[17:55] <Tubu> hi! is meeting today?
[17:59] <pleia2> almost meeting time :)
[18:00] <jledbetter> Mmhmm
[18:00] <pleia2> hey jledbetter
[18:00] <pleia2> ok, who all is here for the meeting?
[18:01] <jledbetter> o/
[18:01] <Tubu> :)
[18:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[18:01] <nigelb> I'm sorta here.
[18:02] <pleia2> #link http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda
[18:02] <pleia2> our agenda ^^
[18:02] <pleia2> which isn't much :) just update on blueprint items really
[18:02] <pleia2> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-p-ubuntu-women-project-goals
[18:04] <pleia2> #topic mentoring
[18:04] <akgraner> hi pleia2
[18:04]  * nigelb notes a task in his name.
[18:04] <pleia2> I spoke with akgraner about the mentoring program at SCALE
[18:04] <pleia2> akgraner: all yours!
[18:04] <akgraner> so after so research into mentoring - a formal program is not the best way for us to proceed
[18:05] <akgraner> the proven track record for programs like GSoC and GNOME mentoring does not indicate that a formal mentoring process helps retain people on a project etc
[18:05] <akgraner> what does is the informal programs
[18:06] <Tubu> bars meeting...
[18:06] <akgraner> so we are on the right track with our informal program
[18:06] <akgraner> we just need to clean it up and see who is available to help whom
[18:06] <akgraner> and often times people will be both a mentor and mentee
[18:07] <akgraner> so we'll need to ask for who wants to mentor in what subjects and make it known what we are doing
[18:07] <akgraner> thoughts
[18:07] <pleia2> where does this leave nigelb's blueprint items?
[18:08] <pleia2> [nigelbabu] reach out to the railsbridge / pystar communities about HOWTO's for running "women and friends" type events: TODO
[18:08] <pleia2> [nigelbabu] look into building a curriculum (http://pystar.org/ and http://railsbridge.org/): TODO
[18:08] <pleia2> I think the second is not so useful now
[18:08] <akgraner> rails actual is one that works, but it's the way they do theirs that works
[18:08] <akgraner> the events one yes
[18:09] <jledbetter> yes, rails has been very successful in event form
[18:09] <akgraner> +1
[18:09] <jledbetter> Pyladies has a good IRC and mailing list component to their events
[18:09] <pleia2> nigelb: can you still do reaching out to get some HowTos for running events?
[18:09] <nigelb> I need some help.
[18:09] <pleia2> jledbetter: can you help?
[18:10] <akgraner> so I'd say nigelb reach out to get more info  from them and that we as UW clean up our existing wikis and update our list of mentors and start talking about what we are able to do for the community as a whole etc
[18:10] <jledbetter> nigelb: What kind of help?
[18:10] <jledbetter> pleia2: Sure.
[18:10] <nigelb> jledbetter: I just need a hand since I'm overworked.
[18:11] <akgraner> freedeb is also involved with the rails community - jledbetter do you know her?
[18:11] <jledbetter> nigelb: Ok, ping me after the meeting so we can coordinate efforts :)
[18:11] <akgraner> If not I can put you in touch with her if needed
[18:11] <jledbetter> akgraner: No, don't think so.
[18:11] <nigelb> jledbetter: will do, thanks!
[18:11] <pleia2> akgraner: ok great, can you update the blueprint for your items (I think remove yours and change it to "research to determine whether we need formal program - result: no DONE" or somesuch)
[18:12] <akgraner> pleia2, sure can - then I'll go through our wiki's
[18:12] <akgraner> mentoring wiki's and make some notes
[18:13] <pleia2> I'll update the blueprint for other things now
[18:13] <akgraner> thanks
[18:14] <pleia2> #action akgraner to review wiki pages related to mentoring
[18:14] <meetingology> ACTION: akgraner to review wiki pages related to mentoring
[18:15] <pleia2> #info Based on retention research by akgraner we won't be doing a formal mentoring program, just continuing informal
[18:15] <pleia2> #action jledbetter to help nigelb with reaching out to other communities about HOWTO's for running "women and friends" type events
[18:15] <meetingology> ACTION: jledbetter to help nigelb with reaching out to other communities about HOWTO's for running "women and friends" type events
[18:15] <pleia2> ok, I think that's all of it
[18:15] <pleia2> #topic Website
[18:16] <pleia2> so we have our new wiki theme, people seem to like it
[18:16] <pleia2> but ubuntu-women.org is still our old branding site
[18:17] <pleia2> I worked with canonical IS to fix admin privs on the wiki, so we can now make pages immutable, so I'm thinking we continue working on making the main page http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ better, make it immutable except by admins (so it can't be destroyed by trolls) and then move www.ubuntu-women.org to point to it
[18:17] <pleia2> thoughts? questions?
[18:18] <Tubu> is is also moin system?
[18:19] <pleia2> yes, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ is using the theme you helped with
[18:19] <Tubu> ok... i still can help, then
[18:19] <jledbetter> Cool
[18:19] <pleia2> ubuntu-women.org itself is just a flat text html site
[18:20] <pleia2> which is only a single index page at this point, all the links in the menu either point to the wiki or elsewhere
[18:20] <pleia2> alright, I'll make this happen before our next meeting
[18:21] <pleia2> #action pleia2 to move forward with changes required to get ubuntu-women.org pointing to wiki.ubuntu-women.org
[18:21] <meetingology> ACTION: pleia2 to move forward with changes required to get ubuntu-women.org pointing to wiki.ubuntu-women.org
[18:21] <pleia2> #topic Wiki content improvements
[18:21] <pleia2> susan-spencer did a great job with http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/BestPractices
[18:22] <pleia2> Dolasilla sent an email on Jan 4th about the review she's been doing: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2012-January/003430.html
[18:22] <pleia2> replies to that would still be helpful
[18:23] <pleia2> and more volunteers to review content freshness would also be helpful
[18:23] <pleia2> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WeShouldFix is the current list of what needs to be worked on
[18:25] <pleia2> I think that's all with the blueprint
[18:25] <pleia2> #topic UDS Sponsorship
[18:25] <pleia2> applications for sponsorship are due by February 22nd (soon!)
[18:25] <pleia2> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS is our page about it
[18:26] <pleia2> and sponsorship link: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/
[18:26] <pleia2> we tried to answer most questions in the FAQ, but please feel free to let me know if you have questions :)
[18:26] <pleia2> I'm local to UDS this time so I'm hoping we can do a get-together at my place on Thursday evening
[18:30] <jledbetter> That'd be nice :)
[18:32] <pleia2> #topic any other announcements, comments, feedback
[18:34] <pleia2> anyone have anything? :)
[18:37] <jledbetter> Sounds like a nope.
[18:38] <pleia2> ok, thanks everyone!
[18:38] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[18:38] <jledbetter> Thank you for running it, pleia2 :)
[18:42]  * pleia2 hopes meetingology comes back so we can actually #endmeeting !
[18:42] <akgraner> :-)
[18:43] <pleia2> AlanBell: do you still run meetingology?
[18:43] <AlanBell> pleia2: yes
[18:43] <AlanBell> sorry
[18:44] <pleia2> help, please :)
[18:44] <AlanBell> it is on the server with ubottu, which is a bit unwell
[18:59] <pleia2> :\
[19:00] <Tubu> pleia2: maybe a copy/paste of the discussion would be a less lost of time...
[19:00] <Tubu> ;o)
[19:00] <pleia2> Tubu: yeah, I'll manually write the minutes and copy logs if needed, but I am still hoping the bot comes back and it's salvagable :)
[19:05] <Tubu> hm... who knows... maybe bots are now intelligent enought to take breaks and go for a walk or a coffee away... or even go on holiday without notice their human collegues...
[19:05] <pleia2> hehe
[19:10] <AlanBell> pleia2: the server filesystem went read only, I don't think it will have written any logs
[19:11] <pleia2> AlanBell: yikes :(
[19:11] <AlanBell> touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system
[19:11] <pleia2> I don't have time to write the minutes today, I'll try to get them done tomorrow
[21:42] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[21:43] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
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[21:43] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[21:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 14 21:43:05 2012 UTC.
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