[01:16] Ubottu told me to ask here for a ubuntu cloak… I already have an account registered with NickServ [01:16] Canadian1296: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:17] I wasn't trying to send a message to Ubottu, can anyone help? [02:05] I currently have a generic freenode cloak. May I please have a Ubuntu cloak instead? [02:05] Canadian1296, if i'm not mistaken, Ubuntu cloaks are reserved for Ubuntu members... [02:06] Meaning? [02:06] !member [02:06] Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [02:06] ^ that [02:06] EvilResistance: Okay, thanks anyways :) [02:06] i'm not the IRC team, though, if there's other methods for an ubuntu cloak they'd know [02:07] i'm only aware of the members status getting you a cloak (there's probably others) [02:08] EvilResistance: Okay, I'm reading the membership article in the wiki now [02:26] EvilResistance: The only way of getting a Ubuntu member cloak is describe in that link. [02:27] described* [02:27] pangolin, indeed. i was curious about the other cloaks, becuase the person that asked is asking for an "ubuntu cloak" not necessarily a member cloak, hence why i said "I'm not the IRC team" [02:27] :P [02:28] Member of Kubuntu, DMB, IRC, RMB... [02:28] there are no other "ubuntu cloaks", you either are a member or you aren't. [02:28] thats what i thought :P [02:28] pangolin, ^ [02:29] there are different membership boards as Unit193 pointed out. [02:29] but they all get you the same thing [02:29] But all leading to membership nonetheless. [12:23] pangolin: actually, thats not strictly true... we have bot cloaks also :P [18:47] #ubuntu-bugs is missing a bot [18:47] charlie-tca: which bot is missing? [18:48] The one that gives us the bug info, but I don't know the name of the bot [18:49] bug numbers won't give back a link yesterday and today [18:51] pangolin: should it be ubottu? I haven't been around enough to keep track of what is happening with them. It used to be ubot2, I think [18:52] probably best to wait for one of the IRCC to figure it out, maybe jussi knows? [18:53] Okay [18:53] you all really should look at the bots page on the wiki occaisionally :) [18:54] Can't even remember the webpage. [18:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [18:54] but if it will get the bot back in #ubuntu-bugs, I will go find it [18:55] ubot2 -> Team channels A-L [18:55] so go bug jpds [18:55] Okay, thanks [18:56] question about that page jussi, if one runs a bot for a LoCo team's channel, does the IRC team need to update that page, or can the bot owner update that page with the relevant bot information? [18:56] EvilResistance: its a wiki, go do it already ;) [18:56] :P [18:58] jussi: sorry :( but you know everything so I tend to default to "Ask jussi" [18:58] I am most grateful for jussi knowing everything, too! [18:58] see :) [18:59] charlie-tca: we should setup a askjussi.com [18:59] hehe [18:59] heh, that would be a busy site [19:01] we could pay jussi 1 penny per answer (helpful answers) and make a fortune!!! [19:01] lol [19:02] meh. Id end up with about 2 pence [19:02] unless every question was, "if you arent a finn, why is your name jussi?" [19:02] it would require jussi relocates to Brazil [19:02] why brazil you ask? because umm why not :) [19:04] I see no problem with that [19:06] at least Brazil is warm :-) [19:08] warmth? yök!! [19:30] o.O [19:30] i hit "save changes" after previewing, and a 500 error triggered o.O [20:32] what are you using to generate the statistics, EvilResistance? [20:32] mircstats or pisg? [20:33] Myrtti: generic supybot ChannelStats plugin [20:33] interesting [20:33] Myrtti: it doesnt actually hit any web-page like logging [20:33] ooh another volunteer :) [20:33] EvilResistance: so can you get it to scrape logs from irclogs.ubuntu.com instead? [20:34] AlanBell: that'd be a lot harder... not without about 85 hours of plugin dev, unless one of you can find a plugin that does that [20:34] AlanBell: my main concern is less the stats, more the private logging [20:34] why do you need private logging of #ubuntu when we already publicly log it? [20:34] because my ZNC has officially become unreliable for scrollbacks in #ubuntu [20:36] I mean, I can understand why ops need instant backscroll of #ubuntu, but don't quite fathom why anyone else does. [20:36] got an example of the stats output EvilResistance? [20:36] AlanBell: one sec [20:37] AlanBell: the exact same module, loaded in #ubuntu-us-pa (but allows in-channel requesting, which is not allowed in evidence): [20:37] <EvilResistance> @channelstats [20:37] <PennBot> EvilResistance: On # there have been 358 messages, containing 11312 characters, 1921 words, 5 smileys, and 11 frowns; 11 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 17 joins, 4 parts, 0 quits, 0 kicks, 3 mode changes, and 1 topic change. [20:37] blah, hang on [20:37] Sebastien made an almost identical request a day or two ago to have a bot to make these kind of stats http://chanstats.x10.mx/ubuntu.freenode.html [20:37] oops [20:37] one sec. [20:38] AlanBell: this is a better example: [20:38] <@EvilResistance> @channelstats [20:38] <@TheMightyKahless> EvilResistance: On #trekweb there have been 2 messages, containing 0 characters, 0 words, 0 smileys, and 0 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 1 join, 0 parts, 2 quits, 0 kicks, 1 mode change, and 0 topic changes. [20:38] I think we probably could have a regular stream of people asking for read-only bots sitting in ubuntu making channel stats [20:38] that's from the identical module in #trekweb [20:38] (i have a glitch in PennBot which uses shared-channel modules, i'm in the process of fixing it) [20:39] oh, so you are not generating graphical statistical summaries? [20:39] negative [20:39] only on-demand textual descriptors [20:39] absolutely no graphical stats summaries [20:39] so it is totally fine for you to make private logs from your client, or use an irssi+screen proxy that logs etc [20:41] alright (if i have to i'll do that, but irssi has a horrible notorious crappy-logging-to-file system) [20:41] for people wanting to use the data for statistical purposes I would kind of rather they were pointing at the public logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com [20:41] otherwise your stats will be skewed by about 30 different stats bots stat in the channel! [20:43] Update Available at: http://chanstats.x10.mx/ubuntu-irc.freenode.html [20:43] :) [20:43] EvilResistance: Actually, it's quite good and the official log bot for ubuntu is irssi. [20:44] so I don't think anyone minds you putting in a silent bot and I do appreciate you asking, but what I really want is a bunch of folk to get together in #ubuntu-bots-team to build something that will generate awesome stats for all our logged channels going back to 2004 [20:44] AlanBell: hehe, i hear you. i dont have a solution for that, unfortunately. But if i come up wiht one, expect me to say "eureka!" in here or something :P [20:45] AlanBell: i dont think a plugin would do that though, i think you'd have to develop a parser script or something, and that can be tricky if you have tons of logs (which #ubuntu does have) [20:45] !info pisg [20:45] pisg (source: pisg): Perl IRC Statistics Generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.72-1 (oneiric), package size 216 kB, installed size 1024 kB [20:46] ^^ that plus some scripts to slowly scrape the logs would be great [20:46] plus some whizzy modern css to make it look lovely [20:46] hehe [20:46] pisg is that which runs ages for stats? [20:47] compared to just few seconds [20:47] and not just #ubuntu, all of these: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/02/16/ [20:47] AlanBell: i'll take a look in the next, say, 4 months :P [20:47] Tm_T: a few seconds for what? [20:48] AlanBell: I mean time used for generating the statistics [20:48] AlanBell: in the mean time, is there any objection to me putting the silent bot into #ubuntu, or do you guys want to deliberate more? [20:48] EvilResistance: no objection, does it have a cloak? [20:49] AlanBell: yeah, its sharing the cloak that pennbot has (otherwise i'd have more-than-one bot account that isnt affiliated with a specific group), unaffiliated/resistance/bot/pennbot [20:49] ideally can you put something visible in /whois that links it back to you [20:49] that will do [20:49] * [evidence] (~evidence@unaffiliated/resistance/bot/pennbot): Evidence - Stats / Log bot for Resistance <-- ? [20:49] erm [20:49] fine [20:49] minus the log part [20:50] i have to reconnect it to fix that ;p [20:55] AlanBell: its sitting there now, thanks again/ [20:55] :)