[00:26] ScottL: Ok uploaded, but it hasn't shown up on the revu page yet... [01:18] len-1204: YO [01:18] len-1204: you want to go through the text with me? [01:18] len: [01:19] i think i have the shots straight and cropped [01:28] holstein: ok [01:29] len-1204: you doing well? [01:29] let me move this to a shared google doc... [01:30] Ok, [01:30] I hope I can remember my log in :-) [01:32] len-1204: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit [01:32] i dont think anyone it here will mess with us :) [01:33] Are you going with things in the order they are? [01:34] len-1204: thats just the way the pics are [01:34] i dont think thats the order [01:34] the final order or whatever [01:34] Ok, I would say put audio together and photo together etc. [01:35] len-1204: if you want, put a # out in front of the entry in whatever order you think thy should be in [01:35] and ill drag them around [01:35] Do you have a ustudio main one? [01:36] len-1204: hmmm not really [01:36] len-1204: do you want to take one from the live CD? [01:38] All there are that I can find is backgrounds [01:40] len-1204: thats probably fine [01:40] len-1204: how about just whatever you want to have [01:42] The one in ubuntu is very simple. I would almost go with the bottom left corner of ubuntustudio-ayo.png [01:42] I don't seem to be able to enter text on the doc. [01:43] do you have to share it or some thing [01:43] len-1204: do you have a google account? [01:44] I just sent it to you... lenovens@gmail.com [01:45] len-1204: ok.. you should be juiced up [01:45] I'll try. [01:47] i worry that i'm in over my head on the theming because the live-dvd doesn't look like xubuntu at all, it looks like the default xfce stuff [01:50] len-1204: i can size it or whatever [01:51] Yes it is xfceish [01:52] holstein: I'm not thinking size just yet, just thinking story line [01:52] len-1204, how you tried xubuntu yet? 11.04, 11.10, or 12.04 are all good indicators [01:53] the xubuntu/shimmer team have done a good job with their theme [01:53] IScottL: I use 11.10 on my notebook. [01:54] oops ScottL [01:54] I seem to have lost my back logging [01:58] ScottL: Do you have a xubuntu installed somewhere? [01:59] They tend to use their own data directories. [02:00] Then set the path to that instead. [02:00] They are assuming a fresh install or upgrade from xubuntu. [02:01] Not putting kubuntu in (for example) and upgrading to xubuntu or putting xubuntu metas on top. [02:05] ScottL: Ok, linux-lowlatency uploaded and now on revu. [02:06] W00T! [02:06] Great! [02:07] holstein: how does it look so far? [02:08] len-1204: im liking it! [02:12] holstein, len-1204 : the kernel is NOT in the repos [02:13] it is just available for people to look at it and comment and/or approve it [02:13] One step at a time... [02:13] len-1204, yeah, i started with the xubuntu -default-settings and -artwork packages and tried to parse those into our package structure, but i apparently didn't do something right :/ [02:14] len-1204, very true about one step :) [02:15] revu is a good start ScottL :) [02:18] i agree [02:18] but i worry that we apparently have until only thursday to get it approved and uploaded :/ [02:19] We hsould have Lyx included. [02:19] *should [02:19] len-1204: you got text on everything :) [02:20] Does the story work? [02:20] https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit [02:20] len-1204: im going to put it in order now [02:20] Those are pretty short blurbs [02:21] I need to get some supper for my boys, Mom is out for the evening. [02:22] len-1204: how do you feel about !'s? [02:23] A whole studio on your computer! for example [02:24] len-1204: also.. id like to change... [02:24] For ease of recording keyboards, midi tracking is the way to go. Use the provided sound modules or you own external boxes [02:25] Use the provided sound modules or you own external boxes to make MIDI and MIDI sequencing easy. [02:27] NM.. this... [02:27] Use provided software synthesisers or your own external sound modules to make MIDI sequencing easy. [02:31] len-1204: OK.. i made a few tweaks [02:31] i like it! [02:32] # 3 is the one id like to change though [02:35] Ja, do it. [02:36] len-1204: COOL! [02:37] len-1204: im going to ping knome about it [02:37] knome: we got something... https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZNRuuoM5RvodxItTKXzPKTV__58Ap_qMzRdLanb87A/edit [02:39] len-1204: thanks *so* much! [03:14] holstein: No problem... just jabber. [03:52] i'm going to poke cjwatson to help about the ubiquity problems and a few others, at least he can tell me who to poke in turn at least [03:52] but i really, really want to make progress again [03:52] i think i'm going to skip doing the RPM challenege to focus on ubuntu studio [03:52] but don't tell ricardus, holstein ;) [03:53] :/ [03:54] ScottL: just knock something live out like im going to do :) [04:46] ScottL: ping [04:46] Sorry prolly too late. [04:49] Anyway, should you read this when you get up.... looking at the differences from US to XU, I can see that XU seems to have pretty much left the /etc/xdg directory alone. they have put everything in a sub directory. We have tried to follow that style, but left lots in the xdg dir as well. [04:50] This means that we have to leave /etc/xdg in the path. I don't think XU has. [04:50] I would make one change in what you have there. [04:52] In the file xfwm4.xml, I would change [04:53] I would change greybird to default. [04:54] I would still use greybird in the xsettings.xml file though. [04:57] The backdrop is a hard pick between olis (what you have) and ayo (what I happen have here right now) [04:59] So I would leave it. [05:09] Hmm, in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25ubuntustudio-menu [05:10] you have included /etc/xdg but not /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio [05:19] I can't find where XU sets path. [05:47] ScottL: So I am about to go afk for a while, maybe the rest of the day. Now that the kernel is on revu, its time to get someone else to look at it. I may be able to poke people tomorrow, but if you could ask around as well, that would be much appreciated. [10:25] holstein, okay, thanks. i'll sort it out today [11:37] scott-work, ScottL ? [11:46] holstein too === ronoc is now known as ronoc|lunch === ronoc|lunch is now known as ronoc [14:51] knome: ping [15:19] knome: thanks! [15:19] im around later, so if i need to tweak something, let me know [15:37] scott-work: i think we should be ready for a media response if that kernel doesnt make it through [16:16] #ubuntu-motu [16:18] okay, poking people about the kernel now in #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-kernel [16:19] scott-work: :) [16:19] im still on a rather non-technical level with that im afraid, but if i can help with the poking, let me know [16:20] i'm going to hit cjwatson up later today i think to ask for help on the ubiquity crashes and a few other things because i bloody want this release to work! [16:20] scott-work: im still *so* excited about it [16:20] i'd like to start pokign some of the xubuntu/shimmer guys for help with the theme because it is still not fooking working at all! [16:20] that live CD loading up just got me going! [16:23] for me, the biggest deal breakers in look and feel are the wallpaper, and the login hot-pink screen... that little main menu XFCE icon would be nice to change to the old studio one too [16:31] holstein: yes, those are things i want to change [16:31] i dont mind the general theme at all [16:31] the icons or whatever [16:31] i mean, they "work" [16:32] i guess what im talking about is more branding and de-branding [16:33] it would be nice if, as an alternative, a xubuntu user could install ubuntustudio-desktop or whatever and just get our UI [16:35] holstein: i think the current theme is shit and it isn't what i want at all [16:35] holstein: if you are seeing what i'm seeing, that is [16:35] not sure [16:35] it looks like the default xfce stuff coming in and not the xubuntu theme [16:35] its just one of the default ones [16:36] but when i login as ubuntustudio session, its darker [16:36] what i want is xubuntu theme just like when you pop in the xubuntu live cd [16:36] scott-work: my install is kind of borked right now [16:36] i might need to reinstall [16:36] i haven't been able to get an install to work for a while either, that's why i want to poke cjwatson about this [16:37] how can i fix the theme if i can't get a working install? [16:37] i check in ubuntu+1, but i think we have special breakages :) [16:37] scott-work: i know right :/ [18:37] ScottL: question... can we get audactiy beck in the default install? [18:37] audacity* [18:38] i seem to remember there being a decent reason why it was pulled, i just cant remember it [18:39] cfhowlett: i found http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.ubuntu-studio/2733 [18:40] ScottL: I'm a user, not a dev. If my first exposure to audio editing had been ardour, I'd have run away in fear. Audacity is much easier for new users. Audio engineers can still add ardour in post-installation. Just my $0.02 that a Digital Media distro pretty much MUST include Audacity. [18:40] holstein: reading. tyvm [18:41] im going to post some lines here for scott-work [18:41] 13:37 < holstein> ScottL: question... can we get audactiy beck in the default install? [18:41] 13:37 < holstein> audacity* [18:41] 13:38 < holstein> i seem to remember there being a decent reason why it was pulled, i just cant remember it [18:41] 13:39 < holstein> cfhowlett: i found http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.ubuntu-studio/2733 [18:41] 13:40 < cfhowlett> ScottL: I'm a user, not a dev. If my first exposure to audio editing had been ardour, I'd have run away in fear. Audacity is much easier for new users. Audio engineers can still add ardour in post-installation. Just my $0.02 that a Digital Media distro pretty much MUST include Audacity. [18:41] sorry for the ugly non-pastbin pasting :/ [18:42] it's okay, we're going to add audacity back [18:42] scott-work: cool, i just couldnt remember where we had landed with it [18:42] scott-work: yay! Audacity and Gimp are my go to apps for demo'ing cool US stuff to new users. Happy it's back! [18:50] cfhowlett: feel free and hang over here too [18:50] you ave really helping out a lot in the main support channel, and we appreciate it ! [18:50] you are* [18:50] *blushes* [18:51] scott-work = ScottL = the ubuntustudio team lead [18:51] holstein: Kinda figured. :) [19:24] scott-work, greybird? we've made some changes to that to fix (mostly) gtk3, you should probably ask micahg to pull those for you as well [19:25] scott-work, you still online? holstein, or you? :) [19:25] whats up? [19:25] knome: im about to run [19:26] do you have more time later then? [19:26] knome: in like 8 hours [19:26] it's nothing critical [19:26] are you aroung then? [19:26] or tomorrow morning [19:26] im loose then for about 2 hours [19:26] probably not, it's 5:30am then ;) [19:26] hmmm [19:26] <- UTC+2 [19:26] but tomorrow morning might be okay, at what time? [19:27] my 10:30 am ish [19:27] EST [19:27] 20 hours from now? [19:27] ok, sounds like it could work :) [19:27] ping me then [19:27] knome: will do! [19:27] thanks [19:27] laters [19:27] see you [19:28] the theme changes shouldn't need "pulling in", otherwise, we as Xubuntu are doing something wrong with the packaging [19:28] ah, right, so studio is inheriting? [19:28] in that case some of it might just not be *pushed* yet :) [19:29] but ochosi and mr_pouit have been working a lot on greybird lately [19:42] knome: sorry, i'm here [19:42] the problem i believe we are having is that the theme is not being set [19:43] when you start the live -dvd you get asked about panel layout, i.e. "choose empy, default, or one panel" [19:44] i'm guessing i probably need to talk to ochosi or mrprout for these though [19:49] yeah [19:49] so [19:50] scott-work, bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/precise [19:50] scott-work, then run test-slideshow.sh and select ubuntu studio [19:52] knome: this is unreleated to theme, this is just to test the slide show, correct? [19:53] yeah, that's correct [19:53] * scott-work will have to wait until home and test it on his ubuntu machine [19:53] i'm not that aware about the theme issues [19:53] sure [19:53] when will you be home? [19:53] knome: less than four hours [19:54] okay, can you ping me then and we can go through a few things [19:57] knome: sure :) === jussio1 is now known as jussi [23:39] meh. i'm going to sleep. see you all tomorrow.