[00:22] <Marzata> the new xubuntu web site rocks, thanks to the web team
[00:24] <kostasz> i have xubuntu 11.10 with compiz and after changing appearance styles not all of the windows undergo the change. Any idea?
[01:49] <justakill> Hey anyone know how to modify sound options in xubuntu
[01:49] <justakill> somehow i can't hear anything on youtube
[01:50] <justakill> am i missing a plug in
[01:50] <justakill> ?
[01:57] <goathouse774> I'm trying to check my xubuntu iso after check sum.  Don't know how.
[01:57] <goathouse774> I should say, my burned iso
[01:58] <well_laid_lawn> goathouse774: there should be an option for it in the cds' boot menu when you load it
[01:58] <goathouse774> Ok
[01:58] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[01:59] <goathouse774> I went there.  It's too confusing.
[01:59] <justakill> anyone have any idea what my problem might be?
[01:59] <well_laid_lawn> do you have xubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[02:01] <justakill> oops lol been awhile since i've installed linux
[02:01] <goathouse774> I take that back, I didn't visit that specific url.  But that looks confusing too!  Can't I just do the check upon restart method?
[02:01] <justakill> forgot about that
[02:02] <justakill> isn't there 2 packages 2 install? one for dvd playing also?
[02:18] <goathouse774> I seems that my cd drive just burned out; can I install this from the internal storage of my android phone via usb?
[02:24] <goathouse774> That's strange; it will only recognize dvd now...
[03:38] <goathouse774> I'm trying to burn the xubuntu image to a dual layer dvd and it asks me if I want to split it equally over multiple layers.  Should I say yes?
[03:43] <Dayofswords> question, I  have the "editable accelarators" on and i added one, how can i remove it?
[03:43] <Dayofswords> oh, figured it out, backspace
[11:23] <Culiforge> I could be off here but it seems the nvidia server settings isn't behaving properly. I'm running 11.10 and it seems that whenever I close the Nvidia  x server settings nothing sticks.
[11:24] <TheSheep> Culiforge: report a bug to nvidia, I guess
[11:25] <Kingsy_> guys, what vnc server is best to use with xubuntu ?
[11:25] <Kingsy_> vino ?
[11:27] <knome> !best | Kingsy_
[11:27] <knome> Kingsy_, x11vnc works too.
[11:30] <Kingsy_> hmm, well, check this.. I want to be able to run peripherals through it such as webcam etc. I also want it to be active at the login screen,.. so I can WOL my pc and log into the vnc server without being at the terminal to log in
[11:30] <Kingsy_> I vaguely remember having LOADS of problems with vino running before a user was logged in
[11:30] <Kingsy_> so thats why I am askin around
[11:37] <Kingsy_> knome: will both x11vnc and vino do that?
[11:37] <knome> i don't know
[11:39] <Kingsy_> any thoughts anyone?
[11:54] <Marzata> how to change the color of Bluebird theme?
[12:01] <knome> Marzata, you need to edit the gtkrc file
[12:02] <Marzata> knome: ah, that one. thank you!
[12:03] <Marzata> knome: and congrats for the new web of xubuntu. good job!
[12:03] <knome> thanks
[12:21] <justakill> is Xchat or Pidgin better for IRC?
[12:21] <justakill> can you do everything you can do with Xchat in Pidgin?
[12:22] <Kingsy> how do you sucessfully open an ssh connection with x11 ? ssh -X server.com   works but when you try to access the X it says    (vino-preferences:3832): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed    <-- as an example
[12:22] <Kingsy> I do get a desktop sharing box popup however when I execute the command
[12:22] <Kingsy> it asks when and how I want to allow people to connect.. I tick the boxes, press close and I get that errro
[12:33] <Myrtti> justakill: Xchat, without a question. Pidgin falls under stress in no time
[12:34] <justakill> ok
[12:34] <justakill> thank
[12:34] <justakill> i don't like the style of it too anyway
[12:45] <janderson91z> hello
[12:52] <toonRJ> hello
[12:56] <janderson91z> i need help :(
[12:57] <janderson91z> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1926343
[12:57] <toonRJ> ok
[15:23] <justakill> hey i have a few questions??:
[15:23] <charlie-tca> !ask
[15:23] <TheSheep> !hi | justakill
[15:23] <justakill> was wondering how i change the systems main sound device?
[15:24] <justakill> and why does my FileManager take so long to load around 3 seconds??
[15:24] <holstein> i typically install and try pavucontrol justakill
[15:27] <piccoloninja> ciao a tutti
[15:27] <piccoloninja> c e qualcuno
[15:28] <TheSheep> !it | piccoloninja
[15:28] <piccoloninja> tank
[15:30] <holstein> justakill: you could open the filemanager from the command line and see if there are errors... you can try other file managers
[15:40] <justakill> holstein: how should i run it? with parameters
[15:40] <justakill> ?
[15:40] <holstein> justakill: run the filemanager?
[15:40] <holstein> i would just run it from the command line, and just look at the output
[15:40] <justakill> holstein: yea through command line
[15:41] <justakill> what is the command?
[15:41] <holstein> justakill: are you talking about pcmanfm ?
[15:41] <holstein> i would type "pcma" and hit tab
[15:42] <justakill> i think so i just installed the standard Xubuntu 11.10
[15:42] <justakill> its pcmanfm
[15:43] <knome> the default xubuntu installation uses thunar as file manager
[15:43] <holstein> so, thats "thunar" then? correct knome ?
[15:43] <knome> "Thunar" with capital T
[15:44] <holstein> knome: its thunar come the CLI though right?
[15:44] <holstein> yeah... "thunar" in the terminal justakill
[15:44] <knome> right, if it is, good :)
[15:44] <knome> i think it used to be with T only
[15:44] <knome> must be a symlink then
[15:45] <charlie-tca> As in /usr/share/applications/Thunar File Manager...
[15:45] <charlie-tca> Thunar %F
[15:45] <justakill> it works well when its already been launched in a session but is really slow at first start up 5 seconds maybe more just feels wrong?
[15:45] <holstein> i dont hae xubuntu running in front of me to check
[15:45] <holstein> have*
[15:45] <justakill> thunar worked
[15:45] <knome> justakill, the first launch is slow
[15:46] <charlie-tca> hm, it should be case sensitive, I wonder if that is what is slowing the initial launch ?
[15:46] <knome> charlie-tca, no, thunar is just symlink to Thunar afaik and that doesn't take time
[15:46] <justakill> knome: okay not used to that
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Got it. Thanks, knome
[15:46] <knome> np :)
[15:46] <holstein> i think justakill experiences a laggy startup all the time correct?
[15:46] <holstein> not just the very frist time?
[15:47] <justakill> holstein: yea its everytime xubuntu start up a new session filemanager takes awhile to launch its slightly annoying
[15:47] <knome> "new session" :)
[15:47] <holstein> justakill: thats pretty normal for the first launch
[15:48] <holstein> you could probably have something added to the startup sequence that would make it "appear" to start faster
[15:48] <holstein> just waste the time in the startup instead
[15:48] <justakill> holstein: yea i was thinking about doing that
[15:49] <holstein> justakill: up to you.. i wouldnt bother.. no need to load it if you dont need it loaded
[15:50] <justakill> yea i guess so but i think i pretty much use it all the time
[16:08] <justakill> why dosn't sudo aplay -l
[16:08] <justakill> work in terminal?
[16:13] <charlie-tca> It works here. You are using a lower case L, right?
[16:14] <charlie-tca> justakill: it works both with and without sudo here
[16:15] <justakill> ooops it was wrinting in L
[16:15] <justakill> sorry 1
[16:16] <justakill> thank
[16:16] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. Glad you were able to make it work
[16:18] <tomek_> hi
[16:19] <tomek_> anyone here??
[16:19] <charlie-tca> !hi | tomek_
[16:19] <tomek_> i have problem with mirrors list
[16:20] <tomek_> i have old 9.10 xubuntu and i dont know is there any mirrors update for 9.10
[16:20] <charlie-tca> 9.10 is very old. It is no longer supported, and there will not be mirrors for it
[16:20] <tomek_> damn
[16:21] <tomek_> i need libreadline5-dev
[16:21] <tomek_> but i cant find it enywhere
[16:21] <charlie-tca> Most releases are supported for 18 months. If you longer support, please switch to using the LTS releases, which are good for three years.
[16:22] <justakill> AHH can't get my sound card working, i have two of them one on the motherboard the second is an addional card does anyone have any idea why this happens? sound come out of one but not the other!
[16:22] <charlie-tca> The next LTS will be 12.04, due to release in April 2012
[16:22] <tomek_> i know 9.10 is old but i dont want configure it from beginning
[16:22] <charlie-tca> well, I can't help then
[16:22] <tomek_> hmmm
[16:23] <charlie-tca> 9.10 has not had any security updates since April 2011, so it may not even be safe to be using it
[16:23] <justakill> tomek: you probably should update if you have 9.10 its not like you're changing every year
[16:24] <tomek_> this lib is need for rails3 console :/
[16:25] <tomek_> there are no some archive packages anywhere??
[16:25] <charlie-tca> no
[16:26] <charlie-tca> Once a release is declared EOL (End Of Life), it is no longer supported
[16:26] <tomek_> aaaa ok
[16:26] <charlie-tca> I suppose there may be someone out in the world that has it, but there are no archives for unsupported updates
[16:27] <tomek_> i has this xubuntu since he came out and i realy like it because i dont have any problems ever
[16:27] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:28] <charlie-tca> The only suggestion I could make is to install 12.04 when it comes out, so you don't have to upgrade more than every three years
[16:28] <tomek_> ah ok
[16:30] <tomek_> ok i will just not use rails console :/
[16:30] <tomek_> but this is very helpfull debug tool
[17:37] <profus2> hi everybody
[17:37] <profus2> looking for a remote desktop client to connect to wts
[17:38] <profus2> any recommendations?
[17:38] <holstein> xrdp... remmina does that too i think
[17:41] <profus2> thx
[17:42] <profus2> xrdp rating is very poor though
[17:44] <holstein> i would open up a package manager and search "rdp" assuming that is the connection you are looking for
[17:46] <profus2> @holstein: that is what I did, but it did not turn out to be satisfactory
[17:46] <profus2> ;-)
[17:46] <holstein> profus2: feel free and let us know what you have tried, and what you found to be lacking and why
[17:51] <profus2> @holstein: I tried Vinagre which is the default remote desktop viewer, but need more functionality e.g. connect local resources (smart card) to the wts
[17:52] <holstein> cool... and remmina ?
[17:53] <holstein> i personally wouldnt expect to fire up a proprietary VNC type server and expect an open solution to interface and integrate all the "extras" like whatever smart cards you are talking about
[17:54] <holstein> i would look into teamviewer, i would consider other open solutions for both server and client side
[17:58] <lighta> hi guys, hey what happen to the ld xfce4-mixer ?
[17:58] <holstein> lighta: what are you trying to do?
[17:59] <justakill> AHH can't get my sound card working, i have two of them one on the motherboard the second is an addional card does anyone have any idea why this happens? sound come out of one but not the other!
[17:59] <lighta> well holstein I remenber I could set the sound volume per app, not with this one I don't see that
[17:59] <lighta> that like a huge regression !
[17:59] <holstein> justakill: maybe only one is supported.. you can run aplay -l and arecord -l and look.. i typically install pavucontrol
[18:00] <holstein> lighta: i usually use pavucontrol
[18:00] <lighta> pavucontrol, that the packtage name ? I'll take a look
[18:01] <profus2> @holstein: did not try remmina in the 1st place because somebody commented that it took 50% of his cpu power
[18:01] <profus2> now I tried it and I am pretty impressed
[18:01] <profus2> thx for the hint
[18:02] <justakill> which package should install pavucontrol or pavucontrol:i386
[18:02] <justakill> ?
[18:03] <holstein> justakill: i usually just open a terminal and sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[18:05] <justakill> I will do that
[18:06] <xubuntu697> Key, guys, so the xubuntu is built on the ubuntu
[18:06] <xubuntu697> ?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> !xubuntu
[18:06] <xubuntu697> So is there possibility, that there will be same bugs as there ere in ubuntu?
[18:07] <xubuntu697> I'm installing xubuntu now form my pendrive
[18:07] <charlie-tca> yes, depending on what is causing the bug, there can be the same bug in all distributions based on Ubuntu or Debian
[18:07] <xubuntu697> I had an issue on ubuntu, that my internet connection speed is to low hen i'm connected via wi-fi
[18:07] <xubuntu697> on ethernet connection all is fine
[18:08] <xubuntu697> so i was eondering
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Very possible you will have the same issue
[18:09] <xubuntu697> damn :(, btw, have you experienced, that when you do a start up disk with 11.10 for 10.04, on screen it says bootfile is invalid?
[18:09] <justakill> holstein: it seems that both cards show up
[18:09] <xubuntu697> So i can install 10.04 version
[18:10] <charlie-tca> huh?
[18:10] <justakill> holstein: i know it all worked in ubunut
[18:10] <charlie-tca> 10.04 has it's own cd, why not just use that?
[18:10] <charlie-tca> There are many changes from 10.04 to 11.10. I would expect problems trying to do anything with 11.10 to 10.04
[18:11] <xubuntu697> I see
[18:11] <xubuntu697> thanks for support :)
[18:11] <holstein> justakill: cool... you should be able to choose it then.. in pavucontrol, or in the terminal in alsamixer.. check in alsamixer and make sure the levels are as expected, and trust no lables there
[18:12] <charlie-tca> there are too many improvements in 11.10 for it to work with 10.04 at all. I would be very surprised if it had worked.
[18:13] <justakill> holstein: well everything is on full
[18:13] <justakill> holstein: in pavucontrol when i play a video or something you can see the bar moving but not for the other sound card
[18:13] <xubuntu697> So how i be able to install 10.04? I don;t have installation CD
[18:13] <holstein> justakill: i would re-double-couble check all the connections.. try other physical outputs
[18:13] <charlie-tca> Yes, 10.04 is still available and supported for another year
[18:13] <xubuntu697> or i should try burn iso to the cd?
[18:14] <charlie-tca> If you have the iso, you can burn it to cd
[18:14] <charlie-tca> and install from that.
[18:14] <charlie-tca> But if you are already installing 11.10, might be better to wait a few months and upgrade to 12.04, which is also going to be supported for three years
[18:15] <xubuntu697> As i told, if i (i don;t if this word burn fit) burn the iso too USB drive and try to install, there's an error
[18:15] <xubuntu697> Oh, thanks for great news
[18:15] <justakill> holstein: okay was simple in pavucontrol i set the playback for my card
[18:16] <holstein> justakill: :)
[18:16] <xubuntu697> If so, I probably wait a bit :)
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Yes, burning the iso to cd should work, but check the md5 sums first and make sure the iso is valid
[18:16] <charlie-tca> !md5
[18:17] <xubuntu697> thanks
[18:17] <xubuntu697> it may be it :)
[18:19] <xubuntu697> Do you know accurate date of 12.04 release?
[18:20] <holstein> 12 is 2012, and the .04 = april.. the dates are pretty much the same too, or try to be
[18:21] <xubuntu697> I see
[20:08] <ChristopherNg> i think im starting to have some problems again here.
[20:08] <ChristopherNg> xrandr is the only way to change resolution in xubuntu?
[20:09] <holstein> i use arandr, but not for resloution changes really.. more for the spanning of the desktops
[20:11] <charlie-tca> Settings manager -> display
[20:11] <charlie-tca> If it is nvidia and using hardware drivers, nvidia settings works
[20:34] <recluse> If I don't remove libavformat53 in order to install libavformat-extra will I trash my system?
[20:36] <recluse> Correction:  l meant libavformat-extra-53
[20:49] <recluse> Never used IRC before, am I in the right place?
[20:50] <charlie-tca> You are in the right place, but apparently, no one has an answer.
[20:50] <Unit193> He's not in the right place if he's looking for candy though.
[20:51] <charlie-tca> If the installer wants to remove a file when installing another, and you refuse to allow it, it usually makes a mess of things
[20:51] <charlie-tca> If the installer does not attempt to remove the file, normally, it is fine to have them installed
[20:52] <recluse> Thank you, Charlie.
[20:52] <recluse> It only gives me the choice of "cancel" or "install anyway".
[20:53] <recluse> The Software Center, that is.
[20:53] <charlie-tca> I see
[20:54] <charlie-tca> I think I would cancel, and run the install in a terminal using sudo apt-get install ???
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Then if the installer says it will remove the file, allow it to
[20:54] <Unit193> It's more verbose, yes.
[20:55] <charlie-tca> I don't actually use the Software Center for anything
[20:55] <recluse> So just do sudo apt-get install libavformat-extra-53?
[20:55] <charlie-tca> yes.
[20:55] <Unit193> If that's the package, yep.
[20:55] <charlie-tca> It will come back and tell you if it needs to add extra files or remove any files
[20:56] <recluse> Ok, thank you!  I'll try it.  I was going to take it out manually, but when I went to do that it said I have to take out 500 other things.
[20:56] <recluse> Which I figured would lead to 500 more things.
[21:20] <Seryth> Guys, my audio is broken. I'm using pulseaudio, and all of a sudden today it's not working. I'm running on xubuntu, and all I see in the volume control applet thing is "Dummy output: pulseaudio". What do? D: I need music ;__;
[22:21] <Sandor> Hello all
[22:21] <Sandor> I need some help
[22:21] <Sandor> I have an Ubuntu PC
[22:21] <Sandor> And Win7 PC
[22:22] <Sandor> And I want to connect them with an ethernet cable to share a connection
[22:22] <Sandor> Will it work?
[22:53]  * nanotube has a spliced crossover ethernet cable somewhere... :)