[00:22] <pandabaerle> hallo
[00:22] <zooom> How do I make the scroll wheel scroll farther in firefox?
[01:35] <kunguz> I am new to Linux Mint 12, how do I make the programs from last session run? I am using GNOME as desktop environment.
[01:55] <somnambulant> Hello I'd like to change the default/global screensaver settings for all users (using kubuntu as a terminal server)... and also so the users can't change the setting
[06:46] <orated> Hello! I'm finding delay in boot time and these are the bootcharts for last two booting - http://imagebin.org/199031 http://imagebin.org/199035 . I'm not too much concerned about boot time but can anyone explain me what exactly is consuming time and how can I fix it?
[10:30] <K350> What's the hotkey to send/recive mails in kmail?
[10:35] <Tm_T> K350: for Kmail it's ctrl+L
[10:41] <K350> Tm_T: Ahh, thanks a lot! :-)
[10:44] <Tm_T> K350: that is by default, as this is KDE you can change it
[10:49] <K350> Tm_T: Where do I see and change Kmail hotkeys?
[10:55] <Tm_T> K350: open kmail, and in menu, settings -> configure hotkeys
[11:11] <K350> Tm_T: Thanks a lot - again :-)
[12:09] <jameslord> hi all
[12:09] <jameslord> i have a question
[12:10] <TorpedoSkyline> Go for it, jameslor.
[12:10] <TorpedoSkyline> jameslord. sorry. ;P
[12:13] <jameslord> what is the command to connect wifi ?
[12:16] <TorpedoSkyline> It's more than one command, jameslord. Check out this page: http://colekcolek.com/2011/07/24/connecting-to-wifi-from-command-line-linux/
[12:20] <orated_> Hello! I'm getting error while update packages - http://imagebin.org/199194 . sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu.com/844148/. How can I fix it please?
[12:42] <LINKSWORD2> Good morning.
[12:46] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I'm trying to install a program I used to use called KShutdown.
[12:47] <LINKSWORD2> The command line to install it should be; "sudo apt-get install kshutdown" but it comes back with an error that says "E: Couldn't find package kshutdown"
[12:48] <LINKSWORD2> !kshutdown
[12:51] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: i am using it all the time
[12:51] <orated_> !info kshutdown
[12:51] <schnelle_> it is in repos
[12:52] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I can't get it to install.
[12:53] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: make sure you have universe repositorium turned on
[12:53] <LINKSWORD2> How?
[12:54] <schnelle_> go to muon package manager>settings>configure software sources
[12:55] <schnelle_> universe should be checked
[12:55] <schnelle_> and change server to main
[12:56] <LINKSWORD2> schnelle_: I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 because of the age of my system. My graphics card will not support Kubuntu 11 or newer.
[12:57] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: then that option is in kpackagekit
[12:58] <LINKSWORD2> What I don't understand is why kshutdown will not install through Konsole...
[12:59] <orated_> 'coz your software sources is not pointing it to the repository containing that package
[12:59] <LINKSWORD2> orated_: Can you help me find the appropriate repository line?
[12:59] <schnelle_> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:00] <schnelle_> look for lines where says "universe". if some line have # sign at begging, delete it
[13:01] <schnelle_> for example #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-security universe
[13:02] <schnelle_> you should delete #
[13:02] <orated_> LINKSWORD2:  As schnelle_ said, go to muon/kpackagekit and then check universe section under 'Ubuntu Software' or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:02] <schnelle_> then save changes, sudo apt-get update
[13:02] <schnelle_> sudo apt-get install kshutdown
[13:04] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: and what graphic card do you have? kubuntu 9.10 just suck compared to 11.10 or next 12.04
[13:04] <LINKSWORD2> Errors in the Konsole output. Will Pastebin if requested.
[13:04] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[13:04] <schnelle_> paste it
[13:06] <LINKSWORD2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844338
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:08] <schnelle_> hi BLuesKaj
[13:08] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: lot of errors. like you don't have internet connection
[13:08] <BluesKaj> hi schnelle_
[13:08] <LINKSWORD2> And yet, I'm on here...
[13:08] <LINKSWORD2> Hey BluesKaj
[13:08] <orated_> LINKSWORD2: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> hey LINKSWORD2
[13:09] <schnelle_> BluesKaj please help LINKSWORD2
[13:09] <LINKSWORD2> Haha. When the crap goes sideways, we all beg BluesKaj for help. lol
[13:09] <BluesKaj> 1ok , I'll try schnelle_ , LINKSWORD2  what's up ?
[13:10] <schnelle_> i have to leave soon
[13:10] <BluesKaj> ok schnelle_ np
[13:10] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844338
[13:11] <LINKSWORD2> This is subsequent to attempting to install kshutdown via Konsole "sudo apt-get install kshutdown" with error "E: Could not find package kshutdown"
[13:11] <orated_> LINKSWORD2: Before editing sources were there any such errors?
[13:12] <LINKSWORD2> Unknown. I haven't used this system in about 3 months.
[13:12] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: does kubuntu 9.10 have kpackagekit? you can try to switch from us server to main server. It is in settings tab, then click on "configure sources"
[13:13] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  which kubuntu version are you on ? I see karmic repos in the sources list ..don't think that's supported any longer
[13:13] <schnelle_> and i think kubuntu 9.10 is not supported anymor
[13:13] <schnelle_> :)
[13:13] <bazhang> !9.10
[13:14] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  yup , time to upgrade , if you want support
[13:14] <LINKSWORD2> I'm able to upgrade as far as 10.10. Unfortunately, my graphics card throws a hissy-fit with anything newer, such as 11.04.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  which graphics card ?
[13:15] <LINKSWORD2> I don't exactly know.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:15] <LINKSWORD2> I got it in a misc parts box in a computer store, and there was no label on the card or the anti-static bag it was in.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> run the above command LINKSWORD2
[13:16] <LINKSWORD2> Return: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV10DDR [GeForce 256 DDR] [10de:0101] (rev 10)
[13:18] <LINKSWORD2> If I would be running anything newer than 10.10, I'd have to have an appropriate driver package written for compatibility....
[13:18] <LINKSWORD2> !10.04
[13:19] <LINKSWORD2> I'll set the system up to upgrade to 10.04. That'll have to do for now.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  that card is pretty old , close to 10yrs I think
[13:20] <schnelle_> LINKSWORD2: try 11.10 or 12.04 liveCD
[13:20] <schnelle_> there is now opensorce driver for that old card i think
[13:20] <LINKSWORD2> schnelle_: Graphics card still throws a hissy-fit. Not a good idea.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> you might be better off just using the onboard video gpu on the mobo
[13:20] <schnelle_> did you try to boot 11.10?
[13:21] <LINKSWORD2> schnelle_: Yes.
[13:21] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: If I recall correctly, the onboard is dead.
[13:21] <schnelle_> pfffff
[13:22] <schnelle_> try papy linux :)
[13:23] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  bummer , i guess schnelle_ 's live cd suggestion might work , the new open source drivers are wider ranging in their support than ever
[13:23] <LINKSWORD2> I'm familiar with, and prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[13:23] <schnelle_> i am out of ideas... and time... have to learn now... see ya later
[13:23] <BluesKaj> bye schnelle_
[13:24] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: Would upgrading through the distro's from 10 to 11 via the repositories work?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> you have to go thru each release , without skipping any ..very time consuming
[13:25] <LINKSWORD2> I've got all the time in the world...
[13:25] <LINKSWORD2> The question I'm asking though, is would that driver work?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> unless you upgrade to 10.10 which is an LTS then you can upgrade to the next LTS directly ,12.04  which is in beta atm
[13:26] <BluesKaj> oops 10.04 to 12.04
[13:26] <bazhang> 10.10 is not an lts
[13:27] <LINKSWORD2> No, it's not. Even I remember that much. lol
[13:27] <BluesKaj> yeah bazhang , my mistake
[13:27] <LINKSWORD2> So... I could upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 directly?
[13:27] <bazhang> yep
[13:27] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:28] <LINKSWORD2> Would it be better to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, 11.04 & 11.10, then 12.04?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> no
[13:28] <LINKSWORD2> ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> 10.04 to 12.04 is better, fewer steps in between
[13:29] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: What command can I run to get the MOBO info?
[13:29] <bazhang> sudo lshw
[13:29] <orated_> lshw
[13:30] <BluesKaj> too much info , Id just go into the bios
[13:31] <LINKSWORD2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844369
[13:34] <LINKSWORD2> If I'm reading the first few lines correctly.... The system was manufactured in 03.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> yeah , pretty old max memory 1G
[13:35] <BluesKaj> P4 cpu
[13:36] <LINKSWORD2> Early P4 series, if I recall correctly.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  for what it's worth , my '06 Compaq amd 64 bit single struggles with 12.04 in some ways and it has 2G Ram
[13:39] <BluesKaj> single core
[13:39] <LINKSWORD2> Jeez..
[13:41] <BluesKaj> it's really bad on W7 . constantly running the fan to keeps itself with temp range ...I finally dumped W7 because it was so noisy
[13:41] <BluesKaj> I'll leave W7 to wife's pc
[13:41] <LINKSWORD2> WS7 is supposed to be lightweight....
[13:42] <LINKSWORD2> Heh. I thought that us Linux nerds could never get married. lol
[13:42] <BluesKaj> heh, well it's not with the new service pack
[13:43] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  I'm not particularly a nerd ...I also have other interests, but I'm retired so I have time to spend here on our long Canadian winters
[13:44] <LINKSWORD2> Dude. We play with Linux. It's a nerd thing. :P
[13:44] <BluesKaj> sez you :)
[13:44] <LINKSWORD2> Fine. What did you do before retirement?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2,  join us in #kubuntu-offtopic , we discuss offtopic stuff there
[13:59] <orated> Is there any mistake in this sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu.com/844148/ ?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> or  just at line 52 , remove the #
[14:00] <BluesKaj> orated, ^
[14:01] <orated> That's for canonical source, how is that required?
[14:10] <orated> BluesKaj: I noticed that checking ticking Canonical Partners (Source Code) uncommented the # from related line 52 . But usually how is source code required?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> well, when building a new version of an app , dpkg uses source code as well afaik , but you can comment it if you want , that's your choice
[14:18] <orated> BluesKaj: Yes, commenting that causes errors like -  http://imagebin.org/199
[14:19] <orated> r
[14:19] <orated> sec
[14:19] <orated> http://imagebin.org/199220
[14:20] <BluesKaj> orated,  then there's a package requiring the src to upgrade
[14:21] <orated> BluesKaj: Is there a way to find which package is depending on that?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> orated,  not sure
[14:24] <designbybeck> Hello BluesKaj
[14:24] <BluesKaj> hey designbybeck
[14:24] <orated> Ok. Secondly, do you know about bootchart? I get boot time of about 60s. Can you help me fix it using - http://imagebin.org/199031 http://imagebin.org/199035
[14:25] <designbybeck> I'm getting ready for our Texas Open Source Project - TexOS and I'm trying to make the USB Live Boot drives
[14:25] <designbybeck> but in the Startup Disk Creator, when I go to Erase Disk, it acaully starts repeating the listing over and over again
[14:25] <designbybeck> and doesn't do anything
[14:28] <orated> designbybeck: Yes, even I noticed that behavior in usb-creator-kde. Whenever it fails to erase it, I use partitionmanager/gparted to format the usb
[14:28] <designbybeck> but then every things else works after that orated?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  I have no clue , my experience with USB OS images is nil ...my pcs are too old to boot from USB drives
[14:29] <designbybeck> I've got 11 or so of these to burn
[14:32] <designbybeck> here is what it was doing orated http://www.pasteall.org/pic/26671
[14:32] <designbybeck> i had just one Verbatium drive plugged in, and wheenn i pressed Erase Disk, it kept duplicating it over and over
[14:32] <orated> Ah yes.. it worked after few attempts and its only dependent on the usb port you are using. I got only e-SATA working over USB3 slots here, depends on your system hardware
[14:33] <orated> Yes, same thing. I remember
[14:33] <designbybeck> hmmm, i don't know what slot that is on my laptop, i'll try another one
[14:34] <orated> If its about erasing, I would suggest you to format using partitionmanager/gparted instead of using Erase Disk option from usb creator
[14:34] <designbybeck> gotcha
[14:38] <orated> BluesKaj: Any help on above bootcharts? :)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> orated, looking
[14:44] <BluesKaj> orated,  and how long does bootup take ?
[14:45] <orated> As it said 58.90 s
[14:46] <BluesKaj> seems you loading a ntfs partition, and nfs file shares /exports , plus VM ware looks like it's looping a few times before it loads
[14:46] <orated> I'm not very much concerned about boot time usually but lately, I noticed taking more than normal
[14:47] <BluesKaj> a minute is along time
[14:47] <orated> Ah, yes. I saw that. But I'm not sure about fixing it
[14:47] <orated> I went to startup from system settings, but the services seemed right
[14:47] <orated> I commented the nfs, ntfs mounting from fstab
[14:47] <BluesKaj> me neither , i don't use Virtual OSs
[14:49] <BluesKaj> ntfs and nfs should load without any delay so I would uncomment them , i think the virtual OS is giving you the problem
[14:49] <BluesKaj> b ut that's as far as I can help
[14:50] <orated> Yes, thanks. I'll try that and find about virtual OS part
[14:52] <orated> Which particular vm service you noticed?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> which ones do you use ?
[14:53] <orated> No I meant to ask which service you found is related to vm. I use VMPlayer
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ok do you have vmpalyer loading ar startup as a daemon ?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> at startup
[14:58] <orated> No, I don't see any in service manager
[14:59] <orated> But what from bootchart made you say its related to virtual machine also? :)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> orated,  what about a startup script in autostart?
[15:00] <orated> There is only one script there set for Pre-KDE startup which is also not related to vm
[15:00] <BluesKaj> orated,  , because it's only thing i could see out of the ordinary , so naturally i suspected that
[15:01] <orated> Ah possibilities then. Ok, I'll try to figure it out if vm is causing it
[15:04] <BluesKaj> orated,  I tried VMware full install a few yrs agoand it really slowed things down , of course I was running XP in it , but I don't recall bootup as being particularly slow , only when i boot into VMware the pc slowed down to molasses in january
[15:05] <designbybeck> Hmmm the keystroke Alt+PrintScreen isn't supported by Qt
[15:05] <designbybeck> I'm trying to setup the custom screenshot for Shutter
[15:05] <orated> Its only Ptrscr key to open Ksnapshot designbybeck
[15:05] <designbybeck> But i wanted to change it to use Shutter
[15:05] <designbybeck> so I can do Alt+Printscreeen to do a selection
[15:06] <BluesKaj> yeah, my prtscn key no longer works here either
[15:06] <orated> You can set a delay of few seconds before freeze
[15:07] <orated> and then make a selection, if I got you right
[15:07] <designbybeck> have you ever used Shutter orated?
[15:07] <orated> yes
[15:07] <designbybeck> the kde one is nice as well, but in shutter you can go to the editor
[15:09] <Ezim> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/ms6hZ
[15:10] <Ezim> if you have problem with ptrscr
[15:10] <Ezim> mabe is unmarked for you
[15:10] <Ezim> or you can create one new there
[15:13] <designbybeck> i found a walk through for it: http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/01/integrating-shutter-with-kde-4-7/
[15:13] <designbybeck> i'm going to try this rout
[15:13] <designbybeck> route
[15:14] <Ezim> designbybeck, its easy you can create a keyboard shortcut
[15:14] <Ezim> designbybeck, have you shutter installed?
[15:15] <designbybeck> yes i have shutter installed
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  thanks , it's fixed :)
[15:15] <Ezim> you only need to change from ksnapshot to shutter here: http://imgur.com/gZjGy
[15:16] <Ezim> BluesKaj, np. :)
[15:16] <Ezim> BluesKaj, systemsettings :) kde/kubuntus best friend. :P
[15:17]  * BluesKaj wonders why the input prtscn was turned off by default
[15:17] <designbybeck> that is odd, MetaKey+ PrnScrn is supported by Qt but Alt_PrtScrn isn't
[15:17] <Ezim> BluesKaj, it was not here. running kubuntu 12.04?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  it was turned off after an upgrade on 12.04 , dunno how or why
[15:19] <Ezim> BluesKaj, file bug report. :)
[15:19] <designbybeck> hmmm
[15:19] <designbybeck> i looks like i have everything setup, but it isn't starting shutter and doing the correct command
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Ezim, well I have to be absolutely sure first
[15:21] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  try ksnapshot in the run command (alt+f2)
[15:21] <designbybeck> well yes that works BluesKaj
[15:22] <BluesKaj> then no need for all those gtk libs that come with shutter
[15:22] <designbybeck> but i wanted it for the editor/effects
[15:22] <designbybeck> Ksnapshot is nice though
[15:23] <designbybeck> i'll just use shutter when needed
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok , gotcha designbybeck
[15:23] <designbybeck> shutter has a global settings menu so that is nice too
[15:23] <designbybeck> in the systray
[15:24] <designbybeck> lol, i got on the screenshot tangent when i was trying to show my usb burning problem
[15:24] <designbybeck> ...now i gotta get back to the usb drives
[15:26] <BluesKaj> are you copying bootable OS iso images to usb sticks , designbybeck , or what method are you using ?
[15:26] <designbybeck> currect
[15:26] <designbybeck> using StartUp Disk Creator
[15:27] <BluesKaj> and they don't boot when you test them ?
[15:27] <designbybeck> instead of trying to click Erase Disk, i' just slected the ISO and told it to make
[15:27] <designbybeck> so it looks like it is going now, I'll see what comes of it
[15:27] <designbybeck> it was doing this BluesKaj http://www.pasteall.org/pic/26671
[15:28] <designbybeck> when i pressed Erase Disk, it started randomly duplicated the listing over and over and never did anything
[15:31] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  listing ?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  I have to ask , is the drive formatted to fat32 ?
[15:32] <designbybeck> might have been
[15:32] <designbybeck> i just opened it from the factory
[15:32] <BluesKaj> then it should accept the image
[15:33] <BluesKaj> no need to erase disk if it's empty
[15:33] <orated> designbybeck: Even for creating image its listing?
[15:33] <designbybeck> hmmmm
[15:35] <BluesKaj> of course the creator should make the stick bootable ..I hope :P
[15:36] <designbybeck> yes It looks like that first stick is working
[15:36] <orated> yes but it creates duplicate entry or lists sdb1 and then sdb again and again during erase disk and startup disk creation
[15:36] <designbybeck> about 10 more to go ;)
[15:36] <designbybeck> took about 5mins or so
[15:37] <designbybeck> i just skipped the ears disk and let it do its own thing
[15:37] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  check that stick will boot the image
[15:37] <designbybeck> just did
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ok , and ?
[15:38] <designbybeck> it booted
[15:38] <designbybeck> it is at the try/install screen
[15:39] <designbybeck> i clicked try, and it is spinnin'....seems to be taking longer than normal
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I'm curious due to one of my bandn=mates new interst in Linux ...
[15:39] <designbybeck> there it goes
[15:39] <BluesKaj> cool
[15:39] <orated> great
[15:39] <designbybeck> these are older Dell desktops we'll be using for TexOS starting Sat.
[15:40] <designbybeck> and they are random specs and such
[15:40] <BluesKaj> will they boot from a USB ?
[15:40] <designbybeck> yes
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:40] <designbybeck> they are about 5 years old
[15:40] <designbybeck> 3-5years old
[15:40] <designbybeck> but i do have one that is pretty old that doesn't seem to boot from USB, but it will not be used for this project
[15:40] <BluesKaj> strange , this pc is only 4 yrs old , there's no uSB boot option the BIOS
[15:41] <BluesKaj> in
[15:41] <designbybeck> what kinda PC?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> HP amd 64 dual core
[15:41] <designbybeck> oh that is odd
[15:42] <BluesKaj> well, it's pretty close to entry level , even back in 2007
[15:46] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[15:52] <BluesKaj> odd , still have floppy group listed in the bios , but there's no floppy drive on this pc
[15:52] <designbybeck> hmmm
[15:52] <designbybeck> have you tried flashin'g/upgrading the bios?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  no , I haven't
[15:57] <BluesKaj> the bios was flashed/updated in Mar 2008 according to lshw , i bought this pc in nov 2007 ...this is very strange
[15:57] <BluesKaj> and I don't recall ever flashing the bios on this pc ...ever
[15:58] <designbybeck> hmm
[15:59] <BluesKaj> unless my memory is failing me
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I promptly reformatted to ext2  and installed kubuntu 7.10 which was new then ...it ran beatuifully
[16:14]  * BluesKaj looks at plpbtnoemul.iso
[16:41] <designbybeck> seeing how I'm new to Kubuntu, thought i'd through this out there if you haven't seen it: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4533
[16:53] <CaptainLexington> Hey guys, I have a question about using Canonical-trusted software in Kubuntu.
[16:54] <email> hi
[16:54] <CaptainLexington> I installed Frotz Z-machine via apt-get in the terminal, and I know it worked, because I can run it from the terminal
[16:54] <CaptainLexington> but I can't find it anywhere in the program menu
[16:55] <CaptainLexington> nor does the Muon package manager believe it to be installed
[16:55] <caius_> hi all
[16:55] <designbybeck> hello caius_
[16:55] <caius_> i have a problem with the package manager
[16:56] <caius_> i have made an update of flash today in the morning and muon package manager crashed at 60% of the update
[16:56] <designbybeck> i'm new to Kubuntu caius_ not sure I have an answer for that
[16:58] <caius_> i turned off kubuntu and restarted and tried to uninstall flash plugin manually. since then i get a notificaion that i can not use the package manager because anotherone is already running
[16:59] <caius_> how can i turn of the packagemanager that is running in the background?
[17:03] <caius_> no problem designbybeck
[17:03] <caius_> hope to get some suggestions
[17:03] <CaptainLexington> Well in normal Ubuntu I'd just use the Process Manager, find the process and kill
[17:04] <CaptainLexington> there are also terminal means to do this
[17:04] <CaptainLexington> with which I am unfamiliar
[17:04] <CaptainLexington> I'm also not sure how the Kubuntu process manager works
[17:07] <yofel> caius_: ctrl+esc will open the process manager in kde
[17:07] <yofel> there check if apt, dpkg or qaptworker is running
[17:07] <BluesKaj> caius_, are you referring to the package notifier
[17:07] <caius_> no
[17:07] <caius_> the package manager
[17:10] <asfyxia> caius: in the terminal (Konsole) run: sudo configure --a
[17:11] <yofel> that would be sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:11] <yofel> if that's what the problem is
[17:11] <asfyxia> you're right; sorry
[17:12] <caius_> i have checked all the programms that are now running on my machine
[17:12] <caius_> and there is none of the apt,dpkg or qaptworker  running
[17:15] <Ezim> Philip5, welcome :).
[17:19] <caius_> yofel: i tried that comandline you wrote. system says that the command is not found
[17:19] <yofel> wich one?
[17:19] <yofel> *which
[17:20] <caius_> sudo dpkg--configure--a
[17:20] <EvilResistance> caius_:  sudo dpkg --configure --a
[17:20] <EvilResistance> try putting the space in there
[17:20] <EvilResistance> i think...
[17:20]  * EvilResistance checks dpkg
[17:21] <EvilResistance> yeah, that'd probably be it
[17:21] <caius_> nope, no results
[17:21] <EvilResistance> caius_:  remember there are spaces in there ;P
[17:22] <EvilResistance> ah you got that :P
[17:23] <qw-Russian> help me
[17:23] <qw-Russian> I tried to set Access through a cantilever and the program hung up began to be knocked out very much many errors 35 i would like killed this procced
[17:25] <yofel> caius_: ok, so dpkg isn't broken, good
[17:26] <yofel> caius_: did you see any apt process in the process manager?
[17:26] <caius_> no apt process
[17:26] <yofel> and it still complains?
[17:28] <caius_> it still complains
[17:29] <yofel> caius_: can you try this:
[17:29] <yofel> !aptlock
[17:30] <caius_> flashplugin installed
[17:30]  * yofel reads backlog
[17:31] <yofel> caius_: can you try: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:32] <caius_> i installed flash
[17:33] <yofel> caius_: I've read that
[17:33] <designbybeck> is it working for you caius_ what was the solution you ended up going with?
[17:33] <caius_> one moment please
[17:36] <caius_> i will restart and give feedback
[17:42] <yofel> caius_: any improvement?
[17:42] <caius_> it seems that flash is still not working
[17:43] <caius_> neither on firefox,opera,and chrome
[17:43] <yofel> caius_: was it actually installed?
[17:43] <yofel> might not be the case if it crashed midway
[17:43] <caius_> yes
[17:43] <caius_> it was installed
[17:44] <caius_> i am installing it now once again
[17:45] <caius_> i installed the flash plugin 10
[17:45] <caius_> and adobe flash
[17:46] <caius_> and its still not working
[17:46] <Ezim> caius_, try flashaid.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> caius_,  which kubuntu version ?
[17:46] <caius_> 11.10
[17:47] <yofel> caius_: can you tell me what this tells you: ls -la /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[17:47] <Ezim> caesar_, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[17:48] <caesar_> Ezim: i don't use FF
[17:48] <Ezim> caesar_, okey. chrome should come with flash from start.
[17:48] <caius_> yofel : should i type it in ff?
[17:49] <caesar_> Ezim: try cai+tab
[17:49] <yofel> caius_: no, in konsole
[17:50] <caius_> yofel this is what i get: WS830EA-ABD:~$  ls -la /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[17:50] <caius_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2012-02-18 10:30 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin -> /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so
[17:50] <BluesKaj> caius_, libflashplayer.so should be listed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ..the best method is to download flash from adobe , extract the file , copy the libflashplayer.so to the path i mentioned
[17:50] <yofel> caius_: ouch, uninstall gnash
[17:50] <yofel> that's a rather non-working type of flash plugin :(
[17:51] <yofel> BluesKaj: installing from partner is easier, and gives you updates
[17:51] <yofel> his problem is that he has gnash installed though
[17:51] <caius_> yofel: i have uninstalled gnash
[17:52] <yofel> caius_: ok, try again
[17:52] <yofel> (using flash in firefox)
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I had klash installed which uses gnash , and had no problems , the problem is the flashplugin or wrapper if he's using 64 bit
[17:52] <caius_> i use 64 bit
[17:52]  * yofel never got gnash to work in a sane way
[17:53] <caius_> yofel: its not working
[17:53] <yofel> caius_: can you tell me what the ls command tells you now?
[17:54] <caius_> yofel: ls -la /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[17:54] <caius_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2012-02-18 10:30 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin -> /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so
[17:54] <yofel> caius_: run: sudo apt-get remove browser-plugin-gnash
[17:54] <yofel> and try again
[17:54] <BluesKaj> then caius_ , then try the method I posted above , and yofel that method was recommended by the ppl at ubuntu+1 when they were having flash pligin problems
[17:55] <yofel> well, back then we had no packaged flash for 64bit
[17:56] <BluesKaj> I still don't trust the packaged method ...I don't get any audio on flash sites with the packaged method
[17:57] <yofel> hm, works for me
[17:57] <caius_> yofel,blueskaj: i tried again , and i get the notification the latest flash version is requiered to view videos
[17:57] <yofel> but yeah, sound in flash is tricky
[17:57] <BluesKaj> could be my soundcard probs with alsa too
[17:58] <yofel> caius_: now install 'adobe-flashplugin' if it's there
[17:58] <ryzzan> anyone can help me installing sun-java6 on ubuntu?
[17:58] <yofel> ryzzan: was removed, either use openjdk or install java from the oracle website
[17:58] <caius_> yofel : i download it directly from adobe
[17:58] <BluesKaj> caius_,  did you place the libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[17:59] <caius_> BluesKaj:  i did not
[18:00] <caius_> youtube videos are also flash isnt`it?
[18:00]  * yofel leaves this to BluesKaj
[18:00] <MAMOHT> Hi guys. I have a problem with battery monitor: "Battery: not present "
[18:00] <yofel> ryzzan: see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[18:01] <ryzzan> ty
[18:02] <yofel> MAMOHT: can you open konsole and run 'upower --dump'? does that show any battery statistics?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> caius_,  also try placing it in  /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/ , or make sure it's there
[18:03] <BluesKaj> yes regular youtube video is flash
[18:03] <caius_> Eureka!!!! It`s working
[18:03] <MAMOHT> Yes
[18:03] <yofel> hm
[18:03] <MAMOHT> paste here?
[18:03] <yofel> no
[18:03] <yofel> !paste
[18:04] <caius_> Thanks Yofel, Thanks BluesKaj!!!
[18:04] <MAMOHT> !paste
[18:04] <BluesKaj> caius_,  so what did you do so we can help others that have the same problem ?
[18:05] <MAMOHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844720/
[18:06] <yofel> that looks fine, so there shouldn't be a reason why the applet doesn't show it o.O
[18:06] <yofel> which kubuntu and which kde release?
[18:07] <caius_> i typed in the line in terminal: ls -la /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[18:07] <MAMOHT> 4.7
[18:07] <MAMOHT> kubuntu 11.10
[18:07] <MAMOHT> I can paste screenshot
[18:08] <caius_> then i uninstalled gnash
[18:08] <caius_> and installed flash and flashplugin from adobe
[18:09] <MAMOHT> a few days ago everything was fine
[18:09] <caius_> but i think the main problem was that i had 2 package manager running at the same time , and did not know how to end one of them
[18:11] <caius_> to solve this problem i typed in terminal : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:11] <caius_> and it worked
[18:12] <BluesKaj> yes , that's the dpkg lock when you have more than one package manager open, which includes the terminal
[18:12] <caius_> exactly
[18:13] <caius_> after that i could uninstall gnash and install flash
[18:14]  * BluesKaj prefers apt-get to muon or apper , or even syanptic , altho synaptic is a good reference for package info
[18:15] <TorpedoSkyline> BluesKaj: is there a GUI to apt-get? Or are you just typing it out on konsole?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> heh, i don't have flashplugin in /etc/alternatives
[18:17] <BluesKaj> TorpedoSkyline,  well typing yes, but I'm lazy so i use a combo of alsiases and no pwd in the sudoers file so my sudo apt-get update etc consists of 2 letters like ud in the terminal
[18:18] <BluesKaj> alisas are set in ~/.bashrc
[18:18] <TorpedoSkyline> BluesKaj: lol. =P
[18:21] <BluesKaj> TorpedoSkyline,  in ~/.bashrc one types for example , alias ud='sudo apt-get update'
[18:26] <BluesKaj> to whom it may concern , aliases , http://bashscripts.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=174
[18:33] <TorpedoSkyline> BluesKaj: that's actually quite a good tip. Especially if you have long commands you have to type regularly.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> TorpedoSkyline,  yes, very handy
[18:36] <newkuser> New Kubuntu user here.. Tried playing an mp3 file, amarok is asking me to install codecs everytime. doesn't play the file at all
[18:36] <newkuser> should i install something else manually
[18:37] <TorpedoSkyline> newkuser: open konsole.
[18:37] <TorpedoSkyline> newkuser: type in
[18:37] <TorpedoSkyline> newkuser: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:38] <newkuser> I'm installing restricted extras now.. its taking some time
[18:38] <TorpedoSkyline> Ok good. It'll work then. Sorry about all those lines people. brb
[18:39] <newkuser> TorpedoSkyline: Thanks
[18:39] <srajan> hi there
[18:40] <srajan> anyone here ??
[18:47] <maximuszerus> hee leute que tal
[19:07] <pangolin> Recommendations on an app that will popup reminders?
[19:08] <pangolin> kalarm!
[19:36] <Avihay> finally decided to settle the score and disable nepomuk, now I need to figure out how to deal with Jovie
[19:38] <pangolin> Why am I unable to delete /home/username/Downloads/hanbrake ?
[19:40] <TorpedoSkyline> pangolin: what's the error?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  so you removed it using dplg -r ?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> err dpkg
[19:40] <pangolin> unable to delete /home/username/.local/share/trash/files/filename_here
[19:41] <pangolin> Trash not trash
[19:41] <pangolin> BluesKaj: not that i remember
[19:41] <BluesKaj>  pangolin how did you install it ?
[19:42] <pangolin> I didn't. I simply tried deleting it, thought it was gone but now I see it is still in the Trash
[19:45] <BluesKaj> rm -rf pathtofile
[19:45] <pangolin> it's a directory
[19:45] <BluesKaj> restore it first then rm -rf pathtodir/file/whatever
[19:46] <pangolin> ok.
[19:47] <pangolin> get a very long list of permission denied, tried with sudo and it is gone
[19:47] <pangolin> thanks for the help
[19:47] <pangolin> :)
[19:47] <BluesKaj> yeah , sudo is implied with removals
[19:48] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  np :)
[19:50] <plotino> hello everybody
[19:50] <plotino> i have a question about transformers
[19:50] <plotino> it's possible to check a TF withoud loading the secondary?
[19:50] <plotino> i try to explain better
[19:51] <TorpedoSkyline> wait plotino... what?
[19:55] <kossakov> hi there, i gotta question, not particulary kubuntu nature, but dont know where to go ;)
[19:55] <kossakov> thing is i can't in no way get to any hdd
[19:55] <kossakov> fdisk -l show's nothing
[19:55] <kossakov> gparted finds no device
[19:56] <kossakov> what can i do to at least whipe disk or sth
[19:57] <BluesKaj> plotino,  secondary winding in a transformer , that's question for an electronics/electrical chat
[19:58] <BluesKaj> kossakov,  is gparted on a livecd ?
[19:58] <Pici> ##electronics
[19:58] <kossakov> no, apt-get'ed it
[19:59] <kossakov> but yes, i run on livecd
[20:00] <BluesKaj> kossakov,  what was/is on the hdd ?
[20:03] <kossakov> don't really know, not my stuff ;)
[20:03] <kossakov> forgot to check if bios sees disk, my bad...
[20:03] <BluesKaj> kossakov,  mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive
[20:05] <kossakov> /path/to/drive like /dev/sda?
[20:05] <kossakov> or rather like /mnt
[20:07] <BluesKaj>  /dev/sda , kossakov
[20:07] <kossakov> because mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda  says that it's not in /etc/mtab
[20:07] <BluesKaj> sad1 or 2 etc
[20:07] <BluesKaj> sda
[20:08] <kossakov> point is, there is nothing more of sd* in /dev
[20:08] <icewaterman> hi, any idea how to get rid of krfb service?
[20:08] <icewaterman> i want to disable it for security reasons (i do not need it)
[20:08] <icewaterman> cant uninstall it though, as it will take kdenetwork down with it
[20:09] <BluesKaj> icewaterman,  you should be able to uninstall krfb
[20:10] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/iLWgNPMk doesnt look good
[20:13] <BluesKaj> icewaterman,  yeah , not so good
[20:13] <icewaterman> but there must be a way to disable it
[20:15] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: there is a config file named .kde/share/config/krfbrc
[20:15] <icewaterman> however i dunno what options besides the ones already in there i can set
[20:16] <BluesKaj> icewaterman,  is it listed as running in system monitor ? if so you should be able to disable it in system settings>startup & shutdown>session management , applications to be excluded , type kfrb in the dialog box
[20:18] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: unfortunately its not
[20:20] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: ah, found a way
[20:20] <icewaterman> just killing it once seems to work, probably because the reason for it getting started was it being started sometime when i logged out
[20:22] <BluesKaj> icewaterman,  add it to session management exclusion anyway . it might work
[20:22] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i now always start with a new session
[20:22] <icewaterman> its better this way
[20:24] <mterry> Hello!  I'm working on getting the kde-telepathy stack into Ubuntu.  Can the stack can work OK without kde-telepathy-auth-handler installed?
[20:24] <mterry> Ooh, I should ask on #kubuntu-devel
[20:24]  * mterry moves
[20:31] <TorpedoSkyline> anyone know of a good character map for kde?
[21:12] <iulia> r
[21:24] <unknown__> hello
[21:24] <Slike> hi, I'm having some sound problems: when I play music with Amarok it gets disturbed when doing things like moving windows, switching desktops, removing files, ...
[21:24] <Slike> is there anything I can do about this?
[21:26] <TorpedoSkyline> Sounds like a driver issue, Slike... =\
[21:28] <Slike> TorpedoSkyline: possible, but it's a kde-only problem
[21:29] <Slike> I was thinking about Phonon or anything alike?
[21:29] <TorpedoSkyline> Slike: It never did it on Ubuntu?
[21:30] <unknown__>  /msg NickServ help
[21:30] <soee> anyone tried to upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 already ?
[21:31] <Slike> TorpedoSkyline: nope, or it must have been undetectable ;)
[21:32] <TorpedoSkyline> Slike: I would join #kde if you think it's phonon
[21:32] <EvilResistance> soee:  nope, because 12.04 isnt anywhere near stable
[21:32] <EvilResistance> and shouldnt be used as a production environment
[21:33] <EvilResistance> that'd be like upgrading from Debian 6 to Debian sid... it breaks everything
[21:33] <soee> EvilResistance, i can deal with problmes its not problem for me, just wonder if someone already did it
[21:33] <soee> also last time i asked Riddell, he said it works for him good :)
[21:34] <Slike> TorpedoSkyline: ok, thanks... someone @amarok thinks it has something to do with the fact that I read those files from a ntfs volume
[21:34] <TorpedoSkyline> Slike: hmm... I kind of doubt it, but it might be possible.
[21:34] <TorpedoSkyline> Slike: Did you try copying it over to your hd?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> soee,  lots of us have , checkout #ubuntu+1
[21:35] <TorpedoSkyline> I hate this Mac keyboard... *facepalm*
[21:36] <soee> BluesKaj, yeah im there
[21:36] <Slike> TorpedoSkyline: not yet, but I don't see anything suspicious when I look at top or the kde system monitor
[21:37] <Slike> I've got a couple of ideas to try and see what they can do :)
[21:37] <Slike> thanks anyway, TorpedoSkyline
[21:37] <TorpedoSkyline> no prob Slike. Sorry I'm not the expert I wish I was. =\
[21:40] <BluesKaj> Slike,  have you tried vlc rather than amarok , it's setup for server retrievals
[21:45] <Slike> BluesKaj: no I didn't
[22:07] <lil_girl> h
[22:07] <lil_girl> heyy
[22:10] <lil_girl> g
[23:12] <Aelingil> Where can i find the KDE Gui for Ubuntu? Instead of using Gnome or Unity i wanted to use Kde on of of my systems.
[23:14] <Ezim> Aelingil, you mean kubuntu metapack? search for kubuntu-desktop.
[23:15] <Ezim> install it and log out. choose kubuntu on login.
[23:16] <Aelingil> yeah, sorry i dont know why i didnt say that.. it has been a long day.. When i was searching i was looking for "kubuntu" and it was not showing up anywhere. putting -desktop found it. Thank you.
[23:16] <Ezim> Aelingil, np.