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cfhowlett | "New to Ubuntu (Studio) - Where Do I Start?" - my suggestion: find something that interests you. Read up on it, try it, learn from, have fun with it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/FullIssueIndex | 16:03 |
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holstein | yeah, get a small taks and take it on | 16:05 |
holstein | i felt so overwhelmed for months after i switched and realized what all supported JACK and worked together | 16:05 |
cfhowlett | holstein: I'm ashamed to admit that I STILL don't get jack, but then my podcast doesn't really require it... | 16:06 |
holstein | cfhowlett: if its not needed, it can be overkill, and an unecesarry overhead | 16:07 |
cfhowlett | fair enough... | 16:07 |
holstein | i love ardour, and just it often, but its not the right tool for every job | 16:09 |
holstein | and use it* | 16:10 |
cfhowlett | I tried to understand it, but honestly, audacity did and does everything that my modest little effort requires. Just for fun though, I crank up Ardour every so often and attempt to replicate the results...unsuccessfully thus far as I don't comprehend the work flow in Ardour. | 16:10 |
holstein | hey, if audactiy does the job, i say go for it | 16:11 |
holstein | i used to use it | 16:11 |
holstein | i need the ease of use ardour provides for busses, real-time non-destructive editing, and multi-tracking | 16:11 |
holstein | otherwise, if i had less tracks, id be happily using audacity | 16:12 |
holstein | i think the folks that complain about audacity and trying to use it for something it is not intended to be used for | 16:12 |
holstein | are trying* | 16:12 |
cfhowlett | holstein: exactomundo. The right tool for the job and all that... | 16:13 |
plusEV | problem | 16:44 |
cfhowlett | ? | 16:44 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: state it with details | 16:44 |
plusEV | just installed 10.04 and then i just get into a bloack screen after install | 16:45 |
ailo | Audacity is not a DAW | 16:45 |
ailo | It's an audio editor | 16:45 |
plusEV | it says- ---ubuntu 10.04 -lts administrator tty1 | 16:45 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: seen this?? http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ | 16:45 |
ailo | The most popular open source audio editor in the world | 16:45 |
ailo | The 2nd most popular open source media application in the world | 16:46 |
plusEV | it not blank tho | 16:46 |
ailo | Only VLC is more popular than Audacity | 16:46 |
cfhowlett | ailo: understood... | 16:46 |
plusEV | its just command prompt. no ui | 16:46 |
ailo | I think probably Audacity is not being as actively developed in the past, so it might be getting a little old. Also, the functions of an audio editor have become common in DAW's, but Audacity is still very actively used. | 16:48 |
ailo | >as< in the past.. | 16:49 |
ailo | plusEV: Try recovery mode, and do: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop | 16:50 |
ailo | Or just: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop (since you'll be logged in as root) | 16:50 |
plusEV | how do i enter that mode? | 16:50 |
plusEV | k | 16:51 |
ailo | plusEV: Reboot, press shift until you see the GRUB menu, and choose recovery mode | 16:51 |
plusEV | ¨one sec | 16:51 |
ailo | plusEV: You can do that from where you are though | 16:51 |
plusEV | y | 16:51 |
ailo | No need to do recovery mode | 16:51 |
ailo | plusEV: If it starts installing ubuntustudio-desktop and all it's dependencies, it means you somehow failed to install the desktop during your install procedure | 16:54 |
plusEV | failed to fetch files | 16:58 |
plusEV | over 9000 errors | 16:58 |
ailo | plusEV: Are you connected to the internet? | 16:59 |
plusEV | not on tghat comp | 16:59 |
ailo | Preferably using a chord. Don't think wifi will work | 16:59 |
plusEV | i can use coord yes | 17:00 |
plusEV | ok i got that set up in 1min.' | 17:00 |
ailo | And if you try: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop? | 17:01 |
plusEV | ok in normal mode after the boot now | 17:02 |
plusEV | and ethernet connected to the outlet atleast | 17:02 |
plusEV | asking me are you root | 17:03 |
plusEV | could not open lock file | 17:04 |
plusEV | ghey | 17:04 |
ailo | plusEV: Aren't you able to log in as a user? | 17:05 |
plusEV | im on recovery mode now. lets try work with this | 17:06 |
ailo | plusEV: If you weren't able to log in as a user, using your username and password, that would be a pretty major problem. | 17:06 |
ailo | plusEV: You can try installing in recovery mode, but if that doesn't help, reinstalling aught to | 17:07 |
plusEV | its the third time trying to reinstall it | 17:08 |
plusEV | im root now in safemode. can i do some online update recovery thing since im connected to net | 17:09 |
plusEV | ? | 17:09 |
ailo | plusEV: Try the command: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop | 17:09 |
plusEV | then i get a wall of text | 17:10 |
plusEV | and y n answer | 17:10 |
plusEV | i go y | 17:10 |
plusEV | the a new wall iof text telling me it fails to fetch files from cdroom | 17:11 |
plusEV | ask me to try update command or fix missing | 17:11 |
ailo | plusEV: try: apt-get update | 17:12 |
plusEV | reading package lists...--done | 17:12 |
ailo | And the fix missing is: apt-get install -f | 17:12 |
plusEV | 9 upgrades 0 installed 0 and 0 | 17:13 |
plusEV | 0 not 9 | 17:13 |
ailo | Now, try the install command again: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop | 17:14 |
plusEV | wall of text that tells me i fail | 17:15 |
plusEV | :) | 17:15 |
ailo | plusEV: Well, something is wrong | 17:15 |
ailo | plusEV: How did you install? | 17:15 |
ailo | Using a DVD, usb stick..? | 17:15 |
plusEV | booted from dvd | 17:15 |
ailo | plusEV: Could be the DVD is corrupted, but when you try to reinstall, make sure to keep yourself connected to the internet | 17:16 |
plusEV | ahhh | 17:16 |
cfhowlett | ailo: my guess as well | 17:16 |
plusEV | maybe thats the problem | 17:16 |
ailo | plusEV: You could also try installing regular Ubuntu and add audio packages to it | 17:16 |
plusEV | i try one more install connected with cable | 17:16 |
plusEV | no i want this | 17:17 |
plusEV | i like it :P | 17:17 |
plusEV | trying once more with cable | 17:17 |
plusEV | afk | 17:17 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: hard and frustrating experience has taught me to ALWAYS checksum .iso's as they can easily get corrupted | 17:18 |
plusEV | y I have heard that to but cba. :P | 17:20 |
plusEV | ¨no ffs it cant find the netwrok no either | 17:21 |
plusEV | how do you make bootable USB install from stick? | 17:23 |
plusEV | is it easy? | 17:23 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: quite easy. System>Administration>Startup Disk Creator | 17:25 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: what version of ubuntustudio are you installing? | 17:25 |
plusEV | 10.04 | 17:25 |
plusEV | but i decided to get win 7 in now first | 17:26 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: excellent. I was going to suggest you go with 10.04 until 12.04 releases. | 17:26 |
plusEV | its just a backup computer of mine. since my main comp is in to service | 17:26 |
plusEV | just want something running now | 17:26 |
cfhowlett | plusEV: install win7 first makes dual boot SO much easier... | 17:26 |
plusEV | y | 17:26 |
plusEV | thats what im doing | 17:26 |
plusEV | thx'ill be back | 17:26 |
cfhowlett | OK | 17:26 |
cfhowlett | *ahem* exCUSE me for asking - again - but WHY is Audacity NOT in the default UStudio installation? I would think that if anything, leave Ardour out of the default. Just my $0.02 distro managers... | 18:23 |
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holstein | cfhowlett: agreed.. though there was a good reason for that i think | 18:34 |
cfhowlett | holstein: assuming I meet the "target demographic", I'd be prepared to debate the wisdom... | 18:35 |
holstein | cfhowlett: ill bring it up again, and i *totally* agree with you | 18:36 |
holstein | cfhowlett: you want to /j #ubuntustudio-devel ? | 18:36 |
cfhowlett | holstein: done. Thanks for the suggestion. | 18:37 |
cfhowlett | holstein: thanks again. This kind of support/response makes contributing as a non-dev much more tangible. | 18:50 |
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