[00:03] man this is rubbish -.- [00:09] climb out the dustbin apachelogger [00:10] * apachelogger closes browser then :P [00:14] * yofel done with DVD's [00:15] there are some testcases for the other images still to be done, but I need sleep, good night [00:15] thanks yofel! [00:19] why the plymouth theme has that much code is really beyond me [00:19] why it uses en_GB is even more confusing [00:20] password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetX (password_dialogue.bullets[index].x); [00:23] written by a pedantic British English speaker like me? [00:23] rbelem: kde-artwork-active has no upstream licence information, I've e-mailed upstream to ask what it is [00:23] *shrug* [00:24] * apachelogger will patch it in german then :P [00:24] apachelogger: Austrian German I hope [00:24] can try [00:25] Riddell, i just got two files with license info :-/ [00:26] http://paste.kde.org/423212/ [00:27] also the get prefix stuff is even more silly in austrian german [00:29] Riddell, rbelem: any objections to removing the kubuntu logo from plymouth? [00:30] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/20120110_002.mp4 [00:31] like this [00:33] rbelem: I know, it's an upstream bug [00:35] apachelogger: why? [00:36] * Riddell puts the Ingo guy on moderation for his trolling on kubuntu-devel [00:37] Riddell: because it looks better [00:37] * rbelem downloads [00:37] unless sheytan makes us an industrialized version [00:37] that is monochrome with sort of embedded appearance [00:38] otherwise it looks like utter rubbish on the wallpaper [00:38] * apachelogger points out that it also didn't look to good on the previous gradient [00:39] apachelogger: you think it looks bad to have a logo? [00:39] even apple has a logo on boot [00:39] apachelogger, just the dots? [00:40] apachelogger, it looks nice, but i fell that something is missing [00:40] feel [00:41] Riddell: no, I think it looks wrong in that alignment I am working on [00:41] as it does not integrate with the wallpaper [00:41] Riddell: and I do not think they have a logo [00:41] they only have a circular indicator [00:41] logo is only there when EFI starts [00:42] apachelogger, i found the color really nice and the dots position [00:43] apachelogger: has sheytan given an opinion or is it just your idea? [00:45] apachelogger: go ahead however you think best, I'm off to bed [00:46] * rbelem goes to feed my baby boy :-) [00:47] Riddell: we can always introduce a visually fitting version of the logo later, I do not generally dismiss the idea of having a logo there, just not the logo as-is [00:56] anyone knows why the kubuntu-text theme is in plymouth package and not kds? [01:02] dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 9) [01:02] dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. [01:02] anyone cares to explain why a package like kds requires dh9?! [01:08] apachelogger: i think Multi Arch in Debian does. [01:08] but how does that affect kds? :O [01:09] changelog is super informative of course [01:09] <3 [01:09] * apachelogger reboots [01:09] NFI [01:18] !find nbib.h [01:18] File nbib.h found in texlive-doc-en [01:35] can't load DistUpgradeViewKDE (coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, tuple found) [01:35] Riddell: that doesn't sound good? === virusuy is now known as empanada-de-merl === empanada-de-merl is now known as HackDark === HackDark is now known as virusuy [01:51] what is it with this language and being broken -.- [01:54] ok [01:55] you are gotta be fing kidding me [01:55] bug 881541 [01:55] Launchpad bug 881541 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py uses mktemp -- which is insecure" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881541 [01:55] http://docs.python.org/library/tempfile.html [01:55] mkstemp() returns a tuple containing an OS-level handle to an open file (as would be returned by os.open()) and the absolute pathname of that file, in that order. [01:55] shutil.copy(os.environ['XAUTHORITY'], copyXauth) [01:55] I am the touple in your string <3 === koolhead17|afk is now known as koolhead17 [04:40] shadeslayer: Package: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-text-ui_0.3.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [04:40] Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/ktelepathy/template.html', which is also in package telepathy-kde-text-ui 0.1.0+20111105-0~oneiric1 [08:10] yofel: I sent mail to one of kmess devs asking for a new release. this is the responce: [08:11] "I'll try to make a release this weekend (probably on sunday). [08:11] The stable git hasn't changed much since the previous release, but [08:11] it's indeed better to have a release packaged. [08:11] Most of my development effort currently goes into KMess-Telepathy." [08:33] oh apachelogger, did you break DistUpgradeViewKDE ? [08:34] apachelogger: unicode errors are the bain of python 2, it's why we should move to python 3. but it's not as bad as weird ARM casting errors like kdelibs/compiz is giving us in c++ [08:53] apachelogger: I know, I need to find time for that. actually, I've to finish some stuffs in phonon(vdo) and port it to meego + I need to recontribute to kubuntu :) ... mhhh... did you look my code for userconfig/cpp ? it's better.. ? [08:54] mhhh... however work on userconfig/cpp is a kind of contribution for kubuntu... [08:54] well [08:54] userconfig/cpp is a port of userconfig to c++? [08:54] yes it is [08:54] actually it works only in "read-only" [08:54] it's not finished yet [08:54] bambee_: what's the hope to achieve? [09:03] Riddell: 1)° get a faster userconfig module , 2)° most of us know c++ better than python, it's easier to maintain it, 3)° there are some features proposed by kdelibs not binded in pykde4. (kconfig xt is a good example) [09:06] bambee_: and do you hope to finally get it into kde sc? [09:09] why not. For a beginning, I think that's better to get it working (completely working I mean) for kubuntu and then I could request an inclusion in kde on upstream :) [09:09] so yes I do, but later :) [09:09] good good :) [09:11] it's a good idea to rethink userconfig in cpp.. ? what do you think ? [09:11] I mean, everyone must give his opinion :) [09:39] bambee_: oh sure whatever it takes to get it maintained and upstreamed [09:39] hi Riddell , idea sounds perfect :P [09:40] koolhead11: have you tried it? [09:40] hi guys/girls muon is not working correct. [09:40] it gives error message, but apt-get update/apt-get upgrade from terminal works perfect. [09:41] http://imgur.com/S9rS9 [09:41] same problem with muon 1.2.1 and also 1.2.3 [09:42] Ezim: file a bug, jon is usually responsive (if you file it in english with logs etc) [09:43] Riddell, hmm, now with muon 1.2.3 2-3 time trying to update it works. [09:44] let me se first what happens when I change from main server to swedish server in the repo [09:48] okey now I understand the problem. the problem only happens first time changing from/to main server/local server in the repo [09:50] Riddell: i have not, but been following the news/story surrounding it :P [09:51] koolhead11: the first step to packaging it if you think it's useful for ubuntu is to compile it and try it yourself to decide if it really is useful [09:52] okey. [09:54] Riddell, I will file a bug later today. now I must go to uni. have nice day. [10:13] I file the bug now instead [10:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/933366 [10:17] Launchpad bug 933366 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon gives error message when updating" [Undecided,New] [10:31] damn upgrading phonon packaging to 4.6 breaks multiarch [10:33] Riddell, were do I report kernel bug? [10:34] schnelle_: if that has new features it'll need an FFE then, but I guess it's high priority and soon enough [10:35] * yofel wonders why his server crash this time [10:35] Ezim: like every other bug, upstream or launchpad depending on how's at fault [10:36] kernel bugs usually on launchpad with 'ubuntu-bug linux' and wait for a response from the kernel team [10:39] thx [10:51] yofel: damn these new gcc errors are going to be a hassle [10:51] digikam failed on "no matching function for call to 'qMin(qreal, double)'" [10:51] sigh [10:52] fun [10:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/933387 [10:53] Launchpad bug 933387 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth usb problem in Kubuntu 11.10! Kernel related? " [Undecided,New] [10:53] two bugs report :) today. [10:53] now I feel good [10:54] Riddell: hm, the armhf build log says: no matching function for call to 'qBound(double, qreal, qreal) [10:54] well, same issue [10:56] yofel: yeah, I think it's that gcc has become more fussy recently [10:57] so it needs worked out how to satisfy gcc [10:57] when is the arm meeting? [10:57] well, IIRC arm has no double, so that should be s/double/qreal/ [10:58] just a qreal() around it maybe? [10:58] so faffy to do this without an arm machine to test on [10:58] I've not got mine set up yet and ScottK's are down I think so we'll only have the secret PPA I use to try it on [10:59] hm [10:59] I have my armel VM, but that'll need a day to build digikam [10:59] * yofel tries anyway [11:03] guys you understand what I did file in? [11:03] Ezim: ? [11:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/933387 [11:03] Launchpad bug 933387 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth usb problem in Kubuntu 11.10! Kernel related? " [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/933366 [11:03] Launchpad bug 933366 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon gives error message when updating" [Undecided,New] [11:03] Ezim: we're not talking about that [11:04] the muon bug will be looked at by Jonthechidna [11:04] yofel, I know. Wanted to se if you guys can understand what i did write. [11:05] sounds understandable [11:05] Ezim: except muon [11:05] Ezim: can you run muon with 'LANG=C muon' from Konsole and try again? [11:05] so you get a screenshot in english [11:06] yofel, oki. [11:07] yofel, now it does not give message. :( [11:07] typical ^^ [11:08] yofel, seems running muon from terminal does not give any problem at all [11:09] well, what's the error in the first place, I can't read your screenshot [11:10] it says it fails to download.. [11:11] does repos that are mentioned [11:11] ah, that looks more like a connection issue on your side [11:11] or unresponsive server [11:12] wouldn't be the first time [11:12] yofel, sure? my connection here is perfect. [11:12] sudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get upgrade does not give this error at all [11:14] also running muon from terminal does not give any error message [11:16] apachelogger: so phonon-gst 4.5 is incompatible with 4.6? will there be a release soon? should we package a snapshot? [11:26] is it a bad idea to include a meta-package as a dependency instead of individual packages? [11:27] :P === peace_ is now known as Peace- [11:28] tazz: well, kde-full might be a bad idea. But boost for example has dev meta packages [11:29] right. [11:30] debfx: are you looking at phonon? [11:32] ah there is a phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.0.tar.xz [11:32] Riddell: so yes [11:40] debfx: I'm stuck on getting phonon 4.6 to build with the libraries going into multiarch dirs [11:40] -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR doesn't seem to be enough now [11:44] Riddell: oxygen-gtk3 sets -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX_INITIALIZED_TO_DEFAULT=1 with debhelper 9, maybe try that? [11:44] * yofel isn't particulary good with mutliarch either [11:45] Riddell: oh you are already working on phonon? [11:45] yofel: I think that's oxygen-gtk specific (to read the libdir from libgtk pkg-config files) [11:45] ah [11:45] k [11:47] debfx: well I was but now I'm stuck [11:48] bbl [11:49] apachelogger: waa, what did you change in the phonon build system?! [11:57] Riddell: -DLIB_SUFFIX=/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) instead of the -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR [11:58] and also -DPHONON_INSTALL_QT_EXTENSIONS_INTO_SYSTEM_QT=ON [11:58] apachelogger: ^ why is that turned off by default?!!11 [12:00] * Riddell tries [12:01] debfx: genius! [12:01] debfx: want me to finish off or are you onto it? [12:11] Riddell: I can do it if you want me to but I don't want to steal it from you ;) [12:13] so far I've only updated the watch file [12:15] oh highlightmadness [12:16] Riddell: bug 933225 [12:16] Launchpad bug 933225 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "DistUpgradeViewKDE broken since last security update" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933225 [12:17] bambee_: well, unless you want to fix the userconfig bugs on lp I'd say it is unmaintained ^^ [12:17] debfx: yes, pgst 4.5 does not build with phonon 4.6 [12:18] neither pvlc 0.4 for that matter [12:18] fortunately enough we uploaded new versions of both to ftpmaster >12 hours ago so you should be able to find them on a mirror near you :) [12:18] debfx: I've got it mostly compiled here [12:19] debfx: send me the watch file [12:19] debfx: but I shouldn't upload if there's no gstreamer plugin right? === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 10.04.4 needing testing | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr [12:29] hi guys. problem again. when I installed: sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils [12:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/844284/ [12:30] !find p4-clockmod.ko [12:30] File p4-clockmod.ko found in linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-12-server, linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-13-server, linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-14-server, linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-15-server, linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic, linux-image-3.0.0-16-server (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=p4-clockmod.ko&mode=&suite=oneiric&arch=any [12:31] curious when I go there on -12 has the ko ^^ [12:32] weller [12:32] apachelogger, what should I do? [12:33] I dunno [12:33] Ezim: #kubuntu is for support, maybe they know :) [12:34] apachelogger, np. tired of the kernel problem. [12:35] ubuntu kernel team can manage to compile a kernel correct [12:35] *cannot [12:35] it is not exactly trivial TBH [12:37] apachelogger, it have also effected the boot time. [12:37] how can you tell? [12:37] should never install that package even when I remove it the problem is there [12:38] apachelogger, :) easy bootchart or taking time with cellphone [12:38] Ezim: timing with a cellphone is rather data to work with?! [12:38] s/rather/rather not/ [12:39] apachelogger, :) I can see and feel it is slower. [12:39] I can show it with bootchart if thats needed [12:39] problem is I have not used bootchart before the problem so you would not know [12:40] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/423338/ [12:40] Ezim: then from where I am standing there is no boot time decrease :P [12:40] apachelogger, :). [12:40] debfx: we do not do bz2 tars anymore [12:40] xz-exclusively [12:40] all of phonon [12:40] Riddell: there is a new gstreamer plugin. we should test them together before uploading. [12:43] shadeslayer: how do you make ktp autoconnnect on start? [12:43] * apachelogger is too stupid [12:44] apachelogger: I hope the vlc plugin works with vlc 2.0 [12:45] you know I am married to the president of videolan, right? :O === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:47] bug 933433 [12:47] Launchpad bug 933433 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu manual install crashed during bootloader configuration with Python stacktrace" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933433 [12:47] oh oh [13:01] debfx: there is one thing that is a problem with chromium by default.... CSD (happy guessing :P) [13:06] Howdy all === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [13:07] apachelogger: well, it doesn't look that bad [13:14] apachelogger: chrome specific dust? [13:17] apachelogger, I think I know what to do. I did sudo touch /forcefsck and then looked to /var/log/boot.log [13:17] it was only: FATAL: Error inserting p4_clockmod (/lib/modules/3.0.0-16-generic/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.ko): No such device [13:17] my i only using: powernow-k8 [13:18] could I blacklist p4_clockmod? [13:23] yofel: it breaks the paradigm + window shadow + upstream doesn't like it [13:23] debfx: yes, I think [13:23] oh no [13:24] client side deocrations or something [13:24] Ezim: I do not even know what you are doing and support still is in #kubuntu :P [13:26] apachelogger: who on earth uses client side decorations? [13:27] chromium users [13:27] particularly since it looks like rubbish if you do not [13:30] Riddell: are you pushing phonon to a ppa? [13:36] http://commits.kde.org/networkmanagement/a45346cf150624176c2942df6dd1441274a0d62f [13:36] someone might want to cherry pick this === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:39] apachelogger: you should cherry-pick that into the nm09 branch [13:39] good lawd [13:40] debfx: http://commits.kde.org/networkmanagement/7ef95f693d15535bd7e2312a8cfa4dc5f2767ea5 [13:51] hi, where is the live-build config für kubuntu? [13:53] hi Riddell [13:59] Riddell: I take it we still do not have enough space to put all wallpaper resolutions on the CD? [14:00] Kano: what is a live-build config? [14:00] i found it in livecd-rootfs [14:00] k [14:01] we currently have -9MB space for additional stuff [14:02] lets fill it up with wallies :P [14:02] I fear that scaling the background for plymouth may increase boot time on low spec machines a bit [14:02] I'll ask here since ubuntu+1 seems rather busy atm , Hi folks , are there still some issues with upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS , there's a warning here from Feb3 , is this still relevant ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 [14:03] BluesKaj: upgrading is entirely broken right now [14:03] oh, actually [14:03] text based upgrade should work [14:03] gui is broken [14:03] apachelogger, thanks , i appreciate the quick response :) [14:03] BluesKaj: should work fine with text [14:04] * apachelogger upgraded 12 hours ago, upgrade went fine :) [14:04] ok if he does the do-release-upgrade -d in the cli , it should be successful ? [14:04] app ^ [14:05] apachelogger, ^ [14:05] yup [14:05] i've never done an LTS to LTS upgrade , is that the correct command? [14:05] yes [14:06] ok thanks [14:07] apachelogger: not remotely enough space, we're 12MB over [14:07] we really need to get away from this stupid CD size [14:08] it's a top candidate for +1 for sure [14:08] aye [14:09] oh [14:09] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/423476/ [14:09] ? [14:10] what is going on there [14:10] 29M /usr/share/wallpapers/Ariya/contents/images [14:10] hrrhrr ^^ [14:10] maybe I am doing it wrong [14:12] ah [14:12] kde-wallpapers-default ships only /usr/share/wallpapers/Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png [14:12] Riddell: I think I can whip up code that avoids scaling when kde-wallpapers is installed then [14:12] * apachelogger approves the way this is packaged :D [14:13] Riddell: btw, do we have a PPA with oxygen font yet? [14:13] I haven't talked to upstream yet, but perhaps that would also be something to look into for +1 [14:13] apachelogger: we do not but feel free to throw it into kubuntu-ppa/experimental or the like [14:14] will do [14:14] first plymouth though [14:14] apachelogger: yes it is, I've been having long e-mails discussions with google and RMS and sladen about font licences and I need to update the KDE licence policy before I think about packaging [14:14] but you can mostly avoid that [14:16] good enough for PPA ^^ [14:17] * apachelogger makes coffee and ponders on how to make plymouth theme avoid scaling [14:28] hmm lucid on USB stick won't boot for me [14:29] * Riddell wonders whether to blame the image, the USB stick, the netbook or something else [14:41] debfx, apachelogger: hmm do I want files in this directlry? usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/phonon/PhononConfigVersion.cmake [14:41] yes [14:41] otherwise the backend won't be able to find libphonon [14:42] Riddell, try erase the usb stick partition area three times [14:42] rbelem: why three times? [14:42] Riddell, to make sure it is erased :-D [14:43] Riddell, the ideal is 25 times iirc [14:43] gosh [14:44] the gnupg file shereder does that [14:44] god do I hate X [14:44] Riddell: IIRC something is changed after lucid so if you make lucid startup disk in oneiric it won't work. [14:44] schnelle: err hum [14:45] schnelle: I can believe that but it means I need to find another way to make a startup disk (or give up, it's not that important) [14:46] some option, sys somthing is added or removed after lucid iirc. i was linux/kubuntu noob back then so i don't remember exacly wat is was [14:46] *what it was [14:47] try with unetbootin :) [14:47] * yofel had a flash driver that he simply had to flash twice for it to boot [14:47] *drive [14:48] y b plymouth so crappy? [14:49] rbelem's idea didn't help "unknown keyword in configuration file gfxboot" [14:49] apachelogger, plymouth for me is kind of wierd. shutdown splash looks good. Like it should be, but upstart splash (plymouth) looks okey in resolution but not good like shutdown splash. [14:50] Riddell, the problem is not the usb stick then [14:51] Riddell, do you have problem booting up with liveusb? have you tried with different bootoption? [14:52] rbelem: I've seen bug reports with that error for other images [14:52] Riddell, the problem seems to be in the image [14:52] see qa tracker [14:52] Riddell: ^ [14:53] bug 645818 [14:53] Launchpad bug 645818 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645818 [14:54] 14:50 < jibel> Riddell, bug 645818 , nothing new or regressed in .4 [14:54] trying unetbootin for lack of any other workaround [14:56] * Mamarok switches to Precise [15:01] 14:56 < jibel> at the 'boot:' prompt enter 'live' to boot to a live session or press 'TAB' to get a list of options [15:05] Riddell, can it be that your usb stick format is not recognized? [15:05] you can try format it with ext2/ext3/fat16 [15:05] I had similar problem long time ago [15:08] * apachelogger has no clue how to test plymouth without bricking his system [15:08] Ezim: sounds weird [15:09] particularly since it is only a gradient so I'd guess that the driver reports a bogus resolution [15:09] apachelogger, :) only weird things happens to me this days. [15:10] Ezim: it's bug 645818 [15:10] Launchpad bug 645818 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645818 [15:10] apachelogger: virtualbox [15:11] yeha, downloading image right now [15:11] but I thought one was able to test it on the live system [15:11] Riddell, okey. [15:11] which is interestingly not the case [15:11] well [15:11] it does not work anyway [15:12] * apachelogger actually like to rewrite the enitre script to be perfectly honest [15:12] that thing is nothing but weird [15:12] fun StringString(string, substring) { [15:12] in a javascript-esque language! [15:12] apachelogger, was usplash not better then plymouth? [15:12] defines by what attribute you judge better :P [15:13] apachelogger, :). [15:13] s/defines by/depends by/ [15:13] apachelogger meant: "depends by what attribute you judge better :P" [15:13] or depends on [15:13] * apachelogger is confused now [15:13] StringString(apachelogger, log) [15:13] <3 [15:17] >start-pulseaudio-kde [15:17] Failure: Module initalisation failed [15:18] anyone else getting that? [15:18] Riddell: in xession? [15:18] Riddell, yes, same here. [15:18] s/xession/.xessoin-errors/ [15:18] apachelogger meant: "Riddell: in .xessoin-errors?" [15:18] more typos [15:19] Riddell, what does that mean, that pulseaudio does not work correctly? [15:20] it means that the kde hardware listing module could not be initialized [15:20] which is normal if you run that binary on an already initialized pulseaudio [15:20] hence my question if that appears in the .xsession-errors file or when you run it manually [15:20] apachelogger, okey. will take look. [15:20] if you run it manually that is obviously a true failure :P [15:21] you cannot initialize the module twice ^^ [15:24] apachelogger, no I have not. but this was weird: kded(1511): The kded module name ' "muon-notifier" ' is invalid! [15:25] !find muon-notifier.desktop [15:25] File muon-notifier.desktop found in muon-notifier [15:25] Ezim: do you have that package installed? [15:26] apachelogger, yes. [15:26] Ezim: yes pulseaudio breakage [15:26] :( to many breakage for me today. [15:31] hmm battery-widget should it not have performance etc in 4.8.0? [16:01] Riddell, when feature freeze takes effect? [16:02] rbelem: when skaet starts giving us evil stares which will be in about 5 hours [16:02] rbelem: what are you hoping to get in? [16:03] Riddell, startactive and declarative-plasmoids [16:03] :-) [16:05] Riddell, i will try to finish them in next hours [16:07] thanks rbelem [16:19] apachelogger: what's wrong here? http://paste.kde.org/423572/ [16:19] phonon 4.6 works fine, add phonon-gstreamer 4.6 and amarok gives me that [16:31] oh the file is in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_gstreamer.so but should be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/ [16:32] hum [16:32] rbelem, what does a feature freeze actually mean ? [16:32] look on the wiki [16:36] No search result found for ubuntu feature freeze , in the wiki search [16:36] nm , I'll do some more looking [16:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze [16:45] mikecb, yeah , thanks i managed to find it from my wiki.ubuntu bookmark [16:45] :D [16:46] I cheated, used the google. [16:51] I should know better anyway, mikecb ...these devs are obviously very busy today :) [16:52] meh, all these things are easy to know generally, but each project might have a very specific criteria or process. [17:08] rbelem: active artwork should be sorted for licencing, can you remake the package? [17:48] Riddell: no [17:48] apachelogger: no what? [17:48] Riddell: the qt4 stuff should symlink to kde4 [17:48] Riddell: also kde apps should search in kde4/plugins over qt4/plugins [17:49] so I guess something is off with kdelibs in precise [17:49] yes I guess something is off [17:50] Riddell, oki :-) [17:51] * apachelogger almost fell asleep again [17:52]