17:09 |
| jrwren | that said, I completely understand what he is saying :) | 17:09 |
| snap-l | Yeah, the terminology is a bit wonky | 17:10 |
| snap-l | It's a little disturbing that the term Coder is somehow the more derogatory form of programmer | 17:12 |
| jrwren | its not in my book. | 17:12 |
| snap-l | I think it is up to us to rectify that and come up with more derogatory terms | 17:12 |
| snap-l | keyboard jockey, perhaps? | 17:13 |
| jrwren | a top knoch coder is worth a ton | 17:13 |
| jrwren | but IME great coders are also architects. | 17:13 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Your post on "Your search sucks" is getting attention | 17:14 |
| jcastro | snap-l: it's on the reddit front page! | 17:21 |
| jcastro | good way to test me new blog, heh | 17:21 |
| rick_h | jcastro: do you have any stats on the new blog? | 17:22 |
| rick_h | just setup GA on it or something? | 17:22 |
| jcastro | I do | 17:22 |
| jcastro | in realtime. :) | 17:22 |
| rick_h | heh | 17:22 |
| jcastro | 75 people on right now | 17:22 |
| rick_h | ok dammit, I can't get that syntastic to do auto checking, but runs manuall | 17:22 |
| rick_h | grrrrr | 17:22 |
| jcastro | I either have realtime or from yesterday, not today as a while | 17:23 |
| rick_h | right | 17:24 |
| jrwren | how did you do that? | 17:24 |
| jrwren | build on GAE or something? | 17:24 |
| jcastro | just using normal google analytics | 17:24 |
| rick_h | GA has realtime beta stats now | 17:24 |
| jcastro | the realtime is beta | 17:24 |
| jcastro | it's pretty awesome | 17:24 |
| jrwren | ah, i see | 17:24 |
| snap-l | IT's not so awesome when you don't have people on your site. :) | 17:28 |
| jcastro | well, I certainly wasn't expecting a redditing | 17:28 |
| snap-l | jcastro: It's part of the Ubuntu Conspiracy | 17:29 |
| jcastro | S3 delivers! | 17:29 |
| jcastro | oh wait ... so much for being cheaper | 17:29 |
| snap-l | See, you moved to the cloud stuff and THEN posted your most throught-provoking post yet. | 17:29 |
| jcastro | get redditted the first day out the door | 17:29 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Well, at least you're not trying to scale Tumblr | 17:30 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:30 |
| snap-l | and releasing the tumblebeasts | 17:30 |
| snap-l | Apparently 1.4G takes a while to import into a MySQL database. ;) | 18:43 |
| rick_h | snap-l: did you turn off logging first? | 18:43 |
| snap-l | no, because I'm an idiot. | 18:48 |
| snap-l | Actually, it's not turned on by default in 5.1 | 18:49 |
| snap-l | I think they wised up | 18:49 |
| rick_h | ah, yea should be able to turn off loggin, transactions, and crank an import pretty quick | 18:49 |
| snap-l | Unfortunately I'm an hour into this | 18:54 |
| snap-l | so I'm loathe to stop it on the off-chance that it's 90% done | 18:55 |
| snap-l | And now that i look at how it's handling this (ls -al), I'm going to cut bait. | 18:56 |
| jrwren | snap-l: we have a problem. | 19:29 |
| jrwren | i'm going to be out of state weekend of global bug jam. | 19:29 |
| jrwren | unless i have wrong day. | 19:29 |
| snap-l | March 3-5? | 19:33 |
| snap-l | jrwren: ^^ | 19:33 |
| jrwren | :( | 19:34 |
| jrwren | i'm pinging coworkers to see if someone can facilitate | 19:35 |
| jrwren | i can't beleive i messed this up | 19:35 |
| jrwren | we were looking at saturday noon to 5p, right? | 19:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah | 19:36 |
| snap-l | Don't be hard on yourself. :) | 19:36 |
| jrwren | gmail or decafbad ? | 19:38 |
| snap-l | decafbad, please | 19:49 |
| jrwren | damn, used gmail | 19:49 |
| jrwren | sorry | 19:50 |
| jrwren | err... no... was waiting to hear back before I hit send. | 19:50 |
| jrwren | craig@ right? | 19:50 |
| snap-l | Yep | 19:52 |
| snap-l | That's OK, though - gmail forwards to decafb | 19:52 |
| snap-l | as | 19:52 |
| snap-l | bah, decafbad | 19:53 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Did you send something to gmail? I've not received it | 19:56 |
| jrwren | nah, had your email in the email to my coworkers in case they want to contact you | 19:56 |
| snap-l | OK, no worries. | 20:02 |
| snap-l | Thank you. :) | 20:02 |
| jrwren | no LVM option in the default installer :( | 20:31 |
| jrwren | I didn't realize this. | 20:31 |
| jrwren | i'm nub | 20:31 |
| snap-l | Yeah, you'll be better off using the alternate installer | 20:32 |
| jrwren | i'll testdrive that next :) | 20:42 |
| brousch | 2009 subaru forester | 22:29 |
| jrwren | sounds expensive | 22:31 |
| tjagoda | Sounds Asian! | 22:32 |
| * tjagoda has fierce Chrysler loyalty =( | 22:32 | |
| jrwren | always or just since they are italian? | 22:33 |
| tjagoda | Hey, man, its only 51%. ='( | 22:36 |
| rick_h | brousch: coolness | 22:39 |
| jcastro | rick_h: 6 cents | 22:51 |
| jcastro | that's what my blog has cost me after reddit today | 22:51 |
| Blazeix | send them a bill | 22:54 |
| rick_h | jcastro: :0 | 22:54 |
| rick_h | :) | 22:54 |
| brousch | jcastro: only $14,000 | 23:15 |
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