apacheloggerman this is rubbish -.-00:03
Riddellclimb out the dustbin apachelogger 00:09
* apachelogger closes browser then :P00:10
* yofel done with DVD's00:14
yofelthere are some testcases for the other images still to be done, but I need sleep, good night00:15
Riddellthanks yofel!00:15
apacheloggerwhy the plymouth theme has that much code is really beyond me00:19
apacheloggerwhy it uses en_GB is even more confusing00:19
apachelogger            password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetX (password_dialogue.bullets[index].x);00:20
Riddellwritten by a pedantic British English speaker like me?00:23
Riddellrbelem: kde-artwork-active has no upstream licence information, I've e-mailed upstream to ask what it is00:23
* apachelogger will patch it in german then :P00:24
Riddellapachelogger: Austrian German I hope00:24
apacheloggercan try00:24
rbelemRiddell, i just got two files with license info :-/00:25
apacheloggeralso the get prefix stuff is even more silly in austrian german00:27
apacheloggerRiddell, rbelem: any objections to removing the kubuntu logo from plymouth?00:29
apacheloggerlike this00:31
Riddellrbelem: I know, it's an upstream bug00:33
Riddellapachelogger: why?00:35
* Riddell puts the Ingo guy on moderation for his trolling on kubuntu-devel00:36
apacheloggerRiddell: because it looks better00:37
* rbelem downloads00:37
apacheloggerunless sheytan makes us an industrialized version00:37
apacheloggerthat is monochrome with sort of embedded appearance00:37
apacheloggerotherwise it looks like utter rubbish on the wallpaper00:38
* apachelogger points out that it also didn't look to good on the previous gradient00:38
Riddellapachelogger: you think it looks bad to have a logo?00:39
Riddelleven apple has a logo on boot00:39
rbelemapachelogger, just the dots?00:39
rbelemapachelogger, it looks nice, but i fell that something is missing00:40
apacheloggerRiddell: no, I think it looks wrong in that alignment I am working on00:41
apacheloggeras it does not integrate with the wallpaper00:41
apacheloggerRiddell: and I do not think they have a logo00:41
apacheloggerthey only have a circular indicator00:41
apacheloggerlogo is only there when EFI starts00:41
rbelemapachelogger, i found the color really nice  and the dots position00:42
Riddellapachelogger: has sheytan given an opinion or is it just your idea?00:43
Riddellapachelogger: go ahead however you think best, I'm off to bed00:45
* rbelem goes to feed my baby boy :-)00:46
apacheloggerRiddell: we can always introduce a visually fitting version of the logo later, I do not generally dismiss the idea of having a logo there, just not the logo as-is00:47
apacheloggeranyone knows why the kubuntu-text theme is in plymouth package and not kds?00:56
apacheloggerdpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 9)01:02
apacheloggerdpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.01:02
apacheloggeranyone cares to explain why a package like kds requires dh9?!01:02
Davieyapachelogger: i think Multi Arch in Debian does.01:08
apacheloggerbut how does that affect kds? :O01:08
apacheloggerchangelog is super informative of course01:09
* apachelogger reboots01:09
apachelogger!find nbib.h01:18
ubottuFile nbib.h found in texlive-doc-en01:18
apacheloggercan't load DistUpgradeViewKDE (coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, tuple found)01:35
apacheloggerRiddell: that doesn't sound good?01:35
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apacheloggerwhat is it with this language and being broken -.-01:51
apacheloggeryou are gotta be fing kidding me01:55
apacheloggerbug 88154101:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 881541 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py uses mktemp -- which is insecure" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88154101:55
apacheloggermkstemp() returns a tuple containing an OS-level handle to an open file (as would be returned by os.open()) and the absolute pathname of that file, in that order.01:55
apachelogger            shutil.copy(os.environ['XAUTHORITY'], copyXauth)01:55
apacheloggerI am the touple in your string <301:55
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apacheloggershadeslayer: Package: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-text-ui_0.3.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb04:40
apacheloggerError: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/ktelepathy/template.html', which is also in package telepathy-kde-text-ui 0.1.0+20111105-0~oneiric104:40
schnelle_yofel: I sent mail to one of kmess devs asking for a new release. this is the responce:08:10
schnelle_"I'll try to make a release this weekend (probably on sunday).08:11
schnelle_The stable git hasn't changed much since the previous release, but08:11
schnelle_it's indeed better to have a release packaged.08:11
schnelle_Most of my development effort currently goes into KMess-Telepathy."08:11
Riddelloh apachelogger, did you break DistUpgradeViewKDE ?08:33
Riddellapachelogger: unicode errors are the bain of python 2, it's why we should move to python 3.  but it's not as bad as weird ARM casting errors like kdelibs/compiz is giving us in c++08:34
bambee_apachelogger: I know, I need to find time for that. actually, I've to finish some stuffs in phonon(vdo) and port it to meego + I need to recontribute to kubuntu :) ... mhhh...  did you look my code for userconfig/cpp ? it's better.. ?08:53
bambee_mhhh... however work on userconfig/cpp is a kind of contribution for kubuntu... 08:54
Riddelluserconfig/cpp is a port of userconfig to c++?08:54
bambee_yes it is08:54
bambee_actually it works only in "read-only"08:54
bambee_it's not finished yet08:54
Riddellbambee_: what's the hope to achieve?08:54
bambee_Riddell: 1)° get a faster userconfig module , 2)°  most of us know c++ better than python, it's easier to maintain it, 3)° there are some features proposed by kdelibs not binded in pykde4. (kconfig xt is a good example)09:03
Riddellbambee_: and do you hope to finally get it into kde sc?09:06
bambee_why not. For a beginning, I think that's better to get it working (completely working I mean) for kubuntu and then I could request an inclusion in kde on upstream :)09:09
bambee_so yes I do, but later :)09:09
Riddellgood good :)09:09
bambee_it's a good idea to rethink userconfig in cpp.. ? what do you think ?09:11
bambee_I mean, everyone must give his opinion :)09:11
Riddellbambee_: oh sure whatever it takes to get it maintained and upstreamed09:39
koolhead11hi Riddell , idea sounds perfect :P09:39
Riddellkoolhead11: have you tried it?09:40
Ezimhi guys/girls muon is not working correct.09:40
Ezimit gives error message, but apt-get update/apt-get upgrade from terminal works perfect.09:40
Ezimsame problem with muon 1.2.1 and also 1.2.309:41
RiddellEzim: file a bug, jon is usually responsive (if you file it in english with logs etc)09:42
EzimRiddell, hmm, now with muon 1.2.3 2-3 time trying to update it works.09:43
Ezimlet me se first what happens when I change from main server to swedish server in the repo09:44
Ezimokey now I understand the problem. the problem only happens first time changing from/to main server/local server in the repo09:48
koolhead11Riddell: i have not, but been following the news/story surrounding it :P09:50
Riddellkoolhead11: the first step to packaging it if you think it's useful for ubuntu is to compile it and try it yourself to decide if it really is useful09:51
koolhead11okey. 09:52
EzimRiddell, I will file a bug later today. now I must go to uni. have nice day.09:54
EzimI file the bug now instead10:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933366 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon gives error message when updating" [Undecided,New]10:17
Riddelldamn upgrading phonon packaging to 4.6 breaks multiarch10:31
EzimRiddell, were do I report kernel bug?10:33
yofelschnelle_: if that has new features it'll need an FFE then, but I guess it's high priority and soon enough10:34
* yofel wonders why his server crash this time10:35
RiddellEzim: like every other bug, upstream or launchpad depending on how's at fault10:35
yofelkernel bugs usually on launchpad with 'ubuntu-bug linux' and wait for a response from the kernel team10:36
Riddellyofel: damn these new gcc errors are going to be a hassle10:51
Riddelldigikam failed on "no matching function for call to 'qMin(qreal, double)'"10:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933387 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth usb problem in Kubuntu 11.10! Kernel related? " [Undecided,New]10:53
Ezimtwo bugs report :) today.10:53
Ezimnow I feel good10:53
yofelRiddell: hm, the armhf build log says: no matching function for call to 'qBound(double, qreal, qreal)10:54
yofelwell, same issue10:54
Riddellyofel: yeah, I think it's that gcc has become more fussy recently10:56
Riddellso it needs worked out how to satisfy gcc10:57
Riddellwhen is the arm meeting?10:57
yofelwell, IIRC arm has no double, so that should be s/double/qreal/10:57
Riddelljust a qreal() around it maybe?10:58
Riddellso faffy to do this without an arm machine to test on10:58
RiddellI've not got mine set up yet and ScottK's are down I think so we'll only have the secret PPA I use to try it on10:58
yofelI have my armel VM, but that'll need a day to build digikam10:59
* yofel tries anyway10:59
Ezimguys you understand what I did file in?11:03
yofelEzim: ?11:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933387 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth usb problem in Kubuntu 11.10! Kernel related? " [Undecided,Confirmed]11:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933366 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon gives error message when updating" [Undecided,New]11:03
yofelEzim: we're not talking about that11:03
yofelthe muon bug will be looked at by Jonthechidna11:04
Ezimyofel, I know. Wanted to se if you guys can understand what i did write.11:04
yofelsounds understandable11:05
yofelEzim: except muon11:05
yofelEzim: can you run muon with 'LANG=C muon' from Konsole and try again?11:05
yofelso you get a screenshot in english11:05
Ezimyofel, oki.11:06
Ezimyofel, now it does not give message. :(11:07
yofeltypical ^^11:07
Ezimyofel, seems running muon from terminal does not give any problem at all11:08
yofelwell, what's the error in the first place, I can't read your screenshot11:09
Ezimit says it fails to download..11:10
Ezimdoes repos that are mentioned11:11
yofelah, that looks more like a connection issue on your side11:11
yofelor unresponsive server11:11
yofelwouldn't be the first time11:12
Ezimyofel, sure? my connection here is perfect.11:12
Ezimsudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get upgrade does not give this error at all11:12
Ezimalso running muon from terminal does not give any error message11:14
debfxapachelogger: so phonon-gst 4.5 is  incompatible with 4.6? will there be a release soon? should we package a snapshot?11:16
tazzis it a bad idea to include a meta-package as a dependency instead of individual packages?11:26
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yofeltazz: well, kde-full might be a bad idea. But boost for example has dev meta packages11:28
Riddelldebfx: are you looking at phonon?11:30
debfxah there is a phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.0.tar.xz11:32
debfxRiddell: so yes11:32
Riddelldebfx: I'm stuck on getting phonon 4.6 to build with the libraries going into multiarch dirs11:40
Riddell-DLIB_INSTALL_DIR doesn't seem to be enough now11:40
yofelRiddell: oxygen-gtk3 sets -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX_INITIALIZED_TO_DEFAULT=1 with debhelper 9, maybe try that?11:44
* yofel isn't particulary good with mutliarch either11:44
debfxRiddell: oh you are already working on phonon?11:45
debfxyofel: I think that's oxygen-gtk specific (to read the libdir from libgtk pkg-config files)11:45
Riddelldebfx: well I was but now I'm stuck11:47
Riddellapachelogger: waa, what did you change in the phonon build system?!11:49
debfxRiddell: -DLIB_SUFFIX=/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) instead of the -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR11:57
debfxapachelogger: ^ why is that turned off by default?!!1111:58
* Riddell tries12:00
Riddelldebfx: genius!12:01
Riddelldebfx: want me to finish off or are you onto it?12:01
debfxRiddell: I can do it if you want me to but I don't want to steal it from you ;)12:11
debfxso far I've only updated  the watch file12:13
apacheloggeroh highlightmadness12:15
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 93322512:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933225 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "DistUpgradeViewKDE broken since last security update" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93322512:16
apacheloggerbambee_: well, unless you want to fix the userconfig bugs on lp I'd say it is unmaintained ^^12:17
apacheloggerdebfx: yes, pgst 4.5 does not build with phonon 4.612:17
apacheloggerneither pvlc 0.4 for that matter12:18
apacheloggerfortunately enough we uploaded new versions of both to ftpmaster >12 hours ago so you should be able to find them on a mirror near you :)12:18
Riddelldebfx: I've got it mostly compiled here12:18
Riddelldebfx: send me the watch file12:19
Riddelldebfx: but I shouldn't upload if there's no gstreamer plugin right?12:19
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Ezimhi guys. problem again. when I installed: sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils12:29
apachelogger!find p4-clockmod.ko12:30
ubottuFile p4-clockmod.ko found in linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-12-server, linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-13-server, linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-14-server, linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-15-server, linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-16-server (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=p4-clockmod.ko&mode=&suite=oneiric&arch=any12:30
apacheloggercurious when I go there on -12 has the ko ^^12:31
Ezimapachelogger, what should I do?12:32
apacheloggerI dunno12:33
apacheloggerEzim: #kubuntu is for support, maybe they know :)12:33
Ezimapachelogger, np. tired of the kernel problem.12:34
Ezimubuntu kernel team can manage to compile a kernel correct12:35
apacheloggerit is not exactly trivial TBH12:35
Ezimapachelogger, it have also effected the boot time.12:37
apacheloggerhow can you tell?12:37
Ezimshould never install that package even when I remove it the problem is there12:37
Ezimapachelogger, :) easy bootchart or taking time with cellphone12:38
apacheloggerEzim: timing with a cellphone is rather data to work with?!12:38
apacheloggers/rather/rather not/12:38
Ezimapachelogger, :) I can see and feel it is slower.12:39
EzimI can show it with bootchart if thats needed12:39
Ezimproblem is I have not used bootchart before the problem so you would not know12:39
debfxRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/423338/12:40
apacheloggerEzim: then from where I am standing there is no boot time decrease :P12:40
Ezimapachelogger, :).12:40
apacheloggerdebfx: we do not do bz2 tars anymore12:40
apacheloggerall of phonon12:40
debfxRiddell: there is a new gstreamer plugin. we should test them together before uploading.12:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: how do you make ktp autoconnnect on start?12:43
* apachelogger is too stupid12:43
debfxapachelogger: I hope the vlc plugin works with vlc 2.012:44
apacheloggeryou know I am married to the president of videolan, right? :O12:45
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apacheloggerbug 93343312:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933433 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu manual install crashed during bootloader configuration with Python stacktrace" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93343312:47
apacheloggeroh oh12:47
apacheloggerdebfx: there is one thing that is a problem with chromium by default.... CSD (happy guessing :P)13:01
BluesKajHowdy all13:06
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yofelapachelogger: well, it doesn't look that bad13:07
debfxapachelogger: chrome specific dust?13:14
Ezimapachelogger, I think I know what to do. I did sudo touch /forcefsck and then looked to /var/log/boot.log13:17
Ezimit was only: FATAL: Error inserting p4_clockmod (/lib/modules/3.0.0-16-generic/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.ko): No such device13:17
Ezimmy i only using: powernow-k813:17
Ezimcould I blacklist  p4_clockmod?13:18
apacheloggeryofel: it breaks the paradigm + window shadow + upstream doesn't like it13:23
apacheloggerdebfx: yes, I think13:23
apacheloggeroh no13:23
apacheloggerclient side deocrations or something13:24
apacheloggerEzim: I do not even know what you are doing and support still is in #kubuntu :P13:24
debfxapachelogger: who on earth uses client side decorations?13:26
apacheloggerchromium users13:27
apacheloggerparticularly since it looks like rubbish if you do not13:27
debfxRiddell: are you pushing phonon to a ppa?13:30
apacheloggersomeone might want to cherry pick this13:36
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debfxapachelogger: you should cherry-pick that into the nm09 branch13:39
apacheloggergood lawd13:39
apacheloggerdebfx: http://commits.kde.org/networkmanagement/7ef95f693d15535bd7e2312a8cfa4dc5f2767ea513:40
Kanohi, where is the live-build config für kubuntu?13:51
Kanohi Riddell 13:53
apacheloggerRiddell: I take it we still do not have enough space to put all wallpaper resolutions on the CD?13:59
apacheloggerKano: what is a live-build config?14:00
Kanoi found it in livecd-rootfs14:00
debfxwe currently have -9MB space for additional stuff14:01
apacheloggerlets fill it up with wallies :P14:02
apacheloggerI fear that scaling the background for plymouth may increase boot time on low spec machines a bit14:02
BluesKajI'll ask here since ubuntu+1 seems rather busy atm , Hi folks , are there still some issues with upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS , there's a warning here from Feb3 , is this still relevant ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha214:02
apacheloggerBluesKaj: upgrading is entirely broken right now14:03
apacheloggeroh, actually14:03
apacheloggertext based upgrade should work14:03
apacheloggergui is broken14:03
BluesKajapachelogger,  thanks , i appreciate the quick response :)14:03
apacheloggerBluesKaj: should work fine with text14:03
* apachelogger upgraded 12 hours ago, upgrade went fine :)14:04
BluesKajok if he does the do-release-upgrade -d in the cli , it should be successful ?14:04
BluesKajapp ^14:04
BluesKajapachelogger, ^14:05
BluesKaji've never done an LTS to LTS upgrade , is that the correct command?14:05
BluesKajok thanks 14:06
Riddellapachelogger: not remotely enough space, we're 12MB over14:07
apacheloggerwe really need to get away from this stupid CD size14:07
Riddellit's a top candidate for +1 for sure14:08
apacheloggerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/423476/14:09
apacheloggerwhat is going on there14:10
apachelogger29M     /usr/share/wallpapers/Ariya/contents/images14:10
apacheloggerhrrhrr ^^14:10
apacheloggermaybe I am doing it wrong14:10
apacheloggerkde-wallpapers-default ships only /usr/share/wallpapers/Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png 14:12
apacheloggerRiddell: I think I can whip up code that avoids scaling when kde-wallpapers is installed then14:12
* apachelogger approves the way this is packaged :D14:12
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, do we have a PPA with oxygen font yet?14:13
apacheloggerI haven't talked to upstream yet, but perhaps that would also be something to look into for +114:13
Riddellapachelogger: we do not but feel free to throw it into kubuntu-ppa/experimental or the like14:13
apacheloggerwill do14:14
apacheloggerfirst plymouth though14:14
Riddellapachelogger: yes it is, I've been having long e-mails discussions with google and RMS and sladen about font licences and I need to update the KDE licence policy before I think about packaging14:14
Riddellbut you can mostly avoid that14:14
apacheloggergood enough for PPA ^^14:16
* apachelogger makes coffee and ponders on how to make plymouth theme avoid scaling14:17
Riddellhmm lucid on USB stick won't boot for me14:28
* Riddell wonders whether to blame the image, the USB stick, the netbook or something else14:29
Riddelldebfx, apachelogger: hmm do I want files in this directlry? usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/phonon/PhononConfigVersion.cmake14:41
apacheloggerotherwise the backend won't be able to find libphonon14:41
rbelemRiddell, try erase the usb stick partition area three times14:42
Riddellrbelem: why three times?14:42
rbelemRiddell, to make sure it is erased :-D14:42
rbelemRiddell, the ideal is 25 times iirc14:43
rbelemthe gnupg file shereder does that14:44
apacheloggergod do I hate X14:44
schnelleRiddell: IIRC something is changed after lucid so if you make lucid startup disk in oneiric it won't work. 14:44
Riddellschnelle: err hum14:44
Riddellschnelle: I can believe that but it means I need to find another way to make a startup disk (or give up, it's not that important)14:45
schnellesome option, sys somthing is added or removed after lucid iirc. i was linux/kubuntu noob back then so i don't remember exacly wat is was14:46
schnelle*what it was14:46
schnelletry with unetbootin :)14:47
* yofel had a flash driver that he simply had to flash twice for it to boot14:47
apacheloggery b plymouth so crappy?14:48
Riddellrbelem's idea didn't help "unknown keyword in configuration file gfxboot"14:49
Ezimapachelogger, plymouth for me is kind of wierd. shutdown splash looks good. Like it should be, but upstart splash (plymouth) looks okey in resolution but not good like shutdown splash.14:49
rbelemRiddell, the problem is not the usb stick then14:50
EzimRiddell, do you have problem booting up with liveusb? have you tried with different bootoption?14:51
yofelrbelem: I've seen bug reports with that error for other images14:52
rbelemRiddell, the problem seems to be in the image14:52
yofelsee qa tracker14:52
yofelRiddell: ^14:52
yofelbug 64581814:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 645818 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64581814:53
Riddell14:50 < jibel> Riddell, bug 645818 , nothing new or regressed in .414:54
Riddelltrying unetbootin for lack of any other workaround14:54
* Mamarok switches to Precise14:56
Riddell14:56 < jibel> at the 'boot:' prompt enter 'live' to boot to a live session or press 'TAB' to get a list of options15:01
EzimRiddell, can it be that your usb stick format is not recognized?15:05
Ezimyou can try format it with ext2/ext3/fat1615:05
EzimI had similar problem long time ago15:05
* apachelogger has no clue how to test plymouth without bricking his system15:08
apacheloggerEzim: sounds weird15:08
apacheloggerparticularly since it is only a gradient so I'd guess that the driver reports a bogus resolution15:09
Ezimapachelogger, :) only weird things happens to me this days.15:09
RiddellEzim: it's bug 64581815:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 645818 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64581815:10
Riddellapachelogger: virtualbox15:10
apacheloggeryeha, downloading image right now15:11
apacheloggerbut I thought one was able to test it on the live system15:11
EzimRiddell, okey.15:11
apacheloggerwhich is interestingly not the case15:11
apacheloggerit does not work anyway15:11
* apachelogger actually like to rewrite the enitre script to be perfectly honest15:12
apacheloggerthat thing is nothing but weird15:12
apacheloggerfun StringString(string, substring) {15:12
apacheloggerin a javascript-esque language!15:12
Ezimapachelogger, was usplash not better then plymouth?15:12
apacheloggerdefines by what attribute you judge better :P15:12
Ezimapachelogger, :).15:13
apacheloggers/defines by/depends by/15:13
kubotuapachelogger meant: "depends by what attribute you judge better :P"15:13
apacheloggeror depends on15:13
* apachelogger is confused now15:13
apacheloggerStringString(apachelogger, log)15:13
Riddell>start-pulseaudio-kde 15:17
RiddellFailure: Module initalisation failed15:17
Riddellanyone else getting that?15:18
apacheloggerRiddell: in xession?15:18
EzimRiddell, yes, same here.15:18
kubotuapachelogger meant: "Riddell: in .xessoin-errors?"15:18
apacheloggermore typos15:18
EzimRiddell, what does that mean, that pulseaudio does not work correctly?15:19
apacheloggerit means that the kde hardware listing module could not be initialized15:20
apacheloggerwhich is normal if you run that binary on an already initialized pulseaudio15:20
apacheloggerhence my question if that appears in the .xsession-errors file or when you run it manually15:20
Ezimapachelogger, okey. will take look.15:20
apacheloggerif you run it manually that is obviously a true failure :P15:20
apacheloggeryou cannot initialize the module twice ^^15:21
Ezimapachelogger, no I have not. but this was weird: kded(1511): The kded module name ' "muon-notifier" ' is invalid! 15:24
apachelogger!find muon-notifier.desktop15:25
ubottuFile muon-notifier.desktop found in muon-notifier15:25
apacheloggerEzim: do you have that package installed?15:25
Ezimapachelogger, yes.15:26
RiddellEzim: yes pulseaudio breakage15:26
Ezim:( to many breakage for me today. 15:26
Ezimhmm battery-widget should it not have performance etc in 4.8.0?15:31
rbelemRiddell, when feature freeze takes effect?16:01
Riddellrbelem: when skaet starts giving us evil stares which will be in about 5 hours16:02
Riddellrbelem: what are you hoping to get in?16:02
rbelemRiddell, startactive and declarative-plasmoids16:03
rbelemRiddell, i will try to finish them in next hours16:05
Riddellthanks rbelem 16:07
Riddellapachelogger: what's wrong here? http://paste.kde.org/423572/16:19
Riddellphonon 4.6 works fine, add phonon-gstreamer 4.6 and amarok gives me that16:19
Riddelloh the file is in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_gstreamer.so  but should be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/16:31
BluesKajrbelem,  what does a feature freeze actually mean ?16:32
Riddelllook on the wiki16:32
BluesKajNo search result found for ubuntu feature freeze , in the wiki search16:36
BluesKajnm , I'll do some more looking16:36
BluesKajmikecb,  yeah , thanks i managed to find it from my wiki.ubuntu bookmark 16:45
mikecbI cheated, used the google.16:46
BluesKajI should know better anyway, mikecb ...these devs are obviously very busy today :)16:51
mikecbmeh, all these things are easy to know generally, but each project might have a very specific criteria or process.16:52
Riddellrbelem: active artwork should be sorted for licencing, can you remake the package?17:08
apacheloggerRiddell: no17:48
Riddellapachelogger: no what?17:48
apacheloggerRiddell: the qt4 stuff should symlink to kde417:48
apacheloggerRiddell: also kde apps should search in kde4/plugins over qt4/plugins17:48
apacheloggerso I guess something is off with kdelibs in precise17:49
Riddellyes I guess something is off17:49
rbelemRiddell, oki :-)17:50
* apachelogger almost fell asleep again17:51
apacheloggeryesterday I almost napped through a meeting17:52
* apachelogger is pulling too many rodrigos recently17:52
apacheloggerRiddell: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/16/plasma-desktopU11513.png17:56
apacheloggerubiquity background link wrong?17:56
Riddellapachelogger: yes17:57
apacheloggerubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py:        self.bgImage = QtGui.QImage("/usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png")17:59
apacheloggeris that the one?17:59
apachelogger!find kde-default.pn18:00
apachelogger!find kde-default.png18:00
ubottuFile kde-default.pn found in kde-wallpapers-default18:00
ubottuFile kde-default.png found in kde-wallpapers-default18:00
rbelemRiddell, i just uploaded to kubuntu-active ppa18:00
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apachelogger>>> dpkg -S kde-default.png18:02
apacheloggerkde-wallpapers-default: /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png18:02
apacheloggerRiddell: I do not compute why it does not work TBH18:02
apacheloggerand where is stripes coming from18:04
apacheloggeroh boy18:04
apacheloggerkde-workspace-data: /usr/share/wallpapers/stripes.png18:04
apacheloggerkde-workspace-data: /usr/share/wallpapers/stripes.png.desktop18:04
apacheloggerwhat uses that?18:04
Riddellapachelogger: I don't know I'm afraid18:04
yofelwhy is that even in workspace o.O18:05
apacheloggerthere I just wanted to test my plymouth code and end up fixing ubiquity ^^18:05
apacheloggerI blame someone involved with plasma active18:05
apachelogger./kdm/kfrontend/pics/CMakeLists.txt:install( FILES stripes.png stripes.png.desktop  DESTINATION ${WALLPAPER_INSTALL_DIR} )18:06
apacheloggeranyone got time to fix the screenshot?18:07
Riddellkoolhead17: ubuntu@ec2-107-21-186-224.compute-1.amazonaws.com18:07
apacheloggeryofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/16/plasma-desktopH11513.png18:08
apacheloggerthat is why18:08
apacheloggerI totally do not get this18:08
apacheloggerroyally screwed18:08
apacheloggeryofel: do you have time to patch it away?18:09
apacheloggerputs off my karma18:09
yofelcan do18:09
apacheloggerthat file has only one resolution and is shown in plasma18:09
apacheloggerthus offering more failed wallpaper quality18:09
yofelthe list on the background selection page is fooey too18:10
yofeloffers: albatross, bluebird, kde-default (being horos for some reason here), stripes (twice)18:11
apacheloggerscrew that feature18:11
apacheloggerif people start messing with that they can live with crappy listing :P18:12
yofelIf I remove stripes.png it shows a blue screen in the preview. OK IMO18:12
Riddellrbelem: kde-artwork-active uploaded18:13
rbelemthx Riddell :-D18:13
yofeler, huh?18:13
yofelwhy is that even isntalled?18:13
yofel-install( FILES stripes.png stripes.png.desktop  DESTINATION ${WALLPAPER_INSTALL_DIR} )18:14
yofel+#install( FILES stripes.png stripes.png.desktop  DESTINATION ${WALLPAPER_INSTALL_DIR} )18:14
yofelwhy do we have 2 kubuntu kdmrc patches @_@18:15
apacheloggeryofel: just change it to the full path of kde-default18:15
Riddellbecause we rename and adapt the debian one and depending on the merge we might rename it differently?18:15
apacheloggeractually I wonder why that does not show up in plasma18:15
apacheloggeryofel: that link needs updating18:16
apacheloggerthat is why you get horos on that 18:16
apacheloggerand its why the wally in ubiquity is broken18:16
yofeloh, fixing18:16
yofelalso, the used kdmrc patch isn't even completely correct18:16
* yofel fixes more18:16
apacheloggerwe need to do something about this18:17
apacheloggernow I have 318:17
apacheloggerthis needs a more global resolution18:18
* apachelogger files a bug18:19
apacheloggerRiddell: did you drop kopete from the CD?18:19
ScottKapachelogger: He did.18:20
apacheloggercan we please revert this? :P18:20
* apachelogger has a broken entry in kickoff now18:20
apacheloggerwhen someone sees sheytan please tell him that we need a new ubiquity design18:22
apacheloggerthe old slidshow does not go with ariya at all18:22
apacheloggerdidn't he actually have some new artwork or something forever ago and maco2 did not integrate it or something? :P18:24
Riddellapachelogger: yes (for now)18:24
Riddellshadeslayer: 18:24 < mterry> Riddell, ktp-common-internals needs some symbol tightening, FYI.  Commented in the bug18:25
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog kde-wallpapers-default.links) Switch kde-default.png link from Horos to Ariya18:25
Riddellshadeslayer: 18:28 < mterry> Riddell, and a minor bug with ktp-presence-applet, comment in bug18:30
koolhead17guys am trying this https://github.com/dragotin/mirall18:34
koolhead17deps require qt4.718:34
koolhead17any pointer how/ways i can get it working in order to get mirall compiled?18:34
yofelkoolhead17: you don't have libqt4-dev installed18:44
koolhead17yofel: i dont think so. am trying it on aws. am installing the pkg u msged :)18:44
yofelhm, compiled fine here on precise18:45
koolhead17yofel: am on precious as well18:45
yofelkoolhead17: can you pastebin what cmake tells you?18:45
koolhead171 min18:46
koolhead17yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844769/18:47
koolhead17i installed libqt4-dev18:48
yofelkoolhead17: where are you right now?18:48
ScottKRight above you on my IRC scrollback.18:48
koolhead17yofel: on cloud!! :P18:49
yofelkoolhead17: no, I mean in what folder is your prompt ^^18:49
apacheloggero(w)n cloud18:49
koolhead17yofel: /home/ubuntu/mirall/build18:50
koolhead17i created the directory18:50
koolhead17apachelogger: :P18:50
koolhead17yofel: am new in the field sir!! :)18:50
yofelhm, looks right, but then that should be failing o.O18:51
yofelkoolhead17: and the  /home/ubuntu/mirall/CMakeLists.txt is really there?18:51
CIA-42[kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20120216185208-zhwfl08juh6hu1x4 * (5 files in 2 dirs) wip New theme18:52
* apachelogger finds bzr really inconvenient most of the time18:52
koolhead17yofel: yeah18:52
* yofel is clueless18:52
yofelmaybe wipe the build directory clean and try again18:53
apacheloggerd__ed: ping... how does the educated user make ktp autoconnect on startup?18:53
schnelleguys we should ask some artists to make some beautiful theme for kubuntu. i am using new chakra theme and it is stunning. Plus diskrete chakra brending on logout dialogs etc. Just stunnig18:53
yofelkoolhead17: this is what you should get: http://paste.kde.org/42366218:53
apacheloggerd__ed: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/16/plasma-desktopF12928.png18:55
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 616 * debian/ (changelog patches/kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff) * kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff: - fix xsessions directories - don't install and use stripes.png in kdm background settings18:55
yofelregression fixed18:56
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 617 * debian/patches/kubuntu_kdmrc_defaults.diff drop obsolete patch18:56
apacheloggerd__ed: now it keeps spamming me that it cant connect :(18:57
koolhead17yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844793/ 19:00
yofelscp copies the full folder contents?19:05
* yofel never uses scp19:05
BluesKajscp -r19:05
yofelah, good19:05
koolhead17BluesKaj: thats w00t i used :)19:06
koolhead17yofel: any other okg i should install?19:07
yofelno, that should be enough - I think19:07
yofelmaybe build-essential19:07
BluesKajscp -r /pathtofolder user@targetpc:/path to folder19:08
debfxRiddell: what's the status of the phonon packages?19:09
Riddelldebfx: in ~jr PPA19:09
Riddellneeding testing if built19:09
* BluesKaj wonders if he can run alsa with flash webaudio on pci audio without pulseaudio like i can with my elcheapo onboard soundcard19:12
BluesKajoops bad case choices ther e19:13
BluesKajmy pci maudio card sound so much better tho ..even with a second layer of processing 19:14
debfxI think it's too late when the ppa manages to build them19:15
debfxRiddell: I don't think we need to install backends into the kde dir19:16
debfxdoesn't PLUGIN_INSTALL_DIR work anymore?19:16
Riddelldebfx: yeah well apachelogger says we do19:18
Riddell(and I'm feeling grumpy today, grumpy grump)19:18
* apachelogger hugs Riddell19:21
apacheloggerdebfx: phonon plugins always have been in kde's dir :P19:21
apacheloggerthough qt should work too19:21
debfxapachelogger: not in debian and ubuntu19:21
apacheloggeryou are doing it wrong then :P19:22
* apachelogger can be a snob upstream now \\o/19:22
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, plymouth-x11 allows testing in a running session :)19:22
debfxapachelogger: what's the point in installing them into the kde dir? phonon doesn't ahve any kde dependencies, right?19:23
apacheloggerdebfx: no, but otherwise it'd conflict with the qt ones :P19:24
koolhead17yofel: you were correct :)19:25
debfxso since we don't build the qt phonon copy we're doing it the right way19:26
Riddelldebfx: does it work for you?19:26
apacheloggerdebfx: grey area :)19:27
apacheloggerplymouth should be redone in qml19:27
Riddelltesters needed for Kubuntu Alternate i386 in Lucid 10.04.4  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/207/builds/11918/testcases19:27
debfxRiddell: I haven't tested with 4.6 but that's where the backends always were in kubuntu19:27
RiddellI can't do Install (auto-resize)19:27
apacheloggeryou cannot convert an integer to string out of the box19:27
apacheloggersilly thing19:27
apacheloggerqtscript ftw19:28
Riddelldebfx: can you test amd64 packages?19:28
apacheloggerI am thinking too complicated19:29
debfxRiddell: phonon ftbfs in your ppa19:29
Riddelldebfx: can you take over?19:30
debfxRiddell: sure19:36
Riddellthanks debfx 19:37
* apachelogger misses sheytan :(19:46
apacheloggerand whatever happened to Quintasan?19:46
TorpedoSkylineapachelogger: who's sheytan?19:52
apacheloggerthe mighty overlord of kubuntu artwork19:53
TorpedoSkylineapachelogger: where did he go?19:53
apacheloggerdunno, probably busy with life19:53
apacheloggerRiddell: I guess you wouldn't like it if I were to rewrite our plymouth script before LTS?19:54
Riddellapachelogger: you have 1 hour20:01
apacheloggerRiddell: well, ui freeze is next week20:01
RiddellFF is 1 hour20:01
* Riddell busy20:01
* apachelogger wouldn't think that is a feature :)20:02
apacheloggeralso I am not sure I want myself rewriting it at this point ^^20:02
Riddellcode rewrites are20:02
apacheloggerd__ed: you here now?20:03
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/16/plasma-desktopT12928.png what do ye think?20:21
mterryHello!  I'm working on getting the kde-telepathy stack into Ubuntu.  Can the stack can work OK without kde-telepathy-auth-handler installed?20:24
apacheloggermterry: we already have the stack in ubuntu20:25
apachelogger!info kde-telepathy precise20:25
ubottukde-telepathy (source: meta-kde-telepathy): metapackage for installing all the KDE Telepathy components. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB20:25
mterryapachelogger, sorry, into main.  I just reviewed the stack for MIR, but the auth-handler needs a security review, which won't make it for FF.  So I'm trying to get the rest of the stack in now20:26
mterryauth-handler can come in as an FFe20:26
Riddelld__ed: ^^20:26
mterryRiddell, (also, seed changes need to be made once this is done?)20:27
Riddellmterry: they're already done and it's already in main (because I'm cheeky and not in a mood to be restrained alas)20:28
Riddellit would be cool if it can stay there but if not I'm happy to accept that too20:28
mterryRiddell, ah, I didn't notice :)20:29
debfxapachelogger: please fix the rpath handling in phonon, many kittens already died because of that20:29
apacheloggerneeds fixing in kdelibs20:30
mterryRiddell, people that file a stack of MIRs a day before FF don't get to complain about being restrained  :)  Not that as a core-dev you haven't found ways around it20:30
Riddellmterry: oh I'm not complaining, it is my brain injury that means I'm in a bad mood way too easily, please don't be put off by me20:31
mterryRiddell, yar, I'm not put off.  Glad to do the MIRs!20:32
mterryRiddell, so kopete can be demoted in favor?  neat20:33
Riddellmterry: my hope is we can demote kopete yes20:33
apacheloggerok, I am rubbish with graphics20:33
apacheloggersomeone get me an artist pretty please :S20:33
Riddellmterry: kde-telepathy is new so it might not be good enough I know but it is good enough for me, we're still discussing20:34
debfxapachelogger: everything else seems to have proper rpath handling. currently you set the rpath unconditionally to "lib${LIB_SUFFIX}" which is hardly a valid rpath.20:34
mterryRiddell, ACK20:34
apacheloggerdebfx: I shurg ... the only patch I saw was code we stole from kdelibs20:35
apacheloggers/was/was changing/20:35
kubotuapachelogger meant: "debfx: I shurg ... the only patch I saw was changing code we stole from kdelibs"20:35
debfxapachelogger: at least put a ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/ in front of that20:36
apacheloggerdebfx: seriously talk to kde-buildsystem20:36
* apachelogger is not going to change cmake stuff again20:36
apacheloggerlast time I did I got a beating and broken compatibility from phonon 4.6 backwards20:37
debfxwell you can hardly break it more than it is right now20:41
apachelogger-rw-r--r--  1 root root  51M Feb 16 21:47 initrd.img-3.2.0-16-generic20:50
apacheloggerI lol'd20:50
charlie-tcaMandatory Kubuntu Alternate 386 tests are done, starting the one-time tests21:41
apacheloggerkubotu: order cookie for charlie-tca21:41
* kubotu slides one of world's finest cookies down the bar to charlie-tca.21:41
charlie-tcaStill need someone to run the wubi install on the Kubuntu Desktop 386, if anyone is available.21:41
charlie-tcaThanks, apachelogger 21:41
apacheloggerthank you!21:42
charlie-tcaToo many days that I can not do anything; I just try to help when I am able to.21:43
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skaetapachelogger, charlie-tca, Riddell, yofel, and others who've been helping test the kubuntu images....     10.04.4 images are released now.   Thanks for testing them and checking they were good to send out,  they wouldn't have been released without your help.23:00
charlie-tcayou are welcome; running the final test (expert install) now23:00
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charlie-tcafinished the 10.04.4 tests. Everything except wubi got done23:26
skaetcharlie-tca, great.   Thank you.   23:28
ScottKcharlie-tca: Thank you very much.23:28
charlie-tcaYou are welcome23:28
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