[00:02] <eightyeight> has the kernel been frozen for 12.04?
[00:03] <eightyeight> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/all-ubuntu-12.04.html seems to suggest so, but i can't be 100% sure
[00:03] <eightyeight> i need something that points one way or the other
[00:06] <kklimonda> eightyeight: kernel configuration is frozen
[00:08] <kklimonda> (unless there are bugs that require them to change something)
[00:45] <h00k> I'm still having libc6 issues I can't seem to fix. I'd rather not reinstall :(
[00:46] <h00k> my package-management-foo isn't strong enough
[00:47] <h00k> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843805/
[00:51] <h00k> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/843806/ I don't know if I want to do this
[00:55] <robin0800> h00k, I would not do that
[00:55] <h00k> robin0800: probably not.
[00:55] <h00k> robin0800: it says it wants to upgrade them, then it says it wants to remove a ton.
[00:55] <h00k> 468 of them, in fact.
[00:57] <robin0800> h00k, I have read that aptitude is broken in 12.04 might be best not to use it
[00:58] <h00k> robin0800: yeah. I can't do anything much with apt-get, either.
[00:58] <h00k> I can't install anything or remove anything.
[00:58] <h00k> I'd rather not reinstall,
[00:59] <robin0800> h00k, try the update manager or synaptic
[01:01] <Daekdroom> aptitude is unable to handle conflicts related to multiarch, unfortunately.
[01:02] <Daekdroom> Which is why it wants to remove everything
[01:02] <h00k> Oh, so...update manager may be actually grabbing the updates.
[01:02] <h00k> and only wants to remove 3 packages.
[01:03] <h00k> O.O if this works, I'm baffled. and happy.
[01:03] <Daekdroom> update-manager pulling something that couldn't be done in CLI is quite surprising indeed.
[01:04] <Daekdroom> *pulling off
[01:05] <robin0800> Daekdroom, is there a plan to fix aptitude?
[01:06] <Daekdroom> bug 831768
[01:07] <Daekdroom> It wasn't assigned to anyone yet.
[01:59] <astraljava> apt-get works with multiarch, I'm not sure whether aptitude does in Debian, even, yet.
[03:13] <h00k> doho, now I have a broken lightdm
[03:13] <h00k> restarting was a bad idea.
[03:17] <h00k> lightdm isbroken, apt-get -f install cannot fix it
[03:17] <h00k> update-manager cannot
[03:18] <micahg> h00k: what's specifically broken?
[03:18] <h00k> micahg: libc6
[03:18] <micahg> ugh :(, any chance for a pastebin of the issue?
[03:19] <micahg> last upload was 6 days ago...
[03:19] <h00k> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843921/
[03:20] <h00k> micahg: it's been broken for tha tlong :(
[03:20] <h00k> now I did update-manger that did half of packages
[03:20] <micahg> is that an upgrade or a dist-upgrade?
[03:20] <h00k> the last like that didn't pastebin is: E:Internal Error: no file name for libc6
[03:21] <h00k> micahg: that was an apt-get install -f
[03:21] <h00k> let me pastebinit a dist-upgrade
[03:21] <h00k> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843922/
[03:22] <h00k> last line is: unmet dependencies, try using -f
[03:23] <h00k> I've just about given up. Downloading daily, will be done in approx. 4 hours on these internets.
[03:24] <micahg> h00k: did you have a partial upgrade?
[03:24] <h00k> micahg: yep
[03:25] <h00k> when I update-manager'd today. I hadn't tried it in 6 days, was only trying with apt-get.
[03:25] <micahg> apt-get -f install didn't fix it?
[03:25] <h00k> negative. says it needs to download packages, then E: Internal Error: no file name for libc6
[03:27] <micahg> well, if you grab the i386 libc6 and libpam-modules-bin(= 1.1.3-7ubuntu1), you should be most of the way fixed
[03:27] <micahg> just libc6 might be enough to fix it
[03:29] <h00k> I can try to wget/dpkg -i them
[03:31] <h00k> micahg: I think they're in my apt cache
[03:38] <h00k> micahg: working on it, turns out iI need libgcc1 too
[03:44] <h00k> It depends on multiarch-support, which isn't apparently configured
[03:45] <h00k> working on that.
[03:53] <h00k> seriously, this sucks
[03:56] <micahg> yeah, you don't want to power off in the middle of a libc update
[03:58] <h00k> I didn't :(
[03:59] <h00k> libc6 is depending on multiarch-support, which is a circular dependence on libc6?
[03:59] <h00k> and libgcc1 is in the middle of those.
[04:00] <h00k> Oh, progress!
[04:01] <micahg> h00k: wait, apt-get -f install didn't fix it?
[04:04] <h00k> nhaines: no. I grabbed the debs with wget, and just did: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[04:05] <h00k> micahg: ^
[04:08] <micahg> ok
[04:10] <h00k> micahg: I'm having myself grab a bunch of .debs and dpkg -i'ng them as they require them.  For instance, libstdc++6, libapt-4.12, etc
[04:15] <h00k> oh no.
[04:15] <h00k> suddenly I don't have sudo
[04:15] <h00k> or ls
[04:17] <micahg> recovery console should give you a root shell
[04:19] <micahg> h00k: I'd try apt-get -f install and see if that fails still
[04:20] <h00k> micahg: yeah, I've been doing that. Something fails, requires something, I've been manually getting that, installing it, making progress.
[04:20] <micahg> cool
[04:20] <micahg> just keep an eye on what it offers to do
[04:20] <h00k> yeah, and the last thing left me with no sudo.
[04:21] <h00k> libssl1.0.0
[04:21] <micahg> oh, that doesn't sound good
[04:21] <h00k> or any command, rather ;)
[04:21] <h00k> recovery mode kernel panicked
[04:22] <micahg> how long since you upgraded?
[04:22] <h00k> 6 days since I couldn't,
[04:22] <h00k> because I've been having libc6 issues.
[04:23] <h00k> I haven't had time dedicated to working on this
[04:23] <h00k> yeah. I may concede to a reinstall.
[04:24] <h00k> no boot.
[04:24] <h00k> micahg: thanks for letting me bounce things off, anyway.
[04:25] <micahg> h00k: sorry, I'm not too familiar with kernel recovery, but you could try an older kernel to see if it still boots
[04:26] <h00k> they panic :)
[04:38] <DanaG> hmm, lots of things blocking on g++-4.6.
[04:38] <DanaG> And I can't report a crash in unity-2d-panel because I have out-of-date g++-4.6.
[04:41] <DanaG> correction: the bug report is blocked due to: gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libstdc++6.
[04:43] <DanaG> thankfully, this is on my server, which is primarily used headlessly for torrents.
[04:57] <h00k> I just wish this weird touchpad issues goes away
[04:58] <h00k> where you move it, and hold your finger, and it keeps moving
[05:02] <DanaG> oh, somehow I lost my ubuntu-desktop.  No wonder.
[05:02] <DanaG> though, I was hoping to get unity session with minimal actual applications.
[05:02] <h00k> That'll do it
[05:03] <micahg> DanaG: might be arch skew a new version was recently uploaded
[05:04] <DanaG> ah, I just need to install without recommends.
[05:04] <DanaG> Wish somebody would make aptitude able to handle multiarch.
[05:04] <DanaG> Had to purge all i386 libs to get aptitude not to freak out.
[05:12] <DanaG> cool, reinstalling ubuntu-desktop fixed the crash.
[05:12] <DanaG> though, I seem to still have the old unity.
[05:28] <DanaG> so, where's this new unity?
[08:15] <gotwig> I have problems with dependencies when upgrading, help pls : http://paste.ubuntu.com/844088/
[08:17] <cemc> hi. can I disable that email/IM indicator in 12.04?
[08:19] <gotwig> cemc: doesnt seem so
[08:19] <gotwig> not on the traditional way
[08:20] <urfr332g0> gotwig, you mean updating?
[08:20] <gotwig> gotwig: yes
[08:20] <gotwig> urfr332g0: dist-upgrade
[08:21] <urfr332g0> gotwig, actually use the update manager and look for a partial upgrade and don't run it.
[08:21] <gotwig> what you mean
[08:21] <gotwig> dont run it?
[08:22] <urfr332g0> gotwig, partial upgrades are known to break wait for the packages to get to the repos.
[08:27] <cemc> gotwig: is there a non-traditional way? I'll take it ;)
[08:30] <gotwig> cemc: maybe with dconf-editor
[08:37] <gotwig> cemc: you can uninstall it, lol
[08:37] <gotwig> :P
[08:44] <gotwig> mhall119: I already have all the data I need, now I only have to filter it, for my recipefy scope
[08:44] <gotwig> mhall119: in one output I have the data
[08:45] <gotwig> mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844105/
[08:47] <cemc> gotwig: I would. what's the name of the package?
[08:47] <gotwig> cemc: wait for it. and sry that that is not a good solution
[08:48] <gotwig> cemc: would you be interessted in a cooking lens, the 1337 style :D?
[08:49] <gotwig> package name is indicator-messages
[08:54] <cemc> gotwig: thanks, I'll give it a try
[08:54] <gotwig> cemc: dont break your system ;Ü!
[09:03] <aBound> Hello all, those who are using Alpha 2 of 12.04 LTS have you experienced any Compiz crashes. As such are you able to use Compiz without much conflict?
[09:04] <gotwig> aBound: works here not bad
[09:04] <aBound> gotwig, Able to use the desktop cube and rotate cube?
[09:05] <maccam94> anyone know why dist-upgrade wants to remove a ton of :i386 packages?
[09:06] <gotwig> aBound: did that ever work with unity
[09:06] <gotwig> aBound: so no
[09:06] <gotwig> *normal*
[09:06] <gotwig> maccam94: here is the same problem
[09:06] <maccam94> i'm guessing the gcc packagers broke something
[09:07] <gotwig> maccam94: 12.04 should officialy become the first version in which 64 bit is recommended, I think the i386 packages are unnecessary, couse you still have the 64 bit one
[09:07] <gotwig> s
[09:07] <gotwig> maccam94: yeah
[09:07] <maccam94> it also wants to remove wine and skype though
[09:07] <aBound> gotwig, Dang still hasn't been fixed. Hopefully it's fixed in the final release.
[09:07] <maccam94> the i386 packages are supposed to be for compatibility
[09:07] <gotwig> maccam94: there is no real 64 bit skype out there
[09:07] <gotwig> the wine problem, I dont know
[09:22] <huayra> 2eyb6ard 5s n6t w6r25ng
[09:22] <huayra> aaaaa
[09:25] <huayra> N40 36c2 by defa43t
[09:25] <huayra> ??!!!
[09:34] <gotwig> huayra: o.0?
[09:35] <huayra> 0y 2eyb6ard has scr32 by defa43t
[09:35] <huayra> and  cann6t wr5te
[09:35] <Ben64> what
[09:35] <huayra> TH5S REA3Y S4C2S
[09:36] <huayra> s6rry ca*s
[09:37]  * gotwig is not happy
[09:37] <huayra> ne5ther a0 5
[09:37] <huayra> n6 2eyb6ard
[09:37] <huayra> !!
[09:37] <Ben64> type this...
[09:38] <huayra> ty*e th5s,,,
[09:38] <Ben64> "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"
[09:38] <huayra> "the q45c2 br6wn f6x 140*s 6ver the 3azy d6g"
[09:38] <huayra> scr32 cann6t be deact5vated
[09:38] <huayra> oh wait
[09:38] <huayra> this is only with my external keyboard...
[09:38] <Ben64> scrlk?
[09:39] <Ben64> what does scroll lock have to do with that
[09:39] <huayra> I deattached now and I can tap on my laptop keyboard
[09:39] <huayra> NumLock
[09:39] <huayra> sorry I was reading the key worng
[09:39] <Ben64> weird
[09:39] <huayra> the *r6b3e0 5s 6n3y 6n 0y externa3 2eyb6ard
[09:40] <huayra> it worked yesterday (and it's all Thinkpad gear...)
[09:40] <huayra> NumLock is not deactivated on my external keyboard
[09:40] <huayra> even 5f 5t w6r2s 6n 0y 3a*t6*
[09:41] <huayra> I updated yesterday and I am testing the unity 5.4 repo
[09:41] <huayra> but still...
[09:41] <huayra> it worked yesterday befor ei left the office...
[09:42] <huayra> let me test the keyboard in another computer
[09:43] <huayra> works on a machine with 11.10
[09:43] <huayra> as 5t sh643d w5th *rec5ser
[09:43] <huayra> how do I fill this bug?
[09:44] <huayra> External USB lenove Keyboard  model SK-8855cannot deactivate NumLock (and it is on by default)
[11:35] <vortex> Guys anyone else having strange errors with the software center ? gives some error , but software installs correctly and with no problems ? Isn't that a bit strange?
[12:03] <snadge> err crap
[12:03] <snadge> ldd isnt working with 32bit executables.. and i get "no such file or directory" when trying to run them
[12:07] <snadge> i must've lost some :i386 stuff.. but i dont know how multi-arch works :(
[12:12] <geser> if ldd doesn't work, check if you still have libc6:i386 installed
[12:13] <snadge>  libc6:i386 : Depends: libgcc1:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[12:13] <snadge> oops :/
[12:13] <snadge> yeah i was about to install libc-bin:i386.. but thankfully apt pointed out that would be a REALLY bad idea
[12:15] <snadge> ive been having issues with precise mirrors lately not being up to date
[12:16] <snadge> ive switched to one which i thought was more current.. but im not surewhy libgcc1:i386 cant be installed
[12:17] <geser> I don't know either (I still don't fully understand how the Depends work for multi-arch packages)
[12:17] <snadge> when i try to manually install libgcc1:i386
[12:17] <snadge> i get a pageful of errors that seem to be relating to java
[12:18] <snadge> maybe i should switch to us mirror ?
[12:21] <Stanley00> snadge: yep, I think main mirror is the best
[12:25] <snadge> this is the first time i've had issues with using mirrors in a long time
[12:26] <snadge> australian mirrors are dropping the ball at the moment
[12:26] <snadge> hmm.. only 14 to upgrade
[12:26] <Milos_SD> Hello... I updated all alsa packages to 1.0.25 that are now in repositories, but "cat /proc/asound/version" says 1.0.24 ... how is that possible? :D
[12:27] <Stanley00> Milos_SD: did you restart?
[12:27] <snadge> gah.. now i can install libc6:i386 .. :| .. someone punch whomever is responsible for the mirrors in the face ;)
[12:28] <Milos_SD> Stanley00, offcorse I did (2 times actualy) :)
[12:28] <Milos_SD> Stanley00, maybe they didn't change version report in it :D
[12:29] <Stanley00> Milos_SD: do you know which package set /proc/asound?
[12:31] <Stanley00> Milos_SD: ah, maybe I found it, what "dpkg -s alsa-base" show you?
[12:32] <Milos_SD> Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/jLc9ve30
[12:33] <Stanley00> Milos_SD: well, then I dont know either... :(
[12:33] <Milos_SD> Stanley00, everything else is at 1.0.25 :D
[12:34] <Milos_SD> and I need to restart pulseaudio after I login to have my ladspa plugin loaded :S
[12:35] <Milos_SD> strange
[12:35] <Milos_SD> :)
[12:35] <snadge> hmm.. okay.. either a) mirrors have reduced their update frequency or b) precise is going ballistic on the updates
[12:36] <webm0nk3y> it seems there is a problem mounting SD cards now, this worked at one point: [75592.780744] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[12:36] <snadge> the mirrors are raping the primary servers.. and are a bit slower on the uptake as a consequence
[12:55] <snadge> someone slap the primary repo maintainer.. and ask them wtf is going on
[12:55] <snadge> why we're seeing stale mirrors atm
[12:55] <snadge> i dont believe all of them are broken at the same time ;)
[12:56] <snadge> we cant all use "Main server"
[12:57] <snadge> internode and iinet (large australian mirrors) are 1 week stale.. wtf.. aarnet is broken (huge mirror)
[13:09] <bazhang> !info libreoffice
[13:14] <huayra> I have a seriously weird problem with my external keyboard
[13:15] <huayra> at work I have a colleague who had a look and was totally surprised (when the guy is a debian dev and was earlier Ubuntu Release manager, that should give you an idea of the strangeness of this issue)
[13:15] <huayra> numlockx off does not help
[13:16] <huayra> when  ty*e w5th 0y externa3 2eyb6ard thwe N406c2 5s AWAYS act5vated
[13:16] <huayra> and when I type directly in my laptop, things just work
[13:16] <huayra> This worked yesterday
[13:17] <huayra> How can I fill this bug? I have no idea of where to start....
[13:44] <huayra> any6ne?
[13:45] <valdur55> huayra, what is your problem?
[13:47] <huayra> valdur55, the NumLk seems stuck
[13:47] <huayra> but this only applies to my external keyboard
[13:47] <valdur55> suck?
[13:47] <valdur55> stuck*
[13:47] <huayra> External USB lenove Keyboard  model SK-8855 cannot deactivate NumLock (and it is on by default)
[13:47] <huayra> *Lenovo
[13:48] <huayra> when i take the same keyboard to another machine with 11.10 or earlier it works
[13:48] <huayra> both the whole keyboard and activating deactivating the NumLock
[13:48] <huayra> "numlockx off" did not help
[13:49] <huayra> I really have no idea of what this can be caused by
[13:49] <valdur55> huayra, open xev on terminal and check numlock key mapping
[13:49] <valdur55> Focus xev vindow and press Numlock key
[13:52] <huayra> interesting
[13:52] <valdur55> what you get?
[13:52] <huayra> when I press NumLk in the external USB Keyboard I get one result
[13:52] <huayra> when I press the same on the laptop keyboard nothing happens on xev
[13:53] <huayra> let me try with and without the keyboard attached and I will paste the dump
[13:53] <valdur55> ok.  and comment you lines ;)
[13:54] <huayra> this dump was *huge*
[13:54] <huayra> let me copy+paste from the terminal
[13:55] <valdur55> lol :) no problem... put it on paste.ubuntu.com site
[13:55] <huayra> the thing is that i cannot comment on it
[13:55] <huayra> let me do it again :)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks , are there still som issues with upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS , there's a warning here from Feb3 , is this still relevant ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2
[13:56] <tbf_> blah... network manager forbids configuring an usb network interface without default route
[13:56] <valdur55> oh i thinked- "Keyboard attached" then comes output - "Internatal keyboard press" - output etc..
[13:56] <huayra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844406/
[13:56] <tbf_> :-/
[13:57] <huayra> That is from the NumLk (Fn+ScrLk) on my external USB keyboard
[13:57] <huayra> let me try and do it without the keyboard attached
[13:59] <huayra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844412/
[13:59] <huayra> valdur55,
[13:59] <tbf_> hmm... last time network manager got updated is "2012-02-09  07:45:41"?
[13:59] <huayra> this last paste is on my laptop keyboard
[14:00] <huayra> note that I press k and 2 (the same key but with NumLk deactivated and activated)
[14:00] <tbf_> but i already configured another usb interface without default route on this system
[14:00] <tbf_> odd
[14:00] <huayra> xev does not seem to detect the NumLk activation on my laptop keyboard
[14:01] <huayra> In the previous dump (http://paste.ubuntu.com/844406/) you can see that it detects something when I press the NumLk in the external USB keyboard
[14:01] <valdur55> but what happens when you press k2 on External keyboard?
[14:01] <huayra> is that expected behaviour+
[14:01] <huayra> oh
[14:01] <huayra> :)
[14:02] <valdur55> k and 2 :)
[14:02] <huayra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844417/
[14:03] <huayra> see the difference
[14:03] <huayra> it's still "2"
[14:03] <huayra> But the NumLk on the external keyboard shows some input
[14:03] <huayra> KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:03] <huayra>     root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8279271, (18,-17), root:(1987,36),
[14:03] <huayra>     state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[14:03] <huayra>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[14:03] <huayra>     XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[14:03] <huayra>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[14:03] <huayra> KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:03] <huayra>     root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8279479, (18,-17), root:(1987,36),
[14:03] <huayra>     state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[14:04] <huayra>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[14:04] <huayra>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[14:04] <huayra> PropertyNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:04] <huayra>     atom 0x154 (XKLAVIER_STATE), time 8279485, state PropertyNewValue
[14:04] <huayra> PropertyNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:04] <huayra>     atom 0x154 (XKLAVIER_STATE), time 8279487, state PropertyNewValue
[14:04] <huayra> In my laptop keyboard the change from NumLk activated toi inactivated does not throw anything at xev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844412/
[14:04] <huayra> strange or expected behaviour?
[14:05] <valdur55> But... you  pressed KP_2 , press other 2
[14:06] <huayra> I did press the k key in both (all) cases
[14:06] <huayra> in which one, the external one?
[14:07] <huayra> all other keys (except from the keys on the numlk) behave as expected
[14:07] <huayra> I did some tests woith the keyboard map layout and confirmed that
[14:07] <valdur55> on external  and don't use 2 in your numpad
[14:08] <valdur55> use key 2 which is near to w
[14:08] <huayra> ok
[14:09] <huayra> MappingNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[14:09] <huayra>     request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248
[14:09] <huayra> KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:09] <huayra>     root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8693047, (482,1039), root:(2452,1092),
[14:09] <huayra>     state 0x10, keycode 11 (keysym 0x32, 2), same_screen YES,
[14:09] <huayra>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2"
[14:09] <huayra>     XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2"
[14:09] <huayra>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[14:09] <huayra> KeyRelease event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:09] <huayra>     root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8693215, (482,1039), root:(2452,1092),
[14:09] <huayra>     state 0x10, keycode 11 (keysym 0x32, 2), same_screen YES,
[14:09] <huayra>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2"
[14:09] <huayra>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[14:09] <huayra> EnterNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001,
[14:09] <huayra>     root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8696499, (2,6), root:(1972,59),
[14:09] <huayra>     mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear, same_screen YES,
[14:09] <huayra>     focus YES, state 16
[14:09] <valdur55> huayra, don't spam! use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:10] <huayra> ok, sorry
[14:10] <valdur55> But... does it work with k and 2 ( near w )
[14:11] <huayra> to sum up
[14:13] <huayra> k and all other keys in the numlock area of my esternal usb keyboard (it has no own num pad lock as it resembles the laptops keyboard) are by default using the NumLk value (i.e. numbers and +- signs)
[14:13] <huayra> It is not possible  to deactivate numlk on this keyboard
[14:13] <huayra> although it works normally when connected with other computers
[14:13] <huayra> It worked with yesterday build (at least until for 24 hours ago)
[14:14] <huayra> and after updates last night and this morning the external keyboard is not working
[14:14] <huayra> I mean, it works, but all NumLk keys are only numbers (so no k for me!!??)
[14:14] <huayra> right now I am writing from the laptop keyboard which works find
[14:15] <huayra> How Do I fill this bug?
[14:15] <huayra> it is truly odd...
[14:16] <valdur55> dunno.. wait some days and then check again
[14:17] <huayra> but wait... there must be a way to report this bug
[14:17] <huayra> ?
[14:17] <valdur55> launchpad
[14:17] <huayra> the only thing I can think of is the onboard keyboard
[14:18] <huayra> I do not know where to report it :)
[14:18] <huayra> I mean which project. Fill it against Ubuntu precise and that's it?
[14:18] <valdur55> oh.. yea... i don't know more
[14:22] <huayra> well, thanks for your help valdur55
[14:22] <huayra> at least whe now have more data :)
[14:23] <valdur55> yea :)
[14:24] <cjohnston> Does anyone else have an issue with gstreamer in +1? I can't get it to install because the dependencies are older dependencies
[14:25] <valdur55> cjohnston, give more details... what is old.
[14:25] <valdur55> gstreamer0.10 or new version?
[14:25] <cjohnston> one sec.. compiz just crashed
[14:25] <cjohnston> I assume its whatever is in the precise repos
[14:26] <valdur55> what error do you get?
[14:29] <cjohnston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844444/
[14:31] <valdur55> update you apt-get repo... and try again...
[14:32] <cjohnston> im not sure what you are telling me.. its been like this for 2 weeks tho
[14:33] <valdur55> sudo apt-get update
[14:34] <valdur55> oh.. it's only ffmpeg?? .  Use: ubuntu-bug gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[14:38] <cjohnston> is there an easy work around?
[14:39] <valdur55> apt-get source package .... make changes and then repack it... :P
[14:41] <vega-> how do i disable apport and get rid of this annoyning "system problem detected" or "xxx has crashed" pop-ups ?
[14:44] <jokerdino> vega-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-apport follow the instructions and just use disable instead of enable.
[14:44] <valdur55> vega-, don't use testing version. Use stable :)
[14:45] <vega-> jokerdino: thanks
[14:46] <vega-> valdur55: is there a rule you can't use +1 even though you don't want to send those reports? or be notified if some trivial program crashes..
[14:46] <jokerdino> i don't think so.
[14:46] <jokerdino> i believe it is your personal preference.
[14:46] <vega-> yep
[14:47] <jokerdino> but usually, people use +1 to report crashes and bugs.
[14:47] <valdur55> no :) . But using older version is one solution ;) .
[14:48] <jokerdino> disabling the apport should be the recommended solution ;)
[14:48] <valdur55> jokerdino, yea :) .
[14:48] <vega-> you can report bugs without apport too you know.. i just find it to be too annoying and intrusive
[15:28] <TeTeT> I use an nvidia card on precise. very often popup menus are drawn transparent, no content, until I move the mouse over them. is this a known issue?
[16:28] <xapel> what will the default email client in Precise be?
[16:31] <joumetal> ubuntu-desktop pulls thunderbird now. i guess it will be default.
[16:33] <xapel> where can I get a more definitive answer?
[16:34] <crizzy> nowhere
[16:35] <xapel> ok, thanks...thunderbird it is then
[16:35] <alkisg> Hi, is that 6 MB increase in the initramfs normal or is it something in my system?
[16:35] <alkisg> $ LANG=C ls -lah /boot/init*
[16:35] <alkisg> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Feb  6 23:23 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-14-generic-pae
[16:35] <alkisg> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20M Feb 15 09:32 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-16-generic-pae
[17:02] <CT1> Hi. I'd like some help (what keywords to google).  I want to get rid of the top bar when rdesktop/rdesktop-vrdp is running, or has focus.  I'm not sure where to start looking.  Is it a matter of hiding the top bar? or telling rdesktop that it should be "on top" of it? or telling rdesktop that the screen is actually as high as it is (rather than vertical size minus the size of the top bar?)  Any push in the right direction very much welc
[17:06] <CT1> All the above because remmina seems a little buggy now (doesn't get rid of pop-up menus and combo boxes) and vinagre doesn't send all my keypresses on a poor connection.
[17:09] <charlie-tca> Would that be the top panel?
[17:10] <CT1> charlie-tca: Where the menus and time/date etc appear.
[17:10] <charlie-tca> Yes, that would be called the "top panel"
[17:11] <charlie-tca> probably can google for     "top panel" rdesktop ubuntu
[17:11] <CT1> charlie-tca: Thankyou.
[17:12] <charlie-tca> You are welcome, and good luck
[17:54] <zzecool> Check this and confirm please  Thanks
[17:54] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[17:54] <Pretto> afer the last update my numlock is always on
[17:55] <zzecool> Pretto: i have you the solution
[17:55] <zzecool> wait
[17:55] <zzecool> i was struggling with this 2 days now
[17:55] <zzecool> ........
[17:55] <zzecool> wait
[17:55] <Pretto> zzecool: dconf key?
[17:56] <zzecool> no i thought so and did a reset     <-------------poor guy
[17:56] <zzecool> its the gnome-settings-deamon
[17:56] <zzecool> wait im searchin
[17:58] <Pretto> org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard.numlock_state?
[18:00] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933405
[18:00] <zzecool> here you are
[18:01] <zzecool> i almost broke my system messing with this
[18:01] <zzecool> i thought it was a xorg problem
[18:01] <zzecool> and filled a report there way before this bug report
[18:01] <zzecool> That was my report
[18:01] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/933059
[18:02] <zzecool> now its a duplicate  of the first :p
[18:03] <Pretto> zzecool: i will check, thank you
[18:03] <zzecool> are you using 64 bit or 32?
[18:03] <zzecool> ill send you the link with the deb that fixes the problem
[18:03] <zzecool> cause its not in the upstream yet
[18:04] <zzecool> you cant take it form apt-get
[18:04] <Pretto> zzecool: ok
[18:05] <zzecool> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gnome-settings-daemon
[18:05] <zzecool> here you are
[18:05] <h00k> micahg: I ended up reinstalling.
[18:05] <zzecool> pick your architecture  download the latest deb and install
[18:06] <zzecool> h00k: why is that ?
[18:08] <h00k> zzecool: because libc6 was very broken.
[18:08] <zzecool> :o
[18:09] <h00k> It was broken for about a week, made progress yesterday, then I think libc6 borked itself, no kernels would even boot (no clue why), no recovery, etc.
[18:09] <h00k> It's all good, that's why /home is separate, etc/
[18:10] <Pretto> zzecool: fixed, thank you
[18:10] <zzecool> im doomed i didnt separate them when i did the first install
[18:10] <zzecool> Pretto:  np
[18:10] <zzecool> Pretto: i almost lost my hairs on this lol
[18:11] <zzecool> h00k:  i dont know if the is a way to separate them now never search about it
[18:11] <blair> is icedtea 2.1 going to make it into 12.04?  http://blog.fuseyism.com/index.php/2012/02/15/icedtea-2-1-released-openjdk7-u3-release/
[18:12] <pangolin> !separatehome
[18:12] <zzecool> Guys as i can see some activity going on please check this  and Confirm it  :))))))))))))
[18:12] <zzecool> thanks you
[18:12] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[18:12] <h00k> zzecool: you can still separate them
[18:12] <zzecool> pangolin:  ty
[18:12] <h00k> !separatehome | zzecool
[18:13] <zzecool> thanks
[18:13] <zzecool> didnt know
[18:13] <h00k> oh look. pangolin beat me.
[18:13] <zzecool> :)
[18:13] <Pretto> zzecool: readind the diff to view what fixed :)
[18:13] <zzecool> tue
[18:13] <zzecool> Pretto:  :)
[18:13] <pangolin> but you can reinstall and not delete/format your /home  even if it is not separate. during install when you get to the partitioning/preparing disks part you go to advanced and make sure that you select the proper mount point for /home and uncheck the format box.
[18:14] <pangolin> that way it will reinstall the system and leave /home untouched
[18:14] <zzecool> reinstall is a no for me im too lazy :P
[18:14] <h00k> pangolin: that's true, but it slaps stuff on top of your / too :(
[18:15] <pangolin> right, you need to install to / and anything you installed manually will need to be reinstalled
[18:15] <pangolin> but at least you don't lose all your personal files from /home
[18:15] <pangolin> and settings
[18:15] <h00k> alternatively, separate them ;)
[18:15] <zzecool> ill see because my HDD is a bit complicated   ..  its a a hybrid   GUID/MBR  type  trible boot  Ubuntu/OSx/windows...
[18:15] <pangolin> but even with a separate /home you still will need to install any 3rd party stuff
[18:16] <pangolin> stuff you compiled or what
[18:16] <h00k> that's true. but you won't have a messy /
[18:16] <zzecool> and all the Os  sharing same partitions for data etc
[18:16] <pangolin> h00k: you should get a default / after an install anyway
[18:17] <pangolin> hmm, maybe not.
[18:17] <h00k> pangolin: not if / and /home are on the same partition when you reinstall. It leaves everything on that partition
[18:17] <pangolin> ok. spearate /home and reinstall to make it clean and neat
[18:17] <h00k> ^ yep
[18:18]  * pangolin gives h00k a worm
[18:18]  * h00k begins making lunch
[18:19] <zzecool> pangolin: as i triple boot on the laptop  im using a NTFS partition for all the data  so it can be shared between all the OSes
[18:20] <pangolin> ewww
[18:20] <zzecool> Documents images  music etc
[18:20] <zzecool> on my home folder are actually softlinks
[18:20] <zzecool> to the ntfs partition
[18:20] <zzecool> so its a bit compicated
[18:20] <zzecool> :)
[18:20] <pangolin> I imagine it would be
[18:21] <zzecool> my every day os is ubuntu
[18:21] <zzecool> but i need windows for some things
[18:21] <zzecool> like tuning Car ecus..
[18:22] <zzecool> no ecu have linux software
[18:22] <zzecool> And on my esktop its ubuntu  / windows 7  im a bit old but still a Gamer  huhu
[18:22] <zzecool> Gamer*
[18:23] <zzecool> no ecu has* linux software
[18:23] <zzecool> pangolin: did you check my bug report  ? :)
[18:23] <zzecool> h00k: maybe you ? :)
[18:24] <pangolin> I did not.
[18:24] <zzecool> pangolin: can you please take some time to test and confirm ? :)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[18:25] <h00k> zzecool: I haven't yet, looking at something else at the moment
[18:25] <zzecool> h00k: ok ty
[18:25] <pangolin> zzecool: i'm not running +1 this cycle
[18:26] <zzecool> :o
[18:26] <zzecool> didnt know
[18:26] <zzecool> To bad this cycle  +1 feels smoother and more stable than Stable
[18:26] <zzecool> ;p
[18:26] <pangolin> yeah, I tested +1 for 4-5 cycles, taking a break :)
[18:27] <zzecool> lol
[18:28] <h00k> pangolin: that means you're getting old.
[18:29] <pangolin> h00k: you're preaching to the choir
[18:36] <zzecool> pangolin: what does this means ?  im not a native speaker so.. :)
[18:37] <zzecool> What choir is ?
[18:39] <zzecool> i got it  its origin looks to be Greek   a group of singers  : Chorodia   = Χορωδία   ;p
[18:39] <h00k> zzecool: it means he already knows
[18:40] <zzecool> i see =) ty
[18:40] <h00k> zzecool: telling something to somebody that already knows the information
[18:40] <cjohnston> hrm.. I just updated my laptop to +1.. the only way to get unity to show up is by hitting super key.. moving the mouse all the way to the left isnt working.. any idea?
[18:40] <zzecool> We have a better  in Greek  : Come Grandpa to show you Grandmothers  ( Pussy )
[18:41] <h00k> zzecool: keep it appropriate in here
[18:41] <zzecool> h00k:  ermm i do :)
[18:42] <zzecool> cjohnston: when you have a window maximized is your launcher visible ?
[18:42] <zzecool> cjohnston:  how it was before the update
[18:42] <zzecool> ?
[18:42] <cjohnston> no, fine
[18:43] <zzecool> cjohnston: Was you launcher in autohide mode or always visible ?  Explain how its was working and what stopped working
[18:43] <zzecool> cjohnston:  " fine "  cant help
[18:44] <cjohnston> auto hide.. it worked as it was supposed to.. I moved the mouse to the left and it appeared, moved it away it hid
[18:45] <zzecool> cjohnston: ok you have to push your mouse beyond the edge of the screen to make the launcher appears
[18:45] <zzecool> cjohnston: its a new feature a "resistance" to stop reveal the launcher by accident   , and there are ways to adjust the sensitivity
[18:46] <zzecool> cjohnston: are you using a mouse or a touchpad?
[18:46] <cjohnston> I'm going as far left as I can and it ising doing anything.. I have a trackball and I continue spinning it left and its not doing anything
[18:47] <zzecool> hmm
[18:47] <zzecool> i should appear
[18:47] <zzecool> it*
[18:47] <cjohnston> zzecool: it works fine on the desktop
[18:47] <zzecool> cjohnston:  right click on the desktop ----> choose change backround
[18:48] <zzecool> go to behaviour tab
[18:48] <zzecool> and play with the reveal sensitivity
[18:49] <zzecool> cjohnston: how did you end up working with a trackball ? i was always curious how can this be creative :)
[18:50] <cjohnston> I tried one years ago and liked it.. then the stopped making that one, so i had to switch to another one..
[18:50] <cjohnston> i dunno beyond that
[18:50] <cjohnston> lol
[18:51] <cjohnston> i think my friend had one that i tried
[18:51] <zzecool> :)
[18:51] <zzecool> You are a minority :p
[18:51] <cjohnston> i know.. its hard to get new ones
[18:52] <zzecool> You can use a mouse to ? Or you are doomed on the trackball ?
[18:52] <zzecool> Can you *
[18:53] <cjohnston> i can use a mouse when i need to
[18:53] <cjohnston> at work i dont have a tracball
[18:53] <zzecool> Ahh thats fine then
[18:53] <zzecool> So any progress with the launcher?
[18:54] <cjohnston> ya.. if i turn off autohide it appears
[18:54] <cjohnston> lol
[18:54] <cjohnston> (or you could call that no)
[18:54] <zzecool> lol
[18:54] <zzecool> well
[18:54] <zzecool> do you have CCSM installed?
[18:55] <cjohnston> yes
[18:55] <zzecool> ok open it up
[18:55] <zzecool> go to the unity plugin
[18:55] <zzecool> just tell me when rdy so i can continue
[18:56] <cjohnston> yup
[18:56] <cjohnston> ready
[18:56] <zzecool> oon hide launcher what do you have ?
[18:57] <cjohnston> auto]
[18:57] <zzecool> ok
[18:57] <zzecool> go to experimental tab
[18:57] <cjohnston> k
[18:57] <zzecool> count 10 lines
[18:57] <zzecool> its says
[18:57] <zzecool> Launcher Reveal Pressure
[18:58] <cjohnston> yup
[18:58] <zzecool> ok
[18:58] <cjohnston> 20
[18:58] <zzecool> turn this down to 0
[18:58] <zzecool> sry
[18:58] <zzecool> 1
[18:58] <zzecool> its goes to 1
[18:58] <zzecool> try  on the launcher now
[18:58] <cjohnston> k
[18:58] <zzecool> dont close compiz
[18:58] <cjohnston> nada
[18:58] <zzecool> no ?
[18:59] <zzecool> didnt work ?
[18:59] <cjohnston> no
[18:59] <zzecool> damn
[18:59] <zzecool> ok change this back to 20
[18:59] <zzecool> and go to the first tab
[19:00] <zzecool> change the behavior from Autohide to "Dodge Active window"   its the intelihide mode
[19:00] <zzecool> Launcher goes on when no windows touch him
[19:00] <zzecool> and if any window touch him it is like autihide
[19:01] <zzecool> Try again like this and tell me
[19:02] <zzecool> cjohnston: any progress?
[19:04] <cjohnston> works great.. unless something is maximized
[19:04] <cjohnston> i run all my windows maximized
[19:04] <zzecool> listen
[19:05] <zzecool> the number that it was 20 and we changed to 1
[19:05] <cjohnston> yup
[19:05] <cjohnston> change it back to 1?
[19:05] <zzecool> is suppose to be how many pixels further than the screen sdge you have to push your mouse pointer to reveal the launcher
[19:05] <zzecool> in my pc if i set it up to 1
[19:06] <zzecool> as my mouse touches the screen edge launcher appears
[19:06] <zzecool> there is no resistance at all
[19:06] <cjohnston> thats the way my desktop works, but not the lappy
[19:07] <zzecool> Your desktop is +1 as well ?
[19:07] <cjohnston> the desktop is 20, but it works the way it is supposed to
[19:08] <zzecool> i mean +1 precise
[19:08] <cjohnston> oh, yes
[19:08] <zzecool> Are you using trackball in both ?
[19:08] <zzecool> the same one ?
[19:08] <zzecool> or do you have 2 ?
[19:09] <cjohnston> i have synergy, but i have tried the trackpad on the laptop and it isnt doing it either
[19:09] <zzecool> i see
[19:09] <zzecool> i dont rly know
[19:10] <cjohnston> ok
[19:17] <Ian_Corne> I'm back!
[19:17] <Ian_Corne> irssi segfaulted
[19:17] <Ian_Corne> :(
[19:32] <zzecool> cjohnston: are you here?
[19:32] <cjohnston> yup
[19:36] <micahg> h00k: I'm sorry I couldn't help  you any further
[19:37] <h00k> micahg: it's okay, I'm good
[19:37] <h00k> it's running
[19:39] <cjohnston> zzecool: what's up?
[19:39] <zzecool> ahh
[19:39] <zzecool> i want you to test a bug that i found
[19:39] <zzecool> :)
[19:39] <cjohnston> ok
[19:39] <zzecool> and confirm
[19:39] <cjohnston> i have reported like 4
[19:39] <zzecool> i have a ton
[19:39] <zzecool> lol
[19:39] <cjohnston> one i even uploaded video ;-)
[19:39] <zzecool> :O
[19:40] <zzecool> ok ill check your and confirm then after mine
[19:40] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[19:40] <zzecool> this one
[19:40] <zzecool> check this
[19:40] <zzecool> :)
[19:40] <zzecool> and confirm please
[19:40] <zzecool> Wc brb
[19:40] <zzecool> Pretto: check this bug please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[19:40] <zzecool> :)
[19:41] <Pretto> zzecool: are you a bug hunter? :p
[19:42] <zzecool> lol
[19:42] <zzecool> im trying
[19:42] <zzecool> whatever comes in my way ill shoot it down
[19:43] <Pretto> hehehehe
[19:43] <zzecool> i want to see if the same happening to you so you can confirm it on the launchpad to get some attention
[19:44] <Pretto> zzecool: i will try, never needed to change that settings
[19:47] <zzecool> ok ty
[20:19] <prec> hi all, I'm trying to install precise alpha 2 alternate, but the install keeps failing because the apt-mirror I select does not support precise yet.
[20:20] <glosoli> so select different apt mirror
[20:20] <glosoli>  ?
[20:20] <prec> Is there a way to a) continue the install without specifying a mirror server, or b) find out which mirror servers support precise without manually checking them all
[20:20] <prec> glosoli: I've tried a bunch, but I keep getting the error
[20:23] <glosoli> prec: try daily builds
[20:25] <prec> ill try that, so the installation isn't supposed to fail when a mirror is not available
[20:28] <zzecool> ermm what do you need the apt-mirror on the installation ?
[20:28] <zzecool> prec: ?
[20:28] <glosoli> probably he is ticking the box to get updates or smth like that
[20:29] <zzecool> glosoli: that what i was thinking
[20:29] <glosoli> I wouldn't recommend for anyone to upgrade now ;D because it got very ugly nautilus bug
[20:29] <zzecool> prec: there is no reason to check this box  you can install every update later
[20:29] <glosoli> Like the mirror boxes appearing everywhere where you pressed right click
[20:29] <zzecool> glosoli: what?
[20:29] <zzecool> mirror boxes?
[20:30] <glosoli> I might get a screenshoot for you if you're curious ?
[20:30] <prec> zzecool: I dont know, I dont want it. But even when I dont configure the network it want to select a mirror
[20:30] <prec> glosoli: the daily builds have no alternate
[20:30] <zzecool> you mean the right click menu but empty?
[20:30] <zzecool> prec: you can select the main server after the install
[20:31] <zzecool> prec: continue the installation normaly....
[20:31] <glosoli> zzecool: http://oi41.tinypic.com/1sgi6r.jpg
[20:31] <zzecool> main apt-mirror works like charm
[20:31] <prec> zzecool: this problem is preventing me to do the install
[20:31] <glosoli> zzecool: It all happened when I pressed right click on the desktop/nautilus or anywhere :D
[20:31] <glosoli> same problem for my friend
[20:32] <prec> zzecool: which one is that, the us server?
[20:32] <zzecool> prec: dont choose to download updates while installing
[20:33] <prec> zzecool: I dont even get that option with the alternate installer
[20:33] <zzecool> main server is the main server i dont know where it is located
[20:34] <zzecool> i dont remember what the alternative cd asks you
[20:34] <zzecool> but i dont think that you need an internet connection to complete the updte
[20:34] <zzecool> you are doing something wrong
[20:35] <zzecool> to complete the installation*
[20:36] <prec> zzecool: like what? I even get the mirror error when I choose not to configure any network connections
[20:37] <zzecool> erm i dont know maybe the alternative cd iso is borged
[20:37] <zzecool> try the normal
[20:38] <zzecool> glosoli: im doin the latest updates some python updates and logout log in to check about nautilus
[20:38] <zzecool> ok good luck to me
[20:39] <glosoli> zzecool: good luck :D
[20:39] <prec> I need the alternate because I want to use full disk encryption. But if it was the alternate CD I would think a lot more people would have this problem
[20:40] <glosoli> zzecool: Everything's fine ? ;D
[20:40] <zzecool> i have amost the same
[20:40] <zzecool> but this was here before
[20:40] <zzecool> let me show you
[20:40] <prec> I need the alternate because I want to use full disk encryption. But if it was the alternate CD I would think a lot more people would have this problem
[20:40] <glosoli> zzecool: ok ;d
[20:42] <zzecool> glosoli: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24436243/borged.png
[20:42] <zzecool> its the same yes
[20:42] <zzecool> i blame the python updates
[20:42] <zzecool> lol
[20:42] <zzecool> its everywhere now
[20:43] <glosoli> ;DD haha
[20:43] <glosoli> same here, disturbs programming with eclipse ;D
[20:44] <zzecool> python2.7 or python3.2 is the problem
[20:45] <zzecool> those was the only updates i got
[20:45] <prec> hmm, selecting the us.archive.ubuntu.com does not result in the mirror error, but I do get another one
[20:45] <glosoli> zzecool: hmm, for me it updated compiz
[20:45] <zzecool> i did this before
[20:45] <prec> "No kernel modules were found, probably due to a mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive"
[20:45] <zzecool> i dont know
[20:46] <glosoli> zzecool: Maybe before you did, didin't log out and log in
[20:46] <zzecool> hmmm yeah thats true
[20:47] <zzecool> some times i wonder do they actualy test what they code or they only look the black and white console lol  ;p
[20:47] <zzecool> j/k
[20:48] <zzecool> this is so noticable you cant escape form this bug
[20:48] <zzecool> from
[20:48] <glosoli> zzecool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/933744 press that button "affects me"
[20:48] <zzecool> glosoli: ok sec
[20:48] <glosoli> zzecool: Very annoying bug ;D
[20:49] <zzecool> lol it is
[20:50] <zzecool> glosoli: check the bug comments
[20:50] <zzecool> glosoli: ;p
[20:50] <glosoli> zzecool: I already gave screenshoot in the comments ;D
[20:52] <glosoli> Now it would take 8 hours probably :DDD
[20:52] <zzecool> glosoli: i hope
[20:53] <zzecool> glosoli: its not a nautilus problem though same is happening in Google Chrome
[20:54] <glosoli> compiz probably ?
[20:54] <zzecool> glosoli: and its was happening before it started on Nautilus but without leaving the mirror windows everywhere
[20:54] <zzecool> i dont know
[20:54] <glosoli> it might be compiz probably
[20:54] <zzecool> maybe
[20:55] <zzecool> add compiz too
[20:55] <zzecool> add compiz + unity
[20:56] <glosoli> how to add multiple ?
[20:57] <glosoli> emm "
[20:57] <glosoli> no longer affects:	 compiz-core
[20:57] <glosoli> " ? ;D
[20:58] <zzecool> lol
[20:58] <zzecool> i added core by mistake
[20:58] <zzecool> i wanted to add unity
[20:58] <zzecool> :)
[20:59] <glosoli> but you added "no longer affects" ?
[20:59] <glosoli> ;D
[20:59] <zzecool> glosoli: no
[20:59] <zzecool> glosoli: i just removed it
[21:00] <zzecool> for multiple  you press the Also affects project
[21:00] <glosoli> aa, i just edited from nautilus to compiz, because I'm quite sure ;D
[21:00] <zzecool> then choose and search
[21:01] <zzecool> can you do me a favour?
[21:01] <zzecool> glosoli: ?
[21:01] <glosoli> Sure
[21:02] <zzecool> glosoli:  check this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627
[21:02] <zzecool> its mine
[21:02] <glosoli> it fixed for me already
[21:02] <zzecool> what is fixed?
[21:02] <glosoli> was having the same problem, after upgrade few moments before, everything is fine, using F1 to launch nautilus
[21:03] <glosoli> I mean I can change default shortcuts now
[21:03] <zzecool> rly?
[21:03] <zzecool> let me try
[21:03] <glosoli> yeah
[21:03] <zzecool> like 1 hour before i wasnt able
[21:03] <glosoli> I have set F1 to launch nautilus, wasn't working for a while, after upgrade, started working again
[21:04] <zzecool> log out and log in
[21:05] <zzecool> brb
[21:10] <glosoli> zzecool: Working fine  ?
[21:10] <zzecool> glosoli: hell yeah they are back
[21:11] <zzecool> but now i have a new problem
[21:11] <zzecool> do you use the scale plugin ?
[21:11] <velcom> i use the scale plugin! :)
[21:11] <zzecool> the default shortcut is the "super + W"
[21:11] <glosoli> super is right ctrl ?
[21:12] <zzecool> velcom:  the scale use to show you all the running apps form every workspace
[21:12] <glosoli> zzecool: hmm
[21:12] <zzecool> velcom: now it only shows form the current
[21:12] <glosoli> zzecool: check settings
[21:12] <zzecool> super is the windwos key
[21:12] <zzecool> windows*
[21:12] <velcom> @zzecool only shows the current
[21:13] <zzecool> velcom:  fuck :/ why did they change that
[21:13] <velcom> i dunno...
[21:13] <zzecool> ....
[21:13] <velcom> i also have another problem
[21:13] <glosoli> zzecool: lol
[21:13] <dainius_> \q
[21:13] <zzecool> velcom: file a bug report  i will confirm it
[21:13] <glosoli> zzecool: they hadn't
[21:13] <zzecool> glosoli: ?
[21:14] <glosoli> or hmm
[21:14] <glosoli> wait
[21:14] <glosoli> i need to check
[21:14] <velcom> when i bind the "initiate window picker for all windows" for when i move the mouse in the corner of the screen, it doesn`t work
[21:14] <zzecool> they did  you may  talkign about the alt tab behavior where you can select if its only for the current or for all
[21:15] <zzecool> velcom: it works for me now
[21:15] <glosoli> zzecool: yeah they did, screw them :DD
[21:15] <velcom> :)
[21:15] <zzecool> glosoli:  can you file a report ?
[21:15] <glosoli> I don't know how
[21:16] <zzecool> ok so its time for you to learn its easy
[21:16] <zzecool> :)
[21:16] <zzecool> are you rdy ?
[21:16] <glosoli> okay, but it's not a bug ;D
[21:17] <zzecool> why its not ?
[21:17] <zzecool> it is
[21:17] <glosoli> zzecool: Some time ago there was an option to shot windows from all workspaces
[21:17] <glosoli> to show''
[21:17] <zzecool> still is  but only for alt tab switch
[21:17] <zzecool> in unity plugin
[21:17] <zzecool> first tab second line
[21:17] <zzecool> ;p
[21:18] <velcom> i`ve got a question it`s bothering me for a while
[21:18] <zzecool> velcom: do you know how to report a bug ?
[21:18] <zzecool> if you dont you gonna learn now :)
[21:18] <glosoli> zzecool: teach me
[21:19] <glosoli> but i never use that super+w
[21:19] <velcom> i`ve installed 12.04 especially because the HUD feature (i also like other new features ubuntu team comes up with ind i don`t mind the bugs)
[21:19] <glosoli> :DD
[21:19] <zzecool> glosoli: first do you have a launchpad acc ?  i think yes
[21:19] <velcom> zzecool: nope, i don`t
[21:19] <zzecool> ok velcom
[21:19] <velcom> how can i install the HUD?
[21:19] <zzecool> follow me as im teaching glosoli
[21:19] <glosoli> zzecool: Yes, I have, but it might be the problem I never use Scale
[21:19] <zzecool> and i will tell you about hud later
[21:19] <zzecool> :)
[21:20] <velcom> sure zzecool thank you
[21:20] <zzecool> glosoli:  ok first when you notice a bug you have to choose hat is the package that has the problem
[21:20] <zzecool> glosoli: in our situation we think it is compiz right ?
[21:20] <glosoli> ubuntu-bug packanename ?
[21:20] <zzecool> yeap
[21:20] <zzecool> exactly
[21:20] <zzecool> :)
[21:20] <zzecool> so you know
[21:21] <glosoli> I remember, hadn't done it ever, just tryed once ;D
[21:21] <zzecool> so lets continue with velcom
[21:21] <zzecool> velcom:  do you have a launchpad account?
[21:21] <velcom> yes
[21:21] <zzecool> ?
[21:21] <velcom> no, i don`t have a launchpad account
[21:21] <zzecool> make one  :)
[21:22] <velcom> right now?:)
[21:22] <glosoli> zzecool: I will report about Scale addon :)
[21:22] <zzecool> velcom:  yes  https://launchpad.net/
[21:22] <glosoli> zzecool: I used to use it, but forgoten
[21:22] <velcom> ok :)
[21:22] <zzecool> glosoli: whe you are down post the link so me and velcom can confirm
[21:22] <zzecool> :)
[21:23] <velcom> yes glosoli :)
[21:23] <zzecool> velcom: im gonna teach you the whole procedure like we are report the bug
[21:24] <zzecool> reporting*
[21:24] <zzecool> its fast and easy
[21:26] <glosoli> zzecool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776
[21:26] <zzecool> perfect
[21:29] <velcom> ok zzecool i registered on launchpad.net :)
[21:29] <zzecool> velcom: perfect
[21:29] <zzecool> so
[21:30] <zzecool> now that we know that we have a bug
[21:30] <zzecool> we have to thing what is the culprit package
[21:30] <zzecool> as we have a problem with a compiz plugin  ( scale )
[21:30] <zzecool> we can say that prolly it is the package compiz
[21:31] <zzecool> right ?
[21:31] <velcom> of course
[21:31] <zzecool> ok
[21:31] <zzecool> open up a terminal
[21:31] <velcom> hmm ok :D
[21:31] <velcom> done
[21:31] <zzecool> we gonna use the report tool
[21:31] <velcom> :-?
[21:31] <zzecool> called "ubuntu-bug"
[21:31] <velcom> aha
[21:32] <velcom> should i just run ubuntu-bug in the terminal?
[21:32] <zzecool> type "ubuntu-bug compiz"     it work as ubuntu-bug <package name"
[21:32] <velcom> oh ok:d
[21:32] <ganimede> hello. I would like to report some feedback with dual monitor in ubuntu 11.04. is this the right channel?
[21:32] <zzecool> it support alt completion in packages
[21:33] <zzecool> ganimede:  no here is the precise pangolin channell
[21:33] <zzecool> channel
[21:33] <velcom> ok, done, it says "collecting problem information"
[21:33] <zzecool> use  #ubuntu
[21:33] <zzecool> ok
[21:33] <zzecool> velcom: just wait
[21:33] <ganimede> sorry, i meant 12.04 - just the one
[21:33] <velcom> sure
[21:34] <zzecool> ganimede: ask but i dont see any activity here
[21:34] <zzecool> istead of us
[21:34] <zzecool> :P
[21:34] <zzecool> instead
[21:34] <zzecool> velcom: when the report is rdy it will open  your browser
[21:34] <zzecool> is it open yet?
[21:34] <velcom> zzecool: it`s not ready
[21:34] <zzecool> ok
[21:35] <ganimede> so, basically I tried to use the second monitor in vertical (1080x1920) on top of the first one, in horizontal (1920x1080). so far so good, it works quite well
[21:35] <zzecool> sometimes the report can be like 16 mb
[21:35] <zzecool> sometimes only some kb
[21:35] <velcom> it asks me if it`s a reggression, happend more than once, i can reproduce the bug, i know a workaround, i know the fix for this
[21:35] <velcom> should i check the first 3 ones?
[21:35] <zzecool> whatever fits
[21:35] <velcom> ok
[21:35] <zzecool> :)
[21:36] <ganimede> however, the first monitor it is a touchscreen, but the touched point gets remapped on the entire virtual surface (1920x2920)
[21:36] <zzecool> the sure is that we dont know the fix
[21:36] <velcom> zzecool: Your display manager log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information such as your hostname.  Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?
[21:36] <velcom> do i want this?
[21:36] <ganimede> is there a way to fix it?
[21:36] <zzecool> ganimede: you have to file a report
[21:36] <glosoli> Some idiot changed  that it affect nautilus insted of compiz for those mirror bugs
[21:36] <zzecool> i dont have any dual experience here
[21:36] <ganimede> how do i do it, zzecool?
[21:37] <zzecool> ganimede: im teaching velcom  that one
[21:37] <zzecool> when he is rdy he gonna teach you
[21:37] <zzecool> and ill watch :)
[21:37] <zzecool> be patient
[21:37] <velcom> ganimede: register for an account on www.launchpad.net and use the ubuntu-bug tool, or wait for us :)
[21:38] <ganimede> i'll wait for you, no problem :)
[21:38] <zzecool> patience
[21:38] <zzecool> *
[21:38] <zzecool> velcom: any progress ? :)
[21:39] <velcom> yes, a page just poped out in firefox
[21:39] <velcom> "Please wait while bug data is processed. This page will refresh every 10 seconds until processing is complete."
[21:39] <zzecool> great now you must fill  in the title and description of your problem
[21:39] <velcom> so i`m waiting
[21:39] <zzecool> ok you have to wait for the upload to finish
[21:39] <zzecool> :)
[21:39] <velcom> ok, says here "Summary"
[21:40] <zzecool> ok this is the title of your bug report
[21:40] <velcom> should i say "cannot bind scale plugin for the corner of the screen"
[21:40] <velcom> ?
[21:40] <zzecool> i think you can
[21:41] <zzecool> when did you update fot the last time?
[21:41] <zzecool> 1 hour 2 hours?
[21:41] <velcom> me? about 4 hours ago
[21:41] <zzecool> hmm it wasnt working for me  before but after the update it works
[21:42] <zzecool> nevermind we will check
[21:42] <glosoli> velcom: dont report if you didin't updated
[21:42] <velcom> oh, ok, i`ll update right now and check it again
[21:42] <glosoli> but don't do dist-upgrade
[21:42] <zzecool> velcom:  so the lesson is over :) you are rdy to fight more bugs :)
[21:43] <zzecool> no never a dist-upgrade while running  on beta
[21:43] <glosoli> velcom: don't do "dist-upgrade" don't, just simple upgrade, otherwise you will loose a lot of ia32-libs
[21:43] <velcom> oh thank you, i was wondering how this bug reporting stuff works
[21:43] <glosoli> zzecool: I always do, but I wait for packages to be fixed and nothing is going to be removed ,then I can safely dist-upgrade :>
[21:43] <velcom> yes, i just used the "Update Manager" gui
[21:44] <zzecool> velcom: this is the best and close the partial update shit
[21:44] <glosoli> haha ;D
[21:44] <velcom> zzecool: no partial update shit here
[21:44] <zzecool> great
[21:44] <zzecool> do the updates
[21:45] <zzecool> log out and log in
[21:45] <om26er> *language*
[21:45] <glosoli> zzecool: Do you use eclipse and pydev ?
[21:45] <velcom> ok :)
[21:45] <zzecool> and you will have the same bug like me and glosoli
[21:45] <velcom> what bug?
[21:45] <glosoli> zzecool: which bug ?
[21:45] <zzecool> om26er: language brings more activity thought
[21:45] <zzecool> the compiz one
[21:45] <velcom> the super+W bug?
[21:45] <zzecool> no
[21:46] <zzecool> you will see
[21:46] <velcom> ah ok
[21:46] <zzecool> :)
[21:46] <glosoli> zzecool: say what bug dude ;D
[21:46] <zzecool> glosoli: eclipse pydev?
[21:46] <glosoli> zzecool: Eclipse with PyDev and Aptana PLugin ;D
[21:46] <zzecool> the mirror window one
[21:46] <om26er> zzecool, which bug are you talking about?
[21:46] <zzecool> glosoli: whats that i dont know
[21:47] <glosoli> zzecool: I already have ;D I gave you the link to launchpad and screenshoot don't you remember ? :D
[21:47] <zzecool> om26er: wait
[21:47] <velcom> btw i always knew about this channel but never thouught people still use irc and thanks zzecoolfor help
[21:47] <zzecool> glosoli: yeah i was saying to velcom that if he did the update he gonna have it too
[21:47] <zzecool> glosoli:  missunderstand   ? ;p
[21:47] <glosoli> Yeah ;D
[21:48] <zzecool> velcom: its was the same for me
[21:48] <velcom> lol :)
[21:48] <velcom> ok, i`m logging out and in again, brb :)
[21:48] <zzecool> velcom: so you find your alternatives me and glosoli
[21:48] <zzecool> :)
[21:48] <zzecool> ok
[21:48] <zzecool> found*
[21:48] <zzecool> glosoli:  can you please post the bug to om26er
[21:49] <zzecool> the one we have with the mirror windows
[21:50] <glosoli> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933744
[21:50] <glosoli> ahh this is dup
[21:50] <glosoli> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933615
[21:50] <glosoli> this one is original, press here that it affects you
[21:52] <zzecool> glosoli: look what they say !!  Yes, compiz 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu3 seems to have fixed it. No more ghost menus ;)
[21:52] <zzecool> :O
[21:52] <zzecool> let me check what im running
[21:53] <zzecool> im running the old one
[21:53] <zzecool> let me refresh
[21:53] <velcom> zzecool: binding "initiate window picker for all windows" to bottomleft side of the screen now works, thank you, i did not filed the report
[21:53] <zzecool> velcom: yes but you now know how to report your problems
[21:53] <zzecool> :)
[21:54] <zzecool> velcom:  now you can teach ganimede
[21:54] <velcom> yes yes, thank you again :d
[21:54] <zzecool> if he is still around
[21:54] <log> Is anyone else getting menu residue after installing all updates on Precise?
[21:54] <log> (The shadows stay on the screen after closing the menus.)
[21:54] <velcom> of course
[21:54] <zzecool> log yes
[21:54] <velcom> ganimede: you still here?
[21:54] <zzecool> log: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933615
[21:54] <glosoli> zzecool: There is no update yes ? :D
[21:55] <zzecool> it is fixed sooner or later its going to be on the mirrors
[21:55] <log> zzecool: Thanks! :) Glad to know that I'm not the only one experiencing it.
[21:55] <zzecool> glosoli: im refreshing
[21:55] <glosoli> zzecool: I will switch to original ppa
[21:55] <glosoli> mirrror'''
[21:56] <zzecool> glosoli: im using the main and still nothing
[21:56] <ganimede> yes, I am here velcom
[21:56] <zzecool> only some unity greeter and update manager updates
[21:56] <velcom> dude, i`ve got a preety nasty bug now :( after i acces a menu from the top panel the border shaddow remains there
[21:57] <ganimede> i was checking how to post a bug
[21:57] <glosoli> velcom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933615
[21:57] <ganimede> i have registered in launchpad
[21:57] <zzecool> velcom: i told you :) it is fixed we are waiting for the fix to go up in the mirrors
[21:57] <velcom> ok zzecool so i don`t have to do nothing, right?
[21:58] <glosoli> zzecool: there is update in dist-upgrade :DDD
[21:58] <zzecool> velcom: just teach ganimede
[21:58] <zzecool> :)
[21:58] <velcom> sure
[21:58] <velcom> ganimede: sorry for delay
[21:58] <ganimede> do i need to have the 12.04 installed?
[21:58] <ganimede> i am running the 11.10, launched the pangolin from the dvd only
[21:58] <zzecool> glosoli: let me check with synaptic
[21:58] <velcom> it`s not a must ganimede but this channel is about the 12.04 version
[21:59] <ganimede> that i understood. i meant if it is required for posting the bug
[21:59] <ganimede> or can be done online somewhere
[21:59] <zzecool> ganimede: its not but we are all running with the latest updates that may fixed your bug
[22:00] <velcom> yes, probably your bug has already been solved
[22:00] <zzecool> ganimede: you cant depend on the packags version of the dvd on a beta cycle updates coming every minute maybe faster
[22:00] <ganimede> mmm, doesnt look like, but in that case i do have an available partition, i may install there
[22:00] <zzecool> ganimede: you can use a Virtual machine
[22:00] <zzecool> but nooo
[22:01] <zzecool> you want dual screen etc
[22:01] <velcom> well, don`t install it if you don`t like messing with bugs cand crashing apps
[22:01] <zzecool> ;/
[22:01] <glosoli> zzecool: if you upgrade compiz it will remove unity :D
[22:01] <zzecool> lol
[22:01] <zzecool> fail
[22:01] <ganimede> ok, then i will try several use cases ;)
[22:02] <log> zzecool: I can't upgrade compiz yet due to dependency issues. :(
[22:02] <zzecool> glosoli: the best way is to check with synaptic if there are packages that going to be removed
[22:02] <log> So I'm stuck with these ugly menu residues. :P
[22:02] <zzecool> log im too
[22:02] <zzecool> we have to wait
[22:02] <log> Luckily, they moved gwibber to desktop-recommends.
[22:02] <ganimede> in the meanwhile, i'll install it asap
[22:02] <log> That kept blocking upgrades for me in the past.
[22:02] <glosoli> zzecool: I like terminal it shows also ;D
[22:03] <zzecool> glosoli: does it gives you a compiz update allready?
[22:03] <glosoli> it gives :)
[22:03] <glosoli> with dist-upgrade
[22:03] <zzecool> erm
[22:03] <ganimede> are the desktop cube, nvidia drivers (for cuda), alsa dev driver all supposed to work at once on the 12.04 current?
[22:03] <glosoli> But I won't do it ;D
[22:03] <log> zzecool: what happens if I do dist-upgrade?
[22:03] <glosoli> log: You might crash your system
[22:03] <zzecool> log: dont
[22:03] <log> oh
[22:04] <log> why?
[22:04] <zzecool> wait
[22:04] <log> just curious
[22:04] <zzecool> im gonna find a link
[22:04] <zzecool> wait
[22:04] <log> okay, okay :P
[22:04] <zzecool> log: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434
[22:04] <zzecool> read this
[22:05] <zzecool> everything its covered here
[22:05] <zzecool> :)
[22:05] <Ian_Corne> unity update still broken
[22:05] <log> ah, okay :)
[22:05] <zzecool> velcom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434   read it
[22:05] <velcom> the 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu3 update still not on the mirror..
[22:05] <log> so it's the same as doing a partial upgrade
[22:05] <log> didn't know that
[22:05] <velcom> ok zzecool
[22:05] <log> And I know not to do partial upgrades. ;P
[22:06] <zzecool> log: partial update is   actually a broken dist-upgrade
[22:06] <zzecool> but read the article
[22:06] <zzecool> :)
[22:07] <glosoli> hehehe
[22:07] <glosoli> here she goes
[22:07] <zzecool> sometimes is good when running stable release
[22:07] <glosoli> UPDATE GUYS
[22:07] <zzecool> o rly?
[22:07] <zzecool> let me check
[22:07] <velcom> zzecool: i got it now :)
[22:07] <zzecool> glosoli: i dont have the update yet
[22:07] <velcom> still no update for me :)
[22:08] <glosoli> I have
[22:08] <log> I have it, it just won't install yet.
[22:08] <velcom> lol
[22:08] <zzecool> glosoli: Speak ! tell us your source scambug !!
[22:08] <zzecool> :P
[22:08] <log> Wait, it lets me now! :D
[22:09] <zzecool> :O
[22:09] <zzecool> velcom: we are left alone
[22:09] <zzecool> :'(
[22:09] <zzecool> glosoli: Speak ! tell us your source scambug !!
[22:09] <velcom> checked via synaptic here, still no update
[22:09] <glosoli> FIXED
[22:09] <zzecool> grr
[22:09] <velcom> yes, glosoli left :))
[22:09] <zzecool> me and velcom dont have the update yet
[22:10] <zzecool> what is your source ?
[22:10] <glosoli> Do you use Main Server ? :D
[22:10] <zzecool> im using main
[22:10] <zzecool> yes
[22:10] <velcom> what is the ppa for Main Server ?
[22:10] <glosoli> there is no ppa
[22:10] <zzecool> its not a ppa
[22:10] <glosoli> you have to change in Software Sources
[22:10] <zzecool> glosoli: im on main but no update yet
[22:11] <log> Works now! :)
[22:11] <glosoli> haha ;D
[22:11] <velcom> okkk...what do i have to change ?
[22:11] <zzecool> oups its here but not full
[22:11] <zzecool> if i continue now i will lose ia32libs
[22:12] <zzecool> velcom: open the software sources
[22:12] <velcom> i did
[22:12] <velcom> :D
[22:12] <zzecool> download form : main server
[22:12] <zzecool> from*
[22:12] <glosoli> zzecool: sudo apt-get upgrade, doesn't need dist anymore
[22:12] <zzecool> hmm
[22:12] <velcom> ooooh mine is "Server from Romania" i thought i`d have better speed :)
[22:13] <glosoli> ia32-libs are in dist that's why I don't do dist now for ia32-libs
[22:13] <zzecool> glosoli: true
[22:13] <zzecool> im updating
[22:14] <zzecool> i need them too  for tweetdeck banshee aftershot and other applications
[22:14] <velcom> whoohoo updates ready to install!
[22:14] <zzecool> :)
[22:14] <zzecool> velcom:  Horraayyy :)
[22:14] <velcom> :D
[22:17] <zzecool> :D
[22:18] <velcom> zzecool: you there? problem solved after update here
[22:18] <velcom> you?
[22:18] <zzecool> same
[22:18] <zzecool> :)
[22:18] <velcom> awesome
[22:18] <zzecool> now lets hope abot scale
[22:19] <zzecool> about8
[22:19] <velcom>  :)
[22:19]  * popey wonders if anyone else is getting firefox and thunderbird lockups?
[22:19] <velcom> i`m wondering if you guys have this problem too, i`m having it since i first installed 11.04
[22:19] <zzecool> i kissed firefox bb long time ago
[22:19] <zzecool> Chrome here
[22:19] <zzecool> :)
[22:20] <velcom> when i right-click desktop the context menu is an old gray themed menu
[22:20] <velcom> and also the contact info in empathy is written with white on gray and is hard to read
[22:20] <zzecool> velcom: hmm
[22:21] <zzecool> what theme are you using
[22:21] <velcom> how does your desktop context menu look?
[22:21] <zzecool> can you post a screenshot
[22:21] <zzecool> ?
[22:21] <velcom> of course
[22:22] <velcom> oh come onnn
[22:22] <velcom> screenshot not working at all
[22:22] <velcom> nothing happens
[22:22] <velcom> also no changes in Pictures folder
[22:22] <zzecool> erm
[22:23] <velcom> probably the package is not installed
[22:23] <velcom> what is the package that handles screenshots?
[22:23] <zzecool> its working on mine
[22:23] <zzecool> press windows key and type screenshot
[22:24] <glosoli> For me when I press PrtSc it appears in Pictures folder
[22:24] <zzecool> do you see the app ?
[22:24] <velcom> i probably just have to install that package but i don`t know the name
[22:24] <zzecool> glosoli: they ruind this one too it use to ask you where to save ........
[22:24] <zzecool> ruined*
[22:24] <glosoli> zzecool: Ah, for me it's just fine to appear in pictures folder
[22:25] <glosoli> you can simply enable screenshoot plugin in compiz if you wan't so
[22:25] <zzecool> velcom: its gnome-screenshot
[22:25] <glosoli> pressing supper and using mose to define the area will make screen of the area
[22:26] <zzecool> glosoli: in oneiric the gnome-screenshot tool was asking you where to save the SS and letting you to change the name
[22:26] <zzecool> glosoli: there is allrdy a bug
[22:26] <zzecool> report
[22:26] <glosoli> zzecool: Yeah, i remember, I am ubuntu user for about 5 years
[22:26] <velcom> thank you zzecool
[22:26] <zzecool> :D
[22:26] <zzecool> velcom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776
[22:27] <zzecool> confirm this bug
[22:27] <glosoli> Had first expierence about six years ago when compiz was still known as beryl
[22:27] <zzecool> :)
[22:27] <glosoli> But for a long time had a lot of technical issues
[22:27] <glosoli>  ;D
[22:27] <velcom> it appears to be installed
[22:27] <zzecool> im a ubuntu user before beryl  ;p
[22:27] <velcom> how do i confirm a bug?
[22:27] <glosoli> zzecool: Good for you ;D I was stupid gamer in that time, now studying programming, it fits me right in
[22:27] <glosoli> ;D
[22:27] <zzecool> velcom: This bug affects you and 1 other person
[22:28] <zzecool> glosoli: im still a gamer :D
[22:28] <velcom> ah, found it, thanks
[22:28] <zzecool> i dont know nothing about coding
[22:28] <zzecool> :P
[22:28] <glosoli> zzecool: I can't haha, in my computer there is only Pangolin :D
[22:28] <velcom> done
[22:28] <glosoli> zzecool: Some flash games from time to time for me ;D
[22:28] <zzecool> my Desktop is a windows machine :)
[22:29] <zzecool> this is my laptop triple boot osx win and ubuntu
[22:29] <velcom> i reinstalled package gnome-screenshot and now it works....weird one :)
[22:29] <zzecool> ;p
[22:29] <zzecool> velcom:  :D ho
[22:29] <glosoli> zzecool: I was quite negative about programming in the first place, now I quite like it, it's like a game, but much more harder and you can benefit from it ;D
[22:29] <zzecool> im allrdy 31 no and im so busy with many things
[22:29] <zzecool> no time for coding
[22:30] <zzecool> i will rest my case as a power user
[22:30] <zzecool> :)
[22:30] <zzecool> for my sanity
[22:30] <zzecool> lol
[22:30] <velcom> zzecool: lol i just realizesd that when i`m in the context menu, pressing PrtSc does not work, i don`t think this is a real bug but how am i supposed to take a screenshot of the context menu?
[22:30] <glosoli> zzecool: hah, meanwhile I am 20 years old ;D
[22:31] <zzecool> velcom: rly?
[22:31] <velcom> yes =))
[22:31] <zzecool> glebihan: noob :o
[22:31] <glosoli> PrtSc never worked in Context menu
[22:31] <velcom> lol glosoli but how am i supposed to take a picture of the context menu?
[22:31] <zzecool> velcom: holy moly you are right
[22:31] <zzecool> and this is a bug
[22:31] <zzecool> go go  report it
[22:31] <velcom> =)))))) this is so funny
[22:32] <zzecool> :)
[22:32] <glosoli> velcom: use Screenshoot tool in ubuntu, and set timer for some seconds
[22:32] <velcom> glosoli: i`ll do that thank you
[22:32] <glosoli> if this is bug, it is since Oneiric for sure
[22:32] <zzecool> rly ?
[22:32] <glosoli> yes
[22:32] <zzecool> never noticed befoe
[22:32] <glosoli> maybe even older
[22:32] <zzecool> before
[22:32] <velcom> zzecool: i don`t think this is a bug, it`s just not supposed to work that way
[22:32] <glosoli> velcom +1
[22:33] <velcom> :))
[22:33] <glosoli> because if you press right click + prtsc it just thinks you did a hotkey thing
[22:33] <glosoli> some type of combination
[22:33] <velcom> exactly
[22:33] <zzecool> no its a bug
[22:34] <zzecool> same happens with the top panel menus
[22:34] <zzecool> you cant SS them
[22:34] <glosoli> Well it has been for a long time, and still is
[22:34] <glosoli> :)
[22:34] <zzecool> im still getting mirror windows but if i howver the mouse they appear
[22:35] <zzecool> hover*
[22:35] <ganimede> is the desktop cube supposed to continue working on the 12.04?
[22:35] <zzecool> ganimede: probably
[22:35] <ganimede> excellent, this weekend i will install everything
[22:35] <zzecool> :)
[22:35] <zzecool> velcom: ?
[22:36] <zzecool> did you confirm the bug for the scale allready ?
[22:36] <velcom> yes, i`m uploading screenshots :D
[22:36] <glosoli> zzecool: Have you remember ever being able to SreenShoot context menu ?
[22:36] <velcom> no i didn`t it worked
[22:36] <ganimede> thank you for now and goodnight
[22:36] <zzecool> glosoli: i think so
[22:36] <zzecool> not sure tho
[22:37] <velcom> here is 1st
[22:37] <glosoli> zzecool: As I remember I have never been able to do that, eve now I can't ;D
[22:37] <velcom> http://ubuntuone.com/46SnIKqRSD6HdBqzM5J8jv
[22:37] <velcom> here is 2nd http://ubuntuone.com/6vot8K5HT3VbWqElR3tTNL
[22:37] <velcom> do you have that?
[22:38] <glosoli> velcom: it's ubuntu themes problem ;D Same thing happen in Deja Dup
[22:38] <glosoli> so you might report a bug
[22:38] <velcom> aha
[22:38] <glosoli> in btw, first check if it isn't already reported
[22:38] <glosoli> I think it is
[22:38] <velcom> but what is the package i`m reporting, is it ubuntu-desktop or what?
[22:38] <velcom> ok,i`ll wait
[22:39] <glosoli> velcom: You use Edge Illumination Toggles ?
[22:39] <glosoli> just curious
[22:39] <velcom> it`s set to "always off" i think
[22:39] <glosoli> velcom: hmm, ubuntu-desktop is not package it's meta package or smth like that
[22:39] <zzecool> glosoli: here you are https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/927952
[22:39] <velcom> oh, didn`t know that
[22:39] <glosoli> velcom: light-themes maybe
[22:40] <glosoli> zzecool: read first comment
[22:41] <velcom> aha...okay
[22:41] <zzecool> glosoli: hmm
[22:43] <zzecool> glosoli: i dont rly like the new way but its ok for now
[22:43] <glosoli> Linux users are really effeminate ;D
[22:44] <johnjohn101> just got the recent update.
[22:44] <johnjohn101> a few issues
[22:44] <glosoli> johnjohn101: what kind of ?
[22:45] <johnjohn101> vmware 4.0.1 -  3d  menus leave the outlines (shadows) on the screen
[22:45] <johnjohn101> vmware 4.0.1 -  pangolin will not wake up when the main computer sleeps
[22:46] <glosoli> ah, I am using in in real computer as main/the only one operating system
[22:46] <glosoli> so can't help for vmware :)
[22:46] <johnjohn101> other than that, i can tell a HUGE diff in the speed of unity
[22:46] <zzecool> me too
[22:46] <zzecool> unity is hell a lot faster than oneiric
[22:47] <glosoli> yeah it is :)
[22:47] <zzecool> glosoli: im recording my mirror window bug in video
[22:47] <glosoli> I am just still sad for ati :)
[22:47] <velcom> here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/933841 :)
[22:47] <glosoli> zzecool: Will you show me after ?
[22:47] <zzecool> yeap
[22:48] <glosoli> ATI Proprietary drivers are little slower, but more effective, meanwhile opensource drivers are hell of a fast, but not effective :D
[22:49] <johnjohn101> i really want to put on main box at home but will wait for released version.   I have too many current projects that I can't afford to get wrecked
[22:51] <johnjohn101> yeah that comment about ati drivers makes me wary of using the latest amd cpus if I want to upgrade my home system
[22:52] <glosoli> dont use dude
[22:52] <glosoli> please
[22:52] <glosoli> don't go mad, i was lifetime fan for Nvidia/intel, and I made bit mistake for giving a try
[22:54] <johnjohn101> so your advice is to stick with intel and sandy bridge?
[22:55] <zzecool> glosoli: done  it is 45 mb  ... im wondering if ill have to upload it like that or to link it to youtube
[22:55] <glosoli> johnjohn101: for sure
[22:55] <glosoli> zzecool: yt ? ;D
[22:55] <zzecool> the video
[22:56] <glosoli> yes put it in youtube ;D
[22:56] <zzecool> ok
[22:56] <johnjohn101> glosoli: tx
[22:56] <glosoli> all amd care is about gamers :)
[22:57] <zzecool> ok in 11 minutes
[22:57] <zzecool> glosoli: do you have chrome installed?
[22:58] <glosoli> yes :)
[22:58] <zzecool> stable or unstable?
[22:58] <zzecool> what channel ?
[22:58] <zzecool> im unstable all the way ;p
[22:59] <zzecool> 19.0.1041.0 dev
[22:59] <glosoli> unstable
[22:59] <glosoli> I always use unstable ;D
[22:59] <glosoli> for chrome it works perfectly
[22:59] <zzecool> :D
[22:59] <zzecool> me too
[22:59] <zzecool> becuase its allrdy tested in chromium
[23:00] <zzecool> :p
[23:00] <zzecool> because*
[23:00] <glosoli> for ubuntu mostly used betas ant stable now just wanted to test because it's LTS ;D
[23:00] <zzecool> i think we are beta now
[23:00] <zzecool> not alpha anymore
[23:00] <glosoli> hmm beta will be when feature freeze
[23:01] <zzecool> true
[23:01] <zzecool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[23:02] <johnjohn101> isnt' that today
[23:02] <zzecool> nope
[23:02] <johnjohn101> i can't wait to see the wallpaper collection!!
[23:03] <zzecool> actually it is
[23:03] <glosoli> tomorrow it is
[23:03] <zzecool> erm  those number before the date confused me
[23:03] <glosoli> Wallpaper Collection ? hmm never picked any wallpaper from ubuntu ;D
[23:03] <zzecool> They all suck  :x
[23:03] <johnjohn101> i'm still using 9.10 wallpapers
[23:03] <zzecool> lol
[23:04] <glosoli> zzecool: for me also
[23:04] <glosoli> I use this one: http://winnichip.deviantart.com/art/VII-284853114
[23:04] <zzecool> 5 min for video
[23:04] <glosoli> ofcourse not on macbook ;D but on my asus ;D
[23:04] <zzecool> Very nice
[23:05] <zzecool> ahh i wish i had a macbook its so nice and smooth
[23:05] <zzecool> :)
[23:05] <zzecool> and runs ubuntu like a charm
[23:05] <zzecool> :P
[23:05] <zzecool> i have a Sony Vaio
[23:05] <glosoli> zzecool: I wish I had new Asus, it so nice, smooth, and fast meanwhile there aint any macbook which can compete with my asus
[23:05] <glosoli> :DDD
[23:05] <velcom> but macs are so expensive and not worthy
[23:06] <glosoli> velcom: +1 again ;D
[23:06] <zzecool> velcom: yeah i agree
[23:06] <velcom> :))
[23:06] <zzecool> but they are unbeatable in design
[23:06] <glosoli> zzecool: No they aint ;D
[23:06] <zzecool> Apple is unbeatable in design and marketing
[23:06] <zzecool> i say they are
[23:06] <zzecool> ;p
[23:06] <zzecool> nothing comes close to a macbook
[23:06] <velcom> yes, the design is awesome it`s beautiful and slim and soooo smooth but that`s too expensive
[23:06] <glosoli> You don't pay alot of attention to dells and asus i guess then
[23:07] <zzecool> i pay  on the asus imitation of macbook
[23:07] <velcom> oh i have a lenovo g550, i totally love it
[23:07] <zzecool> the new fancy line let me rememer
[23:07] <velcom> perfect design for me
[23:07] <glosoli> dide there is no imitations in everything
[23:07] <glosoli> everyone just copy :)
[23:08] <zzecool> Asus probook or something i bought one for my mom
[23:08] <zzecool> lately
[23:08] <zzecool> Nice design but the monitor was a joke
[23:08] <glosoli> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfOGucVylY quite nice for me, but seem better ;D
[23:08] <glosoli> but seen better''
[23:09] <glosoli> zzecool: Asus has no line called "probook" maybe you are talking about crappy HP ? ;D
[23:09] <zzecool> maybe
[23:09] <zzecool> yes
[23:09] <popey> anyone else getting this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/93112459/Screenshot%20at%202012-02-16%2023%3A06%3A30.png
[23:09] <zzecool> it was HP
[23:09] <zzecool> you are right
[23:09] <popey> bug 933826
[23:10] <zzecool> popey: yes update its fixed allrdy
[23:10] <zzecool> use the main server
[23:10] <glosoli> zzecool: Check that video, you might like :)
[23:11] <zzecool> glosoli: check the bug
[23:11] <zzecool> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi1CAdyelOc&feature=youtu.be
[23:11] <popey> zzecool: oh ☺
[23:12] <popey> zzecool: i see no updates that would fix it
[23:12] <glosoli> zzecool: there is no bug for me :/ tryed restart ?
[23:12] <zzecool> popey:  ?
[23:12] <glosoli> popey: there are updates already
[23:12] <zzecool> glosoli: i got this 2 days now
[23:13] <popey> this only started today
[23:13] <zzecool> popey: the bug you are talking about is fixed
[23:13] <zzecool> my video is looks like yours but its another
[23:13] <zzecool> :)
[23:13] <popey> it honestly isnt fixed
[23:13] <popey> I'm fully up to date
[23:13] <zzecool> whats yout compiz package version
[23:13] <glosoli> popey: you probably don't use Main Server
[23:13] <popey> i do
[23:14] <zzecool> paste your compiz version here
[23:14] <glosoli> popey: you did log out log in ?
[23:14] <popey> 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu3
[23:14] <popey> glosoli: rebooted
[23:14] <log> That version should have fixed it...
[23:15] <zzecool> true
[23:15] <velcom> yes...
[23:15] <log> You might be one of the people for whom the previous fixed worked (which was rolled back).
[23:15] <velcom> auch
[23:15] <zzecool> so you still have it ?
[23:15] <popey> that screenshot was taken a few minutes ago
[23:15] <log> s/fixed/fix/
[23:15] <velcom> i don`t
[23:15] <zzecool> velcom:  ?
[23:15] <velcom> for me, the update worked
[23:16] <velcom> no more sqare shadows
[23:16] <zzecool> it worked for me
[23:16] <zzecool> i only have problem with chrome
[23:16] <velcom> oh, i only use firefox,
[23:16] <zzecool> the one in my video
[23:16] <velcom> don`t know about chrome
[23:16] <zzecool> glosoli: did you checked my video ?
[23:16] <glosoli> zzecool: yes, tryed to do the same in my chrome, but have no problem
[23:17] <zzecool> i wonder where to report it now
[23:17] <zzecool> int the same bug as before or in a new one
[23:17] <zzecool>  :/
[23:17] <zzecool> i will start a new
[23:18] <Milos_SD> Hi
[23:18] <glosoli> zzecool: hm have you tryed reboot ?
[23:18] <zzecool> yes
[23:18] <zzecool> i have this 2 days now
[23:18] <zzecool> :/
[23:19] <zzecool> maybe reinstall chrome
[23:19] <zzecool> let me try
[23:19] <velcom> try on chrome forums maybe is a chrome related thingy :-??
[23:20] <Milos_SD> Does anyone else have problems with input?
[23:20] <velcom> anyway can i somehow install the HUD?
[23:20] <velcom> Milos_SD:  what input?
[23:21] <zzecool> velcom: we forgot about that
[23:21] <zzecool> velcom: wait
[23:21] <zzecool> im resinstaling chrome reboot and ill give you the ppa
[23:21] <velcom> i also forgot :))
[23:21] <zzecool> :P
[23:21] <velcom> ok, no problem
[23:22] <Milos_SD> velcom, almost any... keyboard or mouse
[23:23] <Milos_SD> it started happening after todays compiz update (ubuntu2 one), but it is not fixed in ubuntu3
[23:23] <Milos_SD> it is randome
[23:24] <Milos_SD> when it happends, i can't write at all, and if i go to the indicators, they look like they are pressed, but no menu comes out (just the round decoration around them).
[23:25] <Milos_SD> I just noticed that I can interupt that, and get back to normal when I activate "windows scale"
[23:26] <velcom> wow, never happend to me
[23:26] <velcom> sounds preety nasty
[23:27] <zzecool> glosoli: problem still here
[23:27] <zzecool> ;/
[23:27] <velcom> are you sure no key stays pressed ?
[23:27] <glosoli> zzecool: hmm
[23:27] <zzecool> velcom: wait for hud
[23:27] <Milos_SD> not tu mention that "expo" isn't working at all... everything is white, and starts using a lot of cpu
[23:27] <velcom> Milos_SD:  maybe some key broke on your keyboard and stays pressed all the time
[23:27] <Milos_SD> and after "recovery" I have a lot of garbge on my screen
[23:27] <zzecool> velcom: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/hud-ubuntus-new-smart-menus-announced.html
[23:27] <zzecool> here you are
[23:27] <zzecool> :)
[23:28] <zzecool> Good luck havent tried this one :)
[23:28] <log> zzecool: Try installing chromium-browser instead of chrome.
[23:28] <zzecool> log i dont like it im using Chrome sync to many computers :)(
[23:28] <Milos_SD> and I am sure no keys are pressed and that keyboard is ok
[23:28] <log> Chromium does sync as well...
[23:29] <zzecool> log: and glosoli uses chrome without the buf
[23:29] <zzecool> bug
[23:29] <velcom> Milos_SD: i have no ideea, that never happend to me, try reporting a bug
[23:29] <Milos_SD> almost alweys happends when I press shift (left or right, doesn meter)
[23:29] <zzecool> log: didnt know
[23:29] <velcom> zzecool: thanks
[23:29] <zzecool> velcom: np
[23:30] <Milos_SD> and when I restart compiz, I can't restore any window that was open :S
[23:30] <Milos_SD> but that started happening a few days ago...
[23:30] <Milos_SD> can it be, that my graphics card is broken?
[23:30] <Milos_SD> :S
[23:32] <velcom> i don`t think your graphics card is broken
[23:32] <velcom> compiz always had BIG problems
[23:32] <velcom> i recommend uninstalling compiz if you cannot find any workarounds
[23:32] <velcom> maybe that will help
[23:33] <Milos_SD> velcom, you mean, reinstalling? with purge and install again?
[23:33] <velcom> have to close, brb
[23:33] <velcom> no, just uninstall compiz and don`t use it if you have big problems
[23:33] <velcom> compiz was never very stable
[23:36] <velcom> zzecool: pressing alt key doesn`t help
[23:37] <velcom> the global menu appears with underlind shortcuts
[23:37] <zzecool> ?
[23:37] <velcom> nothing more
[23:37] <velcom> i also tryied installing hud with some ppa from omgubuntu blog but that didn`t work also
[23:37] <zzecool> hmm
[23:37] <zzecool> i dont know
[23:37] <zzecool> you have to wait to be official then
[23:37] <zzecool> :D
[23:37] <velcom> i wanted to test the hud feature since i first installed 12.04 but it never worked
[23:38] <velcom> oh really :(
[23:41] <glosoli> what's hud feature ?:D
[23:43] <zzecool> glosoli:
[23:43] <zzecool> velcom:
[23:43] <zzecool> please confirm my bug even thought you dont have it
[23:43] <zzecool> so it can get attention
[23:43] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933877
[23:43] <zzecool>  Thanks
[23:43] <zzecool> :)
[23:43] <glosoli> cheater :DD
[23:43] <zzecool> ;p
[23:44] <velcom> ok :))
[23:44] <zzecool> ty ty
[23:45] <zzecool> only 1 confirmed  hmm
[23:45] <zzecool> grrrrrr
[23:48] <glosoli> confirmed ;d
[23:48] <glosoli> still don't think it's a bug
[23:49] <glosoli> ;D
[23:49] <glosoli> Might be your adwaita theme problem
[23:55] <zzecool> let me check
[23:56] <zzecool> glosoli: about you laptop : It's a hefty laptop that weighs 2.7kg  lol rly?
[23:56] <velcom> hey zzecool i`ve run an update through synaptics and now i finally have HUD installed
[23:56] <velcom> this is awesome :D
[23:56] <zzecool> :D
[23:56] <glosoli> zzecool: 2.7 kg is not much for me :D don't feel that much :D
[23:57] <zzecool> be carefull with synaptics and every time read if there is any packages to be removed
[23:57] <glosoli> 16 inch monitor meanwhile
[23:57] <zzecool> :D
[23:57] <zzecool> velcom: synaptics can brick your system if you are not careful too :) it like dist-upgrade
[23:58] <velcom> yes, i saw synaptics remove packages, 2 weeks ago i got ubuntu-desktop removed, same reason =))
[23:58] <velcom> but i got it installed now :)
[23:58] <zzecool> lol
[23:58] <velcom> had luck with ubuntu 2d session :P still worked
[23:58] <zzecool> You got trolloled by synaptic and partial upgrade ;p
[23:59] <glosoli> zzecool: Now I think 15inch would have been better for me, or even 13'' maybe ;D
[23:59] <zzecool> 15 is the best
[23:59] <glosoli> But as I watch movies 15''
[23:59] <zzecool> if you want your laptop to be mobile
[23:59] <glosoli> Watch a lot lot lot lot lot of movies'' :D
[23:59] <zzecool> i do also and the best thing about movies is XBMC !!!