[12:03] <ogra_> janimo`, what about the ac100 kernel ? (FF is tomorrow, would be good to have the new version by then i think)
[12:04] <janimo`> ogra_, I heard no other developments upstream - and di not check either
[12:04] <ogra_> right, but the archive kernel is still at .8
[12:04] <janimo`> we will have anew version anyway by release, it is not a feature, but incremental fixes
[12:05] <guiltyCrow> sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[12:05] <guiltyCrow> sorry wrong console
[12:05] <guiltyCrow> :P
[12:05] <janimo`> right, I'll update when marvin24 has it in the stable branch, last I checked (last week) it was on -exp
[12:05]  * ogra_ is just seeing many people dpkg -i'ing your kernel from startx.ro
[12:05] <janimo`> so we have to have the .deb in sync with upstream's stable branch
[12:05] <ogra_> ok
[12:05] <janimo`> and we had more suspend issues from what I saw on the list
[12:06]  * ogra_ didnt bother to try suspend here, beyond that sound works so much better with the new one
[12:06] <janimo`> ogra_, well they should, so they test it, too bad they do not report back to the mailing list
[12:06] <janimo`> but if they report on #ac100 to marvin that is fine too
[12:06] <ogra_> and the touchpad is supposed to be multitouch (not that i knew how to test that)
[12:06] <janimo`> suspend does not work for me at all now
[12:06] <janimo`> although it may be the nvidia thing again
[12:07] <ogra_> well, i'm using the binary driver, so i dont even hesitate to test
[12:07] <ogra_> i wouldnt expect it to work in this setup anyway
[12:07]  * ogra_ blames nvidia here 
[12:08] <janimo`> once marvin24 is happy with the stabel tree I'll make a new release
[12:09] <ogra_> ok
[12:23] <marvin24> janimo`: I merged -exp to stable some days ago
[12:23] <janimo`> marvin24, ah great, I'll roll a package then these days :
[12:23] <janimo`> :)
[12:24] <marvin24> great - thanks!
[12:31] <janimo`> marvin24, oh I see you have a 3.2 branch, sweet
[12:31] <janimo`> I wish it were ready in a few months for the release
[12:42] <marvin24> janimo`: yes, I'll think we have to wait for the 12.10 at least
[12:42] <janimo`> marvin24, is it not building/booting :)
[12:42] <marvin24> btw, is it possible to package experimental kernels?
[12:42] <marvin24> janimo`: oh, what, which one?
[12:42] <janimo`> marvin24, well we can have debs packaged
[12:42] <janimo`> I would not put htem in the archives though
[12:43] <janimo`> marvin24, 3.2, is that not even close to being ready?
[12:43] <marvin24> that's no problem, people just need an url with the package
[12:43] <janimo`> marvin24, well as I did with test kernels on startx.ro
[12:43] <marvin24> janimo`: I can make it ready, but there is not much support from upstream
[12:43] <marvin24> it is more like a quick and dirrty port
[12:43] <janimo`> marvin24, if you have a concrete plan writing to the ml for help would be ok
[12:44] <janimo`> indeed, since you have done this before
[12:44] <marvin24> and I cannot maintain tegra specific stuff
[12:44] <marvin24> I only added ac100 support
[12:44] <marvin24> but 3.2 misses some tegra parts which I cannot include myself
[12:44] <marvin24> on the other hand, 3.2 is booting and working so far
[12:44] <janimo`> I know. But if you have an idea of what is exaclty missing and what kind of work is needed, putting it in a mail may get more poeple involved
[12:45] <janimo`> I am interested in helpgin as well
[12:45] <marvin24> mmh, I guess mostly better powermanagement support
[12:45] <janimo`> in Ubuntu we'd all prefer a 3.2 to be in line with the rest of the kernels, for less post release pain
[12:46] <janimo`> so we may put some effort in now if it helps in the long run and out free time permitting :)
[12:46] <marvin24> yeah, but real life isn't perfect :-)
[12:46] <janimo`> so if it boots/works without lockups and has no regressions in sound/video/wlan/pm etc, why not make a shot?
[12:46] <marvin24> I prefer to keep 3.2 as it is
[12:47] <janimo`> marvin24, ah and upstream only works on 3.3+ ?
[12:47] <marvin24> I (and maybe others too) don't have enough info to get it working in a sane way
[12:47] <marvin24> janimo`: upstream still misses usb device tree support (and video of course)
[12:48] <marvin24> we have to wait until nv releases a kms kernel driver
[12:48] <janimo`> 'of course' : I have no idea, I am not familiar with the upstream kernel status :)
[12:48] <marvin24> I heard someone is working on it
[12:48] <janimo`> ah so it does not work at all? Why is kms needed for the gfx accelerated proprietary bits?
[12:49] <marvin24> no, the current implementation is so ugly, it cannot be upstreamed
[12:49] <marvin24> and a kms driver would propably require new userspace binaries
[12:49] <marvin24> so don't expect it to land soon
[12:50] <marvin24> on the other hand, nv already began to upstream some gound working (gart, iommu)
[12:51] <marvin24> if people like to work on tegra 3.2, feel free to send patches ;-)
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[12:54] <Guest89622> excuse me
[12:54] <Guest89622> i need the ubuntu arm on qemu which have GUI....how i do ?
[12:55] <Guest89622> i can install X-server ?
[12:59] <Guest89622> excuse me...help me
[13:02] <erbo> Guest89622: Have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM ?
[13:02] <Guest89622> it don't have what i want
[13:02] <Guest89622> thanks
[13:53] <infinity> jcrigby: Have you played with u-boot and gcc-4.6 at all?  It's now one of the only two packages keeping gcc-4.5 in main.
[15:42] <ppisati> GrueMaster: so you basically added `smsc95xx.macaddr=$foobar` to your bootargs, right?
[15:50] <GrueMaster> ppisati: That was how it used to work, yes.  I still want to keep the die id code, but IS needs this as they have some pandas with duplicate die id's.
[15:51] <ppisati> GrueMaster: it seems this feature was borked since Natty onward
[15:52] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  I haven't tested it since Maverick (die id code went in in natty).
[15:53] <GrueMaster> How hard will it be to fix and SRU?  I'm sure IS will need it for the buildd pool, and I don't know what kernels they use.
[15:53] <ppisati> GrueMaster: don't know, i'm investigating
[15:53] <GrueMaster> Ok, thanks.
[15:58] <GrueMaster> ppisati: I have been having an issue lately with the Dove SRU kernels.  The linux-headers-2.6.32-422 package is empty for some reason, and without it, I can't build kernel modules for security testing.  But I'm not sure how much I care either, as no one seems to be using it (except me for SRU testing).
[15:58] <GrueMaster> Who on the kernel team should I ping about this?
[15:58] <ppisati> empty???
[15:58] <ppisati> anyway, i guess that's m
[15:58] <ppisati> e
[15:59] <GrueMaster> Well, copyright & changelog is there, but no headers.
[16:00] <ppisati> doh!
[16:01] <GrueMaster> Like I said, I'm torn between wanting completeness, and not caring about a system no one uses and will vanish in a couple of months.
[16:12] <infinity> GrueMaster: I'm tempted to just not care about dove kernels.
[16:12] <ppisati> perhaps ot's just a variable, i'll fix in the next SRU
[16:13] <GrueMaster> Same here (especially if I don't have to do SRU testing anymore).  :P
[16:14] <GrueMaster> ppisati: Don't go to too much trouble.  I've run all the other SRU tests.  No new holes.  I'll go ahead and pass this with a note.
[21:16] <janimo`> infinity, which is the other package keeping gcc 4.5 in main?
[21:18] <infinity> janimo`: grub2, u-boot-linaro, and now mysql again. :/
[21:18] <janimo`> infinity, ah so not arm-only stuff
[21:18] <janimo`> or is it grub2 on arm?
[21:18] <infinity> janimo`: No, no.  grub2 and mysql everywhere, not just arm.
[22:26] <AfouToPatisa> hello everyone, I would require some help with my preinstalled image for beagleboard please, who should I ask?
[22:27] <pbuckley> just ask
[22:27] <pbuckley> and someone will get to helping you
[22:27] <pbuckley> its very async here
[22:27] <AfouToPatisa> ah cheers
[22:28] <AfouToPatisa> well I just installed ubuntu arm OMAP and my screen is flickering up and down
[22:28] <AfouToPatisa> I cannot even read anything its running all the time
[22:30] <AfouToPatisa> I installed it by SD card normally it should be fine...
[22:32] <AfouToPatisa> oh I forgot to say the only error I got was this: 2190475264 bytes (2.2 GB) copied, 536.94 s, 4.1 MB/s dd: closing input file `standard input': Bad file descriptor
[22:33] <infinity> So your image didn't write correctly to the SD card, for one.
[22:33] <infinity> Though I can't see how that would cause screen flicker. :P
[22:33] <AfouToPatisa> haha true :P
[22:33] <infinity> I don't have a beagle, though, so I'm not entirely sure on the flicker front.
[22:33] <AfouToPatisa> i guess i will rewrite it then...
[22:33] <infinity> Which Ubuntu version are you using?
[22:33] <AfouToPatisa> 11.10
[22:34] <AfouToPatisa> btw , does the sync thing go alone?
[22:34] <infinity> Kay.  You could try a 12.04 daily for giggles, but 11.10 should work.
[22:34] <AfouToPatisa> thanks man, gonna give 12.04 a spin as well
[22:34] <AfouToPatisa> see what comes out
[22:35] <AfouToPatisa> im just installing because 10.04 was probably too old to support my touchscreen I guess :/
[22:36] <AfouToPatisa> thanks brb