| Canadian1296 | Ubottu told me to ask here for a ubuntu cloak… I already have an account registered with NickServ | 01:16 |
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| ubottu | Canadian1296: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 01:16 |
| Canadian1296 | I wasn't trying to send a message to Ubottu, can anyone help? | 01:17 |
| Canadian1296 | I currently have a generic freenode cloak. May I please have a Ubuntu cloak instead? | 02:05 |
| EvilResistance | Canadian1296, if i'm not mistaken, Ubuntu cloaks are reserved for Ubuntu members... | 02:05 |
| Canadian1296 | Meaning? | 02:06 |
| EvilResistance | !member | 02:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 02:06 |
| EvilResistance | ^ that | 02:06 |
| Canadian1296 | EvilResistance: Okay, thanks anyways :) | 02:06 |
| EvilResistance | i'm not the IRC team, though, if there's other methods for an ubuntu cloak they'd know | 02:06 |
| EvilResistance | i'm only aware of the members status getting you a cloak (there's probably others) | 02:07 |
| Canadian1296 | EvilResistance: Okay, I'm reading the membership article in the wiki now | 02:08 |
| pangolin | EvilResistance: The only way of getting a Ubuntu member cloak is describe in that link. | 02:26 |
| pangolin | described* | 02:27 |
| EvilResistance | pangolin, indeed. i was curious about the other cloaks, becuase the person that asked is asking for an "ubuntu cloak" not necessarily a member cloak, hence why i said "I'm not the IRC team" | 02:27 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 02:27 |
| Unit193 | Member of Kubuntu, DMB, IRC, RMB... | 02:28 |
| pangolin | there are no other "ubuntu cloaks", you either are a member or you aren't. | 02:28 |
| EvilResistance | thats what i thought :P | 02:28 |
| EvilResistance | pangolin, ^ | 02:28 |
| pangolin | there are different membership boards as Unit193 pointed out. | 02:29 |
| pangolin | but they all get you the same thing | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | But all leading to membership nonetheless. | 02:29 |
| jussi | pangolin: actually, thats not strictly true... we have bot cloaks also :P | 12:23 |
| pangolin | #ubuntu-bugs is missing a bot | 18:47 |
| pangolin | charlie-tca: which bot is missing? | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | The one that gives us the bug info, but I don't know the name of the bot | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | bug numbers won't give back a link yesterday and today | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | pangolin: should it be ubottu? I haven't been around enough to keep track of what is happening with them. It used to be ubot2, I think | 18:51 |
| pangolin | probably best to wait for one of the IRCC to figure it out, maybe jussi knows? | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 18:53 |
| jussi | you all really should look at the bots page on the wiki occaisionally :) | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | Can't even remember the webpage. | 18:54 |
| jussi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | but if it will get the bot back in #ubuntu-bugs, I will go find it | 18:54 |
| jussi | ubot2 -> Team channels A-L | 18:55 |
| jussi | so go bug jpds | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, thanks | 18:55 |
| EvilResistance | question about that page jussi, if one runs a bot for a LoCo team's channel, does the IRC team need to update that page, or can the bot owner update that page with the relevant bot information? | 18:56 |
| jussi | EvilResistance: its a wiki, go do it already ;) | 18:56 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 18:56 |
| pangolin | jussi: sorry :( but you know everything so I tend to default to "Ask jussi" | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | I am most grateful for jussi knowing everything, too! | 18:58 |
| pangolin | see :) | 18:58 |
| pangolin | charlie-tca: we should setup a askjussi.com | 18:59 |
| pangolin | hehe | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | heh, that would be a busy site | 18:59 |
| pangolin | we could pay jussi 1 penny per answer (helpful answers) and make a fortune!!! | 19:01 |
| EvilResistance | lol | 19:01 |
| jussi | meh. Id end up with about 2 pence | 19:02 |
| jussi | unless every question was, "if you arent a finn, why is your name jussi?" | 19:02 |
| pangolin | it would require jussi relocates to Brazil | 19:02 |
| pangolin | why brazil you ask? because umm why not :) | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | I see no problem with that | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | at least Brazil is warm :-) | 19:06 |
| jussi | warmth? yök!! | 19:08 |
| EvilResistance | o.O | 19:30 |
| EvilResistance | i hit "save changes" after previewing, and a 500 error triggered o.O | 19:30 |
| Myrtti | what are you using to generate the statistics, EvilResistance? | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | mircstats or pisg? | 20:32 |
| EvilResistance | Myrtti: generic supybot ChannelStats plugin | 20:33 |
| Myrtti | interesting | 20:33 |
| EvilResistance | Myrtti: it doesnt actually hit any web-page like logging | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | ooh another volunteer :) | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | EvilResistance: so can you get it to scrape logs from irclogs.ubuntu.com instead? | 20:33 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: that'd be a lot harder... not without about 85 hours of plugin dev, unless one of you can find a plugin that does that | 20:34 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: my main concern is less the stats, more the private logging | 20:34 |
| popey | why do you need private logging of #ubuntu when we already publicly log it? | 20:34 |
| EvilResistance | because my ZNC has officially become unreliable for scrollbacks in #ubuntu | 20:34 |
| popey | I mean, I can understand why ops need instant backscroll of #ubuntu, but don't quite fathom why anyone else does. | 20:36 |
| AlanBell | got an example of the stats output EvilResistance? | 20:36 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: one sec | 20:36 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: the exact same module, loaded in #ubuntu-us-pa (but allows in-channel requesting, which is not allowed in evidence): | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> @channelstats | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | <PennBot> EvilResistance: On # there have been 358 messages, containing 11312 characters, 1921 words, 5 smileys, and 11 frowns; 11 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 17 joins, 4 parts, 0 quits, 0 kicks, 3 mode changes, and 1 topic change. | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | blah, hang on | 20:37 |
| AlanBell | Sebastien made an almost identical request a day or two ago to have a bot to make these kind of stats http://chanstats.x10.mx/ubuntu.freenode.html | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | oops | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | one sec. | 20:37 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: this is a better example: | 20:38 |
| EvilResistance | <@EvilResistance> @channelstats | 20:38 |
| EvilResistance | <@TheMightyKahless> EvilResistance: On #trekweb there have been 2 messages, containing 0 characters, 0 words, 0 smileys, and 0 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 1 join, 0 parts, 2 quits, 0 kicks, 1 mode change, and 0 topic changes. | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | I think we probably could have a regular stream of people asking for read-only bots sitting in ubuntu making channel stats | 20:38 |
| EvilResistance | that's from the identical module in #trekweb | 20:38 |
| EvilResistance | (i have a glitch in PennBot which uses shared-channel modules, i'm in the process of fixing it) | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | oh, so you are not generating graphical statistical summaries? | 20:39 |
| EvilResistance | negative | 20:39 |
| EvilResistance | only on-demand textual descriptors | 20:39 |
| EvilResistance | absolutely no graphical stats summaries | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | so it is totally fine for you to make private logs from your client, or use an irssi+screen proxy that logs etc | 20:39 |
| EvilResistance | alright (if i have to i'll do that, but irssi has a horrible notorious crappy-logging-to-file system) | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | for people wanting to use the data for statistical purposes I would kind of rather they were pointing at the public logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | otherwise your stats will be skewed by about 30 different stats bots stat in the channel! | 20:41 |
| Sebastien | Update Available at: http://chanstats.x10.mx/ubuntu-irc.freenode.html | 20:43 |
| Sebastien | :) | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | EvilResistance: Actually, it's quite good and the official log bot for ubuntu is irssi. | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | so I don't think anyone minds you putting in a silent bot and I do appreciate you asking, but what I really want is a bunch of folk to get together in #ubuntu-bots-team to build something that will generate awesome stats for all our logged channels going back to 2004 | 20:44 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: hehe, i hear you. i dont have a solution for that, unfortunately. But if i come up wiht one, expect me to say "eureka!" in here or something :P | 20:44 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: i dont think a plugin would do that though, i think you'd have to develop a parser script or something, and that can be tricky if you have tons of logs (which #ubuntu does have) | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | !info pisg | 20:45 |
| ubottu | pisg (source: pisg): Perl IRC Statistics Generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.72-1 (oneiric), package size 216 kB, installed size 1024 kB | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | ^^ that plus some scripts to slowly scrape the logs would be great | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | plus some whizzy modern css to make it look lovely | 20:46 |
| EvilResistance | hehe | 20:46 |
| Tm_T | pisg is that which runs ages for stats? | 20:46 |
| Tm_T | compared to just few seconds | 20:47 |
| AlanBell | and not just #ubuntu, all of these: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/02/16/ | 20:47 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: i'll take a look in the next, say, 4 months :P | 20:47 |
| AlanBell | Tm_T: a few seconds for what? | 20:47 |
| Tm_T | AlanBell: I mean time used for generating the statistics | 20:48 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: in the mean time, is there any objection to me putting the silent bot into #ubuntu, or do you guys want to deliberate more? | 20:48 |
| AlanBell | EvilResistance: no objection, does it have a cloak? | 20:48 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: yeah, its sharing the cloak that pennbot has (otherwise i'd have more-than-one bot account that isnt affiliated with a specific group), unaffiliated/resistance/bot/pennbot | 20:49 |
| AlanBell | ideally can you put something visible in /whois that links it back to you | 20:49 |
| AlanBell | that will do | 20:49 |
| EvilResistance | * [evidence] (~evidence@unaffiliated/resistance/bot/pennbot): Evidence - Stats / Log bot for Resistance <-- ? | 20:49 |
| EvilResistance | erm | 20:49 |
| AlanBell | fine | 20:49 |
| EvilResistance | minus the log part | 20:49 |
| EvilResistance | i have to reconnect it to fix that ;p | 20:50 |
| EvilResistance | AlanBell: its sitting there now, thanks again/ | 20:55 |
| EvilResistance | :) | 20:55 |
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