[00:49] <kanliot> where would i file a bug with xdg-open?
[00:59] <kklimonda> kanliot: ubuntu-bug xdg-utils
[01:00] <kanliot> ty
[01:16] <ubuntos> is i915.i915_enable_rc6 still disabled on 12.04 ?
[01:17] <ubuntos> any i915 rc6 on 12.04 ?
[01:23] <ubuntos> hi
[01:25] <ubuntos> so any idea about i915 in 12.04 ?
[01:33] <ubuntos> is i915 rc6 enabled on 12.04 ?
[01:40] <ubuntos> what about pcie_aspm ?
[01:43] <ubuntos> no news
[05:07] <NeonLightning> i can't seem to figure out how to get 12.04 to use xfce by default. i've tried changing everything in update-alternatives to use it
[05:08] <NeonLightning> first i tried logging out and signing in on xfce but it still booted to the default
[05:11] <urfr332g0> NeonLightning, how did you install xfse?
[05:11] <urfr332g0> vfce
[05:11] <urfr332g0> xfce doh
[07:43] <Guest97996> wonder if nvidia drivers work ok ..
[08:49] <repete> Is it me or is the package index screwed?
[08:50] <repete> can't refresh my sources because it says it can't open the merge list.  Keep getting "not a valid bzip archive" when trying to refresh the sources.
[08:57] <repete> maybe it is just the gb archive
[08:57] <repete> changed to fr and it seems to work
[11:03] <g0twig> help
[11:03] <g0twig> update-manager wants to remove 200 packages
[11:03] <g0twig> is that normal ???
[11:04] <g0twig> (mostly i386 one's . I'm on 64 bit)
[11:05] <crizzy_> on dist-upgrade?
[11:05] <crizzy_> distro upgrade, that is
[11:05] <crizzy_> think it did the same for me.. so.. yes..
[11:06] <g0twig> crizzy_: realy yes? I dont want a broken system
[11:06] <g0twig> not on dist-upgrade...
[11:06] <g0twig> just normal upgrade
[11:06] <g0twig> in 12.04
[11:06] <crizzy_> i386 packages can't really break your 64bit installation..
[11:06] <g0twig> wait
[11:06] <crizzy_> so.. i wouldn't worry too much
[11:06] <g0twig> but there is also
[11:06] <g0twig> the package lsb-base
[11:06] <g0twig> p7zip and others
[11:07] <crizzy_> if unsure wait for couple days
[11:07] <crizzy_> :P
[11:07] <crizzy_> if it still wants to remove them in couple days, then it's authentic :PP
[11:07] <g0twig> thanks
[11:13] <huayra> LibreOffice is failing
[11:13] <huayra> any work around? I so need it right now!! :D
[11:17] <g0twig> why is ia 32 libs not available
[11:17] <g0twig> anymore?
[11:19] <crizzy_> multiarch
[11:19] <crizzy_> you can install either verison of package by simple: apt-get install package:i386
[11:20] <g0twig> crizzy_: I cant install skype
[11:20] <g0twig> becouse of that
[11:21] <g0twig> there isnt a skype 64 bit edition out
[11:21] <g0twig> right.....?
[11:24] <crizzy_> no idae
[11:24] <crizzy_> *idea
[11:24] <crizzy_> but you should wait for final release for real usage
[11:24] <crizzy_> i bet you can manually guess packages that skype needs
[11:25] <crizzy_> just try to launch and check what .so file it complains about.. apt-get install libsomething:i386
[11:27] <g0twig> crizzy_: yo I know
[11:27] <g0twig> but than I have all this shit 32 libs...
[11:30] <g0twig> I hate skype
[11:31] <crizzy_> :-)
[12:23] <glosoli> Seems like I can't install any program that depeneds on i386 libs or anything
[12:23] <glosoli> After upgrade
[12:24] <Z_God> glosoli: correct
[12:24] <Z_God> it's still broken
[12:24] <glosoli> But this is definitely being fixed  ?
[12:24] <Z_God> I suppose so
[12:24] <Z_God> but it's been broken for a week already at least
[12:24] <glosoli> Will have a brake from stupid skype :D
[12:38] <vega-> glosoli: that is mentioned in the release notes as known issue..
[12:41] <glosoli> vega-: Pardon me, I am quite new to using developement versions, where can I see release notes ?
[13:03] <yourfrinedisaac> Having pae error on test drive of 12.04. cpu not that old any suggestions?
[13:05] <vega-> glosoli: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[13:10] <glosoli> vega: The ia32-libs package that used to provide 32-bit libraries on 64-bit (amd64) installations has been removed in favour of multiarch.  << so there won't be ia32-libs anymore, how  I can install thoose multiarch ?
[13:11] <vega-> glosoli: not sure, but there seems to be a package named ia32-libs-multiarch
[13:11] <vega-> and one named multiarch-support
[13:12] <vega-> one would think that those two would be automatically installed on systems that had ia32-libs ..
[13:14] <vega-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880965&page=2 and so on..
[13:16] <yourfrinedisaac> Having pae error on test drive of 12.04. cpu not that old just updated kernel as per wiki suggestions. Is this a problem with 12.04 or my system?any suggestions?
[13:38] <MrChrisDruif> I hope someone is around who knows what sets lightdm's background to the one the user is using?
[13:42] <yourfrinedisaac> pae error in desktop release. installed pae to kernel just to be sure -- no change.  trying dvd as stated in wiki.
[13:43] <yourfrinedisaac> anyone else having trouble with testdrive system?
[13:47] <MrChrisDruif> yourfrinedisaac; I'm running 64bit so no problems for me
[13:48] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, are you using the desktop release of the dvd?
[13:48] <yourfrinedisaac> or the dvd*
[13:49] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, by the way i'm using the i386
[13:50] <MrChrisDruif> yourfrinedisaac; with pae I'm not surprised you're using i386
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> And what is the difference between the desktop release and the dvd yourfrinedisaac ?
[13:51] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, according to the wiki there is a defference in the readiness. also what do you mean you're not surprised?
[13:52] <MrChrisDruif> !PAE
[13:52] <MrChrisDruif> That's why ^_^
[13:53] <yourfrinedisaac> ubotto, I did that still having same error on desktop release. syncing dvd release.
[13:54] <MrChrisDruif> yourfrinedisaac; ubottu only responded to my !PAE ( ubottu is a bot)
[13:54] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, lol okay
[13:55] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe ^_^
[13:55] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, I saw the enabling pae info and followed instructions and rebooted. Still same error
[13:56]  * MrChrisDruif has no experience with PAE
[13:56] <MrChrisDruif> Why mess with PAE if you can run x86_64 ^_^
[13:57] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, my cpu says its 64bit but eont run 64 bit ubuntu
[13:58] <yourfrinedisaac> wont*
[13:58] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, go figure. right
[13:58] <MrChrisDruif> Awkward
[14:02] <MrChrisDruif> yourfrinedisaac; what does cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep cache_alignment give you? (or just cat /proc/cpuinfo )
[14:04] <yourfrinedisaac> 64
[14:04] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,64
[14:04] <MrChrisDruif> Awkward, what does it tell you when you try to install 64bit?
[14:05] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif, use an appropriate kernel for your cpu
[14:05] <MrChrisDruif> O_O
[14:06] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,  I'm downloading the 64bit alpha top see what happens
[14:08] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,  when it's finished i'll try it in virtualbox
[14:10] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,  I'm wondering if since my 11.10 release is 32 bit if it is causing a confusion in virtualbox
[14:10] <MrChrisDruif> Did you tell virtualbox that you wanted to install a 64 bit system?
[14:11] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,  what do you mean it just asks for the iso location
[14:11] <MrChrisDruif> From what I remember you can select what kind of system you want to install
[14:12] <MrChrisDruif> E.g. Ubuntu 64 bit
[14:12] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif,  hmmm never saw that setting let me check
[14:12] <MrChrisDruif> When you create the virtual drive
[14:13] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif; ahhhh I see it. Nope never did that
[14:13] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^
[14:13] <MrChrisDruif> Then it'll think you created a 32 bit machine ^_^
[14:14] <yourfrinedisaac> MrChrisDruif; will this time lol
[14:15] <Trewas> the processor needs hadrware support for virtualization to run 64bit guest, which is more than is needed to run 64bit os on the real hardware
[14:43] <aQute> how to install skype on 12.04 its not there in software center
[14:44] <bazhang> !find skype partner
[14:44] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[14:44] <bazhang> aQute, in the partner repository
[14:45] <aQute> how to add that repo
[14:45] <bazhang> !partner
[14:50] <glosoli> Is anyone other unable to install ia32-libs-multiarch because of dependencies problem ?
[14:50] <orated> Hello! Will Ubuntu Precise release be able to disable Nvidia Optimus?
[14:51] <glosoli> orated: Try searching in internet for some tool called Bumblebee
[14:51] <orated> I did glosoli. Bumblebee is not working for me
[14:52] <glosoli> orated: In btw i dont think it depends on ubuntu version, I think it depends if Nvidia will release driver with support
[14:53] <orated> I meant to ask with reference to kernel used in precise. I read that 3.2 can fix optimus issues, hence asked
[15:00] <glosoli> orated: hmm, worth trying then
[15:42] <qw-Russian> hello
[15:43] <qw-Russian> help me i would like install MS Access from Linux but I do not know as it to do
[15:45] <bazhang> qw-Russian, please dont crosspost, you got an answer in #ubuntu
[18:17] <Almindor> hey, I have ubuntu 10.04 and when I do update-manager -d it wants to go all the way to 12.04 alpha, how do I go to 11.10?
[18:18] <bazhang> Almindor, you would need to do every step in between
[18:18] <Almindor> bazhang: ok.. how?
[18:18] <Almindor> bazhang: all the 10.04 -> x.x guides simply talk about update-manager -d doing the job
[18:18] <bazhang> 10.04-10.10-11.04-11.10
[18:19] <Almindor> bazhang: yes... but how? or is the info about alpha only info and it will update one at a time?
[18:19] <bazhang> Almindor, once it is released its a one step upgrade path between lts
[18:19] <bazhang> Almindor, how much of a hurry are you in
[18:19] <Almindor> bazhang: well.. I have max 2h
[18:20] <bazhang> so today
[18:20] <bazhang> well do you have a separate home partition?
[18:20] <Almindor> so it's not possible to tell update-manager to update just one non-lts release?
[18:20] <Almindor> no, default layout
[18:21] <bazhang> well yes, but not with the -d command
[18:21] <bazhang> thats development release
[18:21] <Almindor> ok.. I don't really mind updaging one by one
[18:21] <bazhang> as in alpha2 not released
[18:21] <Almindor> yes
[18:21] <Almindor> updating9
[18:21] <bazhang> more than 2 hours I'd say
[18:21] <Almindor> damnit :) not my type of keyboard heh
[18:22] <Almindor> I can do one update now, the second one later
[18:22] <Almindor> but I need the machine workable
[18:22] <bazhang> sure
[18:22] <bazhang> make sure to check in the package manager that it looks for non-lts releases then
[18:23] <Almindor> ok
[18:23] <bazhang> and get it started, first to 10.10
[18:25] <Almindor> thanks, updating to 10.10 now
[18:25] <bazhang> if there are any issues/questions in the meantime, be sure to ask.
[18:26] <bazhang> in #ubuntu , of course
[18:26] <Almindor> sure, thanks
[19:44] <MrChrisDruif> Anyone around with LightDM knowledge?
[20:52] <bik-family> hi there
[20:57] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha bik-family
[20:58] <vaioman> hello there, i'm running ubuntu natty 11.04 i want to upgrade to precise alpha but update-manager -d offers me oneiric. can i force it to choose precise?
[20:58] <crizzy_> vaioman: you can't skip releases when upgrading
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> vaioman; nope, you have to go through all of them
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe
[20:58] <vaioman> ah. too bad, thanks anyway
[20:59] <crizzy_> except LTS to LTS is possible
[20:59] <vaioman> i'll start the oneiric upgrade then eww :)
[21:01] <MrChrisDruif> That's true, but that is actually the same as normal release to normal release
[21:01] <MrChrisDruif> vaioman; or fresh install. But that's up to you.
[21:02] <vaioman> unfortunately i don't have any media avail here, i'll go with the big multiupgrade
[21:02] <bik-family> Hi, can i ask something abbout Thunderbird in Precise P?
[21:04] <MrChrisDruif> !ask | bik-family
[21:05] <bik-family> OK, I installed Ubuntu Precise P, all works perfect accept Thunderbird. I cant create accounts in it
[21:06] <MrChrisDruif> Why not? What kind of errors did you get?
[21:06] <bik-family> the first welcome screen offers to create an account thru TB, or make your own or skip and create later
[21:07] <bik-family> None of the three things work, no errors
[21:19] <cemc> can I disable that email/IM indicator?
[21:55] <ralph> HI ALL A smal question, after updating 12.04, dragging the window border behaviour is changed. now double click and dan klik to release. bug or change. (bad one it it is)
[22:09] <Daekdroom> ralph, could you rephrase that?
[22:10] <ralph> normally if you drag a window you double click and drag and release the mouse... now it stick... you have to click again to release the window from the mouse.
[22:11] <ralph> this happens after installing the latest updates today for 12.04
[22:11] <ralph> before it was fine
[22:12] <Daekdroom> I never double clicked to drag a window.
[22:13] <ralph> i mean double tab on mousepad
[22:13] <Daekdroom> Ah.
[22:13] <ralph> sorry
[22:13] <Daekdroom> I never used Unity on a notebook. No wonder why I'm so confused.
[22:13] <ralph> O-o
[22:14] <Daekdroom> I mean laptop.
[22:14] <ralph> yes with a mouse is't just one click and release
[22:15] <ralph> i was wondering if this change is planned or just me, can't find anything on it on internet
[22:21] <eitch> hi guys, does anyone know if there is a reason why evince core dumps on me when in daily?
[22:24] <Daekdroom> Bad build?
[22:25] <eitch> Daekdroom, what do you mean? i have all upgrades applied and evince just crashes with the message (core dumped)
[22:25] <Daekdroom> eitch, and you're using an Alpha version of Ubuntu. Segmentation faults happen sometimes.
[22:25] <Daekdroom> It should be fixed in the next evince update.
[22:25] <eitch> Daekdroom, sure, i know it can happen, was just wondering what i can do =)
[22:26] <Daekdroom> First I'd try to check if there's a bug report filed in Launchpad.
[22:31] <Daekdroom> Aww. He left. I suspect it was bug 932642
[22:41] <huayra> is there any reason why the software center is gone (and has been for the last week)?
[22:42] <trism> huayra: not being careful with dist-upgrade? (it is still installed here, others were complaining about losing it earlier)
[22:47] <ralph> problem solved... now it is working again (i did nothing)
[22:48] <ralph> yes last week if you did a update in uninstalled the software center
[22:49] <ralph> you can instal it again if you have synaptic or sudo apt-get instal software-center
[22:50] <ralph>  sudo apt-get install software-center
[22:51] <huayra> trism & ralph: thank you
[22:51] <ralph> no problem ;-)
[22:51] <huayra> I come from the dpkg and dselect days, but have started to like to s-c and kind of missed it the last week :)
[22:51] <ralph> ( yamaica yah....)
[23:20] <glosoli> Where Can I check what version of drivers Pangolin Precise has in it's repo ?
[23:20] <glosoli> I mean ATI Catalyst version