[00:00] <djathoris> xibalba - what doe "ls -l" say about the directory?
[00:00] <terminhell> from terminal, cd into your index.php then lynx (or w3m) index.php
[00:01] <xibalba> one moment and i'll check
[00:01] <Nadd> In "additional-drivers" I can choose between "version-current" and "post-release-updates". Which one is right?
[00:02] <mun_> how come alt-f2 doesn't work in Gnome 3 in 11.10?
[00:02] <eightyeight> where is support for 12.04? i need to know if the kernel has been frozen
[00:02] <djathoris> Nadd - how close to the cutting edge do you dare to go?
[00:02] <iceroot> eightyeight: #ubuntu+1
[00:02] <eightyeight> iceroot: thx
[00:02] <Nadd> djathoris: I just want it to work right. Right now, system information says "driver: unknown"
[00:03] <xibalba> here is the output, http://paste.ubuntu.com/843752/
[00:03] <xibalba> if i Lynx indx.php it asked me if i want to download or cancle
[00:03] <djathoris> Nadd - current is usually safer
[00:03] <mun_> is there a way to set alt f2 in Gnome 3 to Run?
[00:04] <xibalba> terminhell : i've also tried a2endmod php5, reinstalling lamp-server, restarting apache2, etc...
[00:04] <xibalba> i was able to get it working on a fresh install of ubuntu on another vm guest, but not this sandbox i've already had in place
[00:04] <Nadd> djathoris: thanks a lot :) Do I have to mind at all what the system info says about the graphics driver?
[00:05] <kevCarb> test
[00:05] <xibalba> any thoughts?
[00:05] <xibalba> normally it's not this complicated :)
[00:06] <djathoris> Nadd - it counts. You basically have a choice between the generic vesa driver or using the particular driver for your card
[00:06] <xibalba> here is my php5.conf and load file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/843756/
[00:06] <starte> I just installed ubuntu on my mac. I'
[00:07] <starte> ve been running it on my windows
[00:07] <starte> and I
[00:07] <xibalba> ah shoot he timed out
[00:07] <cfhowlett> LOL
[00:07] <starte> sorry for the accidental enters. how can I connect my macbook with ubuntu to a hdmi in my computer. i did it successfully with my mac parition
[00:08] <bobweaver> Hi there I am a server and can not connect to it via ssh I have opened the ports in my firewall and also in my routers firewall and I still can not connect any idea of what I might be doing wrong
[00:08] <Nadd> djathoris: Ok, thanks. So I think I stick to the working one right now... the shock I got when it wasn't booting anymore still works :)
[00:09] <starte> bobweaver: you mean a irc client server?
[00:09] <xibalba> if anyone else wants to try and help me, let me know :)
[00:09] <xibalba> thanks
[00:10] <djathoris> xibalba - it sounds like you've set up lamp servers before
[00:10] <bobweaver> starlon,  nope
[00:10] <bobweaver> a web seerver
[00:10] <bobweaver> I think
[00:10] <bobweaver> it is not for IRC
[00:11] <starte> bobweaver: you can't connect to the internet?
[00:11] <xibalba> djathoris , i have but this one is stumping me.
[00:11] <djathoris> xibalba - I assume you did everything the same as usual?
[00:11] <benassi_> hellpp
[00:11] <xibalba> i'd like to think so, but some how i must have pebcac'd it
[00:11] <benassi_> HELOO*
[00:12] <starte> benassi: what
[00:12] <xibalba> i think i just need someone to review my configs, 2nd pair of eyes, i'm pretty blind :)
[00:12] <djathoris> xibalba - is the apache httpd.conf file set up to execute it?
[00:12] <cfhowlett> !ask|benassi_:
[00:12] <benassi_> starte How can I install curl ono my ubuntu server ?
[00:13] <xibalba> djathoris : i will double check now
[00:13] <Muelli> benassi_: aptitude install curl  I guess
[00:13] <starte> benassi: "sudo apt-get install curl"
[00:13] <xibalba> the main apach2e.conf includes both mods-enabled/*.conf and *.load
[00:13] <benassi_> ubottu sry  I wrote the word wrong
[00:13] <xibalba> php5 .conf/load are active in that directory
[00:13] <wagnor> djathoris: It works! I got artifacts all over the screen, but it works. I was able to run it in 800x600x16 in 60hz. Thanks for help.
[00:14] <booh-> I use now ubuntu 11.04 and I wonder if I upgrade to 11.10, will I have the crappy version of gnome that a lot of people hate?
[00:14] <starte> hey I'm trying to hook up my macbook with ubuntu to my tv screen. i know how using Mac OS but I'm stumped on how using ubuntu. Any help?
[00:14] <djathoris> wagnor - if you're getting artifacts in vesa mode, there might be something wrong in your system bios settings
[00:14] <Muelli> booh-: that's probably unity what you mean ;-) And well, you can kinda switch to real GNOME if you ilke.
[00:15] <booh-> Muelli: I want my actual gnome won't be destroy...
[00:15] <diego> hola a todos
[00:15] <zykotick9> !es | diego
[00:16] <booh-> Muelli, I just want a smooth upgrade... because I need some app new versions now...  But I fear "this" dist-upgrade... about losing all my gnome config and actual look and feel
[00:16] <djathoris> wagnor - also, is the card seated right?
[00:16] <starte> does anyone know how to hook up a macbook with ubuntu to a tv screen? i have a mini-dvi to hdmi connector already
[00:16] <diego> exit
[00:16] <cfhowlett> booh-   or you could try it and actually decide for yourself rather than "a lot of people"
[00:17] <benassi_> starte I did install but I get error again Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Facebook needs the CURL PHP extension.
[00:17] <wagnor_> djathoris: I'm pretty sure its graphic card damage - I get same type of artifacts just after the reset and same artifacts when windows is loading. I was able to repair the card for about 1.5months using kitchen oven without any changes in bios/drivers.
[00:17] <mun> thanks
[00:17] <djathoris> wagnor_ - you cooked your video card in an oven?
[00:17] <wagnor_> djathoris: yes
[00:17] <cfhowlett> booh-   xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu offer alternatives.  You can sample them harmlessly in your present installation via virtualbox
[00:18] <Muelli> :D
[00:18] <catcher> Hey y'all, how good is support for triple-headed graphics card these days? (assume nvidia)
[00:18] <mustafaerhann> actually i prefer wubi on windows better than virtual machines.
[00:18] <catcher> Is it pretty easy to set up?
[00:18] <cfhowlett> djathoris   just looked at irc thread and see "cooked your video card"...what the fandango
[00:18] <djathoris> wagnor_ - if it wasn't broken before, it probably is now
[00:19] <starte> benassi_: facebook? why's facebook part of your error message?
[00:19] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: you know, HDs go in the freezer and VideoCards in the oven - doesn't everyone know that?  </sarcasm>
[00:19] <wagnor_> djathoris: no, cooking did help, it was okay for about 1.5months, now I get the same artifacts as before cooking.
[00:19] <djathoris> cfhowlett - that can't be good for it
[00:19] <cfhowlett> zykotick9   darn.  I better go move the veggies and make room
[00:20] <kostasz> i have xubuntu 11.10 with compiz and after changing appearance styles not all of the windows undergo the change. Any idea?
[00:20] <wagnor_> and cooking while doesn't sound serious is just resoldering, it works quite often if you don't overcook it
[00:20] <kostasz> For example: Ubuntu Software Center, gcalctool, synaptic..
[00:21] <djathoris> wagnor_ - if the problem came back, maybe it was something else like the bus frequency or a conflict with another device?
[00:23] <eclipse_11> I just built a computer and Ubuntu is booting and restarting fine but when I shutdown from the terminal it wont shutdown completely: "Could not get a system bus. Make sure the message bus Daemon is running! Message: Failed to connnect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_so" anybody wanna help a newb?
[00:23] <wagnor_> djathoris: From what I've googled (and afair) it's just damaged memory banks - people reported same kind of artifacts - pink or green vertical stripes with gaps and random crashes
[00:23] <kostasz> any idea about compiz?
[00:23] <zykotick9> eclipse_11: what command are you trying to use to shutdown?  "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[00:24] <eclipse_11> oops might have forgotten the -h like i said...newb
[00:24] <xibalba> i think i need to go put a dunce cap on for a while
[00:24] <_Marcus> Hi
[00:25] <djathoris> xibalba - did you figure out the problem?
[00:25] <Nadd> Is it still possible to activate/deactivate desktop effects in 11.10 and if so, where?
[00:25] <xibalba> djathoris , ha no i wish. i must be serioulsy missing something trivial.
[00:26] <cfhowlett> _Marcus   greetings
[00:26] <Nickname123> is there an apt-get package for google v8?
[00:26] <xibalba> aha
[00:26] <xibalba> i've gotten closer
[00:26] <xibalba> at least
[00:26] <xibalba> it's working under /var/www/ at least ofr now
[00:26] <maestro> hell everyone, i am presently talking to u all via live cd of ubuntu. i need to recover my ubuntu. Please someone guide me
[00:27] <_Marcus> maestro: What is wrong?
[00:27] <maestro> hello*
[00:27] <maestro> _Marcus: I need to recover my ubuntu 11.10.
[00:27] <maestro> It crashed recntly
[00:28] <_Marcus> maestro: Well how did it crash?
[00:28] <mustafaerhann> brb!
[00:28] <mustafaerhann> !disconnect
[00:28] <maestro> _Marcus: I have no idea. I was doing normal c++ coding and had amarok and chromium on meanwhile. And suddenly it blacked out
[00:29] <_Marcus> maestro: Just went black?
[00:29] <_Marcus> maestro: Could you not get back in afterwards?
[00:29] <_Marcus> mustafaerhann: To leave just type /part #ubuntu
[00:29] <maestro> _Marcus: Yups...:(
[00:29] <djathoris> maestro - can the live cd mount your ubuntu partition?
[00:29] <_Marcus> maestro: That's weird.
[00:30] <maestro> _Marcus: Yeah seriously.. I myself am confused why the hell it even happened
[00:30] <_Marcus> maestro: You shuold answer djathoris, he may be able to help you better than me.
[00:30] <MarioMarques> alguem me ajuda, instalei o ubuntu hoje, como faz pra instalar programas com extensao tar.gz
[00:30] <whoever> is there a password on the guest account
[00:31] <maestro> djathoris: Sorry but i dont get you. I am a noob here not a regular ubuntu user. I began using it recently
[00:31] <cfhowlett> !es|MarioMarques
[00:31] <induz> i have thunderBird and its setup to get gMail account...can I delet the ThunderBird folder from my /home folder
[00:31] <whoever> or do i need to set it and do i need to do anything to enable it
[00:31] <induz> its getting big
[00:31] <_Marcus> induz: Does Thunderbird need that folder to run?
[00:32] <djathoris> maestro - the question is, is your ubuntu parition so corrupted that the files will never be recoverable? Not being able to boot it is a bad sign.
[00:32] <_Marcus> induz: Since it's getting big, I'm guessing it's the folder that holds the emails. Why would you delete it if it needs it?
[00:32] <maestro> djathoris: i am able to access my partition where i installed my ubuntu via live cd
[00:33] <djathoris> so you can access the partition but not boot from it?
[00:33] <cfhowlett> maestro   back up your /home - just in case a re-install is called for
[00:33] <maestro> djathoris: yups
[00:33] <maestro> cfhowlett: how do i do that?
[00:34] <djathoris> maestro - if you are fortunate, you might just need to reinstall grub?
[00:34] <catcher> Has anyone gotten a 3-head graphics card working in ubuntu?
[00:34] <induz> _Marcus, buts its gmail account
[00:34] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Hello again… :)
[00:34] <_Marcus> maestro: Do you have an external hard drive, such as a flash drive, that you can use for backing up?
[00:34] <maestro> djathoris: Please help me man if u can
[00:34] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   eh?
[00:34] <_Marcus> Canadian1296: Hi
[00:34] <maestro> _Marcus: No
[00:34] <zykotick9> catcher: i've heard there are issues with Unity and 3 headed displays, other DEs/WMs should work.
[00:34] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: I solved the problem with virtualbox, and gave to solution to _Marcus, but you had already left.
[00:34] <djathoris> maestro - how far does it get when you try to boot it?
[00:35] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   victory!
[00:35] <_Marcus> induz: If you cant support the hard drive space the emails take up, you shouldn't use Thunderbird.
[00:35] <maestro> djathoris: When i selected ubuntu from the grub it just rebooted
[00:35] <_Marcus> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/842521/
[00:35] <maestro> djathoris: Actually i am having dual boot ubuntu - windows machine here
[00:35] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Yes :)
[00:36] <Canadian1296> And thank you _Marcus, I lost the link :)
[00:36] <djathoris> maestro - that would tend to imply that reinstalling grub might work
[00:36] <cfhowlett> _Marcus   glad you're back up!
[00:36] <induz> _Marcus, true...I dont have much space on my Hdrive...but if I delet the folder is it going to be deleted from Gmail server too
[00:36] <maestro> djathoris: How do i reinstall it?
[00:36] <djathoris> maestro - there should be an option on the live cd for that
[00:36] <cfhowlett> maestro   agree that reinstall grub should work - tho I still don't understand how it scrambled.
[00:37] <_Marcus> induz: It shouldn't. If you just want to get rid of thunderbird, type "sudo apt-get remove tuhnderbird"
[00:37] <Chotaz> Can I get support for Linux Mint here? Since it's based on Ubuntu? If not, where can I go for help(ITC preferably).Can I get support for Linux Mint here? Since it's based on Ubuntu? If not, where can I go for help(ITC preferably).Can I get support for Linux Mint here? Since it's based on Ubuntu? If not, where can I go for help(ITC preferably).
[00:37] <_Marcus> induz: thunderbird*
[00:37] <cfhowlett> !minte|Chotaz
[00:37] <zykotick9> !mint | Chotaz
[00:37] <_Marcus> Chotaz: No need to say it multiple times.
[00:37] <maestro> cfhowlett: I have not even a single tiny idea what went wrong
[00:38] <altin> can anyone help me with this:
[00:38] <waheed> I have ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop my DVD driver doesn't work..how to solve ths??
[00:38] <altin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:38] <altin>  gimp : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) but 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[00:38] <altin> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:38] <Chotaz> zykotick9: Thanks
[00:38] <waheed> I have ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop my DVD driver doesn't work..how to solve ths??
[00:38] <cfhowlett> maestro   same here.  recovery/reboot and maybe look @ some logs
[00:38] <Chotaz> _Marcus: sorry about that
[00:38] <djathoris> maestro - chrome is made by google, that's dangerous by itself
[00:38] <_Marcus> Chotaz: It's okay
[00:38] <cfhowlett> waheed   what make and model is your dvd player
[00:39] <jhfjhgfjhgf> why is ubuntu so bloated?
[00:39] <jhfjhgfjhgf> unnecessary bloated
[00:39] <djathoris> it's a lot less bloated than win 7 or server 2008
[00:39] <cfhowlett> jhfjhgfjhgf   plz take this question to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:39] <jhfjhgfjhgf> makes my machine like a rtard.
[00:39] <maestro> djathoris: when i booted from cd it gave me no menu bu directly took me to the options where i had to choose in between live cd or to install it and when i choose install. i had the 3 options install alongside windows, use all hd, something else. I saw no recover option
[00:39] <_Marcus> jhfjhgfjhgf: It's not very bloated
[00:39] <_Marcus> jhfjhgfjhgf: Just remove what you don't want.
[00:39] <waheed> cfhowlett : there is no model written on it, but m laptop is toshiba satellite l655
[00:39] <altin> can anyone help me with this error please
[00:39] <altin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:39] <altin>  gimp : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) but 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[00:39] <altin> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:40] <Myrtti> jhfjhgfjhgf: did you have a Ubuntu support question or a problem?
[00:40] <cfhowlett> waheed   wait 1...
[00:40] <Canadian1296> altin: Run "sudo apt-get clean" then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" then "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[00:41] <djathoris> maestro - ttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:41] <Canadian1296> altin: Then let me know if it works
[00:41] <maestro> djathoris: there?
[00:41] <cfhowlett> waheed   is this lappy ubuntu only?
[00:41] <djathoris> maestro - just posted a link
[00:41] <waheed> cfhowlett : what do you mean?
[00:42] <cfhowlett> waheed   does your computer also boot windows?
[00:42] <maestro> djathoris: Yeah i am reading it now
[00:42] <altin> Canadian1296: still the same error, im trying to install gimp here
[00:42] <waheed> cfhowlett : yes
[00:42] <_Marcus> altin: What's happening?
[00:42] <altin> Canadian1296: gimp was installed but then removed from an update :/
[00:42] <altin> _Marcus: this is my error
[00:42] <altin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:42] <altin>  gimp : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) but 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[00:42] <altin> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:42] <_Marcus> !paste
[00:43] <Canadian1296> altin: I know. I'm trying to fix the dependancies. Did you run the 4 commands i gave you in order?
[00:43] <CiDhed> I fixed it.
[00:43] <cfhowlett> waheed   boot windows, see your accessories, system tools, system information.  GEt a make and model of your optical drive.  We may be able to locate the correct driver from there...
[00:43] <altin> Canadian1296: yes I did
[00:43] <zykotick9> altin: could you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy gimp" for us?
[00:43] <altin> zykotick9: ok 1 sec
[00:43] <_Marcus> altin: And you are trying to install gimp?
[00:44] <altin> _Marcus: yes
[00:44] <_Marcus> Welcome back, jhfjhgfjhgf
[00:44] <_Marcus> !info libglib2.0-0
[00:44] <jhfjhgfjhgf> i was having 'audio' problem. my pc would freeze up for a sec or so , any idea how to fix that?
[00:45] <Canadian1296> altin: then try "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0" ( zykotick9 It might fix his dependancy issue)
[00:45] <jhfjhgfjhgf> i looked up the logs it was something to do with xaudio
[00:45] <altin> Canadian1296: libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[00:45] <waheed> cfhowlett : it was working before in ubuntu
[00:46] <zykotick9> Canadian1296: it says it's getting the wrong version of libglib2, thus i suspect his gimp must be coming from a different repository (but can't confirm, as no pastebin has materialized)
[00:46] <_Marcus> jhfjhgfjhgf: Would you mind changing your name? It would make it easier to help you by alerting you when we type your name. jhfjhgfjhgf is kind of hard to type(I copied it so I can paste it)
[00:46] <maestro> Canadian1296: If u dont mind sharing, what is your pastebin about?
[00:46] <cfhowlett> waheed   good to know.
[00:46] <waheed> cfhowlett : then what is the problem
[00:46] <altin> zykotick9: _Marcus Canadian1296 http://paste.ubuntu.com/843803/
[00:46] <Myrtti> !tab | _Marcus
[00:46] <waheed> cfhowlett : wh it stopped working?
[00:47] <zykotick9> Canadian1296: altin yup - PPA problem.  altin good luck.
[00:47] <cfhowlett> waheed   something changed...something got overridden due to update, you changed a configuration, hardware failed, lots of possibilities
[00:47] <almoxarife> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1923311 <-- why gimp does not work
[00:47] <_Marcus> Myrtti: I'm using a web-based chat. To be exact, it's webchat.freenode.net. Pressing tab goes to the next link or text box.
[00:47] <z3r0n0id> is there a file in /etc that lets me know how many users are defined on the system?
[00:47] <djathoris> maestro - here's a another link, same topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[00:47] <altin> zykotick9: lol :P
[00:47] <maestro> djathoris: well that should solve the problem i guess the link you gave me earlier
[00:47] <waheed> cfhowlett: then can I restore default settings for the player
[00:48] <Myrtti> _Marcus: btw your own nick starts with a character that *sane* IRC clients don't automatically know how to nickcomplete
[00:48] <zykotick9> z3r0n0id: "wc -l /etc/passwd"
[00:48] <_Marcus> z4r0n0id: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[00:48] <cfhowlett> maestro   wonder if now is a good time to sudo apt-get purge gimp then resinstall
[00:48] <cfhowlett> waheed   log in to your computer under a different user and see if the drive works.
[00:48] <z3r0n0id> zykotick9: thank you
[00:48] <maestro> cfhowlett: what does purge do?
[00:49] <stevecam> is it possible to tell banshee to scan the media library for missing files?
[00:49] <cfhowlett> maestro   as I understand it, removes everything except the /home config and date files
[00:49] <almoxarife> maestro: purge will remove the app and the confs
[00:49] <zykotick9> maestro: purge removes config files (but not from home directories)
[00:49] <cfhowlett> almoxarife   so it DOES remove user/home/config?
[00:50] <cfhowlett> almoxarife   so it DOES remove user/home/configs
[00:50] <almoxarife> cfhowlett: no,
[00:50] <cfhowlett> almoxarife   OK
[00:50] <coder_> how to know what version of xubuntu i am using from the cmd?
[00:50] <bastidrazor> coder_: lsb_release -a
[00:50] <cfhowlett> maestro   suggested that to as a complete starting over for installing gimp.  should be considered radical surgery
[00:51] <maestro> cfhowlett, almoxarife, zykotick9: Then what am i supposed to do next? And will the softwares i installed on my ubuntu be saved?
[00:51] <victicom> coder, cat /proc/version
[00:51] <almoxarife> cfhowlett: did you look at the link i put up?
[00:51] <altin> zykotick9: so you cant help in this case :/ ?
[00:51] <paczasterr_> dfs
[00:51] <cfhowlett> maestro   that command would remove ALL default gimp packages.  Your data should be safe but feel free to back up.
[00:51] <zykotick9> victicom: FYI that's the kernel version info, not the "ubuntu" info
[00:52] <victicom> Yes... I just realized it.
[00:52] <victicom> *shake my head*
[00:52] <coder_> how do i install new themes in xubuntu 11.10?
[00:52] <cfhowlett> almoxarife   I did - that's why I suggested purge/reinstall.  NOT my first choice for a fix...
[00:52] <victicom> *facepalm* lol
[00:52]  * _Marcus 
[00:52] <maestro> cfhowlett: Ok after i purge gimp, what m i supposed to do next?
[00:53] <UndergrounD> coder gnome tools is an easy
[00:53] <almoxarife> cfhowlett: a re-install will have the process repeat itself, reverting to the last good gimp is the better choice(my opinion)
[00:53] <uni4dfx> what kind of a sadist created autotools... no wonder nobody wants to develop linux software
[00:53] <truexfan81> i just got xfce to run on xfce lol now i can use my gnome 2 themes on it :-)
[00:54] <cfhowlett> maestro   almoxarife good suggestion there to fall back with gimp
[00:54] <truexfan81> was supposed to say i got metacity to run on xfce*
[00:54] <_Marcus> uni4dfx: I want to develop Linux software :(
[00:54] <Canadian1296> zykotick9: Most likely… And altin, we need a pastebin to help you.
[00:54] <Lint> uni4dfx, there are some alternatives though
[00:54] <altin> Canadian1296: I just posted what you asked in pastebin...
[00:54] <djathoris> _Marcus - what are you looking to develop ?
[00:55] <zykotick9> Canadian1296: we got a pastebin, and it is a PPA version of Gimp (thus their issue with versioning)
[00:55] <Canadian1296> maestro: It's solving a problem with ubuntu cli in virtualbox.
[00:55] <_Marcus> djathoris: Something. I don't know.
[00:55] <maestro> cfhowlett almoxarife: so do i run this command? "sudo apt-get reinstall gimp"
[00:55] <coder_> I am trying to install a theme in xubuntu 11.10 but I am new to xubuntu, can anybody tell me how?
[00:55] <almoxarife> maestro: no
[00:55] <djathoris> _Marcus - what programing languages are you good with?
[00:55] <Canadian1296> zykotick9 altin Yeah, I didnt see that (I was away from the computer).
[00:55] <almoxarife> maestro: you using 11.10?
[00:55] <_Marcus> djathoris: C++, Java
[00:55] <victicom> lsb_release -a didn't give me much useful info... however, lsb_release -r did... so... coder, I'd read the man pages of lsb_release
[00:56] <maestro> Canadian1296: mind telling me what cli is?
[00:56] <victicom> As for themes...
[00:56] <maestro> almoxarife, yes
[00:56] <djathoris> _Marcus 0 think you'd be up for some gtk programming?
[00:56] <uni4dfx> why is automake saying Makefile.in not found when it is clearly there.... ffs makes you wanna punch the author
[00:56] <_Marcus> maestro: CLI is command line. tty. text.
[00:56] <Canadian1296> maestro: Command line interface. No gui (graphic user interface), so no desktop or anything. Just a command line.
[00:56] <_Marcus> djathoris: I don't have a GUI.
[00:56] <almoxarife> maestro: did you look at the link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1923311 ??
[00:56] <victicom> CLI means Command Line Interface?
[00:56] <_Marcus> victicom: Yes
[00:56] <victicom> I know.
[00:57] <djathoris> _Marcus - no X? :(
[00:57] <victicom> I was stating that as in... "I thought you knew?"
[00:57] <maestro> Canadian1296: Oh...! now that was very ignorant of me. I read that... Well thanks for telling though
[00:57] <UndergrounD> use gnome tools to install themes
[00:57] <Canadian1296> maestro: No problem, that's what we're here for :)
[00:57]  * zykotick9 used to use the TLA CLI a lot, but recently heard it's really a Microsoft-ism, so stopped using it ;)
[00:58] <ServerSaler> I am selling dedicated servers (VPS) in different countries Windows XP, 2003,2008, Seven, Cent OS, Fedora, Debian, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, OpenSuse, FreeBSD, Arch Linux. Write only PM who need them.
[00:58] <_Marcus> djathoris: Nope. Running text mode saves resources, and since I'm not using the GUI, I can remove it. I saved resources and hard drive space by using CLI.
[00:58] <cfhowlett> !spam|ServerSaler
[00:58] <almoxarife> does cli have a gui?
[00:58] <ServerSaler> no
[00:58] <_Marcus> ServerSaler: Not on topic.
[00:58] <_Marcus> ServerSaler: And spam
[00:58] <ServerSaler> what spam?
[00:58] <victicom> No.
[00:58] <ServerSaler> not spam
[00:58] <_Marcus> !ot | ServerSaler
[00:58] <ServerSaler> i am sale servers
[00:58] <iceroot> ServerSaler: this is for ubuntu support
[00:58] <ServerSaler> ohh
[00:59] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Thank you. I was about to ask what the ubottu tag was for spam
[00:59] <ServerSaler> pi4alka
[00:59] <iceroot> ServerSaler: please dont use this channel for other topics
[00:59] <ServerSaler> ok
[00:59] <victicom> ty
[00:59] <iceroot> ServerSaler: thank you
[00:59] <djathoris> _Marcus - at least you could always write a command line utility. or maybe go graphical with svga lib. Though you could always reinstall X. Xfce is lighter weight
[00:59] <Lint> wow real russian spammer
[00:59] <ServerSaler> hah
[01:00] <overclucker> _Marcus: ncurses
[01:00] <_Marcus> overclucker: What?
[01:00] <_Marcus> djathoris: I can always just make another virtual machine if I want a GUI, I'm running this one in Virtual Box already.
[01:00] <maestro> almoxarife: Ok i will try these commands. But before i leave from here i have some more doubts.
[01:01] <cfhowlett> maestro   back up your gimp data.
[01:01] <almoxarife> maestro: your /home/................... data is safe
[01:01] <djathoris> _Marcus - so think of an idea and then start writing your app?
[01:02] <Canadian1296> _Marcus: What host machine are you using?
[01:02] <overclucker> _Marcus: ncurses is for pretty cli programming
[01:02] <almoxarife> maestro: you could upgrade to the new ubuntu, and have the new gimp, not sure if that is an option
[01:02] <_Marcus> djathoris: What do you mean by "app"
[01:02] <_Marcus> Canadian1296: What do you mean "host machine"?
[01:03] <djathoris> _Marcus - you said you wanted to program something for linux?
[01:03] <Canadian1296> _Marcus: I mean you're running Ubuntu in VirtualBox. What OS is installed on the physical computer you're at?
[01:03] <_Marcus> djathoris: Oh.
[01:03] <_Marcus> Canadian1296: Windows XP.
[01:04] <Canadian1296> _Marcus: Okay, I was just wondering. It explains not being familiar with "app" (more of a Mac idea)
[01:04] <coder_> how do you install themes on xubuntu 11.10?
[01:04] <maestro> almoxarife: My computer has broadcom wifi and bluetooth card installed on motherboard. On my installed ubuntu i was not able to access my bluetooth. And even to access my wifi i had to do this :http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://tuxcanfly.appspot.com/2011/10/Ubuntu-11-10-Broadcom-Wifi-driver-43xx&usg=AFQjCNFCvkQ7lcwy5qJ-dG3aWxhajd_Stw
[01:04] <djathoris> _Marcus - one other thing you could try. if you write your app in tcl/tk you can write it in windows and have it runnable in linux X
[01:04] <maestro> almoxarife: Can u help me out with my bluetooth problem here?
[01:04] <_Marcus> Canadian1296: I had 2 Macs(iMac and Macbook) for awhile, though I always called them programs. I called smartphone applications "apps" though.
[01:05] <_Marcus> djathoris: Cross platform compiling? I've heard of it but never got how it worked.
[01:05] <altin> Canadian1296: _Marcus fixed the problem
[01:05] <altin> thnx :0
[01:05] <_Marcus> altin: Great
[01:06] <_Marcus> altin: Have fun with Gimp
[01:06] <coder_> how do you install new themes on xubuntu 11.10?
[01:06] <overclucker> _Marcus: just use code that can be compiled on either system. nothing (or little) that is platform dependant
[01:06] <bagels> is nobody ever awake in #winehq?
[01:06] <Canadian1296> altin: Well I didn't really do much, but glad to hear you got it :)
[01:06] <maestro> almoxarife: U here?
[01:06] <djathoris> _Marcus - http://tcl.tk/
[01:07] <bastidrazor> bagels: bankers hours
[01:07] <cfhowlett> coder_   http://mydigitalbath.wordpress.com/2008/03/12/howto-install-themes-on-xubuntu/
[01:08] <coder_> thank you
[01:08] <bagels> bastidrazor, lol seriously?
[01:08] <cfhowlett> coder_   be safe/have fun
[01:08] <maestro> cfhowlett: can u help me with this problem?
[01:08] <maestro> My computer has broadcom wifi and bluetooth card installed on motherboard. On my installed ubuntu i was not able to access my bluetooth. And even to access my wifi i had to do this :http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://tuxcanfly.appspot.com/2011/10/Ubuntu-11-10-Broadcom-Wifi-driver-43xx&usg=AFQjCNFCvkQ7lcwy5qJ-dG3aWxhajd_Stw
[01:08] <WhiteEye> Hellow marchmellows
[01:09] <cfhowlett> maestro   sorry IDK anything about bluetooth
[01:09] <cfhowlett> WhiteEye   greetings
[01:09] <WhiteEye> whats going on ?
[01:09] <maestro> cfhowlett: no problem. u know any one who can help me with this
[01:09] <WhiteEye> maestro: what u need help with?
[01:10] <maestro> cfhowlett: My computer has broadcom wifi and bluetooth card installed on motherboard. On my installed ubuntu i was not able to access my bluetooth. And even to access my wifi i had to do this :http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://tuxcanfly.appspot.com/2011/10/Ubuntu-11-10-Broadcom-Wifi-driver-43xx&usg=AFQjCNFCvkQ7lcwy5qJ-dG3aWxhajd_Stw
[01:10] <FatsDT> 'adduser user group' adds a user to a group (both /etc/group and /etc/group-).  'deluser user group' removes the user from the group in /etc/group but not /etc/group-.  Is this a bug?
[01:10] <jn_> how can i Disable "Allow Pixelshader" in the very latest version of wine ?
[01:10] <jn_> option dose not appear the usually place in winecfg tab
[01:11] <maestro> WhiteEye: Sorry by mistake i sent it to cfhowlett. hope u saw my trouble
[01:11] <WhiteEye> maestro: Im running backtrack, we got a LOT of bluetooth and wifi tools, lol.
[01:11] <cfhowlett> maestro   ask the channel about blue tooth support - and skip posting the wifi article since you've already got that working
[01:11] <WhiteEye> but I only know how to hack them. lol
[01:12] <maestro> WhiteEye: i rememeber wen i was installin ubuntu on the first place i had it disabled from the windows.
[01:12] <Canadian1296> WhiteEye: respect
[01:12] <maestro> cfhowlett: sorry about that last post. i mistakenly sent it to u. sorry abt that
[01:13] <cfhowlett> maestro   no prob.  Good luck with the fix.
[01:13] <maestro> cfhowlett: yeah thanks..:)
[01:14] <maestro> WhiteEye: Do i need some module other than Broadcom STA Driver in order to have the bluetooth working?
[01:15] <sirkaya> hello
[01:15] <jn_> can i run a wine command and disable pixelshader with some kind of parameter?
[01:15] <WhiteEye> I really enjoy this channel! all the channels for backtrack are full of arogant silent people. logged in 24/7 but responds only to "hi level" hackers...-_--
[01:15] <cfhowlett> sirkaya   greetings
[01:15] <WhiteEye> its like a freaking ghetto
[01:15] <Kush2burn> lol\
[01:16] <bobweaver> rotflmao WhiteEye
[01:16] <maestro> WhiteEye: lol..:D
[01:16] <Kush2burn> im new to linux im digging it
[01:16] <WhiteEye> well. feel free to ask. thats what we are kinda here for. ask and answear
[01:16] <bobweaver> right on O.GKushto Burn
[01:16] <bobweaver> right on L.A  Kush to Burn
[01:17] <Kush2burn> my first question is whats the best computer language to learn for databasing/or even just cracking into networks
[01:17] <bobweaver> !hacker
[01:17] <WhiteEye> I know its not the right place to ask but Im willing to give it a shot! anyone know anything about ssh keys?
[01:17] <cfhowlett> !ot|kush2burn
[01:18] <pconwell> quick question, I need to set up a symlink to a directory that I do not own (but have access to)
[01:20] <goathouse774> I've got xubuntu burned as an image to a cdr.  what's the best way to test it:  restart the comp with cd in drive; or run it in windows?
[01:20] <tensorpudding> you can't run it in windows
[01:20] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   checksum!
[01:20] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|goathouse774
[01:20] <tensorpudding> checksumming is a good idea
[01:20] <tensorpudding> compare with the md5 or sha-1
[01:20] <goathouse774> Checksum?
[01:21] <tensorpudding> a checksum is a function which takes a file and collapses it down to a brief string of characters, called a hash
[01:21] <WhiteEye> im running backtrack, but its based on ubuntu so nuthing wrong in hanging out here in my favourtie room
[01:21] <jswagner> i thought there was a feature on the boot menu that allowed you to test the content of the disc
[01:22] <tensorpudding> you can compare the hash you get from the file with a hash on record to verify that the file is complete and unmodified
[01:22] <WhiteEye> jswagner: I know there is, I got it on my ubuntu server
[01:22] <Canadian1296> jswagner: There should be, but I'd still recommend a hash check
[01:22] <tensorpudding> because small changes in the original file will make large changes in the hash
[01:23] <tensorpudding> besides verifying disk images it's also good for making sure that the image you have is not tampered with by an untrusted third party
[01:23] <bobweaver> WhiteEye,  this room is for ubuntu question you are more then welcome to hang out look at some question. but if you would like to  talk about cracking and div's of ubuntu best in the #off-topic channel
[01:24] <tensorpudding> cracking is not ontopic on #ubuntu-offtopic either, it goes against freenode policy
[01:24] <WhiteEye> bobweaver: yeah I know :) sure thing!:D
[01:24] <foenix> anyone know how i can get a world clock on the desktop again?
[01:24] <bobweaver> good point tensorpudding
[01:24] <jn_> How can i disable pixel shader in wine ?
[01:25] <jswagner> jn_: this is answered on the official Wine wiki
[01:25] <bobweaver> jn you are talking about http://wiki.winehq.org/DirectX-Shaders   ?
[01:25] <WhiteEye> have anyone tested the new ubuntu server?, really hard to install. Ive tried like 4 times but i feel like an super noob since I cant get it up
[01:26] <jswagner> WhiteEye: what specifically are you having issues with?
[01:26] <cfhowlett> WhiteEye   fee free to check in a #ubuntu-server
[01:26] <bobweaver> WhiteEye,  12.04 ?
[01:26] <jswagner> i can't imagine it's vastly different than any previous ubuntu server release
[01:27] <jn_> <jswagner> could you give me a link? I can't find it, also im using the latest version of wine, did the option not use to be under a tab in winecfg? becouse its not there anymore
[01:27] <jswagner> someone just linked it
[01:28] <jn_> ok
[01:28] <jswagner> it was the first result on google for 'wine disable pixel shader'
[01:29] <WhiteEye> jswagner: well. it freezes on first boot. like all the processes just wont load
[01:29] <jswagner> during install or post-install?  could be a kernel/module issue?  might be a good idea to file a bug.
[01:31] <pconwell> I'm trying to write to a symlink directory that I do not own. In other words user1 is trying to write to a directory owned by user2 that is symlinked in user1's home directory. What is the best way to make this happen?
[01:33] <goathouse774> Check sums are the same
[01:33] <TheCowboy> Hi, I was having no problems and then rebooted and I get the following error when I try to boot into Ubuntu: error couldn't read file
[01:33] <TheCowboy> searching I see a couple different things suggested and i'm not sure which to try first
[01:35] <zombyfied> when is XerxeS coming out?
[01:35] <zombyfied> i heard it will be awesome GUI and nice gnome 3 experience.
[01:35] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   then you downloaded a good .iso.  To be certain, check that the cdrom burned properly.  See "Checking the CD directly:  http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=24816
[01:36] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   then you downloaded a good .iso.  To be certain, check that the cdrom burned properly.  See "Checking the CD directly:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:36] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   sorry, dual firefox tags
[01:39] <mustafaerhann> foenix try screenlets.
[01:40] <bobweaver> dang no matter how many time I install ubuntu server I get a busybox every time
[01:41] <bobweaver> I will try to install debian and see if it happens
[01:42] <aleksa> are any tvs tested
[01:42] <z3r0n0id> I need to move all files that the file name is lowercase into another folder
[01:42] <delkin> http://pastebin.com/NKbnh8q8
[01:43] <paideia> oi galera
[01:43] <Lint> !el
[01:43] <delkin> http://pastebin.com/NKbnh8q8
[01:43] <cfhowlett> !br|paideia
[01:43] <delkin> É a rasgar!
[01:43] <goathouse774> What is the help taking about?  I'm not familiar with command line.
[01:44] <bobweaver> delkin,  you have tried with the -i option in mv ?
[01:44] <paideia> br my ass
[01:44] <goathouse774> Can't I just check it upon reboot as it offers as another method?
[01:44] <bobweaver> z3r0n0id, ,  you have tried with the -i option in mv ?
[01:44] <bobweaver> sorry delkin
[01:44] <cfhowlett> paideia   hm.  my google-fu said it's a portuguese saying.  No disrespect intended
[01:45] <delkin> bobweaver, bob the builder?
[01:45] <paideia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT4ub6SHvG4&feature=related
[01:46] <cfhowlett> !ot|paideia
[01:47] <delkin> cfhowlett, WE ARE ANONYMOUS !!!
[01:47] <ob1t> hi people,
[01:47] <z3r0n0id> bobweaver: i dont know how to type the cmd; mv -i ~/etc upperc?
[01:47] <paideia> you don't forget
[01:48] <cfhowlett> ob1t   greetings
[01:48] <ob1t> :)
[01:48] <a123> join #newchannel345
[01:48] <cfhowlett> delkin   do you have an ubuntu support question?
[01:49] <goathouse774> Which method for checking the disc is simplest, the automated script?
[01:49] <bobweaver> z3r0n0id, try your question on the #bash channel
[01:49] <ob1t> i need some help
[01:50] <z3r0n0id> bobweaver: ok il do that, thanks.
[01:50] <cfhowlett> ob1t    ask away
[01:50] <bobweaver> z3r0n0id,  sorry could nbot help
[01:50] <ob1t> i installed ubuntu 11.10 and i'm having problem with the sound card
[01:53] <Shortstraw8> I just did a update and was using mozilla all the sudden it stopped responding so I quit and restarted both the browser and computer because my videos online do not work everything says it is installed and up to date any Ideas.
[01:55] <ob1t> anybody??
[01:55] <ob1t> :s
[01:55] <goathouse774> I typed the example for scripted in cmd.exe and it is fail
[01:56] <Shortstraw8> I just did a update and was using mozilla all the sudden it stopped responding so I quit and restarted both the browser and computer because my videos online do not work everything says it is installed and up to date any Ideas.
[01:57] <_Marcus> Hello
[02:00] <cfhowlett> ob1t   see this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885240
[02:01] <ob1t> ok thanks
[02:07] <somnambulant> Hello I'd like to change the default/global screensaver settings for all users (using kubuntu as a terminal server)... and also so the users can't change the setting
[02:07] <somnambulant> any ideas?
[02:08] <dejahthoris> somnambulant - you could edit the xorg.conf (maybe?)
[02:08] <Firebolt> I get "ASSERT: "interface->childCount() == children.count()" in file adaptor.cpp, line 200" when I try to run some Qt-based programs, any fix that isn't running them as root?
[02:09] <rksii> hello, anyone here?
[02:10] <dejahthoris> no, we're not here
[02:10] <rksii> lol, it just seems awfully quiet
[02:10] <cfhowlett> rksii   greetings.  What's the problem?
[02:11] <rksii> I am trying to get suspend/hibernate to work on my Toshiba L775
[02:12] <jodi> topic...
[02:12] <rksii> I've tried all the quirks options and several of the scripts I found searching the community forums and other places but no luck
[02:13] <rksii> thought maybe someone here would have some advice
[02:13] <_Marcus> rksii: What exactly is happening?
[02:15] <rksii> in both cases (suspend and hibernate) it goes to a black screen with what looks like a non-blinking text cursor in the top-left corner. It doesn't power off the screen, wireless lan, fans, or anything else that I can tell. And, it will not resume from this state. It is frozen and I have to hold the power button until it powers off and then reboot
[02:16] <rksii> If I do a hibernate, it will sometimes restore from the saved state when it reboots.
[02:16] <_Marcus> rksii: I can't tell if that is a problem with Ubuntu or with the Tobisha hardware.
[02:16] <Jimu> anyone know how to alter the unity launcher style? bonus points if you know a resource for how to create GTK3 themes - should be easy using CSS
[02:16] <mun> hi
[02:16] <Canadian1296> mun:  Hi
[02:16] <rksii> I'm not sure either _Marcus
[02:16] <mun> i'm using Gnome 3 in 11.10, but how do i set the default to compiz?
[02:17] <_Marcus> rksii: I found this online: http://nixliving.blogspot.com/2010/03/workaround-for-broken-ubuntu-suspend.html
[02:17] <rksii> I have looked in the pm-suspend.log and pm-powersave.log but there doesn't appear to be any error messages or anything that gives me a clue
[02:18] <_Marcus> rksii: How long are you waiting until you force shutdown your machine?
[02:18] <Wabs> I was wondering if someone could recommend a VNC client so I can remote my systems at work?
[02:19] <cfhowlett> wabs vinagre
[02:19] <Wabs> Thank you cfhowlett
[02:19] <rksii> I have waited for over an hour before forcing it to power off
[02:20] <rksii> I will try the advice on that page to see if it works for me
[02:20] <_Marcus> rksii: Intresting. As I don't have a Tobisha laptop, I cannot reproduce the problem. You should read that page though.
[02:21] <rksii> unfortunately it looks like I will have to track down the powersaved -- apt-get is not finding it
[02:22] <_Marcus> !find powersaved
[02:22] <_Marcus> !find powersave
[02:22] <_Marcus> rksii: There you go
[02:23] <helo> i just installed a new motherboard with onboard (apu) ati video, and my monitor just goes to sleep when i boot
[02:23] <_Marcus> rksii: I'm guessing you want one of the laptop-mode-tools one
[02:23] <helo> i tried disabling lightdm so X wouldn't start, and added "nomodeset" to the grub options, but it still goes to sleep every time
[02:24] <dejahthoris> helo - your monitor literally goes into powersave/sleep mode?
[02:24] <helo> yeah
[02:24] <helo> i see the initial boot console messages, and then it just goes to sleep
[02:24] <rksii> ok, its been a while since I ran linux and when I did I ran slackware -- where do you run that !find command to get that info?
[02:25] <helo> i'm using the vga port (don't have the right kind of dvi adapter)
[02:25] <dejahthoris> helo - have you tried this m/b with other monitors?
[02:25] <_Marcus> rksii: That was a command for ubottu, the bot here. It just gave you info about it
[02:25] <helo> it seems to be a mode setting problem, or something that is triggering that port to stop sending a signal
[02:25] <helo> i installed fglrx, but no change
[02:25] <_Marcus> !info powersave | rksii, see the link:
[02:25] <diverdude> how do i restart rsyslog with -r switch?
[02:25] <_Marcus> eh
[02:26] <_Marcus> Just look up
[02:26] <_Marcus> rksii: Do you have an intel processor?
[02:27] <dejahthoris> helo - which video driver are you using generic vesa or ati?
[02:27] <helo> i tried vesa and fglrx in xorg.conf
[02:27] <rksii> ok, yes -- I see the link now where it says it doesn't exist in oneiric
[02:27] <dejahthoris> helo - what resolution/refresh rate are you trying to run it at?
[02:27] <somnambulant> dejahthoris: after a little digging its actually in /usr/share/kde4/config/....
[02:28] <rksii> yes, I have an intel processor -- an i3
[02:28] <dejahthoris> somnambulant - that good info to know
[02:29] <_Marcus> info laptop-mode-tools
[02:29] <_Marcus> !info laptop-mode-tools
[02:29] <_Marcus> rksii: Try "apt-get install laptop-mode-tools"
[02:30] <rksii> I just did that -- it installed fine but no powersave or powersaved on my machine
[02:30] <rksii> no, sorry, there is a /sys/module/i915/parameters/powersave
[02:30] <dejahthoris> rksii - did you reboot after installing?
[02:30] <_Marcus> dejahthoris: I don't think you need to reboot after install software.
[02:31] <dejahthoris> _Marcus - when it's a system daemon you're installing ...
[02:31] <rksii> that powersave file is just a text file with a single character:  1
[02:32] <SawtoothID> Www.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <_Marcus> rksii: I don't know what the solution to your problem is. If laptop-mode-tools isn't working, then do "sudo apt-get remove laptop-mode-tools"
[02:33] <rksii> I don't know if its working or not...should I try to do the pm-suspend again?
[02:33] <_Marcus> rksii: yes
[02:33] <rksii> that webpage said to do a powersave -u but there was no powersave program installed
[02:34] <meskarune> pm-suspend isn't laptop mode tools
[02:34] <SoulSurvivor> Where is the Ubuntu Development channel?
[02:34] <dejahthoris> someone named azathot got it working at http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Powersave-25227.shtml
[02:34] <meskarune> but you can set laptop mode tools to use that if pm-utils is intalled
[02:34] <rksii> pm-suspend did the same things as before -- black screen but not powering off
[02:35] <bazhang> Sir_Konrad, #ubuntu-devel
[02:36] <_Marcus> !powermanagment
[02:36] <_Marcus> rksii: So I have no idea on how to fix it. Ask again in the channel, someone else may be able to help.
[02:37] <dejahthoris> to quote Azathot on October 20, 2011 5:57 am "It worked well on my Toshiba l775-13V with Ubuntu 11.10 :)"
[02:38] <rksii> I will try downloading that powersave, dejahthoris.  It looks like it comes as source so I will have to build it
[02:39] <meskarune> rksil: when you type "sudo pm-suspend" in the terminal your screen goes black but the computer stays on?
[02:39] <rksii> yes, meskarune, that is correct
[02:39] <helo> dejahthoris: not sure... whatever the defaults were
[02:39] <magma> how do I kill a logged user through the command line?
[02:39] <FuZi0N> hello
[02:40] <cfhowlett> FuZi0N   greetings
[02:40] <FuZi0N> i was trying to setup a ftp server in ubuntu
[02:40] <FuZi0N> i installed serv u
[02:40] <FuZi0N> im able to login fine
[02:40] <FuZi0N> but i cant write to the directory
[02:40] <_Marcus> Hello FuZi0N
[02:40] <FuZi0N> i think i need to change the home directory permissions from terminal
[02:40] <_Marcus> magma: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/xkill.1fun.html
[02:40] <FuZi0N> anyone know how to do this?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> magma   http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-kill-unix-linux-user-session/
[02:41] <meskarune> rksii: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt#178
[02:41] <_Marcus> magma: go to cfhowlett's link, it will be much more simple
[02:41] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N "chmod <permissions> directoryname
[02:41] <magma> ok
[02:41] <magma> :)
[02:41] <magma> ty
[02:42] <FuZi0N> dejahthoris which parameters should i use for read/write/list/delete/make ?
[02:42] <rksii> I tried the stuff on that page meskarune -- no useful info (at least not useful to me) is being logged
[02:42] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N - what kind of access do you want to give to strangers?
[02:42] <FuZi0N> its not a stranger here
[02:43] <FuZi0N> *hehe
[02:43] <FuZi0N> just download/upload/list/append/make dir
[02:43] <meskarune> rksii: I see. you could try using a different suspend backend like tuxonice
[02:43] <FuZi0N> and delte
[02:43] <FuZi0N> *delete
[02:43] <mustafaerhann> 777 is ok then.
[02:43] <mustafaerhann> :D
[02:43] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N - then "chmod 777 directoryname"
[02:44] <rksii> haven't tried that -- I'm willing to use whatever will work. Other than this suspend issue, everything is working perfectly
[02:44] <meskarune> rksii: what is your laptop model?
[02:45] <rksii> Toshiba Satellite L775
[02:45] <cfhowlett> rksii  see software center toshutils
[02:45] <_Marcus> With all the people putting Ubuntu on the Toshiba Satellites, I'm suprised it doesn't work perfectly with them already.
[02:46] <rksii> I always used to use toshiba laptops with linux and this is the first real problem I have had
[02:46] <rksii> I guess it is a newer model
[02:46] <FuZi0N> so for example "chmod 777 /home/user/Downloads" ?
[02:46] <meskarune> rksil: if you use any proprietary graphics drivers, try unloading them and see if you can suspend
[02:47] <mustafaerhann> yes FuZi0N
[02:47] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N - yes, that will leave your ftp directory wide open
[02:48] <rksii> cfhowlett: there is nothing matching toshutils in the software center. I searched for just tosh and I already have toshset installed (guess it did that for me) and there are a few other things that don't seem like they have anything to do with suspend or power
[02:48] <FuZi0N> hmm
[02:48] <Canadian1296> Goodbye all
[02:48] <FuZi0N> still no luck :/
[02:48] <Jeremy3D> anyone know how i can get xchat into the toolbar on Ubuntu 11.10?  i tried clicking the checkbox in preferences but it does nothing
[02:48] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N - try "sudo chmod 777 ..."
[02:48] <FuZi0N> [1] MKD test
[02:48] <FuZi0N> [1] 550 /test: Permission denied.
[02:48] <rksii> meskarune: no proprietary drivers -- it is using intel video
[02:49] <bazhang> Jeremy3D, xchat-indicator installed?
[02:49] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N 0 sorry, assumed you were root. use sudo
[02:49] <Jeremy3D> bazhang, not sure. i'll check
[02:50] <FuZi0N> yes i am logged in as root
[02:50] <FuZi0N> i already did a sudo su
[02:50] <Jeremy3D> bazhang, i'm not seeing it. where should i look?
[02:51] <dejahthoris> FuZi0N - then I don't understand. chmod should work for any directory you've created
[02:51] <Jeremy3D> not getting any sounds either
[02:51] <meskarune> rksii: to your kernel line in grub you might have to add "pci=noacpi"
[02:51] <LoganShaw> Hello people, can anybody tell me what computer programming language ubuntu is made from?
[02:51] <dejahthoris> LoganShaw - mostly C, with lots of shell scripts
[02:52] <bazhang> !info xchat-indicator | Jeremy3D
[02:52] <rksii> don't forget python -- that's my personal favorite :-)
[02:52] <dejahthoris> lots of different languages
[02:53] <LoganShaw> Thanks but now I am even more confused.
[02:53] <dejahthoris> whats to be confused about?
[02:53] <rksii> it's not just written in one language, LoganShaw. It's not even just one program. It's lots of programs written in lots of languages
[02:54] <LoganShaw> I was told C is obsolete and C++ is the best.
[02:54] <cfhowlett> LoganShaw   see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy
[02:54] <bazhang> LoganShaw, thats not on topic here.
[02:54] <dejahthoris> C and C++ are usued interchangably in conversation
[02:54] <meskarune> LoganShaw: linux is primarily written in C
[02:54] <_Marcus> LoganShaw: C++ is okay at times. C is better at some areas though. This is Ubuntu support channel anyway. Type "!ot" for the off topic channel
[02:54] <LoganShaw> Oh okay, then that clears things up,thanks
[02:55] <meskarune> also C is not obsolete. :P
[02:55] <shellcode28> I had my resolution set to 1920x1080 on ubuntu 11.04
[02:56] <shellcode28> I down to 1270x768
[02:56] <fenem> folks...is there a minimalist version of ubuntu that just contains the basics...no applications other than required linux and perhaps X only?
[02:56] <bazhang> fenem the minimal iso
[02:56] <_Marcus> fenem: There is a minimal version that doesn't contain X.
[02:56] <snowrichard> xubuntu
[02:56] <bazhang> !mini | fenem
[02:56] <_Marcus> fenem: You can always install it though
[02:57] <_Marcus> The Minimal CD is evil.
[02:57] <_Marcus> You have to configure CLI to work in the GRUB settings
[02:57] <_Marcus> Or it will try to load a GUI.
[02:57] <bazhang> fenem, if you need a gui, then lubuntu (lxde + openbox)
[02:57] <_Marcus> And there is none.
[02:58] <bazhang> !lubuntu > fenem
[02:58] <JermBob> racingggggggggggggg
[02:59] <tenX> JermBob: what racing flavour?
[02:59] <meskarune> you can run GUI applications in x without a window manager or desktop enviroment
[02:59] <dejahthoris> there was one linux that fit on a floppy disk
 The Minimal CD is evil. ??? be carefull with your drunk talk, friend.
[03:00] <_Marcus> It is evil
[03:00] <meskarune> damn small linux and puppy linux are pretty tiny
[03:00] <JermBob> EVIL
[03:00] <_Marcus> I spent from Sunday to Tuesday trying to configure it to work
[03:01] <_Marcus> Sometimes it hanged at install
[03:01] <_Marcus> Sometimes it just sat there and didn't load tty
[03:01] <tenX> _Marcus: drunk support is my specialty
[03:01] <meskarune> its not evil just because you have to configure things. :P
[03:01] <_Marcus> meskarune: It's evil. That's that.
[03:01] <_Marcus> I gtg. Goodbye everyone!
[03:02] <bazhang> JermBob, actual support question?
[03:03] <zachary> Can someone point me towards a Jolicloud IRC help channel?
[03:03] <OerHeks> !jolicloud
[03:03] <Guest94214> !jolicloud
[03:04] <cfhowlett> #jolicloud
[03:04] <mustafaerhann> Fuzi0N try to log in with normal user and then sudo chmod 777 /directorytoftp
[03:04] <FuZi0N> i managed to get it working :)
[03:04] <Dwade09> How do i mess with the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.10 like the delay on it or moving it around the screen so on?
[03:04] <Guest94214> Can anyone help me install Mono on Jolicloud?
[03:05] <FuZi0N> i just reconfigured the ftp home directory not sure what went wrong the first time
[03:05] <OerHeks> unfortunatly not on freenode, Guest94214
[03:05] <FuZi0N> but the chmod also helped :D
[03:05] <FuZi0N> thank you very much :)
[03:05] <bazhang> !alis | Guest94214
[03:05] <mustafaerhann> very wellcome FuZi0N
[03:05] <Guest94214> !alis
[03:05] <BrandonBolton> Guest94214, It should be actually the same as Ubuntu seeing how it is based off of Ubuntu.
[03:06] <mustafaerhann> by ppls. have to sleep
[03:06] <Guest94214> I just am needing to try and run an old .exe game from Windows
[03:06] <Guest94214> Its a 2D MMORPG made with VB but I keep getting an unexpected error
[03:06] <bazhang> !appdb | Guest94214
[03:06] <Guest94214> I have wine, that is how I installed it
[03:06] <bazhang> Guest94214, install wine, check appdb /join #winehq
[03:06] <Guest94214> Its not on the list
[03:07] <cfhowlett> Guest94214   either it hans't been done or hasn't been documented
[03:07] <bazhang> Guest94214, then it may not run. #winehq is the place to take those types of questions
[03:07] <Guest94214> Thanks
[03:07] <dejahthoris> Guest94214 - what's the game?
[03:07] <Dwade09> Guest94214: have you tried it in a vmbox running windows since it is 2d
[03:07] <Guest94214> It's called Odyssey Classic
[03:07] <Guest94214> Old game from 1991 that I play
[03:07] <Guest94214> Do I have to have a windows xp copy for that?
[03:08] <meskarune> did they have MMO's from 1991?
[03:08] <tensorpudding> Guest94214, check the wine appdb to see
[03:08] <dejahthoris> Guest94214 - you could boot a 1991 version of dos froma single floppy
[03:08] <Guest94214> Sorry it's from like 1997-9
[03:08] <hatop> i'm more amazed that it was VB in 91
[03:08] <Guest94214> Not 1991, not sure why I said that
[03:08] <hatop> oh
[03:09] <hatop> 97
[03:09] <Guest94214> Been playing it for years though
[03:09] <bazhang> !ot | Guest94214
[03:09] <Guest94214> The game opens fine, I select the server, then it pots up with that unexpected error
[03:09] <Dwade09> Guest94214:  what is the name of the game?
[03:09] <tensorpudding> then it might not work right
[03:09] <Guest94214> Odyssey Classic
[03:09] <tensorpudding> make sure you run it with windows 95 compatibility or whatever
[03:10] <tensorpudding> there's a way to configure that for a particular app using the wine configurator
[03:10] <Guest94214> I'm attempting to find it
[03:10] <tensorpudding> but i mean, it's not guaranteed to work right
[03:10] <tensorpudding> starcraft doesn't work properly either
[03:10] <tensorpudding> speaking of a popular game from that time period
[03:11] <Guest94214> I've got it to work on a previous linux distro
[03:11] <hatop> lots of things don't that require old versions of directx and directdraw
[03:11] <Dwade09> Guest94214:  here http://www.odysseyclassic.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=7&id=6958&Itemid=56
[03:11] <Bobenhaus> away
[03:11] <hatop> especially since wine changes pretty constantly and they sometimes ruin support for programs in the process
[03:11] <tensorpudding> there is the possibility of virtualization but if the game requires fancy graphics it might run terribly
[03:11] <Guest94214> Wow didn't think to check their forums, lol...
[03:12] <Guest94214> Ohhhh no its far from fancy
[03:12] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support
[03:12] <Guest94214> Almost like an old Zelda type
[03:12] <Guest94214> Thanks for your help
[03:12] <tenX> zelda :>
[03:13] <LoganShaw> I want to install ubuntu on my phone but the screen is 540x960, ubuntu minimum requirement claims 1024x768, should I even bother trying?
[03:13] <goathouse774> I'm probably just going to skip checking the disc because it's simply too complicated, or the linked instructions are ambiguous.
[03:13] <hatop> loganshaw: probably not. also i'm assuming your phone runs android so you'd probably also encounter a lot of driver issues
[03:14] <hatop> loganshaw: and the display would be very odd if you stuck with unity
[03:14] <LoganShaw> but the phone came with a dumbed down version of ubuntu
[03:14] <cfhowlett> LoganShaw   dumbed down for a reason...
[03:14] <sx_usr__> hi guys, im currently using kernel 3.2.6 for my Ubuntu 11.10, but it seems that the SUSPEND doesn't work for my notebook hp elitebook 8540w? anyone has this similar problem?
[03:14] <hatop> indeed
[03:14] <ohdae> Hey does anyone happen to know a good desktop recording app for Ubuntu?
[03:15] <bazhang> ohdae, kazam or eidet
[03:15] <cfhowlett> ohdae   gtkredordmydesktop
[03:15] <tenX> hatop: what is the main justification for unity in 20 words if i may ask?
[03:15] <cfhowlett> ohdae   gtkrecordmydesktop
[03:15] <Dwade09> How do i mess with the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.10 like the delay on it or moving it around the screen so on?
[03:15] <ohdae> I'm looking for something that can preferably be able to edit the video afterwards, like zoom in on certain areas, add a sound track, etc
[03:15] <bazhang> tenX, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:15] <hatop> tenx: i don't even have 1 word
[03:15] <ohdae> thanks guys, that was quick :D heh
[03:15] <sx_usr__> ohdae:i think u can configure that from compiz
[03:15] <LoganShaw> unity:think differently
[03:15] <ohdae> sx_usr__, ahh gotcha
[03:15] <cfhowlett> ohdae   record the video then edit.  openshot is nice
[03:15] <tenX> bazhang: only for interest
[03:16] <bazhang> tenX, right, and thats the chit chat channel, NOT here
[03:16] <ohdae> cfhowlett, yeah i was thinking i'd have to record then edit separately
[03:16] <tenX> hatop: i could imagine. difficult to describe a wm in short
[03:16] <fizyplankton> if the SATA cable fell (melted) off of a harddrive while it was running, could that cause the "read error rate" to be 14,605, the "Seek error rate" to be 59,303,348, and the "hardware ECC recovered" to be 14,605, yet the overall status say "disk is healthy"
[03:16] <hatop> tenx: i'm more than happy to take this to pm or go to that chan
[03:16] <cfhowlett> ohdae   right, then strong them into one with openshot
[03:16] <ohdae> I'm trying to make a demo video for a project im working on. Showing screenshots of a console-based app only does so much :p
[03:16] <tenX> bazhang: that was only meant to aim for a quick info
[03:17] <hatop> fizyplankton: your drive is most likely dead/dieing. How it managed to melt is amazing, but I'd just try to salvage data and get a new drive.
[03:17] <OerHeks> fizyplankton, did it melt ?
[03:17] <ohdae> hmm ill reboot into Ubuntu and start looking :D
[03:17] <ohdae> thanks guys
[03:18] <cfhowlett> fizyplankton   melted?  Yes, I'd suspect some hardware issues?
[03:18] <tenX> bazhang: all set for myself, this was simply for interest. been wondering why unity became the primary wm on ubuntu
[03:18] <hatop> yeah anything melting is bad
[03:18] <Dwade09> how do i mess with the settings for the bar on the left side of this picture? http://imagebin.org/199152
[03:18] <OerHeks> he didn't say it melted, ..if...
[03:18] <hatop> dwade09: you don't really
[03:18] <FuZi0N> whats the best remote desktop/vnc server to use in ubuntu?
[03:19] <urfr332g0> fizyplankton, there is a ##hardware channel they might be of some help in this.
[03:19] <hatop> he said fell(melted)
[03:19] <hatop> so I'm assuming it means it melted apart and then fell down
[03:19] <hatop> either way sounds like the drive connectors are bad and causing the issue and yes ##hardware would probably be more helpful
[03:19] <tenX> happyface: qry
[03:19] <Dwade09> hatop:  not one way at all?
[03:20] <fizyplankton> hatop: OerHeks the drive seems to be fine. the meltdown occured several months ago. my airconditioner broke, and my room is the hottest room in the house, and it was in the middle of the summer (i live in georgia. HOT). just that much was enough to melt it off. i still have the carnage on my desk. oddly enough, even 59 millioin errors wont cause the report to say an error, yet my other disk has 2 bad sectors and it return
[03:20] <Dwade09> hatop:  i like the bar but i want it on the bottom and a bit smaller.
[03:20] <hatop> dwade09: not that I know of really in 11.10. the new alpha stuff yes
[03:21] <hatop> fizyplankton: man, I'm in North Alabama and I've never actually seen the inside of a case hit the melting point of plastic
[03:22] <fizyplankton> hatop: if i really wanted too, i could send you a picture of the oval SATA connector
[03:22] <hatop> oh its fine, i'm just amazed is all
[03:22] <cfhowlett> fizyplankton   ah don't be greedy.  Paste it so we can ALL see...
[03:22] <hatop> I'd still replace the drive or go buy a dead one and transfer the board up
[03:23] <fizyplankton> hatop: all i use it for is as an archives drive, for huge files / backups / isos and other such things. my main drive is fine (except for the 2 bad sectors)
[03:24] <hatop> ah
[03:24] <K`zan> Hi folks, I'm trying to turn off mousekeys and I had tried a number of google found solutions, none of which work, help appreciated!
[03:24] <hatop> You could replace some of the connectors pretty cheaply with a dead drive
[03:24] <researcher123> how do I kow how much RAM my PC has? what command line or system program to use?
[03:24] <K`zan> I found two places where it exists and disabled both but it is still there and still active :-(.\
[03:24] <bazhang> fizyplankton, ##hardware please
[03:25] <Wabs> Researcher123, top works for showing memory
[03:25] <urfr332g0> researcher123, free in the teminal will tell you
[03:26] <ex0> vmstat also is goo
[03:27] <fizyplankton> hatop: i replaced the sata cable 6 months ago. im just wondering why i have millions of errors. a part of me thinks that when it melted off, it could have shorted out its statistics. for instance, it says its powered up time is 3 yrs. thats not impossible, as it is a relatively old drive, but i wouldnt be surprised if thats inaccurate
[03:27] <researcher123> my system which was once very fast suddenly became slow. What can be done NOW?
[03:27] <bazhang> fizyplankton, lets take this to the appropriate channel
[03:27] <OerHeks> fizyplankton, maybe your motherboard is damaged too.
[03:27] <hatop> Its more likely that its shorting out on the board
[03:28] <boyhimas> Hi. I got ubuntu 9.10 here. Do I get all the features of oneric (except the unity interface) if I just run automatic update?
[03:28] <hatop> and thats causing a ton of read/write errors
[03:28] <Wabs> Researcher123, use terminal and run top to see whats killing your processor
[03:28] <OerHeks> boyhimas, you need a lot of updates, i guess you better reinstall a fresh 11.10. ,much faster.
[03:29] <ex0> researcher123, use the command:  ps -aux       to see whats going on also
[03:29] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | boyhimas
[03:29] <researcher123> Wabs: gvfsd-trash is using highest  memory.What an I do now?
[03:30] <ex0> do you have an ipod or iphone plugged in?
[03:30] <fizyplankton> bazhang: were almost done. hatop my other 2 drives arent reporting that level of data. the hdd end melted off, not the mb end. also, the way i had them arranged in the case before, this drive was the most likely to overheat, but that was the only possible config. now, i bought a bracket to mount it in a cd slot for better air flow across all 3 drives.
[03:30] <boyhimas> Oerheks, I was thinking of that but I'm not a big fan of Unity. Are there other options?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> boyhimas   lubuntu xubuntu kubuntu
[03:31] <bazhang> fizyplankton, PM or ##hardware. this is not the channel for it
[03:31] <researcher123> when I ran Top command in terminal I found one application using lot of memory.How do I stop that application?
[03:31] <ex0> researcher123, gvfsd is usually signs of ipod or iphone
[03:31] <K`zan> Anyone know how to get rid of mousekeys?  Turning it off in the control panel and commenting it out in the two places I have found it (/usr/share/X11/xkb/... ...) has not worked.
[03:31] <hatop> fizyplankton: yeah, thats what I figured. hence why i'm betting its the melted interface.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> researcher123   kill -9 processnumber
[03:31] <Wabs> kill
[03:31] <ex0> researcher123, kill -9 (pid)
[03:32] <researcher123> ok.done.Thanks
[03:33] <ex0> np
[03:33] <Jordan_U> researcher123: cfhowlett: ex0: Only use "kill -9 pid" if "kill pid" fails to kill the process.
[03:34] <boyhimas> thanks guys!
[03:34] <cfhowlett> jordan_ ok.  will see the man page...
[03:36] <Esquire>  
[03:36] <OerHeks> K`zan, check keyboard settings, to disable mouse-emulation numpad
[03:37] <newhoa> boyhimas, Just from personal experience...  a lot of the time upgrades (especially that far between releases) don't always go so well, and at the least could give you a lot of problems with config files. I always like to do fresh installs over upgrades because for me it's much safer, more reliable, and like OerHeks said, much faster.
[03:38] <goathouse774> I'm trying to burn the xubuntu image to a dual layer dvd and it asks me if I want to split it equally over multiple layers.  Should I say yes?
[03:38] <cfhowlett> boyhimas   you might also consider skipping the 6 month update cycle and just boot LTS versions.
[03:38] <newhoa> Oops, my screen froze, so I was answering something pretty late!
[03:39] <boyhimas> newhoa, thanks man!
[03:40] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, you down load the cd or dvd, check the size.
[03:40] <goathouse774> It's small enough to fit on cd
[03:41] <goathouse774> Is there a dvd version?
[03:41] <newhoa> boyhimas, No problem! Have you tried Gnome-Shell yet? I'm not caring for Unity much myself, but I think gnome-shell is a bit better.
[03:41] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, I would keep it on one side if it was me burn as an image.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   the dvd version contains ALL language support plus some other stuff
[03:41] <goathouse774> I don't need that
[03:42] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   exactly...
[03:42] <goathouse774> I have the image and my cd drive burned out so I'm trying to burn to what I have...  A dual layer dvd.
[03:42] <boyhimas> cfhowlett, i'm not sure but is 10.10 the latest LTS release?
[03:42] <cfhowlett> boyhimas   10.04 is the latest.  12.04 is the next
[03:43] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, dvd=  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[03:43] <boyhimas> newhoa, yeah I've tried gnome shell in fedora 15. Didn't like it very much
[03:43] <goathouse774> That looks like ubuntu.  I'm working with xubuntu.
[03:43] <boyhimas> cfhowlett, maybe I'll just wait for 12.04
[03:44] <cfhowlett> fyi: 10.04 SHOULD directly update to 12.04 ...
[03:46] <shellcode28> when i try to add resolution it gives me a error
[03:46] <goathouse774> Specifically, the message is: "this image (when split in two) has an L0 (1st layer) that is smaller than the media specified 'read compatibility LBA'.
[03:46] <shellcode28> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[03:47] <goathouse774> "do you want to split it equally over multiple layers anyway?"
[03:48] <goathouse774> Yes, no, or cancel?
[03:50] <jiero> hi, where I can find if a package is supported ?
[03:51] <Mike9863> 'm currently using an emerald theme and I installed AMD proprietary graphics drivers. Now when I hover over window buttons (minimize, maximize, and close) they don't highlight. This is a problem because with my theme the buttons do not show unless I over over them. Is this a cause of the new drivers, and if so is there any way to fix this?
[03:52] <Jordan_U> Mike9863: Unfortunately emerald hasn't been maintained or supported by anyone for years.
[03:53] <newhoa> boyhimas, if you don't like Xubuntu or Lubuntu, you could try Linux Mint 12. As part of the default install, it includes MATE desktop, just a fork of Gnome 2. So it may be the best of both worlds... updated distro based on Ubuntu, but "classic" Gnome 2 style desktop.
[03:54] <Jordan_U> jiero: If it's in main, it's supported by canonical and the community. If it's in universe then it's only supported by the community.
[03:55] <jiero> Jordan_U: how do I know it is main or universe...
[03:56] <jiero> Jordan_U: I want to report bug of gnumeric
[03:56] <OerHeks> !info gnumeric
[03:56] <Jordan_U> jiero: apt-cache show packagename
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !bug | jiero
[03:58] <K`zan> OerHeks: Did that and disabled it in /usr/share/X11/xkb/ ... in the two places I found it and it is *still& there, been working on this for two days now...
[03:58] <jiero> ty
[03:59] <newhoa> Artwork question - If I'm playing with a theme using the Unico engine, but with a few tweak could just use the Adwaita engine... are there any advantages to using one over the other? Speed, future support, etc?
[03:59] <newhoa> Gtk3 theme that is
[04:00] <Thurin1> How does Gnome 3 run on older video cards like (the famous) Nvidia FX5200
[04:00] <Thurin1> ?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Thurin1   new cards are better
[04:00] <Thurin1> cfhowlett: Indeed, but has anyone experienced it with an older card?
[04:01] <Thurin1> I'm thinking if it's worth the download time to my other machine.
[04:01] <Jordan_U> jiero: You're welcome.
[04:01] <Thurin1> In Arch, it comes to a screeching halt... Gnome 3 that is. I don't know if it's the card, or the Arch version of the package.
[04:01] <_Brun0_> How do I configure the terminal line format? I mean my terminal shows username@hostname:~$.. id like to shorten it.
[04:02] <cfhowlett> _Brun0_   see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[04:02] <dr_willis> _Brun0_:  see bash prompt howto
[04:02] <_Brun0_> cfhowlett, dr_willis ty both of u
[04:03] <newhoa> Thurin1, for a bit I was using a Geforce 7200, and if I remember it was running okay. I'm using the 8400GS now which is itself fairly old, and Gnome3 runs great.
[04:03] <slicer77> hi all....question...has anybody used netextender in 11.10?
[04:03] <dr_willis> export PS1="-->"
[04:03] <dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <camilo> :)
[04:04] <Thurin1> Ok, well I'm going to give a try. See what happens, might as well I have nothing better to do right now. See-ya, thanks,.
[04:06] <goathouse774> Can anyone give me a firm answer on burning over multiple layers on a dual dvd?  (xubuntu)
[04:08] <newhoa> Does anyone here use the Victory Gtk theme, and/or would anyone here want to try a Gtk3 version out to see if it works?
[04:09] <goathouse774> I know it's sort of off topic, but only have a scarce few dvds so I don't want to make a coaster right now
[04:10] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   your question isn't OT
[04:10] <slicer77> well...ok...when I try to install netextender, i get missing libssl.so.6....anybody have that problem?
[04:10] <Wabs> I have a disco wind chime of my old distro disc from over the years goathouse774
[04:11] <absolutionx> Just curious but are there any US based ubuntu stores that sell merch? I'd rather not pay $40 for a t-shirt and lanyard
[04:12] <goathouse774> Haha
[04:16] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   dual or multi layer dvd - as I understand it the primary difference is image longevity.  Not sure it matters overly much for a bootable image...
[04:17] <ndkelly> Hello
[04:17] <cfhowlett> ndkelly   greetings
[04:18] <SimonTam> I have a problem
[04:18] <cfhowlett> !ask|simontam
[04:18] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   ask away
[04:18] <SimonTam> Everyone I log in, it takes me back to the login screen
[04:19] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   so you can't actually login?  what version of ubuntu and what kind of installation, i.e. dual boot, wubi or what?
[04:19] <SimonTam> This has happened with lxdm, gdm, lightdm and kdm
[04:19] <SimonTam> Just ubuntu
[04:19] <goathouse774> Image longevity?  So either yes or no will result in a bootable disc?
[04:19] <SimonTam> 11.10
[04:19] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   as I understand it...
[04:20] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   you should be able to boot into recovery mode...
[04:20] <goathouse774> Thanks
[04:20] <sx_usr__> anyone here using HP EliteBook 8540w notebook running Ubuntu 11.10 kernel 3.2.6?
[04:21] <SimonTam> Same results. It loads the desktop, and then the smallest mouse movement kicks me back to login
[04:21] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   by chance did you install a clean version of ubuntu 11.10 or did you upgrade from previous version?
[04:22] <SimonTam> Upgrade. I've been going since 10.04
[04:22] <goathouse774> Why are the instructions for checking the boot disc so complex?  If I simply opt to run the check upon restart will it be automated?
[04:23] <SimonTam> This has only just come up tonight though, and it's been months since upgrading
[04:24] <ndkelly> Does anybody have a Two Finger Scroll fix for Synaptics Trackpads for 10.04 per chance?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   I've seen more than one post that upgrading to 11.10 causes more problems than a clean install - which is usually the case.  No obvious solution other than re-install.  IMHO, you're better served staying with LTS, but that's must me...
[04:24] <mattalexx> What is the purpose of the group "users"?
[04:24] <rabbi1> My gnome (11.04) panel always has a problem, on every restart it deletes one or the other applet, will reconfiguring gnome will solve this problem ?
[04:25] <cfhowlett> mattalexx   on your buntu? User's have lower lever powers than administrators.
[04:25] <SimonTam> Is there a way to reinstall from command line?
[04:25] <mattalexx> I see
[04:25] <Kismac> group users you can define different levels of access….
[04:25] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   boot ubuntu at and choose the text installer.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   boot ubuntu CDROM at and choose the text installer.
[04:26] <SimonTam> I have no cdrom
[04:26] <StepNjump> You want to go back to a previous version SimonTam?
[04:26] <StepNjump> oh ok sorry. nevermind SimonTam
[04:26] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   download iso, burn or cdrom or create a USB startup stick
[04:27] <linocisco> hi all, is there anybody who is using ICT stock inventory or asset management like camera, toners, DVD, mobile phones ? what software to use??
[04:27] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   although since it just came up....
[04:28] <SimonTam> That's simple with brasero.... But no gui
[04:28] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   hold.  for some reason your responses are being delayed.
[04:28] <linocisco> I dont want to record software installed, serial no. of network cards or something like that
[04:28] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   wait one...
[04:28] <SimonTam> Ah
[04:30] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   see this  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[04:30] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I've installed xmonad. When I choose it from the GDM menu, it just shows the GDM background and does nothing. What can I check? Has anyone else got this to work? Ubuntu 10.04 64bit.
[04:30] <fabianvampiro> hi
[04:31] <fabianvampiro> Which Open Office  is very similar to MS 2700?
[04:31] <somsip> agentgasmask: do you know how to do anything with xmonad? I use a tiling WM and that's what they look like until you open a window - just a background. Try ALT-Enter
[04:31] <linocisco> hi
[04:31] <Kismac> :)
[04:32] <Kismac> who is real in here and not a bot lol
[04:32] <ohdae> <--bot
[04:32] <ohdae> ;-)
[04:33] <Kismac> :P
[04:33] <SimonTam> That's just a guide to bash commands
[04:33] <Kismac> Simontam what where you trying to do?
[04:33] <fabianvampiro> anyone knows, Which Open Office  is very similar to Microsof office 2007 ?
[04:34] <nathan28> fabianvampiro: ?
[04:34] <nathan28> fabianvampiro: you probably want libreoffice
[04:34] <ndkelly> Open office works
[04:34] <Kismac> ^^
[04:34] <ndkelly> Although i've heard libreoffice is superior.
[04:34] <fabianvampiro> I have problems with margins
[04:34] <SimonTam> I'm hoping to clean install ubuntu from shell, because my gui is snafu
[04:34] <ndkelly> No first hand experience with it as of yet. Fairly new to Linux myself.
[04:35] <ponrajuganesh> hi Greetins!!!
[04:35] <Kismac> redo the gui
[04:35] <ponrajuganesh> where to find the bash rc file? where will it be located
[04:35] <agentgasmask> somsip: Oh, I'll try it again. But I think it is the GDM background. I'll check.
[04:35] <nathan28> fabianvampiro: margins in libreoffice are done as a 'page' setting, per page
[04:35] <agentgasmask> ponrajuganesh: /home/USER/.bashrc
[04:35] <capcook> i think open office is far better than libre office
[04:35] <agentgasmask> ponrajuganesh: do ls -a .bashrc to see it.
[04:36] <capcook> they arent the same thing
[04:36] <SimonTam> Um... How?
[04:36] <ponrajuganesh> thanks agentgasmask :)
[04:36] <capcook> i think that libre office is unusable at all
[04:36] <johnson17> Hi everyone, I'm on 11.10, installed only a few packages for web dev (lamp-server, etc.). Problem is that recently, nautilus can't browse network or trash anymore. I've googled and found this bug has been reported, but can't find any clear resolution steps. Any clues as to what I should do?
[04:36] <somsip> agentgasmask: not sure about xmonad, but check to see what the 'open terminal'  keystroke is and try that. It's WIN-enter in my case, not ALT-enter
[04:37] <ndkelly> johnson17 I'd say if you're using it for a server, to choose a stable, certified release.
[04:37] <tenX> capcook: unusable?
[04:37] <fabianvampiro> I use open office but when I print to a cybercafe margins move
[04:37] <capcook> yes in my ubuntu 11.10 freeze many times
[04:37] <goathouse774> Well, I booted from the disc into xubuntu and it works.  I touch sluggish, but not bad.  Internet works and basic functions.  What should I do now?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> SimonTam   did you get straightened out?
[04:38] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   install!
[04:38] <Kismac> johnson17: we use natty on some 123 servers….
[04:39] <Kismac> tho we run nginx on them only :)
[04:39] <chipmonk> how do i add a second harddrive to ubuntu
[04:39] <cfhowlett> fabianvampiro   personally I'd go with the Libre Office packages.  transfer between MS office is still not exact, but you save/export in office formats.  All else fails, export as PDF to lock in your formatting.
[04:39] <johnson17> ndkelly: this is just a dev machine, so there isn't anything critical if it all melts down - I'm just surprised that nautilus suddenly stopped working
[04:39] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   have you installed xubuntu or did you live boot?
[04:39] <agentgasmask> somsip: Hmm... no joy. No problem though, I'm messing with wmii now... :)
[04:40] <goathouse774> Live boot
[04:40] <chipmonk> it is mounted but programs willnot use it for data storage says won't write
[04:40] <somsip> agentgasmask: ok - give AwesomeWM a go if you feel like trying another :)
[04:40] <fabianvampiro> thx all people je je
[04:40] <ndkelly> johnson17 ah, well did you run sudo apt-get update after installation?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   live boot is always slower - everything you see is loaded in ram
[04:40] <goathouse774> Will installing wipe the computer?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   yes but...
[04:41] <tenX> goathouse774: not really
[04:41] <ndkelly> goathouse774 no, you can choose which partitions you want to format or install to.
[04:41] <tenX> goathouse774: toe make sure you should "null" the device
[04:41] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   depends how you set it up.  For instance if you have a separate /home you can choose to skip formatting that partition.
[04:42] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   is this a dual boot machine or buntu only?
[04:42] <goathouse774> "null"?  /home?
[04:42] <johnson17> ndkelly : yep, today I got a couple of other updates showing up though - I'm updating right now, since they look like they're major.
[04:42] <goathouse774> I don't know, it has windows on it currently.
[04:42] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   and I imagine you plan to keep windows?
[04:43] <goathouse774> Should I?  Would it impede anything on the linux side?
[04:43] <ndkelly> johnson17 let us know how that goes and i'll offer what advice i can
[04:43] <ndkelly> Does anybody have a Two Finger Scroll fix for Synaptics Trackpads for 10.04 per chance?
[04:44] <snowrichard> i got a kernel update today
[04:44] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   it wouldn't hurt your buntu.  Perhaps you may have a need for windows though - it's actually not that hard to "dual-boot" both.
[04:44] <tenX> goathouse774: whatever you put on it it depends on your intention, how efficiently you like to erase
[04:44] <johnson17> ndkelly: Thanks, I'll take another look at launchpad to see the bug reports.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   please see this before your do anything https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:45] <Sebastien> welcome back bot.
[04:45] <cfhowlett> status
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !status
[04:46] <goathouse774> If the buntu stuff is siloed then why wouldn't I keep windows around?  Is dual booting for quickly switching back and forth?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   dual booting means completely rebooting - not hot/fast switching.  Why keep windows?  Up to you.
[04:48] <goathouse774> When booted to buntu windows has no effect right?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   nor vice versa
[04:48] <Toph2> I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and my computer often slows to a crawl, especially when I have chrome and Thunderbird running. Htop indicates that Compiz is using almost 20% of my CPU capacity. Is this normal?
[04:48] <goathouse774> As I see it, the only thing you lose by keeping windows is hard drive space.
[04:49] <goathouse774> On a basic level, is that so?
[04:49] <nathan28> goathouse774: when you keep windows you can't control the partitioning scheme on the disk as well
[04:49] <nathan28> it makes it harder to keep something like /home intact if you reinstall
[04:49] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   that's one arguement.  I do buntu 90% of the time 9% windows and 1% OSX.
[04:50] <nathan28> likewise you have to deal w/ bootloader issues
[04:50] <nathan28> which are easy enough but still another consideration
[04:50] <goathouse774> Bootloader issues?
[04:50] <nathan28> making sure GRUB and windows play nice
[04:50] <goathouse774> I thought they are siloed
[04:51] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   no bootloader issues if you install virtualbox into windows and then install buntu into that.
[04:51] <ndkelly> I've kept GRUB on sda3 (my ubuntu partition)
[04:51] <ndkelly> As i have to boot through Chameleon first, then GRUB
[04:51] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   when running they are siloed.  On boot, the machine resources POST and the like...
[04:51] <nathan28> ndkelly: that's what i mean
[04:51] <cfhowlett> ndkelly   but you're multi-booting as well
[04:52] <goathouse774> Post?
[04:52] <nathan28> goathouse774: the reason to keep windows is 1. to play games 2. you need a windows-only app for work/school
[04:52] <goathouse774> But they mess with each other on boot?
[04:52] <ndkelly> nathan28 i assume you mean for document formats? Or is the method of your work also dependant on Windows software
[04:52] <nathan28> goathouse774: not likley to
[04:53] <nathan28> ndkelly: yes for document formats
[04:53] <nathan28> most of the world can't get off the MS office
[04:53] <goathouse774> But they...  dictate partitioning rules?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> goathouse774  the most recently installed OS writes the MasterBootRecord.  Scrambled MBR = No boot.
[04:53] <nathan28> goathouse774: no
[04:53] <ndkelly> You can always cross format. Most open source office programs allow you to save a file so it can be opened universally
[04:53] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   YOU set the partitions
[04:54] <nathan28> goathouse774: windows can't read ext partitions
[04:54] <goathouse774> How would the mbr get scrambled?
[04:54] <ndkelly> Windows is stubborn and only likes NTFS. Or FAT32 depending on which release you're running.
[04:54] <nathan28> goathouse774: the last OS installed is going to want to overwrite the MBR
[04:55] <nathan28> IIRC in ubuntu you have to disable the overwrite from the installer
[04:55] <ndkelly> There's a fairly decent guide that allows you to get Windows and GRUB to play nice
[04:55] <goathouse774> So you can't switch back and forth?
[04:55] <nathan28> ndkelly: true
[04:55] <nathan28> goathouse774: yes
[04:55] <nathan28> you reboot
[04:55] <cfhowlett> goathouse774   gotta go quite soon but my suggestion to you is this: install virtual box on windows, install xubuntu into virtualbox.  Learn more.  THEN install a dual boot when you've a better idea of what you're doing.  *Dear Old Dad: "It's free advice son, and worth every penny!"
[04:55] <nathan28> you just need to configure your bootloader (GRUB) right
[04:55] <ndkelly> Or, might i suggest looking into Virtual Machines?
[04:56] <ndkelly> cfhowlett beat me to it.
[04:56] <nathan28> goathouse774: the best way to learn is to do it
[04:56] <nathan28> goathouse774: use clonezilla to create a backup of your disk
[04:56] <nathan28> then find a guide to dual-booting
[04:56] <nathan28> then install whatver linux distro you want
[04:56] <nathan28> you will understand more
[04:56] <nathan28> or
[04:57] <nathan28> just put it in a VM w/ virtual box
[04:57] <ndkelly> I've started with Ubuntu, and already learned quite a few things in the past 2 days.
[04:57] <nathan28> goathouse774: if you use a VM you may have to turn on virtualization support in your BIOS
[04:57] <goathouse774> Is it slower in a virtual box?
[04:57] <nathan28> goathouse774: probably but on a modern system it's much better than it used to be
[04:57] <ndkelly> One of which being, I can EITHER have a slow-ish release and a perfect trackpad. Or a less than satisfactory trackpad and a solid release for my netbook.
[04:58] <nathan28> goathouse774: how much RAM do you have?
[04:58] <goathouse774> 513
[04:58] <goathouse774> 512
[04:58] <nathan28> MB?
[04:58] <nathan28> and you run windows?
[04:58] <nathan28> are you sure?
[04:58] <goathouse774> Yeah
[04:58] <goathouse774> Yeah, easily
[04:58] <nathan28> on 512 MB of ram?
[04:58] <memyself> in windows we can search *.exe but in ubuntu how to do what ?
[04:58] <memyself> that
[04:58] <johnson17> goathouse774: which version of windows?
[04:59] <goathouse774> Xp
[04:59] <nathan28> memyself: find /whatever_directory -iname whatever_your_looking_for
[04:59] <nathan28> memyself: or if you have m/slocate, just "locate foo"
[04:59] <goathouse774> 512 was a lot of ram not too long ago
[04:59] <ndkelly> I guess you're running XP
[04:59] <ndkelly> ?
[05:00] <goathouse774> Xp
[05:00] <memyself> nathan i want to find file extension
[05:00] <nathan28> memyself: linux doesn't do extensions
[05:00] <ndkelly> Nothing wrong with that. It's a solid release. Anyway, XP of all things should play nicely with Ubuntu, as it's one of the oldest Dual Boot OS's out there
[05:00] <nathan28> memyself: are you looking for executables?
[05:01] <nathan28> memyself: or are you looking for files that end in 'foo'
[05:01] <goathouse774> Would it be that dangerous for me to go ahead and install without researching dual boot?
[05:02] <Zillow> I don't like the new UI
[05:02] <nathan28> goathouse774: he who doesn't read the manual now reads it later, with great sadness
[05:02] <ndkelly> goathouse774 yes
[05:02] <nathan28> if you have nothing 'mission critical' on the box
[05:02] <nathan28> by all means, do as you will
[05:02] <memyself> no i'm lookin for a specific file that i can only remember its extension
[05:02] <ndkelly> Measure twice, cut once. as my dad says.
[05:02] <goathouse774> Haha
[05:02] <nathan28> memyself: in ubuntu?
[05:03] <nathan28> "locate *foo_extension"
[05:04] <nathan28> otherwise, fine / -iname *exension  or more likely find /home/user -iname *extension
[05:04] <h00k> !dualboot | goathouse774 it's not too bad, just make sure you have backups just in case
[05:04] <magn3ts> How do I fix my gnome-terminal tab titles?
[05:04] <nathan28> s/fine/find
[05:04] <magn3ts> they're always blank no matter what I do.
[05:04] <ndkelly> goathouse774 before i dual booted my netbook i did extensive research in forums and on peoples blogs to ensure i didnt screw up my machine
[05:04] <ndkelly> And it paid off.
[05:04] <nathan28> ndkelly: it's not that dangerous
[05:04] <ndkelly> Not only will you get it working, but you'll have the knowledge of how to fix it
[05:05] <nathan28> you just should maybe read one guide once or twice
[05:05] <ndkelly> nathan28 It is if you're missing key install media like i am.
[05:05] <nathan28> ndkelly: you have linux install media
[05:05] <ndkelly> nathan28 I dual boot with OS X on my netbook.
[05:06] <victicom> :-/
[05:06] <ndkelly> Which is a pain for me to acquire another bootable USB as i don't own a mac.
[05:06] <lolcat^> ndkelly: LOL
[05:06] <memyself> hooooooooooo hoooooooooo i can't find the file i'm lookin for
[05:06] <nathan28> ndkelly: oh
[05:06] <rabbi1> My gnome (11.04) panel always has a problem, on every restart it deletes one or the other applet, will reconfiguring gnome will solve this problem ?
[05:06] <lolcat^> What does bootable USB got to do with MACs?
[05:06] <memyself> brb
[05:06] <lolcat^> Every OS can make them
[05:06] <nathan28> well OSX disks are only $30
[05:06] <ndkelly> Not for this netbook.
[05:06] <ndkelly> netbooks dont have optical drives either.
[05:06] <nathan28> hackintosh?
[05:07] <ndkelly> yes
[05:07] <damo22> ndkelly, buy the retail osx disk and roll your own install usb
[05:07] <Zillow> hackintosh through vbox is nice
[05:07] <ndkelly> oops.
[05:08] <ndkelly> I intend to. But i need access to a genuine mac before i can make it. It never worked before in Linux or Windows.
[05:08] <damo22> ndkelly, i rolled one from linux
[05:08] <nathan28> ndkelly: if you have an OSX iso you're most of the way there already
[05:09] <ndkelly> really? I couldnt get mine to work.
[05:09] <Zillow> why not just run OS X in vbox and do it from there?
[05:09] <damo22> ndkelly, google nawcom
[05:09] <nathan28> the ISO? yeah i'm not sure how apple feels about letting users checkum it
[05:09] <ndkelly> It just seems to work better from a genuine mac. It's not impossible for me to get access to one, just selective.
[05:09] <victicom> what's cookin'?
[05:10] <ndkelly> damo22 have done. shall look into it, thanks
[05:10] <whumphrey> Can someone help me with a USB wireless adapter encryption issue?
[05:10] <ndkelly> Anyway, my netbook works for the minute so all good on that front. Minus the mouse but im still working on finding a fix.
[05:11] <syddraf> I have configured two of my 1TB drives in a RAID 1 setup. I've checked the configuration in the controller several times, and it appears to be correct, but Ubuntu is still recognizing the two drives as separate entities. Do I need to do something in Ubuntu to set this up properly?
[05:11] <nathan28> no mouse? i thought it worked better than a real mac?
[05:11] <nathan28> in *nix or in OSX?
[05:11] <ndkelly> Im talking about my Linux install.
[05:11] <nathan28> do you have the synaptics and mouse drivers installed?
[05:12] <ndkelly> the trackpad does work, but i cant get two finger scrolling to work
[05:12] <nathan28> that's X
[05:12] <ndkelly> Im not sure on this install, i've reinstalled 2/3 times today
[05:12] <nathan28> no
[05:12] <nathan28> easy fix
[05:12] <nathan28> unless your install disk is corrupted no need to reinstall
[05:13] <ndkelly> I moved from 11.10 to 10.04
[05:13] <whumphrey> Can someone help me with a USB wireless adapter encryption issue? Pretty please
[05:13] <ndkelly> nathan28 which package in Synaptic should i be looking at?
[05:14] <johnson17> ndkelly: Only bug report for my issue seems to be for the 11.10 amd64 beta: http://tinyurl.com/6m4lbyr. I don't think this is a serious issue. Probably an update that fixes it.
[05:14] <ndkelly> The xserver-xorg one?
[05:15] <ndkelly> johnson17 try moving back a step away from the beta?
[05:15] <Guest85217> :o
[05:15] <tammi> Hello room
[05:15] <h00k> johnson17: 11.10 isn't in beta
[05:15] <h00k> johnson17: are you talking about 12.04 alpha?
[05:16] <whumphrey> Hello
[05:16] <nathan28> ndkelly: see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics for two-finger config
[05:16] <whumphrey> I really could use some help
[05:16] <nathan28> also there are probably like ten front-ends that will turn it on for you automagically
[05:17] <johnson17> h00k: Check the link. It's an old bug report.
[05:17] <nathan28> whumphrey: what's the issue?
[05:17] <johnson17> ndkelly: Ok updates done - let me reboot and recheck. Be back in a few.
[05:18] <ndkelly> nathan28 even though this is on Archwiki, will the fix apply to Ubuntu 10.04?
[05:18] <whumphrey> nathan28, I have a usb wireless adapter. I have it working via ndiswrapper meaning it sees the network but I can only connect to it if I disable encryption
[05:19] <nathan28> ndkelly: it should
[05:19] <nathan28> you are still using X for your GUI
[05:20] <nathan28> whumphrey: i'm not familair w/ usb wireless
[05:20] <ndkelly> Define X?
[05:20] <nathan28> whumphrey: what encryption, and is your network SSID not boradcasting
[05:20] <nathan28> ndkelly: X11, the window server
[05:20] <nathan28> whatver GNOME/KDE/unity/openbox run on top of
[05:20] <ndkelly> Right. Thanks.
[05:21] <ndkelly> I'll give this a shot.
[05:21] <ndkelly> I tried a previous 'fix' to run a startup script, but for some reason the script i created wouldn't show up in nautilus
[05:21] <whumphrey> nathan28, It's broadcasting and I can see it but when prompted for the password, it won't connect. If I log into the router and disable encryption I can connect
[05:22] <nathan28> whumphrey: what are you using to connect?
[05:22] <whumphrey> I'm using a netgear wna3100 wireless usb network adapter
[05:23] <whumphrey> nathan28, I'm using a netgear wna3100 wireless usb network adapter
[05:23] <chipmonk> would not moun
[05:23] <chipmonk> t
[05:23] <johnson17> ndkelly: Problem solved. :)
[05:25] <magn3ts> Can anyone help me get my gnome-terminal title and tab title to be... not blank?
[05:25] <magn3ts> Please :)
[05:25] <syddraf> I have configured two of my 1TB drives in a RAID 1 setup. I've checked the configuration in the controller several times, and it appears to be correct, but Ubuntu is still recognizing the two drives as separate entities. Do I need to do something in Ubuntu to set this up properly?
[05:25] <ndkelly> johnson17 simply through updating?
[05:26] <ndkelly> nathan28 I appear to not have this file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf
[05:26] <damo22> syddraf, how do you know ubuntu is treating them separately
[05:26] <johnson17> ndkelly: Yep.
[05:26] <ndkelly> johnson17 good stuff. glad it's sorted
[05:26] <nathan28> ndkelly: probably not, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is for 'quirks'
[05:26] <SimonTam> Lxdm main process terminated with status 1
[05:26] <chipmonk> i may have rushed the setup and not let it finish basic format that could account for lost and found directory that was unreadable
[05:27] <nathan28> ndkelly: try to find a synaptics touchpad app
[05:27] <whumphrey> nathan28, thanks by the way for trying to help me out
[05:27] <johnson17> ndkelly: Me too. Now that this minor annoyance is fixed, I can get back to coding.
[05:27] <nathan28> whumphrey: sorry, jsut got back here
[05:27] <syddraf> damo22: when I run fdisk -l, they show as different devices. Gparted manipulates them individually. However "dmsetup ls" shows a device as existing.
[05:27] <whumphrey> nathan28, no worries man
[05:27] <nathan28> whumphrey: netgear's support on ndiswrapper sucks
[05:28] <whumphrey> nathan28, lmao
[05:28] <ndkelly> nathan28 gys
[05:28] <syddraf> damo22: a raid device as existing*
[05:28] <sun_devil> Iam trying to use the mv command to move a file and not sure if Iam creating the correct path
[05:28] <nathan28> netgear doesn't even support windows 64-bit on a lot of cards
[05:28] <damo22> syddraf, fdisk -l WILL treat them separately
[05:28] <ndkelly> gsynaptics* for example? **
[05:28] <nathan28> ndkelly: probably
[05:28] <whumphrey> nathan28, sheesh
[05:28] <damo22> syddraf, you shouldnt use fdisk on the actual low level device
[05:28] <nathan28> whumphrey: not "a lot" but enough
[05:29] <syddraf> damo22: Wasn't aware of that, thank you. But how can I go about formatting the array so that I can mount it?
[05:29] <damo22> syddraf, what is the name of the array /dev/md0?
[05:29] <whumphrey> nathan28, enough?
[05:29] <nathan28> iirc buffalo wireless is among the more reliable
[05:29] <nathan28> but what's the card?
[05:29] <whumphrey> nathan28, You think we can get it working you mean?
[05:29] <syddraf> damo22: It was /dev/dm-0. I just figured it out and used mkfs.ext4 on it. Thank you for your help.
[05:30] <whumphrey> nathan28, mine?
[05:30] <nathan28> yes
[05:30] <whumphrey> nathan28, wna3100
[05:30] <damo22> syddraf, ok
[05:30] <whumphrey> nathan28, n300
[05:31] <ndkelly> nathan28 gsynaptics allowed more sensitivity, which is a partial fix. Still no two finger scrolling though.
[05:34] <nathan28> whumphrey: you're in ubuntu, right? when you plug the card, do you get a 'proprietary drivers' thing showing up?
[05:35] <sun_devil> I did a find /www to find the www directory, tells me /www/bofh.html.  How do you move that dir into the /etc
[05:36] <whumphrey> nathan28, yes ubuntu 11.10, no proprietary pop up
[05:36] <diuneigh> Can someone please help me setup my swap partition?  The installer did not do it correctly and GParted will not recognize the /dev/sdb5 partition.  I don't think this is a hard problem.  I would like someone to help walk me through it.
[05:37] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   paste a picture of your disk utility shot
[05:37] <chipmonk> can someone tell me what this means
[05:37] <chipmonk> cindy@cindy-EK470AV-ABA-SR1730Z-NA620:/media/Brett$ fdisk -l /media/Brett
[05:37] <chipmonk> last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
[05:37] <chipmonk> cindy@cindy-EK470AV-ABA-SR1730Z-NA620:/media/Brett$
[05:37] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: hold on..
[05:37] <sun_devil> mv /www/bofh.html /etc   ??
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !paste|chipmonk
[05:38] <OerHeks> sun_devil, where did you find it? use that path
[05:38] <OerHeks> sun_devil, i guess it is in /var/www/ ?
[05:39] <sun_devil> I did a find and it just says /www/bofh.html
[05:39] <diuneigh> cfhowlett:  http://pastebin.com/2x7KJW7d
[05:39] <chipmonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/843995/
[05:39] <nathan28> whumphrey: were you able to get the card up w/out ndiswrapper?
[05:40] <whumphrey> nathan28, negative
[05:40] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   what size did you input
[05:40] <ndkelly> Ok, finally found an option to two finger scroll. however it hasn't worked so im going to try rebooting.
[05:40] <whumphrey> nathan28, If you wanna try I would be willing to though
[05:40] <whumphrey> nathan28, Everything I read told me that I had to install windows drivers via ndiswrapper
[05:41] <diuneigh> cfhowlett:  when I installed ubuntu I put 4096.  gparted reads it as 3.81 though.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   normal...
[05:42] <overclucker> sun_devil: why are you trying to move it to /etc ?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   this is a raid setup??
[05:42] <diuneigh> cfhowlett:  how can I check that?
[05:42] <diuneigh> cfhowlett:  probably not.. just a laptop.
[05:43] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: from what I have learned I need to unmount the swap file and start over.. but I don't know how to do that.
[05:43] <whumphrey> comcast blows
[05:43] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   immediately leap to mind is that you seem to have more than 4 primary partitions - which usually causes a choke on MBR
[05:43] <sun_devil> I have a group with /etc and need /www/bofh.html in it
[05:43] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   df -h the HDD
[05:43] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   i.e. list
[05:43] <sun_devil> I did a /etc and ls and did not see it in the dir
[05:44] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: no.. only 3 (/, swap, and /home)
[05:44] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   sdb"5"
[05:44] <hemanth> is it possible to pass password in cli to vinagre?
[05:44] <whumphrey> subliminal message >>>>>>>> comcast blows<<<<<<<<< subliminal message
[05:44] <cfhowlett> whumphrey   stop pleas
[05:45] <whumphrey> Geez, this is the no fun channel huh
[05:45] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   also, dual boot/wubi/anthing like that
[05:45] <cfhowlett> whumphrey   see #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:45] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/i39MXwSd   yea I noticed that too.. not sure why ubuntu jumped to sdb5
[05:45] <overclucker> sun_devil: what does 'a group with /etc' mean?
[05:45] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: nope just ubuntu 11.10 on my hdd
[05:45] <endafy> I have an Nvidia GTX 550 and this is a new install of Ubuntu on a new machine which drivers do I use, Version Current or Version Current-updates?
[05:45] <sun_devil> I have a group called adm with the directory /etc in it
[05:46] <nathan28> whumphrey: your card may have native support, what does $lsusb say?
[05:46] <ndkelly> Hm, the option is available and selected. But doesn't seem to work yet.
[05:46] <whumphrey> nathan28, whumphrey@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ lsusb
[05:46] <whumphrey> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[05:46] <whumphrey> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:46] <whumphrey> Bus 001 Device 016: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[05:46] <whumphrey> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device (Multicard Reader)
[05:47] <whumphrey> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0424:2512 Standard Microsystems Corp. USB 2.0 Hub
[05:47] <FloodBot1> whumphrey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <sun_devil> or a  directory called adm in /etc
[05:47] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   encrypted yes?
[05:47] <endafy> how the heck do I create a shortcut to an application on my desktop?
[05:47] <endafy> I used to just click create launcher what happened
[05:47] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: yes.. encrypted
[05:48] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: I only encrypted my /home during the installation though.
[05:48] <whumphrey> nathan28, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844001/
[05:48] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   tell you right now, I've not yet dealt with encryption....
[05:48] <hemanth> is it possible to pass password in cli to vinagre?
[05:48] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: my swap partition should be encrypted though would it?
[05:48] <overclucker> sun_devil: so . . .you have want to put an html file in /etc/adm ?
[05:49] <whumphrey> nathan28, I just got flood botted or somethin, can you still see my messages?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   IDK but I believe it might be...I seem to recall that encrypted swap is recommended
[05:50] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: do you know how to umount it in terminal?  Gparted says that it doesn't like the high number sdb5 and prefers a 1-4.
[05:50] <whumphrey> nathan28, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844001/
[05:51] <overclucker> ignore the 'have' in my last sentence...
[05:51] <cfhowlett> diuneigh   I'm going to stop here - don't wanna risk messing up your system due to my ignorance.  Please ask the channel again.  Sorry I couldn't provide actual help
[05:51] <diuneigh> Can someone please help me setup my swap partition?  The installer did not do it correctly and GParted will not recognize the /dev/sdb5 partition.  I don't think this is a hard problem.  I would like someone to help walk me through it.
[05:52] <diuneigh> cfhowlett: np thanks for trying.
[05:52] <whumphrey> nathan28, you looking for the chipset? ID 0846:9020
[05:52] <OerHeks> diuneigh, i thought swap is disabled for accounts with encrypted home, for security readons.
[05:52] <OerHeks> or reasons
[05:53] <diuneigh> OerHeks... I'm not sure... I was able to get it working once before by modifying the fstab.. I did that again this time but no luck.
[05:54] <sun_devil> I did a find and it says /etc/bofh.html      I want to put bofh.html in the www directory.  I created a dir in /etc called /adm
[05:55] <overclucker> diuneigh: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[05:55] <sun_devil> Sounds confusing
[05:56] <ChymistC1ris> is there free software for drawing inorganic molecules?
[05:56] <overclucker> sun_devil: are you allowing http users access to /etc ?
[05:56] <diuneigh> overclucker: http://pastebin.com/sSj34Jyc   ubuntu is on sdb
[05:56] <whumphrey> nathan28, did i lose you
[05:56] <sun_devil> I dont have any http users
[05:57] <sun_devil> I have not gotten to permissions yet
[06:00] <overclucker> sun_devil: seems rather risky to allow web users ANY access to /etc
[06:01] <diuneigh> overclucker: any ideas?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> ChymistC1ris   open your software center and search for "molecule" PLENTY of hits...
[06:01] <sun_devil> I have not given permissions to anyone, its just directory
[06:03] <nathan28_> whumphrey: have you seen http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Netgear_WNA3100
[06:03] <nathan28_> under ubuntu ndiswrapper needs some add'l love for yr card
[06:04] <overclucker> diuneigh: so, /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is on which partition?
[06:04] <nathan28_> hold on, previous client was hiding
[06:04] <diuneigh> overclucker: sdb5
[06:05] <OerHeks> diuneigh, line 36 Disk /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 doesn't contain a valid partition table > what means you messed it up, i am not sure how to get it right, the wiki says something like 'sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap' in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[06:05] <whumphrey> nathan28, Is there a particular part you're referring to
[06:06] <ndkelly> Say i don't own a file located in usr/lib/ but needed to replace it with an edited version, how might i go about it?
[06:07] <diuneigh> oerheks: reading it now.. thanks.
[06:07] <almoxarife> ndkelly: say you ask the owner?
[06:07] <ndkelly> I am the owner.
[06:08] <nathan28> ndkelly: you don't own the file in /usr
[06:08] <nathan28> root does
[06:08] <nathan28> whumphrey: the part about the uninitialzied variables
[06:08] <ndkelly> is there a way to acquire ownership?
[06:08] <nathan28> ndkelly: from something in /usr
[06:08] <nathan28> don't
[06:08] <nathan28> cp it to your home dir
[06:09] <almoxarife> ndkelly: nautilus is the easiest with the sudo extention
[06:09] <whumphrey> nathan28, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844016/
[06:09] <ndkelly> I've saved the version i need edited in /home
[06:09] <ndkelly> It's the file i had to edit to apply the trackpad fix on Archwiki.
[06:10] <diuneigh> overclucker: do you have any suggestions?
[06:10] <whumphrey> nathan28, does that apply to me I believe im on 32 bit
[06:10] <ndkelly> Only it was in usr not etc
[06:10] <dRounse> whats the difference between mini itx and micri atx
[06:12] <nathan28> whumphrey: you did the ndiswrapper -a part ?
[06:12] <almoxarife> ndkelly: unless you want to get all terminal on it do this 'gksu nautilus' and use nautilus to copy/remove
[06:12] <OerHeks> dRounse, some inches
[06:12] <whumphrey> let me check
[06:12] <Zillow> hey
[06:12] <dRounse> OerHeks: oh ok thank you, i want to build am htpc and didnt want to mess it up by ordering the wrong motherboard
[06:13] <Zillow> question: how do I override the system's perl and only use the perl in my home directory?
[06:13] <neo_> hi
[06:14] <cfhowlett> neo_   greetings
[06:14] <whumphrey> nathan28, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844022/
[06:15] <jswagner> anyone know a good GUI-based module player (like mikmod)?
[06:15] <nathan28> whumphrey: sudo !!
[06:16] <Rurd2di> hey guys i need help, my smbd server just starts then stops straight after
[06:16] <Rurd2di> sudo start smbd
[06:16] <habanero_> anyone notice that with the latest 11.10 update for flashplugin-installer, if using aptitude, it's trying to remove 75 other packages?
[06:16] <Rurd2di> then servic stops again
[06:17] <jswagner> I guess Rhythmbox works, I didn't even think to try it
[06:17] <dRounse> im reading online at newegg and google that people are using raid configs for an htpc, is that even neccassary? i think a real htpc would use one hdd or ssd just for the os and have everything run off a server, am i wrong?
[06:17] <ndkelly> almoxarife thank you, that allowed me to edit it. Plus i learned a new trick.
[06:17] <cypher-neo> habanero_, Haven't noticed
[06:17] <ndkelly> How might one restart X via terminal?
[06:17] <cypher-neo> habanero_, Ironically, I am installing that update right now.
[06:18] <habanero_> let me know how goes it
[06:18] <nathan28> ndkelly: ctrl-alt-f1, $killall X
[06:18] <almoxarife> ndkelly: no need to make it all complicated :) , gui is our friend
[06:18] <nathan28> you may have ctrl-alt-backspace enabled
[06:18] <cypher-neo> habanero_, No packages have been marked for deletion. All are installing.
[06:18] <nathan28> almoxarife: gui's a fair-weather friend
[06:18] <habanero_> cypher-neo_, apt-get or aptitude?
[06:19] <Zillow> hey how can I use a version of perl in my working directory instead of the system version?
[06:19] <cypher-neo> habanero_, Both
[06:19] <nathan28> ndkelly: you're going to lose all your open windows though
[06:19] <Zillow> er not working dir but home*
[06:19] <overclucker> diuneigh: is there any mention of swap in /etc/crypttab ?
[06:19] <habanero_> hmm.  crazy.  I've got 3 systems acting the same
[06:19] <habanero_> thanks for the input!
[06:19] <nathan28> habanero_: sounds like a reproduceable problem
[06:19] <habanero_> word
[06:20] <cypher-neo> habanero_, I have aptitude mainly for a shell script I wrote to scan for new packages.
[06:20] <cypher-neo> habanero_, I use apt-get to install and remove them however.
[06:20] <Zillow> join #debian
[06:20] <habanero_> i'll try apt-get
[06:20] <cypher-neo> habanero_, I don't like aptitude for installing because it does weird things like that on occasion.
[06:21] <habanero_> i agree, so does aptitude full-upgrade=apt-get upgrade?
[06:21] <Rurd2di> hmm smbd wont stay on
[06:21] <cypher-neo> habanero_, I'm still installing. I'll tell you if anything else happens momentarily.
[06:21] <Rurd2di> it just dies
[06:21] <Rurd2di> as soon as it starts
[06:21] <cypher-neo> habanero_, The two commands you'll need to learn on apt-get are "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:22] <habanero_> strange,  I'm running apt-get upgrade, and the result is "The following packages have been kept back" ... flash...
[06:22] <cypher-neo> habanero_, I only use apt-get dist-upgrade if apt-get upgrade doesn't install all the upgrades.
[06:23] <cypher-neo> habanero_, Packages will held back if the dependancies they require don't exist on the system. That's when you use dist-upgrade... to upgrade a package and it's local dependancies.
[06:23] <Rurd2di> igonre my issue guys
[06:23] <Rurd2di> i figured it out
[06:23] <Rurd2di> i fucked samba conf
[06:23] <Rurd2di> LOL
[06:23] <Rurd2di> :D
[06:24] <overclucker> diuneigh: is there any mention of swap in /etc/crypttab ?
[06:24] <dRounse> http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_parts.asp?PRID=18324 does that look like a good htpc?
[06:24] <whumphrey> nathan28, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844026/
[06:24] <whumphrey> nathan28, same issue
[06:25] <habanero_> ahh.  i've notices every now and again issues with updates like that.  maybe a dependency is borked or something similar.  maybe i'll wait until tomorrow and try again.  thanks for your help
[06:25] <diuneigh> overclucker: I do not see that dir.
[06:26] <diuneigh> overclucker: wait.. yes there is:  # <target name>	<source device>		<key file>	<options>
[06:26] <diuneigh> cryptswap1 /dev/sdb5 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
[06:26] <dRounse> ! | ubuntu
[06:27] <nathan28> whumphrey: looks like it installed tho
[06:28] <whumphrey> nathan28, yea
[06:28] <nathan28> can't connect to the WPA network tho?
[06:28] <diuneigh> overclucker: brb need to reboot.
[06:28] <whumphrey> nathan28, brb, let me try restarting, that's correct
[06:29] <nathan28> whumphrey: post dmesg | grep ndiswrapper to yr pastebin
[06:29] <dRounse> ! | grep
[06:29] <Ben64> dRounse: what are you doing
[06:29] <dRounse> Ben64: what do you mean?
[06:29] <nathan28> dRounse: thx
[06:29] <Ben64> dRounse: the random triggers for ubottu
[06:30] <dRounse> Ben64: ubottu is my friend
[06:30] <nathan28> Ben64: it's a bot for a bot?
[06:30] <nathan28> dRounse: are you human?
[06:30] <Ben64> dRounse: take it to PM if you want to do that stuff
[06:30] <dRounse> nathan28: yes im human
[06:30] <nathan28> Ben64: no he was being helpful
[06:30] <nathan28> on the grep
[06:31] <dRounse> considering this chat room is gettin dull, im adding some spice
[06:31] <Ben64> the room doesn't need spice
[06:31] <seigor35> 6t5r4e3w2q1
[06:31] <kroonrs> Why does an open instance of Libre-Office not show up as an option when I alt-tab? (Unity on 11.10)
[06:31] <nathan28> seigor35: you might want to change that password now
[06:31] <whumphrey> nathan28, paste.ubuntu.com/844031/
[06:31] <ChipCherou> I keep running into problems with the lack og xorg.conf .  how do I tell ubuntu to run radeon instead of the lacking nvidia card?
[06:32] <dRounse> people are quiting left and right the room def needs spice
[06:32] <overclucker> the spice must flow
[06:33] <overclucker> that's probably a split
[06:33] <dRounse> ! | spice
[06:34] <Ben64> dRounse: seriously, if you want to explore the bot's triggers, take it to PM
[06:34] <dRounse> ubottu doesnt know what spice is... ahhhhh
[06:34] <shellcode84> i locked out i did something in xorg.conf
[06:35] <shellcode84> im useing a different pc
[06:35] <dRounse> is an atom good for an htpc?
[06:35] <shellcode84> ubuntu does not reboot
[06:36] <shellcode84> i have to stay stuck in alt alt f1
[06:36] <overclucker> shellcode84: did you back up xorg.conf before making alterations?
[06:37] <ChipCherou> My X is failing at loading the NVIDIA driver....which is obvious since I have an ATI video card.  How do I fix this since xorg has been made depreciated?
[06:37] <shellcode84> yea i have a backup
[06:37] <Ben64> ChipCherou: which nvidia driver is it attempting to load
[06:37] <shellcode84> can i access it via ctrl-alt f1
[06:37] <shellcode84> ?
[06:38] <ChipCherou> Ben64: fglrx
[06:38] <Ben64> shellcode84: yes, thats a full terminal you have access to there
[06:38] <Ben64> ChipCherou: fglrx isn't nvidia
[06:38] <overclucker> shellcode84: yup
[06:38] <shellcode84> alright how can i  access it
[06:38] <shellcode84> sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:39] <ChipCherou> Ben64: 2 lines down it says Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found).
[06:39] <ChipCherou> Ben64: this aside, how do I tell it to use 'radeon'
[06:39] <Ben64> ChipCherou: 2 lines of what? down from what?
[06:40] <ChipCherou> Ben64: the startx output
[06:40] <overclucker> shellcode84: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.confg /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken
[06:40] <Ben64> ChipCherou: did you have an nvidia card previously?
[06:40] <shellcode84> alright
[06:40] <shellcode84> imma try thatt
[06:40] <ChipCherou> Ben64: yes
[06:40] <overclucker> shellcode84: you should probably fix my typo though...
[06:41] <whumphrey> nathan28, I'm back
[06:41] <overclucker> shellcode84: that's to back up your broken xorg.conf
[06:41] <Ben64> ChipCherou: then you need to remove the nvidia drivers via apt-get
[06:41] <ChipCherou> Ben64: isn't there a way for me to force x to load radeon drivers instead (this linux jumps between ati and nvidia)
[06:42] <whumphrey> nathan28, now the wireless networks don't appear
[06:42] <Ben64> ChipCherou: you can create an xorg.conf
[06:42] <ChipCherou> Ben64: in /etc/X11?
[06:42] <Ben64> ChipCherou: yep.
[06:43] <ChipCherou> Ben64: Thank you, I thought it wouldn't work cause its depreciated.  Ill give it a shot
[06:43] <nathan28> whumphrey: your issue is w/ iw_set_auth and iw_set_freq... maybe hard-code it? it's past my bedtime so try to hit up google... good luck
[06:43] <overclucker> shellcode84: then sudo cp /path/to/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf change the first part to the the actual location of your backup
[06:43] <Ben64> ChipCherou: yeah, will still work, its just not needed anymore
[06:43] <kroonrs> Why does an open instance of Libre-Office not show up as an option when I alt-tab? (Unity on 11.10)?
[06:43] <whumphrey> thanks
[06:44] <ChipCherou> Ben64: is there a way to have X automatically use the correct driver instead of hard coding it requiring me to have xorg.conf?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> kroonrs  see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/libreoffice-ship-global-menu-default-11-10/
[06:44] <kroonrs> kroonrs: ok, looks like a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/886121
[06:45] <Ben64> ChipCherou: it usually does, but if you have both drivers on i guess it can be confused
[06:45] <kroonrs> cfhowlett: what is the impact of not having global menus?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> kroonrs   I don't use 11.10 but as I understand it, you can't use the shortcut method you described as broken
[06:47] <kroonrs> cfhowlett: well, that's pretty crappy :( just because of menu style, you can't access an application you've launched, and need to terminate it with a kill signal if you switch from it
[06:48] <cfhowlett> kroonrs  hopefully a fix is forthcoming.
[06:49] <kroonrs> cfhowlett: Fix released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/842566
[06:51] <shellcode84> overclucker:
[06:51] <kroonrs> cfhowlett: so how do i know when a "fix released" will make it to my desktop?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> kroonrs   gonna have to refer you to the bug report for that info.  Sorry.  I'm only  a user like you.
[06:51] <endafy> vlc media player 2.0 plays bluray on Linux
[06:51] <shellcode84> says cp not such stat ,'etc//x11/xorg,conf
[06:52] <shellcode84> no such file or directory
[06:52] <endafy> I cant believe it lol
[06:52] <kroonrs> cfhowlett: heh, see there are 28 duplicates of the bug
[06:52] <endafy> it actually works lol
[06:52] <shellcode84> says cp not such stat ,'etc//x11/xorg,conf
 no such file or directory
[06:55] <overclucker> shellcode84: that's probably because you specified a relative path from somewhere other than '/'.
[06:55] <shellcode84> i wrote how u wrote it
[06:55] <kroonrs> shellcode84: you have // in your path
[06:56] <overclucker> shellcode84: use an absolute path, meaning start the path from / ie: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:56] <kroonrs> shellcode84: and xorg,conf
[06:56] <shellcode84> i know the x.config is on the file system
[06:57] <overclucker> kroonrs: actually // shouldn't change the result, but the other typos should
[06:58] <overclucker> kroonrs: ls ///////////etc////////
[06:58] <shellcode84> i typed extacly sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg,conf
[06:58] <shellcode84> saying missing destination file operand
[06:58] <overclucker> shellcode84: its a capital X in X11
[06:58] <shellcode84> o it is? lol
[06:59] <shellcode84> haha
[07:00] <overclucker> shellcode84: i suggest getting more familiar with the command line...
[07:01] <shellcode84> yea
[07:01] <shellcode84> command no found
[07:01] <shellcode84> i type everthing u said even change the X
[07:02] <overclucker> what command?
[07:02] <overclucker> !bash | shellcode84
[07:02] <shellcode84> I type it like this
[07:02] <swetha> Suggest me a software for php editing???
[07:03] <snowrichard> swetha netbeans ide and eclipse both have php modules
[07:03] <jswagner> swetha: sublime text 2
[07:03] <shellcode84> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken
[07:03] <goathouse774> my xubuntu install from a live dvd is taking forever at the end (about an inch left in the progress bar.)  Is this normal?
[07:03] <jswagner> how long?
[07:04] <Ben64> shellcode84: what does it say when you do "ls -lh /etc/X11/xorg.conf*"
[07:04] <goathouse774> It's been stuck there for about 15 min.
[07:04] <shellcode84> i havent tried that yet
[07:04] <goathouse774> the ethernet port is flashing quite a bit
[07:04] <snowrichard> is it downloading software at that point?
[07:04] <goathouse774> it isn't saying it is anymore
[07:04] <jswagner> goathouse774: standard ubuntu install tends to stall at the end while it downloads updates and "language packs"
[07:04] <snowrichard> probably normal then
[07:05] <goathouse774> ok good
[07:05] <jswagner> esp. if you told it to download restricted extras, i think it does this then
[07:06] <overclucker> shellcode84: also what command ? bash should tell you, bash: fooberdeegook: command not found
[07:06] <goathouse774> what are some interesting things that a new-to-linux person can do to put it through the paces?
[07:06] <shellcode84> i try the ls -lh
[07:06] <blackslik> Helo everybody... I am having problems using makefile and ./configure on my latest ubuntu from the terminal
[07:07] <shellcode84> it says,"-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.8k
[07:07] <fidel> ahoi
[07:07] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, the restricted-extras are not installed on the install just a heads up.
[07:07] <overclucker> shellcode84: you'll have to type in the *exact* command he gave you
[07:07] <goathouse774> they're not?
[07:08] <shellcode84> i did and it gave me that info
[07:08] <blackslik> which command to use to update all dependences
[07:08] <blackslik> ?
[07:08] <shellcode84> with quote or without?
[07:08] <goathouse774> by "restricted extras" are you referring to flash, etc.?
[07:08] <blackslik> :(
[07:08] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, no you can get some codecs with the install but that package is available after the install.
[07:09] <overclucker> shellcode84: ls -lh /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[07:09] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, yes ms fonts and media codecs
[07:09] <urfr332g0> and*
[07:09] <shellcode84> alright,i did that and it show wat i posted it
[07:10] <Ben64> shellcode84: pastebin the whole output
[07:12] <shellcode84> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.8k 2012-02-16 00:16 /etc/X11/xorg.config
[07:12] <Israfel> Ubuntu allows encryption of users directories, correct?
[07:12] <crizzy_> correct
[07:12] <Israfel> How would someone SSH into their account if they're not currently logged in on that computer?/
[07:12] <whumphrey> anyone willing to try and help me with an encryption issue using a wireless usb adapter? I got it working but not with encryption
[07:13] <Israfel> They key would be encrypted.
[07:13] <crizzy_> Israfel: ssh'ing into the account is logging in, no ? :)
[07:13] <overclucker> shellcode84: can it ends with .config ?
[07:13] <Israfel> it's not.
[07:13] <crizzy_> umm, ok
[07:13] <Ben64> ssh is logging in
[07:13] <Israfel> Not if you're using SSH keys.
[07:13] <overclucker> ignore 'can'
[07:14] <crizzy_> well, with ssh keys it doesn't work, then
[07:14] <crizzy_> :P
[07:14] <shellcode84> Im sorry can it what
[07:14] <Israfel> Is there a way to leave part of it unencrypted?
[07:14] <Israfel> Mainly the .ssh folder?
[07:15] <overclucker> sorry, my thoughts change direction too quickly. are you sure it ends with .config ?
[07:15] <shellcode84> lol well does it?
[07:16] <shellcode84> should i take out . than
[07:16] <Ben64> Israfel: this might work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/362427/comments/12
[07:16] <Ben64> shellcode84: you're the one who ran the ls command, you should know what it said
[07:17] <overclucker> shellcode84: try this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:17] <shellcode84> alright,i did and i post it what it said to me
[07:17] <shellcode84> backk
[07:19] <Israfel> Ben64, reading it now, hope it's a working fix.
[07:19] <overclucker> shellcode84: i wanted you to verify that what you posted was correct, since you previously mentioned you were typing in chat from another computer
[07:20] <shellcode84> i see
[07:20] <shellcode84> command not found
[07:20] <shellcode84> xorg.config
[07:21] <mikeliss> I think I may be in the middle of uninstalling the kernel on my server...uname -a shows the one that's currently uninstalling.
[07:21] <mikeliss> Is this because the next version installed, and I need to reboot?
[07:21] <overclucker> shellcode84: waht command isn't found? what are you typing? what is the exact output?
[07:22] <mikeliss> I'll admit I'm freaking just a bit.
[07:22] <shellcode84>  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:22] <Engin> how do I check why my /etc/cron.hourly script does no work
[07:23] <shellcode84> command not found /etc/X11/xorg.config
[07:23] <Ben64> Engin: look in syslog
[07:23] <urfr332g0> mikeliss, that command just shows the kernel, to remove one you woulf have to do it.
[07:23] <Ben64> shellcode84: you aren't typing it correctly
[07:23] <urfr332g0> would
[07:23] <bkerensa> !justask mikeliss
[07:23] <shellcode84> thats what overclucker wrote
[07:23] <bkerensa> !justask | mikeliss
[07:24] <goathouse774> Given that android is built on linux, is there a functional relationship between ubuntu and android?
[07:24] <Engin> Ben64: no error, just: Feb 16 09:17:01 enda-plc-server CRON[26685]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[07:24] <Ben64> shellcode84: yes, but thats not what you typed into ubuntu
[07:24] <bkerensa> Engin: You could check System Log Viewer or /var/log/cron, /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[07:24] <shellcode84> I'M actually stuck at the crtrl alt f1
[07:25] <shellcode84> command
[07:25] <overclucker> shellcode84: make sure you have sudo cp befoer thoose file names
[07:25] <shellcode84> i did
[07:25] <Engin> bkerensa: hmm i noticed i haven't used absolute paths in one of the commands... what would be the working directory of execution of this script i wonder
[07:25] <shellcode84> do that
[07:25] <Ben64> shellcode84: you forgot something, or it wouldn't say 'command not found'
[07:26] <mikeliss> So uname -a shows the kernel I'm using and /boot shows one with a higher version, and I'm currently uninstalling the one I'm running. Have a screwed up?
[07:26] <shellcode84> ok im type it see if is correct
[07:26] <Ben64> mikeliss: why and how are you uninstalling the kernel?
[07:27] <urfr332g0> goathouse774, there is a #android channel they might be helpful as well.
[07:27] <shellcode84> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf is that correct?
[07:27] <jjprieto> .
[07:27] <Y_Ichiro> hm, it never ceases to amaze me how the programs that i never use like Libreoffice somehow makes it onto the desktop but programs like Terminal which there are no shortcuts for in Ubuntu
[07:27] <bkerensa> mikeliss: How do you know you are uninstalling it? What command did you issue?
[07:27] <mikeliss> Ben64: The boot partition was full of old ones...but I may have mis-calculated which I can remove. Removing it with apt-get.
[07:27] <overclucker> mikeliss: what do you plan to do if the new kernel doesn't work correctly?
[07:28] <mikeliss> overclucker: liveCD, I suppose...not a great option.
[07:28] <Ben64> mikeliss: you didn't install a new one before?
[07:28] <mikeliss> Ben64: Well, it's in /boot, so I suppose it's installed.
[07:28] <overclucker> mikeliss: it'd a good idea to keep at least one 'known' working kernel to fall back on.
[07:28] <mikeliss> Can't say I pay a ton of attention since I typically just let Apt/update manager do their things.
[07:28] <Ben64> mikeliss: i wouldn't count on that, check using dpkg
[07:29] <urfr332g0> Y_Ichiro, shortcuts like ctrl-alt-t
[07:29] <urfr332g0> programs like I guesss?
[07:29] <mikeliss> Ben64: Dpkg shows ii next to the version higher than the one I'm removing.
[07:29] <stephans> Ok so the funniest thing happened after I applied all the updates to my ubuntu laptop... no all of a sudden my mouse wheel scrolls the other way! I have to roll forward to go down the page. Tred several mice... same thing... what coule that be?
[07:29] <mikeliss> Ben64: Meaning it's installed, yes?
[07:29] <Ben64> mikeliss: should be good then, just run update-grub before you reboot
[07:30] <mikeliss> Ben64: that should have been run automatically already, right?
[07:30] <mikeliss> Ben64: Is there a way to tell if the system is awaiting a reboot from me?
[07:30] <Ben64> mikeliss: it can't hurt to do it again
[07:30] <Ben64> mikeliss: do you have a desktop
[07:30] <trond-> Y_Ichiro, most likely because Ubuntu doesn't want the perception of Linux = command line / shell to continue. Most people just want their system to work and if it doesn't, make it work without using the shell and a bunch of commands that they don't understand anyway.
[07:30] <mikeliss> Ben64: Naw, it's a server, and I a poor admin, but I notice now that the MOTD wants a reboot.
[07:31] <prashant_123456> chkdsk like utility for ubuntu 11.10 ??
[07:31] <Ben64> mikeliss: is it a server you can physically touch?
[07:31] <n2diy> prashant_123456, fsck
[07:31] <urfr332g0> prashant_123456, fsck
[07:31] <prashant_123456> n2diy, urfr332g0 ok thanks
[07:31] <mikeliss> Ben64: Nope, but I can find somebody that can....with some effort.
[07:32] <n2diy> urfr332g0, dvorak beats qwerty?
[07:32] <Ben64> mikeliss: then you'll want to make sure grub is good before rebooting :)
[07:32] <dem0n> hey has anyone here added "exploit-db" svn to their ubuntu system?
[07:32] <urfr332g0> !fsck > prashant_123456
[07:32] <overclucker> shellcode84: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:32] <urfr332g0> n2diy, ???
[07:32] <mikeliss> Ben64: Hahaha, eff, not my finest hour...but at least /boot will have some space, I suppose. Thanks for the help.
[07:32] <n2diy> urfr332g0, keyboard layouts, I'm using dvorak.
[07:32] <urfr332g0> n2diy, not a clue here. :)
[07:32] <Ben64> mikeliss: no problem. i've been managing servers for about a decade now
[07:33] <mikeliss> Ben64: Once it comes back up from the reboot, am I safe deleting all the other old kernel bits sitting around in /boot?
[07:33] <Ben64> mikeliss: apt-get should remove all those
[07:34] <mikeliss> Ben64: Excellent. I'll put it to work. Thanks again.
[07:34] <wisnia> hi, how to change fonts in gnome ?
[07:34] <overclucker> mikeliss: use apt-get to remove them, else you'll miss all the modules
[07:36] <Nicekiwi> is there a graphical frontend for managing users and group for gnome/ubuntu avaliable?
[07:37] <Ben64> Nicekiwi: users-admin ?
[07:39] <Nicekiwi> Ben64, is that in the Ubuntu repos?
[07:40] <Ben64> Nicekiwi: it should come installed by default
[07:40] <Nicekiwi> its not
[07:40] <Nicekiwi> not with 11.10
[07:40] <Ben64> Nicekiwi: i just went to the ubuntu menu -> system -> administration -> users
[07:41] <Nicekiwi> Ben64, that dosnt let u manage groups does it?
[07:41] <Nicekiwi> Ben64, u can just set ur role and anme.pic etc
[07:41] <Ben64> Nicekiwi: it does
[07:42] <urfr332g0> ben225, gnome2 eh.
[07:42] <Nicekiwi> Ben64, ru refering to Gnome-system-tools?
[07:42] <Ben64> its called users-admin
[07:42] <Ben64> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138K 2010-11-26 05:42 /usr/bin/users-admin
[07:43] <Nicekiwi> Ben64, hmm random, that doesnt come up form the shortcut u mentioned, but is installed and dosnt show up in synaptic -thanks
[07:44] <blackslik_> sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:44] <blackslik_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:44] <blackslik_> Building dependency tree
[07:44] <blackslik_> Reading state information... Done
[07:44] <blackslik_> Package nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:44] <FloodBot1> blackslik_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <blackslik_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:45] <khazik> hmmm
[07:45] <blackslik_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844067/
[07:45] <Ben64> blackslik_: what version ubuntu
[07:45] <blackslik_> latest
[07:46] <Ben64> which would be...?
[07:46] <blackslik_> 11.11
[07:46] <blackslik_> sorry 11.10
[07:47] <Ben64> !info nmap
[07:47] <Edico> hi
[07:47] <Edico> is there a package for aptana studio?
[07:47] <Ben64> blackslik_: you might have something weird going on in your apt sources, its a standard package
[07:47] <blackslik_> what to do boss
[07:47] <blackslik_> ?
[07:48] <blackslik_> becos i cant even makefile or ./configure files
[07:48] <Ben64> nmap wouldn't affect that
[07:48] <overclucker> blackslik_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:48] <dr_willis> do a.   sudo apt-get update.    recently?
[07:49] <dr_willis> update, upgrade try again
[07:50] <blackslik_> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[07:50] <blackslik_> yes
[07:50] <blackslik_> i did
[07:50] <overclucker> blackslik_: try what dr_willis said first
[07:50] <blackslik_> yes i have done that jst some mins back
[07:50] <dr_willis> that's a file..  not a command.  for sources. list
[07:51] <blackslik_> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <blackslik_> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[07:51] <blackslik_> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <blackslik_> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[07:51] <overclucker> blackslik_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <dr_willis> its a file. not a command.. .
[07:52] <blackslik_> ok ok
[07:52] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:53] <blackslik_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844069/
[07:53] <overclucker> blackslik_: dapper?
[07:53] <overclucker> blackslik_: what's the output of lsb_release -a
[07:57] <blackslik_> lsb_release -a
[07:57] <blackslik_> No LSB modules are available.
[07:57] <blackslik_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[07:57] <blackslik_> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[07:57] <blackslik_> Release:	11.10
[07:57] <FloodBot1> blackslik_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <blackslik_> Codename:	oneiric
[07:57] <kroonrs> hi - I'm running an application inside an xterm, that is controlled by function keys, but when I press F10, my dropbox menu in the notification area drops down.  Any idea how I can get the F10 to actually reach my xterm? (oneiric, unity)
[07:57] <Ben64> blackslik_: somehow you have a sources.list from about 4 years ago, which is a problem
[07:58] <blackslik_> so what to do bro?
[07:58] <Ben64> blackslik_: replace it with one from 11.10
[07:58] <overclucker> blackslik_: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[07:58] <kroonrs> (if I quit dropbox, the next application in the notification area's menu drops down)
[07:58] <Ben64> overclucker: nice! never knew about that
[07:59] <overclucker> Ben64: there's one for debian systems too. beats looking a sources.list online
[07:59] <Ben64> overclucker: yeah, looks great
[08:00] <malloc> kroonrs, you need to look into xterm's options
[08:01] <blackslik_> ben64: kinda confuse
[08:01] <blackslik_> on downloading the sourcelist
[08:01] <kroonrs> malloc: but unity is capturing the f10 before it gets to xterm, it seems (the other function keys work fine in Xterm)
[08:02] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have a correct list. i cant imagine how your list changed.
[08:02] <Ben64> blackslik_: go to that site overclucker said, and use that to generate a new one
[08:03] <malloc> kroonrs, oh i see.. well then perhaps you need to look into unity's own preferences.. probably some option to change that F10 function
[08:03] <blackslik_> ok thanks
[08:03] <overclucker> blackslik_: pick your country, release (oneiric) and check 'Main', 'Security', and 'Updates' at minimum. you can check more if you want
[08:04] <kroonrs> malloc: installed gconf-editor - looks like F10 is mapped to 6 different shortcuts in unity *sigh*
[08:04] <goathouse774|> Ok.  So I went to google.com and went for chrome.  Lo and behold there was a linux version.  I merely downloaded it and the app store thing popped up and now my comp is slow as mud.  I can't really do anything.
[08:05] <goathouse774|> The comp is making a bunch of noise like it's trying hard to accomplish something
[08:05] <dr_willis> chromium browser is in the repos
[08:06] <tewea> i have an external hard disck and i can't write to it what  shal i do just iam using linux and the hard disck format is FAT32
[08:06] <dr_willis> noise? check dmesg output
[08:06] <goathouse774|> You know, just the classic noise computers make when working to open stuff
[08:07] <dr_willis> tewea:  you want all users full write avcess?
[08:07] <goathouse774|> Dmesg?  I can't really do anything right now.  It's so so slow...
[08:07] <tewea> dr_willis: yes
[08:08] <dr_willis> tewea:  i tend to install and run the   ntfs-config tool   to enable it for ntfs and vfat
[08:08] <goathouse774|> Was it a mistake to download chrome from google.com?
[08:09] <dr_willis> goathouse774|: i doubt if thats the issue
[08:09] <dr_willis> i use chrome on ubuntu normally
[08:09] <goathouse774|> This is xubuntu
[08:09] <dr_willis> its all the same core
[08:10] <blackslik_> overclucker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844084/
[08:10] <goathouse774|> I'm surprised to see this kind of slowdown with a fresh install...
[08:10] <avisek> hallow..... I have to install driver for SAMSUNG ML - 1676 Monocrome printer.............. i have a file for that on gr.tz format........... I do not know how to install it
[08:10] <goathouse774|> Is there an equivalent to ctrl-alt-delete?
[08:11] <rzx237> goathouse774|: I've heard that google chrome collect user statistic
[08:11] <avisek> can some body help??????
[08:11] <overclucker> blackslik_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <goathouse774|> I didn't install chrome yet
[08:11] <damo22> avisek, tar zxvf gr.tz
[08:11] <dr_willis> avisek: with what?
[08:11] <goathouse774|> The app store thing tried to open and basically stalled the whole system out
[08:11] <urfr332g0> avisek, have you looked i printers to see if the driver is available there.
[08:11] <urfr332g0> in
[08:12] <urfr332g0> printer actually
[08:12] <dr_willis> drivers may be in the repos.
[08:12] <sarah> ph
[08:12] <goathouse774|> Is there a way to force close processes?
[08:12] <dr_willis> in extra packages
[08:12] <avisek> yes...... i download it from the samsung site....
[08:12] <Myrtti> avisek: it might work out of the box, you don't necessarily even need to install anything if you're lucky
[08:13] <avisek> but i don't know how to install it............
[08:13] <dr_willis> avisek:  that donload may not be needed
[08:13] <damo22> avisek, try the standard printer setup in ubuntu first
[08:13] <avisek> i also tried it...
[08:14] <Useranonimo> hello, someone can see my ip? thanks
[08:14] <avisek> it is showing my printer...
[08:14] <damo22> avisek, so whats the problem? does it print?
[08:14] <avisek> but it does not working...
[08:14] <dr_willis> !printers
[08:14] <Useranonimo> hello, someone can see my ip? thanks
[08:14] <avisek> no...
[08:15] <goathouse774|> I really need to force close or do a hard shut down.  This is grotesque.  :)
[08:15] <urfr332g0> Useranonimo, you xcan check it yourself
[08:15] <urfr332g0> can
[08:15] <tewea> dr_willis:alradey i  installe it then what is next?
[08:15] <Ben64> goathouse774|: run top or htop and see whats eating all the resources
[08:15] <goathouse774|> How?
[08:15] <avisek> ok....
[08:15] <dr_willis> tewea:  run it :-)
[08:16] <Useranonimo> I'm connect to irc with tor, a proxy, how can I know my ip? Thank you!
[08:16] <Ben64> goathouse774|: fastest way is to ssh in from another computer, but you can open a terminal and do it there
[08:16] <avisek> thanks for answering......   i will try once more.............
[08:16] <goathouse774|> I can't even close my browser yet
[08:16] <urfr332g0> Useranonimo, run a whats my ip in your browser ruuning tor
[08:17] <Ben64> goathouse774|: or you can do CTRL+ALT+F1 and login from console
[08:17] <goathouse774|> And there are bars along the top and bottom (errors, basically).
[08:17] <goathouse774|> How do I do that?
[08:18] <Ben64> CTRL+ALT+F1 brings you to a console with a login prompt
[08:19] <goathouse774|> Ok now what do I do?
[08:19] <dr_willis> reboot command    :-)
[08:19] <goathouse774|> How do I "be root"?
[08:19] <dr_willis> or sudo service lightdm restart
[08:20] <dr_willis> !sudo
[08:21] <goathouse774|> Ok, but what do I type to reboot now?
[08:21] <dr_willis> reboot   .....
[08:21] <dr_willis> is tge cimmand..
[08:21] <goathouse774|> I need to "be root" first
[08:21] <dr_willis> or restart x
[08:21] <damo22> sudo reboot
[08:21] <dr_willis> use sudo
[08:22] <dr_willis> :-)
[08:22] <Ben64> or kill the process taking all the cpu
[08:22] <goathouse774|> Too late, I rebooted
[08:22] <Ben64> that works too
[08:22] <damo22> or you can go to console mode and press ctrl alt del
[08:22] <dr_willis> actually alt ctrl del. on the console may reboot
[08:23] <damo22> touch wood
[08:23] <Ben64> too bad ctrl alt backspace doesnt work anymore
[08:23] <goathouse774|> That was brutal
[08:23] <damo22> that was handy that command
[08:23] <dr_willis> it works for me. :-)
[08:23] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[08:23] <damo22> ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:23] <Ben64> yeah i think theres a way to...
[08:24] <dr_willis> theres always a way
[08:24] <Ben64> my x server doesnt mess up nearly as often as it did 5 years ago though
[08:24] <dr_willis> in linux.
[08:25] <Ben64> and if it does, i have my phone to ssh from
[08:25] <dr_willis> android ssh is handy.
[08:25] <urfr332g0> reisub
[08:25] <Ben64> its the main reason i got a smartphone
[08:26] <goathouse774|> Android ssh allows you to what, exactly?
[08:26] <damo22> alt sysrq r e i s u b
[08:27] <dr_willis> ssh into a ssh server
[08:27] <damo22> does a clean shutdown
[08:27] <dr_willis> !ssh
[08:28] <Z3Rt> http://goo.gl/De1KS
[08:28] <urfr332g0> damo22, that is the reboot a shutdown is reisuo
[08:28] <damo22> too bad i dont have sysrq key
[08:28] <urfr332g0> prtsc
[08:28] <damo22> nope
[08:28] <damo22> im on a macbook
[08:29] <Guest70179> i have unbuntu 11.10 and i tried to install updates but it will not allow me to do so if gives me an error message saying unable to connect to internet. can anyone help me?
[08:31] <knoppies> I am having problems with direct rendering (using ATI HD5470 on ubuntu10.10), so I downloaded the new driver from the amd website and installed it, but "glxinfo | grep direct" still states "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set" which I googled and a forum post suggested "unset LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT" which works for my current terminal only, and does not work for wine. Can you help me to permenantly remove the environment variable "unset LIBGL_AL
[08:31] <knoppies> WAYS_INDIRECT" for all terminal sessions (including programs run with wine). I have plenty more info, but I dont want to flood the channel.
[08:32] <knoppies> reading that back to myself makes my IQ sound so low. :( Sorry if I over-compressed it.
[08:33] <knoppies> Guest70179, are you connecting to this IRC channel using the machine in question?
[08:33] <Guest70179> yes i am
[08:33] <knoppies> Guest70179, are you using apt-get or synaptic (or some other package manager?)
[08:35] <Guest70179> you will have to excuse me i am a n00b, i believe its synaptic
[08:35] <goathouse774> is it safe to install apps from the web vs. the software center?
[08:36] <goathouse774> for instance, I have the chrome installer downloaded, but should I run it or use Chromium?
[08:36] <knoppies> goathouse774, safe as in "Will it kill my computer because of some bug" or safe as in "Will there be a virus somehow embedded/associated with the software"
[08:37] <knoppies> goathouse774, I use Chromium Im not sure what chrome offers that chromium doesnt. Maybe flash?? I have installed both on the same machine before, and used both Simultaneously, its up to you.
[08:37] <goathouse774> safe as in "I've sort of come to understand that the libraries in linux distros are arranged in such a way as to make apps sometimes not play nice"
[08:37] <knoppies> Guest70179, synaptic is the GUI in GNOME. Open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" (you might have to close Synaptic first)
[08:38] <goathouse774> or is that more a developer thing than a user thing?
[08:38] <overclucker> goathouse774: if you get the package from a trustworthy source, then you should be fine
[08:38] <knoppies> goathouse774, I have noticed similar things, but more so when I am installing outdated software which wants outdated/obsolete libraries.
[08:39] <goathouse774> so, for example, I can safely go find the latest Firefox for linux and install it safely without concern?
[08:39] <knoppies> goathouse774, Probably, I dont use firefox so much anymore.
[08:39] <goathouse774> what do you use?
[08:39] <tensorpudding> linux has some things which make such behaviors difficult
[08:39] <knoppies> Chromium (and Chrome)
[08:40] <plusEV> y0 I had a little scuare on my taskbar that i could choose what virtual monitor to go to. I managed to unpin that icon and now I cant find it. How do I put that back there? using pinguy os 11.04.1
[08:40] <goathouse774> so how would one know if a program has or could soon have outdated libraries?  that sounds very high-maintenaince.
[08:40] <tensorpudding> what do you mean "has outdated libraries"
[08:40] <plusEV> square even.
[08:41] <tensorpudding> is pinguy a supported derivative
[08:41] <metaspike> goathouse774, the program will complain in stdin (terminal) or wont work at all if the libraries are outdated, assuming the program maintainer knows what they're doing.
[08:41] <tensorpudding> goathouse774, there's a tool called ldd, on the terminal, which searches the library path and will tell you what file corresponds to every dynamic library that the app is linked to
[08:42] <goathouse774> doesn't linux have a more regulated mass-update scheme that serves as one of it's main distinctions from windows?
[08:42] <tensorpudding> goathouse774, if there's a hole where no file is assigned, the program will not start
[08:42] <tensorpudding> goathouse774, each distribution updates its software at a different rate, to different versions
[08:42] <tensorpudding> goathouse774, it's a madhouse
[08:42] <knoppies> metaspike, when I said "outdated libraries" I meant that the software depends on such libraries. goathouse774 anything from new versions of the libraries to a release date that is set a few years ago. Another big clue is if you can no longer get the libraries from ubuntu's default repositories.
[08:43] <tensorpudding> goathouse774, instead of getting the latest version from mozilla it's much simpler to use the package included in your distribution
[08:44] <goathouse774> well that brings me back to chrome.  it's not included in my distribution so am I tempting fate here by branching out of my distribution and installing it?
[08:44] <tensorpudding> it's not just about outdated libraries, it's about ABI changes
[08:44] <zenon> Morning, I'm on ubuntu 11.10, installed w3af & saved over one of the defult scans properties & details, I uninstalled then reinstalled to fix, after shutdown its reverted back, how would I restore the app?
[08:44] <raatiniemi> anybody know of a good touchscreen calibration tool? :)
[08:44] <knoppies> goathouse774, yes, ubuntu based derivatives have a 'mass-update' scheme, but if a certain library or piece of software was abandoned 6 years ago it can be a pain to get it to work on the latest distribution. Not all linux uses a 'mass-update' schedule.
[08:45] <knoppies> goathouse774, with chrome not really, but I think that has something to do with the fact that google use some sort of ubuntu derivative inhouse (last I heard)
[08:45] <goathouse774> so it's more of a "oh this particular software is too old and wont work" than a "oh this particular software is too old and I just fried my computer by installing it"?
[08:45] <zenon> ah I'll just reinstall & save the profile again.
[08:45] <metaspike> gnomeradio is defaulting to /dev/video0 - when try to switch to /dev/radio0 - it crashes. anyideas? :p
[08:46] <stanman246> hi, i want to install the latest ubuntu and need to make a backup. Is it enough to just copy my /home/user and it's hidden files?
[08:46] <knoppies> goathouse774, most of the time, but sometimes it causes havoc with some config file which might 'fry' (in the software sense) your computer.
[08:46] <Myrtti> raatiniemi: xinput-calibrator
[08:47] <stanman246> can i then put back thunderbird's and firefox' profiles?
[08:47] <tensorpudding> it'd all be fixed if people statically-compiled everything
[08:47] <tensorpudding> maybe in the future that will actually happen
[08:47] <metaspike> stanman246, that would copy your user profile, documents and its settings. assuming nothing else has changed, this is fine.
[08:47] <knoppies> stanman246, yes, provided that you havn't saved anything outside of your HOME folder.
[08:49] <stanman246> thanks, so i would be really really safe if i'd clonezilla-ed the entire disk to a usb image AND manual copy my home dir (include hiddens).
[08:49] <Israfel> What's the default VNC servre with Ubuntu?
[08:49] <metaspike> stanman246, of course.
[08:49] <stanman246> the copy of the home dir is for easy recovering the profiles
[08:50] <raatiniemi> Myrtti, thanks, ive tried it and it seem to work but when swapping axes, the cursor starts to randomly jump to the side.
[08:50] <stanman246> thanks! will do and hope I'm running the latest ubuntu soon ;-)
[08:50] <knoppies> I am having issues with direct rendering. direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set). If I use "unset LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT" then I get direct rendering in that terminal, but not if I use wine. Does anybody know how to prevent LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT?
[08:51] <knoppies> oh, if I run it with sudo, then I get Direct rendering, so LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT is only set on my user.
[08:51] <opalepatrick> where is a good resource to find current lists re wi-fi hardware & compatibility. I see the ubuntu friendly one, but that is only related to complete systems.
[08:52] <metaspike> opalepatrick, the kernel source? :)
[08:53] <goathouse774> I've noticed during my short time with xubuntu that is actually pretty tough for my computer to handle, which surprises me because, in its prime with windows xp and virus free, it was somewhat faster.
[08:53] <metaspike> ireally, or www.linux-drivers.org/
[08:53] <Monkeypaws> Hi. I'm trying to run an executable elf32 binary in the current directoy. i run ./myprogram and i get command not found, even though its right there :x
[08:53] <nicknick> Hey guys. I have a question. I just installed ubuntu and I have installed jGRASP also. I would like it to quit popping up the dialog box which indicates that the bash script to launch it is executable and asks if I want to run it or view it etc. How can I make it where, just with this particular file, it always just executes without any dialog?
[08:54] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I just saved my terminal layout with the gnome-terminal --save-config=FILE command.  Is there any documentation that I can find to figure out how to run commands when those windows open?
[08:54] <metaspike> goathouse774, was that a suuport question or just another lame linux vs windows statement? v_v
[08:55] <opalepatrick> thanks metaspike - I have just had enough of the tp-link dongle I bought and lack of decent driver. My fault should have checked it first
[08:55] <metaspike> opalepatrick, ive had good success with wifi gear that uses the realtek chipsets eh,
[08:55] <goathouse774> well, I think it'd be natural to compare when switching...
[08:56] <nicknick> Anyone ? Anyone?
[08:56] <mateusz> siemka
[08:56] <nicknick> This is really starting to grind my gears that I have to answer the same question the same way everytime I want to run this script.
[08:56] <mateusz> hi
[08:56] <goathouse774> I'm just wondering if maybe I did something wrong, or should try lubuntu or defrag my harddrive or some such thing.
[08:56] <kripz> i want to give a friend a pc with ubuntu, i want to install it and then somehow still present the screen to select region, keyboard, username etc on first boot. how can i do this?
[08:56] <mateusz> Poland
[08:57] <metaspike> nicknick, right click it? look for autorun properties? i have no idea! i dont use gnome sorry.
[08:57] <goathouse774> don't get me wrong, I'm very excited to be up and running with linux
[08:57] <knoppies> goathouse774, unless your data is in an NTFS partition, I am not sure degraging is relevant. You can try install lxde on your current system, rather than installing lubuntu from scratch.
[08:58] <knoppies> defragging, sorry.
[08:58] <metaspike> kripz, you cant. but you can reconfigure those things with the standard tools, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, sudo adduser etc.
[08:58] <nicknick> metaspike: It's all good! I just thought there would probably be someone in here who had had the same issue and already figured it out
[08:59] <metaspike> nicknick, maybe if you opened a terminal, and made it executable. sudo chmod +x ./whatever - then it'll stop buggin you
[09:00] <goathouse774> I'll just give it some more time.
[09:01] <nicknick> metaspike I had to give it +x in order for it to be executable in the first place. I would think that there would be some way to repress that. probably through a command? I would search it on the net, but I can't think of a concise way to word a search for that
[09:06] <Ben64> goathouse774: you should always install stuff from the software center
[09:06] <goathouse774> Ben64 I just installed Chrome from the web...
[09:06] <Ben64> i know.
[09:06] <goathouse774> Is that bad?
[09:06] <Ben64> its not ideal
[09:07] <goathouse774> really?
[09:07] <doda-> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/InRelease  what does this mean ?, google search doesn't show anything valuable
[09:07] <goathouse774> should I uninstall it?  I like Chrome!
[09:07] <opalepatrick> cheers for that metaspike - researching now :-)
[09:07] <Ben64> goathouse774: you can get chrome from software center with a ppa
[09:07] <goathouse774> ppa?
[09:08] <Ben64> !ppa
[09:08] <goathouse774> so I should uninstall Chrome
[09:08] <Ben64> yeah, i would
[09:08] <doda-> i have fixed it temporally by disabling the independent repo, is it depreciated or what ?
[09:08] <Ben64> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/8 is google's ppa for chrome
[09:09] <goathouse774> ok.  btw, my visuals are displaying slightly too wide for my moniter; is there a natural setting for that?
[09:09] <Ben64> goathouse774: not sure what you mean by that
[09:10] <goathouse774> the left and right edges of my gui are running off chopped
[09:10] <pv73> greetings
[09:10] <knoppies> Ben64, do you understand overscan?
[09:10] <Ben64> goathouse774: you'd have to adjust your resolution to fit
[09:10] <pv73> I have a question to ask you all.
[09:10] <pv73>  can someone tell me if this is a SMP kernel? 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19?
[09:11] <Ben64> knoppies: kinda?
[09:12] <linux> 454
[09:15] <Israfel> Is there a better VNC server other than vino-server?
[09:16] <doda-> can anyone check is the independent repo workng ?
[09:16] <doda-> Israfel: if you need only cli check tightvnc
[09:17] <aceperry> I'm guessing that everyone else has probs updating their system
[09:17] <doda-> :D
[09:17] <doda-> lol
[09:18] <aceperry> anyone know what's going on with updates?
[09:18] <doda-> aceperry: what is the error that you get ?
[09:18] <goathouse774> how do you uninstall a program?
[09:19] <knoppies> goathouse774, synaptic can normally do that.
[09:19] <doda-> goathouse774: you search for it in software center
[09:19] <aceperry> doda: I get this: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/acroread/acroread_9.4.7-1oneiric1_amd64.deb
[09:19] <aceperry>   Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (91.189.88.33), connection timed out
[09:19] <goathouse774> wow.  there's no built-in uninstaller...
[09:19] <doda-> or synaptic, which one you prefer
[09:20] <Monkeypaws> Can anyone think of a reason i would get "-bash: ./jtvlc: No such file or directory" when i know jtvlc exists and is set executable in the current director?
[09:21] <llutz_> Monkeypaws: "file ./jtvlc" "uname -m"
[09:21] <doda-> goathouse774: how do you mean there is no built in uninstaller ?
[09:21] <Monkeypaws> llutz looks like there may be some trailing characters i cant see
[09:21] <doda-> aceperry: it shows that error on only one repo?
[09:22] <pv73> greetings.. Could some one help with enabling hyperthreading on a 64 bit linux kernel?
[09:22] <aceperry> doda: I tried setting to other repos, still no joy, is this a widespread problem now?
[09:22] <lori> ld someone tell me how to enable the flash player
[09:23] <ddddddddddd> help?
[09:23] <Monkeypaws> ldd says its not a dynamic executable
[09:23] <llutz_> pv73: grep CONFIG_X86_HT /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[09:23] <goathouse774> doda, my bad, synaptic was installed, but how do I uninstall chrome?
[09:24] <Guest37030> how do u enable flash player to play videos on you tube and facebook
[09:24] <Israfel> doda-, I have SSH for CLI. I just need VNC so I can log in the GUI on the server.
[09:24] <ddddddddddd> What is the best linux version for beginners? Mint or Ubuntu?
[09:24] <doda-> aceperry: can you run apt-get update and post the output to pastebin
[09:24] <aceperry> flash is included with chrome
[09:24] <goathouse774> How do separate out the components of chrome in order to uninstall them and know I'm uninstalling the right things?
[09:24] <pv73> llutz_:CONFIG_X86_HT=y
[09:25] <ddddddddddd> What is the best linux version for beginners? Mint or Ubuntu????
[09:25] <u890> ddddddd, I recommend Ubuntu
[09:25] <aceperry> doda: I'm in the middle of downloading packages on synaptic, will get back if/when it fails
[09:25] <doda-> goathouse774: well you can remove apps from the software center too, just search for the app that you like to install/uninstall
[09:25] <juzten> I use ubuntu
[09:25] <llutz_> pv73: so it's already enabled
[09:25] <u890> it is more widely used than Mint
[09:25] <ddddddddddd> u890 WHY?
[09:26] <ddddddddddd> HMMMM
[09:26] <Guest37030> how do i get my flash player to work
[09:26] <u890> if you hvae any questions then you'll get more replies from Ubuntu users
[09:26] <goathouse774> but chrome isn't in the software center.
[09:26] <Ben64> !flash | Guest37030
[09:26] <goathouse774> chromium is, right?
[09:26] <pv73> llutz_: If it is enabled, it should show up in the system monitor... correct?
[09:26] <aceperry> I heard Mint has all of the easy stuff installed already
[09:26] <u890> Ubuntu is very user friendly
[09:26] <llutz_> pv73: no idea
[09:26] <aceperry> You can find chrome browser from google
[09:26] <u890> ace .., so has Ubuntu
[09:27] <Guest37030> its installed beno it just wont play anything
[09:27] <Ben64> goathouse774: you should be able to uninstall chrome from the .deb package you used to install it
[09:27] <doda-> Israfel: well with ssh you can start whatever vnc servers you like, most are console line with no gui, vino on the other hand is integrated in gnome
[09:27] <goathouse774> I only see chromium when I search software center for "chrome."
[09:27] <goathouse774> oh the download?
[09:27] <aceperry> u890, it's been awhile, but I heard Mint had all of the codices that are used for playing all of the formats, without the nag messages
[09:27] <pv73> llutz_: I had seen 8 individual entries in the system monitor in my earlier install. I am stumped.
[09:27] <Guest37030> ben64ubottu it installed but will not play
[09:28] <llutz_> pv73: sry i don't know what systemmonitor is/shows/does.
[09:28] <aceperry> goat: just go to google for the latest stable/beta/dev versions of chrome
[09:28] <u890> ace: maybe, I don't know Mint so well, but in Ubuntu it's really easy to install them, even a child can do it
[09:29] <pv73> llutz_:Oh.
[09:29] <goathouse774> I was told I shouldn't download chrome from the web
[09:29] <juzten> Apt-get
[09:29] <doda-> goathouse774: chromium is the name of the entry in internet apps, right ?
[09:29] <Ben64> goathouse774: use this for chrome http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/8
[09:29] <aceperry> u890: I agree, ubuntu is easy, I've been told Mint is even easier, especially well suited for beginners, I don't use Mint though
[09:30] <doda-> if it is so then you have chromium installed
[09:30] <goathouse774> no it's "google chrome" in internet apps menu
[09:30] <The_Last_Templar> hey i have Ubuntu 9.10 and i can't install it on my computer??
[09:30] <overclucker> goathouse774: at least try chromium first. if you don't like it, you can switch.
[09:30] <aceperry> goat: best source for chrome browser is DIRECTLY from google
[09:30] <Ben64> aceperry: that isn't true
[09:30] <aceperry> ben: what isn't true?
[09:30] <Ben64> shouldn't download apps from websites
[09:31] <pv73> llutz_: htop shows only 4 processors.
[09:31] <u890> ace: another argument for Ubuntu is that it has more tutorials in the internet than any other linux distrbutions
[09:31] <doda-> aceperry: +1
[09:31] <doda-> Ben64: why not ?
[09:31] <pv73> llutz_: if ht was enabled, I think it should show 8 (4x2).
[09:31] <aceperry> ben, I think chrome from google is the way to go
[09:31] <Ben64> because ubuntu works much better with apt than manually installing things
[09:32] <pv73> llutz_: it shows 8 cpus in my win install :(
[09:32] <aceperry> ben: google's chrome browser is distributed as a deb file
[09:32] <doda-> chrome has its own repo
[09:32] <Ben64> right, but doesn't auto update and can conflict with things in the software center
[09:32] <doda-> that is constantly updated
[09:32] <doda-> lol
[09:32] <Ben64> i pasted the link to google's ppa
[09:32] <Ben64> which is the best way to get it
[09:32] <doda-> i just upgraded it today
[09:32] <aceperry> ben: it doesn't conflict with anything
[09:33] <Ben64> aceperry: it can
[09:33] <doda-> http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/
[09:33] <doda-> this is the repo
[09:33] <aceperry> ben: what does it conflict with?  I've never had any probs
[09:33] <Ben64> aceperry: can != is
[09:34] <pv73> llutz_: anyway, thanks for your help.
[09:34] <aceperry> ben: what?
[09:34] <Ben64> aceperry: "can conflict" is not the same as "does conflict"
[09:34] <aceperry> ben: that applies to all deb files, including ones from ubuntu
[09:35] <aceperry> so what's up with ubuntu repos?  At first it was failing, now it's slow as hell
[09:36] <satyanash> aceperry, they are localised to the country.
[09:36] <goathouse774> I can't seem to uninstall chrome even if I wanted to
[09:36] <satyanash> aceperry, I think.
[09:36] <goathouse774> The software center is stuck loading after I opened the chrome installer
[09:37] <aceperry> satyanash: there are repos in different countries, I only tried two, and they were slow
[09:37] <Ben64> goathouse774: you can't have two things accessing package stuff at the same time
[09:37] <goathouse774> chrome is closed...
[09:37] <heizmann> Hi, all. I'm searching to install manually a lucid lynx, bypassing chroot (under virtualbox). My reason is to understand "how it works" exactly. More specifically, I wish know how commands are invoked during a classical install, bypassing an install CD (like: an alternate ubuntu CD). Under other distros, we can find lots of tutorials about this topic, but I cannot find a clear tutorial on the web which explains clearly how to do. :)
[09:37] <heizmann> thanks for advance for some helps or links ^^'
[09:38] <heizmann> By starting point: a custom liveCD (launch from VertualBox :) )
[09:39] <Ben64> goathouse774: i mean software center and the chrome installer
[09:39] <goathouse774> when I open the installer the software center takes over automatically
[09:40] <goathouse774> anyway, I closed it and tried again and it worked
[09:40] <goathouse774> however, I only have the option to "reinstall".
[09:40] <Ben64> oh..
[09:40] <aceperry> goat: reinstall means that it's already installed
[09:41] <aceperry> goat: what are you trying to do?
[09:41] <goathouse774> I'm trying to uninstall it to be safe
[09:41] <Ben64> goathouse774: try to remove it from command line
[09:41] <aceperry> goat: then uninstall it, what's the prob?
[09:41] <goathouse774> I don't know command line at all yet
[09:41] <goathouse774> how do you uninstall programs in xubuntu
[09:41] <aceperry> goat: do you know how to uninstall with synaptic?
[09:42] <goathouse774> It's a little overwhelming
[09:42] <Ben64> goathouse774: open a terminal, and type "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i chrome"
[09:42] <aceperry> goat: what package manager are you using?  Synaptic?
[09:42] <goathouse774> yes
[09:44] <aceperry> goat: click on the package to highlight it, right click on the green box, and select Mark for removal, or mark for complete removal
[09:44] <goathouse774> is the package one thing or several entries?
[09:44] <Ben64> one
[09:45] <aceperry> goat: what package are you talking about, usually it's one line per package
[09:45] <goathouse774> there are like a thousand packages in there
[09:46] <aceperry> goat: yea, there's lots of packages.  If you want to remove one package, highlight one package and select remove (that one package). Does that make sense?
[09:46] <linocisco> can I get my username@ubuntu.com email account using ubuntu server version?
[09:46] <tensorpudding> uninstalling is easy for single packages
[09:47] <aBound> Hmm, I'm updating my Ubuntu machine and flash seems to either continuously download itself or it's going through an endless loop.
[09:47] <goathouse774> well yeah, I found it now, but in my defense when I searched for "chrome" the results centered on something pretty far away on the list so I had to scroll up
[09:48] <aceperry> goat: unless you have the official google repo as one of your sources, you won't find chrome in your list, only something like chromium
[09:48] <goathouse774> I downloaded it from google.com
[09:49] <goathouse774> and it showed up as chrome
[09:49] <aceperry> goat: what did you download?  and what is the problem?
[09:49] <Lint> goathouse774, see the package content to guess where the executable could be
[09:49] <goathouse774> I downloaded chrome like I always have in windows.  then I was informed that I shouldn't install programs from the web, so I want to delete it.
[09:50] <goathouse774> I found it.  It says chrome.
[09:50] <goathouse774> Should I mark it for removal or "complete" removal?
[09:50] <Ben64> complete
[09:50] <aceperry> goat: if you didn't install it, then you just delete it.  If it is the official chrome browser from google, then it is ok to install
[09:50] <goathouse774> I did install it
[09:51] <goathouse774> I downloaded it, installed it, and now I want to uninstall it.
[09:51] <aceperry> goat: complete removal will get rid of your bookmarks/history etc.  But the official google downloads are good.
[09:52] <aceperry> goat: uninstall with synaptic then, just like I said earlier
[09:53] <goathouse774> yes I will, but in my defense when I searched for chrome earlier like you said the results centered very far from chrome, which is why I was hung up there for a minute.
[09:53] <aceperry> goat:???
[09:53] <goathouse774> in synaptic, I did a search, because there are too many packages to scroll through...
[09:54] <goathouse774> and the search didn't really work right.  it's no big deal.
[09:54] <goathouse774> I found it now.
[09:54] <aceperry> goat: ok, just fyi, my opinion is that the best source for google's chrome on ubuntu/debian is from google itself, always the latest or best stable packages
[09:55] <Squarism> where can one find
[09:55] <goathouse774> that's a problem for me, because I'm a noob and I'm getting diametrically opposed instructions on this point
[09:56] <Ben64> goathouse774: seriously, its best to add google's repository so chrome shows up in software center, you get updates and everything integrates all nice and pretty
[09:56] <Squarism> where can one find debian packages for old mysql versions fur current ubuntu  (11.10 64bit) versions?
[09:56] <aceperry> goat: usually the official repos are best, and safest, but there are exceptions like google's chrome
[09:56] <orated> Hello! I'm getting error while update packages - http://imagebin.org/199194 . sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu.com/844148/. How can I fix it please?
[09:57] <goathouse774> alright guys, lol...
[09:58] <aceperry> orated: I was getting those errors too, I think there's a problem with the ubuntu repos
[09:58] <goathouse774> thanks for the help everyone.  good night.
[09:58] <aceperry> goodnight goat
[09:59] <linocisco> hi
[10:00] <aceperry> g'nite all
[10:01] <[eXception]> hi
[10:02] <[eXception]> where do I find the GUI for pulseaudio-qualizer ?
[10:06] <Evilkiss> Hi
[10:07] <normod> hey, I'm doing a amd64 PXE install and I get an error about a corrupted Package file
[10:07] <normod> I googled it and touching it makes the installer not complain
[10:07] <terminhell> it likes to be touched
[10:08] <normod> my question is, should I support a bug report?
[10:08] <terminhell> support away
[10:08] <ikonia> normod: what does touching do ?
[10:08] <ikonia> normod: how does it effect the file ?
[10:08] <ikonia> that is the question, is it putting permisssions/execute etc on it
[10:09] <ikonia> touching a file won't make it "non-corrupt"£
[10:09] <normod> no the installer bombs when it tries to ugzip Packages.gz wich is a zero length file
[10:09] <ikonia> normod: right, so touching that file won't change it's size
[10:10] <ikonia> normod: it won't fill it with the correct data
[10:10] <normod> yeah I know the file is fine but it shouldn't be there
[10:11] <ikonia> normod: what do you mean it shouldn't be there ?
[10:11] <normod> the netinstall has to restricted packages for amd64
[10:11] <normod> but there is a package file there anyway and it breaks the installer
[10:11] <ikonia> normod: sorry, could you explain that again please, I'm not following
[10:12] <normod> yes I'm not very good at this explining thing...
[10:13] <normod> I'll start over, the installer stops an complains that /restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz is corrupt
[10:13] <ikonia> normod: ok - first things first, where did you get this CD ?
[10:13] <normod> it's not, it unzips fine but is a zero lenght file and that's not something the installer likes
[10:13] <normod> cdimage.ubuntu.com, md5sums fine
[10:14] <guler> Dear All : Just installed W7 through virtual  box and need to setup shared folders ... And idea, tutorial ?
[10:14] <RawProduce> I just bought an Nvidia G210 and a couple of 1920x1080 monitors - nvidia-settings correctly detects one of the screens (the one plugged into VGA) but only detects resolutions of 640x480&320x240 for the one plugged into DVI
[10:14] <ikonia> normod: which CD are you using, the netboot ?
[10:14] <RawProduce> what's the deal?
[10:15] <ikonia> RawProduce: bad edid info from sloppy monitors ?
[10:15] <normod> ikonia: the amd64 netboot for oneiric
[10:15] <ikonia> normod: ok
[10:15] <RawProduce> ikonia: I tried getting past that by manually specifying the resolution in xorg.conf
[10:15] <RawProduce> think it's worth going for the OSS drivers instead?
[10:15] <ikonia> normod: so thats the mini.iso (just to confirm the file)
[10:15] <ikonia> RawProduce: not really
[10:16] <RawProduce> hm, what options do I have, in that case?
[10:16] <normod> ikonia: no the tar.gz, sorry
[10:16] <ikonia> RawProduce: configure it properly in the xorg.conf, try using xrand to set it, make sure you are using the propritary nvidia modules, and that they are being loaded
[10:16] <ikonia> normod: no problem, that's why I'm clarifying
[10:17] <RawProduce> ikonia: nvidia drivers don't support xrandr :/
[10:17] <ikonia> RawProduce: you can set a display mode with xrandr
[10:17] <ikonia> RawProduce: you can set a display mode with xrand
[10:17] <RawProduce> no, you can't with nvidia drivers
[10:17] <RawProduce> they don't provide the RandR extension for xorg
[10:18] <normod> ikonia: but the file I fixed in ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.is
[10:18] <ikonia> RawProduce: ok, I'll take your word on that
[10:18] <linocisco> which inventory software is cool for recording non-IT things? like toners, flash drives, camera??
[10:18] <riff> fuck
[10:19] <riff> sex
[10:19] <riff> vagine
[10:19] <jatt> sigh
[10:19] <venky10> Hi. When I downloaded VMWare player for linux, I got a "VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.i386.txt" file which is a 126M file? How do I go about installing VMPlayer now?
[10:19] <Tm_T> txt?
[10:19] <jatt> vi
[10:19] <Ben64> venky10: try "file VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.i386.txt" on the command line and tell us the result
[10:20] <ikonia> normod: ok - so I'm looking at that directory structure now, what file is zero length
[10:20] <venky10> yeah. I thought it was supposed to download .bundle, but it is .txt. Either way, I opened it through vi and it was a shell script for the top part of the file and then the bottom part was executable (vi prints junk)
[10:20] <jatt> !virtualbox
[10:21] <venky10> I tried "/bin/bash ./VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.i386.txt " and it doesn't do anything. I get the command prompt back
[10:21] <Ben64> venky10: try the command i said earlier
[10:21] <venky10> no option mate.I have to use vmware.
[10:21] <ikonia> venky10: what is in the text file
[10:21] <jatt> pastebin the first few lines of the txt file
[10:21] <normod> ikonia: /dists/oneric/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz unzips to zero lenght
[10:21] <jatt> and do
[10:21] <jatt> file ./VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.i386.txt
[10:22] <ikonia> normod: that file system is not in the tar file
[10:23] <venky10> Ben64: one sec
[10:23] <normod> ikonia: no I know, sorry! The iso with the file is ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso
[10:24] <normod> ikonia: the netboot works fine you got me confused
[10:24] <venky10> Ben64: "VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.i386.txt: a bash script text executable"
[10:25] <Walther> normod: try ./VMware-restofthefilename
[10:25] <Ben64> venky10: did you download the ubuntu version of vmware player
[10:26] <ikonia> normod: sorry, I've lost interest now,
[10:26] <auronandace> !vmware | venky10
[10:26] <venky10> http://pastebin.com/h5Z20NkQ
[10:26] <ndrobi> anyone know how to/ where to locate the 'roaming folder' for minecraft?
[10:27] <venky10> ikonia: see the pastebin
[10:28] <ikonia> venky10: so you need to make that executable and then run it
[10:28] <ikonia> venky10: to be honest, though if you are struggling at this level, I'd advise you against doing this
[10:29] <yana> hello #ubuntu
[10:29] <venky10> ikonia: It is executable. And I've done it many times before
[10:29] <yana> how to change sidebar position in gnome ?
[10:29] <venky10> I'm not sucha newb
[10:30] <imgrey> anybody alive ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> yes
[10:31] <venky10> ikonia: I've installed player many times. But never have I downloaded a .txt file from the VMware site
[10:31] <ikonia> venky10: so why are you having a problem ?
[10:31] <imgrey> dr_willis, what was the name of that cr%p that appear on left side of my screen, like in MacOS ?
[10:31] <imgrey> I need to move it to bottom of the screen
[10:31] <Walther> imgrey: unity?
[10:32] <venky10> ikonia: not sure man
[10:32] <imgrey> Walther, how to configure that ?
[10:32] <Walther> imgrey: wait 'til 12.04
[10:32] <ikonia> venky10: what is the actual problem you are having ?
[10:32] <Walther> imgrey: they haven't yet implemented all the configuration options
[10:32] <dr_willis> its the launcher. its not like macos
[10:32] <Walther> imgrey: unity is so new, they first made it working and are now addind configuration options, replacing the hardcoded stuff
[10:33] <venky10> ikonia: I downloaded the player and I got this huge text file (part shell script, part executeable). I can't run it with bash or anything. It doesn't run
[10:33] <ikonia> venky10: define "doesn't run"
[10:33] <dr_willis> there arw some move it down hacks mentioned at tge webupd8 blig site
[10:33] <Ben64> venky10: fairly sure it would run if you tried
[10:33] <venky10> ikonia: I get the prompt immediately back. doesn't print any echo stuff inside
[10:34] <RawProduce> solution to the nvidia drivers detecting the wrong resolution was to turn of DPMS for the malfunctioning monitor in xorg.conf, manually set the horizonal and vertical refresh rates and manually set the resolution
[10:34] <RawProduce> off*
[10:34] <ikonia> venky10: how are you running it ?
[10:34] <Ben64> RawProduce: wow, nice.
[10:34] <venky10> ikonia: tried many ways. /bin/sh ./VMware...      ./VMware...     /bin/bash   ./VMware ....
[10:35] <ikonia> venky10: then contact the vmware support resources and explain their script is faulty
[10:35] <RawProduce> I think the root issue was like the guy from before said - it was sending the wrong identifier, maybe because it's going through a VGA->DVI dongle
[10:35] <venky10> ikonia: I'd probably do that next. Just wanted to know if anyone else had seen it
[10:36] <Ben64> venky10: i think it needs to be run sudo
[10:36] <ikonia> no, vmware works fine for me
[10:36] <ikonia> that would be a "given" for someone who has done this many times
[10:36] <Feldegast> venky10 you have set it to excecutable right?
[10:37] <Feldegast> and yes it needs sudo
[10:37] <venky10> Ben64, Feldegast: I've tried sudo as well
[10:37] <venky10> And it is executable
[10:37] <Ben64> is it on a mount that is noexec
[10:37] <Feldegast> venky10 just covering the possible simple issues ;-)
[10:37] <llutz_> Ben64: that wouldn't affect scripts
[10:37] <Ben64> llutz: you sure?
[10:38] <llutz_> Ben64: man mount | less -p noexec
[10:40] <venky10> On another thought, I've seen VMware ship vmware-install.pl files before. Has it changed now to the bundle file?
[10:40] <Feldegast> venky10 yes, but they work the same way
[10:41] <Feldegast> same as the .sh files, not seen a .pl for vmware
[10:41] <dr_willis> sh foo.sh   perhaps
[10:41] <linocisco> I have canon LBP3050 Laster Black and white printer. I want to find deb driver for that
[10:41] <infernal_> Hello. Can anyone tell my why i get this error when i use gedit.
[10:41] <infernal_> (gedit:481): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.54AR9V': No such file or directory
[10:41] <Feldegast> sudo ./filename.bundle
[10:42] <Feldegast> infernal_ are you running it as root?
[10:43] <dr_willis> a warning sould still let the app run
[10:43] <Feldegast> infernal_ do you have plenty of free space?
[10:44] <infernal_> Feldegast, no
[10:45] <imgrey> walden, thank you
[10:46] <infernal_> Feldegast, even if i run it as root i get an error
[10:46] <infernal_> (gedit:2133): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: そのようなファイルやディレクトリはありません
[10:46] <Ben64> infernal_: pastebin the output of "df -h"
[10:46] <dr_willis> delete that file and let it remake it perhaps.
[10:47] <infernal_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% マウント位置
[10:47] <infernal_> /dev/sda6             184G   24G  151G  14% /
[10:47] <infernal_> udev                  1.9G  4.0K  1.9G   1% /dev
[10:47] <infernal_> tmpfs                 774M 1000K  773M   1% /run
[10:47] <infernal_> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[10:47] <FloodBot1> infernal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <infernal_> none                  1.9G  268K  1.9G   1% /run/shm
[10:47] <Ben64> : /
[10:48] <Feldegast> looks like a space issue to me....
[10:48] <dr_willis> hd is 14% full i saw
[10:48] <Ben64> 151GB free on /
[10:48] <Feldegast> the rest have <1mb
[10:49] <Feldegast> is that normal?
[10:49] <dr_willis> rest are special
[10:49] <Ben64> actually none have <1MB
[10:49] <imgrey> what is the alternative to unity in ubuntu ?
[10:49] <imgrey> taskbar
[10:49] <infernal_> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844184/
[10:49] <glebihan> !notunity | imgrey
[10:50] <Ben64> hmm
[10:50] <infernal_> Ben64, is that a problem?
[10:50] <dr_willis> imgrey:  install whatever yiu want. or use that fallback mode
[10:50] <Ben64> infernal_: no its fine, means something else is the problem
[10:50] <imgrey> glebihan, I have gnome-shell installed
[10:51] <Ben64> infernal_: can you run gedit fine without sudo or root or anything
[10:51] <nahkaku> what is this
[10:51] <airtonix> imgrey: and so what's your real question
[10:51] <dr_willis> nahkaku:  what is what?
[10:51] <infernal_> Ben64, Yes, but i cant save anything in that case
[10:52] <dr_willis> infernal_:  save what where?
[10:52] <FuZi0N> Hello
[10:52] <FuZi0N> Can someone please help me create a proxy server on ubuntu?
[10:53] <dr_willis> !proxy
[10:53] <glebihan> infernal_, does that error prevent gedit from working ?
[10:53] <dr_willis> wrond
[10:53] <imgrey> airtonix, how to get rid of unity and get taskbar, like in this picture: http://habrastorage.org/storage/habraeffect/b6/dd/b6dd9c2fe01154ce9b74939c99ea75dd.png
[10:53] <dr_willis> oops.
[10:53] <infernal_> dr_willis, gedit gives me error in terminal
[10:53] <FuZi0N> i want to create a proxy server
[10:53] <infernal_> glebihan, no it works fine, just a tad anoying
[10:53] <tenX> dr_willis: greetz
[10:53] <FuZi0N> im not configure one in a client
[10:54] <glebihan> infernal_, don't worry about it, it's just a warning indicating that the root user doesn't have a recently used documents history
[10:54] <airtonix> imgrey: tiny picture is tiny
[10:54] <llutz_> FuZi0N: http://www.squid-cache.org/Support/   read the docu then "sudo apt-get install squid" and configure it
[10:54] <FuZi0N> yes
[10:54] <dr_willis> infernal_: those were warnings, hiw are yiu running gedit
[10:54] <FuZi0N> i installed squid already
[10:54] <FuZi0N> is there any alternative?
[10:54] <llutz_> FuZi0N: then do the 1st part
[10:54] <infernal_> dr_willis, as a user
[10:55] <llutz_> FuZi0N: an alternative to read documentation? no
[10:55] <FuZi0N> no
[10:55] <dr_willis> imgrey:  loks like lxde to me
[10:55] <FuZi0N> an alternative to using squid
[10:55] <imgrey> airtonix, http://habrastorage.org/storage/habraeffect/e3/0b/e30b330cbe944cb1bbb6682dd2f92da4.png
[10:55] <infernal_> glebihan, OK thanks, good to know. So if i set u the log, will they go away?
[10:56] <overclucker> FuZi0N: privoxy
[10:56] <glebihan> infernal_, "set u the the log" ?
[10:56] <llutz_> FuZi0N: sure, apt-cache search <whatever>    but for all you have to learn how to configure it
[10:56] <glebihan> infernal_, oh, set up ?
[10:56] <dr_willis> gtk warnings are nit critical
[10:56] <infernal_> glebihan, Sorry. Set up the log.
[10:56] <infernal_> glebihan, Yes
[10:56] <airtonix> imgrey: you could try : http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-gnome2.html
[10:56] <glebihan> infernal_, I don't think that's possible (though I'm not sure)
[10:57] <infernal_> glebihan, well OK, i leave it for a free weekend :) Thanks again!
[10:57] <sundar> guys, i'd like to compile and install linux kernel to my 11.10. should i go for the linux-source package?
[10:57] <glebihan> infernal_, you're welcome
[10:57] <FuZi0N> privoxy isnt for a server is it?
[10:58] <dr_willis> !kernel
[10:58] <FuZi0N> i thought its used with tor...
[10:58] <dr_willis> i think tor recvomends an alternative to privoxy
[10:58] <shellcode28> anybody had trouble changing to a higher resolution?? in 11.10
[10:59] <overclucker> FuZi0N: I use it with polipo, with, and without tor.
[10:59] <sundar> thanks dr_willis
[10:59] <shellcode28> cant get to 1080 resolution on this upgrade
[11:01] <dr_willis> shellcode28: what videocard
[11:02] <shellcode28> Nvidia geoforce 210
[11:02] <emiliano_> join #release
[11:02] <dr_willis> you ran nvidia-settings ?
[11:02] <Ben64> emiliano_: i think you're missing a / there
[11:03] <LxKermit> has anyone noticed whether flash crashes more or less in chromium or firefox?
[11:03] <shellcode28> yea i ran the settings
[11:03] <Feldegast> LxKermit it crashes too often for me to count
[11:04] <LxKermit> yah, like anytime you try to open more than one tab with it definitely
[11:04] <Ben64> flash never crashes for me : /
[11:04] <Feldegast> in chrome i am running about 5 tabs with flash
[11:04] <FuZi0N> yeah... but isnt polipo a client?
[11:04] <dr_willis> rarely see it crash. but i dont flash a lot
[11:04] <LxKermit> Ben64: what distro and version are you using and browser?
[11:05] <dr_willis> !info polipo
[11:05] <Ben64> LxKermit: ubuntu 10.04, firefox 10 from mozilla-stable ppa, flash 64bit from adobe
[11:05] <LxKermit> i uninstalled chrome, but maybe ill install it and test it out with flash
[11:06] <LxKermit> hrm, same browswer and flash, different version of ubuntu tho, but eh, 11.10 here
[11:07] <m4k> How setup d-i instead of ubiquity into chroot
[11:07] <dr_willis> m4k:  what?
[11:08] <shellcode28> dont see the nivida driver cuz im on virtualbox
[11:08] <dr_willis> shellcode28:  you use the vbox guest addations
[11:08] <dr_willis> !vbox
[11:08] <m4k> How setup debian-installer instead of ubiquity into chroot. For create alternate cd
[11:09] <shellcode28> it showed virtualbox on as a driver so i installed it
[11:09] <shellcode28> do i have to remove it
[11:10] <dr_willis> you dont use the host machine drivers in vbox
[11:10] <shellcode28> oo i see it the Guest Addiations
[11:12] <shellcode28> i just clicked ity
[11:12] <shellcode28> i saw it
[11:12] <m4k> How setup debian-installer instead of ubiquity into chroot. For create alternate cd
[11:14] <shellcode28> Addtional drivers
[11:14] <m4k> How setup debian-installer instead of ubiquity into chroot. For create alternate cd
[11:14] <shellcode28> Oracle VM Virtualbox
[11:14] <FuZi0N> ...
[11:15] <gast2root> howto remove fast user switching in top bar?
[11:15] <m4k> How setup debian-installer instead of ubiquity into chroot. For create alternate cd
[11:22] <tewea> i have an external hard disck but i can't write to eat  just iam using  fat32 format and alradey i installed  ntfs-config but still i coudn't write to it  any body who can help me
[11:23] <terminhell> is it mounted?
[11:24] <computer_> Say if I want to add more then one ppa at a time do I type; a) sudo add-apt-repository ppa:"ppa1" && ppa:"ppa2" or do I have to type; b) sudo add-apt-repository ppa:"ppa1" &&  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:"ppa2" ?
[11:24] <terminhell> or just space them?
[11:25] <xsl> if you put && your executing a ppa:"ppa2" command
[11:25] <damo22> computer_, if you were thinking of saving the typing, youve already done more than that
[11:25] <xsl> && means... execute after the previous finishes
[11:26] <tewea> i have an external hard disck but i can't write to it  just iam using  fat32 format and alradey i installed  ntfs-config but still i coudn't write to it  any body who can help me
[11:26] <damo22> tewea, you dont need ntfs-anything for fat32
[11:27] <Feldegast> tewea did you connect it before or after the OS was booted?
[11:27] <Nicekiwi> .cache in my home directory is using up 86GB of space.. what can I do about that?
[11:27] <terminhell> tewea:  is it mounted, also dostools(something like that)
[11:27] <terminhell> Nicekiwi: delete it....
[11:28] <tewea> terminhell: dostools mean?
[11:28] <Nicekiwi> terminhell, its ok to do that?
[11:28] <tewea> Feldegast:yeah it is connected
[11:28] <terminhell> Nicekiwi: ya, its mostly temp stuff anyways
[11:28] <terminhell> Nicekiwi: maybe skim thru it first...but it shouldnt be an issue
[11:30] <terminhell> Nicekiwi: most of its going to be browser related anyways
[11:30] <Nicekiwi> terminhell, hmm k
[11:30] <tigero> Nicekiwi:
[11:31] <blackslik> Hello everyone ...i am back again , please how do i restore ubuntu to 2-3days back ?
[11:31] <tigero> helloo all
[11:31] <Natherul> hello all, is it possible to download and use the nvidia drivers from their webpage or should one refrain from using that and just use the ones in the ubuntu additional drivers program?
[11:31] <kame> Hi! How can I update xchat to 2.8.8 with apt-get?
[11:32] <terminhell> get the manufacturers drivers if possible
[11:32] <kame> I am a new linux user.
[11:32] <terminhell> kame sudo apt-get update xchat
[11:32] <tewea> Feldegast:it look like this http://dpaste.com/703934/
[11:32] <blackslik> Hello everyone ...i am back again , please how do i restore ubuntu to 2-3days back ?
[11:32] <tewea> terminhell: it look like this http://dpaste.com/703934/
[11:32] <kame> terminhell I thougt      sudo apt-get install update will do this
[11:33] <gpannwitz> blackslik: that depends on how you do your backups
[11:33] <Lint> kame, xchat is in universe, years may pass before someone will update it
[11:33] <parana> in which package "glib-genmarshal" command installed
[11:33] <scarleo> blackslik, just restore from your backup
[11:33] <kame> Lint i see
[11:33] <kame> :)
[11:33] <terminhell> never used xchat
[11:33] <Sentridoh> can someone help me. I'm receiving an error in the terminal when i try to log in as the root. "sudo: unable to resolve host"
[11:33] <terminhell> you dont log in as root using sudo
[11:34] <blackslik> i jst installed on 12 feb
[11:34] <Sentridoh> what about sudo -s?
[11:34] <parana> use "sudo su"
[11:34] <blackslik> my sources.list cant be updated
[11:34] <terminhell> its not exactly the same
[11:34] <blackslik> dont know why
[11:34] <parana> Need HeLP! in which package "glib-genmarshal" command installed
[11:34] <Sentridoh> let me see if su works
[11:34] <kame> terminhell Lint   I get an error. update don't accept arguments
[11:34] <terminhell> if you just need root previlages just use su or sudo -s
[11:35] <Sentridoh> still the same error.
[11:35] <Lint> kame it's 'install'
[11:35] <terminhell> is it a local install?
[11:35] <Sentridoh> this started happening when i changed my computer name
[11:35] <Nicekiwi> terminhell, its all from a single file: checkbox.log
[11:35] <scarleo> blackslik, what do you mean can't be updated? You want to edit it? use sudo
[11:35] <Sentridoh> what do you mean local? it's vlc movie player
[11:35] <Nicekiwi> terminhell, any ideas?
[11:36] <terminhell> OH your new user name isnt in the sudo'rs group
[11:36] <orated> Hello! I'm getting error while update packages - http://imagebin.org/199194 . sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu.com/844148/. How can I fix it please?
[11:36] <blackslik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844236/
[11:36] <kalimojo> hi. whenever my system updates i have to reinstall my wifi driver. cant get it to work this time :(
[11:36] <kame> Lint but I need the newest version.    sudo apt-get update xchat doesn't work
[11:36] <Sentridoh> what is sudo'rs group? and how do i fix it? i'm sorry i'm new when it comes to the terminal. just started using it a few weeks ago.
[11:36] <parana> in which package "glib-genmarshal" command installed
[11:36] <terminhell> Nicekiwi: *upgrade sorry
[11:36] <quiescens> mm, no, they changed the computer name, not their user name
[11:37] <scarleo> blackslik, what are you trying to do?
[11:37] <ikonia> kame: why do you "need" the newest version ?
[11:37] <Lint> kame 'install' will update it if it's in repos
[11:37] <kame> ikonia  somebody said 2.8.6 is buggy
[11:37] <Sentridoh> yea it use to be "dave@dave" but now it's "dave@holderman"
[11:37] <Nicekiwi> right..
[11:37] <blackslik> i am trying to update my sources.list
[11:37] <tewea> damo22:her is the output of
[11:37] <blackslik> becos i can run makefile command
[11:37] <tewea> damo22:her is the output of http://dpaste.com/703934/
[11:37] <terminhell> Sentridoh: check your resolve.conf in /etc
[11:37] <parana> all people has just problems here without knowing hot to solve them :)
[11:37] <scarleo> blackslik, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <Lint> kame look in debian for newer version
[11:37] <parana> how**
[11:38] <Sentridoh> okay
[11:38] <quiescens> oh good, someone said its buggy in an unspecified way
[11:38] <ikonia> kame: is it buggy for you ?
[11:38] <faryshta> Which is the best way to install the Android-SDK on ubuntu?
[11:38] <kame> Lint can you tell me how?
[11:38] <ikonia> kame: I'm saying it's "not buggy" does that make it "ok" to use now ?
[11:39] <kame> ikonia i dont want to show messages in xchat when somebody is connected. and i don't know how to switch this off.
[11:39] <Lint> kame check packages.ubuntu.com or packages.debian.org
[11:39] <AnyNickname> Hello
[11:39] <Sentridoh> terminhell, do you mind if i private message you?
[11:39] <terminhell> or just compile it from source...
[11:39] <ikonia> kame: ok - you don't need to upgrade for that
[11:39] <scarleo> faryshta, just follow the guide:  http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[11:39] <terminhell> Sentridoh: go for it
[11:40] <kame> Lint okay, thanks
[11:40] <kame> ikonia thanks
[11:40] <ikonia> kame: that's just a setting, someone in #xchat can tell you how to do that
[11:40] <ikonia> kame: don't download packages from packages.debian.org
[11:40] <ikonia> kame: unless you have a real reason to upgrade xchat - don't
[11:40] <faryshta> scarleo, thanks do you know if there is a way to install it from repos?
[11:40] <scarleo> faryshta, no
[11:40] <kame> ikonia can you tell me? the right-click doesn't work
[11:40] <ikonia> kame: you can disable join messages quite easy in the current version
[11:40] <knittl> hi. i have high user space cpu usage, but no process uses it (checking with top and ps)
[11:41] <knittl> what can be the cause/problem?
[11:41] <computer_> Hey there damo22 thanks for the reply, so which one works? Perhaps I should just try both and see what happens? I have just been trying to find out whether I need the command before each new ppa
[11:41] <kame> ikonia i have a german menu here :/
[11:41] <faryshta> scarleo, you don't know or there isn't a way to do it?
[11:41] <ikonia> knittl: pastebin a scren shot of top please.
[11:41] <scarleo> faryshta, there isn't
[11:41] <ikonia> kame: I don't know the german menu
[11:41] <faryshta> scarleo, thank you very much.
[11:41] <kame> ikonia and in the english?
[11:42] <ikonia> kame: I don't have xchat on this machine, someone in #xchat can tell you very easy
[11:42] <knittl> ikonia: just a sec
[11:42] <computer_> damo22, Oh and sorry for taking so long to reply I was out having a shmoke
[11:42] <ikonia> kame: /join #xchat and ask "how do I disable join/part messages in xchat" and they will tell you
[11:42] <kame> ikonia i thougt this here is #xchat. sorry
[11:43] <knittl> ikonia: http://fhlug.at/~dkf/top-cpu.png
[11:43] <scarleo> kame, just right click the channel name ->settings->hide join/part messages
[11:43] <ikonia> kame: this is #ubuntu
[11:44] <knittl> 40 % userspace (applet in gnome panel shows half full – 1 core at 100 % i guess), but processes only add up to ~10 %
[11:44] <ikonia> kame: look at cpufreq-applet and evince-thumbnail they are eating ram, I bet they are locking cpu, rather than using it
[11:44] <ikonia> oops
[11:44] <ikonia> knittl: look at cpufreq-applet and evince-thumbnail they are eating ram, I bet they are locking cpu, rather than using it
[11:45] <pigiman> hey guys. I did something trouble today, changed permission to the wrong library and now I can't use "sudo": sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be owned by uid 0
[11:45] <ikonia> knittl: they have a massive foot print, I suspect something has gone wrong with one of them, if possible, kill them
[11:45] <kalimojo> hi. whenever my system updates i have to reinstall my wifi driver. cant get it to work this time :(
[11:45] <pigiman> any ideas how to fix it ?
[11:45] <ikonia> pigiman: you'll need to change it from the recovery CD
[11:45] <knittl> ikonia: \o/
[11:45] <knittl> evince thumbnailer was the culprit
[11:45] <pigiman> ikonia: thanks man
[11:45] <ikonia> knittl: I bet it was looking CPU, rather than using it
[11:45] <knittl> but why is it not killed when I log out of X??
[11:46] <ikonia> knittl: top can be annoying in that situation
[11:46] <knittl> ikonia: anyway, thanks a lot!!!
[11:46] <ikonia> knittl: no problem
[11:46] <Natherul> hey again all, im trying to (while root) to use telinit 3 and then im just moved to the login screen of ubuntu (need telinit 3 for nvidia install), any idea why or how to bypass this?
[11:47] <maurizio> How could I see from terminal which video driver I've installed on my laptop?
[11:47] <blackslik> scarleo thanks
[11:47] <quiescens> Natherul: unless you have changed them at some point, most runlevels are the same by default in ubuntu
[11:48] <kalimojo> hi. whenever my system updates i have to reinstall my wifi driver. cant get it to work this time :(
[11:48] <Natherul> quiescens: ok because the nvidia installer wants runlevel 3 and warns me of this, and if i dont use it the preinstall script fails
[11:49] <Natherul> quiescens: not really sure if i should continue when the preinstall script fails :P
[11:50] <Kingsy> whcih vnc server is best to use that is running before a user is logged in?
[11:51] <quiescens> Natherul: it likely wants X stopped, you can either reboot and add "text" to your boot options as you start or just stop your displaymanager service (which one you have will depend on your specific release)
[11:51] <shellcode28> I have Ubuntu 11.10 on virtualbox i dont see the xorg.conf
[11:51] <shellcode28> file
[11:51] <Kingsy> screw it I will just try x11vnc
[11:52] <Natherul> quiescens: thats why i started in recovery mode as i did not know how to stop displaymanager temporarily :P im a newb at linux still :P though in recov it fails with preinstall script
[11:52] <Kingsy> or is vino better?
[11:52] <screwed> Can I login to ubuntu without running the .profile?
[11:52] <Kingsy> screw it vino it is
[11:53] <SegF4ult> Ehm.. why does Unity kill itself once something like OpenBox is installed?
[11:53] <screwed> Can I login to ubuntu without running the .profile? My .profile runs into an infinite loop?
[11:54] <quiescens> Natherul: all that said, i find it dubious that any recent installer is really tripping up over ubuntu's style of runlevels, are you doing anything that could be considered particularly uncommon
[11:55] <quiescens> Natherul: like an out of date release, or older drivers or anything
[11:55] <Natherul> quiescens: no idea, just following the instructions on the nvidia page, and its the latest drivers for x64 linux
[11:56] <SegF4ult> I have a slight snag with Ubuntu at the moment, I installed openbox just to check it out, but now my normal 'Ubuntu' session doesn't work as intended.. all I have is metacity and not the entirety of the unity shell anymore
[11:56] <Natherul> quiescens: they are not for ubuntu in particular, the drivers from the ubuntu hardware thingie is too old for my graphics card sadly, thats why im trying with the ones from the nvidia homepage
[11:57] <screwed> Can I login to ubuntu without running the .profile? My .profile runs into an infinite loop
[11:57] <quiescens> Natherul: well if you are sure you need the ones from their site and the ones ubuntu offers to install are inadequate you can try i guess, but i can't really say for sure if it will work or not, hardware support issues are hit and miss unless you find someone with the same hardware that has done it
[11:57] <john-dev> hello, i deleted a folder holding a mysql database, what's the ebst point to start to recover that folder? my hdd is ext3
[11:57] <viman> I want to configure Openbox to make Alt-Tab circle through all desktop windows. Can someone help me?
[11:58] <Natherul> quiescens: ok thanks anyway mate :P i need drivers that support my card to use gnome-shell wich I want...
[11:58] <Natherul> quiscens: i'll give it a try, if nothing i can just reinstall this .P
[12:00] <youtoo> each time start system i get error "networking not yet configured"
[12:02] <youtoo> i have edited /etc/network/interface
[12:02] <youtoo> not able to assigne static ipaddress
[12:03] <shellcode28> I have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on Virtualbox
[12:03] <shellcode28> but xorg.conf is missing
[12:04] <quiescens> and is that a problem?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> shellcode28: Ubuntu (and most current distributions) don't come with an xorg.conf by default.
[12:04] <jameslord> hi all
[12:04] <jameslord> what is the command to connect wifi ?
[12:04] <shellcode28> yes they do come default
[12:04] <mahaD> hello , i just made a mistake by pasting lines from my odbc.ini as root ; various comands like username=xxx hostname=xx password=xx got entered as command with no error output in the shell. what would nbe the effect of this on the system?
[12:04] <Dr_willis> shellcode28:  there is no xorg.conf by default
[12:04] <jameslord> i do not want to connect wifi using gui
[12:05] <shellcode28> i have ubuntu on a virtualbox
[12:05] <shellcode28> and is not showing up
[12:05] <Jordan_U> shellcode28: What is not showing up?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> 'not showing up' means what exactly?
[12:05] <snowrichard> mahad it would set environment variables with those names, not cause harm
[12:05] <jameslord> help
[12:05] <jameslord> help..
[12:05] <Dr_willis> and what release of ubuntu.
[12:05] <jameslord> help ...
[12:05] <shellcode28> THE xorg.conf
[12:05] <jameslord> i need help:(
[12:05] <shellcode28> on /etc/X11
[12:05] <Dr_willis> jameslord:  that tends to get you ignored spamming the channel.
[12:06] <Dr_willis> shellcode28:  X has auto configured for the most part fotr the last several releases.  /etc/X11/xorg.conf is often NOT needed. but is used if it exists.
[12:06] <jameslord> Dr_willis dude, don't do that :)
[12:07] <shellcode28> Well I'm trying to change the resolution
[12:07] <Jordan_U> shellcode28: You probably need to install Virtualbox guest additions.
[12:07] <shellcode28> i did
[12:07] <viman> shellcode: just go to settings -> monitor
[12:07] <Dr_willis> all ive ever had do with vbox is install  guest os in it. and enable the vbox guest addations.
[12:08] <youtoo> any one have fair idea on ubuntu network troubleshoot before i get banned
[12:08] <shellcode28> install
[12:08] <Dr_willis> but i havent used it in ages. I do recall some unity issues with it in 11.10
[12:08] <shellcode28> is already installed
[12:08] <mlc> youtoo: what is your problem
[12:08] <geirha> shellcode28: And you rebooted the guest after installation?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73589/higher-screen-resolution-for-virtualbox
[12:09] <shellcode28> i didn't reboot it said it was done
[12:09] <shellcode28> and exit the terminal
[12:09] <Dr_willis> you have to reboot the guest os.. for it to use the guest addations
[12:09] <youtoo> network is not working for me.. i know the issue
[12:10] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox/22745#22745
[12:10] <screwed> Can I login to ubuntu without running the .profile? My .profile runs into an infinite loop.
[12:10] <youtoo> i have edited /etc/network/interface but it is not applied
[12:10] <mlc> youtoo: cabel?
[12:11] <Dr_willis> try ctrl-c  after you login via console?  screwed - ive never  managed to break .profile that way. :)
[12:11] <Dr_willis> youtoo:  you restarted the networking service?
[12:11] <youtoo> nope its vmware...some how eth0 is not default
[12:12] <youtoo> Dr_willis: networking stop/waiting
[12:12] <jpds> youtoo: Did you clone the machine?
[12:12] <terminhell> do you have the guest user plugins?
[12:12] <youtoo> nope
[12:12] <Jordan_U> screwed: You can boot into recovery mode and fix your .profile.
[12:13] <Krised> Any idea why an item added to the programs menu (submenu "Other") in gnome classic isnt showing after i did a remastersys ? The new iso isnt having that item.
[12:13] <youtoo> it was working earlier after reboot.. it stop
[12:13] <screwed> Dr_willis: will i be able to connect using another computer?
[12:13] <jameslord> virtualbox is bullshit
[12:13] <mlc> youtoo: it is virtial maschine?
[12:13] <terminhell> the vm image will use a 'wired' connection, but your actual device is what matters
[12:14] <youtoo> yes
[12:14] <jameslord> not designed for human use:(
[12:14] <terminhell> vm just bridges the connections
[12:14] <jameslord> vbox is designed for beast:(
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> jameslord, tried qemu?
[12:14] <jameslord> oracle has tried its best to kill vbox:(
[12:14] <jameslord> i use vmware:)
[12:15] <mlc> youtoo: virtualbox, vmware... all gib shit
[12:15] <mlc> big
[12:15] <jatt> vbox for beast?
[12:15] <jatt> I use vbox
[12:15] <v5632> co mate za problem z vboxem...?
[12:15] <v5632> ja sem v celku spokojen
[12:15] <mlc> i wanst a fan from vbox or vmware
[12:15] <v5632> na to ze je zdarma vicemene
[12:15] <jameslord> jatt mainly the truth:) vbox is designed for beast:*(
[12:16] <youtoo> mlc:but they are so flexi
[12:16] <youtoo> mlc
[12:16] <youtoo> mlc:its luxary
[12:16] <mlc> youtoo: yes i know, easy to use
[12:17] <mlc> youtoo: can you open a terminal an send a ping ?
[12:17] <mlc> youtoo: ping google.de -I eth0
[12:17] <mlc> youtoo: you must insert the right interface
[12:18] <youtoo> mlc:eth0 is not geting ipaddress configured
[12:18] <mlc> youtoo: wrong command: ping google.com -I eth0
[12:18] <youtoo> when i ifconfig eth0 no ipaddress
[12:18] <mlc> youtoo: mom. shit copy and paste
[12:19] <mlc> youtoo: here is the right: ping -I eth1 google.de
[12:19] <ok_lackyu_as> how to check "wide" of system bus (in bit ) ?
[12:20] <mlc> ok_lackyu_as: you mean 32/64 bit?
[12:20] <ok_lackyu_as> 128/256, etc,etc - yes
[12:20] <youtoo> unknown host
[12:21] <mlc> youtoo: take a other host: google.com
[12:21] <mlc> youtoo: ah mom, if the network isnt running
[12:21] <angelete2> hi
[12:22] <angelete2> i have a strange behavior on my cron
[12:22] <mlc> youtoo: can you make a command to list the actve interfaces: ifconfig
[12:22] <angelete2> i launch some scripts in order to make daily backups
[12:23] <youtoo> networking stop/waiting
[12:23] <angelete2> to ensure backups to be right, i also run some test scripts on them, but they are behaving wrong
[12:23] <angelete2> i'm going to paste it in pastebin
[12:23] <mlc> youtoo: yea try this networking
[12:23] <youtoo> for command...service networking status
[12:23] <X0Rc0re> http://db.tt/172oFSpH
[12:24] <bazhang> X0Rc0re, why post that here
[12:24] <X0Rc0re> it was a mal functioned paste
[12:24] <mlc> networking: service networking start
[12:24] <angelete2> http://pastebin.com/2MNCi1sZ
[12:24] <mlc> youtoo: service networking start
[12:25] <glebihan> youtoo, networking isn't a daemon, so it's normal that it isn't running
[12:25] <mlc> youtoo: but we must know which network controller are availabl
[12:25] <angelete2> if i run this script as root (or any other user) it works nice, i get a file with lots of "filename - length"
[12:25] <angelete2> but when it's launched by cron, instead of filename, it's geting modification hour
[12:25] <angelete2> what can i help and why is it working bad? what am i doing wrong?
[12:26] <mlc> youtoo: can you not open the network manager
[12:27] <piliakis> hello guys. Is anyone running eve online on Ubuntu here?
[12:27] <mlc> youtoo: in most systems are a tray icon with the network manager
[12:27] <piliakis> I have a WINE question
[12:28] <bazhang> piliakis, check the appdb
[12:28] <youtoo> i am in run-level 3
[12:28] <bazhang> piliakis, then /join #winehq
[12:28] <bazhang> !appdb | piliakis
[12:28] <geirha> angelete2: find "$srcdir" -type f -printf "%s - %p\n"
[12:28] <shellcode28> i installed Virtualbox guest additions
[12:29] <shellcode28> and i went to the terminal and type xrandr
[12:29] <shellcode28> it shows a maxium of 3200x3200
[12:29] <geirha> angelete2: ls should never be used in scripts, it is only meant to be used interactively.
[12:29] <mlc> youtoo: have you general no networking in the vbox
[12:29] <piliakis> thanks bazhang
[12:30] <mcb_1> angelete2: At the end os the ls command put: 2>file.err It will redirect all erros messages to file.err. So you can know what went worng if your script. Problably, the script when run by cron is anuble to find the path to one of the commands......
[12:31] <blackslik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844285/   am getting this dont know what to do
[12:32] <ikonia> blackslik: you are using PPA
[12:32] <Ben64> blackslik: have you fixed your sources.list
[12:32] <blackslik> Ben64, yes i have
[12:32] <ikonia> Ben64: what was wrong with his sources.list ?
[12:32] <Ben64> ikonia: was dapper
[12:32] <ikonia> why was it dapper ?
[12:32] <Ben64> not sure what has happened the past few hours
[12:33] <Ben64> ikonia: no idea, he's on oneric
[12:33] <ikonia> that sort of thing doesn't just "happen" someone or something has changed it
[12:33] <geirha> mcb_1: That'll only redirect stderr of the last part of the pipeline.
[12:33] <blackslik> so what to do bosses?
[12:34] <mcb_1> geirha: I know, but with it he will be able to know what went worng with the script.
[12:34] <Guest82852> hello
[12:34] <ikonia> blackslik: why/how did your sources.list get changed to dapper ?
[12:34] <Guest82852> hello
[12:34] <LachlanH> Hey guys. Need a little help with screen res. Was all fine until I put a KVM between PC and Monitor. Now it's stuck at 640x480.
[12:35] <Guest82852> does any body know how to compile xbmc in eclipse?
[12:35] <blackslik> Ikonia , i kinda wanted to encrypt my chat with simp so there installs needs me to change sources.list
[12:35] <ikonia> blackslik: please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[12:36] <Ben64> LachlanH: you could take the kvm out, and generate a good xorg.conf with the monitor's info, so when the kvm is hooked up it can still remember the resolutions
[12:36] <LachlanH> Ben64: Did it. Have a good xorg.conf I believe. Here is it, along with Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/ZEHaahTA
[12:36] <blackslik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844290/
[12:37] <ikonia> blackslik: why have you set them to hardy ?
[12:37] <ikonia> blackslik: ben said you where using oneric not hardy
[12:37] <Ben64> LachlanH: on, then i'm not sure
[12:37] <Ben64> LachlanH: oh*
[12:37] <ikonia> Ben64: what ubuntu version are you using ?
[12:37] <ikonia> Ben64: sorry, not you
[12:38] <ikonia> blackslik: what version of ubuntu are you actually using ?
[12:38] <blackslik> 11.10
[12:38] <ikonia> blackslik: then why have you set your sources to hardy ?
[12:38] <blackslik> I wanted to change stuff to work with a programm i am installing didnt work
[12:39] <ikonia> blackslik: you can't just change the sources to other distros
[12:39] <blackslik> right now i need to install gstm-1.2 but i cant makefile or use ./configure
[12:39] <blackslik> hmmmm
[12:39] <blackslik> what to do boss to make it normal
[12:39] <ikonia> blackslik: sorry, your machine will be really messed up now
[12:39] <blackslik> ok
[12:39] <ikonia> blackslik: I'm not going to support your machine until you re-install
[12:39] <blackslik> ok
[12:39] <blackslik> i will
[12:41] <wli> I'm looking for debs of very recent kernel versions, like 3.2 or later, and am having trouble concocting the right google search strings to turn them up.
[12:41] <ikonia> wli: why are you looking for these debs ?
[12:41] <theadmin> wli: "kernel ppa". But, this channel offers no support for third-party kernels
[12:41] <Odding_pc> #ubuntu-nl
[12:43] <wli> theadmin: I'll need no further support than just URL's of where to go for them. Even that's just a timesaver vs. brewing up my own (which I've done, but have issues with).
[12:43] <bibic682> Hello all, I have recently installed 11.10. Why does my cpu get pegged at 100% usage every time I run a flash video online in firefox?
[12:43] <angelete2> geirha: thank you very much
[12:43] <ikonia> wli: why do you want them ?
[12:44] <wli> ikonia: remap_file_pages() is broken on a broad spectrum of 2.6.x kernels.
[12:44] <ikonia> wli: 11.10 uses a 3.X kernel
[12:44] <bibic682> should have mentioned... It always did that on every version I have ever installed
[12:44] <theadmin> wli: This offers the 3.2 kernel: https://launchpad.net/~francisbrwn9/+archive/kernels
[12:45] <Ben64> bibic682: what cpu? what is the output of "uname -m" ?
[12:45] <wli> theadmin: Also very helpful, thanks.
[12:45] <bibic682> athlon 64 single core  3200 mhz
[12:47] <bibic682> winxp uses 40 to 60 % during flash playback
[12:47] <Ben64> bibic682: what about the second part of what i asked? uname -m
[12:48] <Guest82852> has any one compiled xbmc in eclipse?
[12:48] <Guest82852> has any one compiled xbmc in eclipse?
[12:48] <Guest82852> has any one compiled xbmc in eclipse?
[12:48] <Guest82852> has any one compiled xbmc in eclipse?
[12:48] <FloodBot1> Guest82852: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <unixbeard> I'm missing any sort of menu (top bar or bottom) when using Gnome in Ubuntu 11.10.  I'm not using Unity.  Gnome Classic has a menu at the top, but I can't stand it because it won't autohide, even with some gnome-shell-extension.  Gnome-tweak-tool won't even show any extensions in that tab.
[12:48] <bibic682> i686
[12:49] <Ben64> bibic682: well that cpu isn't very powerful, and linux isn't the greatest at flash
[12:49] <evenHawk> hi can someone help me plz, i have troubles with my bandwith for a few days
[12:50] <wli> Given this I may be stuck figuring out the iwlwifi issue myself.
[12:50] <Youssef-k> hi
[12:51] <bibic682> Ben64: I was hoping by now this latest version would have solved the resource issue. My 800 mhz android plays flash without a hiccup
[12:52] <Ben64> bibic682: you *might* get better performance from 64 bit
[12:54] <bibic682> Ben64: my only problem with ubuntu is the flash issue
[12:54] <unixbeard> When I log into "Gnome" (not gnome classic, etc) in Ubuntu 11.10, there's no sort of top menu or bottom menu, it's just a desktop.  a 3d desktop, but just a desktop with no ability to launch anything.
[12:55] <Ben64> bibic682: i'm just saying that cpu is pretty old to expect it to perform very well. i have an amd64 3200+ sitting in a drawer
[12:55] <auronandace> unixbeard: can you take a screenshot?
[12:55] <tumppu> unixbeard: you have gnome3?
[12:55] <petsounds> unixbeard: there is a shell extension for hiding the top bar, i believe it's called autohidetopbar. install and make sure it is inside /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions folder
[12:55] <unixbeard> tumppu: I do, gnome-shell.
[12:55] <unixbeard> petsounds: I totally did.
[12:55] <tumppu> press windows-button or take cursor to top left corner
[12:55] <tumppu> should open the dash
[12:56] <unixbeard> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K 2012-02-15 17:19 autohidetopbar2@werewolves.us
[12:56] <unixbeard> tumppu: I tried that, but nothing happened.  I do have compiz and disabled unity (but I doubt that has anything to do with gnome3?)
[12:57] <bibic682> Ben64: Ubuntu used to brag about running on "old" machines. I used to run it on my athlon  xp2400 with 512 meg of sdram
[12:57] <unixbeard> I can try again and leave the mouse cursor up there longer and hold the windows key down.
[12:57] <Ben64> unixbeard: have you tried running "gnome-panel"
[12:57] <aguitel> how install java ?
[12:57] <Ben64> bibic682: but as you said, flash is your only problem. ubuntu doesn't control adobe
[12:58] <unixbeard> Ben64: I can't run anything under Gnome because there's no launcher, but I'll make a copy of terminal on the desktop and log in and try it again.
[12:58] <Ben64> unixbeard: you could ssh in from another device and open things
[12:58] <xsl> is it possible to install via apt-get a package from the next release ?
[12:59] <bazhang> xsl, dont mix release repositories
[12:59] <bazhang> !java > aguitel
[13:00] <aguitel> bazhang, ok but how i do with terminal ?
[13:00] <bazhang> aguitel, you read the link? or not
[13:01] <xsl> bazhang: its because i have a 10.04 box that needs the PSPP of precise pangolin
[13:01] <unixbeard> I logged in under Gnome (not Gnome classic).  I opened up terminal from the desktop and ran gnome-panel, and sure enough it did come up... so it's not running gnome-panel automatically?  Also it still won't autohide even with the extension in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions :\
[13:02] <bazhang> xsl, wait until april then do the one step upgrade to the next lts
[13:07] <ukatire> xsl: https://launchpad.net/~bojo42/+archive/pspp
[13:08] <Onkeltem> Video editing q: what are differencies between OpenShot & Pitivi?
[13:08] <janderson91z> could someone help me with an issue i'm having in xubuntu?
[13:08] <sindile> is libreoffice 3.5.0 going to be available for 11.10
[13:08] <janderson91z> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1926343
[13:09] <bazhang> sindile, you mean backported?
[13:09] <sindile> bazhang: yes
[13:10] <Thorne> Can anybody help me with Ndiswrapper?
[13:10] <bazhang> Thorne, with what chipset
[13:11] <Thorne> bcm4313
[13:11] <Thorne> I installed it
[13:11] <Thorne> blacklisted otherdrives
[13:12] <bazhang> Thorne, no need for ndiswrapper with the broadcom 43xx
[13:12] <pipx> Hi
[13:12] <pipx> A question:
[13:12] <Thorne> Nah. It is not stable at all.
[13:12] <Thorne> My wifi drops all the tie.
[13:12] <Thorne> time.
[13:12] <Thorne> I had Ndiswrapper installed. and it worked good.
[13:13] <Thorne> Now I had to reinstall the os
[13:13] <unixbeard> Okay, wow, I fixed the problem by adding gnome-panel to /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome.session, then I can winkey + alt + right-click on the menubar and select properties, then auto-hide.
[13:14] <unixbeard> Thank you.
[13:14] <uncle_rom> wtf? lol
[13:14] <pipx> In the shell I write (example) gedit, the GEdit opens, but I can to write again in the shell. How I can to write again in the shell (without close de gedit)?
[13:14] <pipx> In the shell I write (example) gedit, the GEdit opens, but I can to write again in the shell. How I can to write again in the shell (without close de gedit)?
[13:14] <ikonia> !wtf > uncle_rom
[13:14] <Thorne> ?
[13:15] <uncle_rom> just kick me next time you have a problem ikonia
[13:15] <uncle_rom> dont sand me PMs
[13:15] <xsl> ukatire: tyvm
[13:15] <uncle_rom> send*
[13:17] <Onkeltem> Hi
[13:18] <Onkeltem> Any news about screencasting software?
[13:18] <bazhang> Onkeltem, kazam is quite good
[13:19] <Onkeltem> bazhang: thats what I'm using now )
[13:19] <Onkeltem> bazhang: ufort, lacking gnome3 integration makes it less usable :( Not way to "press Pause" quickly for example
[13:20] <vageesh> Hi , can anyone guide me on how to install ubuntu 11.10 on oracle virtual box? I used to get errors that the iso file is unable to be mounted..
[13:21] <ChaosR> hello, my microphone is not recognized in pulseaudio (and therefore not working in skype). it does work however. I unmuted it in alsamixer and I can hear myself through it. anybody knows how to get the microphone into pa?
[13:21] <bazhang> Onkeltem, you could try eidete, but thats still under heavy development
[13:22] <wli> Looks like the francisbrwn9 packages have the same problem as my own. Thanks anyway, though.
[13:23] <compdoc> vageesh, maybe you have a bad downloaded iso file
[13:27] <thomas> hiho
[13:28] <thomas> how i can change the wm from gnome > fluxbox?
[13:28] <thomas>  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[13:28] <thomas> /usr/bin/xdm
[13:28] <Nom-> Hey guys, this is probably a little off topic.. anyone know how to open a stack of "screen" windows in say a bash for loop?
[13:28] <bazhang> thomas, install fluxbox, choose at login window
[13:28] <thomas> but he start after the login gnome desktop
[13:29] <vageesh> compdoc , i verified it
[13:29] <compdoc> vageesh, problems mounting the iso to install ubuntu does not indicate a problem with ubuntu
[13:34] <Yaaaaaa> why does garbage flash always freeze if more than once audio is playing ?
[13:34] <ikonia> Yaaaaaa: what is garbage flash ?
[13:34] <Yaaaaaa> just referring to the fact that flash sucks ;-)
[13:35] <ikonia> Yaaaaaa: ok, so your question is "Why does Flash freeze while I'm trying to play audio"
[13:35] <Yaaaaaa> like If I go to a webpage and it has 2 little flash ads both with audio, it will freeze
[13:35] <Yaaaaaa> chromium or firefox
[13:36] <wangdx> dsfdasf
[13:37] <meerkats> i have a problem with the update manager: since 2 weeks ago it automatically pops up, as its supossed to do, but then, automatically turns to grey, its blocked, and I can only force quit it, anu thoughts on this?
[13:37] <meerkats> any*
[13:38] <LukeNukem> hi, can someone help me in ripping music
[13:38] <Yaaaaaa> ikonia: no idea then
[13:39] <ikonia> Yaaaaaa: sorry, I wasn't looking at your problem, I was just explaining how you may want to ask a question with real info rather than your personal views like "garbage flash"
[13:39] <Yaaaaaa> I knew it was a bad idea to come here
[13:40] <LukeNukem> where else are you gonna get support for ubuntu opearting systems
[13:40] <LukeNukem> its the same people thats here on the forums too.
[13:40] <ikonia> LukeNukem: what's the issue ?
[13:40] <ikonia> LukeNukem: we do support the ubuntu operating system here
[13:40] <Yaaaaaa> its probably a problem with flash anyway not ubuntu.
[13:40] <Yaaaaaa> maybe pulseaudio but that kinda sucks too.
[13:40] <LukeNukem> ikonia, i got a shakira cD(:D), its all wav files..playing is a bit slow(slow drive) so i want rip these music to my hdd in mp3 format
[13:41] <LukeNukem> any software to do that
[13:41] <LukeNukem> also ikonia that support bit was for Yaaaaaa
[13:41] <ikonia> LukeNukem: then Yaaaaaa should ask a question clearly if he wants support,
[13:41] <Yaaaaaa> I did ask a question
[13:41] <ikonia> LukeNukem: there are tons of audio extracting software,
[13:41] <Yaaaaaa> you just took offense to my personal opinion
[13:41] <ikonia> Yaaaaaa: not at all, I think flash is terrible also
[13:41] <Yaaaaaa> LukeNukem: Sound Juicer comes to mine
[13:41] <Yaaaaaa> mind*
[13:42] <mun> hi
[13:42] <ikonia> Yaaaaaa: xripper is old by very simple and easy
[13:42] <ikonia> oops
[13:42] <ikonia> LukeNukem: xripper is old by very simple and easy
[13:42] <mun> does anyone know how to set compiz to be the default in gnome 3 fallback under 11.10?
[13:42] <LukeNukem> i agree flash is terrible
[13:42] <Yaaaaaa> you can rip to .flac which is sort-of like a wav (same quailty) but smaller files
[13:42] <ikonia> LukeNukem: also if you open the package manager and search for "ripping" or "ripper" you'll find a few more options
[13:42] <LukeNukem> but its also a great addition.
[13:42] <LukeNukem> they should avoid using it for websites(lot of exploits)
[13:42] <LukeNukem> and use html5 players.
[13:43] <ikonia> LukeNukem: does that answer your question ok ?
[13:43] <ikonia> LukeNukem: there is also info on https://help.ubuntu.com on how to do common tasks
[13:43] <LukeNukem> sound juicer and xripper not found but it leads me to another software called Audio CD Extractor
[13:43] <Lint> LukeNukem, html5 is no match for flash
[13:43] <ikonia> LukeNukem: I'm not aware of that product, but try it, see what you think
[13:44] <LukeNukem> ikonia, thanks for the help, i thought i would be ambushed by anti pirates.
[13:44] <ikonia> Lint: nor is it ontopic here
[13:44] <snooops> Hi im using ubuntu 11.10 64bit with an ATI AMD Radeon 5650 HD. I have 2 monitors (LCD) with a resulotion of full hd (1920 x 1080) but ubuntu only gives me a maximum of 1680x1050. how can i change this?
[13:44] <LukeNukem> Lint, come to offtopic
[13:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem: not if you own the CD - got to be realistic
[13:44] <pros977> I have a root account. I need to change the password without dealing with a prompt so I can write a script to do it. Any suggestions?
[13:44] <LukeNukem> ikonia, i own the CD :D
[13:44] <ikonia> pros977: you shouldn't be having a root account
[13:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem: then being realistic, you can rip it
[13:44] <LukeNukem> ok
[13:44] <pros977> Don't lecture me on not having root plz
[13:44] <Yaaaaaa> LukeNukem: check out .flac if you are going to rip alot of cd's alot better than MP3. and same quality as the cd.
[13:44] <ikonia> pros977: then don't ask basic questions
[13:45] <Kartagis> do you guys know if clementine rip a cd?
[13:45] <ikonia> no idea, try it
[13:45] <ikonia> research it
[13:45] <LukeNukem> Karmaon, brasero can rip cd
[13:46] <LukeNukem> to iso, if thats what your asking
[13:46] <tumppu> i understand rippig for taking songs from cd
[13:46] <snooops> any ideas for my resolution problem?
[13:46] <tumppu> not copyin whole disk
[13:46] <mert> Caspercom
[13:46] <tumppu> but rhytmbox/banshee can too do it
[13:46] <mert> * user_660 (~user@c-67-170-216-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.ne
[13:47] <Caspercom> mert: ?
[13:47] <LukeNukem> tumppu, whats your issue
[13:47] <Infernal> Hello. I'm trying to benchmark(reads/writes) my USB3 drive. Does anyone know why would i be getting an error: A partition table was detected - write benchmarking requires the disk to be completely empty
[13:47] <mert> turke'
[13:48] <snooops> Hi, im using ubuntu 11.10 64bit with an ATI AMD Radeon 5650 HD. I have 2 monitors (LCD) with a resulotion of full hd (1920 x 1080) but ubuntu only gives me a maximum of 1680x1050. how can i change this?
[13:48] <Infernal> I formated the flash drive. And it does not have any partitions in it.
[13:49] <ikonia> Infernal: how did you format it ?
[13:50] <mert> mailto:computer@CPE-121-214-175-103.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au
[13:51] <ikonia> mert: please stop that
[13:51] <mert> Infernal
[13:51] <Infernal> ikonia, Yes, has no partitions. Does not show up in Devices. Still seas cant be benchmarked.
[13:51] <ikonia> Infernal: how did you format it
[13:52] <Infernal> ikonia, Disk utility -> format drive
[13:52] <ikonia> Infernal: that will put a partition on it
[13:52] <Infernal> mert, yes?
[13:53] <sdsdsd> selam
[13:53] <sdsdsd> [TR]hi
[13:53] <Infernal> ikonia, how? I unmaunt drive -> Format Drive and it shows no partitions.
[13:54] <ikonia> Infernal: what is the device name of the device /
[13:54] <LukeNukem> i used sound juicer and it extracted the files
[13:54] <Infernal> ikonia, ADATA Classic C103
[13:54] <LukeNukem> but where are the files lol?
[13:55] <ikonia> Infernal: sorry, I meant /dev/sd$
[13:55] <LukeNukem> ikonia, can you help me out, idk where sound juicer extracted the files to
[13:56] <meerkats> i have a problem with the update manager: since 2 weeks ago it automatically pops up, as its supossed to do, but then, automatically turns to grey, its blocked, and I can only force quit it, any thoughts on this?
[13:56] <ikonia> LukeNukem: look in the preferences
[13:56] <Infernal> ikonia, I'm not sure how to find out
[13:56] <bazhang> meerkats, try  updating from the terminal, pastebin the output
[13:56] <ikonia> Infernal: open the application and look through the preference settings
[13:57] <Infernal> ikonia, Do you mean the Disk Utility application?
[13:58] <Infernal> ikonia, the mount point is at /media/New Volume
[13:58] <ikonia> Infernal: sorry, I was actually talking to someone else and got the questions confused, sorry about that
[13:58] <ikonia> Infernal: ok - so the fact that it's mounted means there is a partition
[13:58] <ikonia> Infernal: open a terminal and do "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the output
[13:58] <mlc> meerkats: you can make updates over synaptic too
[13:58] <Infernal> ikonia, just reated one, sorry
[13:59] <mlc> meerkats: you can install updates over synaptic too
[13:59] <Infernal> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844413/
[13:59] <Wouter[nl]> Hi there
[14:00] <ikonia> Infernal: ok - so as you can see /dev/sdb (your usb device) has a partition on it
[14:00] <Wouter[nl]> When my computer boots (1 os) i get a busybox. When i type 'exit' and press enter, my pc continues booting. This happened after i installed mdadm (linux software raid). I reinstalled and did it again, works till the point i install mdadm. How do i fix this ?
[14:01] <Infernal> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/844416/
[14:02] <mlc> Wouter[nl]: boot with install cd
[14:02] <Infernal> ikonia, I deleted it. I still get: A partition table was detected - write benchmarking requires the disk to be completely empty
[14:02] <ikonia> Infernal: looks better
[14:02] <ikonia> Infernal: what bench marking tool are you using ?
[14:03] <Wouter[nl]> mlc: And then ? The rest of the system works fine, i was hoping to not have to reinstall the os again.
[14:03] <Infernal> ikonia, The one found on ubuntu 11.10 "Disk utility"
[14:03] <ikonia> Infernal: that's not a bench marking utility is it ?
[14:04] <Infernal> ikonia, No. Its just a general purpose disk utility that comes packed with the OS.
[14:04] <ikonia> Infernal: ok, so I asked you what bench marking tool you are using
[14:04] <Infernal> ikonia, You think it might be a software issue?
[14:04] <mlc> Wouter[nl]: start a rescue shell and make this command: update-grub or update-grub2
[14:05] <Krised> Is it possible to have a script run ONCE ? that is.. after you install it it doesnt run next time you reboot ? Or how to put a icon on the desktop of the first user only
[14:05] <ikonia> Infernal: please answer the questions I'm asking - not what you think I'm asking
[14:05] <Infernal> ikonia, read/write
[14:05] <ikonia> Infernal: what benchmarking software are you using
[14:05] <mlc> Wouter[nl]: your problem is the bootmanager
[14:05] <ikonia> Infernal: read/write isn't a software
[14:05] <pixie79> hi all, I have just noticed a problem that my password policies in pam are not being used when a user run the 'passwd' command on the console and thus as user can make passwords that are much to easy -here is my pam setting http://www.pastie.org/3394484 do you have any ideas ?
[14:05] <ikonia> Infernal: what benchmarking software are you using
[14:05] <Infernal> ikonia, Sorry, give me a sec.
[14:06] <Infernal> ikonia, "Disk Utility"
[14:06] <ikonia> Infernal: that is NOT bench marking
[14:06] <Yaaaaaa> ikonia: it does benchmarking also
[14:06] <ikonia> Infernal: Infernal there is some soft of "info" tools in it
[14:06] <ikonia> Infernal: are you sure you are running the tool against /dev/sdb ?
[14:07] <pros977> ikonia: I didn't mean to sound snyde, but I didn't appreciate the 'don't ask simple questions' response. fyi
[14:07] <Infernal> ikonia, it has benchmarking capabilities
[14:07] <Infernal> ikonia, Yes, i selected the proper drive and using the benchmark functionality, thou it fails.
[14:07] <ikonia> pros977: if you know well enough how to enable a root account you should be able to do basic things, me informing you (who I have no idea of your abilities at this time) that the root account is locked is totally reasonable
[14:08] <ikonia> pros977: if you don't want to be told not to ask simple questions, then don't complain that someone is giving you simple warnings about not running the root account unlocked
[14:08] <Infernal> ikonia, Wait, why is of importance that its against /dev/sdb ?
[14:08] <ikonia> Infernal: because that is your usb disk
[14:08] <ikonia> Infernal: /dev/sda is your internal hard disk
[14:09] <Wargasm> how do I change my autostart options?
[14:10] <Wargasm> when I boot my netbook it keeps running Tor, without my firewall I wouldn't even know it
[14:10] <Infernal> ikonia, I am trying to benchmark my Flash Drive.
[14:10] <Krised> wargasm I belive you can set it in the settings if it starts at boot
[14:10] <ikonia> Infernal: I know this, you've told me
[14:12] <Wargasm> checking now
[14:12] <arand> Wargasm: I guess you'd use update-rc.d
[14:14] <Infernal> ikonia, I'm not sure whats the next step. I took a look at /dev/sda1-n if i try to open them up it seas There is no application installed for block device files.
[14:14] <Wargasm> arand: how do I use that?
[14:15] <Wargasm> arand: nm I got it, thanks
[14:15] <arand> Wargasm: Something like "sudo update-rc.d tor disable" read "man update-rc.d" for full usage
[14:15] <ikonia> Infernal: /dev/sda1 is your INTERNAL disk
[14:16] <ikonia> Infernal: I've told you /dev/sdb is your flash drive
[14:16] <Wargasm> arand: it was update-rc.d -f tor remove
[14:16] <Wargasm> is there a way to see whats starting up?
[14:17] <Infernal> ikonia, Sorry. found it.
[14:17] <arand> Wargasm: Well, you can either remove or disable it, I guess it's hard to start it post-boot if it's removed.
[14:19] <Wargasm> eh, its ok... I actually don't even know how it got there
[14:20] <Wargasm> I don't like things running unless I run them myself
[14:20] <Infernal> ikonia, what do i need to do with it?
[14:20] <arand> Wargasm: YOu could always check why using "aptitude why tor" (provided you have tor installed)
[14:21] <arand> Wargasm: And maybe even uninstall it if you don't need it..
[14:21] <Wargasm> arand: I have the stand alone tor browser installed
[14:22] <Wargasm> arand: tor seems to have been working without my knowledge for a while now
[14:22] <TioChico> helow
[14:22] <sdsdsd> (6)
[14:22] <TioChico> good morning
[14:22] <TioChico> everbudy
[14:23] <helo>  
[14:23] <bazhang> TioChico, ubuntu support question?
[14:23] <diverdude> How do i see the version of my apache?What do i install to use java in my browsers?
[14:23] <Redruver> Hi guys.
[14:24] <arand> RIght.
[14:24] <arand> Wargasm: So you will probably need to have the service running for that browser to work.
[14:24] <Redruver> Just a quick question; I've gotten bt5 running on my tablet, and the openjre isedtea plugin isn't working in firefox....
[14:24] <arand> Wargasm: Well, as long as nothing connects to the tor service it doesn't actually do stuff, I guess.
[14:25] <Redruver> As far as I know it's a ubuntu variant, any idea on what I shoud do?
[14:25] <bazhang> Redruver, ask in bt support
[14:25] <bazhang> !backtrack | Redruver
[14:25] <Redruver> Oh.
[14:25] <Redruver> Sweet, thanks.
[14:25] <TioChico> XD
[14:27] <Redruver> ...Uhm.
[14:27] <Redruver> Yeah, it says (404) cannot send in channel.
[14:27] <Redruver> I'm not on irc often, but it seems like they don't want any of my shit.
[14:27] <Wargasm> arand: only one way to know... I'm going to test it out
[14:27] <parana> guys i have a problem, when i start my computer i cant see devices connected to usb. Even though "modprobe g_ether" or "modprobe g_zero" or "modprobe usbserial" and more.. But after plug out and plug in usb device, i can see them.. What is problem?
[14:28] <Wargasm> arand: it explains an error I was getting with tor before... it kept saying tor was already running... but thats before I knew about the killall command
[14:29] <Justus> hi, I got the following setup in mind: local imap server on my laptop, thunderbird to access it, now I want to fetch mails automatically from several pop3 accounts, any tips on what server would be suited best and possible howtos?
[14:31] <Wargasm> arand: it works fine, so it looks like this was a different standalone process
[14:32] <dvhh> Justus : something like this ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/central-home-mail-server-fetching-pop3-delivering-via-imap-with-linux-203458/
[14:33] <Wargasm> arand: thanks for the help
[14:33] <Guest232> sup
[14:34] <Justus> dvhh: Exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much :)
[14:34] <dvhh> Justus : np , google pretty much gave the answer ;)
[14:35] <Justus> dvhh: I had difficulty because I couldn't get my search parameters right ^^
[14:35] <Justus> maybe I think too complicated ^^
[14:35] <ikonia> Infernal: what do you mean, what do you need to do with it ?
[14:36] <bazhang> Carmivore, hi
[14:37] <mikeman76> hey, xubuntu noob here, I have a ati driver problem. I have a acer netbook (aspire one) that has mobility HD4200. The propietory drivers wont install and I am stuck at 1024x600 and I need native res on my tv. Is there an easy fix? like an updated deb package?
[14:37] <Infernal> ikonia, I bought it 3 days ago. I want to do a read/write benchmark so i can see if its faulty. It reads from 40-80, but if i write to it starts at 80 and by the end of the file transfers its at 5mb/s.
[14:38] <mikeman76> sorry the native res is 1920x1080 and its hooked through hdmi
[14:38] <ikonia> Infernal: saying the same thing over and over isn't helping
[14:38] <ikonia> Infernal: I %100 understand you want to bench mark the disk, I fully understand that
[14:40] <Infernal> ikonia, Well thats it. The native app is not cutting it. I found way of benchmarking via terminal. dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test.data bs=1k count=128k
[14:40] <kalimojo> hi. whenever my system updates i have to reinstall my wifi driver. cant get it to work this time :(
[14:40] <ikonia> Infernal: that isn't testing it !!!!!
[14:40] <ikonia> Infernal: /tmp is your INTERNAL DISK !!
[14:41] <ikonia> Infernal: how hard is this to grasp, you need to run the disk utility tool against the device /dev/sdb
[14:41] <DinoMuffin> do not run dd on /dev/sdb
[14:42] <DinoMuffin> if anything else
[14:42] <kalimojo> ikonia : what is the disk utility tool ?
[14:42] <serega_by> Hi all
[14:42] <Infernal> ikonia, It seems it's working both ways. I told you before. I done it. And it gives me the error i pasted before.
[14:43] <OerHeks> i do readtest with "sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb"
[14:43] <quiescens> mm, dd to /tmp would give me some fun numbers i expect
[14:43] <bazhang> !give me a test
[14:43] <ikonia> Infernal: /tmp is NOT your usb flash disk
[14:43] <ikonia> Infernal: that test is doing nothing
[14:43] <serega_by> Why  bluetooth motorola does not work in ubuntu ?
[14:44] <ikonia> Infernal: you are running that test against your internal disk
[14:44] <Infernal> ikonia, I understood that. I didnt understand the terminal command, true. But if you are talking about "Disk Utility" when you say you need to run it against /dev/sdb, i have.
[14:45] <serega_by> I have Notebook HP pavillion with built-in bluetooth
[14:45] <Infernal> ikonia, Sorry my punctuation was a mess there.
[14:46] <ikonia> Infernal: don't worry about punctuation
[14:46]  * quiescens blinks
[14:46] <boson> Hi there...i'm pretty much new to ubuntu 11.10. installed it 3 days ago, using all of my HDD since there were no important files or anything left. now i also want to reinstall windows 7 as a dualboot system but unfortunately i cant create a second partition with "gparted" or "KDE partitionmanager". gparted tells me i cant unmount my HDD and KDE tells me i dont have root-rights. didn't find any information in the forums/wiki. somebody here
[14:46] <boson>  that can help me ?
[14:47] <Lint> boson, use livecd
[14:47] <bazhang> boson, booted from livecd?
[14:47] <Wargasm> crap, didn't work
[14:47] <bazhang> boson, or are you trying to do this with a mounted filesystem
[14:47] <boson> yea i read that...but...seriously i dont have a cd that i can burn knoppix on
[14:48] <boson> well i want to unmount it
[14:48] <Logos01> Anyone here familiar with how CentrifyDC affects /var/log/lastlog?
[14:48] <Lint> boson, and ubuntu cd?
[14:48] <boson> cant i just create a "livecd"-usb ?
[14:48] <bazhang> Logos01, installed from where
[14:48] <Logos01> I'm having an issue with it claiming it's 407GB in length (and df -h / 'reading' that.)
[14:48] <boson> because i have the ubuntu bootable usbstick
[14:48] <Logos01> bazhang: Ubuntu repo.
[14:48] <bibic682> went from 11.10 to 10.10.....comfort zone
[14:49] <Logos01> Ubuntu 11.10 amd64
[14:49] <bazhang> Logos01, which repo
[14:51] <Logos01> bazhang: Either universe or multiverse. Whichever it lives in. I forget which.
[14:51] <bazhang> !info centrifydc
[14:51] <kpas_> boson, Have thought about installing Win7 first then installing U
[14:51] <boson> i thought about that....but i think that would be a bit unprofessional :)
[14:51] <sskalnik> can anyone look at a makefile and tell me where I borked it up? I get a good compile for "all", but not if I just use "modules" - even though the latter is called by the former
[14:51] <Lint> boson, and when you boot from usb stick...
[14:52] <kpas_> boson, why would that be
[14:52] <Logos01> ii  centrifydc                 4.4.3-464-0ubuntu0         Centrify Express
[14:52] <Logos01> bazhang: It's an ubuntu package.
[14:52] <Logos01> In 11.10.
[14:52] <Logos01> So try that again.
[14:52] <carpediembaby> hi. i am trying to set proxy settings for apt and following this link: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html but it doesn't seem to work
[14:52] <carpediembaby> can someone tell me an alternate or how to fix this ?
[14:53] <rabbi11> Guys, I got ubuntu 10.04 live cd, how can i restore or reconfig my gnome, xorg, and nvidia drivers ?
[14:53] <dvhh> boson : http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livehd.php
[14:53] <Logos01> carpediembaby: As a work-around, you can use the "http_proxy" environment variable when running apt via CLI.
[14:53] <boson> well i guess that would be an easy way but since i already have ubuntu...i thought it cant be that hard to make anoter parition
[14:53] <bazhang> Logos01, its in partner repo
[14:53] <Logos01> carpediembaby: I.e.; "export http_proxy=http://user:pass@url"
[14:54] <boson> ah thx dvhh
[14:54] <kpas_> boson, yeah I hear ya - it was just a thought
[14:54] <Simon1245> Hey guys, you know Ubuntu TV, is it possible to get it on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:54] <rabbi11> Guys, I got ubuntu 10.04 live cd, how can i restore or reconfig my gnome, xorg, and nvidia drivers ?
[14:54] <Monster> hello?
[14:54] <Lint> Simon1245, ubuntutv is a vaporware
[14:54] <dvhh> boson : I knew the solution existed, already done it before
[14:54] <bazhang> Simon1245, its not a released product, and for tvs only, so no
[14:54] <carpediembaby> Logos01: let me try it .. i type it at the commandline just like that?
[14:54] <Logos01> bazhang: That's nice. My question still stands, however: /var/log/lastlog is claiming it is 407GB and df -h / recognizes this (as does ls -lh)
[14:55] <bazhang> Lint thats false
[14:55] <Logos01> carpediembaby: Well, you want to replace the user:pass@url with the correct info for your situation, but yes.
[14:55] <Simon1245> bazhang, Lint  Oh so that means you can't have ubuntu TV on a laptop?
[14:55] <boson> but anyways, why cant i unmount my filesystem ?
[14:55] <bazhang> Simon1245, correct
[14:55] <Logos01> boson: Because it's in use?
[14:55] <Simon1245> bazhang, Ah ok, I thought it was gonna be for laptops so you could watch TV and shit directly from it, would be awesome if that was possible :D
[14:56] <carpediembaby> Logos01: of course. but it is global or just for that terminal session?
[14:56] <boson> yes sure but....i didnt really get what that mounting is all about
[14:56] <Lint> boson, why would you ever have your hd mounted if you booted from usb stick?
[14:56] <bazhang> Simon1245, www.ubuntu.com/tv
[14:56] <boson> i didnt lint, that was just a first step
[14:56] <dvhh> boson: you can but not with everything running
[14:56] <ejv> !language | Simon1245
[14:56] <Simon1245> bazhang, checking it now :) Thanks
[14:56] <Logos01> carpediembaby: The "export" command only applies to the shell you are in, and any child processes of that shell.
[14:57] <carpediembaby> Logos01: i keep getting 404
[14:57] <Simon1245> ejv, My bad used to say "shit" in like every sentence whenever I forget a word lol, I'll try to watch what I say :)
[14:57] <Logos01> ... this channel really needs to grow up about the language thing. It's a serious black mark agains the channel.
[14:57] <boson> my windows 7 (and pretty much everything else of my pc crashed a couple of days ago. so i used ubuntu via usb to safe my files on an external hdd. then i installed ubuntu on my hdd.
[14:57] <Monster> should i install drivers if everything works?
[14:57] <Logos01> Monster: No.
[14:57] <Logos01> That's in the kernel.
[14:57] <Logos01> Do not screw with the kernel.
[14:57] <Monster> ok
[14:57] <Logos01> carpediembaby: cut-and-paste it into pastebin.org.
[14:57] <Monster> how do i get that icon to disapear
[14:58] <Logos01> Monster: "Additional Drivers available" you mean?
[14:58] <Lint> boson, now boot from whatever media you installed ubuntu
[14:58] <rabbi11> Guys, I got ubuntu 10.04 live cd, how can i restore or reconfig my gnome, xorg, and nvidia drivers ?
[14:58] <Lint> *from
[14:58] <boson> jup
[14:58] <boson> cya soon :)
[14:58] <dvhh> Simon1245: should be already possible if you've got a TV tuner that work with linux on your laptop
[14:58] <Monster> yes additional drivers
[14:59] <Monster> for my wifi and video card
[14:59] <Logos01> Anyone familiar with how centrifydc affects /var/log/lastlog? df -h / is claiming that I'm using 415GB when I've only got 28GB used, and lastlog is (sparse) at 408GB according to ls -lh.
[14:59] <Simon1245> dvhh, Ah, I don't have that, I thought it would be possible to get it directly from the internet or something like that :D
[14:59] <Monster> i installed them before but then ubuntu would freeze and i had to reinstall it
[14:59] <Logos01> Monster: Those are okay to install. It's just a thing to let you *choose* if you want to use closed-source stuff.
[14:59] <Simon1245> But how are you supposed to get Ubuntu TV then? You gotta buy it from their site or something? Or they gonna sell it in the shops or how will it work?
[14:59] <Monster> ahh ok
[14:59] <mlc> rabbi11: save your home /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:00] <Logos01> Open up the dialogue; it should have an option to not do it.
[15:00] <Monster> thanks logos
[15:00] <mneptok> Logos01: AFAIK Centrify is available from the partner and third-party repos. not main Ubuntu repos.
[15:00] <dvhh> Simon1245 : so you want a pretty interface for streaming ?
[15:00] <Logos01> mneptok: Yes, and I have it installed.
[15:00] <Monster> does anyone on here know how to use aircrack?
[15:00] <Logos01> That's why I'm asking here.
[15:00] <Simon1245> dvhh, What do you mean?
[15:00] <Hamed> hello, i tried 10 times to make open as administrator shortcut in right click menu  but i couldn't i want easy way to make chmod to files and this way is the easiest for me
[15:00] <rabbi11> mlc: i can't find it :(
[15:00] <mikeman76> can someone please help with my ati mobility driver problem. I have HD4200 and Jockey will not install driver, or post driver.... im lost
[15:00] <mneptok> Logos01: if you think Centrify is filling log space, try asking in Centrify-specific venues about such stuff (e.g. dialing down verbosity).
[15:01] <Logos01> mneptok: It's not.
[15:01] <Logos01> The file is actually 4KB in size.
[15:01] <Simon1245> dvhh, I was hoping that this thing could be something like "Apple TV" but which would work directly from the computer where you could save all your images and shit and view them directly from your computer and see them on the TV or something like that wher eyou also could watch TV and youtube videos and all that
[15:01] <Logos01> However, it is a sparsefile and because of how CentrifyDC assigns UIDs it is reporting itself as 407GB in size.
[15:01] <Logos01> And df -h / is 'honoring' that.
[15:01] <mneptok> Logos01: so unmount what you have to to run an fsck
[15:01] <Logos01> mneptok: That would not help.
[15:01] <Logos01> Could not help.
[15:01] <magnum54> Looking for some suggestions on recov ering lost files via software program. I am not having luck with /scalpel , foremost
[15:02] <dvhh> Simon1245 : how about xbmc ?
[15:02] <rabbi11> mlc: it's not there in the folder
[15:02] <mneptok> Logos01: if you say so. good luck to you.
[15:02] <Logos01> mneptok: The file is not 'damaged' or 'mangled'.
[15:02] <Simon1245> dvhh, What's that?
[15:02] <Logos01> It is -- and *should* be -- a sparsefile.
[15:02] <mneptok> Logos01: that's not what fsck checks.
[15:02] <ejv> Again, watch your language Simon1245, thx.
[15:03] <Logos01> mneptok: Then what would its effect be in this case?
[15:03] <Simon1245> ejv, sorry once again, I'll try to be more careful when typing.
[15:03] <rabbi11> i am in the live cd Desktop, can i install the nvidia driver from here and can i solve the problem in the main ubuntu ?
[15:03] <dvhh> Simon1245 : http://xbmc.org/ mostly what you described
[15:03] <mneptok> Logos01: checking allocation blocks to find allocated space that has been marked such in error.
[15:03] <ejv> :)
[15:03] <Logos01> mneptok: There's no misallocated space.
[15:04] <arand_> magnum54: photorec is another alternative.
[15:04] <mneptok> Logos01: right you are if you say so. i would run an fsck on the filesystem before anything else.
[15:04] <magnum54> thanks arand, I have used it. Have to go now
[15:04] <Logos01> Let's go ahead and say I've done that.
[15:04] <Logos01> What now?
[15:04] <eagles0513875|||> hey guys i have a more lighter weight DE im setting up using compiz and the cairo dock
[15:05] <mneptok> Logos01: i go to get coffee and stop wasting my time.
[15:05] <eagles0513875|||> for some reason though my network doesnt automatically connect to wifi after loggin gin any ideas as to my issue
[15:05] <mlc> rabbi11: no that is not posible, you can start a rescue shell and install packages via aptitude
[15:05] <Logos01> mneptok: Indeed, since you clearly don't want to understand the actual issue at work here.
[15:05] <mikeman76> hmmm linux mint it is I guess
[15:05] <Simon1245> dvhh, Do you know how I can set this up?
[15:06] <Monster> i've tried for about a week and about 5 different dirstros of linux and finally i got natty to work on my net book
[15:06] <Logos01> Anyone at all? CentrifyDC is causing my /var/log/lastlog to report (sparsefile) as 407GB, and `df` is "honoring" this. Anyone familiar with this?
[15:06] <mneptok> Logos01: i do not have this problem. most users do not. you yourself are blaming Centrify. which is not provided by Ubuntu developers. if *you* want to understand the issue, try following advice, or if the advice given does not suit you, go ask Centrify. it's their product that is seemingly failing.
[15:07] <dvhh> Simon1245 : there are some debian package I think
[15:07] <Logos01> mneptok: It's an Ubuntu-branded package on an Ubuntu system. I was hoping that someone in here would be competent enough to handle edge case situations.
[15:07] <dvhh> Simon1245 : http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux#Ubuntu
[15:07] <Logos01> If you are not qualified, please stop wasting my time.
[15:08] <Simon1245> dvhh, I'm using ubuntu atm, btw, what do I need for thsi to work? An apple TV or just a TV or anything else?
[15:08] <mneptok> Logos01: it's no more "Ubuntu-branded" than a muffler that says "Fits Chevy" on the box is "Chevy-branded"
[15:08] <dvhh> Simon1245 : http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu,_a_Step-by-Step_Guide
[15:08] <Logos01>  "
[15:08] <Logos01> " /ignore mneptok" it is.
[15:08] <epaphus> Hello, i just installed Ubuntu 11.10... but it looks very different from 11.04.. can I roll back to the classical interface of gnome?
[15:08] <mkb73> ciao a tutti
[15:08] <mneptok> Logos01: bad idea.
[15:09] <Hamed> hello, i tried 10 times to make open as administrator shortcut in right click menu  but i couldn't i want easy way to make chmod to files and this way is the easiest for me i installed nautilus gksu
[15:09] <Simeon> @epaphus: yes you can if you have it installed
[15:09] <etheretic> anyone running wmspaceweather had an update the last 3-4 days?
[15:09] <dvhh> Simon1245 : linux/any distro or windows or apple whatever
[15:09] <epaphus> Simeon, how?
[15:09] <Logos01> Anyone willing to be helpful to my circumstance? CentrifyDC is causing my /var/log/lastlog file to report (sparsely) as 407GB in size; and `df` is 'honoring' this. Anyone familiar with this situation?
[15:09] <Simon1245> dvhh, Will this connect to the TV aswell?
[15:09] <Simeon> on login.its listed in your login screen. i think its a little wheel you click on.
[15:09] <Wouter_> When my computer boots (1 os), i get a busybox (intrinfs) and i have to type 'exit' before my computer continues to boot. (after that it works fine). this happened after i installed mdadm (software linux raid). I tried reinstalling ubuntu but every time when i install mdadm i get the busy box again and i have to type exit before it continues. I tried to go to the commandline (in ubuntu) and type sudo update-grub (and grub2) but when 
[15:10] <Simeon> if it isnt listed, you need to install it.
[15:10] <dvhh> Simon1245 : on your laptop only, you would need to connect your laptop to your TV via the correct video cables
[15:10] <Wargasm> Simeon: the cog?
[15:11] <Logos01> No one at all, then?
[15:11] <Wargasm> Simeon: I think thats what its called
[15:11] <Simon1245> dvhh, Ah so I would need like a HDMI cable to do that, right?
[15:11] <dvhh> Simon1245 : or a vga cable
[15:11] <Hamed>  sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu but i can't see open as administrator i want easy way to make chmod without writing any codes every time
[15:11] <ikonia> SheTuggedMyPenor: ok - change it again to something nice
[15:11] <Simon1245> dvhh, I thought it was like wireless thing
[15:11] <SheTuggedMyPenor> ah derp, forgot I was in here, will part untill I change it back
[15:11] <ikonia> thanks
[15:11] <kalimojo> hi. whenever my system updates i have to reinstall my wifi driver. cant get it to work this time :(
[15:11] <dvhh> Simon1245 : I don't think your TV is yet that smart
[15:12] <Simon1245> dvhh, Hmm yeah it's like 3-4 years old now I think
[15:12] <Simon1245> dvhh, I think we bought it in 2008 or something if I remember right maybe even older
[15:12] <Logos01> Hamed: What you're after is explained here: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[15:13] <dvhh> Simon1245 : If it could browse DLNA sources you could
[15:13] <Logos01> Hamed: Alternatively, create a simple script and place it on your desktop; that script will contain a line, "sudo nautilus ."
[15:13] <Logos01> This will open up your filebrowser to your desktop, but it will be opened as root/administrator.
[15:13] <rabbi1> how can i restore my gnome, xorg, and nvidia drivers with a live CD ?
[15:13] <etheretic> wmspaceweather stopped updating simultaneously with the local weather applet.
[15:13] <Simon1245> dvhh, I doubt it can
[15:13] <Logos01> That will then let you interact with things with those privileges. @ Hamed
[15:14] <Logos01> rabbi1: Look into chrooting.
[15:14] <Simon1245> dvhh, What about the xbox? Some sort of way to connect it together with this?
[15:14] <dvhh> Simon1245 : Does your TV got any network connection at all ?
[15:14] <mneptok> Logos01: "sudo" is not for use with GTK apps. "gksu" is used for that.  <--- Hamed
[15:14] <Simon1245> dvhh, I don't think so, it's not that advanced, although Xbox does, I've been able to use the Windows media center thing and the xbox connected together
[15:16] <dvhh> Simon1245 : yeah you could use your XBOX like that, but XBMC remain superior in every way (it was developed for the original xbox)
[15:16] <Logos01> Anyone willing to be helpful to my circumstance? CentrifyDC is causing my /var/log/lastlog file to report (sparsely) as 407GB in size; and `df` is 'honoring' this. Anyone familiar with this situation?
[15:16] <metallico> hi guys, how do i install php 5.2 on Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:16] <Simon1245> dvhh, So it should work on Xbox 360 too, rihgt?
[15:16] <dvhh> Simon1245 : then you could install a DNLA server on ubuntu for your xbox360
[15:17] <Logos01> metallico: You need to add a repository that contains it.
[15:17] <rabbi1> Logos01: u mean this http://www.tuxation.com/chrooting-into-a-linux-environment.html ?
[15:17] <dvhh> Simon1245 : no it worked on craked xbox, as an homebrew
[15:17] <Simon1245> dvhh, :D I'm a noob at this honestly :D Wanna show me how? :D
[15:17] <mlc> metallico: sudo aptitude install php5
[15:17] <quiescens> Logos01: 407gb is not actually entirely out of the ordinary for /var/log/lastlog, if df is claiming that it is actually being used like that then that might be a problem, but the displayed size of lastlog has been seen higher than that depending on various factors
[15:17] <Logos01> The easiest is sudo apt-add-repository ppa:andphe/php , followed by replacing "natty" with "maverick" in the files it adds in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:17] <Wouter_> When my computer boots (1 os), i get a busybox (intrinfs) and i have to type 'exit' before my computer continues to boot. (after that it works fine). this happened after i installed mdadm (software linux raid). I tried reinstalling ubuntu but every time when i install mdadm i get the busy box again and i have to type exit before it continues. I tried to go to the commandline (in ubuntu) and type sudo update-grub (and grub2) but when 
[15:17] <metallico> where can i find the repo?
[15:17] <Wouter_> Anyone have any ideas?
[15:18] <metallico> mlc, that gives me php 5.3
[15:18] <Logos01> quiescens: I'm aware of that.
[15:18] <Logos01> lastlog is *supposed* to be a sparsefile.
[15:18] <Logos01> Trouble is, df is honoring it.
[15:18] <Hamed> is there is any way to make chmod to folder from right click after choose run as nautilus or something like that
[15:18] <ikonia> metallico: I would strongly advise you agaist using an external repo/package from outside hte ubuntu repos
[15:18] <Logos01> rabbi1: That looks right by the url.
[15:18] <dvhh> Simon1245 : is your laptop powerful enough to trancode video in real time ?
[15:18] <Logos01> Hamed: Not really. You can change the executability of it and who is permitted to read/write it from the 'permissions' tab though.
[15:19] <rabbi1> Logos01: please can u let me know, i am new to this, hope i won't screw it up
[15:19] <rabbi1> ;)
[15:19] <Simon1245> dvhh trancode means? It has 4gb ram, 500gb harddrive, 512mb Radeon grapich card
[15:19] <dvhh> Simon1245 : http://superuser.com/questions/242986/what-is-the-best-dlna-server-for-ubuntu
[15:19] <Logos01> rabbi1: There are youtube videos that talk about restoring GRUB on a system via chrooting. Watch a few. It's not a rough concept.
[15:19] <Hamed> i must enter from gksudo nautilus at first
[15:19] <dvhh> Simon1245 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/1755/what-dlna-server-to-choose
[15:20] <rabbi1> Logos01: ok , thank you
[15:20] <quiescens> Logos01: do you actually know that it is lastlog that is showing up in df?
[15:20] <dvhh> Simon1245 : trancode mean recoding media for the target player
[15:20] <Logos01> Hamed: That's why I suggested a script on your desktop that contains "sudo nautilus ."
[15:20] <quiescens> Logos01: and not files that have been "deleted" from the filesystem heirarchy but are still open by a process?
[15:20] <Logos01> quiescens: I've only got 28GB of data on the server.
[15:20] <mneptok> Hamed: if you want to change permissions of things not owned by you, and do it from a GUI, then yes, "gksu nautilus"
[15:20] <Logos01> Max has never been above 40.
[15:20] <mneptok> Hamed: be very, very careful what you do.
[15:20] <Logos01> It's reporting over 400.
[15:20] <Simon1245> dvhh, No idea if it is
[15:20] <Logos01> ls -lh /var/log/lastlog shows 407GB.
[15:21] <kame> what does "ls ~ " mean?
[15:21] <Logos01> kame: It lists out the files in your "home" directory.
[15:21] <mneptok> Hamed: do not run the "sudo nautilus" command that Logos01 gave. use "gksu nautilus"
[15:21] <Logos01> kame: man ls
[15:21] <kame> Logos01 thank you
[15:22] <mastro> I've set up nfs in /etc/fstab. It is not mounting at boot time, if I mount -a after the system has been booted it works
[15:22] <Simon1245> dvhh, Can I open a private chat with you maybe?
[15:22] <keyna> (j miui
[15:22] <keyna> sry
[15:22] <mastro> How do I make an NFS filesystem boot up on ubuntu server?
[15:22] <mastro> sorry I meant mount at boot time
[15:22] <crizzy> mastro: place it to /etc/fstab
[15:23] <quiescens> Logos01: still, i would probably check lsof for deleted files just in case, it seems unlikely that df would suddenly decide to misbehave
[15:23] <Logos01> mastro: Add it to your /etc/fstab is correct. Be sure to use the IP address rather than the DNS address, for stability.
[15:23] <mastro> crizzy, that's what I did
[15:23] <Logos01> quiescens: There aren't any. I've checked.
[15:23] <CharminTheMoose> Is there such thing as top for networks?
[15:23] <mastro> Logos01, I did.. but it's not mounting at boot time
[15:23] <Logos01> Plus; there's simply never been that much data on my system.
[15:23] <mastro> Logos01, crizzy and I can mount it with mount -a. So the configuration is correct
[15:24] <mastro> crizzy, Logos01 I would think of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/45842 but it's old and closed already
[15:24] <Logos01> mastro: Then it's a network issue; your machine isn't getting network connection "in time" to pick up those shares at boot.
[15:24] <Infernal> ikonia, Well i managed to make a test. I wanna thank you for your patience :)
[15:24] <Hamed> ok thank you it's done but every time i must to go to opt then choose lamp then htdocs then my website then    then   then  any way to do it easier than that
[15:24] <mastro> Logos01, how so? It's eth0 and I have connection at boot time
[15:24] <theadmin> Hamed: Make a link?
[15:24] <mneptok> mastro: are you using NetworkManager to configure interfaces? or is that all defined in /etc/network/interfaces and such?
[15:24] <Logos01> mastro: Try adding those mount commands to /etc/rc.d/
[15:25] <mastro> Logos01, it's ubuntu service, no gui
[15:25] <mastro> Logos01, ah.. ubuntu server
[15:25] <theadmin> Hamed: ln -s /opt/lamp/your_website/htdocs ~/htdocs
[15:25] <Logos01> mastro: Different things happen at different points in the boot process.
[15:25] <Logos01> If the network isn't up when the mount calls are made, nfs mount will fail.
[15:25] <CharlieSu> When doing a 'apt-get update' I see an 'Ign' which i think is ignore..  Why woudl this happen?   (Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/eternicode/rtorrent-0.8.7/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US)
[15:25] <mastro> Logos01, I know.. but on any other system (not ubuntu) I always just placed nfs in /etc/fstab and it booted, so this is probably a bug
[15:25] <theadmin> CharlieSu: Means the file is unchanged and therefore the old one is used
[15:26] <theadmin> CharlieSu: Normal, nothing to worry about
[15:26] <mneptok> mastro: try adding 'sudo mount -a' to rc.local
[15:26] <Logos01> mastro: It's probably a hardware issue.
[15:26] <Logos01> Boot order, or network issue.
[15:26] <CharlieSu> theadmin: is there a way to list all the packages in this PPA?  I thought i  could install a more recent version of rtorrent w/ it
[15:26] <Logos01> If it were genuinely a bug then you would have trouble mounting via mount -a
[15:26] <mastro> Logos01, no it isn't I connect to the system with ssh only
[15:26] <theadmin> CharlieSu: Well, the ingored one is the translations...
[15:26] <mastro> Logos01, and it's a virtual machine
[15:27] <theadmin> CharlieSu: And no, I know no way to list all packages in a repo
[15:27] <mneptok> mastro: rc.local gets executed very late in the boot process.
[15:27] <mastro> mneptok, ok that's an hack tough
[15:27] <mneptok> mastro: are you using NetworkManager to configure interfaces? or is that all defined in /etc/network/interfaces and such?
[15:27] <mastro> mneptok, and I need the NFS to be up BEFORE ssh server
[15:28] <Hamed> do you want me to write this code in terminal
[15:28] <Logos01> mastro: That's irrelevant.
[15:28] <mneptok> mastro: is the network-manager package installed?
[15:28] <Logos01> I assure you, your machine -- VM or not -- is not connected to network at boot-time.
[15:29] <Logos01> The boot order varies. Try adding the mount -a command to your relevant rc#.d/ directory.
[15:29] <Logos01> (I believe for server it's still rc3 ?  Ubuntu's different on that than a lot of distros.)
[15:29] <mastro> mneptok, I did an ubuntu server installation, no GUI so no NetworkManager (for instance dpkg -l network-manager show "un <none>") and I use DHCP to get up
[15:29] <theadmin> Logos01: All runlevels are equal... And actually don't exist anymore
[15:29] <CharlieSu> theadmin: if there are multiple repos that have the same package how will it choose which one to use?
[15:29] <Logos01> theadmin: Grr. that's a Debianism right?
[15:29] <theadmin> CharlieSu: apt will just use the most up-to-date one normally
[15:29] <theadmin> Logos01: Yeah
[15:30] <theadmin> Logos01: Well, actually that's just being used to the sane SysV Init system...
[15:30] <Logos01> theadmin: I'm too RHEL these days. Which is alright since I'm adminning ~500 of them.
[15:30] <Logos01> ... don't even get me started on Upstart. >_<
[15:30] <FischerFritz> I am trying to boot into Ubuntu (11.10) on a macbookpro 5,1 but without any success, even with rEFIt --> the boot process end with the error message "missing operating system". Any hints?
[15:30] <mastro> Logos01, and how would that happen? usually there's only a place when network is brought up
[15:31] <Logos01> mastro: The boot order varying? It just depends on when the hardware is initialized.
[15:31] <CharlieSu> is there a difference between lucid and lucid1 ?
[15:31] <martian> mastro: I didn't see the original question, but are you trying to get a network mount to work in fstab?
[15:31] <Logos01> mastro: Also, are you using IP addresses or DNS entries?
[15:31] <mneptok> mastro: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:32] <mastro> mneptok, nothing special on it... it's the default: auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp
[15:33] <mastro> mneptok, and the loopback interface just before that
[15:33] <FischerFritz> forgot to mention that I am trying to boot from a usb flash drive, since the built-in CD/DVD-drive is gone
[15:33] <Logos01> quiescens: Any thoughts on why df would be behaving that way?
[15:34] <mneptok> mastro: OK, and is the mount point in fastab defined by IP address or name?
[15:34] <martian> mastro: does your fstab entry have _netdev in the options?
[15:35] <mastro> mneptok, martian 192.168.88.252:/repo  /mnt/repos   nfs      rw,hard,intr  0     0
[15:35] <timurs> join #chef
[15:35] <mneptok> mastro: relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/275451
[15:36] <mastro> mneptok, Reported by kenjo on 2008-09-28 <--- I hope not :)
[15:36] <meerkats> i have a problem with the update manager: since 2 weeks ago it automatically pops up, as its supossed to do, but then, automatically turns to grey, its blocked, and I can only force quit it, any thoughts on this?
[15:36] <mneptok> mastro: see Keybuk's reply (S.J. Remnant)
[15:36] <mlc> meerkats: can you open synaptic
[15:36] <meerkats> mlc, yes
[15:37] <bc81> hello all.  i'm writing a script and looking for a way to periodically (every 5 seconds or so) reload a specified nautilus window via a terminal command.  i figured out how to close the window (wmctrl -c <window>) but could really use some help finding a way to reload it.  any ideas?
[15:37] <adom> hi all
[15:37] <martian> mastro: Hello? Does your fstab entry have _netdev in the options?
[15:37] <mastro> martian, I pasted you the fstab entry
[15:37] <mlc> meerkats: choose source from status
[15:38] <mlc> meerkats: i mean left side bottom
[15:38] <mastro> mneptok, sorry don't see that even searching in the bug page
[15:38] <mastro> mneptok, no Keybuk's reply (S.J. Remnant)
[15:39] <adom> i have a 2.5in WD Scorpio Blue hdd that won't show up when I plug it in (either with Sata-to-USB adapter or with SATA cable inside PC). what would my next step be to trying to recover the drive or at least getting it to be recognized by my PC? running ubuntu 10.04.
[15:39] <mastro> mneptok, ah... sorry I was mistyping Remnant with Renmant
[15:40] <mastro> mneptok, ok so you are saying this is an open issue since 2008 for ubuntu?
[15:40] <adom> i do have the firmware for it downloaded, but dunno how id get it flashed to it if the drive isn't showing up in Ubuntu or WIndows?
[15:40] <meerkats> mlc, you want me to write "source" in the synaptic search bar? I clicked on "status"; it only reloaded a smaller list
[15:40] <martian> mastro: I don't see a paste anywhere.
[15:41] <metallico> in what file are the Launchpad PPA Repositories stored? (it's not sources.list)
[15:41] <CharlieSu> metallico: look in the sources.list.d directory
[15:41] <CharlieSu> metallico: under /etc/apt/
[15:41] <mlc> meerkats: no sry. choose left all and down select status
[15:42] <meerkats> mlc, ok, i clicked on "status"
[15:43] <mlc> meerkats: ok, select left installed (updateable)
[15:43] <meerkats> mlc, ydo you want me to go to installed(upgradable)P=
[15:43] <meerkats> ?
[15:43] <meerkats> ok
[15:43] <mlc> meerkats: yea right
[15:43] <meerkats> what does linux-source synaptic's package do?
[15:44] <mastro> martian, 192.168.88.252:/repo  /mnt/repos   nfs      rw,hard,intr  0     0
[15:44] <mlc> meerkats: hmm. have you empty the text in the search filter
[15:44] <socrates_johnson> hello, i'm using 11.10 and am trying to convert an .ogv files to .avi or .mp4 using ffmpeg, winff, and openshot without luck (there are lots of stray gray pixels scattered throughout the video)...however, it works uses handbrake in linux, winff in windows, and ffmpeg on a redhat machine... thanks for any thoughts
[15:44] <meerkats> mlc, no, what for?
[15:44]  * camoval camobal
[15:44] <metallico> CharlieSu, it's not there either  (i've used the command add-apt-repository)
[15:45] <mlc> meerkats: the filter blocked all other items
[15:45] <rabbi1> how can i restore my gnome, xorg and nvidia drivers
[15:45] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: wich codecs do you want to use?
[15:45] <rabbi1> in 10.04 ?
[15:45] <mlc> meerkats: we need all updates
[15:45] <SliMM> hello
[15:45] <CharlieSu> metallico: then go into your /etc/apt directory and do a recursive GREP for the Repo...  it will show you what file has it..
[15:46] <SliMM> I have a problem with pulseaudio and network configuration
[15:46] <martian> mastro: I am fairly certain that you need to add _netdev to the options like: _netdev,rw,hard,intr
[15:46] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: sorry i'm not great with the codecs stuff...basically an unpixeled .mp4 and/or .avi is all i'm interested in
[15:46] <martian> mastro: that tells the system that you need networking first to mount that device
[15:46] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: this is the command that works in redhat but not my ubuntu machine: ffmpeg -i out.ogv -vcodec mpeg4 -sameq ffmpeg.avi
[15:47] <metallico> CharlieSu, i just found it, thanks
[15:47] <mlc> meerkats: have you clear the text in the search filer?
[15:47] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: avi and mp4 are containers. basically, just boxes. but depending on the device that is going to read your video you will have to choose a proper encoder
[15:47] <SliMM> firstly, the pulseaudio daemon doesn't seem to be starting properly, because I cannot use "pactl" to load modules or "pavucontrol" (I get "connection refused")
[15:47] <meerkats> mlc, yes
[15:47] <CharlieSu> metallico: no prob
[15:47] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: if you just want to watch on your computer I suggest you encode it to h264/avc in a mkv or mp4 container
[15:47] <mlc> meerkats: good. have you now right a list with packages?
[15:48] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now my neighbours hate me. I need help with audio volume settings. Everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm. Any idea how to fix this?
[15:48] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: okay, i was just going to say that i've been using h264 in handbrake and that's fine
[15:48] <meerkats> yes mlc
[15:48] <CocaCola> Is it possible to have "dock gnome extension" on bottom?
[15:49] <mastro> martian, ? ok I'll try thanks
[15:49] <rabbi1> please help, I got ubuntu 10.04 live cd, how can i restore or reconfig my gnome, xorg, and nvidia drivers ?
[15:49] <mlc> meerkats: ok, the best is now if you select all packages and make then a richtclick
[15:49] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: then `ffmpeg -i <input.ogv> -acodec libfaac -ab 256k -ac 2 -vcodec libx264 -vpre fast -crf <from 15 to 25, the lower the better, the higher the faster> output.mp4'
[15:49] <mastro> martian, never had to do so.. is this an ubuntu modification?
[15:51] <mlc> rabbi1: if you save your home directory
[15:51] <martian> mastro: I don't really know, but I've had to do it on my machines. I guess the kernel will normally try to mount devices before making network connections, or do them in parallel, so with that option it forces it to wait for networking to complete before attempting to mount
[15:51] <mlc> rabbi1: sorry, i mean save your home directory
[15:51] <rabbi1> mlc: i am just confused following lot of different ways and posts :(
[15:51] <mastro> martian, thanks it worked but I wonder why on any other server (redhat, debian, ...) I never had to add that argument
[15:52] <mlc> rabbi1: yea that is normal in irc
[15:52] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: thanks, but that's still pixelated...i don't know if this is useful information or not, but if i crop the video in openshot and try to export it in ogg it's still pixelated
[15:52] <rabbi1> mlc: ok, i am saving, i am just rebooting from the CD. .... brb
[15:52] <mlc> rabbi1: your moste importend settings are stored in you home directory
[15:53] <martian> mastro: beats me!
[15:53] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: weird, I never experienced such a problem. does ffmpeg output any warnings?
[15:53] <mlc> rabbi1: and you can save the apt cache
[15:53] <CharminTheMoose> How do I stop upstart from clearing the screen of its own bootmessages? The system boots to starting init grand, then starts the upstart services and then finishes, but clears the screen, leaving only the initial starting init message and the login prompt
[15:54] <henrico> someone here from california?
[15:54] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: no, i don't see any warnings
[15:54] <mastro> martian, anyway thank you
[15:54] <henrico> someone here from californiaplease pvt me i need some information about ths place
[15:54] <rabbi1> mlc: apt cache ? how ? i also have lot of things in /var/www and all :(
[15:55] <OerHeks> henrico, this is ubuntu support, join #Ubuntu-offtopic for other questions.
[15:55] <bazhang> !loco > henrico
[15:55] <mlc> rabbil1: save apt cache with AptOnCd
[15:55] <theadmin> How good is runit support on Ubuntu, if at all? I'm reading up on it and it looks extremely interesting
[15:55] <eagles0513875|||> hey guys where are desktop images located on the ystem
[15:55] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: thanks for trying...i'll keep experimenting. i'm interested to see if I can convert other formats with ffmeg or if it's only an ogv problem
[15:55] <malcolm> I tried to download and dpkg -i a .deb file that apperently ubuntu has dependency issues with, but now i cant install anything as it keeps giving me the dependency error on the package i was trying to install.  how do i make it forget about the package it can't install?
[15:56] <henrico> no one in this whole chatroom from california?
[15:56] <theadmin> !ot | henrico
[15:56] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: maybe the ogv file is somehow corrupted and most encoders fail to read it properly
[15:56] <bazhang> henrico, check the loco list
[15:56] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: but I think there would be warnings
[15:56] <bazhang> !loco | henrico
[15:56] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: is the audio okay?
[15:56] <mlc> rabbi1: have you any written /var/www
[15:57] <Lint> how to make apt-get to ignore broken packages?
[15:57] <rabbi1> mlc: i can copy the home directory and how to save apt cache ? and what should i do with my other apps and /var/www ?
[15:57] <theadmin> Lint: You can't just ignore that.
[15:57] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: it's just a desktop recording so no audio to check unfortunately
[15:57] <mastro> martian, no apparently that doesn't worked... it's random
[15:57] <Lint> but I need to
[15:57] <theadmin> Lint: What you need to do is fix it :/
[15:58] <mlc> rabbi1: aptoncd
[15:58] <rabbi1> mlc: can't i just repair install, so that i leaves my apps and directories alone and installs only the OS files ? :(
[15:58] <Lint> or even better: how to "uninstall" package without deconfiguring it or removing files?
[15:58] <theadmin> Lint: Without... removing files? How is that even an uninstall?
[15:59] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: just as a sanity check...i can convert mp4 to avi just fine
[15:59] <subone> Is there a cli image viewer?
[15:59] <mlc> rabbi1: yes, but that is not easy
[15:59] <martian> mastro: bummer. Any valuable information in dmesg?
[15:59] <rabbi1> mlc: yeah, i have the aptoncd and os is loaded to ... should i just copy apt cache
[15:59] <CharminTheMoose> How do I stop upstart from clearing the screen of its own bootmessages? The system boots to starting init grand, then starts the upstart services and then finishes, but clears the screen, leaving only the initial starting init message and the login prompt
[15:59] <MariusKarthaus> HI, i've switched to unity and I like it. There is one thing I miss *very* much and that is a 'searchable' clipboard. In KDE  I used klipper, while the history was open, i was albe to type chars and the list would be filtered accordingly. This makes a lot of sense when multiple lines are copied and you need to find the correct one. Is something like that available in unity?
[15:59] <Lint> it's uninstall because dpkg thinks that packat has gone
[15:59] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: try `ffmpeg -i input.ogv -an -vcodec rawvideo out.avi' to see which of the encoder or decoder is failing
[15:59] <bazhang> Lint, clarify
[16:00] <Lint> bazhang, dpkg has this package as 'uninstalled' while he's still physically installed/configured
[16:00] <mlc> rabbi1: for future installation: you can create very easy a seperate home partition
[16:00] <bazhang> Lint, you never ignore broken packages
[16:00] <xangua> MariusKarthaus: there are some clipboad managers for gnome, i use Glippy wich supports ubuntu Indicators
[16:00] <Lint> bazhang, i.e. its files are untouched
[16:00] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: this will put your video unencoded in an AVI encoder (takes a lot of disk space though)
[16:00] <firekraag> AVI container*
[16:01] <xangua> MariusKarthaus: it has no searcheable box but it has other useful stuff like upload the text to pastebin like sites
[16:01] <rabbi1> mlc: can we PM ?
[16:01] <Lint> bazhang, "I never ignore" because apt-get is a junk and has not this option? or why?
[16:01] <mlc> rabbi1; yea
[16:02] <malcolm> how do i get apt-get to forget about a package that failed install due to dependency issues.  I can't install anything now without -f
[16:02] <bazhang> Lint, apt-get is not junk. you fix broken packages not ignore them
[16:02] <Lint> rpm has an option to remove package from its base only, does dpkg have its analog?
[16:02] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: is the only orange message i get (warning?) [ogg @ 0x900540] max_analyze_duration reached
[16:02] <Lint> bazhang, I want to fix it by removing broken package, but I need its files to remain on disk
[16:02] <MariusKarthaus> yea, I really need searchable. I use it all the time while coding.
[16:03] <bazhang> Lint, that makes not a whit of sense
[16:03] <Lint> bazhang, why is that, let me ask?
[16:04] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: hmm and is the raw avi file looking okay?
[16:04] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: it's also pixelated unfortunately
[16:05] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric and now everytime I log in my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm. Any idea how to fix this?
[16:05] <Lint> or you want to tell rpm designers were idiots for providing that option?
[16:05] <firekraag> socrates_johnson: okay I don't have a clue why then, sry
[16:06] <OerHeks> Lint use the -f option to fix broken packages, like the manual says so
[16:06] <socrates_johnson> firekraag: no worries, thank you for your help
[16:06] <Lint> I need to REMOVE PACKAGE FROM DATABASE ONLY, NOT FROM a DISK
[16:08] <Pici> Lint: There should never be a reason to do that.  Why not fix why it is broken instead of breaking your system further?
[16:08] <subone> Is there a cli image viewer?
[16:08] <cloudgeek> any current usenet irc for downloads plz any body tell me
[16:08] <theadmin> subone: fbi
[16:08] <bazhang> cloudgeek, not this network
[16:09] <cloudgeek> bazhang: any link or irc name if you know
[16:09] <Lint> Pici, because if I need a file from a broken package to be present
[16:09] <bazhang> cloudgeek, nope sorry
[16:09] <mneptok> cloudgeek: discussion of such things is not welcome in this channel
[16:09] <theadmin> cloudgeek: Offtopic on this network --this network does NOT support piracy at all.
[16:10] <mneptok> Lint: fix packages. get dpkg happy. remove packages you will not use. then download the .deb files from the http repos and put what you need where. but i wouldn't do it.
[16:11] <Lint> mneptok, so I can unpack and configure deb file without marking it as installed/configured?
[16:12] <Lint> I need commands to do it
[16:13] <mneptok> Lint: what i proposed is not for the inexperienced.
[16:13] <LjL> Lint: "unpack and configure", no you can't, not automatically. but you can extract it and if needed run the postinst script manually.
[16:13] <Lint> if you don't want to help me, I'll do it my way
[16:14] <LjL> Lint: feel free. and no, people here generally won't help with things they find terrible ideas.
[16:14] <Lint> this is a STANDARD OPTION in rpm, don't make excuse for dpkg stupidity please
[16:14] <leifmadsen> morning all; I'm trying to figure out why I can't get the audio on my 11.10 system working. This is an upgrade from 10.10->11.04 where audio used to work. I've tried googling and tried all the suggestions I can find; deleting the ~/.pulse directory, reinstalling sound drivers/modules, but i can't seem to get past the sound settings showing anything but the Dummy Output
[16:15] <mneptok> Lint: it's not that i don't want to help you. it's that anyone experienced enough to start messing with packages the way you propose does not then say, "give me the commands."
[16:15] <OerHeks> Lint what packages are you ranting about ?
[16:15] <Lint> OerHeks, gtk-doc-tools
[16:16] <Lint> it wants its dependencies
[16:17] <theadmin> Lint: Uh, okay, install them?
[16:17] <theadmin> Lint: All you need is likely: sudo apt-get -f --reinstall install gtk-doc-tools
[16:17] <Lint> theadmin, don't want them, don't need them, only this package is needed
[16:17] <Lint> but it's 'broken' without them and that completely blocks apt-get work
[16:18] <theadmin> Lint: This makes no sense you know, if you need a package and need it to work (and you do), you need the deps as well. Familiarize yourself with the content of packages.
[16:18] <LjL> Lint: if they're dependencies but the package is not actually dependant on them, then file a bug.
[16:18] <MeXTuX> What is the best free tool around to access Linux partitions from Windows??? :D
[16:19] <Somelauw> What is the commandline way to change a wallpaper?
[16:19] <cloudgeek> mneptok: bazhang theadmin  ,i am not using for piracy or don't want hurt channel rules i want use this for hign speed download of software
[16:19] <Lint> LjL, this package is a buch of shell scripts, it cannot depend on anything
[16:19] <LjL> Lint: uh, now that makes no sense.
[16:19] <mneptok> cloudgeek: stop asking about it or you will be removed.
[16:19] <LjL> Lint: why can't shell scripts depend on things?
[16:19] <Somelauw> I already tried     #GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file://$wallpaper"
[16:19] <qw-Russian> hello
[16:19] <theadmin> Lint: Sure can... I mean, shellscripts can call almost any binary, they can depend even on KDE lol
[16:19] <skypce> hi guys , can add here a link of a home made distro ?
[16:19] <ikonia> skypce: no
[16:19] <theadmin> skypce: No, sorry
[16:19] <skypce> ok
[16:19] <firekraag> Lint: Then create your own deb package without the dependancies, and file a bug
[16:19] <mastro> martian, anyway no it didnt' fix the issue, it was random and apparently there's something else going on
[16:19] <cloudgeek> mneptok: i am not asking now about that
[16:19] <qw-Russian> hemp me please install MS Acces from Linux in 0
[16:19] <kingfisher64> anybody know how to solve printing problems with Scribus in Ubuntu 11.10? My printer works with every program except Scribus - in which is says it's printing and the print job has completed successfully, but it hasn't printed a thing out.
[16:20] <ikonia> qw-Russian: not going to happen, that is a Microsoft product, not available on linux
[16:20] <Lint> !appdb > qw-Russian
[16:20] <cloudgeek> mneptok: but but you can't say you can be removed
[16:20] <LjL> cloudgeek: sure he can say that. this channel is about Ubuntu technical support, everything else is offtopic.
[16:21] <martian> mastro: you should check your dmesg to see what if any error is being thrown.
[16:21]  * Lint is confused with debian developers who think that messing with /var/lib/dpkg/status manually is a Right thing
[16:22] <ciprian> what ys hapening
[16:22] <cloudgeek> mneptok LjL every body have own freedom no one is bound anyone ,one more yep i respect rules of this channel want ask about only ubuntu by next time but you can behave like that you can remove , freedom is right of everybody
[16:22] <haidara> bug ???
[16:22] <haidara> please help
[16:22] <mneptok> *sigh*
[16:22] <bazhang> cloudgeek, not here please
[16:23] <jigspan> how can we see during improper shut down  message on screen ?
[16:23] <cloudgeek> bazhang: now i don't ask about that topic be calm never wanna to ask that thing here expect ubuntu realted stuff
[16:23] <theadmin> cloudgeek: This channel has rules. Rules are to be followed.
[16:23] <theadmin> ...does *anyone* actually read them :(
[16:23] <bazhang> cloudgeek, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:23] <haidara> soft were center doesnt work and its bugged plzzz help ???
[16:23] <cloudgeek> theadmin: okay +1
[16:24] <Lint> haidara, that's OK, install synaptic package manager instead
[16:24] <haidara> ok thanks
[16:24] <OerHeks> haidara what is the problem ?
[16:24] <primenumber> Morning all! I'm a newbie and having some trouble choosing a Ubuntu interface. Is this the right place to ask opinions?
[16:24] <LjL> primenumber: #ubuntu-offtopic would be better for subjective opinions
[16:24] <mlc> theadmin: yea here
[16:24] <primenumber> thanks
[16:24] <mlc> haidara: can you start the software center in a shell
[16:24] <klync> jigspan: it may have been written to /var/log/messages before shutdown
[16:25] <theadmin> mlc: Sorry, what?
[16:25] <haidara> im trying to open it but suddenly a msg apperas that there is a bug
[16:25] <meskarune> I love how people always say "go to offtopic" when they disagree with someone else. :P (ya'll should pm each other, for reals)
[16:26] <jigspan> klync: how to find what problem when we have improper shut down
[16:26] <LjL> meskarune: that in turn was random and unneeded.
[16:26] <meskarune> LjL: it happens every single day in this channel though
[16:26] <subone> Looks like jp2a does what I need
[16:27] <meskarune> and pointing out people's behavior encourages them to change
[16:27] <klync> jigspan: that's a very broad question, there's no simple answer. but messages written to screen may have also gone to /var/log/messages or other files in that dir; looking through there is a good place to start
[16:27] <meskarune> haidara: can you open software center in the terminal and see if there is an error?
[16:28] <jigspan> klync:i have this problem since i have installed 11.10 i dont know what to do can u explain little more?
[16:28] <meskarune> haidara: you can also use aptitude to isntall software if you really need to update/install something in the mean time
[16:29] <klync> jigspan: no, i have nothing more to explain. can *you* explain a little more about the symptoms of your problem and any diagnostics you've done so far? Have you found anything in the logs?
[16:29] <Lint> meskarune, synaptic >> aptitude
[16:29] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:29] <cristian_c> I'm using Oneiric Ocelot 11.10, I purchased an asus WL-330gE. The device shields the connection to the router, unfortunately I have to first establish a direct connection to the router, and then the computer automatically snaps to a repeater. But if the PC tries to connect to the router via the repeater, it fails
[16:29] <haidara> eskarume thanks a million man
[16:30] <cristian_c> the network manager tries to connect several times, but it fails to connect. So I updated the firmware to the latest version, from version 2.0.1.9 to 2.0.2.0, but unfortunately the problem persists
[16:30] <ljsoftnet> how do i know if im using ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit?
[16:30] <cristian_c> What can I do to solve the problem?
[16:30] <firekraag> ljsoftnet: uname -a
[16:31] <ljsoftnet> it says x86_64
[16:31] <ljsoftnet> firekraag it says x86_64
[16:31] <firekraag> ljsoftnet: then it's 64-bit
[16:31] <ljsoftnet> firekraag ok thanks
[16:32] <PlaneCrazy1> Is anyone else fed up with 11.10 or is it just me!?
[16:32] <jigspan> klync: last time i got message that system is halted and control were lost i have not made any diagnostics
[16:32] <firekraag> PlaneCrazy1: I use 10.04LTS cause I really don't like unity/gnome shell
[16:32] <haidara> but where i can find aptitue ????? im using KUBUNTU ??? where i should look to find it ???
[16:33] <PlaneCrazy1> Yah I think that I am going back to 10.04 as well
[16:33] <theadmin> haidara: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[16:33] <xxdigitolxx> can someone help me figure out how to stream video with htaccess in place on apache?
[16:34] <xxdigitolxx> before htaccess was setup i was able to just copy a link from a directory listing to play it through vlc or any video player
[16:34] <xxdigitolxx> but now htaccess is in place..i believe it requires authentication on each video link
[16:34] <xxdigitolxx> so the video player will not play without authentication
[16:34] <onceltuca> hi im running 11.10. i have a problem.  when im trying to login as my user i come back to the login screen. it is ok to log in as guest though.. someone that recognizes this problem?
[16:34] <xxdigitolxx> not sure if there is a way around this
[16:34] <haidara> thanks a lot
[16:34] <xxdigitolxx> or an option i have to set in my apache configuration or htaccess config
[16:35] <PlaneCrazy1> If I was to go back to 10.04 I guess I would have to repartition and reinstall 10.04...correct?
[16:36] <meskarune> lint: actually GUI are not always better
[16:36] <onceltuca> how can i start ubuntu without starting X?
[16:36] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, put your htaccess on pastebin
[16:36] <rumpe1> PlaneCrazy1, yes. Clean, fresh reinstall. Maybe make a backup of /home before that, because user profiles could get invalid
[16:37] <rumpe1> onceltuca, "text" as kernel parameter in grub boot menu should work
[16:37] <xxdigitolxx> planecrazy1....if you run setup from 10.04 cd it should guide you through the whole process of repartitioning and reinstall of 10.04
[16:37] <meskarune> onceltuca: you can add an entry in grub that has ubuntu boot in run level 3
[16:38] <xxdigitolxx> onceltuca, um...try using ubuntu-server edition..there is no x installed.
[16:38] <onceltuca> rumpe1: how do i get to grub
[16:38] <meskarune> onceltuca: in grub legacy you would add "ro 3" to the end of the kernel line. but its probably a different procedure for grub2
[16:38] <rumpe1> onceltuca, the boot screen should be grub
[16:38] <PlaneCrazy1> Thanks. Can the home folder be copied to the the newly installed 10.04 if I do side by side install of 10.04 next to 11.10?
[16:38] <onceltuca> xxdigitolxx: but i have already installed it. Actually im logged in as aguest right now
[16:38] <haidara> ok i think its done but should the terminal window close automatically to assure its done ???
[16:39] <onceltuca> rumpe1: it just starts ubuntu right away
[16:39] <meskarune> haidara: you don't have to close the terminal window. :)
[16:39] <rumpe1> PlaneCrazy1, you can copy your home folder, yes. You might sometimes get version conflicts though.
[16:39] <onceltuca> meskarune: doesnt this require root access ?
[16:39] <rumpe1> onceltuca, how did you add the kernel parameter?
[16:39] <onceltuca> meskarune: im logged in as guest.
[16:40] <PlaneCrazy1> yah I kind of figured...thanks
[16:40] <meskarune> onceltuca: I see. you will need root access to edit grub parameters
[16:40] <onceltuca> rumpe1: havnt added any parameters.
[16:40] <mneptok> PlaneCrazy1: why not keep 11.10 and just change the UI?
[16:41] <onceltuca> i just couldnt log in today with my user name.
[16:41] <PlaneCrazy1> what do u mean by changing the UI?
[16:41] <onceltuca> meskarune: thats the problem
[16:41] <haidara> im sorru 4 bothering you ... but its the first time i use kubuntu ??? now i think i installed that thing what sgould i do next ???
[16:41] <theadmin> PlaneCrazy1: Replace Unity with Gnome Shell, Gnome Fallback, XFCE
[16:41] <meskarune> PlaneCrazy1: you could just share your home with both install's. (if home is on its own partition) you'd just have to mount it in fstab
[16:41] <xxdigitolxx> bluefrog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/844609/
[16:42] <xxdigitolxx> any help would be appreciated
[16:42] <meskarune> onceltuca: if you don't have root access you need to talk to the system admin of the computer you are using :P
[16:42] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, gues the answer is in the question. yes it will ask for auth
[16:42] <onceltuca> meskarune: haha
[16:43] <Somelauw> Has anyone got wmii to work on ubuntu?
[16:43] <Lint> meskarune, and have the mess with uids? lol
[16:43] <onceltuca> meskarune: ok, he says he cannot log in as he used to do before this problem arised.
[16:43] <meskarune> onceltuca: .... so no one has root access?
[16:44] <vlt> Hello. What can I do to get rid of the green square I see in chromium browser on Oneiric instead of the video? (It works in Firefox.)
[16:44] <xxdigitolxx> bluefrog..do you know if there is an option if you know the exact path to the video link . you can just stream it in vlc without authentication?
[16:45] <xxdigitolxx> i would only like to have authentication to the directory listing
[16:45] <onceltuca> meskarune: yed. there is one more account that has root but shes no around right now
[16:45] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, dunno but there's maybe an option in vlc to pass credentials
[16:45] <xxdigitolxx> but as per file..if the direct link is known..not authentication is required
[16:45] <xxdigitolxx> thanks.
[16:45] <xxdigitolxx> i'll try looking for that.
[16:46] <meskarune> onceltuca: well, you should only let the person who owns the system and has root access edit things like grub :P
[16:47] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, then Options -Indexes should suffice for you
[16:47] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, in yourvhost directory  directive
[16:47] <xxdigitolxx> thanks i wil try that out.
[16:48] <xxdigitolxx> yeah..i'm still new to linux..
[16:48] <skrag> Question: Im trying to lock a file in place so that people cannot move the folder, i want to give them full access inside the folder i just want to make it so they cant move the main dir.... suggestions?
[16:48] <xxdigitolxx> i'll try figuring out where that goes
[16:48] <xxdigitolxx> -cd-apache2-sites-available
[16:48] <xxdigitolxx> ?
[16:49] <Gentoo64> skrag, you could chown the folder to root and chown all the files inside it as user
[16:49] <skrag> hmmmm
[16:50] <skrag> good idea
[16:50] <skrag> that would make it so that they couldnt make files in the main dir though, right
[16:50] <bluefrog> skrag, have a look at chattr command
[16:50] <stanman246> can a ff7 profile be copied to a ff10?
[16:50] <Gentoo64> ive only ever used chattr for immutable
[16:51] <Gentoo64> that wont let you write though
[16:51] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, hum? oh I copied a bit more than intended? for that path
[16:51] <bluefrog> xxdigitolxx, forget the path and concentrate in the <Directory ..;
[16:51] <Galaxor> Is there a utility that can use aalib to convert an image file into ascii?  I would've thought it'd be distributed in libaa-bin, but it doesn't seem to.
[16:52] <rcmaehl> Hey
[16:52] <rcmaehl> People don't understand terminal at my school
[16:52] <rcmaehl> Just saying
[16:53] <mustafaerhann> greetingss!
[16:54] <jiltdil> channel for backtrack?
[16:54] <theadmin> jiltdil: #backtrack-linux
[16:55] <bluefrog> Gentoo64, skrag yes indeed chattr won't do the trick. change ownership directly or thru acl
[16:56] <jiltdil> theadmin,  thanks
[16:56] <skrag> looking into it, acl?
[16:57] <bluefrog> skrag, finer access control list
[16:57] <mustafaerhann> is it necesary to compile kernel from vanilla source in ubuntu cause i noticed that compiling native kernel in mandriva linux increases performans.
[16:57] <meskarune> skrag: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chgrp
[16:57] <ikonia> mustafaerhann: you will not get a benifit
[16:57] <mustafaerhann> k
[16:57] <ivanoats> when I log in with the correct password, it just returns me to the login screen. I've tried answers on google, but no luck. This is in a VMWare Fusion VM so I'm not sure how to use fn keys to get to a bare terminal. any ideas?
[16:57] <bluefrog> skrag, chown in the first place will be easier for you as Gentoo64 says
[16:58] <ivanoats> when I log in with the correct password, it just returns me to the login screen. I've tried answers on google, but no luck. This is in a VMWare Fusion VM so I'm not sure how to use fn keys to get to a bare terminal. any ideas?
[16:58] <skrag> alright, ill read some man pages.... thanks guys
[16:59] <ivanoats> sorry for the double post, couldn't see first one
[16:59] <theadmin> ivanoats: ctrl-alt-f2 gets you to tty if that's what you want
[16:59] <meskarune> skrag: to make the directory owned by root do "sudo chown root /<path to directory>" and I would suggest making a new group, then giving that group permission to the files, and add all the users you want to use those files in that group
[16:59] <bluefrog> skrag, http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1038-ubuntu-804-access-control-lists
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !8.04 > MonkeyDust
[17:00] <ivanoats> theadmin, thanks. now I guess I'll try checking xorg configs?
[17:01] <Onkeltem> Hi
[17:01] <Yabadoo> can someone explain me why canonical is wasting time on ubuntu tv while it clearly can't compete?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Yabadoo  wrong channel
[17:01] <theadmin> ivanoats: More likely change the password, who knows, might have been set wrongly without you noticing, happens. That first. Then try replacing your current display manager with another one to see if that'll work
[17:01] <bazhang> Yabadoo, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:01] <Yabadoo> bazhang: ok, sry
[17:02] <Yabadoo> MonkeyDust: sorry.
[17:02] <ivanoats> no, the password works. I can log in, in bare terminal
[17:02] <Onkeltem> Yesterday I was asking about video linear editing software, and someone advised me OpenShot. Today I tried it but cound't find a way to save a file without full encoding. So, is there a good software for this?
[17:02] <Onkeltem> Just need to cut some parts from a video file
[17:03] <meskarune> Onkeltem: avidmux ?
[17:03] <meskarune> Onkeltem: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/
[17:04] <Onkeltem> meskarune: thank you!
[17:05] <ivanoats> so, I did a dpkg-reconfigure gdm. Now using gdm instead of light... but still same problem, always returns me to login screen. even when I select recovery console session
[17:05] <lvidal> hello
[17:05] <lvidal> simple question here
[17:06] <qw-Russian> how me killed proccesed ?
[17:06] <klync> lvidal: no question there, actually ...
[17:06] <meskarune> ivanoats: do you have auto logon turned on?
[17:06] <qw-Russian> i am not see proced in the top
[17:06] <ivanoats> meskarune:  no auto login
[17:07] <ivanoats> qw-Russian:  ps aux | grep -i <processname>
[17:08] <qw-Russian> but as to know the name of process me ?
[17:09] <Somelauw> Has anyone got wmii to work on ubuntu?
[17:09] <lvidal> I installed ubuntu server in a VM for local Web Development. I name the hostname  "devserver" as anyone from any computer could access the files from the browser, and it worked. But something happened when the router we had was changed for another, now if I put devserver in the browser it doesn't find it. Am I missing something here?
[17:09] <tMH> ppl, pal of mine installed win7 on sda1 then xubuntu on sdb1 (preformatted ext4+swap partitions on it) and xubuntu installed grub on sdb1. now he installed some os manager on sda1 (win7 partition) and when the system boots up it shows that boot manager and if he select xubuntu to load - GRUB appears..
[17:09] <ivanoats> qw-Russian: you don't know the process name? and you don't see it in top? how do you know it's there, please explain more
[17:09] <tMH> the question is - how to remove grub totally from sdb1 yet leaving sdb1 bootable?
[17:11] <meskarune> Somelauw: probably. if you are having problems, just ask for a solution.
[17:11] <qw-Russian> ivanoats, I tried to set Access through a cantilever and the program hung up began to be knocked out very much many errors 35
[17:11] <meskarune> tmH: why do you want to get rid of grub?
[17:11] <Somelauw> meskarune: I am having problems compiling libixp-hg
[17:12] <Onkeltem> meskarune: avidemux is unable to detect FLAC audio?
[17:12] <meskarune> Somelauw: do you have all the compilers installed? and are you getting any errors?
[17:12] <Somelauw> But if I ask how to compile libixp-hg, I am actually asking an x y problem.
[17:12] <meskarune> Onkeltem: do you have the flac codec installed?
[17:12] <Onkeltem> meskarune: I've created a screencast using Kazam, and can't open it with Avidemux in other words
[17:13] <popey> Onkeltem: tried openshot?
[17:13] <Onkeltem> meskarune: I don't know do I have it actually. 'flac' executable is installed yes
[17:13] <ivanoats> theadmin , meskarune or anyone: I'm seeing a lot of gdm-critical errors in /var/log/syslog like CRITICAL: gdm_session_direct_get_username: assertion `session != NULL' failed
[17:13] <tMH> meskarune - because there are _two_ os managers.
[17:13] <popey> Onkeltem: which version of kazam?
[17:13] <tMH> meskarune - and if 1st one will be removed - then there will be no way to load grub.
[17:13] <Onkeltem> popey: yes, but openshot can't do trivial things like saving without re-encoding
[17:13] <tMH> because grub installed on sdb1
[17:13] <tMH> not sda1
[17:13] <qw-Russian> help me please
[17:13] <tMH> understand?:)
[17:14] <theadmin> ivanoats: Do you have any proper desktop environments installed?
[17:14] <Onkeltem> popey: kazam 0.11
[17:14] <ivanoats> it's a standard out of the box ubuntu 11.10, only a few days old
[17:15] <popey> Onkeltem: try kazam 1.0.2, much better
[17:15] <cypher-neo> qw-Russian, How can I help?
[17:16] <meskarune> tMH: do you mean 2 boot loaders?
[17:16] <Onkeltem> popey: ohhh! thank you for pointing me out on that
[17:16] <bacu> hi
[17:16] <Onkeltem> popey: would you link a ppa?
[17:16] <vitopalumbo> !LIST
[17:16] <popey> Onkeltem: it's linked from http://launchpad.net/kazam
[17:16] <Onkeltem> popey: _the_ ppa I meant
[17:16] <meskarune> Onkeltem: this lists the audio formates avidmux uses: http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=general:output_formats   I don't see flac, but would it be possible for you to transcode that to ogg?
[17:17] <qw-Russian> cypher-neo, I tried to set Access through a cantilever and the program hung up began to be knocked out very much many errors 35 i would like killed this procced
[17:17] <tMH> meskarune - once again. win7 on sda1 and grub on sdb1, yet boot manager on sda1 that gives ability to load win7 OR xubuntu from sdb1.
[17:17] <Onkeltem> popey: is 1.0.2 a stable version?
[17:17] <Somelauw> meskarune: I get the following error when trying to build:http://pastebin.com/j7yZJZnj
[17:18] <meskarune> tMH: what boot manager do you have installed on sda1 ? I don't understand. do you have grub installed twice? or are you using a different boot loader?
[17:18] <Onkeltem> popey: don't mind, I found
[17:18] <tMH> meskarune - if you choose to load xubuntu THEN grub appears and asks you to choose win7 or xubuntu. stupid enough?:) now I want to know how to _remove_ GRUB and leave xubuntu (sdb1) as active/bootable partition?
[17:18] <tMH> meskarune - different boot loader. not me but my co-worker:)
[17:19] <Guest47678> hello, how can I set up and configure a pptp vpn connection using a command line (in a server) .. thx
[17:19] <meskarune> tMH: ok, it sounds like the first boot loader is chaining to grub. first you need to edit the first boot loader to directly load xbuntu. THEN you can delete grub. If you don't do that first you won't be able to boot xubuntu at all. :P
[17:20] <meskarune> tMH: if you tell me what boot loader the first one is I can help you with that. (the only one I know besides grub is lilo)
[17:20] <tMH> meskarune - I don't think 1st loader is chained to ubuntu. it loading sdb1 as normal drive and THEN grub appears.
[17:20] <tMH> meskarune - now - how to remove grub AND leave sdb1 bootable as if it wasn't with grub at all?
[17:20] <meskarune> tHM: if you have a boot loader that is loading grub then they are chained :P
[17:21] <tMH> meskarune - acronis OS selector.
[17:21] <Somelauw> Does anyone understand that compiler error?
[17:21] <tMH> I can tell pal of mine to remove all partitions on sdb1 and REINSTALL xubuntu
[17:21] <meskarune> tMH: ok. I"ve heard of acronis actually, but I might need a little time to look up how to add xubuntu to it. :) once you boot xubuntu directly from acronis, then you can delete grub. just a sec. :)
[17:21] <tMH> because in that case - when partitions are created then there question appears - where to install grub or to NOT install it.
[17:22] <RawProduce> Somelauw: sounds like GPG needs a key to be generated, hold on
[17:22] <tMH> meskarune - of course, that what I talking about - how to remove GRUB and keep sdb1 bootable;))
[17:22] <deltafoss> please guys, just mounted a ext4 filesystem on /mnt/usb. how do i run a program that has its dependencies in the "/" directory
[17:23] <nils_> deltafoss: is there a full blown linux system on that disk?
[17:23] <RawProduce> Somelauw: probably something like this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-your-own-gpg-key.html
[17:23] <tMH> meskarune - I think AOS (acronis os selector) did found sdb1 and put the bootable point in it's list, I am even almost sure thatn AOS give no flying fsck about GRUB at all. it just _loading_ bootsector from sdb1.
[17:24] <tMH> now it's time to remove GRUB;)
[17:24] <Dr_willis> deltafoss:  'dependencies in the / directory' does jnot make a lot of sence.
[17:24] <Somelauw> RawProduce: I don't understand why I would need to do this, but okay I'll try.
[17:24] <Somelauw> Thanks
[17:25] <RawProduce> Somelauw: I assume that dpkg checks the validity of packages with GPG - does installing other stuff work?
[17:25] <qw-Russian> рудз ьу здуфыу
[17:25] <qw-Russian> help me please
[17:25] <blitz> what is your problem qw-Russian
[17:25] <deltafoss> not really, a new filesystem i created, so i installed a software from "/" to /mnt/usb which then created /lib, /etc /bin. i didnt get it to run because all its dependencies lives in "/"
[17:26] <trism> Somelauw: are you building a deb? (I just arrived so missed the error), the -uc and -us flags disable signing if so
[17:26] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: chto ne robotayet?
[17:26] <Dr_willis> deltafoss:  installed it how exactly?
[17:26] <qw-Russian> I tried to set Access through a cantilever and the program hung up began to be knocked out very much many errors 35 i would like killed this procced
[17:26] <tMH> "rabotaet", from word 'rab' - slave, btw
[17:26] <Somelauw> trism: Yes, I want to install wmii, so I am building a deb for it.
[17:27] <meskarune> tMH: ok, it looks like acronis doesn't support linux booting. so you'll either have to delete acronis and use grub, or leave it chain loaded.
[17:27] <RawProduce> qt-Russian: find the PID of the process with "ps -A | grep [program name here]"
[17:27] <qw-Russian> RawProduce, da blin pitalsya access pastavit a proga zavisla i ne znau kak ybit proses
[17:27] <Somelauw> RawProduce: Yes, I am making a deb to install something here.
[17:27] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: then run "kill -9 [PID number here]"
[17:27] <tMH> meskarune - total wrong, if it cannot support linux loading then there will be "switch" to sdb1 at all:)
[17:27] <capcook> sorry for the offtopic request. i dont know where to ask. does anyone know a channel where i can talk about irc sed encryption?
[17:27] <qw-Russian> RawProduce, ya ne vigy ego v procese
[17:27] <bazhang> qw-Russian, english here only
[17:28] <tMH> meskarune - and - I like acronis much more than grub:) is there ANY way to remove grub from sdb1, anyway? :))
[17:28] <qw-Russian> okey
[17:28] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: do you see it if you run "top"?
[17:28] <meskarune> tMH: its chainloaded. please see here: http://kb.acronis.com/content/1584
[17:28] <qw-Russian> no
[17:28] <qw-Russian> not see
[17:28] <bazhang> qw-Russian, are you talking about MS access?
[17:28] <deltafoss> Dr_willis: actually handled by TP-link router
[17:28] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: "apt-get install htop", it's a top alternative that's easier to use
[17:28] <meskarune> tMH: if you remove grub you will not be able to boot linux
[17:28] <trism> Somelauw: yeah then: debuild -uc -us -b; should be what you want (well depending on how you are building it)
[17:28] <qw-Russian> bazharng
[17:28] <qw-Russian> yes
[17:28] <nils_> tMH: you could probably overwrite the boot sector...
[17:28] <tMH> nils_ - with what ?
[17:29] <tMH> what mbr?
[17:29] <RawProduce> then find the process, press F9, then 9, then enter
[17:29] <RawProduce> is it running in a GUI window?
[17:29] <trism> Somelauw: not that you can't sign it if you want to (if you were, say, uploading to launchpad for a ppa)
[17:29] <tMH> meskarune - I am _almost_ sure that if _i'd had to install that xubuntu - I'd reformat sdb1 once again, partition it with / and swap and THEN I'd tell xubuntu to NOT install no OS loaders at all.
[17:30] <Somelauw> trism: Can I also do sudo make install directly? What is the difference between doing that and installing a deb?
[17:30] <qw-Russian> RawProduce, see http://pastebin.com/AppteuwG
[17:30] <tMH> meskarune - and THEN acronis will load sdb1 by itself w/o any problem.
[17:30] <nils_> tMH: well to overwrite the first 512 bytes you could do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 bs=512 count=1
[17:30] <Somelauw> I didn't need to sign everything when I was building a deb before.
[17:30] <meskarune> tMH: I would suggest changing grub so that it boots directly to xubuntu without a pause, that way you won't have to see the grub screen every time you reboot. but you cannot delete grub without making linux unbootable. acronis is chain linked so that it sends you to grub when you click on xubuntu. please read the link I gave to you.
[17:30] <nils_> is arconis able to boot linux?
[17:30] <tMH> nils_ - I imagine that:) but if I'll overwrite those 512 sectors then sdb1 will be NON-bootable at all. right?
[17:30] <SubjectOne> anybody here a name for a program that i can use for creating databases ( with an ncurse interface ? )
[17:30] <meskarune> nils_: NO acronis is not able to boot linux
[17:30] <nils_> tMH: well yeah there will be zero were grub once was.
[17:31] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: that means it's already installed, so run "htop", find the program in the list, hit F9, 9, enter
[17:31] <Somelauw> The only time I ever needed to mess with generating keys was when I wanted to use git.
[17:31] <nils_> meskarune: well then he'll need grub or lilo or syslinux anyways...
[17:31] <Somelauw> or github
[17:31] <tMH> nils_ - once again - if grub is NOT installed - are there zeros , normally ?
[17:31] <meskarune> tMH: please read this before you break your system: http://kb.acronis.com/content/1584
[17:31] <RawProduce> qw-Russian: if it's in a GUI window, run "xkill" and click on the offending window
[17:31] <qw-Russian> RawProduce, join PM please
[17:31] <mong> SubjectOne: you could try sqlite3 for simple database work
[17:31] <RawProduce> anyone know how to join a PM in irssi? :)
[17:31] <meskarune> nils_: he wants to delete grub because its ugly. but since acronis doesn't boot linux, grub can't be deleted. :P
[17:31] <tMH> btw. there was a LILO once upon a time
[17:31] <tMH> why don't use it instead of grub ?
[17:32] <nils_> lilo sucks
[17:32] <tMH> mb..
[17:32] <nils_> grub is far superior.
[17:32] <meskarune> tMH: you will notice I mentioned lilo eariler :P
[17:32] <Onkeltem> Its a scoff! Kazam either makes MKV or WebM. First, can't be opened in AviDemux. Latter is opened, but picture is broken and video runs two times faster then normal!
[17:32] <ariestiyansyah> hello there
[17:32] <tMH> meskarune - btw, is there ANY way to tell grub _not stopping_ for loading xbuntu? I mean - remove all other entries from it's menu etc?
[17:32] <SubjectOne> thanx mong, i'll give it a try
[17:32] <ariestiyansyah> somebody know config ipv6 in ubuntu ?
[17:32] <meskarune> tMH: if you don't want to see grub when you boot linux, get rid of the 30 second boot delay and it will boot directly into linux wihtout showing grub
[17:33] <mun_> hi
[17:33] <daweefolk> hi, I'm trying to use youtube-dl but i want to specify where videos will download. Is there a youtubedlrc or something?
[17:33] <tMH> and - the main question is - if I'll set a pause = 0 - will it continue loading without pause or will fait forever?;))
[17:33] <trism> Somelauw: you could just make install if you wanted, building a package is generally nicer though, it is hard to say without knowing exactly what you are doing (where the packaging for wmii is coming from)
[17:33] <mun_> does anyone know of an applet for monitoring network speed that's usable in Gnome 3 fallback?
[17:33] <daweefolk> generally pause=0 pauses indefinitely i believe
[17:33] <tMH> meskarune - delay set to 0 will load linux w/o pause OR will say grub to wait forever?;)))
[17:34] <daweefolk> i have pause=1 on mine
[17:34] <tMH> so GRUB is not only multiOS manager - itself it a LOADER like lilo was...
[17:34] <tMH> nice thingie, fsck it...
[17:34] <tMH> I'll have to read about GRUB then..
[17:35] <meskarune> tMH: yeah, set the delay to 0 so that there is no delay and it boots linux right away
[17:35] <undecim> What would be the ill effects of installing the Natty dpkg package on Lucid?
[17:35] <tMH> meskarune - ok, I'll tell pal to do that on tomorrow.
[17:35] <tMH> thanks all:)
[17:35] <meskarune> sure
[17:36] <meskarune> undecim: you could have some libraries that aren't the right versions. its possible it could mess up your system
[17:36] <undecim> Then I have to compile dpkg 1.16 from source, I guess
[17:37] <undecim> Because the sync() in 1.15 is hanging my system, thrashing my hard drives, and just generally ticking me off
[17:37] <Somelauw> trism: I did a checkout from hg
[17:38] <Somelauw> I am not sure but I think building a deb makes it easier to uninstall, but building a dep itself is harder.
[17:38] <meskarune> undecim: even compiling from source you can run into library version problems.
[17:38] <meskarune> undecim: you could install natty as a chroot in /opt adn then run the programs you need from that
[17:39] <capcook> sorry for asking again. does anyone know a channel to talk about irc protocol?
[17:39] <undecim> meskarune: I think it would be a little complicated running a package manager from a chroot....
[17:40] <mong> capcook: maybe #freenode
[17:40] <meskarune> undecim: http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Installing_in_a_chroot_Debian/Ubuntu  that is a tutorial, though you might need to change some setting to version / OS you want to use
[17:41] <undecim> meskarune: Yeah, but if I use the package manager in the chroot, then it changes the programs in my chroot, not my system
[17:41] <meskarune> undecim: so instead of fiesty you would put natty
[17:41] <capcook> mong: thanks for your reply. ill try.
[17:42] <suyash> hi
[17:42] <meskarune> undecim: you could upgrade I guess :/
[17:42] <meskarune> undecim: or use a rolling release linux distrobution that is more up to date
[17:42] <mun_> can the software centre be used to search using library names, e.g., libgtk2.0-dev? it somehow doesn't give any result in the software centre, but apt-get finds it.
[17:42] <undecim> meskarune: Yeah, but I've got about 72 hours of file operations queued....
[17:43] <cortman> mun_: that's what apt-cache search is for.
[17:43] <cortman> apt-cache search --names-only, if you just want names
[17:43] <mun_> cortman, is there any way to bring back synaptic rather than software centre?
[17:44] <trism> Somelauw: I see, it has a deb target in the Makefile, if you look at the makefile, it is just running dpkg-buildpackage, you could always add -uc -us to disable signing to that line
[17:44] <mun_> cortman, or somehow search using library names in software centre?
[17:44] <cortman> mun, is it not installed?
[17:44] <mun_> oh it's a package
[17:44] <mun_> installable package
[17:44] <mun_> ok
[17:44] <mun_> thanks
[17:44] <FloodBot1> mun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <magma> how can I see the specifics of my harddrive thgouth the command line? like if I have a SATA and buffer size
[17:45] <mun_> cortman, well it crashes. "terminate called after throwing an instance of std::out_of_range"
[17:45] <meskarune> undecim: you should wait until your file operations are done, then either upgrade or use a more uptodate OS :)
[17:46] <cortman> mun, you're saying synaptic crashes?
[17:46] <mun_> cortexman, yeah.
[17:46] <cortman> uninstall/reinstall? Were you having any package trouble, or just with Synaptic?
[17:46] <mun_> cortman, just synaptic
[17:47] <cortman> mun, Also, if you want to search package names, you can do so from the command line using the commands I gave earlier.
[17:47] <undecim> meskarune: LTS is supposed to get bug fixes for 5 years
[17:47] <llutz> magma: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX
[17:47] <mun_> cortman, i've fixed it now.
[17:48] <cortman> mun, great. I'm curious, how?
[17:48] <meskarune> undecim: don't complain to me about an unfixed bug. :P
[17:48] <mun_> cortman, gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface toolkit-accessibility false
[17:48] <undecim> meskarune: Don't complain to me about my Ubuntu version XD
[17:48] <cortman> mun, OH YES. I remember that fix.
[17:48] <mun_> cortman, no idea why though
[17:48] <meskarune> magma: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-getting-scsi-ide-harddisk-information/
[17:48] <cortman> mun, it's a bug. It's also used if you can't launch Synaptic except through a terminal.
[17:48] <vlt> Hello. What can I do to get rid of the green square I see in chromium browser on Oneiric instead of the video? (It works in Firefox.)
[17:49] <meskarune> undecim: :P maybe ask the dev's if there is a fix in the works. or upgrade. I don't know what else to tell you. you don't want to break your system more. :)
[17:50] <mun_> cortman, i've only upgraded to 11.10 for a day, but it seems to me synaptic is far better than software center. am i missing something?
[17:50] <cortman> mun, NO. Synaptic all the way
[17:50] <mun_> ok. i'm glad!
[17:50] <meskarune> mun_: I don't even use GUI pachage managers :P
[17:50] <kallisti> where can I find the Garamond typefaces for Ubuntu?
[17:51] <cortman> mun, Way more control. Much more stable (i've helped many people on the forums fixing broken software centre), and has the nifty download script feature.
[17:51] <mun_> meskarune, i'm lazy :P
[17:51] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric and now everytime I log in my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:51] <celina> help how do i configure java to play online games
[17:51] <meskarune> mun_: I feel that more complexity = more change for something to break :)
[17:51] <celina> no matter what install it don't  seem to work
[17:51] <TheRedOctober> Hi all, I have a pulseaudio issue in 11.10.  What are we supposed to use instead of padevchooser?
[17:52] <meskarune> celina: have you restared after installing java?
[17:52] <cortman> meskarune, I'm with you on that one
[17:52] <mun_> the major problem i have now is i can't get hardware sensors applet to work...
[17:52] <celina> yes
[17:52] <celina> i'm just turned it back on
[17:53] <mun_> meskarune, sure.
[17:53] <magma> ty
[17:54] <celina> always says firefox crashed
[17:54] <mun_> cortexman, meskarune which desktop environment are you using?
[17:54] <cortman> mun, Gnome shell
[17:54] <TheRedOctober> Can anyone suggest the way to select a network pulseaudio device in xubuntu 11.10?
[17:54] <meskarune> mun_: I use fluxbox
[17:54] <mun_> i don't like neither unity or gnome 3 shell
[17:55] <mun_> i'm using gnome 3 fallback.. but the panel is messed up.
[17:55] <meskarune> mun_: you could try out xfce4 its pretty featureful and light weight
[17:55] <cortman> mun, I didn't either at first, but I stuck with it for about a week, now I love it.
[17:55] <meskarune> mun_: xfce4 also comes with a built in compositioner
[17:55] <cortman> mun, and I second meskarune's xfce recommendation. Great if you prefer a classic style environment
[17:55] <Alija_> i have a question : there is one folder were i have some files..but if i do ls, my ssh connexion freezes..does anyone know why it might happen that on that specific folder it does not lists the files/directories ?
[17:55] <mun_> meskarune, i'll give that one a try if i still can't find love
[17:56] <Alija_> the ls -p | grep "/" does return a list of directories
[17:56] <mun_> i've only spent 15 mins in each and couldn't stand them already. perhaps i should give them another chance...
[17:57] <mun_> perhaps i'm too used to just gnome-do and awn
[17:57] <celina> do anybody know the terminal command for java? for like when it gives a long list of % complete. that's how it worked last time on other computer
[17:57] <cortman> mun, I started really liking gnome-shell after I installed Docky.
[17:58] <martian> celina: the terminal command is usually just 'java'. Not sure what you mean by the % thing.
[17:58] <meskarune> mun_: I can't stand gnome or kde and they never grew on me. :P
[17:58] <mun_> cortman, but what did gnome-shell bring? can't gnome-do handle it all?
[17:58] <celina> it goes in a list...each line says about 5% change.
[17:58] <cortman> mun, gnome-do is dead in Gnome 3+
[17:58] <meskarune> mun_: you can use gnome-do and awn in xfce :)
[17:58] <celina> it runs about 40 lines of % complete
[17:58] <luckybunny> Please help!!! it's just taken me ages to get a login screen, and now I have, I've logged in.... but I can't move my mouse because if I do, I'll be turfed back to login screen. I want to fix this while I have a GUI, but I'm limited to keyboard only
[17:58] <mun_> meskarune, hmm!
[17:59] <meskarune> mun_: there is also kupfu which is lighter weight but similar to gnome-do
[17:59] <rbennacer> hey guys how can i use UFW to allow a specific ip address to access only one specific port
[17:59] <rbennacer> on my machine
[17:59] <kallisti> so I found garamond in the package texlive-fonts-extra but it's stored in a different location from the system fonts and in the vf format. is it possible to copy those fonts to the default system fonts and use them in LibreOffice?
[17:59] <luckybunny> or if you guys can't, please direct me somewhere I can likely get good help
[17:59] <meskarune> luckybunny: do you think you coudl be having hardware problems?
[17:59] <rabbi1> "/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256" How to solve this error ?
[17:59] <luckybunny> meskarune: doubtful, but possible
[18:00] <mun_> meskarune, i use gnome-do mostly because of the calendar and remember the milk plugins
[18:00] <luckybunny> I wouldn't know which hardware, though
[18:01] <irenicus09> luckybunny: how are you chatting now...through xchat? :P
[18:02] <luckybunny> I logged out last night, normally, and then got a message repeated over and over again, instead of my usual login screen. It was something about port 8
[18:02] <luckybunny> anyhow, I got a login screen up at that time, but every time I logged in, my GUI wasn't working. It loaded, but mouse movements caused it to drop back to login again
[18:02] <luckybunny> and then the issue started affecting the login screen as well (mouse would make it refresh)
[18:02] <mun_> actually i wonder i'm actually using gnome3 fallback. basically i installed 11.10 and gnome-panel. is that gnome 3 fallback?
[18:02] <ImTheDude> How come when i launch prisem for facebook it launches twitter?
[18:03] <luckybunny> irenicus09: kvirc. I have my lubuntu box working, but I ain't gonna touch the mouse
[18:04] <meskarune> mun_: tasque is a desktop RTM, and you could use remind / wxremind for calendar: http://www.duke.edu/~dgraham/wxRemind/
[18:04] <mun_> meskarune, thanks!
[18:07] <luckybunny> also it seems the only way I'm going to get chrome or any other program is to close kvirc
[18:07] <luckybunny> unless there's a keyboard command to minimise
[18:08] <luckybunny> I can get a terminal. there's one built into kvirc
[18:09] <trism> mun_: yes that is gnome 3 fallback
[18:10] <mun_> trism, thanks
[18:12] <Jonathan_> oCean: Hi! are you there?
[18:12] <bobvdv> I have a MacBook pro with bootcamp win, now I want to add ubuntu
[18:13] <h00k> !dualboot | bobvdv this covers mac, too
[18:14] <bobvdv> Thanks
[18:16] <kpas_> how much more resource intensive is 11.10 over 11.04  - I have an older machine running 11.04
[18:17] <teamopoo> irc.newdelusion.net
[18:17] <Simon1245> Anyone know how I can access my Ubuntu partition from Windows?
[18:17] <tumppu> you can't
[18:18] <martian> Simon1245: this may help: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-read-ext3ext4-linux-partition-from-windows-7.html
[18:19] <Jonathan_> oCean: Are the there? :)
[18:19] <Simon1245> martian, Thanks downloading it now :)
[18:20] <martian> Simon1245: it's been a while since I've tried, but I did have that working at one point.
[18:20] <Simon1245> martian, I sort of need it as I can't get the grub thing started when I start Windows :S
[18:20] <E3D3> Any tips for installing Haskell in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[18:21] <rabbi1> i got my ubuntu/ gnome back in action after a ring circus ;)
[18:21] <rabbi1> so now how do i make sure that things are good enough for my next reboot ?
[18:21] <Jonathan_> I have an installation of Ubuntu Server 11.10 x64 which is freezing completely at random ocasions. Do you know what could be causing this?
[18:21] <h00k> Jonathan_: it could be a lot of things, i'd start by testing your memory
[18:22] <Jonathan_> h00k: Alright, because I've been trying to fix it by upgrading my kernel and modifying boot entries etc.. but to not avail
[18:22] <skrag> Question: Is there a command to make a file immoveable without messing with permissions?
[18:22] <Jonathan_> h00k: I'll let a memtest sit over night
[18:22] <recon_lap> Jonathan_: overheating , memory, bad disk, i'd be thinking hardware first
[18:22] <h00k> Jonathan_: I had one do that, it turned out to be a bad L2 cache on my processor.
[18:22] <Simon1245> martian, Isnt' there anyway to transfer those files to Windows?
[18:22] <h00k> Jonathan_: most likely hardware, though.
[18:23] <Jonathan_> h00k: How do you test the CPU?
[18:23] <Simon1245> martian, Nvm it is :)
[18:23] <Simon1245> martian, Thanks really appericated :) I'll move all those ubuntu files to Windows now :)
[18:23] <Jonathan_> h00k: How do I test any hardware, except for smart statuses and memtests
[18:23] <Simon1245> martian, Btw, you got any idea how I can get the menu thing on startup?
[18:24] <elzoog> Hello everyone.  I have two questions, both are related to the iPhone
[18:25] <h00k> Jonathan_: let me look for what I used, standby.
[18:25] <Jonathan_> h00k: when it freezes, the computer is still running, but it shuts down VPN, SSH, eth0 etc etc
[18:25] <Jonathan_> h00k: It's not responding to anything though
[18:25] <elzoog> 1.  How do I sync an  iPhone to Ubuntu?   I already tried this  http://geeknizer.com/sync-iphone-linux/  The ppa mentioned there doesn't work
[18:25] <Somelauw> I am not sure but I think building a deb makes it easier to uninstall, but building a dep itself is harder.
[18:26] <theadmin> elzoog: Use Rhythmbox, it does it for the music at least
[18:27] <elzoog> Thanks theadmin
[18:27] <h00k> Jonathan_: did you check your logs for any kernel panics? they're in /var/logs, I'd start there. If the kernel is panicking without being able to write a log, you can configure it to dump the information out to a serial device, which is what I managed to figure out how to do.
[18:28] <meskarune> skrag: no. you have to use permissions to do what you want to do.
[18:29] <h00k> Jonathan_: this may help: http://www.iitk.ac.in/LDP/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html
[18:29] <elzoog> theadmin, Do you know of any easy way to develop apps using Ubuntu?
[18:29] <meskarune> skrag: if you want users to only access the files but not edit or change them, make the files read only
[18:29] <Somelauw> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -nc -uc -us # I added -uc - us
[18:29] <Somelauw> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -nc -uc -us # I added -uc - us
[18:29] <Somelauw> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -nc -uc -us # I added -uc - us
[18:29] <FloodBot1> Somelauw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <Jonathan_> h00k: There is nothing in the logs, I've tried tailing them over SSH
[18:29] <theadmin> elzoog: That question doesn't make much sense. What programming language are you trying to use?
[18:29] <Somelauw> FloodBot1: I am sorry, I forgot to scroll down.
[18:29] <trism> Somelauw: is it working now? I got libixp to build but didn't try to build wmii
[18:29] <h00k> Jonathan_: it might be failing before it gets to write them.
[18:30] <Jonathan_> h00k: I probably is
[18:30] <elzoog> theadmin, Would like to use Java, but I don't care.   Seems like the main hurdle is to compile it in a way that the iPhone can run it
[18:30] <ISOcrates> Trying to install 10.10 from usb onto a new ThinkPad that has no optical drive.  Getting "can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/multiboot...) error. Any thoughts on how to get past this?
[18:30] <ISOcrates> USB has been used a bunch to do other installs
[18:30] <h00k> Jonathan_: this may help: http://www.vincentverhagen.nl/2008/08/07/capturing-linux-kernel-panic-info/
[18:30] <theadmin> elzoog: Hm, no idea how to compile iPhone stuff without xcode actually, sorry
[18:31] <elzoog> theadmin, To be more specific, I would like to write a program in Ubuntu and run it on my iPhone
[18:31] <elzoog> theadmin, What if I somehow run Mac OS Lion as a virtual machine and install xcode?
[18:31] <h00k> elzoog: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1056426/iphone-app-development-on-ubuntu
[18:31] <Jisus> I hired a Cloud server, and I want to configure a server hosting, application available which should I use?
[18:31] <Jonathan_> h00k: Do you know how to change the kernel, I used to be running an linux-server one, but not I'm running a generic
[18:31] <pros977> ISOcrates: I'd really look at the system bios closely and eliminate everything but the usb if you can
[18:32] <Jonathan_> h00k: And I want to switch back
[18:32] <ISOcrates> pros977: ok thanks i'll try that now
[18:32] <bobo37773> do newer kernels have ssh support built in by default?
[18:32] <h00k> bobo37773: ssh is a program you can install, as is the server, not anythign to do with the kernel
[18:33] <h00k> Jonathan_: you can change what kernel you boot by holding down left-shift when GRUB appears
[18:33] <bobo37773> h00k: Yeah but can't it be built into the kernel? I remember reading something about this a while back
[18:33] <Jonathan_> Well, I installed the server one by doing "sudo apt-get install linux-image-server"
[18:33] <Jonathan_> But I want the system to boot from that one
[18:33] <Jonathan_> h00k: How do I do that
[18:33] <Jonathan_> ?*
[18:34] <h00k> Jonathan_: you can configure it in Grub,
[18:34] <h00k> !grub | Jonathan_
[18:34] <ISOcrates> pros977: what would i be looking for specifically?
[18:34] <Jisus> how to configure a server hosting with cpanel or plesk installed?
[18:34] <Jonathan_> h00k: I know I can do it in grub, but there's supposed to be a way to do it automaticly
[18:34] <theadmin> elzoog: Complicated... Try the Windows version of xcode in wine
[18:35] <theadmin> elzoog: If that doesn't work, probably use a Windows VM... macs are hard to install on any VMs
[18:35] <elzoog> theadmin, From what I read on the web, I gather it's complicated
[18:35] <Somelauw> trism: I am not sure, it says: http://pastebin.com/FWnq6SZV. I can't find the file.deb that it should have created.
[18:36] <oCean> Jonathan_: hey! You can set the GRUB_DEFAULT option in /etc/default/grub to make it default to an other kernel
[18:36] <pros977> ISOcrates: wll, when I install via usb on a netbook, I set the usb as the first hard drive and primary boot device. There are two sections on netbooks. Really, anything that indicates hard drive order I guess.
[18:37] <pros977> ISOcrates: just a thought
[18:37] <oCean> Jonathan_: default it is set to 0. You have to do a  grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and change the GRUB_DEFAULT to the corresponding entry (mind you, counting starts at 0)
[18:37] <trism> Somelauw: the .deb is in the next directory up (cd ..) if it succeeded and it looks okay (also you don't need to sudo that step)
[18:37] <zoom> hello, is normal to have apache install by defaut on my desktop distribution ? can i remove it without risk ?
[18:37] <ISOcrates> pros977, i'm using YUMI and I can get to the screen to select either install ubuntu to hd or boot live.  i get that error screen when i choose one of those
[18:37] <Jonathan_> oCean: The server image I installed does not show up when I grep
[18:38] <ISOcrates> just booted parted magic just fine from the device
[18:38] <elzoog> theadmin, This site says that to get xcode running in Windows, you have to still run Mac OS as a virtual machine   http://techexxpert.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-virtualize-os-x-lion-on-windows.html
[18:38] <Jonathan_> oCean: I can only find the generic-pae
[18:38] <theadmin> elzoog: Oh, wow...
[18:38] <theadmin> elzoog: Hm.
[18:38] <theadmin> elzoog: Well I've no idea, I'm not into Apple stuff
[18:38] <evfool> #ubuntu-devel
[18:38] <pros977> ISOcrates: you sure the image on the usb is good?
[18:39] <Gskellig> the date on my ubuntu server is wrong, and I can't update it and I can't set it manually
[18:39] <oCean> Jonathan_: you installed a different kernel? But it isn't in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[18:39] <elzoog> theadmin, Apple sure doesn't make it easy to do things outside of their proprietary OS or hardware.   They seem to be even worse than Windows in that regard
[18:39] <ISOcrates> pros977, yeah i've used it a bunch before... but just tried booting 12.04 from the same usb and it worked... so maybe i need to try getting the image again
[18:39] <Jonathan_> oCean: That's correct
[18:40] <Jonathan_> oCean: I ran "sudo apt-get install linux-image-server", but it's not there when I grep
[18:40] <King> hi
[18:40] <oCean> Jonathan_: Hmm, usually all grub commands are executed after image install. Anyway you can run  sudo update-grub, this should update the grub.cfg with any image found
[18:40] <Somelauw> trism: Okay, it is working now. I will now try to install wmii again
[18:41] <Jonathan_> oCean: I updated grub, but it's still not there. Look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844762/
[18:41] <Guest29535> please acn someone tell me how if it is possible to block file downloading from the Internet with Ubuntu?
[18:42] <trism> Somelauw: looks like wmii may need some patches if you are compiling on oneiric
[18:42] <Jonathan_> oCean: Since I'm running on Ubuntu server, I should probably use the server optized kernel.
[18:42] <Somelauw> trism: i am only 10.10, but it will break if I upgrade?
[18:42] <syddraf> I'm having an odd problem. Periodically, my computer's screen will freeze, start flashing, and then go back. Sometimes, if I wait long enough, it comes back up to the login screen, and Xorg's PID changes to a more current number. Any ideas what could be going on?
[18:42] <Somelauw> Will the official repository be updated?
[18:42] <oCean> Jonathan_: it seems it did not find it at all? Are you sure the -server image installed?
[18:42] <Somelauw> That would make everyting much easier.
[18:42] <Guest29535> hello
[18:43] <Jonathan_> oCean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/844765/
[18:43] <EvilResistance> Somelauw:  when you upgrade, it'll tell the system to use Natty repositories instead of Maverick repositories.  The easier way is to just clean install, then you dont have to worry about the repositories being out of date
[18:43] <Guest29535> hello
[18:43] <Guest29535> help
[18:43] <trism> Somelauw: oh you may be okay on 10.10 (natty+ has 3.9.2 so you may not need to build a new version if you were to upgrade, I didn't check when the hg repo was last updated but that is the latest release)
[18:44] <meskarune> Guest29535: please state your problem
[18:44] <oCean> Jonathan_: I have no idea why it does not show up in the grub.cfg :(
[18:45] <Jonathan_> oCean: I don't know what to do, because I'm stuck on generic right now
[18:45] <Somelauw> trism: Thanks, I got it installed. I am not sure whether I carefully removed the old version. I just did sudo aptitude purge wmii, but I will try the new version now.
[18:45] <Guest29535> how can i block file downloading from the Internet?
[18:45] <Somelauw> Also, I am not sure if it automaticcaly created a .desktop file.
[18:46] <Jonathan_> oCean: I have rebooted my system, but that does not help
[18:46] <Somelauw> But I'll check on the internet whether it says something about it.
[18:46] <Jonathan_> oCean: It does not show on the grub boot menu either..
[18:47] <oCean> Jonathan_: yeah, I think we're actually missing a step in the process?
[18:47] <oCean> Jonathan_: you can wait a couple of minutes and ask the channel again later why the -server image does not show up in grub.cfg. Also, there is a specific #ubuntu-server channel, you can try there too.
[18:48] <Guest29535> BLOCKING FILE DOWNLOADING FROM THE INTERNET  with UBUNTU? HELLLLLLP
[18:48] <EvilResistance> !caps | Guest29535
[18:49] <Guest29535>  OK can you tell me something
[18:50] <BlouBlou> Guest29535: you want to block a file from internet? Try blocking an IP or a port using ufw or gufw (graphical)
[18:53] <ISOcrates> pros977: readding the image did the trick, thanks
[18:55] <meskarune> Guest29535: you want to block a user from downloading files off the internet?
[19:01] <SubjectOne> any body here who can help with putty and X11 ? ( i want a specific application, viewing on windows via X11 and Putty, is that possible ? )
[19:01] <blitz> try ##windows
[19:02] <SubjectOne> but Blitz do i need something to enable on my ubuntu system for X11?
[19:02] <llutz> SubjectOne: you'll need a windows xserver running for this (xming )
[19:02] <theadmin> SubjectOne: With Putty not, you'll also need to run an X server on Windows...
[19:02] <SubjectOne> oh,
[19:02] <SubjectOne> xmanager ?
[19:02] <Somelauw> trism: Thanks, wmii is working completely now
[19:02] <SubjectOne> i'll have a look
[19:02] <llutz> SubjectOne: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/
[19:03] <blitz> doesn't putty already support x windowing
[19:03] <SubjectOne> putty has x11 support, but cant find how to make it work
[19:03] <trism> Somelauw: excellent
[19:04] <blitz> it's in the server settings SubjectOne
[19:04] <oCean> SubjectOne: as said, you need an Xserver. (that is not in putty) Check out http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/ as an alternative for putty but including X server
[19:05] <SubjectOne> wow thanx a lot
[19:07] <sskalnik> When compiling a kernel module, how do I ensure that correct dir for the kernel headers is used?
[19:08] <Somelauw> There are probably advantages to the debian way of actually signing your applications but for now I will do it like this.
[19:08] <sskalnik> I thought I was passing the correct parameters to make, but apparently not.
[19:09] <pros977> ISOcrates: wow, I actually helped someone here. I usually just lurk. Glad to hear it
[19:09] <sskalnik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/844811/
[19:11] <Guest38762> ive just installed xubuntu to run along windows xp how do i make xubuntu my main os and delete xp?
[19:11] <sskalnik> It looks like it's compiling part of the kernel sources, not the module. I am truly baffled at this point.
[19:12] <SlickRickDFW> Nube here with Ubuntu... Is there an Applications menu on Ubuntu 11.1 Desktop or does  one access all apps thru Dash? If exists, how do I find it?
[19:12] <cortman> guest, if you have only just installed, you may as well reinstall it, and select to wipe everything and install xubuntu.
[19:12] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric and now everytime I log in my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:12] <cypher-neo> SlickRickDFW, No all navigation on 11.10 is done through the Dash
[19:12] <SlickRickDFW> thx...
[19:12] <aboudreault> guys.... I have a bash script which basically only do a rsync with a ssh key. It works perfectly if I execute it manually. However... If I put the script in my "crontab -e" I got this error:  key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey. What's that issue? I
[19:12] <_Marcus> Hi
[19:12] <cypher-neo> SlickRickDFW, You can install an Applications menu however, if that is your preference
[19:13] <Somelauw> I noticed some extra shortcuts in gnome when using the window key. super + r redraws everything
[19:13] <SlickRickDFW> @cypher-neo how do i install app menu?
[19:13] <cypher-neo> SlickRickDFW, By installing either GNOME Fallback mode and/or GNOME3, you can get access to an Applications menu.
[19:14] <Seryth> How do I manually install a font .ttf in ubuntu? I put it in .fonts and updated my font cache, but they're not showing up?
[19:14] <cypher-neo> SlickRickDFW, Gnome fallback mode is similar to Ubuntu pre-11.04 when it used GNOME2 with the Applications menu.
[19:14] <salander> hi
[19:14] <salander> all
[19:14] <_Marcus> Hello, salander
[19:14] <cypher-neo> SlickRickDFW, Gnome Shell which uses GNOME3 can also be set up to use an app menu as well.
[19:14] <salander> this is my first comin here
[19:14] <jjprieto> o
[19:14] <cypher-neo> Hello salander
[19:15] <_Marcus> salander: Welcome!
[19:15] <ISOcrates> pros977: haha yeah i'm the same way :)
[19:15] <steve____> hey guys! Anyone know how to allow your thumb to rest on a MBP trackpad in 11.10?
[19:15] <pros977> salander: hello. Be good. There is strong moderation.
[19:15] <salander> so how can i talk to a spesific person
[19:15] <cypher-neo> Seryth, The easiest way to install a .ttf font is to open it and click "Install Font"
[19:15] <salander> what is the command
[19:15] <nino> sex
[19:16] <_Marcus> salander: Type "/query user". Replace user with the user you want to talk with
[19:16] <oCean> nino: wrong channel/network
[19:16] <Seryth> cypher-neo: What do I install it with?  When I doulbe click it it says I have to choose an app to open it with...I have a minimal install atm, so gotta install EVERYthin
[19:16] <Seryth> lol
[19:16] <Seryth> g
[19:16] <nino> nbvcnbcv
[19:16] <oCean> nino: do you have an actual support question?
[19:16] <cypher-neo> Seryth, One sec. I'll get the package names for you. :)
[19:16] <Seryth> cyphase: Thanks :)
[19:17] <Seryth> cypher-neo: * Thanks :)
[19:17] <undecim> Seryth: To install a font, just put it in ~/.fonts/
[19:17] <undecim> Seryth: And restart any apps that would be using the fonts
[19:17] <Seryth> undecim: Yes, like I said I've done that, and reloaded the font cache, but it's not showing up.
[19:17] <Seryth> Done that too
[19:17] <cypher-neo> Seryth, "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common"
[19:18] <Seryth> cypher-neo: Lolwut
[19:18] <cypher-neo> Seryth, Terminal command
[19:18] <Seryth> cypher-neo: I'm on XFCE
[19:18] <Seryth> cypher-neo: Never touching gnome again :P
[19:18] <crizzy> never say never
[19:19] <cypher-neo> Seryth, I didn't know that. ;)
[19:19] <Seryth> cypher-neo: ;)
[19:20] <[snake]> hello, I just installed a game(Halo CE) and when I open it in wine the resolution is too high, how can I fix this? I can't see anything, my monitors limit is 1366x768@60hz
[19:21] <cypher-neo> [snake], Open "Configure Wine" and change the monitor resolution
[19:22] <cypher-neo> [snake], It would be under "Graphics". You can limit the size of the virtual desktop
[19:23] <[snake]> cypher-neo, It didn't work I think the virtual desktop is for icons... instead of placing them(shortcuts) on your gnome desktop.
[19:24] <cypher-neo> [snake], I know it works that way, becuase I've used it to limit the desktop size of several other applications of mine.
[19:24] <cypher-neo> [snake], And, no, virtual desktop has nothing to do with icons.
[19:24] <cypher-neo> Seryth, Have you used the XFCE appfinder?
[19:25] <kpas_> is there a command wherby I can backup my configuration of my ubuntu desktop  I am running 11.04
[19:25] <cypher-neo> Seryth, It's kind of like a menu... in expanded mode.
[19:25] <kpas_> for example the packages I installed
[19:25] <[snake]> cypher-neo, oh- okay, well I tried a few different that I knew should work and they didn't because the application is not following the rules then.
[19:25] <Seryth> cypher-neo: I don't know what app to pick :/
[19:25] <bobweaver> kpas_ you could make a live dvd of your system with something like remastersys or debian live
[19:25] <cypher-neo> [snake], You have to restart the application to make the rules stick.
[19:26] <[snake]> cypher-neo, I did
[19:26] <cypher-neo> [snake], You restarted Halo CE?
[19:27] <[snake]> cypher-neo, yeah.
[19:27] <kpas_> well I am gettign rady to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 so I figure the first step would be to just cp my home directory off to another drive
[19:28] <[snake]> cypher-neo, notepad isn't constricted to my smaller virtual desktop either...
[19:28] <kpas_> then see if there is a command just to list what packages I installed just inace I have to wipe my system
[19:28] <[snake]> cypher-neo, it works on all areas of my desktop
[19:29] <cypher-neo> [snake], But the window size of the Wine program should be fixed.
[19:29] <cypher-neo> [snake], And once it's fixed to a certain size it also is smaller.
[19:29] <salander> hi all
[19:29] <[snake]> cypher-neo, for notepad yes. for halo no.
[19:30] <cypher-neo> [snake], Is there an option within Halo itself to run in a window?
[19:31] <cypher-neo> [snake], If you can set Halo to run windowized it should abide by the Wine config
[19:31] <[snake]> cypher-neo, there might be, and there is a place to change screen resolution for when it starts too... only one problem I can't see where to click to get to it.
[19:32] <Night_fury> wass up?
[19:32] <[snake]> cypher-neo, hey... it worked AUTOMAGICALLY
[19:33] <Night_fury> i need help with something
[19:33] <[snake]> cypher-neo, I think it's because I turned the desktop back off... which is weird because it didn't work like that initially. thanks though!
[19:33] <Night_fury> how to get normal scrollbars in ubuntu
[19:33] <Night_fury> ?
[19:36] <mlc> Night_fury: have you changes the theme
[19:37] <recon_lap> think Night_fury is refering to the short scroll bars in unity
[19:37] <OerHeks> Night_fury,  echo export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 | sudo tee /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[19:38] <mlc> 'm not a fan from untity
[19:38] <mlc> i
[19:38] <aethelrick> recon_lap: i prefer to think of them as stunted :)
[19:38] <Seryth> I've put my ttf files into ~/.fonts, but it still doesn't work grr. Even after reloading the font cache they don't show up. I'm also doing the same thing with some .pcf fonts...
[19:38] <Seryth> What'm I doing wrong?!
[19:40] <_Marcus> mlc: I'm not a unity lover either. That's why I do everything on command line now.
[19:41] <rbrooks> hey, which live CD out of all that you know has most complete grub2 bug free etc, Ubuntu i am tempted to think is probably my best bet
[19:41] <kpas_> when upgradeing from 11.04 to 11.10 will you loose gnome desktop?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> rbrooks: any reason you need grub2?
[19:42] <rbrooks> i am looking to setup dedicated partition with live cd to maintain it
[19:42] <rbrooks> Gentoo64, ^^
[19:43] <rbrooks> and figured that grub2 is far enough along but yeah im not used to it at all
[19:43] <recon_lap> not a fan either, but can just hope that as the bugs get worked out that more options for configuring it will get added.
[19:44] <cypher-neo> mlc, Have you checked out GNOME Shell? Unity free.
[19:44] <Onkeltem> What a nice day! I was recording a screencast using KAZAM for 1 hour. Now after this time spent, I found that kazam stopped recording AUDIO after first pause!!!
[19:44] <cypher-neo> mlc, I love GNOME Shell
[19:44] <cortman> Gnome shell +1
[19:44] <rbrooks> i am sure idea will work, but it is so cludged together at this point
[19:45] <brimlar> Seryth: you probably tried "fc-cache -f -v", eh?
[19:45] <Seryth> brimlar: Yup
[19:45] <Seryth> brimlar: I put the fonts (.ttf and .pcf) into .fonts, and ran that, but they're not showing up
[19:45] <recon_lap> tried gnome shell for a bit, but think it lost me when i could not put a tootbar vertical on the right hand side
[19:45] <mlc> cypher-neo: yea gnome-shell and cinnamon is very good
[19:46] <cortman> I'm really hoping the cinnamon project gets off the ground. I think there's a lot of potential there.
[19:46] <rbrooks> is Ubuntu use systemd?
[19:46] <mustafaerhann> is there any software that shows system information like sysinfo:/
[19:47] <mustafaerhann> in ubuntu
[19:47] <Gentoo64> mustafaerhann: what type of system info?
[19:47] <rbrooks> ahh well nbd thankd
[19:48] <mustafaerhann> gentoo64 hardware.
[19:48] <Gentoo64> mustafaerhann: theres lspci lsusb proc/cpuinfo etc
[19:48] <mustafaerhann> i mean more graphical.
[19:48] <excelsior> so I'm using the classic interface, how do I enable the snapping windows like in unity? Max on left side, right side, top for full screen, etc...
[19:48] <kpas_> mustafaerhann,  dmidecode
[19:48] <mustafaerhann> kpas ty.
[19:49] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, sometimes dmesg gives you the infor you want also
[19:50] <popey> Onkeltem: join #kazam and speak to the developer ☺ also, file a bug
[19:50] <recon_lap> look at cinnamon web page, still not sure what it is exactly
[19:50] <excelsior> so I'm using the classic interface, how do I enable the snapping windows like in unity? Max on left side, right side, top for full screen, etc...
[19:50] <mustafaerhann> yea kpas i found ya very good at consol.
[19:50] <mustafaerhann> looking for desktop more graphical.
[19:50] <mustafaerhann> maybe a screenlet.
[19:50] <kpas_> oh
[19:50] <mustafaerhann> but i cant find any usefull stuff.
[19:50] <mustafaerhann> i was using yasp  in KDE4.
[19:51] <mustafaerhann> plasmoid.
[19:51] <cortman> recon_lap, ???
[19:51] <Gentoo64> mustafaerhann: do you really need to be watching what hardware you have at all times? lol
[19:51] <kpas_> mustafaerhann,  how about SYSTEM->ADMIN->System MOnitor
[19:51] <bobweaver> hello there i am having a bad day I awoke to to a computer that is not working it turns on goes to grub starts to load a black screen and w/ubuntulogo and then shuts off that is it. anyclue how to fix ?
[19:51] <mustafaerhann> excelsior did u tried compiz config settings.
[19:52] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, what do you want to monitor
[19:52] <mustafaerhann> well actually im looking good information monitoring software.
[19:52] <bobweaver> mustafaerhann, wiresjark ? nmap
[19:52] <mustafaerhann> once upon a time i have hardwareinfo software in gnome2.x but now i cant find same software.
[19:52] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, for a server or just your deskstop
[19:52] <mustafaerhann> just my desktop.
[19:53] <excelsior> mustafaerhann: yes, I looked at all the settings in it, did I miss one?
[19:53] <lancerforhire> how do I upgrade to pulse 1.0/1.1 on natty?
[19:53] <mustafaerhann> excelsior can u private msg to me
[19:53] <recon_lap> bobweaver: try  boot into recovery mode, if that wont go try a live cd or usb and report back
[19:53] <mustafaerhann> so i can send u my screenshots u can see what i have in my unity desktop
[19:53] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, but what are looking to monitor
[19:53] <h00k> !u
[19:54] <bobweaver> recon_lap,
[19:54] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  will try
[19:54] <nsd_> Hi, I'm having some networking issues with a machine running 10.04. I have an ASUS-USBN10 that uses the r8192s_usb driver, and I have downloaded the latest rtl8192 binary thing from the Debian SVN repository. I had the device working for a short period of time just fine with Network Manager, but I decided to try to configure the device with /etc/network/interfaces and remove network-manager and network-manager-gnome. After being unsuccessful
[19:54] <nsd_>  in that., I re-installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome At the the moment, network manager says that the device connects successfully, but I am not able to ping anything on the LAN let alone connect to the outside world. I should note that when I initially had it working, I had eth0 configured with /etc/network/interfaces but not hooked up and I was not able to get it to work without disabling eth0. At present my /etc/network/int
[19:54] <nsd_> erfaces is only managing the loopback device.
[19:54] <nsd_> Sorry for such a long message
[19:54] <mustafaerhann> ah sorry
[19:54] <mustafaerhann> lol i found that hardware monitor shows sys info to me.
[19:55] <nsd_> Does anyone have any idea why the device would say that it has connected to the router but yet I am not able to connect to anything?
[19:55] <recon_lap> nsd_: try using pastebin next time
[19:55] <nsd_> recon_lap: Duly noted, sorry lol
[19:55] <lancerforhire> How do I upgrade to pulseaudio 1.0/1.1 on natty?
[19:56] <recon_lap> nsd_: try ping the router , see what happens
[19:56] <mustafaerhann> nsd can u open web configuration of your connected router modem etc.
[19:56] <nsd_> recon_lap, As I stated I can't ping anything.
[19:56] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  before grub this time it says that the bios has been "shadowed"  <- video and system also gives me a warrining about the time and how it is not correct
[19:56] <mlc> nsd_: ipaddress is static or dhcp
[19:57] <bobweaver> recon_lap, booting into recovery now
[19:57] <bobweaver> recon_lap, I am at the debian recovery menu
[19:57] <nsd_> recon_lap: DHCP
[19:57] <brimlar> whois Seryth
[19:57] <bobweaver> should I reg boot ?  fsck remount root
[19:57] <Seryth> eh?
[19:58] <Seryth> brimlar: wut?
[19:58] <mustafaerhann> excelsior first u have to select your session unity or gnome not 2d or classic gnome cuz they dont compiz or 3d accalerated so u cannot use effects.
[19:58] <nsd_> recon_lap: nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-255 yields nothing, so I can't ping anything. The network mask and IP address given by DHCP seem reasonable. I do not have MAC Address filtering on the router
[19:58] <brimlar> Seryth: j/was curious if you were still on
[19:58] <Seryth> brimlar: Yeah, I'm googling now :/
[19:58] <Seryth> brb dinner
[19:59] <bobweaver> Ok this is messed I picked reg boot and now it is doin fsck  WTF
[19:59] <nsd_> recon_lap: Also the wireless connection being managed by NetworkManager appears as it should.
[19:59] <lancerforhire> VAGINA
[19:59] <lancerforhire> How do I upgrade to pulseaudio 1.0/1.1 on natty?
[19:59] <bobweaver> the drive is brand new
[20:00] <bobweaver> this SUCKS
[20:00] <nsd_> recon_lap: And dmesg | grep 819 (for messages related to the device driver) shows nothing.
[20:00] <h00k> lancerforhire: Please keep it appropriate in here.
[20:00] <lancerforhire> h00k: what was inappropriate?
[20:00] <recon_lap> nsd_ if you cant ping the router you are not connected, go back to ifconfig, do a ifconfig  ethx down, and a ifconfig eth0 up and see if you get any clues
[20:00] <OerHeks> bobweaver, you had bootproblems, so fsck is oke. please watch your language
[20:01] <nsd_> recon_lap: It is a wireless device; eth0 is connected to nothing. Would ifconfig work on a wireless device in the same manner?
[20:01] <bobweaver> !language >> bobweaver
[20:01] <mimmop> !salve
[20:01] <lancerforhire> h00k: we all fell out of one of those
[20:01] <mimmop> !list
[20:01] <icewaterman> hi, how can i disable krfb (kde remote frame buffer,kinda like a vnc server)?
[20:01] <bobweaver> icewaterman, sysv-rc-conf ?
[20:01] <icewaterman> [x] i wont need it and i know what i am doing.
[20:01] <h00k> lancerforhire: also, please keep the conversation on-topic, and observe the guidelines
[20:02] <icewaterman> bobweaver: afaik it gets startet upon kde launch
[20:02] <recon_lap> nsd_ should, but i'm well out of date with my network trouble shooting skills
[20:02] <lancerforhire> h00k: How do I upgrade to pulseaudio 1.0/1.1 on natty?
[20:02] <icewaterman> bobweaver: sysv-rc-conf wont help, right?
[20:02] <bobweaver> icewaterman,  you want to stop someything on boot correct ?
[20:02] <h00k> lancerforhire: I don't know, perhaps check for a PPA.
[20:02] <nsd_> recon_lap: Hmm, when I do that I get "wlan0: link is not ready" in dmesg. I hope google helps me with this...
[20:02] <h00k> !ppa | lancerforhire
[20:02] <icewaterman> bobweaver: no i want to stop krfb being launched at all
[20:02] <icewaterman> bobweaver: and its launched upon login
[20:03] <bobweaver> icewaterman,  do  you see it under sysv-rc-conf ?
[20:03] <bobweaver> can you blacklist it ? is it a modual ?
[20:03] <nsd_> recon_lap: Hmm evidently not. I read some docs and it says that that is a normal message.
[20:04] <csmc> hrm xubuntu alternate iso command line install is glitching..
[20:04] <recon_lap> bobweaver: well, you got into recovery mode, so probably not hardware, any change on you system recently. try a normal reboot but use esc to see whats happening while you boot
[20:04] <bobweaver> arghhhhh still checking drive for error aka BRAND NEW drive
[20:04] <bobweaver> thanks recon_lap
[20:04] <csmc> normal boot under grub gives me "monitor out of frequency" on one monitor, ok on another monitor, but then booting under normal gives me blankscreen
[20:05] <mimmo> !salve
[20:05] <mimmo> !list
[20:06] <icewaterman> bobweaver: no
[20:06] <csmc> does apt-get auto configure xorg for you or do you have to futz around w/ it yourself?
[20:06] <icewaterman> bobweaver: its a kde service or something
[20:07] <meskarune> why do people do !list everytime someone mentions a ppa ?
[20:07] <bobweaver> recon_lap the last thing that I did was open chromium and go to google voice and it said that the cert was no go so I got out of there and shut down the computer. Now Thisw crap
[20:07] <OerHeks> icewaterman, maybe #Kubuntu is any help
[20:08] <bobweaver> ply moth failed
[20:08] <bobweaver> plymouth *
[20:08] <erd> hi all. any fix for youtube player plugin on totem? GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[20:08] <meskarune> I honestly want to know why ppa is considered file sharing
[20:08] <bobweaver> so did windbind
[20:08] <erd> i am running 10.4.3
[20:08] <bobweaver> I am going to freak out
[20:09] <ChristopherNg> erd: thats a good version
[20:09] <ChristopherNg> meskarune: thats great there are other methods out there aswell
[20:09] <icewaterman> OerHeks: i'll try
[20:09] <ChristopherNg> icewaterman: yeah i know i had the same problem a few months ago
[20:09] <bobweaver> what the crap reg boot goes to tty1
[20:09] <bobweaver> no GUI
[20:09] <icewaterman> ChristopherNg: did you solve it?
[20:10] <erd> ChristopherNG : i cant play youtube video on totem..
[20:10] <recon_lap> bobweaver: try startx , see what happens
[20:10] <bobweaver> sudo poweroff <command not found >
[20:10] <ChristopherNg> icewaterman: Yes eventually
[20:10] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  nope
[20:10] <icewaterman> ChristopherNg: how?
[20:10] <erd> ChristopherNg: what do you mean "its the good version
[20:10] <recon_lap> bob, think it's sudo halt
[20:10] <nsd_> Hmm
[20:10] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  I even when to updatealternitives --config   x-windows managers    to make sure that it is not that
[20:11] <nsd_> Anyone know anything about NetworkManager and wireless networking?
[20:11] <ChristopherNg> icewaterman: I upgraded and updated
[20:11] <bobweaver> sorry about the spelling
[20:11] <ChristopherNg> simple as that
[20:11] <h00k> !wireless | nsd_
[20:11] <erd> it gives me this: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[20:11] <icewaterman> ChristopherNg: huh? i am running the latest stable version of ubuntu, so a couple of months ago, that couldnt have been any newer version
[20:11] <erd> can anyone here play youtube video on totem player?
[20:11] <bobweaver> yes b
[20:12] <bobweaver> ^^
[20:12] <ChristopherNg> icewaterman: in that case go back to an lts version and try it there
[20:12] <ChristopherNg> the lts is more stable anyway
[20:12] <bobweaver> erd do have the plugin installed ?
[20:12] <erd> bobweaver: yes of course
[20:12] <icewaterman> ChristopherNg: 12.4 is going to be lts, i am going for that one, when its released
[20:12] <ChristopherNg> yes
[20:13] <bobweaver> erd is it showing up in the drop down ?
[20:13] <erd> bobweaver: can you try if you can play youtube video on your totem? if you have it...
[20:13] <ChristopherNg> basically Linux is getting more and more popular in the far east especially with old distros like turbolinux dead.
[20:13] <erd> bobweaver: yes sure
[20:13] <bobweaver> erd yes I can
[20:14] <erd> bobweaver: what ubuntu version you are?
[20:14] <bobweaver> well could untill my lappy took a crappy
[20:14] <bobweaver> erd 11.10
[20:14] <bobweaver> erd you ?
[20:14] <bobweaver> erd and version of python ?
[20:15] <erd> bobweaver: so i guess its just me that cant play cause i am on 10.4.3
[20:15] <bobweaver> mountall plymouth command failed
[20:15] <mputtr> heya, i'm trying to install linux for the first time. I just installed ubuntu on a dell xp m1530 and for some reason it will not allow me to choose what to OS to boot
[20:15] <erd> bobweaver: how to find out what python version i am?
[20:15] <bobweaver> python --version ?
[20:15] <_Marcus> erd: python --version
[20:15] <erd> ok
[20:15]  * bobweaver turns green n 
[20:16] <erd> python --version
[20:16] <recon_lap> mputtr: did you remove the cd/usb?
[20:16] <erd> Python 2.6.5
[20:16] <mputtr> the first time i did
[20:16] <bobweaver> well I would check with  mine but my com puter is crapped out
[20:16] <mputtr> it just jumps straight to windows
[20:17] <erd> bobweaver: does python version has to do with it? i mean with totem?
[20:17] <erd> or youtube plugin on totem?
[20:17] <recon_lap> mputtr: what option did you select for installing ubuntu
[20:17] <bobweaver> now what to do ? I am stck at a black screen last thing it says is mountall: disconnected  from python
[20:18] <bobweaver> erd is it wrote in python ?
[20:18] <mputtr> recon_lap: at first i ran ubuntu from usb drive, then i installed ubuntu on hdd. i resized teh hdd half and half
[20:18] <erd> ohh ok. so my python version is old?
[20:18] <erd> how can i update it?
[20:18] <erd> i am on ubuntu 10.04.3
[20:18] <mputtr> then i restarted w/o the usb stick and it goes traight to window. i hit Del on the startup screen and it only shows windows on it
[20:19] <bobweaver> erd, here is a scrip[t if you like http://paste.ubuntu.com/844916/
[20:20] <recon_lap> mputter : boot with your usb and look at the partitions , see if windows has actually been re sized and if ubuntu in on the new partition
[20:20] <erd> bobweaver: i have no clue what to do with that  script... or how to do it
[20:20] <mputtr> the hdd is partitioned. and on ubuntu there's a drive that's called system reserve
[20:21] <bobweaver> So what do I do ? I am stuck at a screen that I can not type in
[20:21] <mputtr> im assuming the system reserve is ubuntu installed?
[20:21] <bobweaver> erd open browser let video load run script look in videos folder
[20:21] <erd> is it better to update python to whatch youtube videos on totem or update the whole OS
[20:21] <E3D3> Is it possible to install 'Leksah' in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[20:21] <recon_lap> bobweaver: it boot to rescue mode though ?
[20:21] <bobweaver> recon_lap, yep
[20:22] <bobweaver> well boots to tty1
[20:22] <bobweaver> startx no workie
[20:22] <spanner3003> hi my trying to use a usb sound card how do i switch from my motherboads usb on sound card to the one i pluged in?
[20:22] <recon_lap> bobweaver: do you have a live cd or usb?
[20:22] <erd> ok thank you guys.
[20:22] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  yup I hand them out down town
[20:23] <bobweaver> also update-alternatives --config x-window-manager  is correct
[20:23] <mputtr> i'm reinstalling the ubuntu files right now.. after its done i'll have to figure out what i have to do next
[20:23] <icewaterman> ChristopherNg: fyi: killing krfb once did the trick. session management restored it everytime i logged out with it already running. but no more
[20:23] <bobweaver> sweet I pressed the powerbutton and it worked
[20:24] <dejahthoris> spanner3003 | for starters, you'd probably disable the onboard sound somewhere in the bios, if you have that option
[20:24] <recon_lap> bobweaver: been too long since i messed around with this stuff, everything been just working so well for me for years
[20:24] <spanner3003> on i'v looked
[20:24] <bobweaver> that is great
[20:24] <bobweaver> but I have a powerpoint that I have to do
[20:25] <ganimede> why ubuntu 11.10 doesnt recognize my 2 monitors?
[20:25] <bobweaver> plymouth worked then crashedd
[20:25] <bobweaver> for like 2 sec
[20:25] <recon_lap> bobweaver: i'm thinking you may have hdd issues
[20:25] <ganimede> I have slightly customized it, with the latest nvidia drivers and the desktop cube
[20:25] <spanner3003> oh yes and it's ubuntu 11.10 i'm on
[20:25] <bobweaver> and I am stuck at same screen
[20:25] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  how it is brand new
[20:26] <bobweaver> I will boot I am going to try to take out the harddrive put it in my extrenal hardrive reader and run some tests against it
[20:27] <recon_lap> bobweaver: use a live CD, the examine the hard drive
[20:27] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; was the external usb sound card turned on when you booted ubuntu?
[20:27] <bobweaver> recon_lap, will do booting it now
[20:27] <recon_lap> bobweaver: see if it will mount, if so are the files all there, if so are there any oddness in the start up files
[20:28] <spanner3003> no just pluged it in it is recognised though
[20:28] <bobweaver> xinit: server error
[20:28] <hylian> i want to make a boot option in lightdm go to terminator. I used to do it with ease, but for the life of me I can't remember where those login files are anymore...
[20:28] <bobweaver> xinit: unable to connect to X server connection refused
[20:28] <bobweaver> ARGHHH\
[20:29] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; if you try "alsamixer" in a terminal windows, it should show you if everything is working ok
[20:29] <LostPW> hellp
[20:29] <OerHeks> spanner3003, open terminal: alsamixer  ( and press F6 for soundcard)
[20:29] <recon_lap> bobweaver: you having problem with the live cd ?
[20:29] <hylian> bobweaver, sounds like x can't create a graphical window with gdm...
[20:30] <benfrancis> I just bought a MacBook Pro 8,1, hoping to dual boot it with Ubuntu.  According to this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric#CDDVD  it pretty much works out of the box but I'm having problems. Does anyone know whether Ubuntu supports this model yet?
[20:30] <benfrancis> I get "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" when booting the installation CD
[20:31] <hylian> benfrancis, that sounds like the cd is either damaged or not being read properly... hmmm
[20:31] <bobweaver> ok this is crazy I did a sudo rmmod nvidia then startx then it starts but I still get nvidia boot slash and unity is not working
[20:31] <kriestof> hi, when I try to configure console-data I get "Unknown set of unicode characters".
[20:31] <benfrancis> hylian: I will try and burn a new CD, but I get the same error with a 10.04 CD. I'm worried that the kernel doesn't support the DVD drive or chipset
[20:31] <theadmin> hylian: /usr/share/xsessions/
[20:32] <Seryth> How do I restart X without loggint out/in?
[20:32] <hylian> theadmin, thank you!
[20:32] <bobweaver> I did unity in the terinal and it started
[20:32] <spanner3003> yes i have usb sound device, PnP audio device, and Conexant CX8801
[20:32] <Walrus__> Anyone here know anything about changing my hard drive partition table from GPT back to MBR?
[20:32] <kriestof> Seryth: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:32] <mlc> Seryth: the best is if you open a second tty and start stop your displaymanager
[20:33] <bobweaver> Seryth, what version  of ubuntu
[20:33] <hylian> benfrancis, hmm, another option would be to find another ubuntu user or computer, and run unetbootin, and have it transfer the contents to a thumb drive in fat32 format..
[20:33] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; that means ubuntu is all set to use your new usb sound card.
[20:33] <Seryth> bobweaver: 11.10, running XFCE and GDM
[20:33] <Seryth> kriestof: ty
[20:33] <derpladee> hey i'm looking for a good music player that i can easily control with hotkeys, that hardly uses any resources and that is good for making playlists and keeping track of all of my music
[20:33] <recon_lap> bobweaver: opps, I should really stop trying to help people as i never moved to unity
[20:33] <derpladee> is rhythbox the best for this?
[20:33] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  lol
[20:33] <bobweaver> yeah debian boots fine ;>)
[20:34] <theadmin> derpladee: xbmc is a great keyboard-controlled (normally) media center, might want to give it a look
[20:34] <DoctorD> Hi. Can someone help me configure Ubuntu One - So i can connect with my account to have the posibility to use the 5GB free space..?
[20:34] <derpladee> okay thanks a lot
[20:34] <spanner3003> but how atm it is all coming through the speakers on the pc and nothing in the headphones pluged in to the usb sound device
[20:34] <bobweaver> why unity is not working on start up is crazy why lightdm is not working on start up is crazzy why wifi is not working on boot up is crazy
[20:34] <kriestof> hi, when I try to configure console-data I get "Unknown set of unicode characters". Anyone know how to set up this unicode for console?
[20:34] <benfrancis> hylian: OK, thanks
[20:35] <bobweaver> I have to press the wifi switchthen do a rfkill unblock all to get wireless to work
[20:35] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; it would appear ubuntu is gotten confused about which sound to use. you might want to go back and disable the onbooard sound in the bios
[20:35] <spanner3003> i can't
[20:35] <recon_lap> bobweaver: maybe you got a buggy update that did not kickin till you rebooted
[20:36] <DoctorD> Hi. Can someone help me configure Ubuntu One - So i can connect with my account to have the posibility to use the 5GB free space..?
[20:36] <stowoda> Hi. How to remove new linux versions or set a previous one as default in grub2?
[20:37] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; it is also possible to disable the onboard sound in the alsa drivers
[20:37] <bobweaver> ARGHHH can't open rfkill control device permission denied     < I have never needed to be superuser to so this what in the world is going on here
[20:38] <Seryth> LOL, I didn't want to KILL X O.o
[20:38] <Dayofswords> does anyone know the command to see input events from the mouse and keyboard, it was like xsomething
[20:38] <recon_lap> stowoda: maybe you should rephrase that question, does not sound like a good idea what you are suggesting
[20:38] <h00k> !grub2 | stowoda
[20:38] <theadmin> Dayofswords: xev?
[20:38] <bobweaver> the time says that it is 12 42 and that it is September 1st 2007
[20:38] <bobweaver> it is 3:38  here
[20:38] <klync> bobweaver: also, it's 2012
[20:39] <bobweaver> klync,  good point
[20:39] <stowoda> recon_lap, with my new kernel virtual box has problems
[20:39] <DoctorD> Hi. Can someone help me configure Ubuntu One - So i can connect with my account to have the posibility to use the 5GB free space..?
[20:39] <bobweaver> ok I am going to grab all files and push them to my debian partition
[20:40] <bobweaver> all sorts of crazyness going on here
[20:40] <bobweaver> I am going to try and reboot first
[20:40] <theadmin> DoctorD: What's the hard part in that? Run it, register and start using...
[20:40] <DoctorD> theadmin@ that's not the problem
[20:40] <theadmin> DoctorD: Then what is?
[20:40] <DoctorD> i go to system -> ubuntu one -> and i cannot edit the details to put the username and password
[20:41] <thevaliantx> i just bought a WD My Book Essential 2TB external hard drive.  When connected directly to the laptop all is well, but when i connect it t to my Cisco Linksy E4200 wireless router (via the USB port), nothing happens.  i am unable to find the device from the router's 192.168.1.1 address.
[20:41] <DoctorD> to have the 5gb folder space on my desktop as a "folder"
[20:41] <recon_lap> stowoda: sorry, but not familiar with virtual box, but would thing that using an older kernel will cause other problems
[20:41] <thevaliantx> what do i need to do in order to get the device recognized by the router?
[20:41] <DoctorD> @thevaliantx - NAS or something like this ? don't you have a man ?
[20:41] <bobweaver> sudo poweroff   : command not found
[20:42] <thevaliantx> have a man?  i'm not gay, sorry dude.
[20:42] <stowoda> recon_lap, right now i am running the older one.. I have choosen it in grub menu..
[20:42] <klync> thevaliantx: have you looked at this? http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-ca/support/routers/E4200
[20:42] <DoctorD> MANUAL
[20:42] <Walrus__> O.o
[20:42] <kriestof> how can I set polish chars in tty?
[20:42]  * klync regrets helping someone who starts cracking jokes about others' sexuality
[20:42] <DoctorD> so...someone can help me with my problem ?
[20:43] <bobweaver> DoctorD,  what is going on ?
[20:43] <DoctorD> Hi. Can someone help me configure Ubuntu One - So i can connect with my account to have the posibility to use the 5GB free space..?
[20:43] <DoctorD> to have the 5gb folder space on my desktop as a "folder"
[20:43] <theadmin> klync: "man" is not a commonly understood term, especially by newbies, they confuse manpages and, well, men :P
[20:43] <bobweaver> sorry I do not know that much about ubuntu one
[20:43] <Walrus__> You mean the terminal doesn't have a man in there telling me how to use it??
[20:43] <DoctorD> and of course, being an ubuntu user doesn't mean you must be gay :))
[20:44] <thevaliantx> klync, if you helps you to know, i'm not gay (but not straight, either, lol), and no i wasn't joking about anyone else's sexuality (actually the correct term is sexual orientation).  but, thanks for the link, i appreciate it ;)
[20:44] <recon_lap> stowoda: you could edit your grub menu to make the kernel you want the default, but you never know what might go wrong as new updates get pushed out.
[20:44] <stowoda> recon_lap, understand.. thx
[20:44] <theadmin> thevaliantx: "man" is a Linux command, short for MANual
[20:44] <thevaliantx> ok
[20:44] <theadmin> thevaliantx: So you got what DoctorD said all wrong :P
[20:44] <Walrus__> Lol
[20:45] <thevaliantx> theadmin, i did, but i was responding to klync
[20:45] <bobweaver> how come ubuntu kills battery ? wifi ?
[20:46] <DoctorD> so can someone help me !:))
[20:46] <terminhell> no, it uses an older kernel that has a regression with power settings
[20:46] <recon_lap> stowoda: trying to get virtual box to work with the new kernel probably the best solution
[20:46] <theadmin> !patience | DoctorD
[20:46] <nsd_> Continuing my epic saga of troubleshooting this machine's network configuration, I can ping the machine's DHCP-assigned wireless address via ethernet (!) but I can't ping *anything* from the machine except the machine I'm on now (that is connected to it via ethernet so I can ssh). Does this make any sense to anyone?
[20:46] <terminhell> bobweaver: no, it uses an older kernel that has a regression with power settings
[20:47] <stowoda> recon_lap, yeah. thank you#
[20:47] <Walrus__> Er.... Any reason wikipedia would be crashing my browser
[20:47] <nsd_> Moreover, why if the wireless device can connect to the router, why can it *not* connect to anything on the LAN/WAN?
[20:47] <Walrus__> And uncyclopedia.org
[20:47] <Jax|2> hey guys
[20:47] <bobweaver> Terminhell   why ?
[20:47] <OerHeks> bobweaver, same issue as with your other linux distro's, stop trolling please.
[20:48] <bobweaver> OerHeks, I am NOT trolling I could if you like BRO
[20:48] <Walrus__> google, yahoo, wolframalpha all work
[20:48] <Walrus__> sL
[20:48] <dejahthoris> spanner3003; if you are still here, you could add the module for your onboard sound card to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:48] <Jax|2> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[20:48] <terminhell> bobweaver: the repos ubuntu uses, meant to be used for stability over bleeding edge
[20:48] <bobweaver> I am asking question about ubuntu
[20:48] <bobweaver> terminhell thansk
[20:48] <Jax|2> wowo man, what u need bob?
[20:49] <OerHeks> bobweaver, you know much more of linux, i read you clear. kernel 3.2 solves a lot of powerissues, not all.
[20:49] <bobweaver> OerHeks,  cool
[20:50] <terminhell> 3.2.6-1 is about the newest out
[20:50] <bobweaver> it seems like that and all my fans have needed to be replaced also in my lappy . Is there a way to stop this
[20:50] <bobweaver> from happening
[20:51] <nsd_> Could someone explain to me how my wireless USB dongle is evidently capable of getting a DHCP lease, yet I can't connect to anything or even ping the same router it (evidently) got the lease from? Is there a way to see where DHCP lease log info stuff?
[20:51] <thevaliantx> klync, i did look at that page on the router.  i am able to see all of the other devices on the network, using the DHCP client table, the external hard drive does not show up on it.
[20:52] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[20:52] <bobweaver> nsd_,  please open your terminal and enter lspci -nn && lsmod && lsmod && rfkill list all     then  use paste bin to paste that thansk
[20:52] <bobweaver> nsd_,  please open your terminal and enter lspci -nn && lsusb  && lsmod && rfkill list all     then  use paste bin to paste that thansk
[20:52] <bobweaver> sorry 2nd one is correct
[20:53] <Walrus__> Oh, wonderful
[20:54] <Walrus__> It appears my live USB is a bad install
[20:55] <terminhell> hah oops, kernel 3.2.6-2 just released
[20:55] <nsd_> bobweaver: I tried rfkill list, no result. The device is recognized by lsusb, the module is in place, I can see stuff being spewed out by it with dmesg, etc., etc. I actually just now got it working. For some reason DHCP just simply does not work. I set it up statically and it works fine now... :/
[20:55] <nsd_> bobweaver: Thanks anyway though
[20:55] <terminhell> thats what i get for not updating first lol
[20:55] <nsd_> Also thanks recon_lap btw
[20:55] <Simon1245> Hey guys, you know ushare if I have it connected with my xbox, can anyone access it?
[20:56] <bobweaver> nsd_,  glad to hear !
[20:56] <bobweaver> YES !!!! blacklisting nvidia did it it all works again  YES!!     \0/
[20:57] <Seryth> My audio isn't working D: I use pulse audio, I've tried killall pulseadio and then pulseadio, but it's not working...
[20:57] <lancerforhire> How can I install the latest version of nvidia drivers (295.20)?
[20:57] <bobweaver> it was because I installed it manual and the one from the ppa was also trying to load
[20:57] <bobweaver> lancerforhire,  that is xswat ppa ?
[20:57] <meskarune> lancerforhire: you can compile them
[20:58] <bobweaver> lancerforhire,  see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[20:58] <recon_lap> bobweaver: \0/
[20:59] <DoctorD> uhm. done :) i've solved the problem
[20:59] <DoctorD> tiny problem of course.
[20:59] <DoctorD> #channels
[20:59] <recon_lap> drinks all round i guess
[21:00] <Seryth> Bother, where's actuionparsnip D:
[21:00] <Seryth> actionparsnip*
[21:01] <lancerforhire> thank you!
[21:01] <bobweaver> recon_lap, thanks for the help. do you have a wiki.ubuntu ?
[21:03] <recon_lap> bobweaver: never heard if wiki.ubuntu before
[21:03] <recon_lap> if/of
[21:03] <bobweaver> recon_lap,  the reason I ask is I am going to give you a good review if you do
[21:05] <bobweaver> dang it I just checked my wiki and there are pictures missing  of me handing out ubuntu downtown
[21:05] <jhk> Hey guys, I have a Nvidia Quadro NVS 295 video card. It works fine in Windows and I did a stress test on it just to make sure. I have updated to the latest Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu. After about 1-2 hours in X, it just freezes and the screen starts getting all pixelated and everything. I'm not sure what the issue is. Any ideas?
[21:05] <terminhell> i guess, someone....commented them out...?
[21:06] <dejahthoris> jhk; maybe it's overheating?
[21:07] <jhk> Yeah, that was what I was thinking. However, I ran a video card stress test in Windows and it went fine after an hour.
[21:07] <plusEV> jhk: sounds like heat issues yes,
[21:07] <jhk> The video card does not have a fan, just a heatsink.
[21:07] <dejahthoris> jhk; you can add a fan
[21:08] <plusEV> jhk: it might be tghe motherboard to. Is it a optimus card?
[21:08] <meskarune> jhk: in the mean time, use less graphics heavy aplications. turn off compiz if you have it, turn off composistioning, etc
[21:08] <jhk> Yeah, it is not meant to have one though. I was thinking it was the video card for a long time with overheating but then it worked fine in Windows so now I'm stumped.
[21:08] <jhk> Yeah, I went to appearance and changed it to none for visual effects.
[21:09] <Seryth> My sound isn't working. I normally use pulseaudio, but I don't hear anything? I've looked in the xfce volume control settings thing, and all I see is a "Dummy pulseaudio" thing...what's taht? My other options have gone tooo :/
[21:09] <mystMan_> how do i create a symlink for a file?  is it just directories or can i do files too
[21:09] <Seryth> too*
[21:09] <jhk> Nvidia Quadro NVS 295
[21:09] <recon_lap> jhk: well, ubuntu has had problems with fan's and heat sensors on some hardware
[21:09] <jhk> Currently the temp is 48C.
[21:09] <mystMan_> i have a file at /Asset/adminhtml/layout/asset.xml and want it to link into /design/adminhtml/default/default/layout
[21:09] <dejahthoris> jhk; if you have a thermometer, you could wait until the video goes bad and then take a reading of the heatsink's real temp
[21:10] <kriestof> how to set all tty on startup like with setupcon?
[21:10] <recon_lap> mystMan_: right click on the file, select create link, and copy the link to where you want.
[21:10] <jhk> I'm like 75 percent sure it is a hardware issues so I can probably do a warranty RMA, but the working in Windows thing stumped me.
[21:11] <dejahthoris> jhk; when it goes bad, does the heatsink get hot to the touch?
[21:12] <meskarune> mystMan_: you can link 2 files by doing "ln /Asset/adminhtml/layout/asset.xml  /design/adminhtml/default/default/layout" make sure to put in full paths
[21:12] <DexterF> hi
[21:12] <cfhowlett> Seryth   I THINK pulseaudio can be invoked via command line pavucontrol
[21:12] <meskarune> mystMan_: ln is the link command
[21:12] <jhk> Not sure. Haven't done it with case open. I'm sure it is hot as all video cards get pretty hot :)
[21:12] <cfhowlett> DexterF   greetiings
[21:13] <Seryth> cfhowlett: Thanks, just had to install it
[21:13] <DexterF> I'd like to use my work laptop (windows, domain member) with ubuntu at home. requirement: when windows is active, it must not see the ubuntu disk. any idea how to do that? I was thinking about a ExpressCard SSD
[21:14] <recon_lap> jhk: here is an example of what i'm referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/113081
[21:14] <terminhell> DexterF: dual boot?
[21:14] <dejahthoris> DexterF; ssd's have a limited lifespan
[21:14] <Seryth> cfhowlett: I have a weird "Dummy" output optoin?! wassat?
[21:14] <cfhowlett> DexterF   virtualbox
[21:15] <terminhell> windows cant see linux partitions anways....i dont see the problem
[21:15] <meskarune> virtual box isn't that great on a laptop
[21:15] <cfhowlett> Seryth   *guessing* it's an empty spaceholder
[21:15] <dejahthoris> DexterF; what about a usb std mechanical drive?
[21:15] <meskarune> DexterF: also are you allowed to use linux on your work computer? don't do something that is going to cause trouble
[21:15] <Seryth> cfhowlett: Hm....I dunno why this happened, it's annoying.
[21:15] <cfhowlett> DexterF   ubuntu on a stick...
[21:15] <DexterF> cfhowlett: good idea, but the admins theoretically can remotely access the disk. a vm image might look suspicious
[21:16] <kriestof> how to set all tty on startup like with setupcon(to have fonts on startup)?
[21:16] <cfhowlett> DexterF   Ubuntu startup disk creator = USB ubuntu
[21:16] <mputtr> recon_lap: i finally got it to show the boot menu. apparently i never restarted it and pulled the usb stick then press enter. i just shut it down
[21:16] <DexterF> meskarune: concern appreciated, but its ok to use the machien for private stuff. they sure didnt have that extent in mind, but hey :)
[21:16] <Simon1245> Hey guys, can I increase my ubuntu partition somehow without having to reinstall or losing something?
[21:16] <meskarune> DexterF: if you want to run linux from usb I woudn't suggest using ubuntu. maybe something smaller and meant to be run from usb
[21:17] <h00k> Simon1245: sure, you can boot from a live disk/USB and do it that way with gparted
[21:17] <h00k> !gparted | Simon1245
[21:17] <Simon1245> h00k, I can do it directly while being on it aswell or? Also is it easy to use?
[21:17] <dejahthoris> DexterF; what about a usb-to-ata adapter and a standard full-sized hardrive?
[21:17] <meskarune> DexterF: why don't you just ask the IT department to dual boot linux for you on the laptop?
[21:17] <h00k> Simon1245: not while the partitions are mounted
[21:17] <mystMan_> i need to set up dual boot on my laptop
[21:18] <DexterF> I could swap out the optical for another hdd and label that disk the same as the optical :D
[21:18] <h00k> Simon1245: yeah, it's pretty easy to use
[21:18] <mystMan_> never done it before
[21:18] <Simon1245> h00k, Ah ok, I'll do the live CD way
[21:18] <recon_lap> mputtr: :)
[21:18] <cfhowlett> Simon1245   you need to live boot
[21:18] <h00k> !dualboot | mystMan_
[21:18] <DexterF> meskarune: company = win only shop.
[21:18] <Simon1245> cfhowlett, ah ok
[21:18] <mputtr> i guess i was stupid enough to not follow directions to the T
[21:18] <cfhowlett> Simon1245   see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/disks.html
[21:18] <Sefid_par> What is the most reliable CD/DVD burner?
[21:18] <DexterF> dejahthoris: usb2=slow.
[21:18] <mputtr> Sefid_par: hardware wise?
[21:18] <rahul__bansal> how to get information about what different modules do in linux?
[21:19] <DexterF> Sefid_par: they're pretty much all the same. get the cheapest, when it dies (usually a month after warranty ran out) get a new one
[21:19] <dejahthoris> Sefid_par; I don't know which is *most* reliable, but my Plextor 740uf has been pretty good over the years
[21:19] <mputtr> i'm happy with my asus bray burner
[21:19] <terminhell> rahul__bansal: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=modules&go=Go
[21:20] <Sefid_par> Oh excuse me. I mean the most reliable software!
[21:20] <meskarune> DexterF: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[21:20] <meskarune> DexterF: but you should seriously consider asking IT if it is ok first. the hardware doesn't belong to you :P
[21:21] <terminhell> i doubt it will be an issue, they usually whipe the drives afterwards
[21:21] <jhk> Is 12.04 LTS in beta right now? 11.10 is the latest stable build correct?
[21:21] <EvilResistance> !11.10
[21:21] <EvilResistance> !12.04
[21:21] <OerHeks> jhk yes
[21:21] <EvilResistance> jhk:  ^
[21:21] <vadi2> Is it better to have the wrap partition at the start or the end of the drive? Whenever my Ubuntu has to swap even 200mb, it *dies* for 5mins while it does it, and nothing else is usable.
[21:22] <jhk> :) In update manager it is only allowing me the option to upgrade to 12.04 and not 11.10...any ideas?
[21:22] <Sefid_par> What is the most reliable software for burning CD/DVDs?
[21:22] <OerHeks> ehh jhk no, beta within 2 weeks, feature freeze is done.
[21:22] <cfhowlett> vadi2   shouldn't matter where it's put
[21:22] <terminhell> brasero usually does the job for simple stuff
[21:22] <DexterF> vadi2: it seems to be doing somethign else, unless you run a 486
[21:22] <cfhowlett> jhk   12.04 has NOT been released
[21:22] <vadi2> no, it's only related to swap. It is terribly and frustratingly unusable when it does that. UI freezes and all that jazz.
[21:23] <jhk> How can I just upgrade to 11.10 with update manager.
[21:23] <vadi2> Swap 500mb and I might as well hard-reset it, because it'll take 10mins to finish.
[21:23] <EvilResistance> jhk:  what are you on right now?
[21:23] <DexterF> vadi2: tell me abit about the hardware. what type of computer, desktop, laptop? how much ram? what hard disk?
[21:23] <vadi2> laptop, 4gb ram, HDD
[21:23] <jhk> 10.04 LTS
[21:23] <vadi2> rightnow 3.2gb used and yet it put 1gb into swap
[21:23] <DexterF> vadi2: laptop brand/model?
[21:23] <rahul__bansal> terminhell: actually i want a list which can tell me what each module  do...i want to unload some modules , so i want to be sure of each module..
[21:24] <DexterF> vadi2: hdd size?
[21:24] <vadi2> system76 serval, 250gb
[21:24] <EvilResistance> jhk:  you'd have to do an incremental upgrade: lucid -> maverick, then maverick -> natty, then natty -> oneiric.  there's a huge possibility that things will go wrong with this method though
[21:24] <terminhell> what are the modules in question
[21:24] <dejahthoris> vadi2; the end of a hdd is usually the inside and the slowest. but you usually can't put the swap at the beginning. If you can stand having your ubuntu split into two partitions, having the swap in the middle is usually considered a realistic best
[21:24] <Gskellig> I can't fix the date/time on my ubuntu server
[21:24] <EvilResistance> jhk:  lucid's still supported, you can wait for 12.04 LTS and then upgrade directly, iirc...
[21:24] <jhk> Crap.
[21:24] <vadi2> Oh hm.
[21:24] <DexterF> dejahthoris: outer parts of the disk have the most angular velocity and thus the fastest speeds
[21:24] <vadi2> Odd thought, but would deframenting help? I know ext4 doesn't require it, but it's possible to do that
[21:25] <jhk> Oh okay. I'm thinking that it will fix my video issue. I guess not.
[21:25] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, but what are looking to monitor
[21:25] <kpas_> oops
[21:25] <dejahthoris> DexterF; on most harddrives the outside is the beginning
[21:25] <kpas_> wrong screen
[21:25] <okibi> My fresh (but fully updated) install of 11.10 is mounting all external drives (tried three drives, one ext2 and two NTFS) as read-only. Even manual mounting through sudo with a -w option mounts them read-only. I'm having a hard time searching for solutions because of google noise with those keywords.
[21:25] <EvilResistance> jhk:  what video issue?  you can ask for support with individual issues here too you know\
[21:25] <DexterF> dejahthoris: beg to differ
[21:25] <jhk> It was the freezing issue after about 1-2 hours.
[21:26] <jhk> Other people in the room just said it was overheating.
[21:26] <meskarune> okibi: did you have the ext2 drive mounted in another linux install? perhaps the permissions of the files need to be changed
[21:26] <DexterF> vadi2: so a farely recent machine. what do you typcially use that triggers swaps like 200MB and how do you measure so precisely?
[21:26] <DexterF> I run a server with 8g ram and no swap at all, works a charm
[21:26] <okibi> meskarune: My other linux box (Ubuntu 9.x) mounts all these drives without issue.
[21:26] <terminhell> okibi: you may have to add your user to the usb group, and make sure dbus-launch is in your .xinitrc exec-session line
[21:27] <terminhell> okibi: *storage* group
[21:27] <okibi> terminhell: These drives were previously mounting just fine. Changed after a reboot. I will check that, though, - thanks
[21:27] <vadi2> DexterF: I have an indicator that shows me my ram and swap usage. Opening virtualbox with chrome open can trigger it, or opening another chrome profile would as well (I had to split my workload into different profiles, because I'm just running out of ram... even with everything closed, Ubuntu uses 1.5+gb ram)
[21:27] <share> hi. just to let you know that Ubuntu didn't notify the reboot after nvidia driver update ..
[21:27] <jhk> Is there any stress programs that can stress video cards in ubuntu?
[21:28] <meskarune> okibi: so its probably something to do with permissions. you need to mount those drives in your other linux box, and then have the permissions changed to rw for all
[21:28] <DexterF> vadi2: vbox gust has how much ram?
[21:28] <DexterF> *guest
[21:28] <vadi2> DexterF: 512
[21:28] <DexterF> vadi2: used any fancy filesystem for / ?
[21:28] <okibi> meskarune: I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the idea.
[21:28] <kion> jhk try glxgears
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: dm-crypt?
[21:29] <vadi2> DexterF: no, not at all. I think it is ext4
[21:29] <okibi> meskarune: Also, why are you so cool?
[21:29] <vadi2> I do have full disk encryption.
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: aha!
[21:29] <vadi2> So encyption + io = kills it?
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: you used ubuntu's encryption or somehting 3rd party like truecrypt?
[21:29] <vadi2> I used ubuntu's setup.
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: 11.10?
[21:29] <vadi2> Yes
[21:30] <DexterF> vadi2: regular hdd or ssd?
[21:30] <vadi2> regular hdd
[21:30] <ganimede> is there a forum, mailing list, or other to report feedbacks on ubuntu precise alpha 2?
[21:31] <cfhowlett> precise|ganimede
[21:31] <cfhowlett> !precise|ganimede
[21:31] <ganimede> thanks ubottu
[21:32] <DexterF> vadi2: well, my guess: unless dm-crypt is not transparent it might gather larger chunks than the filesystem and thus swaps bigger chunks than the memory management can easily hande. but that's all shots in the dark to be honest. since you're setup sounds otherwise sane that's my prime suspect.
[21:32] <kion> Does anybody know how to get some nice desktop effects on ubuntu?  seems I lost all I had with the introduction of Unity.
[21:32] <DexterF> vadi2: checking the mailing list archives or maybe even filing a bug report might help
[21:32] <vadi2> Alright, I'll try.
[21:33] <DexterF> vadi2: or of course try and decrypt (a hassle, I know). is swap encrypted, too?
[21:33] <DexterF> vadi2: does dm-crypt require LVM?
[21:33] <vadi2> swap isn't, but I did enable zram on it (compression), because something is just eating my memory and I frequently run low even during browser use only
[21:34] <vadi2> I'm not certain.
[21:34] <DexterF> vadi2: what, what's zram?
[21:34] <vadi2> compresses ram contents
[21:34] <DexterF> by the way: encrypted disk + unencrypted swap = no use as one might have attack vectors on remians in swap
[21:34] <vadi2> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=zram&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webupd8.org%2F2011%2F10%2Fincreased-performance-in-linux-with.html&ei=XXY9T5zyIOHJmQXDs-jiBw&usg=AFQjCNGg9L0A9J1uBp936ALpu3sU0ywl2Q&sig2=rjsUDt6eWJZDlYW8hFUOTA
[21:34] <vadi2> ops, spammy link
[21:35] <dejahthoris> vadi2; what sort of machine is this? desktop? laptop?
[21:35] <vadi2> laptop, system76 serval
[21:36] <Gskellig> can someone help me fix the date/time on my ubuntu server? it keeps saying "operation not permitted" even when run as root
[21:36] <Gskellig> and ntpdate isn't working either
[21:36] <dejahthoris> vadi2; does it have any space for a second harddrive?
[21:36] <mputtr> for a first time ubuntu user, what softwares should i install first?
[21:36] <vadi2> physically, no
[21:36] <Gskellig> mputtr, you mean what softwares should you remove first? =D
[21:36] <DexterF> Gskellig: what does ntpdate say?
[21:37] <jhk> glxgears is working great. Thanks! kion
[21:37] <DexterF> vadi2: that zram.. sound completely bogus
[21:37] <mlc> mputtr: install antivir
[21:37] <Gskellig> DexterF, 17 Feb 01:35:22 ntpdate[26092]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[21:37] <Gskellig> the time has been wrong for weeks
[21:37] <Gskellig> it clearly isn't updating right
[21:37] <rahul__bansal> is there a way to get name of all users connected to lan in linux?
[21:37] <mputtr> lol i have no idea at all. this is my first time using linux.. ever
[21:37] <Gskellig> I've tried changing the timeservers too
[21:37] <smelo> Greetings channel.  Is there a Ubuntu way to reconfigure a base install? (re-ip, re-name, re-key). Something along the lines of `dpkg-reconfigure base-system`?  I've cloned a template and need to reset the ip, hostname, ssh keys
[21:37] <mputtr> mlc: antivir? is it on ubuntu software cneter?
[21:38] <mlc> mputtr: yea, search clamav
[21:38] <mputtr> ok
[21:38] <DexterF> vadi2:  is it possible that you totaly blown that zram up to max and when this one os full it starts swapping to disk and then they fight about who holds what?
[21:38] <DexterF> vadi2: you said yourself, something is eating up ram there
[21:39] <mputtr> i've only found virus scanner
[21:39] <vadi2> Well, it's point is to reduce that... but I'll try deactivating it
[21:39] <DexterF> Gskellig: google have anythign in that error?
[21:39] <mputtr> is that he one? or do i need to install something else
[21:39] <kion> jhk: no problem :)
[21:39] <mputtr> including virus scanner
[21:39] <DexterF> vadi2: maybe you have mega IO when the system tries to swap compressed data out to disk
[21:39] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: you should look in you router for that information
[21:40] <vadi2> Yeah, it just dies on this IO, the disk is churning and everything
[21:40] <mlc> mputtr: right clamav is a virus scanner
[21:40] <mputtr> i c
[21:40] <mputtr> well.. it's installing
[21:40] <mlc> ^^
[21:40] <mlc> mputtr: audio video codec
[21:41] <dejahthoris> vadi2; do you have and cardbus slots on your laptop?
[21:41] <mputtr> i'm trying to learn linux, what else should i install that will get me to learn more about linux
[21:41] <vadi2> okay, so uninstalling "zramswap-enabler - Use RAM compression instead of swap", will see if it's fine then. Though I installed it to begin with because my 4gb ram was just melting away
[21:41] <vadi2> I have a pci slot... not sure what is a cardbus
[21:41] <daftykins> cardbus was PCI for laptops, external wireless cards used it
[21:41] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: ok. is there a way i can access information from router from my machine..
[21:41] <dejahthoris> vadi2; you know, the modern version of a pcmcia slot?
[21:41] <meskarune> mputtr: the only way to learn linux is to read :P
[21:42] <vadi2> Probably not on this 4 year old laptop
[21:42] <mlc> mputtr: step by step. learning by doing
[21:42] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: get you gateway address, type it into the address bar of a browser and off  you go :)
[21:42] <mputtr> meskarune: where should i go to get reading resources?
[21:42] <meskarune> mputtr: read some command line cheat sheets and read wiki articles adn man pages
[21:42] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: use ifconfig
[21:42] <mputtr> or should i just google it
[21:42] <mputtr> command line cheat sheets... ok. let me look it up
[21:43] <dejahthoris> vadi2; if you had a way to connect one, there are cardbus ssd's you could use for swap
[21:43] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: to get you gateway address
[21:43] <meskarune> mputtr: to learn more about a program in linux you can type "man <program>" and you'll get the manual on it. try doing "man cd"
[21:43] <vadi2> ah... no, I don't want anything extra to carry around :(
[21:43] <meskarune> mputtr: to exit out of the manual you hit the q key
[21:43] <mputtr> one sec.. gotta go put sutff in the dryer
[21:43] <recon69_lap> mputtr: you could just use it to do what you like doing on computers and learn as you go :)
[21:44] <dejahthoris> vadi2; they're only the size of a credit card
[21:44] <meskarune> mputtr: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-commands-cheat-sheets.html
[21:44] <Gskellig> DexterF, I killed the ntp process and tried again, get the same error as when I try using date
[21:44] <Gskellig> 17 Feb 01:43:56 ntpdate[26567]: Can't adjust the time of day: Operation not permitted
[21:44] <vadi2> oh
[21:45] <dejahthoris> vadi2; if you had a cardbus ssd for swap, your swapping would be quite fast
[21:45] <share> I need ir-keytable for Ubuntu Maverick
[21:45] <share> where can I find it
[21:45] <Gskellig> DexterF, I am using sudo btw, I have also tried running it as root
[21:45] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: I tried but asking for password(level 15)...seem i don't have permission
[21:45] <Gskellig> for some reason I still get operation not permitted
[21:46] <DexterF> Gskellig: beyond me. you could try and run strace on it, write output to a file with -o and grep that for OPEN calls, see what it accesses
[21:46] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: try with a blank password, if that dont work have a look for the manual that came with the router
[21:46] <DexterF> Gskellig: version?
[21:47] <Gskellig> 11.04
[21:47] <Gskellig> strace? I'm not sure how to do that
[21:47] <OerHeks> GsKellig sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[21:47] <Gskellig> tried that as well
[21:47] <DexterF> Gskellig: pretty easy: strace -o somefile.txt <command>
[21:47] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: if you never set a password it's possible that someone has hi-jacked your router :)
[21:47] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: i am connected to institute lan and their router ...
[21:48] <no_gravity> Good Evening! Where does wine install its programms these days? I installed Google Adwords Editor lately and it runs fine. But now I wanted to start it again and its not in /home/me/.wine./drive_c/...
[21:48] <Gskellig> oh I got tzdata to work
[21:49] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: ok, well why would you want to see who connected to the institute's routers, it's private info i would think
[21:49] <Gskellig> wouldn't run under sudo but it ran as root
[21:49] <Gskellig> thanks OerHeks and DexterF
[21:49] <meskarune> no_gravity: you can use the locate command to find stuff. :) "locate google"
[21:49] <DexterF> Gskellig: uh.. how do you root then? did you set a passwd for root?
[21:49] <mputtr> ok phew
[21:50] <mputtr> ok. i'm going to read up and just install stuff as i go
[21:50] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: just want to see if my friends machine is up.. but i can always get all ip which are up on lan..
[21:50] <no_gravity> meskarune: holy shit, that works. that means a db of my files if floating around somewhere on my harddisk and some index deamon eats up my cpu cycles regularely?
[21:50] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: ip addresses don
[21:51] <meskarune> no_gravity: it only updates the database when you restart or do "updatedb" so its not using system resources. :P
[21:51] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap:  ip address don't let me distinguish machines.. therefore i need user names.
[21:51] <no_gravity> and where does it store its stuff?
[21:51] <meskarune> no_gravity: and it only updates new stuff, it doesn't rescan everything. linux is much better with file management
[21:52] <Seryth> Can anyone help me fix my sound? I don't know what's gone wrong, but I can't hear anything, and my settings are just telling me that Dummy: Pulse audio exists, not my sound card. Help!
[21:52] <meskarune> no_gravity: to learn more about locate do "man locate"
[21:53] <jetole> Hey guys. I'm on 10.04. I added a group and then added myself into this group quite some time ago, Months ago. I have rebooted the system several times since then and looked at the groups file which looks fine but when I start a new terminal in gnome terminal and run id, it doesn't show me as being a memeber of this group and I can't execute a program which is suid and can only be executed by owner (root) and members of this group
[21:53] <zuhaitz> Hi, I installed Windows 7 and I gave 100 gB for Linux Ubuntu installation, but now I just boot Linux Ubuntu and when I am going to make the partition it only show me the entire HD without the NTFS and free partitions, why? help please
[21:53] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: well, it's really up to you friend if he wants to broadcast hi status on the lan, should not be possible for you to find out without him setting something up on this machine
[21:53] <jetole> does anyone know why this might be happening that I'm not in this group?
[21:53] <DexterF> Seryth: no menu to select different sound cards?
[21:53] <DexterF> dropdown or so?
[21:54] <Seryth> DeathWolf: Yes, but only two 'dummys'
[21:54] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: what has to be set?
[21:54] <DexterF> zuhaitz: how big is the disk?
[21:54] <zuhaitz> 300gB
[21:54] <meskarune> jetole: can you re-add yourself to the group? maybe an update over wrote the file somehow
[21:55] <AuzBul> what is ubuntu about?
[21:55] <Seryth> DexterF: Only two dropdowns: Playback: Dummy output (pulseaudio mixer) and Capture: Monitor of Dummy output (pulseaudio mixer)
[21:55] <Seryth> !linux | AuzBul
[21:55] <Seryth> oopsie
[21:55] <vadi2> I added a PPA via software sources, yet update manager refuses to update, saying it's not authenticated
[21:55] <mputtr> this might be a silly question, but is there such a thing like using another computer's resource (in the same network) to do encoding while the main one does the bulk of it?
[21:55] <AuzBul> k
[21:55] <AuzBul> thx
[21:55] <mputtr> in ubuntu
[21:55] <Seryth> !ubuntu | AuzBul
[21:55] <vadi2> What is going wrong? Shouldn't the authentication be automatic?
[21:55] <jetole> meskarune: overwrote /etc/group ? I don't think so but I can try
[21:56] <Banish> is it just me or myspace music player doesn't work on chromium on ubuntu 11.10
[21:56] <Banish> ?
[21:56] <DexterF> zuhaitz: maybe boot live cd and run gpart frorm a console, see if ubuntu sees partitions at all
[21:56] <Memran> hello o/
[21:56] <Firebolt> Anyone know how to make qt-at-spi not assert errors and then kill your program in 11.10?
[21:56] <meskarune> jetole: no, over wrote the sudoers file
[21:57] <DexterF> zuhaitz: gpart scans disks for partitions. that win7 isnt encrypted?
[21:57] <meskarune> jetole: all permissions are in sudoers :P
[21:57] <DexterF> Seryth: what sound card?
[21:57] <jetole> meskarune: no this is not something I am running via sudo
[21:57] <Seryth> nVidia nForce something DexterF. It worked fine before today :/
[21:57] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, is not
[21:57] <DexterF> Seryth: onboard?
[21:58] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, I think is not...
[21:58] <jetole> meskarune: also, "all permissions are in sudoers" doesn't make sense. It's a suid file which means I don't need to run sudo to run it as root
[21:58] <Seryth> DexterF: I don't know....I think so.
[21:58] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, I just installed Windows 7 just for work issues (A. Premiere etc)...
[21:58] <jetole> meskarune: by suid I mean setuid
[21:58] <meskarune> jetole: there is a text file with all user permissions in it
[21:58] <harry12> hi all. i installed latest ubuntu on a hp pavillion dv 6700. amd dual, nvidia Geforce 7150m, 4 gb ram etc. dvd drive not working, hardware problems. i am dual booting with win7. so latest grub its here.
[21:59] <DexterF> Seryth: hm. try alsamixer from console (install if not there), see if that says the same. else I'd say maybe a pulse glitch, #pulseaudio might be worth a shot
[21:59] <Seryth> zuhaitz: How many times are you gonna get DexterF's nick wrong? :P
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: and sudoers has nothing to do with why I wouldn't exist in a group. The sudoers file is isolated entirely to the use of the sudo command and similar commands that perform sudo actions
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: what file are you talking about?
[21:59] <Seryth> DexterF: Tried alsamixer, I get this error: seryth@ubuntujacob:~$ alsamixer
[21:59] <Seryth> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: I'm pretty sure there is no file with all users permissions in it
[21:59] <DexterF> Seryth: talks to me? :D
[21:59] <harry12> the problem is that after selecting ubuntu on grub screen all i see is purpule colored screen. thats it. it does not load the OS
[21:59] <Seryth> DexterF: :D lol
[21:59] <Firebolt> I get "ASSERT: "interface->childCount() == children.count()" in file adaptor.cpp, line 200" when I try to run Skype and a few other Qt-based programs
[22:00] <jetole> meskarune: I appreciate the help but I think this question may be above your level of knowledge
[22:00] <DexterF> Seryth: didnt notice, client colors my nick! zuhaitz , yo <-
[22:00] <zuhaitz> Seryth, You are right :)
[22:00] <zuhaitz> Sorry!
[22:00] <harry12> the trick for now is to CTRL+ALT+DEL than  on the second time choosing ubuntu recovery
[22:01] <zuhaitz> Im gonna try with gparted and after install?
[22:01] <DexterF> zuhaitz: nuh-uh! gpart! not gparted. well, actually, gparted is worth a shot, too, come to think of it
[22:01] <meskarune> jetole: i guess its an arch thing :?
[22:01] <Seryth> DexterF, zuhaitz: :P
[22:01] <harry12> i see some output i dont understand and than it drops me on (initramfs) there, i give "exit" and finally it start load the OS
[22:01] <jetole> Does anyone know why I am set as a member of a group but when I start a terminal via gnome terminal the id command doesn't show me in that group however when I log in via tty1 the id command shows me in that group
[22:02] <harry12> what is this caused from
[22:02] <nxn> hello everybody. Somebody into helping solving a resolution problem on Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:02] <jetole> meskarune: arch thing? what? There is no file on a Linux system on any arch that contains all permissions for users
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: there is a config file with what groups users have and what the permissions those groups have
[22:02] <jetole> meskarune: no there isn't
[22:02] <meskarune> yes there is
[22:02] <jetole> what file?
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux I mean
[22:02] <jetole> ah I see
[22:02] <jetole> still no
[22:02] <DexterF> zuhaitz: sound like the partition table is somewhat odd.. or the disk layout. but 300gb, thats a laptop disk, no ssd, right?
[22:02] <Memran> oh man, Xming and putty are awesome, when I am forced to use windoze :)
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux is more similar to bsd so it might be a bsd thing too
[22:02] <zuhaitz> DexterF, is a PC
[22:03] <meskarune> jetole: I'm at work now though so I can't grep it. :P
[22:03] <zuhaitz> Gparted dont show anything .. Happen the same
[22:03] <jetole> under all Linux on all distros, kernels and architectures the file for what groups a user is in is /etc/group with the primary group being listed in /etc/passwd. That has nothing to do with arch Linux
[22:03] <DexterF> zuhaitz: with 300gb disk? raided a antique store? ;)
[22:03] <zuhaitz> no...
[22:03] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux uses bsd style init configs
[22:03] <zuhaitz> Is a cheap machine with 4gB RAM, Nvidia geforce 315 and Celeron CPU
[22:03] <jetole> meskarune: no that same rule also applies to openbsd and freebsd. Probably all BSD's and I think maybe even all Unix but don't know quote me on all Unix
[22:03] <jetole> meskarune: and?
[22:04] <zuhaitz> For me is very fast, enought
[22:04] <Seryth> DexterF: I have 2 x 120GB disks :P
[22:04] <Guest37832> HI ALL ITS MY FIRST TIME WITH UBUNTU
[22:04] <meskarune> jetole: its very different from debian type systems
[22:04] <jetole> meskarune: arch Linux used /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[22:04] <DexterF> Guest37832: STOP SHOUTING
[22:04] <Seryth> !caps | Guest37832
[22:04] <jetole> meskarune: not like that
[22:04] <Guest37832> sry
[22:04] <cfhowlett> !shout|guest37832
[22:04] <auronandace> !caps | Guest37832
[22:04] <Seryth> lol
[22:04] <DexterF> haha
[22:04] <niko> this is a Test forget this message
[22:04] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, Gparted dont show my NTFS partitions
[22:04] <zuhaitz> What happen?
[22:04]  * Memran confiscates Guest37832's capslock key
[22:04] <meskarune> jetole: yeah, it has those, but it also has a unified config file
[22:05] <Guest37832> ahahah why so many mods?
[22:05] <Seryth> Guest37832: Welcome to ubuntu :)
[22:05] <meskarune> jetole: like in arch you can set EVERYTHING in the system up in rc.conf
[22:05] <Guest37832> ty
[22:05] <stanman246> how do i upgrade thunderbird to v 10? on 11.10?
[22:05] <jetole> meskarune: Arch Linux stores which groups a user is in in the file /etc/group and the primary group in /etc/passwd. Most if not all BSD do the same. There are no permissions that can be set in either of these files so if you say arch Linux has some magical file where all groups and permissions are set then you are wrong
[22:05] <DexterF> Guest37832: enjoy your visit :D  no mods at all :)
[22:05] <Guest37832> there are mods if i cant use caps :)
[22:05] <Seryth> stanman246: I'm so tempted to say "sudo rm -rf /" :P Don't do that <--- will destroy you
[22:05] <Gskellig> sorry DexterF I left for a bit. when I did sudo dpkg-reconfigrue tzdata it did not work but I ran it as root user and it worked
[22:05] <meskarune> jetole: not set, stored so you can see who has who easily and quickly
[22:06] <zuhaitz> Ah, gparted launched from console said: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. however, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesnt understand GPT  partition tables. Or Perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.
[22:06] <Gskellig> no idea why
[22:06] <rbrooks> Guest30702, WELCOME TO UBUNTU
[22:06] <DexterF> Gskellig: well - how did you become root? sudo bash?
[22:06] <Gskellig> sudo su
[22:06] <zuhaitz> DexterF,
[22:06] <Gskellig> same thing pretty much lol
[22:06] <Memran> aw! no tomcat7 package in my 10.04LTS distro :(
[22:06] <stanman246> Seryth, don't be posting that, what if someone wreckes his os
[22:07] <Seryth> stanman246: Then they're stupid for not reading my message. I said don't run it...
[22:07] <DexterF> zuhaitz: tough luck. fscking with the part table will make win7 unhappy, my guess
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I did the partitions with Windpws 7 installation DVD, so I dont understand why happen this, Windows 7 boots OK
[22:07] <jetole> meskarune: arch Linux, also like all other Linux has file owners and file groups and permission bits set on each file for how the owner can access it, how the user can access it and how everyone else can access it and like every other Linux it also supports the setuid bit on files. Arch can't disable this if they want to unless they are no longer a Linux distro. Maybe if they become Arch BeOS os something then they won't have to rely on the standard ...
[22:07] <jetole> ... Linux ACL system
[22:07] <Guest37832> im sorry i was wondering...since i have only 1gb of ram... what can i do to make ubuntu lighter?
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, What can I do
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, Why happened this?
[22:07] <Memran> can you guys on 10.10 or higher, take a peek in your repo list for tomcat7 please?
[22:07] <jetole> meskarune: but my point is if I am added to a group in /etc/group on each Linux then I am in that group no matter what. Same thing on FreeBSD and OpenBSD
[22:07] <cfhowlett> Guest37832   lubuntu xubuntu are both lightweight distros for lower specification machines
[22:08] <meskarune> jetole: I never said arch linux didn't have groups and file ownership. I don't know why you are ranting about nothing :P
[22:08] <TheMaster> There is some test here.
[22:08] <stanman246> Seryth, lol, so I saw
[22:08] <DexterF> zuhaitz: weeeeell: before you mess with the table, back it up: grab a usb stick, do:   dd if=/dev/sda of=/path(to/stick/mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[22:08] <Guest37832> i would like to keep ubuntu...but make change some setings(graphics or so) that make it lighter
[22:08] <Seryth> stanman246: :P
[22:08] <Seryth> Memran: It exists
[22:08] <cfhowlett> Guest37832   turn off desktop effects, run in 2d
[22:08] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I dont want to do anything
[22:08] <Guest37832> yeah alredy did it...ty
[22:08] <Guest37832> bye
[22:09] <Guest37832> all
[22:09] <Seryth> Bye o/
[22:09] <zuhaitz> I dont know how, I am journalist and linux user, not programmer neither computing engeneer :D
[22:09] <Memran> thanks, Seryth :) which version are you using?
[22:09] <Seryth> Memran: 11..10
[22:09] <Memran> thanks
[22:09] <rbrooks> zuhaitz, what are u trying to accomplish?
[22:09] <DexterF> zuhaitz: then try and repair it, install linux, then see if you're lucky and grub boots that win7 or if ms is smart enough meanwhile to handle resintalling botched boot loaders. whcih I doubt, since they are a dork company.
[22:09] <Banish> where can i seek help on flash player?
[22:09] <jetole> meskarune: you said there is one file where you can see who has is in what groups, who has permission to access what, etc. You initially said it was /etc/sudoers and you were relating to my problem of my user not being in a group and you've crossed a lot of unrelated boundaries about my problem while stating some blatent inaccuracies so I'm just correcting you. If you didn't want to hear it then when I had said thank you but I don't think you ...
[22:10] <jetole> ... understand then you should have left it at that
[22:10] <zuhaitz> DexterF, But I cant install linux
[22:10] <nxn> ubuntu 11.10. lightdm.conf pointed towards scripts with xrandr. scripts work if executed in terminal. While logging scripts do not work, even more leave me on the login screen. Any ideas appreciated?
[22:10] <zuhaitz> I need to make partitions before and Linux cant see the partitions that I just have now
[22:10] <DexterF> zuhaitz: well, backup mbr from live cd and then fix it from live cd, too. then when the table is readable to linux, install linux
[22:10] <zuhaitz> instalator program and gparted show only the HD, not the NFTS partitions neither free partition
[22:10] <stanman246> anyways, tb 9 is packed with 11.10. How to upgrade to tb10?
[22:11] <zuhaitz> DexterF, any manual for mbr fix?
[22:11] <DexterF> zuhaitz: journalist? get a macbook ;)
[22:11] <DexterF> for style alone
[22:11] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I dont want to use any apple software any more
[22:12] <zuhaitz> And I just can't understand that answer
[22:12] <zuhaitz> I'm using linux since 1998
[22:12] <zuhaitz> debian user since potato, and now ubuntu linux user
[22:12] <sals> hello everyone
[22:12] <zuhaitz> I use Linux, OSX and now I NEED Windows for A. Premiere :L)
[22:12] <meskarune> jetole: there is a file with a list of groups and users along with permissions. but I"m at work on windwos and can't grep it. I don't know everything off the top of my head. :P anyways, I think something got over written and that is why your group dissappeared. if you remake the group it will say if it already exists or not
[22:13] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   I installed OSX/Win7/Ubuntu successfully  http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=212837&st=0#entry1427797
[22:13] <zuhaitz> Did I say I don't want to use apple software anymore? :-) I now want to use Linux for all things, and Windows - Adobe soft for multlimedia
[22:13] <ganimede> is that normal that in the bash in cannot do "sudo something >file" ?
[22:13] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, I dont want to know anything of apple
[22:13] <zuhaitz> fuck them
[22:13] <harry7> hi all. my frech install ubuntu 11.10 wont load. i am stuck at the purple screen after grub screen. anyone can help? thanks
[22:14] <zuhaitz> :-)
[22:14] <blizzow> I enabled XDMCP in my lightdm.conf and installed x11vnc, yet I still can't vnc to the console to login.  Anyone here know what I'm doing wrong?
[22:14] <cfhowlett> Harry7 "french install"  what is that?
[22:14] <ganimede> harry7, graphical card. what is it?
[22:14] <cfhowlett> harry7   nver mind -- you meant fresh.  Right?
[22:14] <harry7> :) i meant fresh install
[22:14] <h00k> !language | zuhaitz
[22:15] <harry7> nvidia integrated geforce 7150m
[22:15] <elektriks> how do I mount my encrypted homedir when booted in recovery mode?
[22:15] <cfhowlett> harry7   seen this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860135
[22:15] <harry7> i installed the prop driver but this hang up is hapening with all drivers i tried in
[22:15] <zuhaitz> Sorry h00k , I will never pronunce "apple" anymore
[22:15] <zuhaitz> Sorry, really
[22:15] <harry7> i will now thanks
[22:16] <DexterF> zuhaitz: outta ideas. I'd try and run google with "gpt win7" or so. my win7 here was ok, same procedure, then again, who knows, maybe I saw sth and overrode it. (overrode? sounds odd)
[22:16] <cfhowlett> DexterF   gptsynch allows gpt and mbr to co-exist
[22:17] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, in english, please xD
[22:17] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, talk me like If I was really stupid xD
[22:18] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: I'm just catching up on the conversation.  You're saying that you're creating partitions, but you can't see them?
[22:18] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, What could I try?
[22:18] <ganimede> harry7: download the latest drivers from nvidia
[22:18] <lukescharf> What does cat /proc/partitions show?
[22:18] <flagg0204> when using preseed files for automated installation is it possible to use  a custome location for a users homedirectroy, during the account creation part
[22:18] <ganimede> i had exactly the same issue the other day, with a GTX460
[22:18] <kraz3d> Okay, so if I have a AVI file on my system and I'd like to be able to openly stream it if someone were to access http://myip/file.avi -- how would I go about this?
[22:18] <kpas_> when upgrading to 11.10 and I want to keep gnome do I need to install both of these pakages or one - gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[22:19] <DexterF> zuhaitz: cfhowlett seems to knwo thing and I need to run. godspeed :D
[22:19] <dejahthoris> kraz3d; just set up apache
[22:19] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, Well, I am a Linux user, and I -need- Windows 7 for my work, ok, then I installed Windows 7 and used Windows 7 partition program (from the installer) and left free 100gB for Linux, now Linux Ubuntu installer cant see my partitions, not NTFS neither free partition so I cant install, and If I install I'll loose Win7
[22:20] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   first: gptscyh is a utility commonly used by multibooters for installing OSX and Ubuntu on the same HDD.  It addresses the different bootup structure.  sudo apt-get install to get gptsync.  Then you invoke it at the command line.  IT REWRITES THE MBR...
[22:20] <lukescharf> So, you're seeing this from the LiveCD?
[22:21] <lukescharf> So, you're seeing this from LiveCD or Installer -- rather than from a running Linux system?
[22:21] <sals> is there on this server PHP related channel?
[22:21] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, yes
[22:21] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, I want to install Linux with Windows in the same machine, I have Win7 and now I cant install Linux because I cant see partitions, so If I change that Ill loose data
[22:21] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Does your system have a RAID controller?
[22:21] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; if you've got the live cd running, what happens if you bring up a terminal windows and type "fdisk /dev/da0"
[22:21] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   I created USB ubuntu, installed gptsync, sync'd my HDD and haven't had  boot problem since.
[22:22] <cypher-neo> cfhowlett, Does gptscyh work for Ubuntu + Windows installs as well?
[22:22] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, is that in reposotories?
[22:22] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: You're setting a dual-boot machine.  The Windows installation is done, and you're working on the Linux installation?
[22:22] <kellyanne> Whats wrong with working at home? Are you threathened? my sister-inlaw makes $46 every hour on the computer. She has been out of work for 7 months but last month her pay was $5203 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this google link..  http://tinyurl.com/7ftokq3
[22:22] <cfhowlett> windows on GUID/GPT?  *SHOULD* work
[22:22] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; sorry I meant ad0
[22:22] <cypher-neo> cfhowlett, Also, I don't see gptscyh in the repositories
[22:22] <zuhaitz> hey
[22:23] <zuhaitz> I can see partitions with fdisk
[22:23] <meskarune> don't spam kellyanne
[22:23] <zuhaitz> fdisk /dev/sda and I have 2 partitions
[22:23] <zuhaitz> NTFS
[22:23] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   gptsync in in the universe repos
[22:23] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, is normal that fdisk can see the partitions and not gparted?
[22:23] <ipso>  I just recently upgraded KVM in Ubuntu and when I try to start one of my Windows VMs (works fine with a Linux VM) I get the error: pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-e1000.rom" however the file exists here:  /usr/share/qemu/pxe-e1000.bin . Anyone know how I can fix this?
[22:24] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   not in my experience...
[22:24] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; as long as fdisk can see the partitions, you can still install
[22:24] <zuhaitz> dejahthoris, gparted cant see partitions
[22:24] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; you can use fdisk to create the partitions
[22:24] <zuhaitz> no
[22:24] <zuhaitz> DOS Compatibility flag is set (DEPRECATED!)
[22:25] <lukescharf> (Zuhaitz: As an aside, I prefer to use VirtualBox and CrossoverOffice for Windows-only apps.  Still want to help you get the dual-boot system running, though.)
[22:25] <zuhaitz> that is fdisk when I write "c"
[22:25] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; yes you can create partition(s) with fdisk
[22:25] <harry7> ganimede: can you tell me how to install the latest drivers from nvidia? i have currently 280.13
[22:25] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, editing and rendering FULL HD video in a virtual machine is ... a bad option :)
[22:25] <ganimede> i have 290
[22:25] <zuhaitz> dejahthoris, fdisk dont let me:
[22:25] <zuhaitz> DOS Compatibility flag is set (DEPRECATED!)
[22:25] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   agreed
[22:25] <ganimede> let me see if i still have the page
[22:25] <zuhaitz> anyway fdisk can see the 2 NTFS and gparted cant
[22:26] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; you can still create a partition despite it giving that warning
[22:26] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Indeed -- I didn't realize that was your use-case.
[22:27] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; fine then. don't belive me and never install ubuntu
[22:27] <zuhaitz> i made new partition
[22:27] <zuhaitz> an extended partition
[22:28] <zuhaitz> fdisk now find 2 NTFS and new partition and gparted cant
[22:28] <zuhaitz> :(
[22:28] <meskarune> harry7: you can download the latest drivesr from nvidia's website: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and then compile them using the readme file inside the archive
[22:28] <lukescharf> zuhaits: Do you see the primary NTFS partition that holds your Windows system?
[22:28] <|Anthony|> silly question... What do i need to do to plug my desktop into my laptop so i can get internet access on the desktop? The laptop connects to a wireless router, but i don't have long enough ethernet cable
[22:29] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, only in fdisk not in gparted
[22:29] <lukescharf> The Ubuntu LiveCD installer can partition the empty space.
[22:29] <zuhaitz> is beacuse the GPT and MBR ?
[22:29] <lukescharf> It's a little bit basic, but you don't have to pre-create the partitions for it.
[22:29] <zuhaitz> I dont have idea of waht that are xD
[22:29] <harry7> cfhowlett:  i read the post you gave me. it instructs me to see the boot in verbose mode while it loads the OS, so to understand what hapens and what hangs up. but ive been able to to that by choosing ubuntu recovery and see that there is something wrong with "ATA link is slow (error 16)"
[22:29] <meskarune> |Anthony|: you could buy a wifi card for you desktop computer
[22:30] <cfhowlett> harry7   remind me of your problem?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, installer cant see any partition, there are 3, and it shows me HD like empty
[22:30] <OerHeks> zuhaitz, is it a Sata disk, and bios set to IDE-modus ?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> I cant see NTFS and the new one I created with fdisk
[22:30] <cfhowlett> harry7   nevermind pink login right?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, dont know
[22:30] <|Anthony|> meskarune, truth be told, i'm bringing my box to a friends house right now.
[22:30] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, should I reboot and take a look?
[22:30] <harry7> i choose ubuntu on grub screen and it wont load the OS. i am stuck on the purple screen
[22:30] <OerHeks> zuhaitz, set it to AHCI, and you be fine
[22:30] <|Anthony|> so i don't have time to get a wifi card
[22:30] <harry7> all i can do is CTRL+ALT+DEL
[22:30] <ganimede> cannot find it anymore, harry7
[22:31] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: This might have been covered in parts of the discussion that I'm not following (I'm trying to do my own work, too), but what kind of disklabel are you using?
[22:31] <lukescharf> I guess you said GPT
[22:32] <harry7> so i am stuck with the purple screen of death
[22:32] <Wargasm> harry7: CTRL+ALT+F1?
[22:32] <zuhaitz> yes GPT
[22:32] <ganimede> however, i do remember having had to do "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current" before running the new setup, NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run
[22:32] <cfhowlett> harry7   more research needed - seems to be a hardware/kernel conflict...
[22:33] <cfhowlett> Harry7 are you dual booting
[22:33] <harry7> after i am on the (initramfs) i give "exit" and than it starts to load the OS
[22:33] <ganimede> (use 32 or 64 bit version according to your system)
[22:33] <harry7> yes i am dual booting with win7
[22:34] <nxn> harry7: do you end up in the login screen or the one before it?
[22:34] <meskarune> |Anthony|: I guess you could plus an ethernet into your laptop and do internet sharing... http://www.articles4ever.com/communications/broadband-internet/internet-sharing-using-a-linux-box-5841.htm
[22:34] <harry7> nxn : i am stuck at the purple screen. i think its before the login
[22:34] <cfhowlett> harry7   boot windows/accessories/system utilities/system info: get the specs on your HDD, i.e. ATA, SATA, etc.  reboot ubuntu and make sure you matched those settings
[22:34] <kpas_> when upgrading to 11.10 and I want to keep gnome do I need to install both of these pakages or one - gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[22:35] <harry7> Wargasm: yes i can go to a TTY.. but than what?
[22:35] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: This document (intended for Mac OS X Boot Camp users) has some information about how to use the Ubuntu installer with GPT:
[22:35] <lukescharf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[22:35] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, hey it is IDE Mode, but there is no AHCI mode, should I remove Onboard SATA Controller from Bios?
[22:36] <lukescharf> Should be able to cherry-pick the right parts out of the document fairly easily -- it looks like the relevant part starts around the first screenshot.
[22:36] <zuhaitz> Why is GPT and no MBR?
[22:36] <Wargasm> harry7 well, you said you were stuck at a purple screen of death so I was wondering if it was locked or not
[22:36] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: I was going to ask you the same question.  What kind of hardware are you using?
[22:36] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   gpt and mbr are different partitioning schemes.  gpt = apple, mbr = windows/default buntu
[22:37] <zuhaitz> Why I have GPT one?
[22:37] <harry7> wargasm: right now i am on the normal GUI ubuntu
[22:37] <|Anthony|> thanks meskarune... that was along the lines of what i was looking for
[22:37] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: here's what Microsoft has to say about GPT:
[22:37] <lukescharf> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
[22:37] <lukescharf> Gotta update my Windows 7 knowledge and see if it's the default for Windows 7 installations now.
[22:38] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/gdisk.8.html
[22:38] <lukescharf> Er, that article is what Microsoft has to say about Windows 7 and GPT.  They seem to be pro-GPT.
[22:38] <derkling> \j #beagleboard
[22:39] <harry7> cfhowlett:  as i remember my hdd its a ata 200gb partitioned in 3 partitions. win7ntfs C+D, and ubuntu xt4
[22:39] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, How can I put it into MBR?
[22:39] <zuhaitz> xD
[22:39] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: how much do you care about your existing Windows 7 installation?
[22:39] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu 11.10/64 Server.  Can't get the system to halt all the way.  Halt command makes it up to the point where on the console it states that the system has halted.  Yet the server is still on.  I'm able to halt with a linux live cd.
[22:40] <cfhowlett> Harry7 AND a Windows Recovery Partition, right?
[22:40] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: If you're put a lot of effort into it, then the easiest way to make the change would not be the correct solution.
[22:40] <Thecle669_Unarme> Bonsoir a tous
[22:40] <harry7> cfhowlett:  now that one is gone.
[22:41] <harry7> cfhowlett: i didnt want to let all those gigs for win
[22:41] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, why?
[22:41] <zuhaitz> I dont want to know anymore of GPT XD
[22:41] <lukescharf> Zuhairz: Oh, it looks like you can change it from within Windows?
[22:41] <lukescharf> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26203-convert-gpt-disk-mbr-disk.html
[22:41] <lukescharf> Not sure if it applies to boot disks.
[22:41] <cfhowlett> harry7   so your buntu HDD settings are ATA?  See Ubuntu Disk Utilities
[22:41] <harry7> ok
[22:41] <elektriks> this doc doesnt say anything about how to mount an encrypted home dir from the console.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome    What do I do?
[22:42] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, that seems to sound nice xD
[22:42] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: Before finding the post that I just sent you, I thought the easiest way to change it was to clobber the partition table and start over.  Changing it on a running system requires a bit of slight-of-hand, but it can be done.
[22:43] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, the last link you gave me is nice, :D
[22:43] <zuhaitz> you are nice :D
[22:44] <_Marcus> Hello, I am getting this error when doing "sudo apt-get update": "E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." Why am I getting this? How can I fix it?
[22:44] <harry7> cfhowlett: omg i dont have disk utility
[22:44] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate fil
[22:44] <harry7> have to install it but my hdd is ata
[22:44] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Thanks!  But let's make sure it works before getting too excited -- there are a number of operations in Windows disk-management world that you can do on any disk except the boot disk, and this could be one of them.
[22:45] <cortman> Marcus, which ones failed to download?
[22:45] <cfhowlett> harry7   you have it, but it's not obvious.  Ask someone using your version of buntu - I only boot LTS so I'm on 10.04
[22:45] <harry7> its a mes with this unity
[22:46] <_Marcus> cortman: It said "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_universe_source_Sources   Hash Sum mismatch"
[22:46] <dRounse> is a celeron d powerful enough for a home/file server running ubuntu server
[22:46] <cortman> _Marcus, run "sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/sources/*" and then run apt-get update
[22:47] <harry7> cfhowlett: i found it
[22:47] <_Marcus> cortman: It said "rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/sources/*': no such file or directory"
[22:47] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate file, Please give inputs
[22:48] <harry7> cfhowlett:  my hdd is 200gb, disk is healthy,location Port 1 of SATA host adapter, Connection ATA
[22:49] <nxn> .xprofile does not do anything. Any ideas?
[22:49] <cfhowlett> harry7   OK then, we now know that buntu correctly ID'd the HDD.  That's good.  Sadly, it also means IDK what the heck is going on with your box.  Sorry.  Plz ask the channel again...
[22:50] <cortman> _Marcus, urgggh. Long day. Try /var/lib/apt/lists
[22:50] <dRounse> ! | ubottu
[22:51] <zuhaitz> lukescharf,
[22:51] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, That tool of windows 7 have options to convert to dynamic and GPT but not MBR
[22:52] <harry7> cfhowlett: when i boot on 11.10 it hang on the purple screen. CTRL+ALT+DEL and than i try ubuntu recovery. after i see a lot of (ata slow to respond error 16 ) it gives up and throws me on i(initramfs). from there i do "exit" and than it starts to load the OS.
[22:52] <_Marcus> cortman: It's hanging. It says "99% [Waiting for headers]" and is hanging.
[22:52] <harry7> any help appreciated
[22:52] <cortman> Marcus, apt-get update is?
[22:52] <_Marcus> Ah there is goes
[22:52] <harry7> when i boot on 11.10 it hang on the purple screen. CTRL+ALT+DEL and than i try ubuntu recovery. after i see a lot of (ata slow to respond error 16 ) it gives up and throws me on i(initramfs). from there i do "exit" and than it starts to load the OS.
[22:52] <_Marcus> it*
[22:53] <psusi> harry7, sounds like you may have a bad drive... open the disk utility and check the SMART status
[22:53] <harry7> psusi: it says DIsk is healthy
[22:53] <harry7> in green
[22:53] <psusi> harry7, hrm.. you might want to run the long self test just in case
[22:54] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone know a good front end for pulseaudio networking?  In 10.04 I used padevchooser, which appears to not be available in current and upcoming releases.
[22:54] <psusi> harry7, and check the output of dmesg for errors
[22:54] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate file, Please give inputs
[22:54] <harry7> ok
[22:54] <arun_india> @harry : can u suggest something
[22:54] <cortman> arun_india, easy enough- post on the forums for better success
[22:54] <iceroot> arun_india: #bash
[22:55] <arun_india> thanks
[22:55] <stanman246_> how do i get lightning to be in dutch, like thunderbird?
[22:56] <kaiowas> yay, after some tries.. i finally successfully installed ubuntu!
[22:56] <_Marcus> kaiowas: Nice
[22:57] <nxn> Has anybody ever really overcome the problem with setting undetected resolutions? Reading the forum for two days, tried the three solutions proposed to be working unsuccesfully. Any ideas?
[22:57] <harry7> psusi: do you want to paste the output of dmesg on pastebin?
[22:57] <cortman> Marcus, that do it for ya?
[22:57] <harry7> psusi: the file is long
[22:57] <kaiowas> Now.. Is there someway i can fix so that my trackpad works like it does in OSX? I use a Macbook Pro. I want the two finger scrolls function.
[22:57] <psusi> harry7, sure
[22:57] <tumppu> kaiowas go to mouse settings
[22:58] <tumppu> and there "enable two-finger scrolling"
[22:58] <_Marcus> cortman: "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oniric-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[22:58] <cortman> Marcus
[22:58] <cortman> hm
[22:58] <tumppu> system settings, pointing device tms
[22:58] <cortman> _Marcus, I have to sign off. Make a post on the forums and we'll pick it up from there.
[22:58] <kaiowas> tumppu, thank you
[22:59] <_Marcus> cortman: The apt isn't that bad right now, as I already have the software I need.
[22:59] <h00k> !gpgerror | _Marcus
[22:59] <h00k> hmmm
[22:59] <_Marcus> !gpgerror | _Marcus
[22:59] <h00k> !gpgerr | _Marcus
[23:00] <h00k> there we go.
[23:00] <tonton-flinqueri> bonsoir
[23:00] <h00k> !fr | tonton-flinqueri
[23:00] <_Marcus> It's the default Ubuntu repositories though. us.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:00] <meskarune> kaiowas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[23:01] <harry7> psusi: i got this two lines that might be interesting
[23:01] <harry7>   162.424794] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[23:01] <harry7> [  167.708477] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[23:01] <harry7> psusi: all the rest seems no error
[23:01] <tonton-flinqueri> hello
[23:01] <_Marcus> Hi
[23:02] <harry7> psusi: cause i can tell that there is something that prevent this os to load. as soon as it unblocks itself i can see the hdd led light iluminated and that means the OS is loading
[23:04] <harry7> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845114/
[23:07] <MeXTuX> what is the best choice for me?? I have a P4 (3.2 GHz), Motherboard P4M900-M4 with 3 GB RAM. Ubuntu 11.10 or Xubuntu 11.10???
[23:07] <_Marcus> MeXTuX: This isn't related to your question but, please don't include more than one question mark if not needed.
[23:07] <dejahthoris> MeXTuX; that just depends on whether you like unity or xfce better
[23:07] <MeXTuX> I like Unity
[23:08] <_Marcus> Then get Ubuntu 11.10
[23:08] <Guest19629> MeXTuX, xubuntu will be faster, but Unity should do fine.
[23:08] <Guest19629> who's the admin here?
[23:08] <MeXTuX> Does Unity demand lots of video resources??? I don't have a fancy video card
[23:09] <dejahthoris> MeXTuX; it requires more than xfce
[23:09] <kaiowas> ah, spotify installed.. now i can work normally.
[23:10] <geoffw8> err hey All
[23:10] <geoffw8> I was wondering if you could help
[23:11] <geoffw8> I'm about to order a ubuntu 10.4 server for a rails app, but I'm not sure if I should order 64bit or 32bit
[23:11] <geoffw8> I don't know much about 64bit, in my head its still "new"
[23:11] <geoffw8> I know nothing about this,
[23:11] <_Marcus> geoffw8: There's not much difference between the two
[23:11] <geoffw8> I was wonering if someone could point me in the right direction?
[23:11] <geoffw8> ok, so 64bit would be ok
[23:12] <Gentoo64> use 64 bit
[23:12] <geoffw8> no software incompatibility?
[23:12] <Gentoo64> if its not really old
[23:12] <geoffw8> etc etc
[23:12] <_Marcus> geoffw8: Just some programs are for 32 bit and some are for 64.
[23:12] <dejahthoris> geoffw8; will it have more than 4gb ram?
[23:12] <geoffw8> 32gb ;)
[23:12] <geoffw8> ok, cool
[23:12] <_Marcus> Then get 64 bit
[23:12] <geoffw8> its running rails/mysql
[23:12] <dejahthoris> geoffw8; over 4gb and you need 64
[23:12] <geoffw8> cool, thanks y'all
[23:12] <geoffw8> ok great, thanks for the pointer dejahthoris
[23:12] <dlentz> dejahthoris, there is the pae kernel
[23:12] <Infernal> Hello. Does anyone know why wont my flash drive and external hard rive wont mount. Ubuntu 11.10, reinstalled 2h ago, installed LAMP, Quassel, Skype.
[23:12] <geoffw8> I didn't know this place existed, I'm running ubuntu on my netbook
[23:12] <geoffw8> think I'll stay
[23:13] <geoffw8> (thanks for your help all)
[23:13] <kaiowas> It feels like my internet is faster in Ubuntu.. downloading files etc.
[23:13] <Gentoo64> kaiowas, probably placebo
[23:13] <Gentoo64> :)
[23:14] <Infernal> Never the less, its just cool :P
[23:14] <kaiowas> in osx im usually around 1.8mb/s. Here im at 2.3-2.4
[23:14] <_Marcus> What is the Alternate version of Ubuntu?
[23:14] <_Marcus> Like ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[23:14] <Gentoo64> _Marcus, just a different installer afaik
[23:14] <Gentoo64> not proper graphical
[23:15] <_Marcus> Gentoo64: So text installer?
[23:15] <Gentoo64> yea
[23:15] <_Marcus> Great
[23:15] <Gentoo64> its good for lower ram systems
[23:17] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: Bummer about not being able to convert back to MBR.
[23:17] <lukescharf> I'll see if I can Google up an alternative.
[23:17] <lukescharf> But my workday is ending, so I may have to run before I can finish up.
[23:18] <lukescharf> (Wife and kid are expecting me.)
[23:18] <psusi> harry7, you didn't get the whole thing pasted... try just pasting from /var/log/kern.log, but the error you mentioned certainly sounds like the problem is a bad drive
[23:19] <harry7> psusi: if this is the case, what can help me?
[23:20] <dejahthoris> harry7; it could just be flawed driver support for your harddrive controller
[23:21] <harry7> dejahthoris : any solution or fix?
[23:22] <harry7> dejahthoris: win7 its ok and older versions of ubuntu
[23:22] <harry7> before 10.04
[23:22] <dejahthoris> harry7; that proves it's the hdd controller driver
[23:23] <harry7> dejahthoris: so i should go and install 7.04? :)
[23:23] <dejahthoris> harry7; no, but you could try to force a different driver
[23:24] <harry7> dejahthoris: how ? are you willing to try with me?
[23:25] <harry7> dejahthoris: we can try, i dont have anything to worry if something goes wrong. i stick usb flash and reinstall it again
[23:25] <neohippie> hi, i've created a group and i have added my user to the group using 'sudo usermod -aG group username' but when i type 'groups' I don't show as a member of the group
[23:26] <dejahthoris> harry7; what did your dmesg say about the hdd controller it detected?
[23:26] <harry7> dejahthoris: i am going to paste full dmesg now on pastebin.
[23:27] <OerHeks> harry7, i have seen the log, what type Nvidia do you use? ( can't read that back)
[23:28] <ph4rell> quit
[23:28] <harry7> oerHecks: ge force 7150m i think its a integrated on the motherboard of my hp pavillion dv 6700
[23:29] <betanick> hello
[23:30] <harry7> harry7 http://paste.ubuntu.com/845146/
[23:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845146/
[23:33] <betanick> does anyone know how to keep my mounts from changing? ie: on boot 1 sda is a 250gb drive and on boot 2 sda is a 80gb drive. I have 4 satas connected to the motherboard and 2 connect to a sata controller card. please help :)
[23:35] <betanick> i had to reinstall ubuntu because of this problem i didn't check when i issued a chmod command to one of the drives being shared and accidently chmoded the system drive :(
[23:35] <muelli> uh. why would chmod a *drive* in first place? -.-
[23:35] <dejahthoris> harry8; does your machine have only the one sata harddrive?
[23:35] <harry7> dejahthoris: what about that other hdd contoller driver?
[23:35] <neohippie>  hi, i've created a group and i have added my user to the group using 'sudo usermod -aG group username' , and when i type 'groups username' the group is listed  but when i type 'groups' I don't show as a member of the group. Any ideas as to why?
[23:36] <dejahthoris> harry7; does your machine have only the one sata harddrive?
[23:36] <harry7> dejahthoris: yes
[23:36] <muelli> neohippie: you need to log in freshly.
[23:36] <betanick> muelli: so i can access files using samba
[23:36] <neohippie> muelli, thanks i'll do that
[23:37] <harry7> dejahthoris: this is a laptop and i mostly use the interior hdd. i have a exterior hdd but i use it once a year. right now its not connected
[23:37] <elektriks> how come no one has made an open source web email interface like gmail yet?
[23:37] <betanick> i've been using centos 5 and decided i'd switch to ubuntu
[23:37] <dejahthoris> harry7; the problem with the "drive slow to respond" is that it's trying to detect a pata harddrive on the legacy ata controller which isn't disabled (ata5) If you disable it in your bios, you should lose the problem
[23:37] <betanick> maybe i should switch back?
[23:38] <muelli> elektriks: go ahead, build one :) You'll be the next free software hero.
[23:38] <kraz3d> If my ISP blocks port 80 and webservers, does anyone know a way to get around this?
[23:39] <harry7> dejahthoris: so i should go in my bios and disable hdd legacy...? can you give some more info?
[23:39] <muelli> kraz3d: what do you want to achieve?
[23:39] <kraz3d> Hosting a webserver from my computer.
[23:40] <dejahthoris> harry7; the details depend on your exact bios, and since I don't have the same machine as you, I can't give exact directions. But you want to leave the sata controllers enabled and the pata controllers both disabled
[23:40] <mun> does anyone know how to get some meaningful error messages from a cronjob? my syslog shows only "error (grandchild #1779 failed with status 2) etc.
[23:40] <betanick> nobody here has had or is having the same issues as me?
[23:40] <JessD> Can anyone tell me how to force automount to set permissions for any device it mounts?
[23:40] <muelli> JessD: have you read man fstab?
[23:40] <dejahthoris> kraz3d; there are always dynamic-dns services, for a small fee
[23:41] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok i will try but what is pata for and since my wife uses this win7 on the other hand is there any danger?
[23:41] <JessD> Yes, but I fail to find a line in my fstab that defines default behavior
[23:41] <JessD> only specific device behavior
[23:41] <JessD> Which I don't want
[23:41] <JessD> muelli: ^ sorry
[23:41] <kraz3d> dejahthoris: But is there any way for me to maybe set up my own dns?
[23:41] <harry7> dejahthoris: is there any way to tell linux kernel not to mes with pata?
[23:42] <muelli> JessD: so what do you want?
[23:42] <JessD> Muelli : To force automount to set permissions for any device it mounts
[23:42] <dejahthoris> harry7; yes, you can add ata5,ata6 to the module blacklist
[23:42] <JessD> muelli : So if I get some random usb key, it'll automount world read/write
[23:42] <imanc> I've just created a remote user on an ssh server, but I'm not seeing any highlighting in the terminal. Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
[23:43] <betanick> JessD: automount? is that when you doble click on a drive that has not benn mounted?
[23:43] <muelli> JessD: but that's what fstab does, no?
[23:43] <JessD> betanick : No, that's when you plug in a drive and the os mounts it for you
[23:43] <JessD> muelli : My fstab does not contain entries for "Any Device" or any equivalent thereof that I can find
[23:43] <betanick> JessD : oh ok
[23:43] <harry7> dejahthoris: let me check with bios first. if i can disable from there. if not i will ask here how to add ata5 ata6 to blacklist..
[23:43] <harry7> thanks
[23:43] <dejahthoris> harry7; but it's safe to try disabling the pata controller. win 7 detects sata directly. and even if there's a win 7 problem, you can always go back to the bios and re-enable it
[23:44] <JessD> muelli : Yet every device I plug in mounts, ergo something else is defaulting me to 700, for example.
[23:44] <harry7> ok thanks
[23:44] <Somelauw> Hi I am trying to use skype, but even though my microphone volume is at maximum, I can't hear a thing
[23:45] <Somelauw> Or well very quietly
[23:45] <Somelauw> But incomprehensible
[23:45] <muelli> JessD: I don't fully get what you want to achieve. But maybe udisk (check man 7) helps you
[23:46] <muelli> Somelauw: maybe run alsamixer -c 0 and turn the mic boost toggle if there is any.
[23:46] <diverdude> how can i start syslog with -r ?
[23:46] <Somelauw> muelli: They are bars and they are maximized.
[23:46] <Somelauw> What does -c 0 even mean?
[23:47] <betanick> JessD : you can disable automount and mount manually? does that help you?
[23:48] <Somelauw> It is ridiculous low compared to recording sounds on windows.
[23:49] <JessD> muelli : Looks promising, but I got to say that I am unimpressed w/ Ubuntu's documentation lately, esp. anything dealing w/ freedesktop.  Example, do you see anything about how udisks is configured?
[23:49] <TorpedoSkyline> I'm guessing people are aware of the Chrome install issues in Oneiric?
[23:50] <diverdude> any1?
[23:51] <JessD> muelli : Nothing in gconf, nothing in /etc...  Argh.
[23:51] <muelli> JessD: yes: "On Linux, udisks relies on recent versions of udev(7) and the kernel."
[23:51] <diverdude> how can i start syslog with -r ?
[23:51] <muelli> diverdude: Ctrl+Alt+T, then "syslog -r"
[23:51] <muelli> well, kinda...
[23:51] <JessD> muelli : Hmm, already checked out udev, didn't find anythign on default perms for usb block devices; will try again...
[23:52] <mun> how do i change my machine name? i've tried changing it in /etc/hostname but the syslog still uses the oldname in its stamps
[23:52] <diverdude> muelli: no the ubuntu syslog does not directly support -r
[23:52] <bastidrazor> !hostname | mun
[23:53] <muelli> JessD: so you want i.e. /dev/sdb carry, say, 0777 once you plug a pendrive in?
[23:54] <JessD> muelli : Exactly
[23:54] <muelli> JessD: well. that's crazy. But that's a udev thing
[23:54] <JessD> muelli : No, it's completely logical given the scenario, but each to his own I suppose.
[23:55] <harry7> back again. unfortunately my bios didnt have options like unable disable sata-pata. so if anyone can help me add pata on kernel blacklist? thanks
[23:55] <mun> bastidrazor, hmm i've done that but syslog is still stamping using the old machine name
[23:56] <mun> bastidrazor, hostname returns the new name though
[23:56] <betanick> JessD : did you see what i msgd you?
[23:56] <JessD> betanick : Sorry, new to irssi; reading now
[23:56] <muelli> well JessD. Sure, you're free to do whatever you want. But I have a hard time imaging a proper usecase for that unless you have a box that's setup to brick everybody's pendrives. So you could make udev run a script once you plug a pendrive in. that could then change permissions. but I think udev can handle permissions itself.
[23:56] <muelli> but I wouldn't know how off the top of my head
[23:57] <harry7> in effort to make kernel not wait for pata so it can load the OS
[23:57] <zacarias> is there an alternative to gnome-tweak-tool?
[23:57] <JessD> meulli : OK, I need some qualifications there.  How exactly does opening r/w to other users "brick" a pendrive?
[23:58] <muelli> JessD: simple: echo foo >/dev/sdb
[23:58] <muelli> boom
[23:58] <muelli> JessD: but udev does exactly what you want, i.e. just put MODE="0777" to your udev rule and off you go.
[23:59] <imanc> how can I get the ubuntu version from cmd line?
[23:59] <JessD> muelli : How is mounting a drive with more perms equivalent to that?  I'd hate to do that, but that doesn't follow
[23:59] <JessD> muelli : Or do you mean, any system user "could" do that..?