| jschall | What's the safest way to install the latest nvidia beta (295.17)? | 00:52 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | Wait for it to land in xorg-edgers? :) | 00:55 |
| jschall | RAOF: using xorg-edgers is not safe. | 02:13 |
| jschall | RAOF: it is in xorg-edgers, but i don't want the rest of xorg-edgers | 02:13 |
| bryceh | jschall, then wait for it to land in x-updates | 02:16 |
| Sarvatt | it'll go in x-updates when its a stable release which shouldn't be too much longer, beta stuff doesn't go in x-updates | 02:21 |
| Sarvatt | (usually) | 02:21 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, right, then maybe x-testing? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/ppa | 02:23 |
| jschall | Is there a way to package the lastest nvidia driver beta in a .deb? I can't use xorg-edgers because the synaptics driver is broken for me. | 02:28 |
| bjsnider | i don't think it's going to provide any miracles | 02:34 |
| bjsnider | what are you expecting it to do? | 02:34 |
| bjsnider | there's a chance it would work if you just download the -edgers deb and manually install it | 02:36 |
| cnd | bryceh, RAOF: I sent out a proposal for some default setting changes in synaptics last week | 03:06 |
| cnd | there hasn't been any feedback so far | 03:07 |
| cnd | should I just make the changes? | 03:07 |
| cnd | they are two one-line changes | 03:07 |
| bryceh | cnd, I don't have an opinion on that | 03:10 |
| cnd | bryceh, you don't have an opinion on the settings,or whether I should just make the change? | 03:11 |
| bryceh | cnd, if you want to make the changes and just keep an eye on incoming bug reports, I'd be cool with it | 03:11 |
| cnd | ok | 03:11 |
| cnd | bryceh, you know which changes I'm referring to? | 03:11 |
| bryceh | nope | 03:11 |
| cnd | bryceh, locked drags when performing a tap and drag | 03:11 |
| bryceh | but I remember reading the proposal and deciding I didn't have an opinon on it ;-) | 03:11 |
| cnd | and disabling 3 touch click action | 03:12 |
| cnd | ahh | 03:12 |
| cnd | ok | 03:12 |
| cnd | probably the same as everyone else :) | 03:12 |
| bryceh | could be | 03:12 |
| bryceh | by locked drag what do you mean? | 03:13 |
| cnd | bryceh, when you tap and drag, you will continue dragging even after you lift up | 03:21 |
| cnd | you have to tap again to release the left button | 03:21 |
| cnd | so if you reach the end of the trackpad, you can continue to drag by lifing, reseting your finger elsewhere, and continuing to drag | 03:21 |
| RAOF | cnd: Hm. Have you noticed the xserver crashing with a null mask in positionSprite when scrolling with your -0ubuntu3 server? | 03:35 |
| cnd | RAOF, no, I haven't | 03:36 |
| cnd | but I don't check every X crash I get :) | 03:36 |
| RAOF | You'd notice this. Every time I two-finger scroll on this touchpad the server crashes. | 03:38 |
| RAOF | This might be my fault, though. I'm rebuilding without any of my patches and I'll scream at you if it still reproduces :) | 03:39 |
| cnd | heh, ok | 03:41 |
| cnd | RAOF, bryceh: btw, I'll be at a gtk hackfest this week, weekend, next week | 03:41 |
| cnd | I'll be on a plane wed | 03:41 |
| cnd | then hacking thurs - tues | 03:41 |
| cnd | then flying back wed | 03:41 |
| cnd | something like that | 03:41 |
| cnd | so if you can't reach me, that's why | 03:42 |
| RAOF | Oooh, multitouch in GTK? | 03:42 |
| RAOF | BAH! It turns out that my muscle memory includes ‘two finger scroll’ quite a lot. | 03:42 |
| cnd | RAOF, we'll be discussing it :) | 03:43 |
| RAOF | You haven't uploaded xserver 0ubuntu3 yet, have you? | 03:43 |
| cnd | RAOF, oh yeah | 03:43 |
| cnd | I made two uploads today IIRC | 03:44 |
| RAOF | Ok. I'll pull down the archive build of 0ubuntu3 then. | 03:44 |
| RAOF | *Very* carefully without scrolling. | 03:45 |
| RAOF | If this turns out to not be a problem with my patches, how long are you around? | 03:45 |
| cnd | RAOF, tomorrow? | 03:46 |
| RAOF | I was thinking more this evening. | 03:47 |
| cnd | hmm.. I wasn't hoping too long | 03:47 |
| cnd | but you can always ping me and hope :) | 03:47 |
| RAOF | I'll see if it *is* a problem in 0ubuntu3; if it is, I think it's the sort of thing that we should either fix ASAP or revert ASAP. | 03:47 |
| RAOF | Killing the server whenever you scroll is harmful for productivity :) | 03:48 |
| cnd | RAOF, when did this start happening? | 03:49 |
| RAOF | False alarm; I've clearly broken something while merging my patches on top of 0ubuntu3. | 03:51 |
| RAOF | cnd: Sorry for that! | 03:52 |
| cnd | RAOF, np :) | 03:52 |
| cnd | bryceh, can you paste me your synaptics caps from your dell netbook | 04:04 |
| cnd | dmesg | grep ynaptics | 04:04 |
| cnd | I want to try to verify some bits | 04:05 |
| bryceh | cnd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/841275/ | 04:13 |
| cnd | bryceh, thanks | 04:13 |
| cnd | looks to be the same as mine | 04:13 |
| dholbach | hi guys | 09:45 |
| dholbach | do we know anything about bug 931344? crash in XIGetDeviceProperty() | 09:46 |
| ubot4` | dholbach: Error: Bug #931344 not found. | 09:46 |
| dholbach | ubot4`, try harder :) | 09:46 |
| ubot4` | Factoid 'try harder :)' not found | 09:46 |
| RAOF | That seems an odd one to crash in. | 10:29 |
| dholbach | I've had it happen a couple of times already :-/ | 10:30 |
| dholbach | since maybe 3-4 days? | 10:30 |
| tjaalton | looks like a dupe in bug 931658 | 10:32 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 931658 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in XIChangeDeviceProperty() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931658 | 10:32 |
| tjaalton | hum no | 10:32 |
| dholbach | robbiew seems to have had a similar one (bug 931658) | 10:32 |
| dholbach | 931951 is probably a dup I filed, but it's not retraced yet | 10:33 |
| tjaalton | dholbach: hmm, x220 has a clickpad-type touchpad? | 10:50 |
| dholbach | hum, what does clickpad-type touchpad mean? | 10:51 |
| tjaalton | it doesn't have buttons | 10:51 |
| tjaalton | but you click the pad | 10:51 |
| dholbach | yes, the bottom of the touchpad serves as left-mouse-button | 10:52 |
| tjaalton | ok good | 10:52 |
| tjaalton | robbie has x220 tablet | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | so they are probably related to the new clickpad code | 10:53 |
| dholbach | ah ok, so the bugs are different | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | happening in different parts of the code, but could still be related.. | 10:55 |
| * dholbach nods | 10:55 | |
| dholbach | :-( | 11:48 |
| dholbach | arg | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | dholbach: try disabling the touchpad from bios, and use the nipple for now | 12:19 |
| dholbach | ok, next time it crashes, I'll do that | 12:20 |
| dholbach | this time it was compiz crashing | 12:20 |
| dholbach | XDefineCursor *shrugs* | 12:21 |
| seb128 | dholbach, bug number? | 12:44 |
| dholbach | seb128, 932024 | 13:15 |
| seb128 | dholbach, danke | 13:15 |
| tjaalton | subscribed ubuntu-x to mesa-demos bugmail | 15:17 |
| Sarvatt | cool, missed those. a lot of these can be closed | 15:22 |
| Sarvatt | so thats where all the fglrx bugs went | 15:22 |
| tjaalton | heh, yeah | 15:23 |
| tjaalton | i didn't notice it got split at some point | 15:23 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: can ya accept nominations on it? | 15:28 |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/926918 | 15:28 |
| ubot4` | Sarvatt: Error: Bug #926918 not found. | 15:28 |
| Sarvatt | fixed in precise but not oneiric | 15:29 |
| jcristau | bad ubot4`. | 15:29 |
| Sarvatt | jcristau: it was private because it had personal info, was my mistake | 15:29 |
| Sarvatt | linking before fixing that :) | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: sure. so marking fixed but leaving oneiric open? | 15:32 |
| Sarvatt | yeah fixed in ubuntu and precise tasks, easily can be srued to oneiric | 15:33 |
| tjaalton | if someone bothers to do it :) | 15:33 |
| Sarvatt | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?h=7.11&id=0e9b79c22a53efb8413ba6b4e49085a08221a5d3 is the fix | 15:33 |
| Sarvatt | yepyep | 15:33 |
| Sarvatt | i'm still fighting another mesa sru thats kicking my butt, fix after refactor ftw.. | 15:34 |
| Sarvatt | thats actually not even in a 7.11 release | 15:35 |
| Sarvatt | thats odd, almost all the bugs are private | 15:39 |
| Sarvatt | retracer not cleaning up after it? i thought that was automatic | 15:39 |
| tjaalton | cnd: hey, there are a couple of crashers that seem to have clickpad functionality in common | 15:39 |
| tjaalton | lots of "unable to find touch point 0" in the log, then segfault | 15:40 |
| cnd | tjaalton, hmm... are you sure they are clickpads? | 15:40 |
| tjaalton | one is an apple macbook, two are lenovo x220's | 15:40 |
| cnd | ok | 15:40 |
| Sarvatt | someone filed a MIR for mesa-demos, hmm | 15:41 |
| tjaalton | bug 931344 for instance | 15:41 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 931344 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in XIGetDeviceProperty() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931344 | 15:41 |
| Sarvatt | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92767242/XorgLogOld.txt | 15:41 |
| Sarvatt | hmm https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92806848/XorgLogOld.txt | 15:48 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: what about it? | 15:56 |
| Sarvatt | looks like the same thing but the bug was different | 15:56 |
| tjaalton | yeah, slightly | 15:56 |
| tjaalton | SegvAnalysis is ~identical though, but i've no idea if you can draw any conclusions from that.. | 15:58 |
| Sarvatt | that bcm5974 one was from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/931674 | 16:01 |
| ubot4` | Sarvatt: Error: Bug #931674 not found. | 16:01 |
| Sarvatt | argh why isn't apport unmarking private after it deletes the core dumps | 16:02 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: the upstream git browsing links on versions_current are wrong, cgit only these days it seems | 16:12 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton, bryceh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/841874/ ? | 16:17 |
| Sarvatt | or is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/841878/ | 16:18 |
| tjaalton | whaa, where's that script? | 16:19 |
| Sarvatt | arsenal | 16:19 |
| Sarvatt | lp:arsenal | 16:19 |
| tjaalton | ok | 16:19 |
| tjaalton | i'll steal it for freeipa :) | 16:19 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: if thats right, https://code.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/arsenal/fdo-url-fix | 16:23 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: careful lest you get ip banned from fdo like bryce did | 16:23 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: nah, fedorahosted :) | 16:24 |
| tjaalton | goes to the end of the todolist anyway | 16:24 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: btw do you use syncpackage? | 16:27 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: yep | 16:27 |
| Sarvatt | you can add -s launchpadid to sponsor, and -b bugnumber to close the bug automatically | 16:27 |
| tjaalton | yeah sorry for not giving you the credit :) | 16:28 |
| tjaalton | used -b | 16:28 |
| Sarvatt | oh cool, yeah i dont care at all just figured you didnt know in case you sponsor someone elses | 16:29 |
| Sarvatt | pretty sure i have enough uploads to not matter anymore | 16:29 |
| tjaalton | :) | 16:34 |
| Sarvatt | now to sell myself to the DMB, that part weirds me out enough that i haven't done it yet after going through it once before for membership | 16:35 |
| cnd | tjaalton, I have seen some crashes when devices are removed | 16:38 |
| cnd | haven't had a chance to track them down yet | 16:38 |
| cnd | that looks to be the same as the bug you showed me | 16:39 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, yeah, going before the DMB sucks | 16:39 |
| cnd | I got your back :) | 16:39 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: apparently there's an easy way to reproduce the removed device crashes, disable bluetooth on a system with your magic trackpad | 16:43 |
| cnd | ahh | 16:43 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, when I get a chance I'll look into it | 16:44 |
| cnd | I'll assign the bug to me | 16:44 |
| Sarvatt | vanhoof just hit it http://paste.ubuntu.com/841908/ | 16:44 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~sarvatt/patches/500_pointer_barrier_thresholds.diff refreshed for current xserver master | 16:52 |
| Sarvatt | after http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=42b6756463ee0476340656707f1088dc6c2fd220 | 16:53 |
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| Sarvatt | RAOF: scratch that, the newly uploaded http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~sarvatt/patches/500_pointer_barrier_thresholds.diff is the right fix for master, i refreshed 1.11's version and lost the swaps/swapl changes | 18:50 |
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| === jussio1 is now known as jussi | ||
| cnd | Sarvatt, do you use edge scrolling? | 22:45 |
| Sarvatt | 2 finger only | 22:46 |
| Sarvatt | got used to osx on this thing when i915 didnt work | 22:46 |
| Sarvatt | edge scrolling doesn't work, thats the first time i've noticed :P | 22:46 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: should i test something? i'm willing to purge edgers to test out something if it'd help | 22:48 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, ok, nm, I wondered if that's why the clickpad stuff wasn't working for you | 22:48 |
| cnd | I just found a bug if you have edge scrolling enabled | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | i'm actually using an ancient synaptics at the moment because you uploaded 1.5.99 as 1.5.0 | 22:49 |
| cnd | no need to reuse edgers for this | 22:49 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, that's cause debian hasn't updated to 1.5.99 yet | 22:49 |
| cnd | actually, I'm not sure synaptics 1.5.99 has been released yet... | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | it hasn't but its 1.5.99 in configure.ac so my scripts name it that | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | i tested your upstream-ubuntu with bryce's package debian/ the other day | 22:50 |
| Sarvatt | err synaptics-clickpad? whatever the one was that worked with 1.12 | 22:51 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, ahh, that stuff was old and had some issues | 22:52 |
| cnd | I'm ironing them out :) | 22:52 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, there was a specific issue with macbook trackpads that has been resolved | 22:52 |
| Sarvatt | is it in your PPA? | 22:52 |
| Sarvatt | or some branch I can pull? | 22:52 |
| Sarvatt | or patches on a list i should try? i'm gonna downgrade now | 22:53 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, I just pushed the latest stuff up to my git repo on freedesktop.org | 23:26 |
| cnd | if you're on upstream 1.12, use clickpad-v2 branch | 23:26 |
| cnd | if you're on precise's server, you can wait till I push out updates to my ppa | 23:26 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, hold off on that branch | 23:41 |
| cnd | I found a small issue | 23:41 |
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