[01:50] <ubuntuWi-Guest> hello h00k this is rick
[01:56] <h00k> hi!
[01:56] <h00k> hi ubuntuWi-Guest
[01:56] <h00k> (Rick)
[01:57] <h00k> hi, yotux
[01:58] <ubuntuWi-Guest> h00k, is your eye better?
[02:00] <yotux> hello:  hook
[02:00] <h00k> ubuntuWi-Guest: mostly, yeah. It's still a bit fuzzy in bright light
[02:01] <h00k> I'll be right back, a guest is leaving
[02:02] <ubuntuWi-Guest> yotux: are you in Madison?
[02:02] <yotux> Close enough Live in Portage
[02:03] <ubuntuWi-Guest> Is the Portage Plumber still living?
[02:04] <yotux> yes that business is still alive,  think its now called the country plumber unless we talking about two difference entities
[02:05] <ubuntuWi-Guest> A guy use to run into Camp Randall for all the football games and get the crowd going crazy
[02:05] <h00k> this is exigraff. I have taken over.
[02:06] <h00k> FEAR ME.
[02:06] <ubuntuWi-Guest> He was from Portage so they called him the Portage plumber
[02:06] <h00k> nah, h00k'll be right back.
[02:07] <yotux> Guest sorry not sure of that person
[02:08] <yotux> Guest sorry not sure of that person
[02:08] <ubuntuWi-Guest> I guess I am just showing my age again.
[02:08] <yotux> With age one gains wisdom or one would hope
[02:08] <ubuntuWi-Guest> Hope is my only hope
[02:11] <yotux> I am trying to multi task installing android SDK
[02:11] <yotux> Guest:  where are you from?
[02:11] <h00k> OKay
[02:11] <h00k> sorry about that.
[02:12] <yotux> np welcome back
[02:12] <h00k> exigraff stopped by.
[02:12] <h00k> Cool, so is it the three of us?
[02:12] <h00k> Cheesehead volunteered to be another speaker
[02:12] <ubuntuWi-Guest> I think so.
[02:12] <h00k> DavidLevin, greppy, KBme, mikeputnam, ripps, zz_bigbash: Ping, we're going to start
[02:13] <h00k> ubuntuWi-Guest: you can change your nickname by typing: /nick newnicknamehere
[02:14] <h00k> Well, yotux, you offered to speak, do you have any preferences on topic?
[02:14] <h00k> Let me link to the current idea for an agenda
[02:16] <yotux> hook:  this would be my first time presenting to a group about Ubuntu so I am open to any ideas
[02:17] <h00k> http://ubuntuone.com/07P46lzpEhOKEMnD2vORGd
[02:17] <h00k> yotux: take a look at that, page 2, "Concurrent tracks"
[02:17] <h00k> Installation/Applications
[02:18] <yotux> looking now
[02:18] <rickeee> I would also volunteer to create a powerpoint for you
[02:20] <h00k> but we're looking for two concurrent racks that will happen at the same time
[02:20] <rickeee> The tracks are suppose to be more demonstration than discussion
[02:20] <yotux> hook:  could do a daul boot,  or a live cd install
[02:20] <h00k> then the people will switch presentations
[02:21] <yotux> time wise dual boot could be time consuming depending how how part. are shrank
[02:22] <rickeee> With wubi can you just show the start phase which has the majority of the questions?
[02:22] <h00k> Wubi won't require repartitioning, that's true
[02:22] <h00k> alternatively, I could have a laptop ready for demo/dualboot
[02:23] <yotux> I used daul boot at the moment.  Use ubuntu 99% of the time
[02:23] <rickeee> I can also provide a laptop with only XP on it.  We could then show the live CD environment first followed by a wubi install
[02:25] <h00k> well, we certainly have the hardware
[02:25] <h00k> yotux: I suppose you're free to decide, if you're presenting ;)
[02:25] <yotux> where is the greater need?
[02:26] <h00k> Wubi, a live-repartition (usually safe if you use the end of a partition to put Ubuntu on)
[02:26] <yotux> For me I have made the leap to open source.   I am willing to make it work
[02:26] <yotux> Some of the people there may not be so warm to the idea
[02:27] <rickeee> I think the reason for the install demos is to calm the fears of newbies and also show them the options
[02:27] <h00k> and just pick one for demonstration sake
[02:27] <yotux> rickeee:  good point....
[02:27] <yotux> hook:  Live CD
[02:28] <h00k> Sure
[02:28]  * h00k shrugs
[02:28] <rickeee> I think we have to expect them to be hesitant to try this stuff on their own computers by themselves
[02:28] <yotux> also willing to do wubi...  double the commitment....
[02:28] <rickeee> If we have time, about 1 hour, showing both would be great
[02:29] <h00k> Or start one, start the other
[02:29] <h00k> two at the same time
[02:29] <yotux> I have multiple machines that I can bring
[02:29] <rickeee> I haven't done an install for a while.  How long does live CD take?
[02:30] <yotux> about 20 mins
[02:30] <h00k> a live USB takes 10, maybe, it's not too bad
[02:30] <h00k> on a decent machine.
[02:30] <yotux> alt are taking much longer for me....  closer to 40
[02:30] <rickeee> Is there some 'downtime" during the install to start the wubi ?
[02:31] <yotux> I would say yes,  after the initial  install questions
[02:31] <h00k> Sure, once you hit install, it asks questions. When you finish the questions, you're free to whatever until it's done.
[02:31] <h00k> And it installs while you answer the questions
[02:32] <rickeee> So we could start the Live CD until the 'downtime' and then start a second install using a pc with wubi already installed?
[02:33] <yotux> yes,  I think that could be done
[02:33] <rickeee> sounds like a plan
[02:34] <rickeee> I would think we can have an 'assistant' help you switching cables etc....
[02:34] <h00k> that works. We don't have to catch every use case.
[02:35] <rickeee> No, we are looking for showing the 'normal' case
[02:35] <yotux> I also have a couple of monitors.  2 LCDs
[02:36] <rickeee> That would be very helpful.  h00k, will you be able to get a projector?
[02:36] <h00k> rickeee: I think I can try to round one up
[02:37] <h00k> I can probably find out for sure in the next week or so
[02:37] <yotux> sorry I don't have one of those
[02:37] <h00k> The only other thing we don't have is any lightning talks, which we should open to the mailing list
[02:37] <rickeee> We would need to know so we can plan accordingly.  I also have one LCD I can bring
[02:39] <rickeee> I mentioned my use of Audacity last week for recording records and cassette tape.  Do you think this would qualify?
[02:40] <h00k> I think so, if you'd be illing
[02:40] <h00k> *willing
[02:40] <h00k> however, you're already doing a lot, s don't over-burden yourself
[02:41] <rickeee> I would be willing and I have a lot more time than you guys and I'm not a newlywed.
[02:41] <h00k> We should certainly ask for any others, too
[02:42] <rickeee> what about Ian
[02:42] <h00k> He volunteered to talk
[02:42] <h00k> I suppose Cheesehead gets Applications ;)
[02:44] <h00k> Brb, I have to check on the dogs, they're barking an awful lot.
[02:45] <rickeee> Is cheesehead in our meeting tonight?
[02:48] <h00k> and here.
[02:48] <h00k> he's not curently around
[02:48] <rickeee> can we find out if he will demo applications?
[02:50] <h00k> Yep
[02:51] <rickeee> will you contact him?
[02:52] <h00k> Yeah, I bet he reads the backlog for this, but I'll let you know as soon as I hear from him
[02:52] <rickeee> ok
[02:53] <rickeee> I would like to start working on the install powerpoint and put it out for everyone to see/share.  Is that OK?
[02:54] <yotux> think that would be great
[02:55] <rickeee> I will use ubuntu cloud again.  Yotux, I will need your email sometime so I can share with you.
[02:56] <yotux> kc9tux
[02:56] <yotux> its an arrl address
[02:56] <yotux> other wise you could look me up on launchpad
[02:57] <yotux> should also be listed there same a my irc nick
[02:57] <h00k> https://launchpad.net/~yotux
[02:57] <yotux> thanks
[02:58] <rickeee> ok
[02:59] <rickeee> h00k, anything else tonite?
[03:00] <h00k> rickeee: that's really all I had
[03:01] <rickeee> My dog just indicated a need to go outside.  I wil have to go.
[03:01] <h00k> I will send another email opening lightning talks to the mailing list
[03:01] <rickeee> Sounds good.  Good night to all!
[03:04] <yotux> sounds like a plan...
[03:04] <yotux> installing xubuntu on a older machine for a friend
[20:48]  * Cheesehead reads the scrollback
[20:48] <Cheesehead> Oh, I better answer some questions: Yes, No, five, tuesday, and "Ham and Swiss"
[20:48] <h00k> Oi.
[20:50] <Cheesehead> Happy to do a bunch of presenting with Track 2
[20:50] <Cheesehead> I'm not an expert on U1 (I don't use it and promptly uninstall it), nor Social Networking (I live under a rock and above another rock)
[20:51] <h00k> That's okay, I can jump in on either of those
[20:52] <Cheesehead> But I know my way adequately around Web Browsers, Backup, Networking, Multimedia, and LibreOffice
[20:53] <Cheesehead> ...I suppose I better refamiliarize with Ubuntu apps. I've been using Xubuntu for so many years...
[20:55] <h00k> I wonder what's in this horrid-looking 'soup booster'
[20:55] <Cheesehead> Usually MSG and peyote.
[20:56] <h00k> http://www.nissinfoods.com/bowlnoodles/hot-spicy/ these.
[20:57] <Cheesehead> Ah. You know that kind of non-nutrition may shorten your lifespan?
[20:57] <Cheesehead> You're in Wisconsin. Eat a stck of butter for lunch.
[20:57] <h00k> yep :(
[20:58] <Cheesehead> It will also shorten your lifespan, but tastes better.
[20:59] <Cheesehead> If we get questions about small-business software like Quickbooks integration, or LibreOffice-windows COM integration, I've learned quite a bit about those.
[20:59] <h00k> orly
[21:00] <Cheesehead> I've also compiled a bunch of custom Live-USB sticks using Debian Live. Not installers, working systems.
[21:02] <Cheesehead> I suppose those are good for lightning talks.
[21:02] <h00k> Oh, cool. That could work, too, but it'd be nice to get someone new to talk, to
[21:02] <Cheesehead> Agreed
[21:03] <Cheesehead> Nice to have *something* on the list to start with.
[21:07] <h00k> that's true
[21:08] <h00k> the quickbooks, I'd be interested in
[21:41] <Cheesehead> Quickbooks on Ubuntu is easy: VM is the only solution.
[21:42] <Cheesehead> Python to interact with QB, to pull data and do transactions...that can be Win on Linux
[21:42] <Cheesehead> s/on/or
[21:42] <Cheesehead> Win or Linux
[21:44] <Cheesehead> For example, I use a python script every two weeks that pulls a filtered set of the QB database, and then creates Invoices in LibreOffice for printing and mailing (and e-mailing)
[21:54] <Cheesehead> Back to Wausau:
[21:55] <Cheesehead> [Idea] Wausau session: How to Get Your Questions Answered (support)
[21:55] <Cheesehead> [Idea] Wausau session: How to Install New Software (Software Center)
[21:56] <Cheesehead> I suppose those questions will pop up anyhow, though.