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| * micahg wonders how tumbleweed got cairo-dock-foo to build | 05:34 | |
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| benonsoftware | This is proberly a silly question but if I wanted to package a Java program could I just folllow the Packaging Guide? | 08:06 |
|---|---|---|
| geser | sure | 08:07 |
| benonsoftware | geser: Thanks | 08:08 |
| geser | just make sure that you recompile any .jar files instead of using the prebuild upstream ones | 08:08 |
| benonsoftware | Ok, thank you very much | 08:09 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: given its dependencies, it gave me no trouble (they're in NEW) | 08:50 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: ah, I looked :) | 08:50 |
| micahg | didn't see them there, but I trust you | 08:50 |
| tumbleweed | otoh, bug 923688 is pretty high on the annoyance list atm | 08:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 923688 in bzr-builddeb (Ubuntu) "bzr crashed with AttributeError in tree_unapply_patches(): 'DirStateRevisionTree' object has no attribute 'last_revision'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923688 | 08:51 |
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| azeem | so how many hours till feature freeze, or is it frozen already? | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | 2100UTC | 11:31 |
| azeem | thx | 11:31 |
| azeem | requestsyncs from Debian NEW are not possible, right? | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | I don't think they are, because it's not accessible | 11:32 |
| micahg | well, the only way they certainly are | 11:34 |
| micahg | s/only/old/ | 11:34 |
| ajmitch | if you've got the source package itself, then it's possible | 11:35 |
| micahg | you can dget from NEW | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | oh you can now? | 11:36 |
| * ajmitch guesses it's been this way for awhile :) | 11:36 | |
| * micahg thinks you can at least | 11:37 | |
| Laney | ubuntu new, yeah | 11:52 |
| Laney | actually that might be the case in which you still need dgetlp | 11:53 |
| Laney | there is still one, I forget what it is | 11:53 |
| micahg | Laney: no, was referring to Debian NEW | 11:53 |
| Laney | but debian new, no I don't think so | 11:53 |
| Laney | even if I ssh to ries I can't access the files | 11:54 |
| micahg | hmm, must have been confusing it with something else | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | you can get thnigs from incoming.debian.org, but that's not NEW | 12:10 |
| tumbleweed | and of course, many packages are in VCS... | 12:10 |
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| Laney | I would much prefer people to wait and FFE than do fakesyncs | 13:11 |
| * tumbleweed too | 13:12 | |
| tumbleweed | btw, any opinions on the tesseract FFe? Its in the grey area for me | 13:13 |
| tumbleweed | much better OCR, but have to remove a reverse-dep | 13:13 |
| Laney | will look later | 13:14 |
| * Laney begins writing an annoucement of the uninstallable packages challenge | 13:20 | |
| Laney | http://debian.titanpad.com/7 | 13:20 |
| tumbleweed | err, requires login | 13:22 |
| Laney | i made it public | 13:22 |
| Laney | and I am editing it without being logged in right now | 13:22 |
| tumbleweed | aha | 13:23 |
| Laney | yah boo | 13:23 |
| Laney | nigelb deleted his blog post for the ftbfs jam | 13:23 |
| Laney | oh, no, just broke old links | 13:23 |
| Laney | (or the link in tumbleweed's original email was wrong :P) | 13:24 |
| * tumbleweed refuses to beleive that possibility | 13:25 | |
| Laney | hmm | 13:25 |
| Laney | the graphs aren't that convincing that the jam made a difference | 13:25 |
| tumbleweed | we were at ~300 FTBFS packages at the time... | 13:27 |
| Laney | as in | 13:28 |
| Laney | there's a steady downward trend that seemed to start before the jam happened | 13:28 |
| tumbleweed | we got one or two new people in, working on it. And they mostly evaporated again | 13:29 |
| * tumbleweed discovers a qa-ftbfs cronjob still running on his server, and kills it | 13:30 | |
| Laney | is there a better link for oneiric-historical.html? | 13:32 |
| tumbleweed | no, I couldn't find one | 13:32 |
| Laney | didn't know if it moved to ubuntuwire | 13:33 |
| tumbleweed | it did, but not at that time | 13:33 |
| tumbleweed | http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/ | 13:33 |
| Laney | huh, sub-50? | 13:33 |
| tumbleweed | primary archive, not rebuilds | 13:34 |
| Laney | i suppose the archive rebuild would be worse | 13:34 |
| Laney | but still that's better than i would have necessarily thought | 13:34 |
| tumbleweed | wgrant isn't using my graph additions in his rebuild-ftbfs-test reports | 13:34 |
| tumbleweed | (poke poke) | 13:35 |
| tumbleweed | I don't think we should do automated bug filing for the uninstallability issues, just for the jam. So collaborate with an etherpad? | 13:37 |
| Laney | ye | 13:38 |
| adhorden | Hi all, having a few issues updating a package for Precise, build log is here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/93036528/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.ruby-rvm_1.10.2-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz, i am getting permission errors but not sure where to look to get to the bottom of the problem | 13:46 |
| Laney | you can't write to the 'real' filesystem when building a package; make the build system install to pkgbuilddir/debian/tmp | 13:48 |
| tumbleweed | adhorden: it's no trespecting the DESTDIR provided | 13:48 |
| tumbleweed | also, it should not be installing to usr/local at all | 13:49 |
| Laney | it's probably a broken install script in this case | 13:49 |
| adhorden | Laney: this is what I was thinking the install script seems to be breaking things here, might have to hack that up so that it uses DESTDIR | 13:54 |
| Laney | yes, that is the standard interface | 13:55 |
| adhorden | I was thinking this would be an easy script to package up, its been nothing but headaches | 13:55 |
| Laney | life is made much easier when people use standard build systems | 13:56 |
| tumbleweed | ruby packages also seem to have that affect on people | 13:56 |
| Laney | i have still managed to avoid it completely | 13:57 |
| * tumbleweed too | 13:57 | |
| adhorden | yup, and in this case rvm does not use a standard build system it uses its own install shell script | 13:57 |
| tumbleweed | I thought iamfuzz promisdet o look after rvm? (I seem to remember being hesitant to want it in the archive at all) | 13:58 |
| adhorden | not sure who the maintainer is, there was a bug in the package so I took a look into it and bumped the upstream version as it was really out of date, I was going to submit my patches to bring it upto date | 14:01 |
| tumbleweed | adhorden: ubuntu packages don't have maintainers, and this one needs some maintainance | 14:02 |
| adhorden | ah right, well I am taking a look into it as I am using precise on my systems at present and would be nice to have a native working package for rvm | 14:02 |
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| pabelanger | tumbleweed: re: bug 408757, I talked to the upstream maintainer and they don't have a problem with what you suggested. I already submitted the patch into Debian, working on updating the debdiff | 15:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408757 in nsca (Ubuntu) "init sscript has no Usage option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408757 | 15:47 |
| pabelanger | it's actually bug 897006 but the debdiff is in the other issue (trying to close both of them in one shot( | 15:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 897006 in nsca (Ubuntu) "Build nsca-client package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897006 | 15:48 |
| tumbleweed | we've got through "grave" in rcbugs. It'd be nice if we could get through all the serious bugs that are fixed in new upstream versions, but that's a lot for one evening :P | 16:01 |
| nigelb | Laney: I did? Looking | 16:29 |
| Laney | nigelb: nah, I think it was a wrong link in the initial mail | 16:29 |
| nigelb | ah, quite possible. | 16:29 |
| nigelb | Laney: http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/06/27/fix-ftbfs-jam.html | 16:30 |
| Laney | the link said /07/ | 16:31 |
| tumbleweed | draft maybe? | 16:32 |
| nigelb | Hrm, interesting. | 16:33 |
| tumbleweed | ok, I'm through all the low-hanging serious-severity rcbugs that are fixed with new upstream versions (well, one still test-buliding) | 16:51 |
| tumbleweed | poor non-x86 buildds | 16:52 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: nice work with the rc bugs | 18:05 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: so you did decide to sync yaws in the end? I wasn't sure what the changelog was meaning by removing erlang patches | 18:07 |
| jtaylor | so, time for some last minute merging ;) | 18:14 |
| ajmitch | still a couple of hours let I think | 18:15 |
| ajmitch | s/let/left/ | 18:15 |
| jtaylor | yes 21:00 utc I was told | 18:16 |
| * ajmitch is still getting his laptop back to usable | 18:17 | |
| jtaylor | meh scipy built a couple minutes to early and did not pick the new numpy :( | 18:18 |
| jtaylor | on armel | 18:18 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 18:22 |
| ajmitch | how long did it take to build? | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | 4 hours | 18:23 |
| jtaylor | scipy numpy less | 18:23 |
| jtaylor | rebuilds of -ubuntuX just increase X? or add a buildY to the version? | 18:25 |
| pabelanger | merge, merge! | 18:28 |
| jtaylor | hm ok how do I merge a 13.5 mb package with my 11kb/s upload connection? | 18:29 |
| jtaylor | I could sync it and then add the diff in a second upload ;) | 18:29 |
| stefanct | do you have a time machine at hand? :) | 18:30 |
| jtaylor | hm can I dput from alioth? (after I signed it locally?) | 18:30 |
| stefanct | what's the latest possible time i could file a sync request and get it merged into 12.04 without exception? also 21:00 utc or does it need to be processed already by that time? | 18:31 |
| ajmitch | jtaylor: I don't see why you shouldn't be able to dput from alioth | 18:32 |
| broder | stefanct: my understanding is that we will be accepting sync requests without FFes if they are filed before FF | 18:33 |
| stefanct | am i allowed to file a sync request even though the debian package has not hit the archives yet? (yes i am quite desperate :/) | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | if its new ffe's are usually easier to get | 18:36 |
| stefanct | ic | 18:36 |
| stefanct | we are preparing a release upstream atm... but i doubt that it gets ready in time | 18:36 |
| jtaylor | oh its only an update not completely new? | 18:37 |
| ajmitch | what are you updating? | 18:37 |
| stefanct | flashrom, app to flash bios chips etc. last release was last summer | 18:37 |
| stefanct | jtaylor: not a completely new package, no | 18:37 |
| valdur55 | Hey. i is possible to patch one package? | 18:42 |
| pabelanger | don't want to rock the boat, but another other sponsors care to comment on bug 408757 | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408757 in nsca (Ubuntu) "init sscript has no Usage option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408757 | 18:49 |
| pabelanger | and bug 897006 | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 897006 in nsca (Ubuntu) "Build nsca-client package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897006 | 18:49 |
| broder | pabelanger: do you have any sense of when the debian maintainer is planning to release their new version with the split? | 18:50 |
| pabelanger | broder: not sure, just pinged him but waiting to hear back. | 18:52 |
| pabelanger | The package is not very active, last release was Dec. 2010 | 18:53 |
| pabelanger | Now that I am using it more for a customer site, I suspect I'll be pushing upstream to help keep it active | 18:53 |
| broder | pabelanger: oh, i see. the client just isn't getting shipped at all currently? i assumed that you were taking a monolithic package and splitting it up into smaller packages | 18:55 |
| broder | i'm much less opposed to what you're doing | 18:56 |
| broder | (splitting up a package - especially when you know debian's about to do it too - has enough risk of introducing subtle differences between debian's split and ubuntu's split that it always makes me uncomfortable) | 18:56 |
| broder | pabelanger: anyway, the patch seems conceptually reasonable, but i can't do a full review right now | 18:57 |
| pabelanger | Okay, thanks for the look | 18:57 |
| jtaylor | hm I want to sync the new plplot, but it requries a mini transition | 19:55 |
| jtaylor | 3 packages | 19:55 |
| jtaylor | one of them ftbs but fix available in debian testing | 19:55 |
| jtaylor | should I file a sync request instead of syncing that? because plplot will not be done building until freeze | 19:56 |
| Ampelbein | jtaylor: Is the fix for testing a new upstream version? If not, you are fine, sync plplot now and do the rebuilds after plplot finished on all architectures. | 20:00 |
| jtaylor | it is | 20:00 |
| jtaylor | new upstream | 20:00 |
| jtaylor | though a minor, not sure how extensive | 20:00 |
| Ampelbein | It isn't too hard to get a FFe shortly after freeze, especially when it's only a minor update. | 20:07 |
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| jtaylor | phew all done | 20:48 |
| jtaylor | all remaining numpy packages had new versions in debian..., so I pulled them all hopefully I don't have to much mess to clean up this weekend xD | 20:49 |
| jtaylor | (they all have very extensive test suites which were successful, so its unlikely) | 20:50 |
| tumbleweed | ajmitch: I probably should have tested it, but it built... | 20:57 |
| ScottK | jtaylor: Re should you wait on syncing stuff: There's a long (unfortunate) tradition of tons of crap getting uploaded right at feature freeze, so I wouldn't suggest handicapping yoursef. | 20:57 |
| tumbleweed | don't know if tulp is worth sneaking in. There's a much newer upstream verison in debian which builds unmodified, but maybe not on all archs... | 20:58 |
| tumbleweed | broder: the nsca client is currently being shipped, just in the server pakage | 21:00 |
| tumbleweed | *package | 21:00 |
| broder | oh, i see | 21:00 |
| broder | well, it's still using pre-existing packaging to do the split | 21:00 |
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| tumbleweed | the pre-existing rules allows building a client-only package | 21:03 |
| tumbleweed | but if it's going into the archive, I say let's split it properly... | 21:03 |
| ajmitch | so, feature freeze in effect now? | 21:04 |
| tumbleweed | yup, but FFes are cheap for the first few days :) | 21:04 |
| tumbleweed | ah, I see someone hit the Debian NEW queue this evening | 21:07 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: so we can bug you or any other friendly release team member? :) | 21:14 |
| tumbleweed | that's what we're here for (/me hides) | 21:14 |
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| ajmitch | Laney: thanks :) | 21:17 |
| Laney | DENIED | 21:17 |
| ajmitch | :'( | 21:17 |
| * ajmitch shall go back to lurking instead | 21:17 | |
| Laney | ♥ | 21:17 |
| * Laney → pub | 21:18 | |
| * tumbleweed just got back from the pub | 21:18 | |
| ajmitch | bit early for the pub for me | 21:18 |
| aboudreault | hi, hey how can I pass the -j option (dpkg-buildpackage) via debuild... | 22:41 |
| aboudreault | I did it.. but can remember how... | 22:41 |
| aboudreault | -j8 directly just fails. | 22:41 |
| jtaylor | works for me | 22:41 |
| aboudreault | jtaylor, debuild -us -uc -j8 | 22:42 |
| aboudreault | something similar? | 22:42 |
| jtaylor | yes | 22:42 |
| jtaylor | it passes it to dpkg-buildpackage which has the option in its manpage | 22:42 |
| aboudreault | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc -j8 failed | 22:43 |
| aboudreault | if I remove the -j8... I see it begins the compilation | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | which package? | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | no further information? | 22:43 |
| aboudreault | shouldn't be related to any package | 22:44 |
| aboudreault | general question. using this with our packages. | 22:44 |
| aboudreault | will use dpkg-buildpackages directly | 22:44 |
| aboudreault | oh well.... even the dpkg-buildpackages fails. will build slowly then | 22:45 |
| jtaylor | hm how do I fix this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845099/ | 22:52 |
| jtaylor | a figured it out, had to remove a -build-deps | 22:54 |
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