[00:19] rick_h: did you see this go by? http://javascriptjabber.com/004-jsj-backbone-js-with-jeremy-ashkenas/ [00:19] know you're not 100% in the backbone camp, but there are some neat topics [00:20] Blazeix: I saw someone reference the podcast, but hadn't looked at the topics/etc [00:20] * rick_h adds it to give a listen [00:36] wokawoka [00:43] that good eh? [00:54] oy [01:01] rick_h: I trolled you in my latest blog [01:04] lol [01:11] jcastro: hah! /me runs to look [01:14] jcastro: oh boo. You don't have to learn vim (but you should) it's the cmd line I don't think everyone should be excused from :0 [01:14] But I do know vim! [01:14] all the antipatterns anyway [01:14] :) [01:49] vim is awesome [01:49] i am addicted [01:50] brousch: :) [01:59] now i feel crippled when another editor pops up [03:02] jcastro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_iIPly3mM&feature=relmfu [03:41] is evernote broken? [03:43] Don't use it, so not sure. [12:13] morning party people [12:13] in the place to be [12:13] car shopping today. wife decided subaru impreza, legacy, outback, or forester [12:14] outback ftw [12:15] well the only outback in our price range is a 2004 [12:15] and it's out in grand haven, about 45mins away [12:15] ah [12:15] i should say in our price and mileage range [12:16] http://paste.mitechie.com/raw/KMydFP0CsRH2lVVAS8C1/ [12:17] Haf of me wants to sell him every OMC episode for 1 billion dollars each [12:22] booo, always do upgrades in a screen session :/ [12:22] rick_h: Session tanked overnight? [12:22] did an upgrade, left it alone, couldn't get the display back up at all [12:23] so rebooted, only now things are hosed and won't boot [12:23] lovely [12:23] yep, guessing the upgrade stalled and asked for something and I rebooted with it incomplete [12:39] rick_h: what blew up? [12:39] brousch: my precise desktop [12:39] doh [12:39] yea [12:47] dogfood not so good :( [12:47] naw, it's just a result of the desktop not getting love nad being stacked over on synergy [12:47] and I ran the update without following it until the next day [12:48] meh, not totally surprised I guess. I even thought about ssh'ing into the machine when the screen didn't come back. I shold have killed the update and restarted it from the ssh term but didn't [12:48] moron move on my end [12:48] fortunately it wasn't doing anything except acting as another screen to run browsers on [12:50] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9271222/sqlalchemy-insert-millions-data-inenficiency [12:50] *sigh* [12:50] the stupid is high today [12:59] I live for facebook updates about the strange things brousch's son says. [12:59] iLol'd. [12:59] facebook? that thing's still around? :P [13:00] tjagoda: apparently he has a following at my wife's work too [13:00] Without facebook how would I be kept in the loop about George's antics? [13:00] rick_h: it's where you go to argue about evolution and post funny quotes from your kids [13:01] Surely nobody else has cracked this social technology?! [13:01] tjagoda: haven't you need the meme? You're supposed to publish videos on a blog named "sh!t my son says" [13:01] or a twitter account like darth vader :) [13:02] heh [13:02] hm, a fake rick_h twitter account [13:03] "@rick__H: I love quiet keyboards!" [13:03] "@rick__H: I do all my coding in OpenOffice writer!" [13:03] heh, I answered that reddit already today :P [13:04] If you can hear the rap music over the sound of your typing, you need new springs on your keyboard [13:04] wtf, seriously? OO.o coding? [13:04] http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/porwg/your_python_editor_of_choice/ [13:05] The original question is not as stupid as I was hoping it would be. [13:06] http://blog.monitis.com/index.php/2012/02/13/python-performance-tips-part-1/ [13:08] Is Launchpad done primarily in Python? [13:08] yes [13:08] rick_h: do you use gunicorn on bookie? [13:09] GOod morning again from the other side of the screen. :) [13:09] brousch: the dev server when you run " make run_dev" uses it [13:09] brousch: but bmark.us is deployed with uwsgi + nginx [13:09] gunicorn worked easily on heroku [13:09] No wonder its so damn slow! =P [13:10] brousch: cool [13:10] I'd have figured they'd run your wsgi app itself vs proxying but ok [13:12] heh sqlalchemy insertion guy is doing it on windows [13:12] found your bottleneck! [13:14] naw, but writing out an answer about how transations work and all that will be too much work [13:14] and the answer should be "use your damn db import mechanism" [13:17] rick_h: Oh God yes [13:18] What do you want to bet he / she is using SQLite as well. :) [13:19] Have not heard anything from Geek.net yet [13:19] /sadtrombone [13:33] snap-l: i think i saw a My in there, so probably mysql [13:35] tjagoda: It may take some time [13:36] brousch: That's not much of an improvement. :) [13:37] snap-l: Are you inferring that the universe does not revolve around me personally? [13:37] If you are, I am not a fan of this inference. =( [13:37] tjagoda: Hate to break it to you, but you're just an extra in my play. [13:38] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [13:40] Rocking the morning with Mc 900ft Jesus - Truth is out of style. [14:01] I was reading the Geek.net financial statements sunday [14:01] Shit hit the fan for them in 2010 [14:01] No wonder that they restructured [14:10] Oh yeah [14:10] I'm not mad at them for laying me off [15:11] Would it be acceptable to wallpaper this as a mural in my office? [15:11] http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425989_10150560104462198_728877197_9231165_60585187_n.jpg [15:12] think you're going to want a larger res image [15:12] and you can forget picking up any ladies from the office I think :) [15:12] Or only the RIGHT ladies. [15:13] heh [15:15] I love that my Boss believes he is an awesome communicator [15:15] when in reality he is terrible [15:16] Reason #467 which makes this a stress-free workplace! [15:16] PLZ HIRE ME GEEKNET [15:16] WILL WORK FOR CARDBOARD BOXES [15:30] tjagoda: Oh, he's no Winston Churchill? [15:48] The opposite of Winston Churchill [15:48] Impossible to tell when he's angry because his voice does not change, takes 20 minutes to say something that should be 5 words, forgets to tell me when meeting times change [15:48] etc. [15:49] Also bad at the hearing part of listening [15:49] =P [15:49] "This will take four months." [15:49] "So are we looking at 2 or 3 months?" [15:49] "...This will take four months." [15:50] that's just the manager in him. [15:50] "ok, so what you mean is that if I manage you well it can be half that. Nothing can possibly take 4 months to do" [15:51] Thats actually step two [15:51] Step one is just getting him to hear the same words you said [15:51] Step two is him then doing the manager =( [15:51] "Claim your 300% Euro today - offer expires at midnight." [15:52] Its like double-manager psychology [15:52] What's the exchange rate on 300% nowadays? [15:52] tjagoda: Doing the manager? [15:52] Is that a dance move, or an aspiration? :) [15:52] I found on ebay last night that my Lego Millennium Falcon increased in value by 125% [15:53] Thus marking my first awesome purchase ever [15:53] tjagoda: Completed auctions, or buy it now shennanigans? [15:53] Completed auctions [15:53] Nice! [15:53] People bidding in 4-digit sums, ridiculous [15:53] Damn [15:54] Tried to convince JoDee that a Lego Tie Fighter was a reasonable purchase [15:54] I don't think she bought it [15:54] http://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Ultimate-Collectors-Millennium-Falcon/dp/B000WLW3W0 [15:54] I promise you I paid nowhere near that sum [15:54] Amazon is ridiculous for OOP stuff [15:54] The Ebay prices are a bit lower [15:54] in the 1200-1400 range [15:54] someone marks something as a collectible, and pretty soon it's going for 500% above retail [15:55] why didn't anyone tell me that pypy is so awesome? [15:56] jrwren: because we didn't know you had cpu bound python2 problems? [15:56] Honestly, if Amazon doesn't ship it from their warehouse, I'm more reluctant to purchase it [15:56] snap-l: +1 [15:56] +1 [15:57] Which is humorous because I sell stuff on Amazon all the time. :) [15:57] you do? [15:57] jrwren: Yeah, mostly used books and shit [15:57] cool [15:58] * snap-l is a long-time ebayer too, but don't sell there anymore [15:58] They kept jerking around sellers [15:58] Last straw was witholding payments if you didn't do X number of transactions per month or something [15:59] I like to think that people named "Regan" were named in some kind of honorary tribute to the former President Ronald Reagan. [15:59] I don't remember what it was offhand, but it essentially meant they'd keep the money for a while if you weren't blowing out massive amounts of transactions per month [15:59] Or as you may have heard him colloquially referred to within the Republican party, "Jesus." [16:00] which is anathema to someone who sells maybe 2 items per month online [16:00] tjagoda: I love how Regan is revered in the Republican partyh. [16:01] Like an elevation to Sainthood [16:01] jrwren: what are you doing with pypy? [16:03] tjagoda: Pretty much [16:03] I think [16:04] that it is taco bell o-clock. [16:04] afk lunch [16:13] nothing. [16:13] but i just finally heard a desc of pypy more than just "python in python" [16:13] i had no idea there was a native machine jitter [16:14] jrwren: yea, it's pretty cool if you've got some cpu heavy stuff [16:15] it sounds awesome. [16:15] and has stackless options. [16:16] it's done wonders for the native python implementation of libraries [16:16] makes me want to try out a stackless greenlet-per-request server on it. [16:16] heh [16:16] well, ctypes are awesome. [16:36] anyone tried https://github.com/scrooloose/syntastic [16:41] rick_h: Not yet, but looks pretty interesting. [16:45] I like how terrified users get when I access the windows share and they realize I can inspect their entire PC at any time [16:46] heh [16:46] I used to get that when I took over their terminal server sessions [16:46] nothing like taking over their mouse and clicking wherever the #@$#@ you feel like in front of them, especially when they're remote [16:51] http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/rick-santorum-edges-mitt-romney-race-gop-presidential-nomination-poll-article-1.1022265?localLinksEnabled=false [16:51] As if Republicans weren't unlikely enough to win already [16:54] wtf do people think when they are on a corporate networK? [16:54] And this is why I use SSH tunnels whenever possible [16:54] i used to remove domain admins from my local administrator group to try to prevent some of that, but I know as an AD joined machine, they can apply a GPO at any time to add it back. [16:55] When they're on a corporate network on corporate machines [16:55] what I'm not sure about is if GPO can be applied without a reboot or relogin [16:55] It's not that I do things that I think need to be private, it's because I don't like to broadcast what I'm doing. [16:58] http://avinashsingh.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/a-myth-called-the-indian-programmer/ [16:59] Pretty broad strokes, but mirrors some of my experience. [17:00] That said, we did get some very bright folks over at Chrysler. [17:09] its a b.s. difference between "programmers" and "coders" [17:09] IME there is no difference. [17:09] the premise on which his post is written is a falacy [17:09] that said, I completely understand what he is saying :) [17:10] Yeah, the terminology is a bit wonky [17:12] It's a little disturbing that the term Coder is somehow the more derogatory form of programmer [17:12] its not in my book. [17:12] I think it is up to us to rectify that and come up with more derogatory terms [17:13] keyboard jockey, perhaps? [17:13] a top knoch coder is worth a ton [17:13] but IME great coders are also architects. [17:14] jcastro: Your post on "Your search sucks" is getting attention [17:21] snap-l: it's on the reddit front page! [17:21] good way to test me new blog, heh [17:22] jcastro: do you have any stats on the new blog? [17:22] just setup GA on it or something? [17:22] I do [17:22] in realtime. :) [17:22] heh [17:22] 75 people on right now [17:22] ok dammit, I can't get that syntastic to do auto checking, but runs manuall [17:22] grrrrr [17:23] I either have realtime or from yesterday, not today as a while [17:24] right [17:24] how did you do that? [17:24] build on GAE or something? [17:24] just using normal google analytics [17:24] GA has realtime beta stats now [17:24] the realtime is beta [17:24] it's pretty awesome [17:24] ah, i see [17:28] IT's not so awesome when you don't have people on your site. :) [17:28] well, I certainly wasn't expecting a redditing [17:29] jcastro: It's part of the Ubuntu Conspiracy [17:29] S3 delivers! [17:29] oh wait ... so much for being cheaper [17:29] See, you moved to the cloud stuff and THEN posted your most throught-provoking post yet. [17:29] get redditted the first day out the door [17:30] jcastro: Well, at least you're not trying to scale Tumblr [17:30] heh [17:30] and releasing the tumblebeasts [18:43] Apparently 1.4G takes a while to import into a MySQL database. ;) [18:43] snap-l: did you turn off logging first? [18:48] no, because I'm an idiot. [18:49] Actually, it's not turned on by default in 5.1 [18:49] I think they wised up [18:49] ah, yea should be able to turn off loggin, transactions, and crank an import pretty quick [18:54] Unfortunately I'm an hour into this [18:55] so I'm loathe to stop it on the off-chance that it's 90% done [18:56] And now that i look at how it's handling this (ls -al), I'm going to cut bait. [19:29] snap-l: we have a problem. [19:29] i'm going to be out of state weekend of global bug jam. [19:29] unless i have wrong day. [19:33] March 3-5? [19:33] jrwren: ^^ [19:34] :( [19:35] i'm pinging coworkers to see if someone can facilitate [19:35] i can't beleive i messed this up [19:36] we were looking at saturday noon to 5p, right? [19:36] jrwren: Yeah [19:36] Don't be hard on yourself. :) [19:38] gmail or decafbad ? [19:49] decafbad, please [19:49] damn, used gmail [19:50] sorry [19:50] err... no... was waiting to hear back before I hit send. [19:50] craig@ right? [19:52] Yep [19:52] That's OK, though - gmail forwards to decafb [19:52] as [19:53] bah, decafbad [19:56] jrwren: Did you send something to gmail? I've not received it [19:56] nah, had your email in the email to my coworkers in case they want to contact you [20:02] OK, no worries. [20:02] Thank you. :) [20:31] no LVM option in the default installer :( [20:31] I didn't realize this. [20:31] i'm nub [20:32] Yeah, you'll be better off using the alternate installer [20:42] i'll testdrive that next :) [22:29] 2009 subaru forester [22:31] sounds expensive [22:32] Sounds Asian! [22:32] * tjagoda has fierce Chrysler loyalty =( [22:33] always or just since they are italian? [22:36] Hey, man, its only 51%. ='( [22:39] brousch: coolness [22:51] rick_h: 6 cents [22:51] that's what my blog has cost me after reddit today [22:54] send them a bill [22:54] jcastro: :0 [22:54] :) [23:15] jcastro: only $14,000