[00:02] has the kernel been frozen for 12.04? [00:03] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/all-ubuntu-12.04.html seems to suggest so, but i can't be 100% sure [00:03] i need something that points one way or the other [00:06] eightyeight: kernel configuration is frozen [00:08] (unless there are bugs that require them to change something) === doomviki1g is now known as doomviking [00:45] I'm still having libc6 issues I can't seem to fix. I'd rather not reinstall :( [00:46] my package-management-foo isn't strong enough [00:47] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843805/ [00:51] sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/843806/ I don't know if I want to do this [00:55] h00k, I would not do that [00:55] robin0800: probably not. [00:55] robin0800: it says it wants to upgrade them, then it says it wants to remove a ton. [00:55] 468 of them, in fact. [00:57] h00k, I have read that aptitude is broken in 12.04 might be best not to use it [00:58] robin0800: yeah. I can't do anything much with apt-get, either. [00:58] I can't install anything or remove anything. [00:58] I'd rather not reinstall, [00:59] h00k, try the update manager or synaptic [01:01] aptitude is unable to handle conflicts related to multiarch, unfortunately. [01:02] Which is why it wants to remove everything [01:02] Oh, so...update manager may be actually grabbing the updates. [01:02] and only wants to remove 3 packages. [01:03] O.O if this works, I'm baffled. and happy. [01:03] update-manager pulling something that couldn't be done in CLI is quite surprising indeed. [01:04] *pulling off [01:05] Daekdroom, is there a plan to fix aptitude? [01:06] bug 831768 [01:06] Launchpad bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu Precise) "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831768 [01:07] It wasn't assigned to anyone yet. [01:59] apt-get works with multiarch, I'm not sure whether aptitude does in Debian, even, yet. [03:13] doho, now I have a broken lightdm [03:13] restarting was a bad idea. [03:17] lightdm isbroken, apt-get -f install cannot fix it [03:17] update-manager cannot [03:18] h00k: what's specifically broken? [03:18] micahg: libc6 [03:18] ugh :(, any chance for a pastebin of the issue? [03:19] last upload was 6 days ago... [03:19] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843921/ [03:20] micahg: it's been broken for tha tlong :( [03:20] now I did update-manger that did half of packages [03:20] is that an upgrade or a dist-upgrade? [03:20] the last like that didn't pastebin is: E:Internal Error: no file name for libc6 [03:21] micahg: that was an apt-get install -f [03:21] let me pastebinit a dist-upgrade [03:21] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843922/ [03:22] last line is: unmet dependencies, try using -f [03:23] I've just about given up. Downloading daily, will be done in approx. 4 hours on these internets. [03:24] h00k: did you have a partial upgrade? [03:24] micahg: yep [03:25] when I update-manager'd today. I hadn't tried it in 6 days, was only trying with apt-get. [03:25] apt-get -f install didn't fix it? [03:25] negative. says it needs to download packages, then E: Internal Error: no file name for libc6 [03:27] well, if you grab the i386 libc6 and libpam-modules-bin(= 1.1.3-7ubuntu1), you should be most of the way fixed [03:27] just libc6 might be enough to fix it [03:29] I can try to wget/dpkg -i them [03:31] micahg: I think they're in my apt cache === crond_ is now known as crond [03:38] micahg: working on it, turns out iI need libgcc1 too [03:44] It depends on multiarch-support, which isn't apparently configured [03:45] working on that. [03:53] seriously, this sucks [03:56] yeah, you don't want to power off in the middle of a libc update [03:58] I didn't :( [03:59] libc6 is depending on multiarch-support, which is a circular dependence on libc6? [03:59] and libgcc1 is in the middle of those. [04:00] Oh, progress! [04:01] h00k: wait, apt-get -f install didn't fix it? [04:04] nhaines: no. I grabbed the debs with wget, and just did: sudo dpkg -i *.deb [04:05] micahg: ^ [04:08] ok [04:10] micahg: I'm having myself grab a bunch of .debs and dpkg -i'ng them as they require them. For instance, libstdc++6, libapt-4.12, etc [04:15] oh no. [04:15] suddenly I don't have sudo [04:15] or ls [04:17] recovery console should give you a root shell [04:19] h00k: I'd try apt-get -f install and see if that fails still [04:20] micahg: yeah, I've been doing that. Something fails, requires something, I've been manually getting that, installing it, making progress. [04:20] cool [04:20] just keep an eye on what it offers to do [04:20] yeah, and the last thing left me with no sudo. [04:21] libssl1.0.0 [04:21] oh, that doesn't sound good [04:21] or any command, rather ;) [04:21] recovery mode kernel panicked [04:22] how long since you upgraded? [04:22] 6 days since I couldn't, [04:22] because I've been having libc6 issues. [04:23] I haven't had time dedicated to working on this [04:23] yeah. I may concede to a reinstall. [04:24] no boot. [04:24] micahg: thanks for letting me bounce things off, anyway. [04:25] h00k: sorry, I'm not too familiar with kernel recovery, but you could try an older kernel to see if it still boots [04:26] they panic :) [04:38] hmm, lots of things blocking on g++-4.6. [04:38] And I can't report a crash in unity-2d-panel because I have out-of-date g++-4.6. [04:41] correction: the bug report is blocked due to: gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libstdc++6. [04:43] thankfully, this is on my server, which is primarily used headlessly for torrents. [04:57] I just wish this weird touchpad issues goes away [04:58] where you move it, and hold your finger, and it keeps moving [05:02] oh, somehow I lost my ubuntu-desktop. No wonder. [05:02] though, I was hoping to get unity session with minimal actual applications. [05:02] That'll do it [05:03] DanaG: might be arch skew a new version was recently uploaded [05:04] ah, I just need to install without recommends. [05:04] Wish somebody would make aptitude able to handle multiarch. [05:04] Had to purge all i386 libs to get aptitude not to freak out. [05:12] cool, reinstalling ubuntu-desktop fixed the crash. [05:12] though, I seem to still have the old unity. [05:28] so, where's this new unity? [08:15] I have problems with dependencies when upgrading, help pls : http://paste.ubuntu.com/844088/ [08:17] hi. can I disable that email/IM indicator in 12.04? [08:19] cemc: doesnt seem so [08:19] not on the traditional way [08:20] gotwig, you mean updating? [08:20] gotwig: yes [08:20] urfr332g0: dist-upgrade [08:21] gotwig, actually use the update manager and look for a partial upgrade and don't run it. [08:21] what you mean [08:21] dont run it? [08:22] gotwig, partial upgrades are known to break wait for the packages to get to the repos. [08:27] gotwig: is there a non-traditional way? I'll take it ;) [08:30] cemc: maybe with dconf-editor [08:37] cemc: you can uninstall it, lol [08:37] :P === max is now known as Visionaire [08:44] mhall119: I already have all the data I need, now I only have to filter it, for my recipefy scope [08:44] mhall119: in one output I have the data [08:45] mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844105/ [08:47] gotwig: I would. what's the name of the package? [08:47] cemc: wait for it. and sry that that is not a good solution [08:48] cemc: would you be interessted in a cooking lens, the 1337 style :D? [08:49] package name is indicator-messages [08:54] gotwig: thanks, I'll give it a try [08:54] cemc: dont break your system ;Ü! === max is now known as Visionaire [09:03] Hello all, those who are using Alpha 2 of 12.04 LTS have you experienced any Compiz crashes. As such are you able to use Compiz without much conflict? [09:04] aBound: works here not bad [09:04] gotwig, Able to use the desktop cube and rotate cube? [09:05] anyone know why dist-upgrade wants to remove a ton of :i386 packages? [09:06] aBound: did that ever work with unity [09:06] aBound: so no [09:06] *normal* [09:06] maccam94: here is the same problem [09:06] i'm guessing the gcc packagers broke something [09:07] maccam94: 12.04 should officialy become the first version in which 64 bit is recommended, I think the i386 packages are unnecessary, couse you still have the 64 bit one [09:07] s [09:07] maccam94: yeah [09:07] it also wants to remove wine and skype though [09:07] gotwig, Dang still hasn't been fixed. Hopefully it's fixed in the final release. [09:07] the i386 packages are supposed to be for compatibility [09:07] maccam94: there is no real 64 bit skype out there [09:07] the wine problem, I dont know === max is now known as Visionaire [09:22] 2eyb6ard 5s n6t w6r25ng [09:22] aaaaa [09:25] N40 36c2 by defa43t [09:25] ??!!! [09:34] huayra: o.0? [09:35] 0y 2eyb6ard has scr32 by defa43t [09:35] and cann6t wr5te [09:35] what [09:35] TH5S REA3Y S4C2S [09:36] s6rry ca*s [09:37] * gotwig is not happy [09:37] ne5ther a0 5 [09:37] n6 2eyb6ard [09:37] !! [09:37] type this... [09:38] ty*e th5s,,, [09:38] "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" [09:38] "the q45c2 br6wn f6x 140*s 6ver the 3azy d6g" [09:38] scr32 cann6t be deact5vated [09:38] oh wait [09:38] this is only with my external keyboard... [09:38] scrlk? [09:39] what does scroll lock have to do with that [09:39] I deattached now and I can tap on my laptop keyboard [09:39] NumLock [09:39] sorry I was reading the key worng [09:39] weird [09:39] the *r6b3e0 5s 6n3y 6n 0y externa3 2eyb6ard [09:40] it worked yesterday (and it's all Thinkpad gear...) [09:40] NumLock is not deactivated on my external keyboard [09:40] even 5f 5t w6r2s 6n 0y 3a*t6* [09:41] I updated yesterday and I am testing the unity 5.4 repo [09:41] but still... [09:41] it worked yesterday befor ei left the office... [09:42] let me test the keyboard in another computer [09:43] works on a machine with 11.10 [09:43] as 5t sh643d w5th *rec5ser [09:43] how do I fill this bug? [09:44] External USB lenove Keyboard model SK-8855cannot deactivate NumLock (and it is on by default) [11:35] Guys anyone else having strange errors with the software center ? gives some error , but software installs correctly and with no problems ? Isn't that a bit strange? [12:03] err crap [12:03] ldd isnt working with 32bit executables.. and i get "no such file or directory" when trying to run them [12:07] i must've lost some :i386 stuff.. but i dont know how multi-arch works :( [12:12] if ldd doesn't work, check if you still have libc6:i386 installed [12:13] libc6:i386 : Depends: libgcc1:i386 but it is not going to be installed [12:13] oops :/ [12:13] yeah i was about to install libc-bin:i386.. but thankfully apt pointed out that would be a REALLY bad idea [12:15] ive been having issues with precise mirrors lately not being up to date [12:16] ive switched to one which i thought was more current.. but im not surewhy libgcc1:i386 cant be installed [12:17] I don't know either (I still don't fully understand how the Depends work for multi-arch packages) [12:17] when i try to manually install libgcc1:i386 [12:17] i get a pageful of errors that seem to be relating to java [12:18] maybe i should switch to us mirror ? [12:21] snadge: yep, I think main mirror is the best [12:25] this is the first time i've had issues with using mirrors in a long time [12:26] australian mirrors are dropping the ball at the moment [12:26] hmm.. only 14 to upgrade [12:26] Hello... I updated all alsa packages to 1.0.25 that are now in repositories, but "cat /proc/asound/version" says 1.0.24 ... how is that possible? :D [12:27] Milos_SD: did you restart? [12:27] gah.. now i can install libc6:i386 .. :| .. someone punch whomever is responsible for the mirrors in the face ;) [12:28] Stanley00, offcorse I did (2 times actualy) :) [12:28] Stanley00, maybe they didn't change version report in it :D [12:29] Milos_SD: do you know which package set /proc/asound? [12:31] Milos_SD: ah, maybe I found it, what "dpkg -s alsa-base" show you? [12:32] Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/jLc9ve30 [12:33] Milos_SD: well, then I dont know either... :( [12:33] Stanley00, everything else is at 1.0.25 :D [12:34] and I need to restart pulseaudio after I login to have my ladspa plugin loaded :S [12:35] strange [12:35] :) [12:35] hmm.. okay.. either a) mirrors have reduced their update frequency or b) precise is going ballistic on the updates [12:36] it seems there is a problem mounting SD cards now, this worked at one point: [75592.780744] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [12:36] the mirrors are raping the primary servers.. and are a bit slower on the uptake as a consequence [12:55] someone slap the primary repo maintainer.. and ask them wtf is going on [12:55] why we're seeing stale mirrors atm [12:55] i dont believe all of them are broken at the same time ;) [12:56] we cant all use "Main server" [12:57] internode and iinet (large australian mirrors) are 1 week stale.. wtf.. aarnet is broken (huge mirror) [13:09] !info libreoffice [13:09] libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.5.0~beta2-2ubuntu4 (precise), package size 23 kB, installed size 261 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 armel armhf hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390 s390x sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 all) [13:14] I have a seriously weird problem with my external keyboard [13:15] at work I have a colleague who had a look and was totally surprised (when the guy is a debian dev and was earlier Ubuntu Release manager, that should give you an idea of the strangeness of this issue) [13:15] numlockx off does not help [13:16] when ty*e w5th 0y externa3 2eyb6ard thwe N406c2 5s AWAYS act5vated [13:16] and when I type directly in my laptop, things just work [13:16] This worked yesterday [13:17] How can I fill this bug? I have no idea of where to start.... [13:44] any6ne? [13:45] huayra, what is your problem? [13:47] valdur55, the NumLk seems stuck [13:47] but this only applies to my external keyboard [13:47] suck? [13:47] stuck* [13:47] External USB lenove Keyboard model SK-8855 cannot deactivate NumLock (and it is on by default) [13:47] *Lenovo [13:48] when i take the same keyboard to another machine with 11.10 or earlier it works [13:48] both the whole keyboard and activating deactivating the NumLock [13:48] "numlockx off" did not help [13:49] I really have no idea of what this can be caused by [13:49] huayra, open xev on terminal and check numlock key mapping [13:49] Focus xev vindow and press Numlock key [13:52] interesting [13:52] what you get? [13:52] when I press NumLk in the external USB Keyboard I get one result [13:52] when I press the same on the laptop keyboard nothing happens on xev [13:53] let me try with and without the keyboard attached and I will paste the dump [13:53] ok. and comment you lines ;) [13:54] this dump was *huge* [13:54] let me copy+paste from the terminal [13:55] lol :) no problem... put it on paste.ubuntu.com site [13:55] the thing is that i cannot comment on it [13:55] let me do it again :) [13:56] Hi folks , are there still som issues with upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS , there's a warning here from Feb3 , is this still relevant ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 [13:56] blah... network manager forbids configuring an usb network interface without default route [13:56] oh i thinked- "Keyboard attached" then comes output - "Internatal keyboard press" - output etc.. [13:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/844406/ [13:56] :-/ [13:57] That is from the NumLk (Fn+ScrLk) on my external USB keyboard [13:57] let me try and do it without the keyboard attached [13:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/844412/ [13:59] valdur55, [13:59] hmm... last time network manager got updated is "2012-02-09 07:45:41"? [13:59] this last paste is on my laptop keyboard [14:00] note that I press k and 2 (the same key but with NumLk deactivated and activated) [14:00] but i already configured another usb interface without default route on this system [14:00] odd [14:00] xev does not seem to detect the NumLk activation on my laptop keyboard [14:01] In the previous dump (http://paste.ubuntu.com/844406/) you can see that it detects something when I press the NumLk in the external USB keyboard [14:01] but what happens when you press k2 on External keyboard? [14:01] is that expected behaviour+ [14:01] oh [14:01] :) [14:02] k and 2 :) [14:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/844417/ [14:03] see the difference [14:03] it's still "2" [14:03] But the NumLk on the external keyboard shows some input [14:03] KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:03] root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8279271, (18,-17), root:(1987,36), [14:03] state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES, [14:03] XLookupString gives 0 bytes: [14:03] XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: [14:03] XFilterEvent returns: False [14:03] KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:03] root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8279479, (18,-17), root:(1987,36), [14:03] state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES, [14:04] XLookupString gives 0 bytes: [14:04] XFilterEvent returns: False [14:04] PropertyNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:04] atom 0x154 (XKLAVIER_STATE), time 8279485, state PropertyNewValue [14:04] PropertyNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:04] atom 0x154 (XKLAVIER_STATE), time 8279487, state PropertyNewValue [14:04] In my laptop keyboard the change from NumLk activated toi inactivated does not throw anything at xev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844412/ [14:04] strange or expected behaviour? [14:05] But... you pressed KP_2 , press other 2 [14:06] I did press the k key in both (all) cases [14:06] in which one, the external one? [14:07] all other keys (except from the keys on the numlk) behave as expected [14:07] I did some tests woith the keyboard map layout and confirmed that [14:07] on external and don't use 2 in your numpad [14:08] use key 2 which is near to w [14:08] ok [14:09] MappingNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x0, [14:09] request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 [14:09] KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:09] root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8693047, (482,1039), root:(2452,1092), [14:09] state 0x10, keycode 11 (keysym 0x32, 2), same_screen YES, [14:09] XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2" [14:09] XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2" [14:09] XFilterEvent returns: False [14:09] KeyRelease event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:09] root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8693215, (482,1039), root:(2452,1092), [14:09] state 0x10, keycode 11 (keysym 0x32, 2), same_screen YES, [14:09] XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (32) "2" [14:09] XFilterEvent returns: False [14:09] EnterNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x5400001, [14:09] root 0xbd, subw 0x0, time 8696499, (2,6), root:(1972,59), [14:09] mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear, same_screen YES, [14:09] focus YES, state 16 [14:09] huayra, don't spam! use paste.ubuntu.com [14:10] ok, sorry [14:10] But... does it work with k and 2 ( near w ) [14:11] to sum up [14:13] k and all other keys in the numlock area of my esternal usb keyboard (it has no own num pad lock as it resembles the laptops keyboard) are by default using the NumLk value (i.e. numbers and +- signs) [14:13] It is not possible to deactivate numlk on this keyboard [14:13] although it works normally when connected with other computers [14:13] It worked with yesterday build (at least until for 24 hours ago) [14:14] and after updates last night and this morning the external keyboard is not working [14:14] I mean, it works, but all NumLk keys are only numbers (so no k for me!!??) [14:14] right now I am writing from the laptop keyboard which works find [14:15] How Do I fill this bug? [14:15] it is truly odd... [14:16] dunno.. wait some days and then check again [14:17] but wait... there must be a way to report this bug [14:17] ? [14:17] launchpad [14:17] the only thing I can think of is the onboard keyboard [14:18] I do not know where to report it :) [14:18] I mean which project. Fill it against Ubuntu precise and that's it? [14:18] oh.. yea... i don't know more [14:22] well, thanks for your help valdur55 [14:22] at least whe now have more data :) [14:23] yea :) [14:24] Does anyone else have an issue with gstreamer in +1? I can't get it to install because the dependencies are older dependencies [14:25] cjohnston, give more details... what is old. [14:25] gstreamer0.10 or new version? [14:25] one sec.. compiz just crashed [14:25] I assume its whatever is in the precise repos [14:26] what error do you get? [14:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/844444/ [14:31] update you apt-get repo... and try again... [14:32] im not sure what you are telling me.. its been like this for 2 weeks tho [14:33] sudo apt-get update [14:34] oh.. it's only ffmpeg?? . Use: ubuntu-bug gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg [14:38] is there an easy work around? [14:39] apt-get source package .... make changes and then repack it... :P [14:41] how do i disable apport and get rid of this annoyning "system problem detected" or "xxx has crashed" pop-ups ? [14:44] vega-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-apport follow the instructions and just use disable instead of enable. [14:44] vega-, don't use testing version. Use stable :) [14:45] jokerdino: thanks [14:46] valdur55: is there a rule you can't use +1 even though you don't want to send those reports? or be notified if some trivial program crashes.. [14:46] i don't think so. [14:46] i believe it is your personal preference. [14:46] yep [14:47] but usually, people use +1 to report crashes and bugs. [14:47] no :) . But using older version is one solution ;) . [14:48] disabling the apport should be the recommended solution ;) [14:48] jokerdino, yea :) . [14:48] you can report bugs without apport too you know.. i just find it to be too annoying and intrusive === arand_ is now known as arand [15:28] I use an nvidia card on precise. very often popup menus are drawn transparent, no content, until I move the mouse over them. is this a known issue? [16:28] what will the default email client in Precise be? [16:31] ubuntu-desktop pulls thunderbird now. i guess it will be default. [16:33] where can I get a more definitive answer? [16:34] nowhere [16:35] ok, thanks...thunderbird it is then [16:35] Hi, is that 6 MB increase in the initramfs normal or is it something in my system? [16:35] $ LANG=C ls -lah /boot/init* [16:35] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Feb 6 23:23 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-14-generic-pae [16:35] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20M Feb 15 09:32 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-16-generic-pae === stkrzysiak_ is now known as stkrzysiak [17:02] Hi. I'd like some help (what keywords to google). I want to get rid of the top bar when rdesktop/rdesktop-vrdp is running, or has focus. I'm not sure where to start looking. Is it a matter of hiding the top bar? or telling rdesktop that it should be "on top" of it? or telling rdesktop that the screen is actually as high as it is (rather than vertical size minus the size of the top bar?) Any push in the right direction very much welc [17:06] All the above because remmina seems a little buggy now (doesn't get rid of pop-up menus and combo boxes) and vinagre doesn't send all my keypresses on a poor connection. [17:09] Would that be the top panel? [17:10] charlie-tca: Where the menus and time/date etc appear. [17:10] Yes, that would be called the "top panel" [17:11] probably can google for "top panel" rdesktop ubuntu [17:11] charlie-tca: Thankyou. [17:12] You are welcome, and good luck [17:54] Check this and confirm please Thanks [17:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/933627 [17:54] Launchpad bug 933627 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "You cant change default shortcuts keys + Hot edges are dead too " [Undecided,New] [17:54] afer the last update my numlock is always on [17:55]