[00:00] "Develop Android Apps, Deploy on Meego, Tizen, WebOS, Ubuntu and More" [00:14] somehow that doesn't look very appealing to me [00:14] a proprietary layer of stuff that mostly behaves like android probably [00:17] github is down :C [00:17] come on github, you can do it [00:17] but it has a nice error 500 page [00:18] right, I am off to bed, it has been a fascinating evening, in which I discovered I was slightly odder than I thought I was [00:19] lol [00:20] derp, I left the door open on my bedroom [00:20] 37C in here (My rooms next to the bitcoin room) [00:21] damn mna [00:21] man [00:21] hah [00:21] 19 C in here [00:21] xD [00:21] with my bitcoin rig [00:21] ;/ [00:21] getting stuffy now [00:23] 27 C with the window open [00:24] you guys still got the heating on or something? [00:26] I suppose your comp uses about the same power as 2 of mine Azelphur [00:26] :) [00:26] hehe [00:26] not including the 16 monitors [00:26] ;/ [00:27] I am actually starting to get frustrated with a single 17" LCD screen [00:27] 5:4 ratio is the only good thing about it [00:32] BigRedS: Are you about? [00:44] yay, Double Fine Adventure will be getting a Linux port. [00:52] :D [00:53] i guess with $1.8m pledged so far, it'd be rude not to [00:54] clearly the backing rate has slowed down a lot. i wonder if it'll hit $3m before funding ends [00:55] "Pledge $15 or more [00:55] 28829 Backers [00:55] The finished game in all of its awesome glory DRM free on PC, Mac, and Linux, or via Steam for PC and Mac, exclusive access to the Beta on Steam, access to the video series, and access the private discussion community." [01:06] I dunno why steam don't get on with Linux, they must be aware that they are loosing money, with all these bundles going on [01:06] because steam is mostly old games that don't have linux ports? [01:07] that didn't stop them from a mac port [01:07] [Chris Oattes] Ambilight clone Software - http://www.cjo20.net/blog/?p=73 [01:10] \o/ [06:07] [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu Accomplishments Update - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/02/16/ubuntu-accomplishments-update/ [07:08] aloha [07:49] apt-get morning all [08:02] morning :) [08:33] Morning === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [08:37] apt-get coffee [08:40] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) [08:45] herrro [08:46] * daubers reflashes a stupid thing to make it less stupid [08:46] also o/ czajkowski [08:46] How's the new job? [08:48] it's good [08:52] in wolverhampton this week [08:52] Cool [09:05] * bigcalm makes an entrance [09:06] I'd better make an exit as well otherwise I'll be stuck here all day [09:15] * BigRedS groans [09:24] BigRedS: tummy ache? [09:30] Good morning all! === directhe` is now known as directhex [09:35] Morning [09:36] bigcalm: coincidentally, slightly. But more your, uh, 'humour' :) [09:37] :P [09:38] Grr, stupid router rebooting & giving out a new ip address to the server, can't connect to irssi [09:39] is archive.canonical.com incredibly slow for everyone? try to wget http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.1.102.62.orig.tar.gz [09:41] oimon: yeah, it's not moving for me [09:41] BigRedS: trying to do updates and it's killing me [09:41] spend 15 mins trying to download it [09:54] I am spending the day making an application I wrote some years ago worse [09:55] I love it when I get to do that [09:56] had a meeting yesterday when they listed all the stuff that they wanted to rip out [09:56] Oh, normally mine is very hurried feature-creep [09:57] and the percentage scale that they want to re-map so that it goes up to 125% because the numbers they were getting didn't look high enough [09:57] I feel like dilbert [09:58] haha! [09:58] AlanBell: fun days! [09:58] heya === andyloughran is now known as status === status is now known as andyloughran [09:59] howdy [10:00] the connection here is terrible... spitfire internets [10:01] anyone got any recommendations for wireless internet (microwave/radio) in Fitzrovia? [10:02] DGJones: server without a static addess? :( [10:02] funkyHat, Yeah, something I need to get sorted [10:03] went to go use skype [10:03] and it was uninstalled [10:03] hate when that happens [10:04] Skype is packaged for 12.04 now then? [10:04] well it was there yesterday till my macgic upgrade which cuased some disaperances [10:06] :( [10:06] funkyHat, It runs a desktop because it sometimes gets used for a quick bit of web browsing & that won't set a fixed ip for some reason, I may change it & put a server install on with no gui, that'll be easier [10:06] DGJones: or see if your router allows you to define permanent leases? [10:07] funkyHat, Never been able to get that to work [10:07] you can do it in network manager [10:07] or edit /etc/network/interfaces [10:13] czajkowski: where you working at these days? [10:13] \o/ [10:13] andyloughran: Canonical :) [10:14] :D [10:14] and how's the lovely Wolverhampton treating you? [10:14] yeah not bad [10:14] if I could understand the accents would be great :) [10:16] * bigcalm chuckles [10:16] Your tweet this morning made me smile [10:18] I could do a decent attempt at translating [10:18] oright duk, ows yam doin [10:18] that means, hello dear, how are you? [10:27] \o/ Sorted, was nothing to do with my server, *%$^*(()& dyndns dropping the forwarding [10:28] popey: Who did you switch to when dyndns did that to you? [10:28] mooo.com [10:28] * czajkowski hugs popey [10:28] hmm? [10:28] (that was an answer for DJones btw) [10:28] I guessed :) [10:29] * Myrtti has found Settlers Online. Doom impending. Productivity plummeting to even lower [10:29] how are the wolves people getting on with the czajkowski accent? [10:29] AlanBell: not bad, ordered my food last night and went to sleep [10:29] and got to and from places without getting too lost [10:34] perhaps they have been preparing for your arrival with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc0u7peZbIk [10:34] we should do one of those for stuff Ubuntu people say [10:35] spring cleaning lp Q&A [10:35] found another one for Ubuntu and not LP if folks want to help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/187785 [10:37] good morning everyone, [10:37] * bigcalm steams up his glasses with a pot noodle [10:37] Mmmmm [10:38] Hi brobostigon [10:38] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/187778 [10:38] hi bigcalm [10:38] * bigcalm glares at his windows server [10:38] It's been 'applying updates' to office for some time now [10:38] Silly thing [10:39] running office on a server, why ? [10:39] archive.canonical.com is having an issue bigcalm [10:39] popey: ms office [10:39] oh ☺ [10:39] I doubt that the two are linked ;) [10:39] hah [10:40] It's feature freeze today, yes? [10:40] i dunno, i could see how it was having issues if you went and installed office on it [10:40] czajkowski: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/187785 google for the laptop model, well known problem [10:40] i linked that question to a bug report [10:41] popey: cheers [10:41] * czajkowski tickles christel hows you darling [10:41] not too bad! [10:41] How's the table? [10:42] i LOVE the table :D [10:42] :D [10:42] the table loves you [10:45] I think it's a bit of a wooden relationship [10:46] i don't think i've ever spent as much time stroking hard wood as i have since it arrived [10:46] :) [10:46] bravo [10:46] Oh my [10:48] Morning davmor2 [10:49] morning all [10:49] morning bigcalm [10:50] mrevell, czajkowski: I should be on for tonight and coming to the hotel for a bit tomorrow fingers crossed got the bulk of the release done [10:51] davmor2: case the joint for pens you can half-inch [10:52] bigcalm: it might be worth thinking about for a co-working space if we can get the price right [10:53] davmor2: that's what I was thinking. Price is everything though [10:53] It'll be coming out of my own pocket, not work's [10:53] czajkowski: you heading back to the hotel once you have knocked off tonight, if so I can probably give you a lift back [10:54] cool thanks [10:57] bigcalm: are you buying a table? [10:58] christel: no, we already have one [10:58] aw what are you buying [10:58] bigcalm: it might be worth thinking about for a co-working space if we can get the price right [10:58] bigcalm: davmor2 this place is very nice [10:58] and not cold [10:59] ooh the place [10:59] i see [10:59] I am always trying to buy my soul back off of the devil [10:59] czajkowski: not cold is a goooooood thing [10:59] Though I think mrevell complained the most :P [11:03] can anyone help with unity? a showstopper is the buttons appearing in top left hand corner when windows are maximised. can i move them to the application instead? (i have already moved global menu to the application, but can't move the buttons) [11:03] you are not supposed to want to do that oimon [11:04] Haha [11:04] anyhow, that isn't a terrible place for them, at least they do follow the applications when not maximised [11:04] my buttons are on the right, so it's kind of essential [11:04] Stop doing what you want with your OS OS [11:04] if i can't do it, it's a deal breaker :( [11:05] welcome to the phrase "broken by design" === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:05] there must be an ugly fudge around it ? [11:06] although in this specific instance I don't quite see the problem [11:06] you want them shifted right 48px so they line up with the application rather than the launcher? [11:06] AlanBell: i want them shifted onto the app window . my buttons are on the right [11:06] so it's about a 1900 pixel shift [11:07] oh, buttons on the right, I see [11:07] you are not supposed to want to do that oimon [11:07] bigcalm: well Matt is smaller so maybe he gets colder quicker :) [11:07] * bigcalm rolls his eyes [11:07] Heh [11:08] but there must be a hack or app to uninstall that would fix it? [11:08] maybe gord knows [11:08] wut [11:09] no way that i know of [11:09] * oimon cries [11:09] oimon: I think it is a "patches welcome" thing [11:09] which does actually mean that a patch would be welcome [11:09] my current workaround is 10.04 [11:10] but I doubt anyone tasked with working on unity would do that patch because it isn't on john lea's magic design sheets [11:12] anyone seen onboard today? [11:17] bigcalm, davmor2: I grew up in the north east. I can handle cold when doing north eastern things: going to night clubs in a t-shirt in December, drinking broon ale in a t-shirt in December, and other activities in a t-shirt in December. Sitting at a laptop, though, in a cold room doesn't work for me. [11:19] oimon: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg07858.html not specifically about button positions, but an interesting read [11:20] mrevell: that's because you're less physically active sitting at a laptop, and therefore not burning off energy which keeps you warm [11:20] * bigcalm hugs mrevell [11:20] AlanBell: thanks, i'll read it. this guy wants the same thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/94105/can-i-remove-the-buttons-min-max-close-from-the-unity-panel-and-put-them-bac [11:20] sit at a laptop drinking broon ale [11:20] mrevell: if you were sitting at a laptop in a cold room drinking newkie broon and dancing it would be a different story [11:21] heh [11:23] * gordonjcp is currently sitting in a fairly cold loading bay, taking a break from working in a ridiculously overheated workshop [11:24] I'm also calibrating stuff that's going to live in an unheated high site so there's no point checking it at 25C when it's going to be sitting at 5C most of the time [11:26] Another web dev company has the same phone number as us except for the last digit. This is confusing for people who dial the wrong number [11:26] I wonder if we've lost any business to the other company [11:30] bigcalm: heh [11:30] bigcalm: my sister used to have a telephone number one digit different from a local cinema [11:30] quite often getting folk phoning up, "Oh hi, what have you got on tonight?" [11:30] Cute [11:31] "Well my brother's just come round so we're going off to the pub for a couple of pints, then we're going to get a curry, then head home and watch the West Wing and play on the playstation. How about you?" [11:53] I'm loving 'management' [12:06] Is that where everybody else works so you don't have to? [12:12] bigcalm: thats "deligation" [12:15] i see managers as the people who sit in meetings so i can actually get some coding done [12:15] \o/ [12:16] * popey chuckles at "deal breaker" and "showstopper" [12:17] gord: That's what I see as my job these days :( [12:17] ls [12:18] Permission Denied [12:18] . [12:18] .. [12:18] sudo ls [12:18] goat_porn [12:18] blackmail_footage [12:19] My goodness I'm tired [12:20] mrevell: davmor2: czajkowski: is tonight a bring your own booze place and does anybody intend to have a drink anyway? [12:20] bigcalm: I don't know and don't drink so I won't [12:21] bigcalm: no idea [12:22] czajkowski: would you like some cider? [12:22] I'm about to go to Waitrose for a birthday card [12:23] get him with his expensive taste in birthday cards [12:23] bigcalm: look on the website to see if they are licensed [12:23] bigcalm: I'm prolly ok tb [12:23] *tbh [12:23] czajkowski: fair do [12:24] davmor2: looking at it now [12:24] popey: local town has a Waitrose and a Co-op... Not a lot of choice there [12:24] co-op ftw [12:24] you in wolves? [12:25] They are licenced [12:25] popey: no he is out in the sticks of telford but not too far away [12:25] popey: I'm near Newport, Shropshire [12:26] From their wine list: Dom Perignon Brut, 1998 [12:26] [12:26] [12:26] [12:26] Bottle £139.95 [12:26] Oops [12:28] bigcalm: at that price you'll be ordering a couple of bottles then right? [12:28] At least! [12:28] * bigcalm waddles off for lunch === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:09] Any of you guys use Nagios ? [13:09] yeah [13:09] use check_by_ssh at all ? [13:10] not knowingly, does that ssh in and ask questions? [13:10] ssh in and run commands [13:10] so check_by_ssh -H IP -p port -C uptime [13:10] ah yeah, no [13:10] we use mon for that sort of thing [13:10] 12:43:07 up 91 days, 5:14, 2 users, load average: 1.44, 1.13, 1.04 [13:10] Works from my home box [13:11] Remote command execution failed: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 78-33-75-73.static.enta.net failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! [13:11] From my work box [13:11] :( [13:11] where are you going to? [13:11] Running same v of check_by_ssh [13:11] A customer site running centos [13:11] that looks like you're behund nat and trying to ssh to what is your public, natted, ip address [13:11] So i think it's a ssh related config issue on my work box [13:11] I think you can turn that off in ssh [13:12] yeah, been trying stuff and failing [13:12] :( [13:12] Hopeing someone else has seen it and goes 'Oh yeah' :) [13:12] I presume you can't just ssh in either? [13:13] I can just ssh [13:13] Still get that alert up though [13:13] So key pairs set up [13:13] I'm thinking it's the warning that's causing me the issues [13:13] ( I hope it is ) [13:13] hm, odd. Ah, so when you ssh you still get the warning [13:13] yeah, that would because it'd break key auth [13:14] AlanBell: I found out an accessibility thing I didn't know about the other day [13:14] didn't realise some people reverse the mouse buttons for RSI reasons [13:15] daubers, we had to do that for left handers as well [13:15] Was a horrible work around in terminal services :) [13:15] I knew about left handers, just didn't realise there was other reasons for it :) [13:18] lol fixed it BigRedS [13:19] -q = Quiet, suppresses errors :( [13:19] Why didn't i try that an hour ago! [13:19] daubers: you can use a mouse without clicking at all [13:19] diplo: aha! [13:20] AlanBell: By shouting at it? [13:23] * daubers has images of an office full of people shouting "MIDDLE CLICK" "SCROLL" "LEFT CLICK" [13:26] "Computer!" [13:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5e1vfaST2I [13:26] bah, german [13:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShY6xZWVGE&feature=related [13:30] \o/ Scotty [13:33] daubers: dwell click [13:34] onboard kind of includes it, might do a screencast of the new onboard at some point soon [13:35] \o/ [13:41] onboard in the host lets me type into a virtualbox guest which is nice === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === schwuk_ is now known as schwuk === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:13] how can i delete files in a dir with thousands of files? rm ./* says list to long [15:14] delete the directory instead? [15:14] ah, obviously [15:14] Or a perl script [15:15] I had to do that for a CCTV server which had thousands of images a day [15:15] rm/ls etc couldn't handle it [15:16] ye [15:16] ls was working, rm not [15:16] dogmatic69: find /dir -exec rm {} \; [15:16] popey: I think you'll find that is spelt "Compuuutar!" [15:16] actually, I think find as a -delete [15:17] It does, but i used to have issues with find as well with that many files [15:18] well, it runs away with all your I/O and sits there chewing it, but it gets there in the end [15:18] I regularly do that to stupid web developers who put session files in wrong places [15:18] yeah, wasn't great for me.. think find took minutes and perl was in seconds [15:18] Ah, I'd not even considered writing anything else [15:19] just an unlink in a readdir loop? [15:19] Yep [15:19] :) [15:19] Hm. If I'm feeling particularly nice i'll do that next time [15:20] else they can bloody well lose all I/O for half an hour as punishment :) [15:20] heh [15:20] I must chuck all these scripts into my github or something [15:20] I keep meaning to do that [15:20] and then I tidy them up [15:20] and then they stop working [15:20] May be useful to someone at some point.. probably not great scripts but they work for me [15:20] and so I give up for a bit [15:20] lol [15:21] yeah, last commit was 7 months ago [15:21] https://github.com/BigRedS/avi-utils [15:21] Probably when i set mine up, never commited to it yet [16:03] Anyone got a handy grub1 to grub2 dictionary? [16:19] davmor2: Chinese! [16:21] bigcalm: What? [16:21] * bigcalm taps his nose [16:23] bigcalm: Your nose is Chinese......are you taking your tablet's? [16:23] Heh [16:23] Imp [16:23] ugh. don't get me started on grub2 [16:25] anyone know how to generate a signed PDF file from libreoffice or something? [16:26] davmor2, whats that funkyness to get oneiric paid apps in the precice software centre? [16:27] davmor2, also hello ;) [16:29] gord: don't do it payments is broken in USC on precise currently should be fixed by the end of the day-ish-maybe-if-we-are-lucky [16:29] davmor2, right, not for buying stuff, dev stuff [16:30] gord: export SOFTWARE_CENTER_DISTRO_CODENAME='oneiric' [16:30] davmor2, ta very much :) [16:33] gord: no worries and hello [16:36] Bit warm in here [16:36] And the heating isn't on [16:37] Is Spring approaching us? [16:38] * popey wonders if AlanBell will set this up in his garden.. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/02/headless-chicken-solution/ [16:39] Creepy [16:40] More ethical than battery hens [16:40] gosh [16:42] "the removal of suffering" is an interesting line. buddhist chickens? [16:43] * bigcalm wonders if he'll have chicken tonight or not [16:46] Is it worth making my Xoom think it's running the US image so that it'll update to ICS [16:47] What will I lose from the UK version? [16:47] that article has scared me enough to put me off going to KFC tonight..... [16:47] bigcalm, not just custom mod it ? [16:48] diplo: I'm trying to be good with this device [16:48] :p [16:48] diplo: it actually works ok for me so far. But I do want ICS [16:49] Is ICS out for the SGS2 as an OTA update yet? [16:50] Not afaik [16:51] http://makeplaylive.com/ [16:51] pre-orders for kde spark thing [16:51] heh, just saw that myself [16:51] Follow Bryan as well ? [16:51] ya [16:52] popey: that looks nice [16:52] mrevell: did you manage to put CM on your phone? [16:52] bigcalm, erm [16:52] no [16:53] Didn't get a sufficiently round tuit. [16:53] All tablets appear to have HDMI outputs. Anybody here hook their tablet up to a monitor or TV? [16:53] Fair enough :) [16:55] bigcalm: i have [16:55] transformer can run an external screen at 1080p [16:56] I should run out and get a small hdmi connector cable to play with [16:57] Not sure when I would ever use it though [16:57] Maybe if I were presenting [16:58] i have a mini hdmi cable. for hooking my camera up to the tv! [17:03] directhex: now you can watch your home-made uhm.. "nature documentaries" on a big screen! [17:04] MartijnVdS, in 3d! [17:04] 8-) [17:05] bigcalm: i bought a couple of hdmi cables and the converters for cheap from amazon [17:06] I like my HDMI to DVI cables [17:06] amazon basic do some nice hdmi cables [17:07] * bigcalm hungry [17:07] Can I hold out for another 3 hours? [18:33] and home [18:39] czajkowski: hope you're hungry :) [18:39] I've just cooked tea for Hayley [18:40] * bigcalm can smell it and it's making my tummy grumble [18:40] heh [18:40] Will be setting off in 25 mins to find me a Mr Revell [18:43] cool [18:43] only in the door myself about 10 mins [18:56] .. [18:57] ... === agk0 is now known as GnomeVersionOfXc [18:58] * GnomeVersionOfXc hatNoUseNickSettings [18:58] pos [19:26] o.O [19:35] O_O [19:38] quite [19:38] O.o [19:39] Sir Patrick Moore O_. [19:43] ಠ_ಠ [19:44] I'm so mad right now I could flip a table, (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻) [19:44] (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ [19:44] * MartijnVdS has aliases for both [19:44] also, coloured version of [19:44]