[00:01] <rbasak> adam_g: sorry, I got distracted. Yeah, I think zul's on top of it.
[00:17] <medberry> Has anyone run Russell Coker's postal test (for testing mail servers)? I'm getting md5sum mismatches when running the rabid portion of the test.
[00:39] <DyeA> hello all, I am configuring postfix on my server and going through the guide on help.ubuntu.com. In the section on configuring postfix it says - Replace 192.168.0.0/24 with the actual network and class range of your mail server. - being a dirty noob to this I don't know what that means... what should i do here?
[00:40] <DyeA> and then, the actual pre-filled value in the config panel is 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128___
[00:40] <twb> DyeA: pastebin the output of "ip a".  In particular, you're looking for IPv4 address ranged.
[00:40] <twb> The pre-filled values are the loopback addresses, i.e. only the local machine will be able to send mail via your new postfix install.
[00:41] <ovhan> hello , anyone here ever run a minecraft server off of ubuntu?
[00:41] <twb> !anyone > ovhan
[00:41] <DyeA> twb:http://pastebin.com/jb1myQS5
[00:42] <ovhan> twb , what did that message mean ??
[00:42] <DyeA> twb: this eh? 205.186.157.117/32
[00:42] <twb> DyeA: /32 is a single host
[00:43] <twb> DyeA: the /N is called a "CIDR block"; look it up on wikipedia when you have time
[00:43] <DyeA> not sure what that means?
[00:43] <ovhan> well fine , my question is , HOW do i install a minecraft server on a ubuntu server, links would make me very h appy =)
[00:43] <DyeA> i don't have a range?
[00:43] <DyeA> twb: ok i will tonight
[00:44] <DyeA> so just replace 128 with 205.186.157.117
[00:44] <twb> DyeA: no.
[00:44] <twb> Your paste is timing out here.
[00:44] <DyeA> odd!
[00:45] <twb> Try paste.debian.net
[00:45] <twb> nm, works now
[00:45] <twb> OK, you're an OpenVZ container?
[00:45] <DyeA> ? media temple ve?
[00:45] <twb> Please also pastebin output of "ip r"
[00:46] <DyeA> crap i cant
[00:46] <DyeA> i am being booted out the door
[00:46] <DyeA> twb: thanks for the attemp to help!
[00:46] <DyeA> i will come back to this
[00:47] <sp4z> has anybody installed the cisco vpn client on ubuntu-server?
[00:52] <SpamapS> adam_g: all good now with mysql?
[00:57] <adam_g> SpamapS: yeah, thanks
[01:48] <user10000> does "bridge_portprio eth1 1" or 100? make connection respond quicker?
[01:49] <twb> user10000: I have no idea what you're talking about
[01:49] <user10000> im setting bridge for my interfaces, and i dunno what bridge_portprio means
[01:54] <ruben23> hi guys i ahve erro on instaling ubuntu server see this error ---> installer cannot figure out how to install base system. no installable cd-rom was found and no valid mirror was configured---> any idea guys..?
[01:55] <twb> ruben23: what install medium are you booting?
[01:55] <ruben23> DVD disc..
[01:55] <ruben23> twb: DVD disc..
[01:55] <twb> ruben23: what release are you installing?  Is the DVD drive connected via SATA, PATA, or what?
[01:55] <ruben23> twb: any idea what could be the problem..?
[01:56] <ruben23> its conencted with SATA II..- hdd
[01:57] <ruben23> realease installing- Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS
[01:58] <twb> ruben23: older releases cannot install from SATA CD/DVD drives.  I do not remember if that includes lucid.
[01:58] <ruben23> so i need to used higher release..?
[01:58] <twb> ruben23: you could try booting from USB key instead
[01:59] <ruben23> twb: could this be write error....?
[01:59] <ruben23> on the disk..
[01:59] <twb> Unlikely
[02:00] <twb> Download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/boot.img.gz ; gunzip it; dd it onto a USB key.  That is a minimal image so you will need ethernet (not wifi) to complete the install.
[02:01] <qman___> lucid can install from SATA CDs
[02:01] <twb> qman___: OK, thanks.
[02:01] <qman___> I want to say hardy could too, but that's near where the mark was
[02:02] <ruben23> thanks guys, i will try nw with usb
[02:03] <twb> ruben23: don't forget to dd it to /dev/sdz (the key), not /dev/sdz1 (the partition on the key).  This will, obviously, trash any data already on the key.
[02:31] <DyeA> twb: are you still available for help?
[02:32] <twb> If you don't mind me swearing at the same time
[02:33] <twb> Grub is being even more of an annoying fucktard than usual
[02:33] <DyeA> lol thats fine
[02:34] <DyeA> twb: paste updated with ip r
[02:34] <DyeA> http://pastebin.com/tVrXx9hV
[02:36] <twb> wtf
[02:36] <DyeA> ummm yes?
[02:36] <twb> Your VM is weird
[02:36] <DyeA> is it?
[02:38] <twb> That's saying you have an IP of 205.186.157.117, and... something like a point-to-point peer, but not actually one, being 192.255.255.1
[02:38] <twb> According to that your VE doesn't even HAVE a local network
[02:38] <DyeA> ahhh (nods head knowingly)
[02:41] <DyeA> well i have a second ve machine that I configured mail on, and on that one i just accepted the default value and it sends mail, but not knowing what the f is going on bugs me so I thought i would ask for help on this one
[02:42] <DyeA> plus this one has a client site on it instead so even more reason to know whats going on with this one
[02:44] <twb> If you're just making satellite nodes and not MTAs, just configure them to relay all mail the the smarthost
[02:44] <twb> You probably don't even need postfix, just msmtp-mta
[02:45] <DyeA> im not sure what you just said but its a standalone server not a "satellite node"?
[02:46] <twb> DyeA: normally on a network you have one "real" MTA, and the rest just send all their mail to it.
[02:47] <DyeA> ahh ok so if i had multiple servers I would install postfix on one and send mail from other servers through it?
[02:47] <DyeA> or just have a dedicated mail server
[02:51] <DyeA> Thats not my situation though, i have my personal server where I accepted the default value and mailing works and  I have this other one for work where I stopped in the middle of the install to figure out what the correct way to do it was
[02:56] <DyeA> twb:Well thanks for giving it a go
[03:12] <Daviey> smoser: your shell script, you didn't incremete uuid?
[03:13] <smoser> i did
[03:13] <smoser> calling uuid gets unique each time
[03:13] <smoser> $(uuid)
[03:13] <smoser> i dont insert the id field so it auto inccrements
[03:14]  * Daviey installs uuid
[03:15] <Daviey> that is better :)
[03:16] <Daviey> smoser: what did you do to screw your devenv?
[03:17] <smoser> i wiped it
[03:17] <smoser> and assumed that i could re-run devstack
[03:18] <Daviey> hah
[03:37] <Daviey> smoser: no bottleneck for me
[03:37] <Daviey> smoser: instance number i-585
[03:38] <smoser> you *ran* 585 instances?
[03:38] <Daviey> smoser: no, your code
[03:38] <smoser> what times does it give for wget ?
[03:38] <Daviey> real    0m 0.32s
[03:39] <Daviey> smoser: re-running populate.sh
[03:40] <smoser> hm..
[03:41] <Daviey> smoser: yep, and still face
[03:43] <smoser> face?
[03:45] <Daviey> err, fast
[03:46] <Daviey> smoser: it does grow fast with demand
[03:47] <Daviey> smoser: the issue i think is that it just does not scale
[03:47] <Daviey> while [ 1 ] ; do echo $(time wget http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id -O /dev/null 2>&1 | grep real) &  done
[03:49] <smoser> Daviey, .32 seconds is "normal" in my experience on my devstack systems.
[03:49] <smoser> with a dozen or less instances (which is wnat i've only ever tested)
[03:50] <Daviey> smoser: one instance, hammering the service..
[03:50] <smoser> well that is just going to oom it or something.
[03:50] <smoser> but thats not the issue IS was seeing.
[03:50] <smoser> probably a valid DOS concern
[03:50] <smoser> but not related.
[03:51] <Daviey> sure?
[03:51] <Daviey> I was suprised how quickly it grew
[03:51] <Daviey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/843936/
[03:51] <smoser> python -c 'import boto.utils; print boto.utils.get_instance_metadata();'
[03:52] <Daviey> smoser: turns out cirros isn't the way of the future, has no python :)
[03:52] <Daviey> i could run it from the host i guess
[03:52] <smoser> your wile loop above is going to fork-bomb the instance
[03:53] <Daviey> smoser: i killed it before it had a chance
[03:53] <Daviey> that isn't the concern right now.
[03:53] <Daviey> It's how quickly it grew makes me wonder
[03:54] <smoser> wait.
[03:54] <smoser> your first one was at 4 seconds there.
[03:54] <smoser> well. i gues the others were in on it too.
[03:54] <smoser> run it again
[03:54] <smoser> after all things settled
[03:54] <smoser> what is it?
[03:56] <Daviey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/843938/
[03:56] <Daviey> smoser: it just seems suspicious that it is starting to show numbers we are expecting
[03:57] <smoser> i'm conused.
[03:57] <smoser> it *is*
[03:57] <smoser> anything over .3 is horrid
[03:57] <smoser> you're seeing 4 second
[03:58] <Daviey> smoser: yep, with concurrent hits
[03:59] <Daviey> i think it's a scale issue
[03:59] <smoser> well there is clearly a scale issue.
[03:59] <smoser> but IS wasn't seeing that.
[03:59] <smoser> there was no huge load
[03:59] <smoser> they were fireing up 1 instance
[03:59] <smoser> or 2
[03:59] <smoser> or 3
[04:00] <smoser> and serially inside that instance crawling the MD
[04:00] <smoser> nothing like you're doing
[04:00] <Daviey> smoser: i am not convinced
[04:00] <smoser> Daviey, go to a canonistack instance *right now*
[04:00] <smoser> and try it
[04:00] <smoser> its 3 second return
[04:00] <smoser> and there is no load
[04:00] <Daviey> just running wget http:/etc & , UP enter, a few times i'm seeing 3-4 second requests
[04:01] <smoser> do it serially
[04:01] <Daviey> smoser: sure there is no load?
[04:01] <smoser> why would there be?
[04:01] <smoser> and elmo said ther ewas not.
[04:01] <Daviey> hmm ok
[04:01] <smoser> on canonistack
[04:02] <smoser> you will consistently get 3 second
[04:02] <smoser> or maybe 5
[04:02] <smoser> do it in a loop
[04:02] <Daviey> Is elmo no load and openstack no load compariable?
[04:02] <Daviey> as in, ~5 concurrent GET's is 'no load' IMO, but not according to openstack
[04:04] <smoser> i have no idea what you're saying
[04:04] <smoser> do this:
[04:04] <smoser> you're in cirros?
[04:05] <Daviey> yes
[04:06] <smoser> i=0; max=50; while i=$(($i+1)) && [ $i -lt $max ]; do time ec2metadata --instance-id ; done
[04:06] <Daviey> 0.30s 0> 0.85s
[04:07] <Daviey> varying 0.30s -> 0.85s
[04:11] <Daviey> smoser: interesting... it does use amqp for each request.
[04:11] <smoser> uhoh
[04:11] <smoser> daviey is concerned that smoser might be right
[04:11] <Daviey> in what regard?
[04:12] <smoser> thats what i initally reported as the problem.
[04:14] <Daviey> smoser: no, you said you were being spammed after running the sql?
[04:15] <Daviey> smoser: I'm seeing civilised behaviour, http://pb.daviey.com/0QYZ/ .. msg contruct, msg send, msg recieve, handle. .. but that does not scale IMO.
[04:16] <smoser> no. not after running the sql.
[04:16] <smoser> hm... well i saw all sorts of those
[04:16] <smoser> when i did a wget
[04:16] <smoser> from the instance.
[04:17] <Daviey> i wonder if it's possible to get a measurement of the amqp bus.
[04:22] <Daviey> smoser: i need to EoD
[04:22] <Daviey> o/
[04:22] <smoser> good night.
[04:22] <smoser> this sucks.
[04:41] <linocisco> hi alll, I would like to set up wifi which do not require any wifi client's browser's to set proxy and port entry. what do I do?
[04:59] <adam_g> smoser: sup
[05:00] <smoser> i got it sorted.
[05:00] <smoser> i was using devstack from https://github.com/cloudbuilders/devstack
[05:00] <smoser> not https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack
[05:00] <linocisco> hi alll, I would like to set up wifi which do not require any wifi client's browser's to set proxy and port entry. what do I do?
[05:01] <adam_g> smoser: wtf is openstack-dev?
[05:01] <smoser> no idea.
[05:01] <smoser> but it had what i needed
[05:01] <smoser> :)
[05:02] <adam_g> smoser: you're using the original keystone or KSL?
[05:02] <smoser> KSL
[05:05] <smoser> adam_g, openstack-dev is what 'stack.org' documents
[05:05] <smoser> http://devstack.org
[05:05] <adam_g> weird
[05:06] <linocisco> hi alll, I would like to set up wifi which do not require any wifi client's browser's to set proxy and port entry. what do I do?
[05:06] <adam_g> smoser: were you able to reproduce the crappy metadata response time?
[05:06] <adam_g> im about to poke it on the CI hardware while its quiet
[05:08] <smoser> not really. daviey seemed to see some issues with it under load
[05:08] <smoser> but i really dont think its load that causes it.
[05:08] <smoser> i mean *any* given request is taking 3 seconds
[05:10] <smoser> adam_g, i've got to go to bed.
[05:11] <adam_g> smoser: hmmm. its a lot quicker for me, 3s for a whole ec2metadata run, .035s a request
[05:11] <adam_g> g'night
[05:26] <linocisco> hi all, i have two ISP IPs,  172.10.10.1  and 172.20.20.1. THey can ping each other. I put 2nd ip (20.1) to wifi router WAN port and office uses local LAN network  (192.168.1.0). I can't ping from 1st ISP to local address. How can I make it ping using ubuntu server?
[05:32] <Kismac> linocisco: what does arp say?
[05:36] <josePhoenix> Has anyone else experienced this bug? It seems to still be open: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646620
[05:36] <josePhoenix> It seems to be describing exactly what's going on here.
[05:39] <twb> Anybody remember offhand if lucid can drive an rtl8111e?
[05:54] <soren> twb: You mean amd8111e?
[05:54] <soren> twb: Or actually rtl8111e?
[05:55] <twb> rtl8111e, the nic
[05:55] <soren> I don't even see such a driver in Precise.
[05:55] <twb> It's probably folded into rtl8xxx something
[05:56] <soren> Do you have PCI ID's?
[05:56] <twb> No I don't have the device yet
[05:56] <soren> Ah.
[05:56] <twb> rtl8xxx series is the realtek gige nics
[05:56] <twb> usually on boards too stingy to get e1000s
[05:57] <hallyn> stgraber: utlemming: need to test, but thinking of pushing lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/lxc/merge-utlemming-and-more tomorrow
[06:39] <linocisco> Kismac no arp tested
[06:40] <linocisco> does anybody tweak http://www.visionsystems.de/produkte/3175.html ?
[06:42] <linocisco> anybody with EMRunner 5622 's experience?? it is ubuntu based settop box . nothing can be customized
[07:26] <koolhead11> hi all
[07:58] <RootChaos> i keep on getting these messages whilst trying to do apt-get update
[07:58] <RootChaos> 99% [6 Sources bzip2 0B] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.167)] 1,262B/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[07:58] <RootChaos> Err http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/universe Sources
[07:58] <RootChaos> Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[07:59] <RootChaos> any ideas ?
[07:59] <koolhead11> RootChaos: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:59] <RootChaos> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[07:59] <RootChaos> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
[07:59] <RootChaos> DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
[07:59] <RootChaos> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS"
[08:01] <koolhead11> RootChaos: looks fine to me. can you ping machine security.ubuntu.com
[08:02] <_ruben> RootChaos: you either have a misbehaving proxy in between, or the archive got corrupted (tho i really doubt it's the latter)
[08:03] <RootChaos> root@nms:/etc/squid# ping security.ubuntu.com
[08:03] <RootChaos> 64 bytes from bignay.canonical.com (91.189.92.167): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=794 ms
[08:03] <RootChaos> 64 bytes from bignay.canonical.com (91.189.92.167): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=894 ms
[08:03] <RootChaos> 64 bytes from bignay.canonical.com (91.189.92.167): icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=815 ms
[08:03] <RootChaos> it could be proxy through
[08:03] <RootChaos> ok, let me look into that part frist
[08:03] <RootChaos> thanks
[08:06] <RootChaos> eeeck, seems like a proxy issue
[08:06] <RootChaos> routed traffic elswhere,, now seems to work fine
[08:06] <RootChaos> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Packages [372kB]
[08:06] <RootChaos> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Packages [14B]
[08:06] <RootChaos> thanks guys
[08:06] <_ruben> np :)
[08:20] <linocisco> hi
[08:21] <koolhead11> hi
[09:46] <afuentes> suddenly all of my servers stopped showing /etc/motd.tail i noticed in some of the it got renamed to motd.tail.old... after a few minutes, it started working again
[09:46] <afuentes> i googled a little bit the issue without luck...
[09:46] <afuentes> can anybody clue me in what happened?
[09:59] <linocisco> hi
[09:59] <onekenthomas> niihau
[10:00] <linocisco> hi
[11:20] <phretor> "sudo mount -o rw,remount / -> mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda2 read-write, is write-protected" - will I still be able to remount rw the / without physical access to the machine?
[11:21] <_ruben> you'll need to figure out why /dev/sda2 is read-only
[11:21] <kraut> phretor: there is a reason for write-protect
[11:21] <kraut> phretor: dmesg should tell you why
[11:21] <kraut> phretor: maybe broken disk or problems to access the disc, i.e. problem with your hba
[11:22] <_ruben> in my experience it tends to be related to overloaded storage arrays causing too long delays, i tend to just reboot the vm and it'll be back to normal :)
[11:24] <kraut> sure but i would double-check this because it could also another problem and he could be able to backup data at the moment
[11:24] <phretor> kraut: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/551903/
[11:37] <koolhead11> rabbitmq-server uses upstart isn`t it
[11:38] <koolhead11> now when i do /etc/init.d/rabbitmq-server i get msg on screen "Stopping rabbitmq-server: RabbitMQ is not running rabbitmq-server."
[11:39] <koolhead11> am using oneiric, going to test the same on precious now
[11:42]  * koolhead11 wonders if anyone is here
[12:12]  * RoyK wonders slightly about the best way to do a clean drive kill - this drive has been 'erronous' for some time, but not enough for warranty...
[12:17] <koolhead11> RoyK: any idea where can i see info about a pkg as it uses upstart or sysv
[12:17] <koolhead11> apt-cache showpkg  doen not mention tht
[12:17] <koolhead11> :(
[12:23] <afuentes> I make apt-get remove --purge dhcp3-relay, after that i dpkg -l dhcp3-relay and i get this --> rc  dhcp3-relay (r=removed, c=configurationfile)
[12:24] <afuentes> why its not purging the package?
[12:34] <Vivek> What is this new component called mass in the Ubuntu Orchestra Suite ?
[12:34] <Vivek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Orchestra
[12:41] <Vivek> https://launchpad.net/mass says 'Page not found'.
[13:08] <RoyK> hm... I have this disk here, 7200rpm, that fails sometimes, sometimes not, so in an attempt to reproduce things, I grab the drive while it's spinning and yank it hard to the side, repeat, suddenly I can reproduce the failure without any problem...
[14:23] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933480 in openssh (main) "Picks hmac-md5 over hmac-sha1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933480
[14:26] <stgraber> hallyn: looking
[14:32] <stgraber> hallyn: looks reasonable. What happens if you have multiple network devices defined in your .conf or if you have none?
[14:32] <stgraber> hallyn: also, one unrelated thing I noticed the other day, we should probably flush and re-generate the SSH keys when creating a container
[14:34] <zul> Daviey: keystone should build in the openstack-ci now, it was missing a dep
[14:35] <zul> er...once its re-enabled
[14:38] <hallyn> stgraber: hm, if multiple nics, I guess my change will only assign a hwaddr for one?
[14:38] <hallyn> yeah, really, i'm not happy with how i've got it
[14:38] <hallyn> more to the point what if the user wants no network
[14:40] <hallyn> suppose i could count the # of lxc.network.type entires inthe config file at create, but...  yuck
[14:46] <hallyn> stgraber: what do you think?  should i just add one hwaddr entry, only if there is at least one lxc.network entry?
[14:51] <stgraber> hallyn: I guess the safest is to add a hwaddr entry if there's exactly one lxc.network.type entry of type veth
[14:51] <stgraber> hallyn: so then we don't have to worry about the corner cases, like 'none', 'phys' or any similar network option where you don't want to change the mac
[14:52] <hallyn> and if there are more, assume the schlep knows what he's doing?
[14:57] <hallyn> stgraber: new version pushed but not tested
[15:00] <hallyn> stgraber: btw, the udev containers fix, that's the one still sitting in the packaging branch waiting on upstart fix for arm+ppc right?
[15:00] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, anyone with more than one network already had to read the manpage and do manual changes :)
[15:01] <rbasak> jamespage: around? I have a build failure due to the -Wl,--as-needed thing but am struggling to understand the Debian wiki page in order to fix it.
[15:01] <stgraber> hallyn: yes, I need to check that upstart built fine with the new version and if it did, upload udev
[15:01] <hallyn> stgraber: btw i didn't understand what you actually meant about the ssh keys
[15:02] <hallyn> oh you mean the host keys?
[15:02] <stgraber> yeah
[15:03] <stgraber> ok, so new upstart built on armel, but still not on armhf and powerpc ...
[15:03] <hallyn> stgraber: would you want to do the same locale fix that utlemming did in ubuntu-cloud?
[15:03] <hallyn> i forget where we left that
[15:04] <stgraber> I think it'd be nice yes, but I won't have any time to look at it today :(
[15:04] <hallyn> and by we i mean you doing the work and me back-seat driving
[15:04] <hallyn> ok
[15:04] <hallyn> so i'll test my new upload and push?
[15:04] <hallyn> utlemming: ^ would like your confirmation that you hadn't made more changes
[15:04] <stgraber> hallyn: yep, sounds good
[15:05] <stgraber> hallyn: if the locale issue annoys me too much, I'll file a bug about it and fix it as bugfix post-FF
[15:05] <hallyn> stgraber: last thing - ssh key injection (like ubuntu-cloud now does)?
[15:06] <hallyn> i dont know if that's key to some people's automation....
[15:06] <stgraber> hallyn: not having a non-C locale can in some cases give you data corruption in databases and makes perl complain a lot, so can probably be considered bugfix
[15:07] <stgraber> hallyn: well, if all it does is copy a key to authorized_keys, it's simple enough and won't hurt to add
[15:07] <stgraber> hallyn: I'm guessing people doing heavy automation probably either have custom templates or just cp stuff in the container directly ;)
[15:07] <hallyn> you apparently didn't look closely at how many commits it took me to get the network thing right just now :)
[15:09] <hallyn> stgraber: the ubuntu-cloud image doesn't append the authorized_keys, but overwrites it.  i guess that's fine though
[15:09] <stgraber> hallyn: yep
[15:09] <hallyn> all right i'll copy that code in to the same patch
[15:10] <hallyn> thanks, ttyl :)
[15:10] <stgraber> thanks for all the work, ... Feature Freeze day is crazy ... ;)
[15:15] <hallyn> ff is when?  2100?
[15:17] <koolhead11> Daviey: got few mintues
[15:21] <Daviey> koolhead11: yah
[15:23] <koolhead11> Daviey: its about rabbitmq-server package. http://paste.ubuntu.com/844508/  Is it a bug?
[15:23] <koolhead11> i tried it in precious/oneiric both
[15:24] <koolhead11> unlike other services it should say you have non-root privileges and use upstart i suppose
[15:25] <koolhead11> *like
[15:27] <Daviey> koolhead11: does it /actually/ stop the service?
[15:27] <koolhead11> Daviey: no. just gives wrong information :(
[15:28] <koolhead11> and it gives error message when i use it with upstart in non-root privileges
[15:29] <koolhead11> so this /etc/init.d/rabbitmq-server <result> is incorrect
[15:31] <Daviey> koolhead11: yeah, sounds like a bug - report it, and attach a patch
[15:31] <koolhead11> ok. sir
[15:34] <mastro> hi there: i installed ubuntu server, now Added on /etc/fstab a NFS disk. tested then rebooted.. at boot time it is not mounted but if I execut mount -a it get mounted so the configuration is fine. it's a virtualmachine receiving the eth0 IP from DHCP I only connect through SSH..
[15:34] <mastro> no network manager nor gui installed
[15:34] <mastro> I need the NFS disk to be mounted BEFORE the SSH server is brought up
[15:39] <TeTeT> mastro: guess you can change the upstart ssh job to wait for mountall-net?
[15:41] <mastro> TeTeT, ok.. but before that I need to make my NFS to actually mount at boot time so why isn't it mounting?
[15:41] <mastro> TeTeT, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/275451/comments/42 <--- is this still in place?
[15:41] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 275451 in sysvinit "nfs mounts specified in fstab is not mounted on boot. " [Undecided,Invalid]
[15:41] <TeTeT> mastro: I doubt it, it's a very old bug and also invalid
[15:42] <mastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/275451
[15:42] <TeTeT> mastro: what release do you use? oneiric?
[15:43] <mastro> TeTeT, if you read it careful you see they just closed it because it was open since 2008
[15:43] <mastro> Michael Thompson (mike-thompson) wrote on 2011-06-02: I as well have been plagued by this problem (NFS mounts failing on bootup) ever since upstart was introduced to Ubuntu.
[15:43] <TeTeT> mastro: it's for sysvinit, mount is done via upstart now
[15:44] <mastro> TeTeT, can you help me debug why this isn't mounting? I never had this issues.. first time using ubuntu server
[15:45] <mastro> well.. first time with NFS
[15:45] <TeTeT> mastro: maybe you want to check the mountall--net.conf and add some debugging info there. for example if the mountall script is still running when it is called
[15:46] <mastro> TeTeT, hum.. ok let's try adding some "echo"
[15:47] <TeTeT> mastro: not sure you'll see any echo. what about 'ps aux | grep mountall > /tmp/nfs-debug.$$'
[15:47] <TeTeT> mastro: so you see in /tmp/nfs-debug.* if the mountall process was still running when the job was called
[15:50] <mastro> TeTeT, apparently I fixed following a suggestion in #ubuntu, I added the _netdev argument in fstab
[15:51] <TeTeT> mastro: cool, didn't know about _netdev actually
[15:51] <mastro> TeTeT, never had to use _netdev in other system, do you know which software use it?
[15:51] <TeTeT> mastro: man mount
[15:53] <mastro> TeTeT, In other distro I didn't have to use it, I'm asking if this is something "new" or why on ubuntu it is needed, even the official nfs documentation do not say it is needed: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s04.html
[15:55] <TeTeT> mastro: I do not know. maybe it's a new mount option that is not available in older versions of mount
[16:06] <mastro> TeTeT, I thought it was fixed but it's random...
[16:07] <mastro> TeTeT, I tried to add mount /mnt/repos on rc.local logging on a file this is the output when failing http://pastebin.com/JV68NksG
[16:08] <TeTeT> mastro: maybe a race between mountall.net and statd?
[16:08] <stgraber> hallyn: yep, 21:00 UTC
[16:08] <TeTeT> mastro: can you file a bug with this info and your problem on Launchpad against mount? maybe some developer has an idea
[16:11] <mastro> TeTeT, no problem in creating the bug.. but I need a workaround :/
[16:13] <TeTeT> mastro: maybe add an 'emit statd-started' to /etc/init/statd.conf and wait for it in mountall-net.conf
[16:13] <TeTeT> mastro: I'm no upstart wizard, so you might want to check that first
[16:15] <mastro> TeTeT, ok I'll open the bug then try
[16:17] <mastro> TeTeT, sorry but.... how do I report a bug without Ubuntu CLIENT installed?
[16:17] <TeTeT> mastro: use the webinterface, let me get the URL for you
[16:17] <mastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu <--- I'm registered but I don't see how to create a bug from here, clicking "report a bug" bring me to the wiki
[16:20] <TeTeT> mastro: I get timeouts on LP right now
[16:21] <mastro> TeTeT, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[16:22] <TeTeT> mastro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+filebug
[16:22] <TeTeT> mastro: this way you file it against mountall, which hopefully is the correct package
[16:24] <kklimonda> mastro: most of the time you should be using ubuntu-bug to report the bug
[16:28] <mastro> TeTeT, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/933575
[16:28] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 933575 in ubuntu "NFS not being mounted at boot time - rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking" [Undecided,New]
[16:28] <mastro> TeTeT, sorry I read it after filing the bug
[16:28] <mastro> kklimonda, I don't use ubuntu on my PC the only ubuntu I have are ubuntu server on some virtual machine with no gui
[16:29] <mastro> kklimonda, and I think assuming an user will have the GUI installed when firing a bug is not very cleaver, what if the bug is in INSTALLING ubuntu in the first place?
[16:31] <mastro> TeTeT, there is an /etc/init/statd-mounting.conf and it has this as header comment: description "Block the mounting event for NFS filesytems until statd is running"
[16:31] <kklimonda> mastro: ubuntu-bug works fine without UI
[16:32] <kklimonda> mastro: you can either use links, or if it does't work (it did some time ago, haven't tested it recently) you can copy url returned by ubuntu-bug and open it in your browser on another computer
[16:33] <TeTeT> mastro: maybe it's not always working
[16:33] <mastro> kklimonda, I don't see why
[16:33] <kklimonda> mastro: it gathers some useful informations (like package version and all installed dependencies) that make triaging bug easier for developers
[16:33] <mastro> kklimonda, also, it is not explained in the wiki page and it doesn't solve the issue if your client doesn't have ubuntu / the issue was in installing ubuntu
[16:34] <mastro> TeTeT, :/
[16:34] <kklimonda> mastro: yes, it doesn't solve all problems, that's why we have ?no-direrect - but it should be used as the last resort
[16:35] <mastro> kklimonda, not very easy to find anyway
[16:36] <kklimonda> yes, it's hidden at the end of the wiki page also for that reason - we just receive so much bugs, using apport makes it easier for us to process them
[16:45] <mastro> TeTeT, I modified the package to mountall
[16:46] <TeTeT> mastro: working now? if so add the work-around to the bug report please
[16:51] <mastro> TeTeT, no not working
[17:05] <mastro> TeTeT, I did it in a really ugly way, by a crontab entry that run at @reboot and a script that keep trying mount -a every 5 seconds until it find a file .check in the mount point
[17:05] <mastro> :/
[17:07] <TeTeT> mastro: hmm, if you want something quick & dirty, go the rc.local path. check if the mount is there and if not, mount it
[17:07] <Vivek> Daviey: Are you around ?
[17:07] <Vivek>  Daviey: https://launchpad.net/mass is showing me a Page not found message.
[17:08] <Vivek> Daviey: Is this a new component in OpenStack ?
[17:08] <mastro> TeTeT, that was my FIRST solution as you see in the bug report that DID NOT worked...
[17:09] <mastro> kklimonda, is there a way to collect the bug report with that tool to a file and attach it to the bug report in a second time?
[17:10] <mastro> kklimonda, for instance: ubuntu-bug --> choice 5 (other) --> Error: No package specified You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information
[17:10] <mastro> lol
[17:11] <kklimonda> mastro: there is apport-collect for gathering additional info for the existing bug report
[17:11] <kklimonda> mastro: and you can save data gathered by ubuntu-bug to /tmp instead of sending it to LP (if your server has no internet connection etc.)(
[17:12] <mastro> kklimonda, what about the error above?
[17:13] <kklimonda> mastro: you have to call ubuntu-bug with either package name or program pid for it to work
[17:14] <kklimonda> mastro: that's what the error is saying
[17:18] <mastro> kklimonda, and what if I don't know a package and have not any pid? anyway I used apport-collect https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/933575
[17:18] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 933575 in mountall "NFS not being mounted at boot time - rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking" [Undecided,New]
[17:19] <kklimonda> mastro: if you don't know the package then you can't really report the bug anyway
[17:19] <kklimonda> (reporting bugs against Ubuntu project isn't really helpful)
[17:24] <undecim> I need a quick and dirty way to limit my server's bandwidth to a few KB
[17:24] <undecim> momentarily*
[17:25] <undecim> or perhaps limit IO on a given device
[17:25] <undecim> but the latter might cause more problems for me
[17:37] <TeTeT> mastro: any luck with modifying the scripts?
[17:37] <mastro> TeTeT, ?
[17:37] <TeTeT> mastro: for the nfs mount problem
[17:38] <mastro> TeTeT, I'm not modifying any script anymore.. I'm fine with my workaround until the bug is fixed
[17:39] <TeTeT> mastro: ok
[17:40] <TeTeT> mastro: can you quantify in the bug how often the mount was absent and how often present?
[17:42] <mastro> TeTeT, sure
[17:43] <hallyn> zul: hey
[17:43] <hallyn> zul: have you been using the libvirt 0.9.9?
[17:43] <hallyn> (apparently i'm using it here and didn't realize it :)
[17:44] <hallyn> zul: today's the last day to upload it, i think
[17:45] <adam_g> smoser: can you please +1 this if this got you going last night: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4149
[17:47] <smoser> its notmuch value, but ok
[17:56] <adam_g> smoser: also i was playing with the meta-data handler last night. as it is, a single request turns into the handler gathering all metadata for instance from every possible source (db, amqp calls to network, compute, both), then returning only the bit that was requested.
[17:56] <smoser> adam_g, right.
[17:56] <smoser> that is known.
[17:57] <smoser> (i didn't know it did ampq, and i assume that is the huge slow down)
[17:57] <smoser> here...
[17:57] <smoser> https://review.openstack.org/#change,809
[17:57] <smoser> that needs cleanup
[17:57] <smoser> but it has some benefits.
[17:58] <smoser> adam_g, why does it do ampq ?
[17:59] <adam_g> smoser: network_api.get_floating_ips_by_fixed_address(context, fixed_ip)  stuff like that and compute_api.* end up as messages on the queue
[17:59] <tjaalton> kklimonda: got collab-maint already?-)
[17:59] <adam_g> smoser: i was playing with api/metadata/handler.py last night, not anything in the ec2 pipeline
[18:10] <zul> hallyn: yeah ive been using it, i dont think there is any big difference between the version we have in the archive and the ppa so I dont see the point
[18:11] <hallyn> zul: ok, so we'll stick with 0.9.8
[18:11] <hallyn> jjohansen: is apparmor able to filter bind to abstract unix socks based on name?
[18:12] <hallyn> stgraber: have you used macvlan or vlan in containers?
[18:12] <jjohansen> hallyn: not in precise
[18:14] <stgraber> hallyn: nope
[18:14] <hallyn> jjohansen: ok, thanks
[18:15] <hallyn> stgraber: ok.  i'm looking for the easiest way to start a container and have it visible to other machines on the lan
[18:15] <hallyn> i *assume* macvlan would accomplish that...
[18:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933656 in euca2ools (main) "euca-describe-instances --ipv4 does not include public ip address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933656
[19:03] <adam_g> zul: regarding bug 931236, the dbconfig-common stuff was taken from debian, no?
[19:03] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 931236 in keystone "keystone install is unnecessarily interactive" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931236
[19:03] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #578283 in asterisk (universe) "[needs-packaging] asterisk-moh-opsound, asterisk-core-sounds" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578283
[19:03] <zul> correct
[19:03] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #579045 in asterisk "[needs-packaging] openr2 -- MFC/R2 call setup library" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579045
[19:04] <adam_g> zul: are there plans to do the same for other projects like glance/nova?
[19:04] <zul> adam_g: it was in the back of my mind but im still mulling it over
[19:04] <adam_g> hmm
[19:05] <adam_g> is there a way of avoiding that using debconf?
[19:05] <zul> adam_g: yeah you can probably set the debconf priority level
[19:07] <adam_g> zul: ah, also: which is the correct place for KSL now: lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/keystone/essex or keystone/ksl ?
[19:07] <zul> adam_g: essex
[19:07] <adam_g> k
[19:07] <zul> ill delete the other branch
[19:31] <mtaylor> hey guys - if an oneiric server has been installed with byobu byobu/launch-by-default boolean true in its preseed, how do I globally disable it?
[19:31] <mtaylor> (I know how to disable it per-user, but I'd like to know how to switch the system setting to what it would be if I'd set that preseed option to false)
[19:32] <mtaylor> is it just a matter of deleting the file from /etc/profile.d?
[19:41] <TeTeT> mtaylor: maybe you can try dpkg-reconfigure byobu and see if there's an option presented
[19:41] <TeTeT> mtaylor: if the question is not raised, try different priorities (-plow, don't remember the others)
[19:42] <zul> mtaylor: i think you can use byobu-config to disable it
[19:44] <smoser> mtaylor, dpkg-reconfigure byobu ?
[19:44] <smoser> yeah
[19:44] <smoser> ah.
[19:44] <smoser> duh.
[19:45] <smoser> mtaylor, http://askubuntu.com/questions/63118/how-to-remove-bottom-information-panel-in-terminal-window-on-ubuntu-server-ami-i/63166#63166
[19:49] <kirkland> mtaylor: yeah, dpkg-reconfigure byobu
[19:51] <mjfork> anyone here expereinced an "Alias already defined" message from an include file in sudoers.d?  It is in the file a single time.  I cannot track down teh error
[20:14] <mgw> i'm looking for some input on how to manage non-cobbler managed DNS in a cobbler managed BIND setup
[20:14] <mgw> That is, DNS records that are not created by cobbler
[20:35] <mgw> is there any provision for cobbler+bind for handling such dns records (cname, ptr, srv, etc)? Or should I just hack up named.template etc?
[20:36] <gary_poster> hallyn, hi.  We had some times when sshd was not ready in lxc-start-ephemeral, so it would fail unnecessarily.  Graham Binns just gave us http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/844925 (see lines 143-164).  I have to run, but will be back in about 30--we can chat to see if we can get something like this included
[20:58] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933723 in bind9 (main) "resolvconf creating bogus resolv.conf file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933723
[21:01] <mgw> ok, so i've decided the best way to do what I'm trying is to add custom zone_templates in /etc/cobbler — but is there a way to get cobbler sync to pick up zone templates that don't have any host records?
[21:02] <mgw> meaning, no systems that use that domain
[21:14] <mtaylor> kirkland: thanks
[21:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933779 in lxc (universe) "lxc-start-ephemeral intermittently fails to connect to container" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933779
[21:41] <smelo> Greetings channel.  Is there a Ubuntu way to reconfigure a base install? (re-ip, re-name, re-key). Something along the lines of `dpkg-reconfigure base-system`?  I've cloned a template and need to reset the ip, hostname, ssh keys
[21:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #869635 in network-manager (main) "long delay at shutdown/reboot - network-manager doesn't close correctly" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869635
[22:18] <hallyn> gary_poster: looks reasonable.  thanks
[22:19] <flagg0204> when using preseed files for automated installation is it possible to use  a custome location for a users homedirectroy, during the account creation part
[22:20] <gary_poster> cool hallyn, thanks.  You probably saw I filed 933779 if you want to track it there.  Have a good night
[22:25] <hallyn> gary_poster: thanks.  I'll upload that precise fix in probably 2 hours - gnight
[22:27] <nevreiser> helo room. i have a concern about the alleged intended attack on the main DNS servers. can this UDP attack to spoof IP updates actually really work to disrupt network traffic or is here some way to block it ever being a problem?
[22:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933827 in samba (main) "smbd does not log anything to /var/log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933827
[22:49] <hallyn> gary_poster: fix uploaded
[23:31] <neohippie>  hi, i've created a group and i have added my user to the group using 'sudo usermod -aG group username' but when i type 'groups' I don't show as a member of the group. Any ideas as to why?
[23:46] <Daviey> smoser: nova ip addresses displaying is totally sckewed
[23:46] <RoyK> what web server would you guys recommend for a small or tiny vm for use with php? nginx or lighty?
[23:48] <Thermionix> nginx
[23:48] <Thermionix> with php-fpm
[23:55] <adam_g> Daviey: wrt to bug 933818 ?
[23:55] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 933818 in nova "public-ipv4 metadata url not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933818
[23:57] <Daviey> adam_g: might be related, http://pb.daviey.com/Bmx4/
[23:57] <Daviey> floating_ip is null, for some reason
[23:58] <adam_g> Daviey: floating ips association doesnt update the iinstance info cache
[23:59] <adam_g> (for some reason)