[00:11] <ScottL> TheMuso, ack
[00:26] <TheMuso> ScottL: Ah I see why it was failing to build properly using an orig tarball and a diff.gz... abogani used symlinks, and a .diff.gz cannot represent symlinks.
[00:46] <TheMuso> ScottL: Ok a much improved low latency kernel now on revu.
[01:13] <ScottL> TheMuso, outstanding!
[01:13] <ScottL> i'll poke apw about it
[01:14] <TheMuso> ScottL: Hold up. I am going to push my changes to a git repo so he can look that over if need be. Give me a sec and I'll give you the URL for it.
[01:14] <ScottL> okay :)
[01:18] <TheMuso> ScottL: Ok, I've pushed the current state of things to git://kernel.ubuntu.com/themuso/ubuntu-precise-lowlatency.git
[01:20] <TheMuso> afk for a bit
[02:51] <ScottL> digging into the theme not settings, the lightdm not settings, and the xsession not settings thanks to len 's notes
[17:20] <scott-work> i'm not sure what to do, i have ping apw (kernel UKT guy) several times about the lowlatency kernel, in particular to ask about an ETA for his check, and i've gotten no response
[17:20] <scott-work> i really don't want to be dorky about this and make him mad by continuous pinging though
[17:20] <scott-work> that is NOT a bridge i would like to burn
[17:20] <holstein> yeah... whats the timeline though?
[17:22] <scott-work> i believe today is the feature freeze (although i could check that fact), which has been infered as the date we would need to get this done
[17:22] <scott-work> of course, we could also file a FFe
[17:22] <holstein> extension?
[17:22] <scott-work> tgardner says he will look at it though now :)
[17:35] <ailo> Feature freeze should be today within a few hours
[17:35] <ailo> Great work scott-work 
[17:36] <scott-work> ailo: thank you, but i really didn't do any _real_ work...basically it was been abogani and TheMuso 
[17:38] <ailo> scott-work: Absolutely, but you will have done your bit to help get the kernel into the repo, which is where we need it.
[17:38] <scott-work> agreed
[20:23] <TheMuso> scott-work: Anybody uploaded the kernel to precise yet?
[20:24] <TheMuso> scott-work: I only ask because Tim gave his ok on revu.
[20:25] <ailo> scott-work_: ping
[20:25] <scott-work_> TheMuso: ailo:  sorry, been away doing stuff
[20:26] <scott-work_> TheMuso: i am not aware that anyone has uploaded it
[20:26] <scott-work_> TheMuso: would you like me to query a specific channel about the potential upload?
[20:26] <scott-work_> ailo: thank you for pinging me again
[20:27] <TheMuso> scott-work_: No, I don't think it would have been uploaded yet, so I will do it, and we will see how things go. I am confident it should be ok given Tim's review.
[20:27] <scott-work_> TheMuso: outstanding!
[20:27] <TheMuso> scott-work_: We only then need to get a meta package into the archive, but that shouldn't be difficult.
[20:27] <scott-work_> quite an exciting milestone for us
[20:27] <TheMuso> Indeed.
[20:28]  * TheMuso goes to push the button.
[20:28] <scott-work_> TheMuso: and update our seeds to include the kernel as well :)
[20:28]  * ailo stands ready with the champagne
[20:28] <micahg> TheMuso: you still need a second MOTU to review it
[20:28] <holstein> w00t!
[20:29] <TheMuso> micahg: Tim is a core-dev?
[20:29] <micahg> oh?
[20:29] <TheMuso> He didn't actually advocate on revu, but gave it a +1.
[20:29] <TheMuso> in comments.
[20:30]  * TheMuso checks to be sure.
[20:30] <micahg> yeah, he is
[20:30] <micahg> phew, saves me from doing it :)
[20:31] <TheMuso> Ok, will go ahead then.
[20:33] <TheMuso> abogani: Please pull from git://kernel.ubuntu.com/themuso/ubuntu-precise-lowlatency.git when you get a chance, there are some packaging changes in there that will be going into the upload to precise, and your tree is still the given tree in the Vcs-Git field.
[20:34] <TheMuso> abogani: Tim basically redid your tree, removed the quilt patch and made it a git commit. I also removed the symbolic links, as they prevented the package from being built with the upstream kernel.org tarball.
[20:35] <TheMuso> scott-work_: Longer term, I think we need to move the tree to somewhere where all three of us can colaborate on it.
[20:35] <TheMuso> scott-work_: I'm happy to do the packaging legwork if you guys maintain it.
[20:37] <scott-work_> TheMuso: do you mean in bzr or in a git repository?  in the blueprint there was discussion about using git so we can easily rebase on kernel changes i believe
[20:39] <TheMuso> scott-work_: Yes git. You don't want to use bzr, and git means that you get all the commit history from the kernel team, and the upstrea kernel.
[20:39] <TheMuso> scott-work_: I was thinking we set up a team on gitorious or some such.
[20:40] <TheMuso> And, the kernel goes up with 20 minutes to spare. :p
[20:55] <scott-work_> lol
[20:58] <TheMuso> And the kernel is uploaded.
[21:07] <scott-work_> YAY!
[21:07] <scott-work_> thank you very much TheMuso and abogani for your work on this, it certainly would not have been possible without you!  :-D
[21:07] <scott-work_> i need to update the blueprint as well :)
[21:08] <TheMuso> Cool.
[21:08] <TheMuso> That reminds me...
[21:09] <len> SO I take it the new kernel will show in tomorrows ISO?
[21:11] <scott-work_> len: not until we update the seeds and then update the metas
[21:11] <scott-work_> so this might be a week or so
[21:11] <scott-work_> BUT i can update the seeds for audacity and mudita during the same time
[21:11] <TheMuso> Not even then. It has to be approved in the new queue.
[21:11] <scott-work_> len: and thank you for your email for the lightdm stuff, i'm going to respond with details and i'm making the changes
[21:11] <TheMuso> We also need to upload the linux-lowlatency-meta package which abogani has in git, but that shouldn't be a problem getting in.
[21:13] <len> I am also looking at the jackd package. I am thinking we should be able to put a config file in the settings package that sets real time for jackd.
[21:13] <len> Actually it would tell the jack package we answered yes.
[21:15] <len> scott-work: I will email what I think would work.
[21:16] <len> The other area that needs looking at theme wise is the second panel.
[21:17] <len> It has a number of selections for programs that we don't ship. I can edit that file too to at least remove the stuff we don't have.
[21:17] <len> Personally, I would remove the second panel, but then I have a small screen.
[21:29] <len> scott-work_  ^^
[22:16] <scott-work_> len: aye, as you noted previously, there are menu items that don't work as well (as with the panel)
[22:16] <scott-work_> i was choosing not to address this quite yet until we get a working live-dvd, ubiquity working, yadda, yadda
[22:17] <scott-work_> but also because i wanted to address the menu structure at the same time as these items, even though we will be touching the default-settings package again
[23:15] <holstein> wow!... thanks *so* much ScottL & TheMuso & micahg ...we have a kernel for RT!
[23:42] <TheMuso> Low latency anyway.
[23:44] <holstein> yup... it should work
[23:44] <holstein> our crack testing team indicates :)
[23:44] <ailo> It works with flying colors!
[23:45] <ailo> Every distro should have one!
[23:46] <ailo> Even better would be if the generic kernel was scalable somehow that you didn't need -lowlatency
[23:46] <holstein> i think we are close
[23:47] <holstein> i bet 14.04 doent need it
[23:47] <ailo> holstein: Don't bet on it
[23:47] <ailo> I mean, the code is already there
[23:48] <ailo> I don't know who controls whether a vanilla linux would be better or worse for realtime
[23:48] <ailo> But, as long as there is no interest for that to happen, it might only happen by chance
[23:48] <ailo> And in that case, it might work well for one linux version for example, but the next one not
[23:49] <holstein> we'll see
[23:49] <holstein> as long as we have our lowlatency one :)
[23:50] <ailo> It's not in anyway a natural direction for kernel development AFAIK
[23:50] <ailo> It might be. I'm just guessing
[23:51] <ailo> -lowlatency is pure gold