=== nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === ronoc is now known as ronoc|lunch === ronoc|lunch is now known as ronoc [16:03] "New to Ubuntu (Studio) - Where Do I Start?" - my suggestion: find something that interests you. Read up on it, try it, learn from, have fun with it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/FullIssueIndex [16:05] yeah, get a small taks and take it on [16:05] i felt so overwhelmed for months after i switched and realized what all supported JACK and worked together [16:06] holstein: I'm ashamed to admit that I STILL don't get jack, but then my podcast doesn't really require it... [16:07] cfhowlett: if its not needed, it can be overkill, and an unecesarry overhead [16:07] fair enough... [16:09] i love ardour, and just it often, but its not the right tool for every job [16:10] and use it* [16:10] I tried to understand it, but honestly, audacity did and does everything that my modest little effort requires. Just for fun though, I crank up Ardour every so often and attempt to replicate the results...unsuccessfully thus far as I don't comprehend the work flow in Ardour. [16:11] hey, if audactiy does the job, i say go for it [16:11] i used to use it [16:11] i need the ease of use ardour provides for busses, real-time non-destructive editing, and multi-tracking [16:12] otherwise, if i had less tracks, id be happily using audacity [16:12] i think the folks that complain about audacity and trying to use it for something it is not intended to be used for [16:12] are trying* [16:13] holstein: exactomundo. The right tool for the job and all that... [16:44] problem [16:44] ? [16:44] plusEV: state it with details [16:45] just installed 10.04 and then i just get into a bloack screen after install [16:45] Audacity is not a DAW [16:45] It's an audio editor [16:45] it says- ---ubuntu 10.04 -lts administrator tty1 [16:45] plusEV: seen this?? http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ [16:45] The most popular open source audio editor in the world [16:46] The 2nd most popular open source media application in the world [16:46] it not blank tho [16:46] Only VLC is more popular than Audacity [16:46] ailo: understood... [16:46] its just command prompt. no ui [16:48] I think probably Audacity is not being as actively developed in the past, so it might be getting a little old. Also, the functions of an audio editor have become common in DAW's, but Audacity is still very actively used. [16:49] >as< in the past.. [16:50] plusEV: Try recovery mode, and do: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop [16:50] Or just: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop (since you'll be logged in as root) [16:50] how do i enter that mode? [16:51] k [16:51] plusEV: Reboot, press shift until you see the GRUB menu, and choose recovery mode [16:51] ¨one sec [16:51] plusEV: You can do that from where you are though [16:51] y [16:51] No need to do recovery mode [16:54] plusEV: If it starts installing ubuntustudio-desktop and all it's dependencies, it means you somehow failed to install the desktop during your install procedure [16:58] failed to fetch files [16:58] over 9000 errors [16:59] plusEV: Are you connected to the internet? [16:59] not on tghat comp [16:59] Preferably using a chord. Don't think wifi will work [17:00] i can use coord yes [17:00] ok i got that set up in 1min.' [17:01] And if you try: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop? [17:02] ok in normal mode after the boot now [17:02] and ethernet connected to the outlet atleast [17:03] asking me are you root [17:04] could not open lock file [17:04] ghey [17:05] plusEV: Aren't you able to log in as a user? [17:06] im on recovery mode now. lets try work with this [17:06] plusEV: If you weren't able to log in as a user, using your username and password, that would be a pretty major problem. [17:07] plusEV: You can try installing in recovery mode, but if that doesn't help, reinstalling aught to [17:08] its the third time trying to reinstall it [17:09] im root now in safemode. can i do some online update recovery thing since im connected to net [17:09] ? [17:09] plusEV: Try the command: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop [17:10] then i get a wall of text [17:10] and y n answer [17:10] i go y [17:11] the a new wall iof text telling me it fails to fetch files from cdroom [17:11] ask me to try update command or fix missing [17:12] plusEV: try: apt-get update [17:12] reading package lists...--done [17:12] And the fix missing is: apt-get install -f [17:13] 9 upgrades 0 installed 0 and 0 [17:13] 0 not 9 [17:14] Now, try the install command again: apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop [17:15] wall of text that tells me i fail [17:15] :) [17:15] plusEV: Well, something is wrong [17:15] plusEV: How did you install? [17:15] Using a DVD, usb stick..? [17:15] booted from dvd [17:16] plusEV: Could be the DVD is corrupted, but when you try to reinstall, make sure to keep yourself connected to the internet [17:16] ahhh [17:16] ailo: my guess as well [17:16] maybe thats the problem [17:16] plusEV: You could also try installing regular Ubuntu and add audio packages to it [17:16] i try one more install connected with cable [17:17] no i want this [17:17] i like it :P [17:17] trying once more with cable [17:17] afk [17:18] plusEV: hard and frustrating experience has taught me to ALWAYS checksum .iso's as they can easily get corrupted [17:20] y I have heard that to but cba. :P [17:21] ¨no ffs it cant find the netwrok no either [17:23] how do you make bootable USB install from stick? [17:23] is it easy? [17:25] plusEV: quite easy. System>Administration>Startup Disk Creator [17:25] plusEV: what version of ubuntustudio are you installing? [17:25] 10.04 [17:26] but i decided to get win 7 in now first [17:26] plusEV: excellent. I was going to suggest you go with 10.04 until 12.04 releases. [17:26] its just a backup computer of mine. since my main comp is in to service [17:26] just want something running now [17:26] plusEV: install win7 first makes dual boot SO much easier... [17:26] y [17:26] thats what im doing [17:26] thx'ill be back [17:26] OK [18:23] *ahem* exCUSE me for asking - again - but WHY is Audacity NOT in the default UStudio installation? I would think that if anything, leave Ardour out of the default. Just my $0.02 distro managers... === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [18:34] cfhowlett: agreed.. though there was a good reason for that i think [18:35] holstein: assuming I meet the "target demographic", I'd be prepared to debate the wisdom... [18:36] cfhowlett: ill bring it up again, and i *totally* agree with you [18:36] cfhowlett: you want to /j #ubuntustudio-devel ? [18:37] holstein: done. Thanks for the suggestion. [18:50] holstein: thanks again. This kind of support/response makes contributing as a non-dev much more tangible. === pdimitrov is now known as pr0ggie === XartaoX is now known as artao