[02:53] jcastro++ [02:53] Nice blog post! [02:54] *upvotes on reddit* === koolhead17|zzZZ is now known as koolhead17 [03:12] * koolhead17 wonders which post of jcastro, nigelb is talking about. [05:00] *yawns* [05:00] so early === benonsoftware is now known as Guest20752 [07:37] Hello All [07:39] nigelb: Do u have a link to the reddit submit ^ === Guest20752 is now known as benonsoftware [08:34] http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/powe8/no_i_didnt_search_before_i_posted_because_your/ [08:35] bkerensa: I think that is what you are looking for? [08:40] jokerdino: Yeah thanks :D === fenris is now known as Guest77257 === Guest77257 is now known as ejat [10:02] head_victim: can you pm me the Ubuntu membership channel please [11:05] bkerensa: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/powe8/no_i_didnt_search_before_i_posted_because_your/ [11:06] nigelb: I got it finally :) [11:06] bkerensa: sorry about that, was out on meetings :) [13:22] jcastro: congratulations! [14:23] duanedesign: hm? [14:24] jcastro: how well is octopress holding up under reddit traffic? [14:24] it didn't even break a sweat [14:24] I wonder how much it'll cost in S3 transactions [14:25] 10000 visitors [14:25] it cost me 6 cents so far. [14:25] wow [14:25] jcastro: was just reading my email this morning and saw you were mentioned for the great work you do [14:25] duanedesign: oh let me read my email lol [14:26] mhall119: I want to move the ubuntu server blog to it, but it's a totally uninteresting juju usecase [14:26] so we'll be using wordpress instead [14:26] duanedesign: oh wow! [14:26] jcastro: :) [14:26] you should read your email ;) [14:27] I just started work! [14:27] you guys have been up already [14:28] mhall119: I found few similar python ones, but they don't get the street cred of octo for some reason [14:28] I am brainstorming with some guys on how to make octo more team based [14:28] the way people do it right now is just do that in github, debating wether people will want to do that in launchpad [14:29] or if we should just bolt on a markdown editor to it so people can write the markdown right on the web [14:29] and then it basically is wordpress, hah [14:34] mhall119: this might sound so vain [14:34] but my favorite unity feature this cycle [14:34] are the new tooltips on the launcher [15:13] mornin [15:30] morning cjohnston [15:30] :-) [15:31] hey balloons [15:31] is there an ubuntu QA team blog? [15:31] there is [15:32] I was just thinking outloud [15:32] but why not put the calls for testing there? [15:32] then they would be on planet? [15:33] Daviey: when can I hang out with you? [15:35] jcastro: give me 25 mins? [15:35] \o/ [15:35] jcastro: or next Wednesday, same time? [15:35] Finally, some more Daviey in my life. [15:35] WHAT. No. [15:35] balloons: why do your blog posts hit voices 2 times? [15:36] jcastro: okay, you can have 2 doses. [15:37] cjohnston, for some reason my blog is indexed twice.. not sure how to fix it [15:37] twice the adsense! [15:38] jcastro, hmm.. the qa team blog.. not sure if it hits planet or not [15:38] it's not really used atm [15:38] i can't remember why i decided for or against using it [15:38] balloons: it's listed on there on the side [15:38] balloons: I just didn't know if we had thought of that and thought I should point it out [15:38] also [15:39] the hud in the staging ppa is awesome [15:39] balloons: i assume you have checked to see if its in the config twice? maybe an rt to check it out [15:40] jcastro: I still havent decided if I am ready to upgrade my laptop to +1.. :-/ I'm on it on both desktops. [15:41] cjohnston, yes I see it listed twice [15:41] it's tempting [15:43] I try to make rules for myself like "Beta 1 is when I do it." [15:45] jcastro: i do it different each time.. the reason I hadn't on the laptop was because I was going to Connect last week [15:45] jcastro: dude! [15:46] ssd in x220 [15:46] I am going to explode with performance [15:47] popey: finally! [15:48] I have the intel 6gb sata one in mine [15:49] I went a bit nuts [15:49] http://www.ebuyer.com/260707-ocz-240gb-vertex-3-ssd-2-5-sata-iii-6gb-s-read-550mb-s-write-520mb-s-vtx3-25sat3-240g [15:50] It only fits if you shove it really hard into the drive bay! :D [15:53] I had to remove mine from the case because I didn't know the 220 got all slim [15:54] yeah, i didnt use the caddy at all [15:58] morning all! [15:58] hey jono [15:58] hey dholbach [15:59] dholbach, dpm, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 all ready to hang? [15:59] yep [15:59] jono, yes [16:00] getting there [16:00] jono, just a sec, having some webcam issues [16:02] dpm, np [16:02] (nice excuse) [16:02] lol [16:07] jono, I didn't shave, so I was just not sure if you guys would like to see me today :) [16:07] ok, trying usb webcam... [16:07] dpm, NO SHAVING?! UNACCEPTABLE! [16:07] :-) [16:08] fire him! :P [16:08] yeah, forgot about the suit and tie too... [16:10] jussi, good idea [16:10] he brings zero value to the team [16:10] haha [16:38] balloons, my test machine is still screwed up...I can't even install anything on it right now with the errors I'm getting. I'm just trying get it to a state where cjwatson can ssh in. I don't know what happened yesterday but something is really borked [16:39] akgraner, got a backup or need a backup? might be time to wipe and install again [16:39] balloons, yep that probably what I will do but we need to find why I'm getting libc errors [16:40] ahh.. attempting to get to the root of the issue.. yes makes sense [16:41] balloons, hehe you said root :-P [16:42] (I image that would be what beavis or butthead would say if they were the slightest bit technical) [16:42] hehe! [17:01] mhall119: hey [17:01] http://bootswatch.com/ [17:01] click on United's preview button [17:01] that looks quite handy! [17:04] Daviey: yo yo [17:10] jcastro: hola [17:12] jcastro: nice, almost meets the Ubuntu brannd guidelines [17:13] yeah [17:13] Daviey: can we hang out? [17:16] jcastro: we can! [17:19] invite sent! [17:22] jcastro: i got tired of waiitng :) [17:22] what. [17:22] come on, I've had the thing open for a full 5 minutes now waiting for you [17:23] did I invite the wrong daviey? [17:31] that looks nice. [17:32] I haven't done any browser-app programming for ages, but it seems to be coming along. [18:04] mhall119, any idea why my CanoniStack server is not responding [18:04] they are upgrading today to 12.04 and new openstack [18:05] there was an announcement somewhere [18:05] basically expect the whole thing to be down today [18:05] ahh np [18:05] jcastro: are we going to lose our instances? [18:06] yep [18:06] they all go away [18:06] so I'll have to re-create them all? [18:06] :( [18:06] yeah [18:06] oh how I wish we had EBS [18:06] mhall119, oh you are kidding me [18:07] so I need to reinstall my stuff on there [18:07] no worries [18:07] jono: maybe? I'm not sure [18:07] yeah, this is why we want charms of everything [18:07] lol [18:07] lolololol [18:07] this is too funny [18:07] also, as a general rule, you should be backing up stuff there all the time [18:07] no it's not [18:07] i think i'll grab some popcorn for this show [18:07] so make like an hourly cron sync or something [18:07] * mhall119 isn't laughing [18:07] oh well, I have all my stuff in bzr anyway [18:08] did you guys not see the mail from IS? [18:08] they put this out like last week [18:08] yeah, but SUMO install is such a long process, now I have to do it all again [18:08] * balloons is very sorry for mhall119 and agrees.. they should never delete people's data [18:08] jcastro: I saw it, didn't know it was going to kill the instances though [18:08] #1 rule of providing a service [18:08] "saw"!="read" [18:08] yeah, they even say on the canonistack pages, always assume your data might just go away [18:09] balloons: yeah, rule #1, canonistack is a DMZ play zone. [18:09] jcastro: yeah, I knew it wasn't for production needs [18:09] I just don't like the idea of having to re-create my 3 instances [18:09] hehe.. sometimes the big red warning banner isn't enough [18:09] jcastro, yeah I saw it [18:09] jcastro: especially without juju charms [18:09] didnt realize it was today [18:09] no worries [18:10] mhall119: this is why having it so valueable to an organization, you start to realize that being on the cloud means "things can go away at any time" [18:10] sucks to be mhall119 [18:10] and then you institutionally get better at doing it more robustly [18:10] :( [18:10] it does suck though. :( [18:11] if we had EBS, then we would have been alright I think === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|afk [18:11] since the data can persist outside of the instance [18:11] mhall119: at netflix they have an entire team of people who go around internally randomly removing services from other internal teams; that's why they're so robust, when s3 goes down they don't miss a beat. [18:11] but with only instance-storage, kill the instance and you kill the data [18:11] yeah, our storage story right now isnt't very good, [18:13] time for dinner [18:13] see you guys around [18:13] HUGS [18:41] planet ubuntu, where images RUN AMOK. [18:48] someone complained about it a couple days ago, they got a "patches welcome" [18:49] there's also at least one bug open about it [18:52] I wonder if feedjack might be a better option.. it could possibly remove the need to check out a branch to add/remove feeds.. plus its django [18:53] although i dont know how much development is being done on it [18:54] ya.. i guess last release was ~2008 [18:59] Daviey started writing a replacement planet engine based on django [18:59] worked pretty well [18:59] what happened to it [18:59] I wonder if maybe forking feedjack would be a good idea [19:00] it was really good, had admin tool for managing accounts [19:00] I like bzr (then again, I also like wikis, so there you go) [19:00] pleia2: I don't disagree, but not everyone who is a member is technical enough to use bzr [19:01] wiki's aren't completely bad.. its just wikis gone wild that are [19:01] lol [19:02] cjohnston: +1 [19:02] on both bzr and wiki [19:02] popey: do you know what happened to Daviey's? [19:03] pass [19:03] I would rather people _did_ have to use bzr [19:03] minimum level of clue to post to the planet required ☺ [19:03] so restrict membership to having a clue? ;-) [19:03] "wikis gone wild" should be a video sold on TV at 2am [19:04] mhall119 being the producer and jcastro being the lead of the 'delete team' [19:04] cjohnston: IIRC, voices.canonical.com is built on feedjack, same for the cloud portal maybe [19:04] * mhall119 is not responsible for the content of that video [19:04] all wikis pages are 18 years old or older [19:05] lol [19:05] 18 days or older [19:05] cjohnston: it was based on feedjack, had user forms for managing your feed [19:05] used LP sso [19:05] i see voices has the same theme problem [19:05] Daviey: that's kinda what i was thinking [19:06] grabed the LP aviator, or grvatar or hotlink [19:06] mugshot, -1 [19:06] cjohnston: also checked to see if they were members [19:06] that sounds like a great idea for it [19:07] eww.. theme fail... get over the fact that I clearly typed the wrong address: http://voices.canonical.com/store [19:07] cjohnston: when will you have it finished? [19:08] mhall119: get me permission to do it and it turns out good we will switch to it and ill look into it [19:08] cjohnston: Hmm, this wasn't the latest version.. but it's what i pushed http://ubuntuuk.daviey.com/planet/ [19:08] I give you permission to make it, then we'll convince people to switch to it [19:09] cjohnston: head to http://ubuntuuk.daviey.com/planet/editfeed [19:09] i believe jpds also has an interest in this.. this week infact i saw him talking about it [19:11] hrm [19:11] I'm not a member :-( [19:14] sucks to be you. [19:15] Daviey: what all work still needs to be done on it? [19:16] cjohnston: NFI [19:16] cjohnston: i'd like to start from sratch tbh [19:16] rebranch from feedjack or completely scratch? [19:18] cjohnston: Hmm, start the customisations from sratch [19:19] the user management. [19:19] gotcha... [19:19] I wouldn't be totally against working on that.. a FeedJack 2.0 of sorts [19:20] right [19:20] Daviey: is your code in LP somewhere? [19:20] well, ISTR i used feedjack as a plugable app which i extended. [19:21] cjohnston: no, closed source awesomness [19:21] lol [19:25] cjohnston: it's essential to speak with jpds, he has made some progress on this aswell. [19:27] ok [19:39] 2:30, I suppose I have time for lunch now [19:39] man where did my day go [19:43] jcastro; to your past? === jussio1 is now known as jussi [20:45] cjohnston, on the canonical voices feed.. I'm afraid I've just added it for a third time [20:45] * cjohnston pops your balloons [21:10] jono: ping? [21:11] balloons, I'm dieing to know the history of your irc nick :-) (Sorry just had to ask) [21:11] akgraner: it's rather funny [21:12] mhall119, that is not helping my curiosity :-P [21:13] balloons can no longer be balloons as i have popped his balloons [21:13] cjohnston: a popped balloon is still a balloon [21:13] hehe [21:13] true [21:13] just not an inflated balloon... [21:13] Evening all. [21:14] hi popey [21:14] paste & go would be awesome in chromium [21:14] nothing is as exciting as "I like Star Wars and PrincessLeia was taken on irc.scifi.com" [21:15] hey jussi [21:15] there's an irc.scifi.com? [21:16] maybe it's scyfy.com now [21:16] not anymore, I think it closed in 2002 or so [21:16] jcastro: such a stupid name :( [21:17] akgraner, history isn't history if it doesn't repeat right? [21:17] and yes cjohnston did pop ALL of my balloons :-( [21:18] * mhall119 is hating sourceforge's trac right now [21:18] * jussi wonders who balloons actually is.. [21:18] jussi, balloons is another florida guy [21:19] * balloons thins he's some weird guy who started hanging out in the channel.. claims to know mhall119 [21:19] there is this thing called /whois jussi [21:19] ☺ [21:19] * cjohnston doesnt know him [21:19] popey: +1 [21:19] jussi, I'm actually the new QA community coordinator on jono's team [21:20] balloons: I'm the only one you haven't met yet [21:20] https://launchpad.net/~nskaggs, that face and me share the same body [21:20] balloons: your not on jono's team... https://launchpad.net/~canonical-community [21:20] mhall119: did you not meet him in orlando? [21:20] mhall119, i know that makes it more funny [21:20] cjohnston: if I did, I don't remember [21:20] balloons: dont stress, mhall119 is boring anyway :P :P :P [21:20] he remembered me for some reason [21:20] * popey thinks pleia2 might like http://i.imgur.com/wnXpF.jpg [21:20] I really am [21:20] popey: thats just scarey [21:20] rainbows! [21:21] cjohnston: probably because you weren't locked away in a room at the other end of the convention building [21:21] cjohnston, yea.. I met you because I am friends with svwilliams [21:21] he did some loco work, and naturally met you [21:21] mhall119: dont complain.. you kow you liked it [21:21] balloons: we need to get him back to hacking, and you to start hacking [21:22] cjohnston: recruit balloons to do QA for summit and LTP [21:22] I've actually got a project in the works, but I did get a merge request in for upstart that week, so I got my goal in :-) [21:22] balloons: you should do our qa for summit and ltp [21:22] that way they don't die and i dont get fired [21:22] wait.. can you get fired from a volunteer gig? if so, how do I do it [21:23] cjohnston: you can't, just ask akgraner [21:23] ROFL [21:23] popey: oh dear... [21:23] cjohnston: we're like the hotel california [21:24] :-P [21:25] cjohnston, look again https://launchpad.net/~canonical-community [21:26] tralallalal [21:26] heh [21:27] woah.. just noticed chanserv bot hanging in here [21:27] meh, bed time. sleep while she is sleeping they say... [21:27] i for one welcome our new bot overlord [21:27] balloons: thats because we have it guarding the channel [21:27] "This team does not use Launchpad" [21:27] :p [21:35] mhall119, btw, David Calle's lens uses Singlet :-) [21:35] https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/ubuntu-accomplishments-system/trophieslens [21:38] jono: \o/ [21:39] I expect to get bugs filed from him now [21:39] indeed [21:39] still, at least he got that far with it [21:41] 62 lines of code, not bad at all [21:42] indeed :-) [21:48] jcastro: "Stop making Linux so easy! You're ruining everything!" [21:50] (c) 1990s Linux Guy [21:52] "So if you believe in the principles behind UNIX and Open Source, please don't write software which requires any of the Gnome/KDE and DBus API." I mean, really? [21:57] you reading hacker news again? [21:59] that article is interesting for some true history.. however, he is writing from the perspective linux = free unix clone.. it's simply not the goal [22:13] linux hipster, lol [22:23] balloons, don't get me started on erroneous labels. :) [22:24] jo-erlend, what's GNU/Linux again? [22:24] * balloons ducks [22:24] popey: pink++ [22:25] balloons, or Gnome 2. The GNU/Linux thing doesn't really hurt so much. The Gnome2 thing does. [22:26] it's been an interesting ride for sure [22:26] I don't think you'll ever see me refer to Linux when I mean something other than the kernel though. [22:27] I do prefer GNU+Linux, actually. It's less ambiguous. [22:27] It has less of the Windows 3.11/7 connotation. [22:28] hehe.. terms terms [22:28] let's just say there is alot of neat stuff out there.. and if it's open, it's amazing what you can do with it [22:28] the language should be well defined, but must never stand still. :) [22:28] think about the kernel itself.. how many arch's and devices has it been ported to? [22:29] 6? [22:29] I have no idea. That's not important to me. It's when the language begins to reduce knowledge that I become obsessive. [22:30] the unofficial but interesting list from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_supported_architectures [22:30] the kernel itself talks about a dozen or so [22:30] the kernel 3.x readme is interesting to read :-) [22:31] People refer to Gnome Panel as "Gnome 2". But Gnome Panel was there in Gnome 1 and is still there in Gnome 3. So why are people calling it Gnome 2? Because the default in Gnome 3 is different. So, Ubuntu switched to Gnome 3. That has to mean we no longer have Gnome Panel, right? Anything else would be confusing. [22:31] lol.. it's gtk, gtk2 and gtk3 [22:31] as well.. [22:32] and different techs used at each point [22:32] bonoboo [22:32] but when people refer to Gnome 2, they're not usually talking about GConf, GTK, or things like that. They're simply referring to the panels. They don't know its name, which is understandable since it was the only shell in Gnome prior to 3. But now that becomes a huge problem, because it actively reduces knowledge. [22:33] ahh.. I got your point [22:33] right right [22:33] then it escalates to Gnome 3 vs Unity, and Gnome Panel simply vanishes, even if it's seen more development during the last six months than it's seen during the last six years. [22:35] yea.. there's alot of misinformation [22:37] !ALOT [22:37] Do you like to hug alot? - http://ubottu.com/y/2 and http://ubottu.com/y/3 [22:37] ^_^ [22:37] Yes, I do [22:38] Sorry, I'm compulsive on Alot [22:38] balloons: stop sweating [22:38] swearing [22:38] very much [22:39] bonobo is a dirty word [22:39] i like this alot more http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html [22:39] tldr version http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TffVGLElI/AAAAAAAACxA/trH1ch0Y3tI/s1600/ALOT6.png [22:39] * mhall119 loves the alot [22:40] what's not to love right? [22:42] mhall119, know anything about Quickly? [22:43] any idea how I can read in command line options? [22:43] I know how to do it in Python [22:43] but I am not sure how to pass 'quickly run' options [22:43] jono: specific to Quickly, no, buut there are python modules that make it pretty easy [22:44] mhall119, so I have specified an option in __init__.py [22:44] but I don't know how to pass them when running 'quickly run' [22:47] jono: which __init__? [22:48] mhall119, in my project [22:48] trophyinfo/__init__.py [22:49] it runs parse_options() [22:50] jono: have parse_options() return options [22:50] then make line 33: [22:50] options = parse_options() [22:51] then you should be able to get your CLI arguments from the options variable [22:52] mhall119, yup [22:52] the problem I have is passing options to the aspp [22:52] app [22:52] I want to do this "quickly run --my-option" [22:52] but that doesn't seem to jive :-) [22:53] did you add it to parse_options? [22:53] yep [22:53] oh [22:53] hang on, it does work [22:53] <-- muppet [22:53] I see on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jonobacon/ubuntu-accomplishments-system/trophyinfo/view/head:/trophyinfo/__init__.py that you have dest="verbose" for both -v and -c, that won't work [22:53] well, it won't work the way you expect [22:53] oh? [22:54] dest is the name of the attribute it'll put on the options variable [22:54] so how do I read these options in my main app? [22:54] if you have 2 flags (-v and -c) with the same dest, one will overwrite the other [22:54] what is the dest? [22:54] line 25, change dest="verbose" to dest="clear" [22:55] jono: hey is it possible to get the ubuntu facebook thing to friend my new account? I wasn't able to friend you last I tried. [22:55] then options.clear should have your argument value [22:55] jono: (I have a webinar announcement I'd like to publish) [22:55] according to http://docs.python.org/library/optparse.html anyway [22:55] jcastro, I added you [22:55] let me check [22:56] jcastro, I sent a friend request [22:56] aha! needed to confirm [22:56] ok, done [22:58] jcastro, done [22:59] jono: also, for the record, White Castle is a totally legitimate Valentine's destination: http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutcheck/2012/02/love_castle_white_castle_valentines_day_2012.php [22:59]