[04:08] <Sarvatt> broder: I dunno about breaking xorg 6.9 to make nx faster, there actually is a xorg 6.9 comsumer of ubuntu in windows (xming)
[04:09] <Sarvatt> of course i havent seen a windows ubuntu thing since hardy
[04:11] <Sarvatt> 6.9 is the latest free version of xorg for xming and they used that for the portable ubuntu crap that i did use at one point
[04:13] <Sarvatt> in reference to breaking cairo for xorg < 7.0 because it makes nx slower
[04:14] <broder> oh, ugh
[04:14] <broder> and it's actually 6.9.0, too?
[04:14] <broder> (my patch matched 6.9.0 exactly)
[04:17] <Sarvatt> well 6.9 is artificial, how did it match 6.9.0?
[04:17] <Sarvatt> specific xserver version shipped in that xorg release?
[04:18] <broder> VendorRelease
[04:18] <broder> which was the xorg release number before xorg 7.0, at which point it became the xserver version
[04:18] <Sarvatt> trying to figure out what version is shipped in that, thats really less high impact that making nx work for sure but would still break *something*
[04:19] <broder> i'm very open to ideas for picking out nx specifically, but i couldn't figure out how to tell by querying my X display
[04:19] <broder> (there was stuff in the environment, but i don't think i should rely on that)
[04:22] <broder> Sarvatt: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/cairo/precise/view/head:/src/cairo-xlib-display.c#L360 walks through the original logic
[04:32] <Sarvatt> eww, i see what you mean, and yeah totally the only option i can see
[04:32]  * Sarvatt wasnt even aware of the versions being reported differently that long ago
[04:34] <broder> the xming page claims that it's kept current
[04:34] <Sarvatt> xming isnt important anyway, wasnt trying to imply its worth caring about. they charger for newer stuff and it looks like portable ubuntu dropped of completly
[04:35] <Sarvatt> 6.9 was just the last free version they ship
[04:35] <broder> oh i see. suck
[14:35] <gotwig> hey
[14:47] <ricotz> bjsnider, hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/932781
[14:48] <orated> Will Ubuntu Precise release be able to disable Nvidia Optimus?
[14:51] <tjaalton> orated: automatically? no, disable it from bios if possible
[14:52] <orated> tjaalton: My BIOS doesn't allow that sadly
[14:52] <tseliot> tjaalton: I think RAOF worked on an app to disable one card if optimus is enabled
[14:53] <tseliot> ricotz: too bad. That's the releasing that I'm going to upload in Precise
[14:54] <ricotz> tseliot, hey, just do it
[14:54] <tseliot> :)
[14:54] <tseliot> we can probably update it later when it's fixed
[14:55] <ricotz> tseliot, this could be a g-s extension problem too
[14:55] <tseliot> right
[14:55] <ricotz> tseliot, i dont think it is a good idea to delay nvidia on this
[14:56] <tseliot> I agree
[14:56] <ricotz> please upload it
[14:56] <ricotz> tseliot, could you clean up the packaging a bit, look at the xedgers packaging
[14:56] <tseliot> ricotz: I will. I'm waiting to finish some other work on hybrid graphics
[14:57] <tseliot> ricotz: clean up the packaging?
[14:57] <ricotz> tseliot, oh, i think i cleaned the fglrx packaging, not nvidia
[14:57] <tseliot> ricotz: I'll have a look at that
[14:57] <ricotz> i mean the debian/control which was a bit messy
[14:58] <tseliot> ah, ok
[14:58] <ricotz> if you are going to look at 8.930 too, be aware that upstream is broken a bit
[14:58] <ricotz> while shipping a wrong file
[14:58] <tseliot> I'm waiting for another driver release
[15:12] <ricotz> tseliot, wrap-and-sort helps
[15:15] <tjaalton> tseliot: ok
[15:31] <bdmurray> cnd: would you know anything about my magicpad not pasting anymore with a 3 finger touch (that used to be a middle click)
[15:33] <cnd> bdmurray, yes, it conflicts with three touch gestures, so we had to disable it
[15:34] <cnd> you can manually override
[15:34] <cnd> but that's the best we can do at this point
[15:35] <bdmurray> and how do I override it?
[15:48] <cnd> bdmurray, run xinput, and tell me your trackpad's device name
[15:49] <bdmurray> Apple Wireless Trackpad                   id=12   [slave  pointer  (2)]
[15:49] <cnd> xinput set-prop "Apple Wireless Trackpad" "synaptics Tap Action" 2 3 0 0 1 3 2
[15:50] <cnd> oops, forgot a capitalization
[15:50] <cnd> the tap action prop should start with 'S'ynaptics
[15:52] <cnd> bdmurray, ^^
[15:52] <bdmurray> I see thanks!
[15:52] <cnd> bdmurray, that's safe to put in bashrc if you want
[15:53] <cnd> well, bashrc probably isn't best
[15:53] <cnd> whatever that x startup rc script is
[15:59] <cnd> bdmurray, when you have that enabled, you'll be forgoing three touch gestures in unity
[16:00] <cnd> fair warning :)
[16:01] <bdmurray> I don't even know what three touch gestures work! ;-)
[16:04] <cnd> bdmurray, they might not right now
[16:05] <cnd> we're working out some bugs in our new stack
[16:05] <cnd> but three touches on a window in unity will allow you to move the window around