[05:48] morning all === plustwo_ is now known as plustwo [07:02] hiya magespawn, morgs, maiatoday and plustwo [07:02] hi superfly [07:02] o/ hi superfly [07:02] * superfly needs to blog about the ubuntu hour [07:03] thanks again for organising saturday, superfly, I posted pics on my blog, you probably saw [07:03] maiatoday: I haven't had a chance to go look, actually [07:03] we should also add it to the monthly report [07:04] http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2012/02/feb-ubuntu-hour-rondebosch.html [07:04] we got a comment from jono bacon woohoo [07:04] :-D [07:05] * superfly sees all the spam on ubuntu-za and goes a-deleting again [07:06] No time for upgrades tonight though... [07:33] hi sakhi, Kilos [07:33] hiya maiatoday superfly sakhi [07:33] and other lurkers [07:33] lo mage [07:33] o/ [07:33] yo plustwo [07:33] magespawn, did you get the message [07:40] hi Kilos === dLimit_ is now known as dLimit [10:19] whew what a job to get here [10:19] my goodness gracious bloody dammit me [10:20] hi Kilos [10:20] what is sick, the internet or irc or freenode [10:20] what kind of job is that to cause your blood to boil? [10:20] hi psychicist [10:20] lol [10:20] i battled to get xchat to get here [10:21] now i've forgotten what i wanted to ask here [10:22] it looks like you won the first battle but didn't even want to take part in the second one [10:22] hehe [10:24] some rmote host fool kept closing the connection before i could get in [10:24] good mornings [10:24] remote [10:24] heh Kilos [10:24] lo inetpro you well [10:24] Kilos: always [10:25] ha ha except when you sore all over , either from falling off you trike or hiking [10:28] i need a separate class for lpi just to get to understand what you guys find as second nature [10:29] maybe i have bitten off more than i can chew without teeth [10:34] Kilos: I'm sure you'll manage [10:34] just don't be bothered by how fast others seem to be, and just read things thoroughly [10:35] will do [10:36] i just dont wanna hog the classes with basics [10:36] Kilos: if you don't ask, you'll never know [10:37] ty my friend [10:37] but i often miss the obvious, must drive you guys nuts [10:43] hi superfly [10:43] don't worry Kilos [10:44] hi inetpro [10:44] hi psychicist [10:44] I started out as a noob about 10 years ago, I can't remember how many times I killed my Linux systems and had to reinstall them again and in the process often my Windows OSes too if I managed to break my bootloaders [10:45] hehe i have had lotsa fun with bootloaders. but boot-repair has solved all of that [10:47] hi psychicist [10:48] psychicist: welcome to #ubuntu-za [10:48] thank you, inetpro [10:48] hehe he was that psycodroid inetpro [10:49] haha [10:49] Maaz, define psychicist [10:49] Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? [10:49] I can't connect using my phone here [10:49] it isn't, it's something I made up [10:49] psychicist, do you know maaz? [10:49] psychicist: what phone do you have? [10:49] Kilos, I've seen you use it before [10:50] superfly, a Samsung Galaxy Mini (GT-S5570 or something) [10:50] running Android? [10:50] yes [10:50] but an older release (2.2.1) [10:51] Dunno if you've used Quassel before, but it's an IRC bouncer system [10:51] psychicist, is that because of no signal there by you [10:51] or the software [10:51] you use Quassel Client on your desktop, running the Core on your server, and QuasselDroid on your phone [10:51] Kilos, because I don't have wireless here, I don't have a 3G data plan [10:52] oh cant you guys just use airtime to get data packages [10:52] oh, that's very nice, I will take a look at it [10:53] maybe [10:53] Kilos: psychicist is from Nederland, where their Internet is a tenth of the price of ours ;-) [10:53] I should be able to use the wireless here, but the signal isn't strong enough [10:53] really, is internet that expensive in South Africa? [10:53] ah [10:53] psychicist: probably [10:54] our mobile broadband is prohibitive [10:54] I don't know the prices in Nederland offhand, but SA is generally more expensive than anywhere else in the world [10:55] here you can generally get a 30 Mbs internet connection for about 25€ a month [10:55] psychicist: the fastest connection you can get here is 10Mbps [10:56] and mobile broadband maybe 10€-20€ a month for 2 GB of data [10:57] superfly, here you can get up to 100 Mbs for 50€, 10 years ago you would get 1 Mbs at most [10:57] wow [10:58] € whats that sign cents [10:58] ? [10:59] it's euro the currency for most countries in the European Union [11:00] and you pay R2359 per month for Uncapped on 10Mbps [11:00] oh ya [11:00] psychicist: that's 231 euros per month [11:01] superfly, that's prohibitively expensive [11:01] psychicist: exactly [11:01] psychicist: and that's the cheapest it has been in years [11:01] in fact, we never had uncapped until last year [11:01] I think we got lucky with the competition we have had here for the past 10 years or so [11:02] previously you could get about a 20gig cap [11:02] and that was the maz [11:02] *max [11:02] most people still only get a 0.3Mbps line with a 1GB cap [11:02] superfly, so you have a 0.3-1 Mbs connection currently? [11:03] wow, that feels like going back in time [11:03] me? no, I have a 3G connection at home because the telco won't install ADSL for me [11:04] i run my internet cafe on 1mbps uncapped for about R720 can not get 10 Mbps here [11:04] I can get 4Mbps, if they install ADSL [11:04] at R1000 per month, that's the cheapest I've ever paid for Internet [11:05] (real Internet, not this 0.3Mbps rubbish) [11:05] with the speed not being guaranteed [11:05] seriously expensive and slow stuff, I can see how most people would do without an internet connection at all [11:06] there is a satalite service launching this year that will do adsl type speeds for about the same cost [11:07] typing up the wall today [11:07] *satellite [11:08] bbl [11:11] will trying the commands in the lpi manual do any damage to my maverick [11:11] things like this [11:12] export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/:/opt/someapp/lib; [11:12] do you have the option to run things in a virtual machine? [11:18] nope [11:18] im saving a spare 6g drive to install centOS [11:18] lo Wolfeyes [11:20] if I could ship some spare hard drives I have lying around collecting dust to you, I would [11:21] lol [11:21] heya Kilos [11:22] hehe ty psychicist [11:38] oh my, here we go again [11:39] sup [11:39] Guest0295, there are no ladies here, this is a ubuntu OS help channel [11:40] if you use linux then welcome to ubuntu-za [11:40] what kind of help do you offer here [11:40] IT help [11:40] all linux help [11:41] IT is not = ladies lol, IT = Information Technology [11:42] eish so im in the wrong place here [11:42] Nodz [11:42] very definitely [11:43] how old are you guys? [11:43] 36 [11:43] 31 [11:44] 60 [11:44] And your self Guest0295 ? [11:45] There may or may not be ladies in here, but now they are hiding. :P [11:45] lol [11:45] damn im a matric student,who wants a bright future maybe might find it in IT [11:46] good field to go into Guest0295 [11:47] Guest0295: go to www.ubuntu.com download ubuntu and learn it [11:47] But theirz one problem thou [11:47] ? [11:48] @kilos,i took mathamatical literacy as a subject@superfly,ohk will do man [11:49] Kilos will 6gb be enough for cent os? [11:49] should be magespawn maverick fits fine [11:50] mm I ran Kubuntu from a 2gb but did not allow me to save much or change anything [11:53] well thats what i got so it will have to do. its mainly for the course not because i wanna change [11:53] magespawn: the live disk is about 2 gigs uncompressed, so it's no wonder [11:56] is chatmosphere part of bb default apps [11:56] lo dLimit wb [11:57] magespawn, you got uncapped hey [11:57] get centOS and check it out [11:58] quick quick , coz I take 4 months :-P [11:58] he he [11:58] lol [11:59] you gotta post it or get work in the area Wolfeyes [11:59] lol [11:59] I will see what I can do [12:01] you should also try see if any linux places want to quote for your stuff [12:01] i dunno who would be best to ask where [12:01] Where are they? [12:01] Anyone that needs time and attendance. === dLimit_ is now known as dLimit [12:02] maybe the lists at ubuntu [12:02] the main lists are worldwide [12:02] Lol. See [12:02] i think they are lists.ubuntu.com [12:03] s me flying to middle africa lol. [12:03] sa peeps never have time for extra stuff [12:03] I will go see. [12:03] lol [12:03] Maaz is tired of making tes ha ha ha [12:03] tea* [12:04] it would be the answer to get everything linux based [12:04] magespawn, coffee on [12:04] now ask for tea [12:04] oh he split [12:04] ha ha ha [12:05] * JabberwockyA19 wonders if guest0295 did a /list on freenode from his phone [12:05] i dunno how they all end up here [12:05] but they seem to think this is a dating site [12:05] Maaz, wb [12:05] Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend [12:06] hee hee [12:06] Maaz, coffee on [12:06] * Maaz washes some mugs [12:06] Wolfeyes, now ask for tea [12:06] * Kilos wonders where the crash kid is [12:08] Maaz, tea please [12:08] As soon as the kettle boils I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already [12:09] well thats all it takes to make tea anyway [12:09] lol [12:10] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [12:10] Maaz, gracias amigo [12:10] ¡de nada compadre [12:10] he must have got the coffee bags mixed with the tea again! [12:11] magespawn, free xchat [12:11] oh.... [12:11] it was you hey? [12:11] yup [12:11] * Wolfeyes goes to look... [12:11] that silversomething link [12:12] got xchat2 from one of those sites [12:12] Maaz, google free xchat for windows [12:12] Kilos: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "Download - X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/download/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "XChat for Windows (Win32)" http://www.psyon.org/projects/xchat-win32/ :: "XChat 2 Build Lineup for Windows" http://b0at.tx0.org/xchat/ :: "xchat-wdk - Google Code" http://code.google.c [12:12] yup the first one [12:12] Wolfeyes, uses one that doesnt want anything [12:13] lets see if he can find it [12:13] yup only the second one wants the money after a trial of 30 days [12:13] oh is the first one free? [12:13] as far as i can see [12:13] ja, download x-chat from silverx.org [12:14] there then you can save the $19.99 [12:14] http://www.silverex.org/download/ [12:14] second one is technically free as the give a download for the source [12:14] but not for their compiled version [12:14] wb cocooncrash [12:15] whew [12:15] wb tumbleweed [12:17] Kilos: ta [12:31] Kilos did me get any more info n the accounts on the linux studies site? [12:32] yip its working [12:32] cool [12:32] didnt you get the email?? [12:32] has to be manually accepted [12:32] will check again [12:32] thank the fly [12:33] he is the one who decides if peeps are worthy of using the site [12:33] hehe [12:33] yeesh, I think I need to disable memcached completely, it's killing the site when you first load it up [12:34] ya its slow to open but not bad after superfly [12:34] you can disable my 30 day goodie though [12:35] never know when i might miss a month [12:38] yup got the mail ty superfly [12:38] * inetpro wonders what limits are set by the dLimit factor [12:38] definitely not onna par with the 365 [12:38] lol [12:38] the sky is dLimit [12:39] :-) [12:40] psychicist, maybe you wanna get in on that site too [12:41] magespawn, give the address please [12:41] linbrb [12:42] http://linux-studies.za.net/ [12:43] * Kilos wonders if armand is gonna make it or if he has also forgotten [12:43] thanks, Kilos [12:44] I was just figuring out a problem with OpenOffice.org here at the office [12:44] http://linux-studies.za.net [12:44] yw psychicist you register and wait for the second mail [12:44] unfortunately LibreOffice as shipped with Kubuntu and also Ubuntu is buggy so I had to uninstall it [12:45] the first one wont let you in till you have been manually accepted [12:45] ou [12:46] brb [13:01] brb [13:36] emacs fundie arounf here? [13:37] *around [14:39] Maaz, announce LPI classes tonight on #linux-studies all you interested peeps. Q+A on section 101 of the manual [14:39] Announcement from Kilos! LPI classes tonight on #linux-studies all you interested peeps. Q+A on section 101 of the manual [14:39] those who dunno- come and learn [14:40] those who do know-come and teach [14:49] hello [14:50] hi afrodeity [14:51] hi kilos [14:51] was wondering if ubuntu channel was still up [14:51] how things? [14:52] all good here ty. seen you in and out mosta the day [14:53] and your side? [14:53] i couldn't ssh while watching youtube vid last nite, so tried irc to test bandwit [14:54] seems as if mweb have issue with multiple threads [14:54] otherwise everything ok ty [14:54] good [14:55] you in oz now? [14:55] na waiting for visa peeps [14:55] got my passport finally [14:55] lol the can mess around hey [14:56] *they [14:56] home affairs is looking great, got a huge makover [14:56] môre is nog n dag [14:56] slaap goed [14:56] yeah they just dont rush at all [14:57] they now have a person who gives you a number when you arrive [14:57] but the sytem seams good [14:57] there's a video screen and an English voice calling the numbes [14:57] yes [14:57] wow [14:57] only thing worrying me was the stream of people applying for permanent residence [14:58] where? [14:58] home affairs [14:58] very easy [14:58] perm residence in home affairs [14:58] whew [14:58] camping out [14:59] where they all wanna go? [14:59] the queue for blikkies they handing out as homes [14:59] ah [15:00] anyways, I gotto go boil a kettle and make tea [15:00] :) [15:00] whats happening about the free bandwidth [15:00] you still do that hey? [15:01] za-free [15:01] yep [15:01] its time you attack the cellphone providers [15:01] no need to, we got fabfi [15:01] whats that [15:03] later all [15:04] bake your own mobile network [15:04] later magespawn [15:04] how does that connect through existing towers? [15:04] it doesn't [15:05] so what does it connect to then and where you get the sim cards [15:05] no sim card, you have antenna and receiver [15:05] like fee satellite [15:06] free [15:07] wow where can i find out more [15:10] i see $60 per node [15:11] and then the cost of the antennae and receiver [15:11] sjoe [15:28] hmm... [15:28] * inetpro likes the announce feature but how do I learn more about it [15:29] about what inetpro [15:29] cocooncrash: what plugin contains the announce feature? [15:29] Kilos: the announce feature of Maaz [15:30] sjoe [15:30] hasnt your bot got it [15:30] Kilos: how did you learn about it? [15:30] I'm looking in my bot but can't find it [15:30] i watche3d others do it [15:30] just tell it announce [15:31] aint werking [15:31] aw [15:31] do you see what i tell him to announce [15:31] Kilos: yep [15:32] will see if I have time [15:32] you gotta be there [15:32] ons is min [15:33] i will try get the monkey to discuss with all what is the best time [15:33] tumbleweed: how do I enable/use the announce feature in ibid? [15:33] Maaz: literal announce $arg [15:33] marcog: 1: Announcement from $who! $1, 2: Hear ye, hear ye! $1 [15:33] inetpro: it's just a factoid [15:34] marcog: hmm... I thought so but somehow missed it, thanks [15:37] hi marcog dont you also wanna join the lpi classes [15:38] who here at ubuntu-za already has the certificate [15:40] hi nlsthzn [15:41] hope you been sleeping [15:50] nuvolari, gaan jy dit maak vanaand [16:50] Kilos hello [16:51] hiya kbmonkey welcome to ubuntu-za [16:51] hehe [16:52] Kilos, where is the the lessons please? [16:52] Maaz, lpi manual [16:52] http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual [16:53] Wolfeyes, you on another pc [16:53] yes [16:53] ah [16:53] not the manual, the study room? [16:53] with free xchat [16:53] hehe [16:54] Wolfeyes #linux-studies [16:54] #linux-studies [16:54] ok [16:54] ty [16:54] hahaha [17:28] o/ [17:28] where do I sign up again? [17:28] Kilos: naand oom [17:29] ek gaan hier wees in gees [17:29] o/ [17:29] maar ek't so baie dinge wat vanaand moet klaar kom :-/ [17:29] naand nuvolari #linux-studies [17:29] lo apie [17:29] gaan dit goed? [17:30] hmm, I'm missing something. why can't I join? [17:30] it goes well, that side must be busy then ey [17:30] hoi nuvolari [17:30] met mij gaat het goed, hoe gaat het met jou? [17:30] hi kbmonkey [17:31] psychicist: dit gaat goed dankie [17:31] * nuvolari wonder of hy psychicist ken [17:31] nuvolari, /join #linux-studies [17:31] ek kan nie oom [17:31] o wag, [17:32] hi psychicist [17:32] what says it nuvo? [17:33] * psychicist kent nuvolari niet, want hij komt zelf uit Nederland [17:33] welkom! [17:33] ek nie kan afrikaans spreek nie! [17:33] dankie! [17:34] ons verstaan :] [17:34] :D [17:34] psychicist: yup, verstaan goed genoeg! [17:34] verstaan jy ons? [17:34] nuvolari, ik versta bijna alles wat jullie zeggen [17:35] irc: channel "#linux-studies" not found for "privmsg" command [17:35] irc: failed to parse command "PRIVMSG" (please report to developers): [17:35] kbmonkey: ^^ [17:36] wow [17:36] psychicist: wel, afrikaans is van nederlands afkomstig. nie? [17:36] is that when you /join? [17:36] oh on pm [17:36] nuvolari, dat is inderdaad zo, maar de grammatica van afrikaans is simpeler [17:36] what could that be [17:37] kbmonkey: I see all the messages [17:37] some of it === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [17:38] did I miss anything? [17:38] :P [17:40] psychicist: een van my vriendinne was 'n ruk terug in Holland, ek dink. Sy studeer Nederlands op universiteit [17:40] you might have missed your part and join messages, if you weren't paying attention :) [17:40] nuvolari, dat is echt leuk, vond ze het moeilijk om Nederlands te leren? [17:40] lol he always multitasks and forgets [17:41] Kilos: you skinnering about me oom? [17:41] ha ha ha [17:41] psychicist: what's the english for leuk? [17:42] psychicist: ek dink nie sy vind dit moeilik nie [17:42] nuvolari, nice or fun [17:42] psychicist: wow, quite different from the afrikaans 'leuk' [17:42] which is someone that doesn't know much [17:42] oh, I see how that might have confused you [17:43] but I can see where it might come from [17:43] might have come* [17:43] leuk, lekker? [17:43] lekker is afrikaans for nice :P [17:43] because leuk is also a word from someone you like (= leuk vinden) [17:44] for* [17:44] ah cool [17:44] psychicist: will we see you around? [17:44] * nuvolari needs to get some work done [17:55] are the netsplits between the irc/freenode servers [17:55] oh my [17:56] which actual nets are splitting [17:57] psychicist, you been splitted [18:01] Kilos, I see [18:02] I just reconnected to another server as soon as I found out my connection was lagging [18:02] ah there were lotsa netsplits here [18:09] yikes! [18:10] * inetpro almost got very lonely [18:10] lol [18:10] bad splits === nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn [21:03] Night