[05:37] <stgraber> jibel: bug 932539
[05:37] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 932539 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "qemu exits with -11 when connecting to a port redirect before the service starts listening (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932539
[05:37] <stgraber> jibel: that's the kvm bug preventing auto upgrade testing on Precise
[05:38] <stgraber> jibel: and that's the ugly workaround: http://paste.ubuntu.com/842664/
[05:39] <stgraber> jibel: I'll poke hallyn about it tomorrow (well, later today ...)
[08:29] <jibel> stgraber, ah, mvo filed one already. I think it's the same
[08:30] <jibel> stgraber, bug 921961
[08:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 921961 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "qemu-system-x86_64 crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921961
[11:39] <njin> stgraber, do you think today is possible to have Lucid build ?
[13:41] <njin> jibel, a god notice, upgraded 10.04.04 to precise via net without problems
[13:42] <jibel> njin, great. Did you see a weird dialog during upgrade asking you where to install grub ?
[13:43] <jibel> I saw that yesterday but not sure if it's my setup
[13:53] <njin> jibel, no, only if mantain the older conf or install the new
[14:05] <stgraber> jibel: they should probably be merged, though in my case I only seem to get the return -11 apport didn't detect a segfault nor was a segfault message printed in the terminal
[14:06] <stgraber> jibel: could be apport not working though, it did that quite a bit recently
[14:45] <jp_Hranice> Hallo there. I have a problem. I am unable to boot from USB at daily live Lucid 10.04 LTS ( I file a bug #932794 )
[14:47] <jibel> bug 932794
[14:49] <jibel> jp_Hranice, is ti public ?
[14:51] <jp_Hranice> jibel: yes, it is.
[14:52] <jp_Hranice> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/932794
[14:57] <jibel> jp_Hranice, thanks, does it boot if you type 'live' without the quotes at the boot prompt ?
[14:58] <cwayne> jp_Hranice: how did you burn the USB stick? With usb-creator-gtk?
[14:58] <jp_Hranice> OK I will try.
[14:58] <jibel> jp_Hranice, which tool did you use to create the stick ?
[14:58] <jibel> (what cwayne just said)
[14:59]  * cwayne has noticed its best to use unetbootin to create sticks for older versions
[14:59] <jp_Hranice> jibel: usb-creator
[15:00] <jibel> jp_Hranice, ok, that's bug 645818 then
[15:00] <jp_Hranice> have I mark as duplicate ?
[15:01] <jibel> jp_Hranice, yes please.
[15:03] <cwayne> jp_Hranice: if you create a new stick with unetbootin it should work
[15:04] <jp_Hranice> OK. Thanks guys.
[15:10] <brendand> jp_Hranice, that's a known bug, assuming you are using a recent version of Ubuntu
[15:10] <brendand> jp_Hranice, you need to use the Lucid version of usb-creator-gtk to create a Lucid live USB stick
[15:10] <brendand> or use unetbootin like cwayne suggested already
[15:11] <jp_Hranice> brendand: Thanks.
[15:24] <charlie-tca> Good morning, testers
[15:28] <jibel> charlie-tca, good morning tester :)
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Looks like Kubuntu 10.04.4 needs a bit of help. will start with 64bit desktop there
[16:31] <njin> charlie-tca, good morning tester
[16:31] <njin> here 5 pm
[16:33] <njin> stgraber, there's a Lucid amd64 rebuild in the next hours?
[16:41] <skaet> njin,  no lucid rebuild planned at this point - not seeing any new regressions/issues, just known bugs.
[16:42]  * skaet keeping an eye on the iso tracker though.... ;)
[18:22] <balloons> looking at the iso tracker, I have time this afternoon to help.. any iso you'd like me to run thru?
[18:23]  * yofel fetches the kubuntu dvd's
[18:24] <charlie-tca> balloons: can you grab Kubuntu 386 desktop?
[18:24] <balloons> yes, i'm hanging out in the #kubuntu-devel channel
[18:24] <balloons> and I am downloading that iso now
[18:25] <balloons> i can queue a ubuntu version up as well.. that will fill the pipes with downloads for a bit ;-)
[18:25] <charlie-tca> I am running 64bit desktop, and should be able to run the alternate 64 tests too, but can't do dvd's due to my internet connec tion
[18:25] <balloons> same same
[18:26] <charlie-tca> I should be able to pay more attention to it now, finished bugsquad meeting
[18:26] <charlie-tca> got until 21:00UTC before the next one
[18:27] <yofel> charlie-tca: I'll do the DVD's
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Great!
[18:27] <yofel> fetching both currently
[18:31] <jibel> balloons, chinese, japanese or korean and validating install would help too.
[18:32] <balloons> jibel, so just grab the say 64 bit desktop iso and try those languages?
[18:33] <balloons> ahh.. i see the non-english tests.. noted
[18:33] <albrigha> jibel, is there something i can test while i'm spending some time with qemi/xen/kvm?
[18:33] <balloons> it will take a bit to get the iso, then I'll roll on those also
[18:33] <jibel> balloons, yes, grab a desktop image, install in chinese then try to input some data in chinese in gedit
[18:34] <jibel> balloons, there's a test scenario that describe it step by step if you're not fluent in chinese
[18:35] <balloons> jibel, why your in luck. i speak excellent mandarin
[18:35]  * balloons is kidding
[18:36] <balloons> thanks i'll look out for the docs
[18:37] <jibel> balloons, and we need also to run a screen reader install too
[18:38] <jibel> and after that I think it's good for ubuntu, only known issues, no regression
[18:38] <jibel> I'm currently running ltsp
[18:38] <jibel> then I'll do vmware easy install.
[18:39] <jibel> if any one wnat to test iscsi, go ahead
[18:49] <charlie-tca> jibel: does wubi have to be done for kubuntu?
[18:50] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes because the installer will use the new image
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Okay
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Will need help with Kubuntu desktop 64, live session (netbook) and wubi. I have no windows machines, and no netbooks.
[20:00] <balloons> jibel, cjk input worked as expected in the test case.. you want me to test for all 4 listed languages, or is one enough?
[20:00] <balloons> i can do the screen reader install now as well
[20:01] <balloons> charlie-tca, the kubuntu i386 went fine
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Great
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Kubuntu desktop 64 except netbook live session and wubi are done
[20:01] <balloons> i need to write down the user/pass combos i use.. lol
[20:02] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:02] <charlie-tca> I know that one :-)
[20:03] <balloons> this seems to have a bad link
[20:03] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/207/builds/11921/testcases/854/results
[20:03] <balloons> is the netbook live session low-fat-settings or ?
[20:03] <balloons> i didn't think kubuntu still shipped the netbook plasma view
[20:04] <balloons> starting on ubuntu i386 screen reader
[20:07] <charlie-tca> I don't really know what the difference is between the netbook live session and the desktop live session
[20:08] <charlie-tca> The test case is invalid, and the download is the same for both
[20:09] <balloons> jibel, the screen reader test seems incorrect for 10.04
[20:10] <charlie-tca> balloons: it probably is.
[20:10] <charlie-tca> There were a ton of changes because of unity
[20:10] <charlie-tca> I can run it, if you want
[20:10] <balloons> i'm rolling thru anyway to ensure screen reader works more or less
[20:10] <balloons> the alt+f9 thing is wrong
[20:10] <charlie-tca> Most of it will be wrong since 10.04 did not have unity
[20:11] <charlie-tca> You have to start with f4 at the menu, I think it is.
[20:12] <astraljava> balloons: Sorry for missing the meeting, but it wouldn't have been productive anyway. I have been way too busy with my personal life issues since last week, so I don't know what has happened in the project, and none of my tasks have progressed anyhow. So, hopefully this changes soon as Beta-1 closes.
[20:12] <balloons> astraljava, no worries.. it has been busy is a serious understatement
[20:12] <charlie-tca> balloons: the alt+F9 is for the unity launchers, as I recall.
[20:12] <balloons> it's been crazy busy :-)
[20:13] <astraljava> Damn right. :)
[20:13] <charlie-tca> balloons: start at step 28 for 10.04
[20:14] <balloons> geg
[20:14] <balloons> hehe
[20:14] <balloons> charlie-tca, no audio on time zone or region
[20:14] <charlie-tca> right
[20:14] <charlie-tca> it has always failed their
[20:14] <charlie-tca> their == there
[20:15] <balloons> hmm.. not hearing partitioning options etheir
[20:15] <charlie-tca> That doesn't sound right
[20:16] <balloons> yea.. it seems to have stopped reading
[20:16] <balloons> hehe
[20:16] <balloons> at spi crash
[20:17] <balloons> ok, so apport couldn't collect info.. how do I report this crash.. shall I reboot and try again or ?
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I usually want it to happen twice before reporting.
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Then if apport fails, report manually using the format at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout
[20:23] <balloons> kk, trying again
[20:23] <charlie-tca> I get to re-write that test every time they change Ubuntu
[20:24] <charlie-tca> and, yes, it is down for another re-write to match the latest unity stuff
[20:25] <balloons> charlie-tca, yes.. it gets fun sometimes I'll bet!
[20:25] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah
[20:25] <charlie-tca> Gives me something to do, every cycle :-)
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I have to try and do that before the beta1 tests
[20:26] <charlie-tca> but, usually, we can't get the accessibility stuff in until after beta1
[20:29] <balloons> hmm yep, stops speaking anything but keyboard commands :-(
[20:29] <balloons> same crash
[20:29] <charlie-tca> ouch
[20:29] <charlie-tca> going to be a bear to fix, too
[20:30] <balloons> yea.. they'll love me
[20:30] <balloons> ok, I'll use the format.. file against which packageD?
[20:31] <charlie-tca> give me a minute
[20:31] <charlie-tca> at-spi
[20:31] <balloons> thanks.. this is what's crashing, https://launchpad.net/at-spi
[20:31] <charlie-tca> since that is what crashed
[20:31] <charlie-tca> that will work
[20:32] <balloons> but do i need to include anything with it.. i guess not
[20:32] <balloons> since casper / ubiquity are fine
[20:32] <charlie-tca> Not
[20:32] <charlie-tca> I will run a verification test and pull logs if possible
[20:32] <charlie-tca> usually, it is a conflict we have to fix with difficulty
[20:35] <balloons> ok, this is feeling lame.. I can't see to find a way to report :( it's greyed out
[20:35] <charlie-tca> what's greyed out?
[20:36] <charlie-tca> Start here and file it manually...
[20:36] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[20:36] <balloons> yes.. working thru it :-)
[20:36] <charlie-tca> Then, to complete the test, click failed, enter a bug number under bugs found, and click save
[20:37] <balloons> stuck on password again
[20:37] <balloons> lol
[20:37] <balloons> sheesh
[20:38] <charlie-tca> was that in a virtual machine?
[20:38] <charlie-tca> I am going to run it against real hardware. As I recall, it won't work in VM's
[20:39] <balloons> charlie-tca, actually it was in a vm
[20:39] <balloons> good point
[20:39] <balloons> i don't have real hardware i can test on
[20:39] <charlie-tca> I don't think it will work in a vm
[20:39] <balloons> to reproduce, basically just start the install
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Let me run it on hardware and see what happens
[20:39] <balloons> it reads the first screen fine, then stops reading
[20:40] <balloons> if you close installer, you'll see the crash dialog pop up
[20:40] <balloons> k -- I'll hold on pressing the submit button :-)
[20:40] <charlie-tca> Okay. I will give it a try, and let you know what it does
[20:42] <charlie-tca> well, crap. My cd burn failed
[20:42] <charlie-tca> trying again
[20:46] <balloons> hmmmm
[20:46] <charlie-tca> Okay, booting now
[20:47] <yofel> hm, how up-to-date are the ISO's supposed to be? here the system is telling me that I have ~220 security updates pending after installation
[20:49] <charlie-tca> I haven't had any on the desktop 64 image
[20:49] <charlie-tca> It sounds almost like an out of date image
[20:49] <charlie-tca> I would expect 220 or so from 10.04.3
[20:50] <charlie-tca> or even earlier than that
[20:50]  * yofel looks for the checksums
[20:53] <charlie-tca> balloons: alt+F1 to get to menus, left arrow, left arrow, down arrow, down arrow, left arrow, down arrow to install
[20:53] <yofel> skaet: the kubuntu lucid images that are up for testing for 10.04.4 have the same checksums as the images for 10.04.2
[20:53] <yofel> the DVD images
[20:53] <balloons> alt+f1.. I remember that :-)
[20:54] <skaet> yofel,  that's weird.
[20:54]  * skaet looking
[20:54] <charlie-tca> But that's only for 10.04
[20:54] <yofel> I fetched it from rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/lucid/dvd/20110215/lucid-dvd-i386.iso
[20:55] <yofel> oh
[20:55] <yofel> 2011
[20:55] <yofel> skaet: ^
[20:55] <yofel> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/207/builds/11935/downloads
[20:55] <charlie-tca> balloons: still working. got through the keyboard section
[20:55] <skaet> yofel, fixing...
[20:56] <charlie-tca> The catch is, if you use the mouse, the keyboard doesn't always make it talk again
[20:56] <yofel> thank
[20:56] <yofel> s
[20:57] <charlie-tca> Working through the disk partitions, now at Who are you
[20:57] <balloons> charlie-tca, yea, i didn't use the mouse .. but I did use escape, tab, down enter to run the installer
[20:57] <charlie-tca> escape turns off orca in this one
[20:57] <charlie-tca> I think
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Made it through the installer. It is quite a complicated process now, after working with unity
[20:59] <charlie-tca> and, of course, the buttons don't all read correctly. It looks okay, though
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Now installing
[20:59] <balloons> ok, charlie-tca likely false alarm then
[20:59] <balloons> thanks for checking it out
[21:00] <charlie-tca> balloons: practice makes perfect. It is a very involved process to do the install from the screenreader
[21:00] <charlie-tca> and, I did not follow the test case :-(
[21:00] <charlie-tca> I did it from memory
[21:00]  * balloons is impressed
[21:01] <charlie-tca> It is much more impressive when you not so visually impaired people manage to make it work
[21:02] <balloons> alrighty
[21:02] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:03] <balloons> well, i can grab another iso and test.. perhaps the alt kubuntu i386
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Some of us have more practice with these things :-)
[21:03] <skaet> yofel,  yeah it was a date confusion, and i thought the DVD had been built and just needed to be posted.   turned out to be the 10.04.2 one.
[21:03]  * skaet looking into getting it built now.
[21:03] <charlie-tca> I will run both screenreader installs, and then hit the alternate 64 for kubuntu
[21:04] <yofel> I'll do the 86 alternate then while waiting on the DVD's
[21:05] <yofel> ah, you're going to do that balloons?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> You can have the 64 alternate if you want
[21:05] <yofel> I'll take that then
[21:05] <balloons> ok, sounds good
[21:05] <charlie-tca> I have to run these screenreader tests in Ubuntu first
[21:17] <skaet> yofel,  have started the build off...
[21:18] <yofel> :)
[21:18] <balloons> 5 mins left on iso dl
[21:18] <balloons> yaya
[21:48] <charlie-tca> screenreader 386 install working
[21:50] <njin> charlie-tca, i still affected by the session started mute, is fixed on one mache but not on the other
[21:50] <balloons> i386 kubuntu alt going well
[21:50] <charlie-tca> njin: the chances of that getting fixed in 10.04 is almost nil, though.
[21:50] <charlie-tca> It is machine specific
[21:50] <njin> sure
[22:04]  * balloons never realized the alt installer is so much slower than ubiquity
[22:05] <skaet> Lucid 10.04.4 Kubuntu DVD's posted to the iso tracker.
[22:05] <skaet> yofel, ^  hopefully all matches up nicely now...
[22:06] <yofel> resyncing
[22:17] <charlie-tca> Okay, screen readers are done. Which tests are next?
[22:18] <balloons> i'm rolling thru the i386 stuff.. doing encryption now
[22:18] <charlie-tca> yofel: should I run 64bit alternate encrypted/
[22:18] <charlie-tca> ?
[22:19] <yofel> sure, I'm doing auto-resize currently
[22:19] <charlie-tca> got it
[22:21] <charlie-tca> You are going to the dvd tests next? If so, I will finish the alternate 64
[22:23] <yofel> that would be good
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Okay, then I will probably go do a korean language install of Ubuntu to satisfy the CJK install
[22:30] <balloons> charlie-tca, which version? i did a korean cjk for i386
[22:31] <balloons> ubuntu that is
[22:31] <charlie-tca> 64bit needs a non-network install
[23:01] <charlie-tca> oops,. Ubuntu 64 needs the network cjk install
[23:03] <balloons> k.. i386 kubuntu encryption looks good
[23:03] <charlie-tca> yay!
[23:07] <yofel> DVDs look fine too so far this time (d-i full install and live session)
[23:08] <balloons> k guys -- I'm out for today.. food is calling :-)
[23:09] <charlie-tca> balloons: Thanks for helping
[23:09] <balloons> it was fun
[23:09] <balloons> thanks for helping me!
[23:09] <yofel> thank you for helping too