[00:20] <bkerensa> popey: LOL
[00:20] <bkerensa> when was that seen?
[00:20] <bkerensa> :D
[00:22] <popey> 5 mins before i posted it
[00:56] <jo-erlend> did you know that the Norwegian handball-team uses Ubuntu as a shout of power when they have timeouts?
[00:58] <jo-erlend> I think that's rather cool. In international championships, that is, and it's televised all around the globe. :)
[00:59] <jono> Ubuntu Accomplishments now awards trophies if you are an Ubuntu Member, developer, or member of a LoCo Team :-)
[00:59] <jono> getting there...
[01:01] <jo-erlend> Things like that actually do mean something. I received an email from Mark Shuttleworth today, with appreciation of things I do. It's really nice to be noticed.
[01:03] <jono> jo-erlend, :-)
[01:03] <jcastro> hey popey
[01:03] <jcastro> everyone told me spotify is awesome
[01:03] <jcastro> but failed to mention the whole facebook logins only thing
[01:03] <jcastro> thanks!
[01:03] <jono> jcastro, is there a Juju charmers team?
[01:03] <jcastro> yep
[01:04] <jono> what team name?
[01:04] <jcastro> http://launchpad.net/~charmers
[01:04] <jo-erlend> jcastro, Spotify is awesome for people who doesn't want to purchase the music from Ubuntu One Music Store. As I understand it, they have the same artists in store.
[01:04] <jcastro> that's for reviewing
[01:04] <jcastro> if you want to check out contributors
[01:04] <jo-erlend> Robert Normann, for instance!
[01:04] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~charm-contributors
[01:05] <jono> jcastro, so charmers approves official charms and charm-contributors is...?
[01:05] <jo-erlend> by the way; wasn't U1MS supposed to be in Rhymthmbox now?
[01:05] <jcastro> people who want to contribute charms but aren't interested in becoming reviewers
[01:05] <jono> jo-erlend, it is here
[01:05] <jo-erlend> jono, it isn't here. Do you know what package provides it?
[01:05] <jono> jcastro, if I add some accomplishments for this will you edit the docs?
[01:06] <jcastro> for sure
[01:06] <jono> jo-erlend, do a apt search for rhythmbox and ubuntuone
[01:06] <jono> I can't remember the package
[01:06] <jono> jcastro, ok, adding now, hang fire
[01:06] <jcastro> jo-erlend: rhythmbox-ubuntuone
[01:07] <jo-erlend> thanks :)
[01:08] <jo-erlend> I'm looking forward to cleaning up this old system. I've moved my root to btrfs and in April I'll start moving my home.
[01:09] <jcastro> is dpkg still slow with btrfs?
[01:10] <jono> jcastro, ok added, one sec
[01:11] <jcastro> jono: hey, so on a related note
[01:12] <jono> oh?
[01:12] <jcastro> jono: how can we connect ubuntu accomplishments with askubuntu badges? I think it'd be nice if they were just mirrored inside your system so when I get a badge on AU it does your magic thing
[01:12] <jcastro> like, display my badges from there in your thing, etc.
[01:12] <jono> jcastro, yeah, we should write a service on the server that just scans AskUbuntu
[01:12] <jono> should be simple enough
[01:12] <jcastro> so when I see my trophy case I have an amalgamation of all of my activity.
[01:13] <jono> jcastro, bzr branch lp:ubuntu-community-accomplishments
[01:13] <jono> jcastro, in there is an 'accomplishments' directory
[01:13] <jono> you should see the Juju ones in there
[01:13] <jono> edit the summary, steps, and links
[01:13] <bkerensa> jono: Any thought on tying all of this into perhaps a site? accomplishments.ubuntu.com with like a leader board? Mozilla does something like this for affiliates
[01:13] <jono> bkerensa, that is part of the idea if it takes off
[01:14] <jono> jcastro, btw, before each step (apart from the first one) add a tab, and then I can add it as bullet points in the main app
[01:14] <jcastro> k
[01:14] <jono> and then just submit a merge proposal and I will merge it in
[01:14] <jono> all the other accomplishment files need better docs too if you are bored
[01:14] <jono> :-)
[01:16] <jo-erlend> hmm.. When playing music from u1ms on rhythmbox, it just did nothing… until I noticed the little text at the top, telling me that mp3 isn't installed with a button to do so.
[01:16] <jo-erlend> that could've been colored.
[01:16] <jcastro> jono: I'm pinging George Edison about connecting AU<->Accomplishments
[01:16] <jcastro> he's pretty awesome at things like this
[01:17] <jono> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6883903115_de0266070c_b.jpg
[01:20] <jcastro> jono: also
[01:20] <jcastro> is it possible to get trophies more than once?
[01:20] <jcastro> so like, could we do "Reviewed 100 merge proposals"
[01:21] <jcastro> and if you do 500 you get 5
[01:21] <bkerensa> jcastro: I added the juju webinar to UWN for next issue
[01:22] <jcastro> <3 thanks!
[01:23] <jono> jcastro, no no!
[01:24] <jono> remember, accomplishments are about experiences, not traffic
[01:24] <jono> 5 trophies for 500 MP could be abused easily
[01:24] <jono> what is morew valuable is "I did my first MP"
[01:24] <jcastro> right, but people reviewing branches is behavior we want.
[01:25] <jono> agreed
[01:25] <jono> I am sure we can think of cool trophies
[01:25] <jono> but I am reluctant to add you did n of this
[01:26] <jcastro> ok
[01:27] <jcastro> hey so, looking at the .accomplishment file
[01:27] <jono> yup
[01:27] <jcastro> that looks like a description, but how are you checking to see if someone is actually done the part.
[01:28] <jcastro> oh nm
[01:28] <jono> that is the script
[01:29] <jono> can see the equivilent script in the scripts/ dir
[01:29]  * jcastro sees that now
[01:29] <jono> :-)
[01:29] <jcastro> hmm, so if it's about experiences maybe instead of 1-1ing each AU badge
[01:29] <jcastro> we can do the top notch ones, like say, the gold ones.
[01:29] <jono> so what is cool is that hackers can write the scripts and then docs folks can write the docs here
[01:29] <jcastro> that don't really have much to do with "doing X of Y Z amount of times"
[01:29] <jono> yeah the AU thing is something we will want to think carefully about
[01:30] <jcastro> so we would want ones like "Asked a question and accepted an answer"
[01:31] <jono> yeah, or asked a question
[01:31] <jono> and another for answered a question
[01:31] <cprofitt> tomorrow night I will go full on Ubuntu at my LUG
[01:31] <cprofitt> going to push askubuntu.com, etc...
[01:31] <jono> as well as trophies for the different roles you earn
[01:31] <jono> cool cprofitt
[01:31] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/badges
[01:31] <cprofitt> seems like I should mention these trophies too
[01:31] <jcastro> so basically, pick the major ones
[01:32] <jcastro> that shouldn't be a problem
[01:35] <bkerensa> cprofitt: It is fun :)
[01:36] <bkerensa> cprofitt: The lugs up here know me as the Ubuntu Evangelist :P but thats because handfuls of each lug use Fedora, Arch, Gentoo and Source Mage
[01:37] <jcastro> I didn't even know sourcemage was still around
[01:37] <cprofitt> well... I have stayed away from doing so since I run my lug
[01:37] <cprofitt> but I feel the need for speed tomorrow
[01:37] <cprofitt> I can't drive 55 :-)
[01:39] <jcastro> sigh, I totally broke my bzr
[01:39] <jcastro> maybe I can get a trophy for "totally sucks at ssh key management."
[01:40] <cprofitt> lol
[01:40]  * cprofitt quickly hammers on some tinfoil and then presents jcastro with a full size trophy
[01:42] <bkerensa> jcastro: Unfortunately ^ one of their devs is the most outspoken haters of Ubuntu in Oregon :P
[01:43] <jcastro> haters be hatin
[01:43] <cprofitt> jcastro: http://tinyurl.com/857ypug
[01:44] <cprofitt> I have a bunch of folks in my lug that have gone full out hate of Unity
[01:44] <cprofitt> and full out hate of Gnome 3
[01:44] <cprofitt> and KDE 4
[01:44] <cprofitt> I am not sure which BSD they are switching too :-)
[01:44] <bkerensa> cprofitt: These people hate on Ubuntu just to hate.... They love trolling sabdfl and Canonical while cheering on Redhat
[01:44] <bkerensa> :P
[01:44] <bkerensa> then I point out they have no local events... No fedora booths :P
[01:45] <cprofitt> bkerensa: depends on where you are... Fedora/Redhat works with the local tech college here
[01:45] <cprofitt> and some of the Fedora Ambassadors are really cool
[01:46] <bkerensa> cprofitt: They do very little here unless trolling on #ORLUG counts as advocating for Fedora/Redhat :P
[01:46] <jono> jcastro, how are you getting on with the docs?
[01:46] <jcastro> which docs?
[01:46] <bkerensa> cprofitt: No doubt... MarkDude is awesome :) and he is ambassador
[01:47] <cprofitt> yep
[01:47] <jono> jcastro, the accomplishments files you were editing
[01:48] <jcastro> I am only reading each one in lp right now, I have some kind of bzr ssh problem that won't even let me check out stuff for some reason
[01:48] <jono> weird
[01:48] <jono> feel free to pastebin the changes
[01:48] <jono> and I can merge them in
[01:50] <jcastro> sure
[01:50] <jono> thanks, pal
[01:50] <nigelb> cprofitt: Aren't you an ambassador as well?
[01:50] <jcastro> jono: first edit is easy, the charm-review one depends on the first one, as you can't review until you've written a charm
[01:50] <jcastro> I don't know the terminlogy
[01:51] <jcastro> depends?
[01:51] <jono> jcastro, oh sweet
[01:51] <jono> this is the first real multi-level dependency
[01:51] <jcastro> perfect.
[01:52] <jono> ok so the charm contributor depends on a LP account
[01:52] <jono> and the reviewer depends on being in the contributors team
[01:52]  * mhall119 is going to have something to show for his 20% time on Friday :)
[01:52] <jono> mhall119, ooooooooh!
[01:52] <cjohnston> new changes to summit mhall119 ?
[01:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: you wish
[01:53] <cjohnston> yup
[01:53] <jono> jcastro, could someone be a reviewer and not be a member of the contributors team?
[01:54] <jcastro> jono: ok so how's this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843865/
[01:55] <jcastro> jono: no, you have to be a contributor first
[01:55] <jono> jcastro, looking good, but I want to include the steps in here
[01:55] <jono> so people can right away what to do
[01:55] <jono> can you add them to the PB and I will merge them in
[01:56] <jono> jcastro, also, this doesnt take markdown
[01:56] <jono> these need to be full HTML links
[01:57] <jono> while you do that jcastro, I am going to eat, back soon
[01:57] <jcastro> hah man
[01:57] <jcastro> everything SHOULD BE MARKDOWN
[01:57] <jono> patches welcome ;-)
[01:57] <jcastro> editing
[01:57] <jono> :-)
[01:58] <jono> brb
[01:58] <jcastro> I am disappointed you didn't do markdown by default
[01:58] <jcastro> it's the new black
[01:58] <cjohnston> i dont like black
[01:58] <jcastro> hmm, my fear is that putting too detailed instructions in description it will fall out of date
[02:01] <jcastro> awesome, went from doing something fun to translating moinmoin to HTML.
[02:01] <jcastro> Kill me
[02:01] <jcastro> I should have kept playing xbox
[02:02] <cjohnston> lol
[02:05] <jcastro> jono: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843873/
[02:05] <jcastro> ok that should be decent enough, when I get back to my PC with working bzr I can clean it up since I'll have to update the URL for the charm store anyway.
[02:20] <mhall119> jono: it's not 100% yet, but it's a start
[02:20] <mhall119> http://paste.ubuntu.com/843888/
[02:21] <mhall119> I still need to work out the packaging details
[02:22] <mhall119> especially around getting things installed into /opt/
[02:27] <jono> mhall119, nice!!!
[02:28] <jono> mhall119, any idea if CanoniStack is back up?
[02:29] <mhall119> jono: I haven't checked it
[02:29] <jono> thanks jcastro
[02:29] <jono> adding now and will send you a screenshot of the output
[02:30] <mhall119> jono: euca-describe-images against canonistack appears to be working
[02:30] <mhall119> euca-describe-instances confirms that my instances are all gone though
[02:30] <jono> mhall119, cool
[02:30] <jono> mhall119, when it is back up would you mind building me an instance again?
[02:30] <jono> and then I will set all the headless U1 stuff up
[02:30] <mhall119> sure
[02:30] <jono> thanks, man
[02:30] <jono> I really appreciate it
[02:31] <jono> jcastro, around?
[02:38] <cprofitt> nigelb: yes I am.
[02:38] <cprofitt> not very active one though
[02:40] <nigelb> :)
[02:40] <nigelb> I had a vague association from some time in BT.
[02:55] <cprofitt> yep
[02:55] <cprofitt> I did it mostly so I could arrange to get CDs for the LUG
[02:56] <cprofitt> man... my blog post about the Global Jam hardly got any hits
[03:11] <mhall119> yay! http://mhall119.com/2012/02/singlet-quickly-better-faster-simpler/
[03:20] <jono> mhall119, woo! reading
[03:21] <jono> nice work!
[03:21] <mhall119> thanks
[03:22] <mhall119> I need to get 'quickly run' and 'quickly debug' working, and then it'll be in a pretty good spot I think
[03:22] <mhall119> then I can drop all that junk from Singlet itself
[03:26] <jono> awesome!
[03:26] <jono> and then we should ensure it packaged ready for 12.04
[03:34] <mhall119> yeah, I'll have to get an FFE for it to be in Universe though
[03:35] <mhall119> hmmm, I suppose it could go through the ARB too, since lenses and scopes created with it don't need to depend on it at runtime
[03:36] <mhall119> but it'll have to install to /usr/share/quickly/, so that might be a problem for the ARB
[03:36] <mhall119> I'll have to talk to didrocks about  that
[03:38] <mhall119> this is awesome, people will be making lenses and scopes like mad
[03:44] <jono> mhall119, cool
[05:59] <duanedesign> jo-erlend: thanks for your help answering ubuntu one questions on askUbuntu
[07:02] <dpm> good morning all
[07:05] <bkerensa> dpm: Good morning
[07:05] <bkerensa> :D
[07:05] <dpm> hey bkerensa :)
[07:06] <bkerensa> dpm: I guess I will also see you tomorrow morning (for me)
[07:06] <bkerensa> :D
[07:06] <dpm> :-)
[07:08] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:20] <bkerensa> Good Night all!
[09:26] <dholbach> I love mixcloud as a service but the ads on there just don't make sense - why would I pay 100$ to get 100 "plays" of a mix I made?
[10:45] <nigelb> AlanBell: Heh, that was an interesting tweet :)
[11:04] <dholbach> huats, we missed having our call yesterday
[11:04] <dholbach> huats, and I'll be too busy this week - so let's talk next week
[11:04] <dholbach> huats, but I think we should both mail a couple of people on our list and both blog about the initiative
[13:44] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:03] <cprofitt> jcastro: dude... where should I start if I want to learn about juju charms?
[14:07] <popey> http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-school-webinar-march-8th/
[14:07] <popey> cprofitt: ^^
[14:08] <cprofitt> danke
[14:11] <mhall119> cprofitt: the easiest way to get started is to bribe jcastro with beer and tacos
[14:12] <mhall119> I don't even think they have to be good, he'll probably work for bud light and taco bell
[14:13] <cprofitt> ah...
[14:13] <cprofitt> I would likely have to travel to Florida though, heh?
[14:13] <mhall119> well yeah, there is that
[14:40] <snap-l> Just have mhall119 deliver them
[14:42] <jcastro> did someone say tacos?
[14:42] <jcastro> http://juju.ubuntu.com/Charms
[14:42] <jcastro> cprofitt: ^
[14:55] <cprofitt> tacos
[15:07] <bkerensa> Good Morning
[15:07] <bkerensa> cprofitt: I had Tacos last night :)
[15:13] <duanedesign> ha! I had tacos as well
[15:13] <jcastro> bkerensa: I dig your interviews man
[15:15] <bkerensa> jcastro: Thanks
[15:16] <cprofitt> bkerensa: nice!
[15:18] <bkerensa> cprofitt: Before I moved across the city there was this "World Foods" store one block from where I lived and they had by far the largest selection of hot sauces I have ever seen... About half a aisle
[15:18] <bkerensa> Ghost Chili.. Haberneros... Chinese Chilis.... Intense stuff
[15:18] <cprofitt> I love my hot sauce
[15:18] <cprofitt> have about 10-20 of them from all over the place
[15:19] <bkerensa> nice
[15:49] <jcastro> dholbach: we have a call today right?
[15:49] <dholbach> jcastro, yep
[15:49] <dholbach> UGJ love
[15:49] <jcastro> hey when jono gets here remember to ask if it's on irc or G+
[15:50] <dholbach> g+ I think
[15:50] <dholbach> but yeah, better ask ;-)
[15:50] <bkerensa> jcastro: G+
[15:50] <cprofitt> G+
[15:51] <cprofitt> 11am
[15:51] <cprofitt> so 10 minutes
[15:51] <bkerensa> 8 minutes
[15:51] <bkerensa> :D
[15:51] <balloons> hehee
[15:51] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:51] <jono> howdy dholbach
[15:51] <jono> dholbach, nice work on the dev update
[15:52] <dholbach> jono, I enjoyed doing something else for a change ;-)
[15:52] <dholbach> jono, and bkerensa did the interview with Robert
[15:52] <dholbach> so a nice team collaboration
[15:52] <jono> dholbach, lol
[15:52] <jono> cool :-)
[15:52] <jono> did you post it to FB and G+ ?
[15:52] <dholbach> yep
[15:53] <jono> to the main Ubuntu FB page?
[15:53] <dholbach> all the @ubuntudev accounts
[15:53] <dholbach> ah no
[15:53] <jono> lets start posting them there every week
[15:53] <jono> do you have access?
[15:53] <dholbach> to G+ I don't
[15:54] <jono> I mean to the FB page
[15:54] <dholbach> ah yes
[15:54] <jono> cool
[15:55] <dholbach> does anyone know how we can have more admins per G+ page?
[15:55] <bkerensa> dholbach: Is there a hard limit?
[15:56] <bkerensa> Perhaps ping Bradley Horowitz on Google+
[15:56] <bkerensa> he is Google's Product Manager for G+
[15:56] <dholbach> bkerensa, I didn't find out how to add a single one :)
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, I figured it out
[15:56] <jono> inviting you now
[15:56] <dholbach> ah yes?
[15:57] <dholbach> there'a page circle of "team members" - is that it?
[15:57] <jono> did you post to FB yet?
[15:57] <dholbach> no, will do in a bit
[15:57] <jono> I will post now
[15:57] <dholbach> just to the @ubuntudev accounts on FB/twitter/G+/identica
[15:57] <jono> I am there
[15:57] <jono> lets keep the main Ubuntu GB/G+ pages in the loop too
[15:57] <dholbach> will do
[15:58] <bkerensa> you guys need a nice python script to hit all the various twitter, facebook and g+ accounts via api :)
[15:58] <jono> bkerensa, indeed
[15:58] <bkerensa> But I think G+ api is still readonly
[15:58] <bkerensa> :(
[15:58] <jono> yup
[16:00] <jono> balloons, dholbach, dpm, jcastro, mhall119, bkerensa, czajkowski, cprofitt, call time, will send an invite now
[16:00] <balloons> your just thinking too small.. build your own api :-)
[16:00] <jono> balloons, lol
[16:00] <czajkowski> jono: on a call with my team
[16:00] <dholbach> balloons, with HTTP POST the world is yours, right?
[16:00] <mhall119> jono: is daker on the invite?
[16:01] <daker> mhall119, can't make it :/
[16:01] <daker> at work
[16:01] <dholbach> bah, is fridge slow for everyone else too?
[16:01] <cprofitt> delayed a minute... be right in
[16:01] <bkerensa> dholbach: Yes epic
[16:02] <balloons> dholbach.. you just have no idea!
[16:02] <mhall119> daker: ping me when  you're home, I'd like to start working on another deployment
[16:02] <daker> sure
[16:02] <mhall119> thanks
[16:02] <czajkowski> cprofitt: can you please either sub the right address to the LC or else send from the one that is subscribed
[16:02] <czajkowski> I have to keep doing it mannually here for you
[16:02] <dpm> jono, I'm there in a minute, webcam still not working well, setting it up on my desktop computer...
[16:02] <balloons> servers are getting tricky now.. rc4'ing there comms, demanding undocumented header values, etc
[16:02] <dholbach> ah, I guess it's slow because Jono posted the dev update on the G+ page :)
[16:03] <mhall119> cprofitt: sent you an invite to the hangout
[16:03] <bkerensa> dholbach:  It is totally down :)
[16:03] <bkerensa> http://www.downornot.com/fridge.ubuntu
[16:03] <jcastro> I'm not seeing a G+ invite at all
[16:05] <jono> dpm, yeah yeah :-)
[16:05] <jono> daker sorry you cant make it
[16:05] <jono> jcastro, let me invite again
[16:05] <bkerensa> jono: none here either
[16:06] <mhall119> bkerensa: PM me your g+ email and I'll invite you
[16:18] <bkerensa> crashed
[16:18] <bkerensa> hmm
[16:19] <balloons> :-(
[16:21] <bkerensa> balloons: I need to sort out my mic situation.... for some reason the mic goes up higher
[16:21] <bkerensa> :(
[16:21] <bkerensa> even when I set it low
[16:22] <balloons> yea, trying to autoadjust your mic i'd guess
[16:33] <bkerensa> ballons: Well I will just toggle on and off as needed (I have it dropped low but I dont think it will obey me)
[16:53] <nigelb> jono: eh, the loco call is at 0430 my time :P
[16:53] <nigelb> *heh
[16:53] <jono> nigelb, slacker :-)
[16:54] <nigelb> haha
[17:00] <dholbach> jono, CC meeting for me
[17:00] <dholbach> jono, see you later
[17:05] <bkerensa> jcastro: For the social media efforts it might be nice if ubuntu-marketing list could be utilized to share event related posts around the web that could then be re-shared
[17:06] <bkerensa> I really think /r/ubuntu and /r/linux are worthwhile efforts
[17:07] <jcastro> indeed
[17:07] <jcastro> we should leverage reddit more
[17:07] <jcastro> there's a ton of people there.
[17:08] <balloons> i have been planning an ama actually
[17:08] <balloons> i've been on the fence about creating a new reddit account or not  :-)
[17:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: Yeah the only thing I can complain about is that because we do have a CoC.... Moderation could be improved to clean up major distro trolling
[17:09] <balloons> so i haven't done it yet
[17:09] <bkerensa> balloons: Reddit is fun in doses
[17:09] <jcastro> the trolling seems to have gotten better
[17:09] <bkerensa> I find news on their sometimes :)
[17:09] <jcastro> by better I mean people aren't being suck jerks
[17:09] <balloons> hehe.. it's worth engaging the community.. I'll go forward with my ama nonetheless
[17:10] <jcastro> I just got reddited 2 blog posts ago and the comments were surprisingly awesome
[17:10] <bkerensa> jcastro: Yeah it was bad for awhile and occasionally some Linux Minters come around looking for opps to convert people :P
[17:11] <bkerensa> jcastro: Yeah Reddit has sent me a few hundreds hit a day for the last few days
[17:11] <bkerensa> :)
[17:11] <bkerensa> Pinterest seems to be picking up fast too
[17:11] <bkerensa> They say its the fastest growing social network
[17:12] <jcastro> jill is on that, it's weird
[17:12] <jcastro> but pretty cool
[17:12] <bkerensa> Yeah I don't totally understand it.... It seems like a notice board for links with photos :P
[17:13] <bkerensa> jcastro: Will juju ever have any swag?
[17:13] <jcastro> yeo
[17:13] <jcastro> it does, tshirts
[17:13] <bkerensa> ahh
[17:13] <bkerensa> :D
[17:14] <jcastro> write a charm, you get a shirt and mug!
[17:14] <bkerensa> jcastro: :P you dont have my size I bet though.... Only PuppetLabs, OpenStack and Eucalyptus have had it so far :P
[17:14] <jcastro> My shirts fit Robbie.
[17:15] <jcastro> Anything short of an original xbox can fit in them
[17:15] <bkerensa> :D
[17:15] <bkerensa> hmm I might have to consider it... I heard you guys need a improved Wordpress charm anyways
[17:16] <jcastro> I need nginx'ed
[17:16] <jcastro> right now it's apache
[17:16] <bkerensa> oh forget that
[17:16] <bkerensa> :D
[17:16] <bkerensa> Apache for the win
[17:16] <jcastro> but I guess that's not leet enough
[17:16] <bkerensa> :D
[17:16] <jcastro> or tweak apache so it's awesome
[17:17] <bkerensa> jcastro: Have to tweak apache and mysql :)
[17:17] <bkerensa> My wordpress install can blow the bricks off any nginx setup :)
[17:17] <jcastro> yeah! You're the kind of guy we want writing juju charms
[17:17] <jcastro> so that everyone who deploys wordpress gets the awesome setup
[17:19] <bkerensa> jcastro: But they also need varnish and a isolated mysql container and CDN :)
[17:19] <jcastro> we have varnish
[17:20] <jcastro> you'd just need to customize the hook to make varnish do exactly what you want when related to wordpress
[17:20] <jcastro> so that's nearly there
[17:20] <bkerensa> nice
[17:21] <pleia2> jam planning people: it would be great if you could keep the loco-contacts mailing list in the loop, I know it's old-style communication but one of the teams in the US emailed me to follow up with my "announcement" about how they could learn more and didn't even realize the new, fancy loco.ubuntu.com page for the jam existed
[17:21] <pleia2> not as fancy as all our social media stuff, but it still is a prime way to get ahold of team contacts :)
[17:25] <bkerensa> :P
[17:25] <pleia2> just trying to be helpful
[17:25] <bkerensa> pleia2: :) loco-contacts what mentioned in the call
[17:25] <bkerensa> was*
[17:28] <cprofitt> pleia2: I will be sending out an email to the first half of the alpha in North America later tonight
[17:28] <cprofitt> randal will be doing the other half
[17:28] <pleia2> "the alpha"?
[17:28] <cprofitt> alphabet
[17:28] <cprofitt> we split North America
[17:29] <pleia2> to the mailing lists?
[17:29] <cprofitt> as far as who will email what teams
[17:29] <cprofitt> I am going straight to the contacts list on loco.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <bkerensa> cprofitt: I already have New Mexico, Idaho and Washington covered
[17:29] <bkerensa> :)
[17:29] <bkerensa> just a heads up
[17:29] <cprofitt> bkerensa: cool... I think the I is on my list...
[17:29] <cprofitt> randall would have the N and W -- though I took NY
[17:29] <pleia2> yeah, california is already aware too
[17:30] <bkerensa> cprofitt: What is Randall's IRC nick?
[17:30] <cprofitt> rrwnexec or some such
[17:30] <cprofitt> rrnwexec
[17:30] <cprofitt> yeah that is it
[17:30] <cprofitt> https://launchpad.net/~rrnwexec
[17:31] <cprofitt> I do not often see him on irc anymore
[17:31] <bkerensa> oh goodness... Nigerian Money Scam on a Ubuntu Mailing List
[17:31] <bkerensa> :(
[17:31] <bkerensa> or something like it perhaps
[17:32] <bkerensa> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg02898.html
[17:32] <bkerensa> not sure if it is legit or not but seems odd
[17:40] <cprofitt> fake
[17:40] <cprofitt> that is a well known scam
[17:41] <cprofitt> usually from a hacked account
[17:41] <Pendulum> I'm a little more concerned by the reply to it that doesn't recognize that it's a scam
[17:45] <bkerensa> cprofitt: looking through archives though that individual does appear to be a contribute or at least was at one point
[17:45] <Pendulum> bkerensa: it's not the person, it's the e-mail content
[17:46] <Pendulum> I've seen almost verbatim content in hacked e-mail accounts
[17:46] <Pendulum> (where I know it was hacked because the person whose account it was contacted everyone in their address book to let them know they'd been hacked)
[17:46] <bkerensa> Pendulum: Yeah... I figured it was :) I wouldnt ask strangers for money if I got mugged in a third world country :P
[17:47] <popey> the scam isnt aimed at strangers
[17:47] <Pendulum> and, now the person has responded saying there was a hack
[17:47] <bkerensa> :D
[17:47] <popey> its aimed at people in yoru address book which is assumed to be your friends
[17:47] <popey> anyway, scam, move on ☺
[17:47] <bkerensa> Should ask if he got hacked while booted into his windows partition :P
[17:47] <bkerensa> popey: k
[17:48] <jcastro> Pici: where can I find info about the bot jam?
[17:49] <koolhead17> mhall119: hey there
[17:49] <Pici> jcastro: At this time, the information is available here, we'll be providing more info as we get closer: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2012-February/001490.html
[17:51] <popey> mmm tasty bot jam
[17:54] <mhall119> hey koolhead17
[17:54] <koolhead17> mhall119: we are planning the global jam over coffee and  snacks without Internet though :)
[17:55] <mhall119> koolhead17: there's no problem with that
[17:55] <mhall119> make sure it's on the loco team portal though
[17:55] <mhall119> plus tweet when you're there, take photos, upload them, use #ubuntu to tag *everything*
[17:56]  * mhall119 thinks "#ubuntu all of the things!" should be our new meme
[17:59] <jono> mhall119, think you could expedite setting my CanoniStack up?
[17:59] <jono> I want to throw it open so some folks can test the accomplishments stuff
[17:59] <jono> balloons,
[18:00] <jcastro> there were issues with the upgrade, they're still working it
[18:00] <jono> balloons, slangasek wants to do some cross-grade testing between 32-bit and 654-bit installs
[18:00] <jono> oops
[18:00] <jono> 64-bit installs
[18:00] <jcastro> 654 bits, brutal.
[18:00] <jono> balloons, can you reach out to him and kick off a testing campaign
[18:00] <jono> jcastro, \m/
[18:00] <jcastro> jono: check this out
[18:00] <jcastro> https://trystack.org/
[18:00] <jcastro> sound familiar?
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, ;-)
[18:01] <mhall119> jono: sure
[18:01] <mhall119> on it now
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, think you can have that outreach ideas doc and try.ubuntu.com plan in place for us to discuss tomorrow?
[18:01] <jono> mhall119, legend!
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, btw
[18:01] <jono> in terms of your Charm docs for the .accomplishment
[18:02] <jono> your docs talked in the context of contributing a charm as opposed to being a member of the team
[18:02] <jono> I think those docs are cool, but is there a way in which we can check in LP if someone contributed a charm?
[18:02] <balloons> hey jono.. hmm cross grade testing?
[18:02] <jcastro> oh so you want it to be about the team then?
[18:02] <balloons> i'll reach out to him
[18:03] <mhall119> jono: smoser-cloud-images/ubuntu-precise-alpha2-amd64-server-20120202.manifest.xml work for you?
[18:03] <jcastro> jono: ack wrt. being ready by tomorrow, I have all the info I just haven't updated the information yet
[18:03] <jono> mhall119, can we use the image as last time? not sure if 64-bit causes issues with U1 headless
[18:03] <bkerensa> dholbach: Is it possible that the LP Privacy Policy might even prohibit such?
[18:03] <jono> balloons, I think this is upgrading between arch...the multi-arch
[18:03] <mhall119> jono: I don't remember the exact image we used last time
[18:03] <jono> balloons, he can explain more
[18:04] <mhall119> was it i386?
[18:04] <dholbach> bkerensa, we're talking about possibilities right now
[18:04] <jono> mhall119, lets try the 64-bit and I will see if it works
[18:04] <dholbach> bkerensa, we need a way to do elections
[18:04] <jono> mhall119, can you use a x86 image?
[18:04] <bkerensa> dholbach: I know :) I didnt want to interrupt
[18:04] <jono> jcastro, cool, lets review the doc tomorrow
[18:04] <dholbach> :)
[18:04] <mhall119> jono: I can use either
[18:04] <jono> then I can discuss in my call with sabdfl on Monday
[18:04] <jono> mhall119, lets do x86
[18:04] <jono> mhall119, thanks!
[18:04] <mhall119> still precise alpha 2?
[18:04] <jono> jcastro, will stick a call in our cal tomorrow to discuss
[18:04] <jono> mhall119, cool
[18:05] <mhall119> well I have one of each now..
[18:05] <bkerensa> jono: Were doing another UGJ call next week right same time?
[18:06] <mhall119> *terminated*
[18:06] <jono> bkerensa, yep
[18:06] <jono> balloons, I added a call for us tomorrow to discuss the consolidation plan and the checkbox stuff
[18:07] <mhall119> hmmm, weird, it's not telling me the IP of the instance...
[18:07] <bkerensa> jono: I know this a long ways off but any thought on making UCADay a Global Event on loco.u.c? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay
[18:08] <jcastro> jono: I thought we have a call on fridays now anyway?
[18:08] <jcastro> ok, either way, woo.
[18:09] <jono> jcastro, I don't see it in my cal
[18:09] <jono> sounds familiar
[18:09] <jono> bkerensa, I agree, I think it should be in there
[18:09] <jcastro> I think we've been winging it
[18:09] <mhall119> bkerensa: ask the lococouncil to add it, they have access
[18:10] <balloons> jono, sounds like a plan.. I'm pushing hard for traction on this stuff.. but it's interesting to see what's been happening as I mix the pot
[18:10] <jono> balloons, cool, I also want to help to manage this influx of testing so you don't have a nervous breakdown :-)
[18:11] <balloons> hehe.. it's fine.. it's a temporary thing
[18:11] <mhall119> jono: the /topic in IS's channel says precise images aren't booting at the moment
[18:11] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[18:11] <dholbach> big hugs
[18:11] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[18:11] <balloons> well.. I mean i hope/know it will grow.. but the non-scalability is temporary
[18:11] <jono> dholbach, night, pal!
[18:11] <balloons> bye dholbach !
[18:11]  * balloons hugs dholbach 
[18:11] <dholbach> :)
[18:11] <mhall119> bye dholbach
[18:11] <jono> balloons, yeah, we can keep an eye on this
[18:12] <jono> and once you have the foundation bits done, balloons, we will have more availability for you
[18:12] <jono> e.g. once you have the processes in palce
[18:12] <jono> place
[18:12] <balloons> did you see the doc I shared on keeping track of everything that's going on?
[18:12] <mhall119> it's 1:15 already? where did today go?
[18:12] <balloons> is that metrics enough for you atm?
[18:12] <bkerensa> cprofitt: Any chance at seeing UCADay on loco.u.c
[18:12] <balloons> whoa.. lunch was missed somewhere in there mhall119 :-)
[18:13] <mhall119> balloons: yeah
[18:13] <mhall119> at least I had my Cheerios
[18:18] <balloons> guess i should have prefixed my comments with jono.. jono, did you see the doc I shared on keeping track of everything that's going on? is that metrics enough for you atm?
[18:18] <mhall119> jono: nvm my previous comments, I was just confused about things
[18:19] <jono> mhall119, we can run a Precise image?
[18:19] <mhall119> jono: yes
[18:20] <jono> mhall119, woo!
[18:20] <jono> thanks
[18:20] <jono> balloons, you mean the doc which lists the queue of things being tested?
[18:21] <balloons> yep.. the one your looking at now :)
[18:22] <jono> balloons, cool, I have a call now but will review properly when I am done
[18:22] <jono> and we can discuss tomorrow too
[18:23] <balloons> great.. I'm with you. I don't want to be looking at that next monday and have a 'deer in headlights' moment again
[18:23] <jono> lol
[18:23] <jono> :-)
[18:23] <jono> thanks, pal
[18:23] <jono> I appreciate the time you are taking on this
[18:24] <balloons> jono, yvw.. it's good :-)
[18:24] <jono> :-)
[19:45] <jono> oh wow, I didn't realize that Chromium downloads show in the Launcher icon progress bar thing
[19:50] <mhall119> I can't remember the last time I had a download take long enough that I would have noticed
[19:50] <jono> hehe
[19:50] <jono> I am downloading an ISO
[19:51] <jono> mhall119, can you add the Unity Launcher progress bar as a column in your upstream targets list?
[19:51] <mhall119> sure
[19:51] <jono> thanks
[19:52] <mhall119> jono: I'm making it generic "Launcher", since it can be either progress or numeric indicators
[20:16] <jono> mhall119, cool
[20:17] <mhall119> jo-erlend: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0ODk nice!
[20:28] <jcastro> hey Daviey
[20:45] <Daviey> hey mr castro
[20:45] <Daviey> jcastro:
[20:45] <jcastro> hey did you apply for a trystack.org account?
[20:45] <jcastro> anyone owe you any favors? I would like to get a "Running juju on trystack" page started
[20:46] <jcastro> basically, what we talked about yesterday -- we can do that on this thing they got running
[20:52] <jcastro> Daviey: ^
[20:57] <Daviey> right
[21:31] <akgraner> balloons, yanked the HD to send to Collin once I get the new one installed (tomorrow am) I can start testing.
[21:32] <balloons> akgraner, hehe.. +1 for linux being hardware agnostic
[21:33] <akgraner> curiosity on this one got the better of me - I am dieing to know what the heck happened.
[21:35] <mhall119> akgraner: kill a harddrive?
[21:35] <akgraner> mhall119, yep on an update
[21:36] <akgraner> some kinda libc6 error that won't let me do anything b/c dependencies are screwed up - cjwatson was helping me but it's so borked that he can't even ssh into it
[21:40] <akgraner> so since that's the first time in 3 years I've had an error on an update that we can't get back to a good state it might be interesting to dissect it, but I know he has a tone of other stuff to do as well - so I am sending this with no expectation of a quick turnaround.
[21:56] <akgraner> dang it - somehow all my downloads are being opened by default with gimp - this includes libreoffice files and more.  I have absolutely no clue I set this to do this.  Anyone know how to change this or where to change this at.
[21:57] <balloons> firefox or chromium or ?
[21:57] <akgraner> from my downloads folder in my home directory
[21:57] <akgraner> I changed it in the browsers
[21:58] <balloons> i'm confused.. after you download the file it's opening in gimp?
[21:58] <akgraner> but now if I go to my downloads folder in my home directory it trys to open everything there with gimp
[21:58] <balloons> ahh
[21:58] <balloons> right click and hit properties
[21:58] <akgraner> on each file?
[21:58] <balloons> see the open with tab?
[21:58] <balloons> you can change it there
[21:59] <balloons> it's set for each file type association
[21:59] <akgraner> ahh ok
[22:00] <balloons> have a look at this file:/usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[22:00] <balloons> it controls all that goodness
[22:00] <mhall119> wow akgraner, you're being very destructive on installs lately
[22:00] <akgraner> gotcha
[22:00] <mhall119> you sure you're not on the QA team?
[22:01] <akgraner> I've been told the only QA person I can interact with is on jono
[22:01] <akgraner> jono's team
[22:01] <akgraner> balloons, you can thank pgraner next time you see him...thank you I think it's fixed now
[22:02] <mhall119> akgraner: what, are all the other QA people afraid?
[22:02] <balloons> lol.. you get to interact with him only eh? good luck with that
[22:02] <balloons> mhall119, yes, she's a wonderful tester.. she is excellent at breaking things
[22:03] <balloons> but, lol, people don't always want things to be broken.. it's more like looking for an everything's good..
[22:04] <akgraner> mhall119, they aren't afraid of anything, pgraner is afraid to let me near them I think he's looking after them I think :-)
[22:04] <mhall119> akgraner: it would be bad for the company if they all quit :)
[22:04] <balloons> mhall119, i feel out of my chair again
[22:04] <akgraner> :-P
[22:04] <balloons> *fell
[22:05] <balloons> mhall119, is that part of your goals for the week -- caused me to fall down? hehe.. your so good at it.. the one-liners.. so painfully funny
[22:05] <akgraner> :-)
[22:05] <mhall119> I eat a full serving of snarky-os every morning
[22:07] <mhall119> balloons: the great thing about akgraner is that her bug reports have a charming southern accept that just keep you wanting more
[22:08] <technoviking> ok good to precise on bare metal
[22:08] <cjohnston> i attached a video to a bug report today
[22:08] <akgraner> mhall119, I think I resemble that remark.  :-P
[22:08] <balloons> nice.. i don't think i've had the privilege of perusing her reports yet..
[22:09] <akgraner> I need to file more bugs, but sometimes now when I get pissed about something I throw things at the person in the other office.  No wonder he likes to travel.  Now he tells me, don't look at me file a bug.
[22:09] <cjohnston> i try not to write yall in bug reports
[22:09] <cjohnston> lol
[22:10] <technoviking> and installer dies :(
[22:14] <mhall119> akgraner: I got this from Michelle the other day, when she was complaining about something not working right in Unity: "And don't tell me to file a bug report, you work for them, so I just did!"
[22:16] <akgraner> mhall119, that's polite compared to some of the things I've said to someone here
[22:17] <mhall119> akgraner: I bet it's a bad day in the Graner household when you get a kernel panic
[22:17] <akgraner> and still he sends me to find more information and try to fix it myself, find someone else to help or file a bug and says, "you wanna be technical right?"
[22:19] <akgraner> at least when working with tip builds are ARM boards, there is no expectation of it's perfect.  Heck if it boots the first time it's cause for celebration :-)
[22:19] <akgraner> s/are/on
[22:39] <pleia2> speaking of falling out of one's chair "Similar to" @1990sLinuxUser lists @mpt ;)
[22:40] <mhall119> pleia2: ?
[22:41] <pleia2> mhall119: was just following a link on jcastro's blog to a funny twitter user
[22:41] <pleia2> twitter has a recommended thing for users simliar to the one you're looking at
[22:42] <mhall119> ah, yeah
[23:01] <technoviking> jcastro: is there a proper way to get two screen working in precise with an nvidia crd
[23:21] <akgraner> Does Jenkins rate up there with Launchpad and Bazaar?  I guess I am trying to figure out if I should mention it and how it's being used in the QA Lab...
[23:22] <akgraner> to.many.changes.
[23:54] <jono> akgraner, Jenkins is entirely different to LP and Bzr
[23:54] <jono> it is like comparing apples and oranges
[23:54] <akgraner> jono, yep I know now
[23:54] <akgraner> :-)
[23:55] <jono> :-)
[23:55] <akgraner> someone here just explained that to me in a slighly more wtf way