| TheMuso | ScottL: Ok uploaded, but it hasn't shown up on the revu page yet... | 00:26 |
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| holstein | len-1204: YO | 01:18 |
| holstein | len-1204: you want to go through the text with me? | 01:18 |
| holstein | len: | 01:18 |
| holstein | i think i have the shots straight and cropped | 01:19 |
| len-1204 | holstein: ok | 01:28 |
| holstein | len-1204: you doing well? | 01:29 |
| holstein | let me move this to a shared google doc... | 01:29 |
| len-1204 | Ok, | 01:30 |
| len-1204 | I hope I can remember my log in :-) | 01:30 |
| holstein | len-1204: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit | 01:32 |
| holstein | i dont think anyone it here will mess with us :) | 01:32 |
| len-1204 | Are you going with things in the order they are? | 01:33 |
| holstein | len-1204: thats just the way the pics are | 01:34 |
| holstein | i dont think thats the order | 01:34 |
| holstein | the final order or whatever | 01:34 |
| len-1204 | Ok, I would say put audio together and photo together etc. | 01:34 |
| holstein | len-1204: if you want, put a # out in front of the entry in whatever order you think thy should be in | 01:35 |
| holstein | and ill drag them around | 01:35 |
| len-1204 | Do you have a ustudio main one? | 01:35 |
| holstein | len-1204: hmmm not really | 01:36 |
| holstein | len-1204: do you want to take one from the live CD? | 01:36 |
| len-1204 | All there are that I can find is backgrounds | 01:38 |
| holstein | len-1204: thats probably fine | 01:40 |
| holstein | len-1204: how about just whatever you want to have | 01:40 |
| len-1204 | The one in ubuntu is very simple. I would almost go with the bottom left corner of ubuntustudio-ayo.png | 01:42 |
| len-1204 | I don't seem to be able to enter text on the doc. | 01:42 |
| len-1204 | do you have to share it or some thing | 01:43 |
| holstein | len-1204: do you have a google account? | 01:43 |
| len-1204 | I just sent it to you... lenovens@gmail.com | 01:44 |
| holstein | len-1204: ok.. you should be juiced up | 01:45 |
| len-1204 | I'll try. | 01:45 |
| ScottL | i worry that i'm in over my head on the theming because the live-dvd doesn't look like xubuntu at all, it looks like the default xfce stuff | 01:47 |
| holstein | len-1204: i can size it or whatever | 01:50 |
| len-1204 | Yes it is xfceish | 01:51 |
| len-1204 | holstein: I'm not thinking size just yet, just thinking story line | 01:52 |
| ScottL | len-1204, how you tried xubuntu yet? 11.04, 11.10, or 12.04 are all good indicators | 01:52 |
| ScottL | the xubuntu/shimmer team have done a good job with their theme | 01:53 |
| len-1204 | IScottL: I use 11.10 on my notebook. | 01:53 |
| len-1204 | oops ScottL | 01:54 |
| len-1204 | I seem to have lost my back logging | 01:54 |
| len-1204 | ScottL: Do you have a xubuntu installed somewhere? | 01:58 |
| len-1204 | They tend to use their own data directories. | 01:59 |
| len-1204 | Then set the path to that instead. | 02:00 |
| len-1204 | They are assuming a fresh install or upgrade from xubuntu. | 02:00 |
| len-1204 | Not putting kubuntu in (for example) and upgrading to xubuntu or putting xubuntu metas on top. | 02:01 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: Ok, linux-lowlatency uploaded and now on revu. | 02:05 |
| holstein | W00T! | 02:06 |
| len-1204 | Great! | 02:06 |
| len-1204 | holstein: how does it look so far? | 02:07 |
| holstein | len-1204: im liking it! | 02:08 |
| ScottL | holstein, len-1204 : the kernel is NOT in the repos | 02:12 |
| ScottL | it is just available for people to look at it and comment and/or approve it | 02:13 |
| len-1204 | One step at a time... | 02:13 |
| ScottL | len-1204, yeah, i started with the xubuntu -default-settings and -artwork packages and tried to parse those into our package structure, but i apparently didn't do something right :/ | 02:13 |
| ScottL | len-1204, very true about one step :) | 02:14 |
| holstein | revu is a good start ScottL :) | 02:15 |
| ScottL | i agree | 02:18 |
| ScottL | but i worry that we apparently have until only thursday to get it approved and uploaded :/ | 02:18 |
| len-1204 | We hsould have Lyx included. | 02:19 |
| len-1204 | *should | 02:19 |
| holstein | len-1204: you got text on everything :) | 02:19 |
| len-1204 | Does the story work? | 02:20 |
| holstein | https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit | 02:20 |
| holstein | len-1204: im going to put it in order now | 02:20 |
| len-1204 | Those are pretty short blurbs | 02:20 |
| len-1204 | I need to get some supper for my boys, Mom is out for the evening. | 02:21 |
| holstein | len-1204: how do you feel about !'s? | 02:22 |
| holstein | A whole studio on your computer! for example | 02:23 |
| holstein | len-1204: also.. id like to change... | 02:24 |
| holstein | For ease of recording keyboards, midi tracking is the way to go. Use the provided sound modules or you own external boxes | 02:24 |
| holstein | Use the provided sound modules or you own external boxes to make MIDI and MIDI sequencing easy. | 02:25 |
| holstein | NM.. this... | 02:27 |
| holstein | Use provided software synthesisers or your own external sound modules to make MIDI sequencing easy. | 02:27 |
| holstein | len-1204: OK.. i made a few tweaks | 02:31 |
| holstein | i like it! | 02:31 |
| holstein | # 3 is the one id like to change though | 02:32 |
| len-1204 | Ja, do it. | 02:35 |
| holstein | len-1204: COOL! | 02:36 |
| holstein | len-1204: im going to ping knome about it | 02:37 |
| holstein | knome: we got something... https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit | 02:37 |
| holstein | len-1204: thanks *so* much! | 02:39 |
| len-1204 | holstein: No problem... just jabber. | 03:14 |
| ScottL | i'm going to poke cjwatson to help about the ubiquity problems and a few others, at least he can tell me who to poke in turn at least | 03:52 |
| ScottL | but i really, really want to make progress again | 03:52 |
| ScottL | i think i'm going to skip doing the RPM challenege to focus on ubuntu studio | 03:52 |
| ScottL | but don't tell ricardus, holstein ;) | 03:52 |
| holstein | :/ | 03:53 |
| holstein | ScottL: just knock something live out like im going to do :) | 03:54 |
| len-1204 | ScottL: ping | 04:46 |
| len-1204 | Sorry prolly too late. | 04:46 |
| len-1204 | Anyway, should you read this when you get up.... looking at the differences from US to XU, I can see that XU seems to have pretty much left the /etc/xdg directory alone. they have put everything in a sub directory. We have tried to follow that style, but left lots in the xdg dir as well. | 04:49 |
| len-1204 | This means that we have to leave /etc/xdg in the path. I don't think XU has. | 04:50 |
| len-1204 | I would make one change in what you have there. | 04:50 |
| len-1204 | In the file xfwm4.xml, I would change <property name="theme" type="string" value="greybird"/> | 04:52 |
| len-1204 | I would change greybird to default. | 04:53 |
| len-1204 | I would still use greybird in the xsettings.xml file though. | 04:54 |
| len-1204 | The backdrop is a hard pick between olis (what you have) and ayo (what I happen have here right now) | 04:57 |
| len-1204 | So I would leave it. | 04:59 |
| len-1204 | Hmm, in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25ubuntustudio-menu | 05:09 |
| len-1204 | you have included /etc/xdg but not /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio | 05:10 |
| len-1204 | I can't find where XU sets path. | 05:19 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: So I am about to go afk for a while, maybe the rest of the day. Now that the kernel is on revu, its time to get someone else to look at it. I may be able to poke people tomorrow, but if you could ask around as well, that would be much appreciated. | 05:47 |
| knome | holstein, okay, thanks. i'll sort it out today | 10:25 |
| knome | scott-work, ScottL ? | 11:37 |
| knome | holstein too | 11:46 |
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| scott-work | knome: ping | 14:51 |
| holstein | knome: thanks! | 15:19 |
| holstein | im around later, so if i need to tweak something, let me know | 15:19 |
| holstein | scott-work: i think we should be ready for a media response if that kernel doesnt make it through | 15:37 |
| scott-work | #ubuntu-motu | 16:16 |
| scott-work | okay, poking people about the kernel now in #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-kernel | 16:18 |
| holstein | scott-work: :) | 16:19 |
| holstein | im still on a rather non-technical level with that im afraid, but if i can help with the poking, let me know | 16:19 |
| scott-work | i'm going to hit cjwatson up later today i think to ask for help on the ubiquity crashes and a few other things because i bloody want this release to work! | 16:20 |
| holstein | scott-work: im still *so* excited about it | 16:20 |
| scott-work | i'd like to start pokign some of the xubuntu/shimmer guys for help with the theme because it is still not fooking working at all! | 16:20 |
| holstein | that live CD loading up just got me going! | 16:20 |
| holstein | for me, the biggest deal breakers in look and feel are the wallpaper, and the login hot-pink screen... that little main menu XFCE icon would be nice to change to the old studio one too | 16:23 |
| scott-work | holstein: yes, those are things i want to change | 16:31 |
| holstein | i dont mind the general theme at all | 16:31 |
| holstein | the icons or whatever | 16:31 |
| holstein | i mean, they "work" | 16:31 |
| holstein | i guess what im talking about is more branding and de-branding | 16:32 |
| holstein | it would be nice if, as an alternative, a xubuntu user could install ubuntustudio-desktop or whatever and just get our UI | 16:33 |
| scott-work | holstein: i think the current theme is shit and it isn't what i want at all | 16:35 |
| scott-work | holstein: if you are seeing what i'm seeing, that is | 16:35 |
| holstein | not sure | 16:35 |
| scott-work | it looks like the default xfce stuff coming in and not the xubuntu theme | 16:35 |
| holstein | its just one of the default ones | 16:35 |
| holstein | but when i login as ubuntustudio session, its darker | 16:36 |
| scott-work | what i want is xubuntu theme just like when you pop in the xubuntu live cd | 16:36 |
| holstein | scott-work: my install is kind of borked right now | 16:36 |
| holstein | i might need to reinstall | 16:36 |
| scott-work | i haven't been able to get an install to work for a while either, that's why i want to poke cjwatson about this | 16:36 |
| scott-work | how can i fix the theme if i can't get a working install? | 16:37 |
| holstein | i check in ubuntu+1, but i think we have special breakages :) | 16:37 |
| holstein | scott-work: i know right :/ | 16:37 |
| holstein | ScottL: question... can we get audactiy beck in the default install? | 18:37 |
| holstein | audacity* | 18:37 |
| holstein | i seem to remember there being a decent reason why it was pulled, i just cant remember it | 18:38 |
| holstein | cfhowlett: i found http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.ubuntu-studio/2733 | 18:39 |
| cfhowlett | ScottL: I'm a user, not a dev. If my first exposure to audio editing had been ardour, I'd have run away in fear. Audacity is much easier for new users. Audio engineers can still add ardour in post-installation. Just my $0.02 that a Digital Media distro pretty much MUST include Audacity. | 18:40 |
| cfhowlett | holstein: reading. tyvm | 18:40 |
| holstein | im going to post some lines here for scott-work | 18:41 |
| holstein | 13:37 < holstein> ScottL: question... can we get audactiy beck in the default install? | 18:41 |
| holstein | 13:37 < holstein> audacity* | 18:41 |
| holstein | 13:38 < holstein> i seem to remember there being a decent reason why it was pulled, i just cant remember it | 18:41 |
| holstein | 13:39 < holstein> cfhowlett: i found http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.ubuntu-studio/2733 | 18:41 |
| holstein | 13:40 < cfhowlett> ScottL: I'm a user, not a dev. If my first exposure to audio editing had been ardour, I'd have run away in fear. Audacity is much easier for new users. Audio engineers can still add ardour in post-installation. Just my $0.02 that a Digital Media distro pretty much MUST include Audacity. | 18:41 |
| holstein | sorry for the ugly non-pastbin pasting :/ | 18:41 |
| scott-work | it's okay, we're going to add audacity back | 18:42 |
| holstein | scott-work: cool, i just couldnt remember where we had landed with it | 18:42 |
| cfhowlett | scott-work: yay! Audacity and Gimp are my go to apps for demo'ing cool US stuff to new users. Happy it's back! | 18:42 |
| holstein | cfhowlett: feel free and hang over here too | 18:50 |
| holstein | you ave really helping out a lot in the main support channel, and we appreciate it ! | 18:50 |
| holstein | you are* | 18:50 |
| cfhowlett | *blushes* | 18:50 |
| holstein | scott-work = ScottL = the ubuntustudio team lead | 18:51 |
| cfhowlett | holstein: Kinda figured. :) | 18:51 |
| knome | scott-work, greybird? we've made some changes to that to fix (mostly) gtk3, you should probably ask micahg to pull those for you as well | 19:24 |
| knome | scott-work, you still online? holstein, or you? :) | 19:25 |
| holstein | whats up? | 19:25 |
| holstein | knome: im about to run | 19:25 |
| knome | do you have more time later then? | 19:26 |
| holstein | knome: in like 8 hours | 19:26 |
| knome | it's nothing critical | 19:26 |
| holstein | are you aroung then? | 19:26 |
| holstein | or tomorrow morning | 19:26 |
| holstein | im loose then for about 2 hours | 19:26 |
| knome | probably not, it's 5:30am then ;) | 19:26 |
| holstein | hmmm | 19:26 |
| knome | <- UTC+2 | 19:26 |
| knome | but tomorrow morning might be okay, at what time? | 19:26 |
| holstein | my 10:30 am ish | 19:27 |
| holstein | EST | 19:27 |
| holstein | 20 hours from now? | 19:27 |
| knome | ok, sounds like it could work :) | 19:27 |
| knome | ping me then | 19:27 |
| holstein | knome: will do! | 19:27 |
| knome | thanks | 19:27 |
| holstein | laters | 19:27 |
| knome | see you | 19:27 |
| micahg | the theme changes shouldn't need "pulling in", otherwise, we as Xubuntu are doing something wrong with the packaging | 19:28 |
| knome | ah, right, so studio is inheriting? | 19:28 |
| knome | in that case some of it might just not be *pushed* yet :) | 19:28 |
| knome | but ochosi and mr_pouit have been working a lot on greybird lately | 19:29 |
| scott-work | knome: sorry, i'm here | 19:42 |
| scott-work | the problem i believe we are having is that the theme is not being set | 19:42 |
| scott-work | when you start the live -dvd you get asked about panel layout, i.e. "choose empy, default, or one panel" | 19:43 |
| scott-work | i'm guessing i probably need to talk to ochosi or mrprout for these though | 19:44 |
| knome | yeah | 19:49 |
| knome | so | 19:49 |
| knome | scott-work, bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/precise | 19:50 |
| knome | scott-work, then run test-slideshow.sh and select ubuntu studio | 19:50 |
| scott-work | knome: this is unreleated to theme, this is just to test the slide show, correct? | 19:52 |
| knome | yeah, that's correct | 19:53 |
| * scott-work will have to wait until home and test it on his ubuntu machine | 19:53 | |
| knome | i'm not that aware about the theme issues | 19:53 |
| knome | sure | 19:53 |
| knome | when will you be home? | 19:53 |
| scott-work | knome: less than four hours | 19:53 |
| knome | okay, can you ping me then and we can go through a few things | 19:54 |
| scott-work | knome: sure :) | 19:57 |
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| knome | meh. i'm going to sleep. see you all tomorrow. | 23:39 |
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