| Myrtti | !pm > jhfjhgfjhgf | 00:43 |
|---|---|---|
| Myrtti | good night folks | 00:48 |
| bazhang | <LoganShaw> but the phone came with a dumbed down version of ubuntu | 03:14 |
| bazhang | ubuntu is on phones now? | 03:14 |
| Tm_T | bazhang: I suspect that was android | 05:58 |
| bazhang | Tm_T, ah ok | 05:59 |
| Tm_T | ubuntu = linux, android = limited linux, so, android = dumbed down ubuntu | 06:00 |
| bazhang | yeah he was majorly hostile in -ot yesterday | 13:15 |
| ikonia | I've seen him before | 13:17 |
| ikonia | shame, clearly a star trek deep space 9 fan | 13:17 |
| * Pici thinks about the rules of accquisition | 13:21 | |
| ikonia | a wise set of guidelines to live by | 13:22 |
| Myrtti | I would have perhaps pointed out the existance of this channel, but oh well. | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | not a big loss | 13:24 |
| ikonia | Myrtti: seen him before, discussion is not an option | 13:25 |
| ikonia | he knows what he's doing, hence why he joined offtopic straight away to complain | 13:25 |
| Myrtti | as I said, not a big loss. | 13:26 |
| bazhang | attack, not complain | 13:26 |
| ikonia | he's currently trying to get around the ban by changing his nick to uncle_rom_ | 13:26 |
| bazhang | * [Carmivore] (~carmivmor@unaffiliated/hardfu/bot/carmivore): Carmivore IRC Bot | 14:41 |
| ikonia | I wonder what that does | 14:41 |
| bazhang | the owner hardfu was just in #freenode talking about his bot PMing 10k users. nothing so far | 14:41 |
| bazhang | ie would it be banned if it did that | 14:42 |
| ikonia | then it goes | 14:42 |
| ikonia | if the owner is talking about it in freenode - that is hte bot | 14:42 |
| bazhang | nothing yet reported and it does not respond to comments | 14:42 |
| Myrtti | I must be blind but I can't see him talking about it | 14:43 |
| Myrtti | HardFu? | 14:43 |
| Myrtti | oh yeah. | 14:44 |
| bazhang | <HardFu> mquin: I have a scenario, a bot that freenode users can subscribe to for certain events, but I could have a problem if the bot would notify 10k users at the same time (again hypothetically speaking) | 14:44 |
| bazhang | tired of all the lies and nonsense from Lint. | 14:56 |
| ikonia | agreed | 14:56 |
| ikonia | no more slack | 14:56 |
| bazhang | he was going on and on earlier about "Ubuntu's password nonsense", ie not being able to login as root | 14:57 |
| ikonia | yah, enough of it | 14:58 |
| ikonia | I've warned him 3 - 4 times about it | 14:58 |
| bazhang | in here? | 15:07 |
| ikonia | idiot | 15:07 |
| ikonia | thank you | 15:07 |
| ikonia | sorry about that | 15:08 |
| ikonia | SheTuggedOnmypen | 15:10 |
| ikonia | I wonder what his nickname is meant to be | 15:11 |
| ikonia | (he just changed it to that) | 15:11 |
| ikonia | and again SheTuggedMyPenor | 15:11 |
| bazhang | any clue what lint is talking about? ignore broken packages, remove without removing? | 16:03 |
| Pici | sounds like he wants to remove their them from the apt database but not actually uninstall them. | 16:04 |
| Pici | s/apt/dpkg/ | 16:04 |
| bazhang | and he saids he needs to ignore broken packages | 16:04 |
| bazhang | err says | 16:05 |
| LjL | the answer is he can't because APT needs to at all times know what is on the filesystem, because APT is Big Brother | 16:05 |
| bazhang | hi | 16:10 |
| theadmin | What's up with this Lint person in #ubuntu ? He keeps joining and asking how to do normally impossible things, looks like some troll to me honestly :/ | 16:11 |
| ikonia | I'm inclined to agree | 16:11 |
| bazhang | yeah, we're watching | 16:11 |
| bazhang | thanks theadmin | 16:11 |
| ikonia | he complains that the impossible can't be done and then $product is rubbish | 16:11 |
| theadmin | Yeah | 16:12 |
| theadmin | I don't think rpm actually does that either. | 16:13 |
| theadmin | Then again rpm has just too many frontends, can't know all of them | 16:13 |
| bazhang | standard option in rpm haha | 16:15 |
| theadmin | rpm, rpm... I have no idea how people can actually use a package manger without an official frontend which can pull stuff from repos in a sane manner | 16:16 |
| bazhang | it's not that bad. but if he thinks it's standard, then he's wrong | 16:17 |
| theadmin | Now he claims he doesn't need dependencies for a package but needs the package | 16:18 |
| theadmin | lol | 16:18 |
| theadmin | This is actually somewhat amusing | 16:19 |
| bazhang | homemade distro! | 16:19 |
| theadmin | lol... Bet someone else just discovered remastersys | 16:20 |
| bazhang | thats no longer developed last I checked | 16:21 |
| theadmin | Ah... last *I* checked it was in like 2009 so pardon me | 16:21 |
| theadmin | s/it// | 16:22 |
| mneptok | theadmin: do you see bazhang and myself addressing cloudgeek in #u? | 16:23 |
| mneptok | you're aware we're ops, right? | 16:23 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Yeah, I just replied to him/her too | 16:24 |
| mneptok | why? | 16:24 |
| bazhang | well mneptok is. | 16:24 |
| bazhang | I'm here for the cookies | 16:24 |
| theadmin | why what?... I mean... Rules are rules... Nothing wrong if I try to explain right? | 16:24 |
| mneptok | theadmin: well, yes, there is. | 16:24 |
| bazhang | theadmin, redundancy | 16:24 |
| mneptok | 1523 users. what is 1521 of them plus myself corrected someone? | 16:25 |
| mneptok | s/is/if/ | 16:25 |
| theadmin | Meh okay *remembers not to correct anyone when an op is doing so* | 16:25 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Sorry, but um, why are you so angry at me recently? Don't do this, don't do that... I'm not breaking the actual rules (or am I?...) | 16:26 |
| mneptok | theadmin: look, no offense intended here. but the other day i mentioned you using "our" and "we" when discussing policy and procedure. i wrote that off to someone just feeling very connected to the project, and i think that's a positive. | 16:27 |
| theadmin | mneptok: "our" and "we", I no longer am using those, well, at least I'm trying not to | 16:27 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Just feels somewhat like you want to get rid of me or I offended you somehow | 16:28 |
| mneptok | theadmin: today you insert yourself into a discussion between ops and a user. if this stuff keeps happening, i'll start to wonder if it's genuine enthusiasm, or some other, less altruistic need. | 16:28 |
| theadmin | Heh if not for altruism I wouldn't really hang around trying to help people when I can on #ubuntu would I? | 16:29 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Again, I mean no offense or anything like that by my actions, and if they are wrong I'm glad if you correct me, it just makes me wonder if it's something personal | 16:30 |
| mneptok | theadmin: i tend to agree. so please, *do* hang around. but let ops handle users, and remember that there are people who have made years-long contributions that don't use possessive terms to describe the project. | 16:31 |
| mneptok | (agree with that altruism inputline) | 16:31 |
| theadmin | mneptok: I did stop using possessive terms... Very well then. As for users... Well, for instance right now PlaneCrazy1 has inserted an offtopic statement. Can I fire !offtopic or should I sit and wait for an op normally? I fail to understand what I'm supposed to do anymore | 16:33 |
| mneptok | theadmin: when you see ops dealing with an issue, well, then ops are dealing with an issue. | 16:33 |
| mneptok | theadmin: in fact, it's rare for us ops to get involved once one of us starts dealing with something. | 16:34 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Ah cool. Well, correct me if this happens again, because I don't remember all ops by names and am at #ubuntu-ops only when I'm either seriously annoyed by something or when I have a question that's related to, well, ops | 16:34 |
| mneptok | /names #ubuntu-ops | 16:34 |
| mneptok | this channel is not +s | 16:35 |
| LjL | theadmin: as a general rule, avoid basically repeating what others have said, whether or not they're ops, especially if it's offtopic stuff. | 16:35 |
| theadmin | LjL: Ah. Makes more sense now :) | 16:35 |
| theadmin | LjL: Thanks | 16:35 |
| mneptok | theadmin: sadly, the biggest offtopic offenders are all in this channel. because discussions of rules and procedures is not Ubuntu support. ;) | 16:36 |
| LjL | right, so we try to keep those to a minimum in #ubuntu | 16:36 |
| LjL | sometimes we fail | 16:36 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Hm, well, why not perform such things in PM then? (more noticable, less disturbing the channel) | 16:37 |
| LjL | theadmin: well that's not optimal either, because 1) you don't know whether someone else has done the same 2) you don't generally educate the channel about rules | 16:37 |
| theadmin | Ah wait, silly question | 16:37 |
| LjL | the problem is when what could have been a one-line warning turns into a debate, in #ubuntu | 16:37 |
| mneptok | "I just got 1521 PMs telling me about some -offtopic channel!" | 16:38 |
| mneptok | which is then offftopic itself. | 16:38 |
| mneptok | and gets another 1521 PMs | 16:38 |
| theadmin | mneptok: ...Does #ubuntu really have 1521 ops? wow. | 16:38 |
| mneptok | lather. rinse, repeat. | 16:38 |
| mneptok | theadmin: no, 1521 users | 16:38 |
| theadmin | mneptok: Ah, k. Well I just realized how stupid that suggestion was myself :D | 16:39 |
| mneptok | (or whatever) | 16:39 |
| theadmin | By the way, um, this question is probably for #ubuntu-irc but is #ubuntu-offtopic really intended for "everything" or just "ubuntu-related discussions"? I'm too lazy to join either of those channels, besides last I've been to #ubuntu-offtopic it was kind of freaky there | 16:41 |
| popey | its way more than ubuntu-related | 16:41 |
| mneptok | theadmin: !guidelines and !coc apply in -ot, too. but a LOT of leeway is given. | 16:42 |
| theadmin | I see | 16:42 |
| LjL | theadmin: it's not Ubuntu related, actually anything Ubuntu related tends to be seen as support and turned down lately ;( | 16:43 |
| mneptok | theadmin: "One does not simply walk into #ubuntu-offtopic." | 16:43 |
| theadmin | mneptok: I have no idea what you mean by that, but ok | 16:43 |
| mneptok | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lllsayM7YI1qkrl62o1_400.jpg | 16:43 |
| theadmin | LjL: lol even the Unity rants? | 16:43 |
| theadmin | Bet you get tons of those | 16:44 |
| LjL | theadmin: well no those get turned down for other reasons | 16:44 |
| mneptok | http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58104&d=1314493582 | 16:46 |
| theadmin | I see... | 16:46 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Somelauw said: nautilus is the file manager of gnome. | 16:47 |
| theadmin | ...Duh | 16:47 |
| theadmin | lol | 16:47 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Somelauw said: metacity is the window manager of gnome. It is a very simple and archetypical window manager. | 16:50 |
| theadmin | Meh anyway, see you everyone | 16:53 |
| mneptok | i don't think i'd describe Nautilus as "simple" any more | 16:58 |
| bazhang | hehe | 16:58 |
| bazhang | install nautilus-elementary! | 16:58 |
| bazhang | from the webupd8 PPA | 16:59 |
| mneptok | did i piss you off in some way? offend the family? what? | 16:59 |
| bazhang | mneptok, me? no, why would you think that? | 17:02 |
| Myrtti | webupd8 :-D lol | 17:15 |
| Myrtti | I think it was a go at these omnipresent webpublications with their PPA's | 17:16 |
| bazhang | Myrtti, precisely | 17:16 |
| bazhang | install the superOS repos! | 17:17 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 17:18 |
| bazhang | mneptok, my apologies for the confusion | 17:19 |
| mneptok | bazhang: ;) | 17:20 |
| bazhang | MS access via ubuntu? | 17:29 |
| mneptok | i'm not surew that's possible, even with a cantilever. | 17:31 |
| bazhang | hehe | 17:31 |
| bazhang | he's a -ru speaker, that must be a google translate | 17:31 |
| mneptok | "console" | 17:32 |
| mneptok | GOOG translates консоль as "cantilever" | 17:33 |
| bazhang | ok | 17:33 |
| h00k | !away > ohdae | 18:51 |
| EvilResistance | I'd like permission to put a stats bot (which includes a private logging component that logs to files that are non-public-accessible) into #ubuntu. it does nothing in-channel, but to remove any concern I'm happy to have a +q but on it. | 20:20 |
| EvilResistance | its nickname is 'evidence', and it shares the nickserv account of the trekweb generic bot account, "TrekWebBot". i can shift it to use the nickserv of the PennBot nickserv (which is the bot for the #ubuntu-us-pa loco channel) if you'd prefer, its got an unaffiliated nature. | 20:22 |
| EvilResistance | actually, its going to use the PennBot nickserv, just so it doesnt show any real affiliation | 20:23 |
| Pici | EvilResistance: What does this bot do? | 20:26 |
| === Guest22071 is now known as gord | ||
| EvilResistance | Pici: gathers generic statistics about #ubuntu, i.e. number of messages, number of users in-channel, maximum seen users in channel, etc. stores that information so its available via direct privmsg to the bot only (so as not to have any misfires in #ubuntu). Also simultaneously logs the channel traffic to a log file that does not face the internet and is only accessible via my local network, since i've decided i can't tr | 20:28 |
| EvilResistance | ust my ZNC to keep accurate logs of what happens while i'm away | 20:28 |
| EvilResistance | oops, charlimits :/ | 20:28 |
| EvilResistance | it doesn't do anything in-channel, except silent stats and logging. | 20:29 |
| EvilResistance | (and the logging is private logging) | 20:29 |
| Pici | Well, I don't think that'll be an issue. Let me just bounce it off the rest of the IRCC. | 20:31 |
| EvilResistance | to be perfectly safe, i've lobotomized it for #ubuntu and every other channel, so it doesnt respond to anything in channel, but to remove any potential concerns of this, i'm happy with a +q on it if the ops team would like that. | 20:31 |
| EvilResistance | alright, i'll be patient | 20:31 |
| EvilResistance | should i wait in this channel for a response from you guys, or should i just /part here, and await the response in #ubuntu-irc? | 20:32 |
| Pici | EvilResistance: You may part, we'll get back to you | 20:32 |
| EvilResistance | alrighty | 20:32 |
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