| grmls | hi | 00:00 |
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| ussher_ | during a "your system has updates" type update with the muon updates system, it ias stopped at "Running post-installation trigger libc-bin" What is the best practice to do here. in the past i have just killed it, rebooted then tried to fix whatever errors occurred. Is there another way of doing things? | 00:04 |
| ussher_ | Think i have found the answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89401/first-update-after-fresk-kubuntu-install-hangs-because-of-dpkg-now-what | 00:05 |
| === Torpedo_Skyline is now known as TorpedoSkyline | ||
| Jarli | So im a day one user of kubuntu, literally just completed install, and I need ventrilo | 00:42 |
| Jarli | found a post of a guy who says he figured out how to install it | 00:42 |
| Jarli | but i have no idea what any of it means | 00:42 |
| Jarli | anyone care to help? | 00:42 |
| Jarli | And thanks in advance if you do | 00:43 |
| Jarli | Is anyone home? | 00:45 |
| Jarli | Hi Knusper | 00:48 |
| Knusper | Good morning! | 00:49 |
| Jarli | Evening for me | 00:49 |
| Jarli | got a dumb question | 00:49 |
| Jarli | how do I add repositories... | 00:49 |
| Jarli | this is day 1 for me with Kubuntu | 00:49 |
| Knusper | 2 ways | 00:50 |
| Jarli | HI Avihay | 00:50 |
| Knusper | u can add them in the update manager under edit and then sources | 00:50 |
| Avihay | hi Jarli | 00:50 |
| Jarli | sorry, where is the update manager? | 00:50 |
| Jarli | im totally new to linux | 00:51 |
| Avihay | well, last time nepomuk managed to trick me, but this time I've disabled it for sure | 00:51 |
| Jarli | Hi qw_Russian | 00:51 |
| Avihay | mmm, well there's an update notifier | 00:51 |
| Avihay | and it just runs the package manager for you | 00:52 |
| Knusper | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu ( here is everything explained) @Jarli | 00:52 |
| Knusper | I recommend the terminal way ...its way faster when u get used to it | 00:52 |
| Jarli | terminal, sounds like dos | 00:53 |
| Jarli | lol.... | 00:53 |
| Knusper | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 00:53 |
| Jarli | I know this sounds horrible, but I don't want to read... lol | 00:53 |
| Knusper | this command for example to add backports for kubuntu (KDE 4.8) | 00:53 |
| Knusper | just copy and paste the line into your terminal | 00:54 |
| Avihay | I'm guessing Jarli want's to update to 4.8 | 00:54 |
| Avihay | wants* | 00:54 |
| Knusper | then copy this line then | 00:54 |
| Jarli | I actually want Ventrilo | 00:55 |
| Knusper | sudo apt-get update | 00:55 |
| Jarli | I saw a post of a guy that is using Vent, and kubuntu, and I need it for a clan im in | 00:55 |
| Jarli | some games I play :) | 00:55 |
| EvilResistance | Jarli: Ventrilo's linux client doesn't work with their latest server release | 00:56 |
| EvilResistance | it hasnt for the past 4 major version numbers | 00:56 |
| Avihay | well, linux's ventrilo client is called mangler | 00:56 |
| Jarli | can i hit ventrilo servers? | 00:56 |
| Knusper | ......ventrilo?.......Teamspeak 3 is much better and has a Linux Client.....Vent is kinda"behind with the linux client) | 00:56 |
| Jarli | that's all that really matters I guess | 00:56 |
| EvilResistance | Knusper: yeah, but they want Ventrilo so we have to discourage it ;P | 00:57 |
| Jarli | I know, I know | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | although some clans ahve used Vent for a long time | 00:57 |
| Jarli | thats the issue | 00:57 |
| Jarli | my clan has been using Vent for over 8 years | 00:57 |
| * EvilResistance says to that: "Oh well, deal with it, go get TS." | 00:57 | |
| Jarli | how am I, a peon "not really" in the clan gonna change that | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | Jarli: i convinced a clan i used to be in to switch to TS3 when i pointed out there's a mobile client | 00:57 |
| * EvilResistance won that battle | 00:58 | |
| Jarli | Vent also has a mobile client | 00:58 |
| Jarli | at least for my droid it does lol | 00:58 |
| Jarli | so can mangler hit vent servers? | 00:58 |
| EvilResistance | Jarli: there's no ventrilo for the rest of Android and iOS | 00:59 |
| EvilResistance | not to mention the other thousand mobile OSes including Windows Mobile | 00:59 |
| EvilResistance | also not to mention ventrilo's extraordinarily lacking in licensing | 00:59 |
| Jarli | Evil, I'll bet you 100 bucks I can get an android to connect to a vent server | 00:59 |
| Jarli | and be as clear as a normal computer using it | 00:59 |
| Jarli | How do I get Amarok to "keep playing" the next track | 01:00 |
| EvilResistance | i'll bet you nothing because your opinion and my opinion don't have to agree | 01:00 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:00 |
| Knusper | Jarli good news mangler is in ur software packet already! | 01:00 |
| Knusper | just open Synaptik | 01:00 |
| Knusper | type in mangler , mark it then isntall it finish | 01:00 |
| Jarli | I dont know where Synaptik is lol... | 01:01 |
| Jarli | I've been using linux for about 15 minutes | 01:01 |
| Knusper | alt+f>System>synaptics | 01:01 |
| EvilResistance | you could just do this: apt-get install mangler | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | with sudo | 01:02 |
| Knusper | alt+f1 or go to the "start" button | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | Knusper: 11.10 doesnt come with Synaptic installed by default | 01:02 |
| Knusper | ohhh...... | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | 11.10 and later dont ship with it | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | they replaced it with thet Ubuntu Software Center | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | (which I call a piece of crap and burned) | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | subsequently, Kubuntu doesn't come with Synaptic either | 01:02 |
| Jarli | Yeah I have something called Muon Package Manager | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | since Synaptic is GNOME | 01:03 |
| EvilResistance | Jarli: in a terminal: apt-get install mangler | 01:03 |
| EvilResistance | if you're on 11.10 or later it should work | 01:03 |
| EvilResistance | you might need sudo | 01:03 |
| Jarli | Already did, it's downloadinhg | 01:03 |
| Jarli | er downloaded* | 01:03 |
| Knusper | and now u can run it it shoult be in ur menu (it adds automaticly) menu+"start" button | 01:04 |
| Jarli | yep, just trying to figure out how to connect to the server now | 01:05 |
| Avihay | Jarli: also do yourself a favor and sudo apt-get install synaptic . It's a good mature package manager | 01:08 |
| Jarli | can I setup my gmail account into the mail client for free? | 01:08 |
| Knusper | sure | 01:08 |
| Avihay | Jarli: yes, gmail give that service for free with instructions for various mail clients | 01:09 |
| Jarli | if I can only get my password right, then I might actually get signed into mangler | 01:17 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| Jarli | now, is it worth it to install win 7 pro, 64 in a virtual box under kubuntu? | 01:22 |
| rory | stop | 01:26 |
| rory | quit | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | /quit | 01:26 |
| rory | #quit | 01:27 |
| em | how come a fresh install of kubuntu without kubuntu-restricted-extras can play youtubue videos but a fresh install of ubuntu without ubuntu-restricted-extras cannot. | 01:30 |
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| Knusper | @jarli....if u wanna play NO, its not worth it....if u wanna use some software (special programms u cant find under linux) then yes | 01:37 |
| XartaoX | hai | 01:49 |
| XartaoX | I was just going to browse desktop widgets, but the Plasma Desktop Shell Add-On Installer is reporting an Unknown Open Collaboration Service API error (0) | 01:50 |
| XartaoX | i know it worked yesterday | 01:50 |
| === XartaoX is now known as artao | ||
| artao | in synaptic i just did a 'fix all broken' which found nothing, and am now doing an upgrade via 'mark all upgrades' | 01:52 |
| artao | then i'll reboot i suppose | 01:52 |
| Linkmaster | Im in a jam between two graphics cards for a rig I'm setting up. the GTX 550 Ti, or the AMD HD 7770/7750. I've done research to find which is the 'better' of the two cards, and this is(in essence) what I have found to be true: the HDs have faster core clocks, however, are limited to 128-bit. the GTX has a better effective memory clock(by almost 4 times as much), and a 192-bit memory interface. This meals the HDs are limited to | 01:53 |
| Linkmaster | I asked in ##hardware, but they are pretty busy at the moment, anyone have an idea about the question I shall pose: | 01:53 |
| Linkmaster | my question is, would the 110MHz core clock difference be noticeable, especially with the difference in memory bit between the two cards? | 01:53 |
| em | is it a bitcoin mining rig? | 01:55 |
| Linkmaster | no, this is a rig Im buying with actual USD | 01:56 |
| Linkmaster | motherboard, RAM, the whole nine yards | 01:56 |
| XartaoX | nope | 01:58 |
| === XartaoX is now known as artao | ||
| artao | no luck on reboot either | 01:58 |
| Jarli | How can I change the right hand bottom aduio device | 01:58 |
| Jarli | i've looked through the settings and set the one I want as the prefered device | 01:59 |
| Jarli | anyone home? | 02:17 |
| Knusper | yes ;) | 02:19 |
| Jarli | oh thank god | 02:19 |
| Jarli | got another question | 02:19 |
| Jarli | I know how to increase the volume for my head set, but the default volume in the bottom right, is set to another device | 02:20 |
| Jarli | how do I change it to use my prefered device | 02:20 |
| Jarli | which I have checked the setting, at least as far as I can see | 02:21 |
| Jarli | and thanks again for the help | 02:21 |
| Jarli | i might frequent this channel :P | 02:21 |
| Knusper | open the KDE mixer (click on the specker symbol in the panel) | 02:21 |
| Jarli | yep | 02:21 |
| Jarli | i hav eit open | 02:21 |
| Jarli | have * | 02:21 |
| Knusper | playback devices put them all on max | 02:22 |
| Jarli | max would blow my ears out for the one | 02:22 |
| Jarli | it's playing music lol | 02:22 |
| Jarli | one second | 02:22 |
| Jarli | let me kill th emusic | 02:22 |
| Knusper | yes but u can change the Global volume then easy | 02:22 |
| Jarli | ok, both maxed, I can hear electric static coming from the main sound card | 02:23 |
| Jarli | (head set) | 02:23 |
| Knusper | now close the mixer | 02:23 |
| Jarli | ok | 02:23 |
| Jarli | the window is closed | 02:24 |
| Knusper | and make the volume smaller (overall) | 02:24 |
| Knusper | dont open the mixer | 02:24 |
| Jarli | should I quit Kmix? | 02:24 |
| Jarli | the only device displayed is the HD48 | 02:24 |
| Jarli | it doesn't say global | 02:24 |
| Jarli | which is why I was confused | 02:24 |
| Knusper | it is global | 02:25 |
| Jarli | I have the HD48 and the Internal Audio | 02:25 |
| Sentynel | Jarli: does right click on volume icon -> select master channel do what you want? | 02:25 |
| Sentynel | I don't have a multi-output system but it seems like it should | 02:25 |
| Knusper | when u make it small does ur headsetsound also goes down? | 02:25 |
| Jarli | I want the Internal Audio Channel, which is set | 02:25 |
| Jarli | but the mixer shows the HD48 | 02:25 |
| Jarli | Is there other info I can some how get to help troubleshoot this? | 02:27 |
| Jarli | When I reduce the volume from the mixer (bot right) the volume doesn't change | 02:27 |
| Jarli | HD48x) audio Digitial Stereo (HDMI) and Internal Audio Analog Stereo are the two devices | 02:28 |
| Jarli | HD48x0 ** | 02:28 |
| Jarli | AH, found it | 02:30 |
| Jarli | the prefered device doesn't update the mixer | 02:30 |
| Jarli | the kmix needs to be closed and reopened with Ctrl Q | 02:31 |
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| wallison | I'm installing 11.10 and setting up an encrypted LVM. | 02:48 |
| wallison | Should I still encrypt my home directory? | 02:48 |
| Jarli | im completely new to linux | 02:49 |
| Jarli | it's an option when you install | 02:49 |
| Jarli | so i dont see a reason not to | 02:49 |
| Jarli | but dont ask me | 02:49 |
| === Torpedo_Skyline is now known as TorpedoSkyline | ||
| orated | Hey almoxarife | 05:19 |
| almoxarife | hey | 05:19 |
| orated | As mangdood suggested, can you have a look at bootcharts to help me mix boot time? I don't find 60s boot time to be normal | 05:20 |
| orated | s/mix/fix* | 05:20 |
| orated | er | 05:20 |
| almoxarife | orated: pastebin the bootchart | 05:20 |
| orated | http://imagebin.org/199347 | 05:21 |
| orated | That's recent | 05:21 |
| almoxarife | orated: really need firestarter? | 05:22 |
| orated | No. | 05:23 |
| orated | purging that package. | 05:23 |
| almoxarife | orated: run blutooth apps? | 05:24 |
| orated | only the one default | 05:24 |
| orated | BlueDevil | 05:24 |
| orated | Kubuntu 11.10 KDE 4.7 | 05:25 |
| orated | almoxarife: Do you see vmware and java process before nmbd? I don't get how java is starting in boot time. Even fsck is checking fs too often | 05:28 |
| almoxarife | orated: does vmware need to be a boot process? | 05:28 |
| orated | No | 05:29 |
| almoxarife | orated: it is right now, no? | 05:29 |
| almoxarife | the process 'kerneloops' can go to, my opinion | 05:30 |
| orated | Well, the whole strip related to a process in the bootchart shows time its alive and the dark part of it shows how much boot time it taks. firestarter.sh and bluetoothd hardly take 1s. | 05:31 |
| orated | Yes.. | 05:31 |
| orated | almoxarife: I understand its a big chart to check but I'm not sure what exactly to remove and how, hence asked :) The service manager in system settings doesn't list all services. So apart from removing package or changing exports/fstab config startup, is there a file to edit services on boot? | 05:34 |
| almoxarife | kubuntu-low-fat-settings <-- i installed it, did see an improvement | 05:35 |
| orated | Sure, I'll try that. Thanks. | 05:37 |
| almoxarife | i am installing boot chart, so i can give you a comparison, i run lean, so it mean very little | 05:38 |
| orated | Yes, sure | 05:39 |
| orated | O | 05:39 |
| almoxarife | be right back | 05:39 |
| almoxarife | orated: http://imagebin.org/199350 | 05:44 |
| orated | Even yours is crossing 1min | 05:44 |
| orated | Is 60s normal for Kubuntu? I thought its 20-30s | 05:45 |
| almoxarife | orated: i never counted the time, i dont boot often, neither should you, and i am no purist about re-boot | 05:46 |
| orated | almoxarife: Yes, I'm not concerned about boot time usually but I felt 1 min is not normal | 05:47 |
| orated | almoxarife: So, you simply put it on suspend to ram/disk when not required? BTW how to start kubuntu-low-fat-settings? | 05:48 |
| almoxarife | orated: is it installed/? low fat? | 05:48 |
| orated | Yes, I installed kubuntu-low-fat-settings package | 05:49 |
| almoxarife | orated: i expect that the changes were auto managed, and i suspend, alot, thats what its for | 05:50 |
| almoxarife | orated: now that you brought it up i need to check that, the low fat may need input | 05:50 |
| almoxarife | /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50lowfat <-- looks like it is handled at boot time | 05:52 |
| orated | Yes, even I saw that in installed files | 05:53 |
| almoxarife | i never looked, i assumed it, | 05:53 |
| almoxarife | orated: want something to fixate on??? pick a task, any task, use task-scheduler to set it up, it wont work, and i hear gnome does the same thing, thats something to fixate on | 05:55 |
| orated | eh fixate | 05:56 |
| almoxarife | better yet, strip akonadi out without crippling the rest of the system, | 05:57 |
| `Korvin | Hey, I just installed the most recent version of kubuntu, and cannot run shell files | 05:58 |
| orated | almoxarife: remove akonadi-server ? BTW what does $KDEDIRS mean? | 05:59 |
| almoxarife | orated: cant remove it, it removes alot of system with it | 06:00 |
| orated | Yes. And got $KDEDIRS to be kde dir.. | 06:01 |
| almoxarife | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=61892 , orated | 06:02 |
| orated | almoxarife: Yes, I'm on the same page. I'm not getting how you would strip akonadi w/o affecting remaining of the system | 06:04 |
| almoxarife | orated: that is my fixation | 06:05 |
| orated | U alright | 06:09 |
| orated | Alright* | 06:09 |
| orated | Thanks almoxarife | 06:10 |
| almoxarife | orated: welcome | 06:11 |
| orated | `Korvin: Are the script files executable? | 06:20 |
| `Korvin | orated, the issue was that I had it on an ntfs formatted filesystem | 06:21 |
| orated | Was? So its solved? My guess is that for ntfs/vfat they got text files as non executable where bash file or sh file helps | 06:23 |
| `Korvin | yeah | 06:24 |
| `Korvin | something like that | 06:24 |
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| alex____ | m | 07:39 |
| jschall | notifications no longer pop up when they occur (in 4.8). The notification icon appears, and my notification pops up if i click it, but it does not pop up otherwise. Is this a recent change? | 07:58 |
| jschall | well, one just popped up... guess they just don't always. | 08:00 |
| Promethes | update notification not working in kubuntu 11.10 - no yellow icon in tray, no popup. In muon notifications are enabled, anyone knows how to fix this? | 09:41 |
| Promethes | i have 3 computers with kubuntu 11.10 and problem occurs only on one of them | 09:42 |
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| tayfun | Can anyone help me get my touchpad running again ?? I've googled enough but couldn't do it | 11:12 |
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| === dbeuerlein is now known as Jarli | ||
| Jarli | Morning all | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning All | 13:28 |
| Jarli | Morning BluesKaj | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | hi Jarli | 13:30 |
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| Jarli | Anyone here use Qmail server? | 13:35 |
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| Knusper | Lol jarli is like a sponge xD she sucks all the knowledge out of us ;) | 14:00 |
| Jarli | <- is a dude | 14:00 |
| Jarli | But yes | 14:00 |
| Knusper | then he xD | 14:00 |
| Jarli | Yesterday I was at home, now im at work | 14:00 |
| Knusper | im still at work too....10 pm....it sucks | 14:01 |
| Jarli | Trying to figure out if there is a way to get an out of office feature into Thunderbird, so the end user doesn't have to login to the web interface to set out of office | 14:01 |
| Jarli | We were sold a system, and the guy who sold it to us is really helpful, but he'd busy at the moment | 14:02 |
| Jarli | so im trying to find something that might do this | 14:02 |
| Jarli | That sucks, were you at work last night when I spoke to you? | 14:03 |
| Jarli | it's been like 1 4hours | 14:03 |
| Jarli | 14* hours | 14:03 |
| Knusper | that was morning....yes....but they pay well so its ok and im lucky enough to love my work | 14:03 |
| Jarli | cool cool | 14:05 |
| Jarli | where are you based? | 14:05 |
| Knusper | shenzhen china | 14:06 |
| Jarli | Wow | 14:06 |
| Jarli | other side of the world | 14:07 |
| Jarli | New York, USA | 14:07 |
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| jcook_5xdata | needs some help I am tring to install a i386 deb file in a 64 bit install. in ubuntu (gnome) the installer will down load the need i386 package and install the app. how do i do this kd | 15:02 |
| Peace- | #ubuntu | 15:03 |
| sithlord48 | sudo apt-get install <package>:i386 ? | 15:03 |
| designbybeck | it is advised to use 'kdesudo' over just 'sudo' when doing any commands in the terminal? | 15:04 |
| sithlord48 | no just gui programs | 15:05 |
| designbybeck | I'm writing some documentation for a training session we start tomorrow for kids. We had used Ubuntu | 15:05 |
| designbybeck | but now i'm trying to understand how some of these comamands should go in Kubuntu(KDE) | 15:05 |
| jcook_5xdata | I know that :P it just give a a "wrong architecture i386" not what package or missing or needed | 15:05 |
| sithlord48 | if its a gui program then you need to use kdesudo , if its a cli program then sudo should be fine | 15:06 |
| designbybeck | so if you are going to launch something gui you should use (kdesudo) is that correct sithlord48, other than that you can just use (sudo) | 15:06 |
| Avihay | designbybeck: that | 15:06 |
| Avihay | s what I understood too | 15:06 |
| designbybeck | so any 'sudo apt-get' is ok as is | 15:07 |
| Peace- | designbybeck: kdesudo => for gui programs ; sudo for shell program | 15:07 |
| sithlord48 | yes. | 15:07 |
| designbybeck | no need for 'kdesudo apt-get' | 15:07 |
| designbybeck | Ok thank you Peace- | 15:07 |
| designbybeck | are there any programs you "run" normally by going to the command line and luanching the gui with 'kdesudo' ? | 15:07 |
| Peace- | !kdesudo | 15:07 |
| ubottu | In KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why | 15:07 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04.4-lts-release 10.04.4 LTS update released | 15:10 |
| sithlord48 | oh hi mr riddell . | 15:11 |
| sithlord48 | thank you for all the great work you do on kubuntu ! | 15:12 |
| designbybeck | I second that sithlord48 | 15:13 |
| designbybeck | kudos all KDE/Kubuntu developers and contributers! Thank you all! | 15:13 |
| Jarli | hi | 15:21 |
| Riddell | you're welcome sithlord48, designbybeck | 15:24 |
| tekton | kde or gnome? | 15:25 |
| sithlord48 | i would like to help i just don't know what to help with.. | 15:26 |
| tekton | okay | 15:27 |
| sithlord48 | kde or gnome what tekton? | 15:28 |
| tekton | does kubu has widgets to show wallpapers from sites? | 15:28 |
| tekton | i hear that 4.8 has got DAY FOTO... what is that, i don't get it | 15:29 |
| tekton | ) | 15:29 |
| Jarli | got a question, last night I was working on my system, and messing around with the audio controllers. I had two of them, well in order for me to change the default audio device (in the bottom right) I had to quit and reopen the Kmix app. But the app offers the option of " Select default device" | 15:30 |
| Jarli | should it not change automatically? | 15:30 |
| sithlord48 | it should, did u change it in system settings->mulitmedia? | 15:34 |
| Dekalog | @Aelingil I think you can install it from the repositories | 15:58 |
| Jarli | sorry for the delay | 16:03 |
| Jarli | well i ctrl q the app, and started it again, then the default device changed | 16:04 |
| Jarli | but was just curious if it was a bug | 16:04 |
| Jarli | so now, when I increase or decrease the volume using the kmix app in the bottom right, the volume changes accordingly | 16:05 |
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| Scunizi | Is Cononical really defunding the kubuntu project? | 16:53 |
| Riddell_ | Scunizi: they're stopping me from working on it in work time | 16:54 |
| Riddell_ | they'll still give it resources same as xubuntu does or oneiric when I wasn't working on it | 16:54 |
| Scunizi | So it will remain part of the ubuntu family but will need more outside devs to help it keep up? | 16:55 |
| Scunizi | volunteer devs? | 16:55 |
| Scunizi | Riddell_: I ask because I use it on my production machine and need to plan for the future. If it will remain and still get love that would be great. If not I may need to jump ship to a different distro or fork. Unity is fine for my laptop but my dual monitor desktop becomes less productive with unity. | 16:57 |
| Riddell_ | Scunizi: I expect it to remain and get love but we're still sorting out how and who would be involved | 16:58 |
| Riddell_ | I don't imagine the kde packages in ubuntu would just disappear though, too many users for that to happen | 16:58 |
| Scunizi | Riddell_: that's some comfort. Thanks for all your past help with the project. I'm not a coder but can appriciate those that can. | 16:59 |
| Riddell_ | Kubuntu doesn't need coders usually, many other skills can contribute :) | 16:59 |
| Ezim | Scunizi, you can help Kubuntu by reporting bug or just be here and help others. | 17:00 |
| Ezim | Kubuntu have really nice team of people. | 17:00 |
| Scunizi | Riddell_: well I do file bugs.. the things that has always confused me is when kde release a new point update, how do we do that upgrade in kubuntu? Enable backports? use a ppa? | 17:00 |
| Ezim | Scunizi, you add kubuntu backports ppa. | 17:01 |
| Sentynel | point releases are in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 17:01 |
| Ezim | Sentynel, +1 | 17:01 |
| Sentynel | minor releases are in /backports | 17:01 |
| Scunizi | And is that wise on a production machine or do I risk breakage? | 17:01 |
| Riddell_ | Scunizi: instructions are on kubuntu.org. for 0.0.1 releases it's a ppa then a bit later updates. for 0.1.0 releases it's the kubuntu/backports PPA | 17:01 |
| Sentynel | I've never had issues with the point releases from the ppa, personally | 17:02 |
| Sentynel | occasionally some oddities with the minor releases, but nothing critical | 17:02 |
| Ezim | Scunizi, for me 4.8.0 on Kubuntu 11.10 have been more stable then 4.7.* | 17:02 |
| Ezim | Used it from day one | 17:02 |
| Riddell_ | Scunizi: 0.0.1 releases in PPAs are usually fine, 0.0.1 in updates almost always fine, 0.1.0 releases less so | 17:02 |
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| Scunizi | I would think the 0.1.0 would be a higher release and thus a bit more stable.. not sure I understand the numerical sceme | 17:03 |
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| Sentynel | Scunizi: the standard for 3-digit release numbers is usually major.minor.point; point releases are bugfix only, minor releases add stuff | 17:04 |
| Sentynel | so stability should increase from point releases, but minor releases are more likely to introduce new bugs | 17:04 |
| Scunizi | Sentynel: ah ok.. How do I verify which desktop version I'm running currently? numerically speaking? | 17:05 |
| Sentynel | Scunizi: any kde software has it in the help > about kde menu | 17:05 |
| Scunizi | So I'm at 4.7.4 .. and the update looks like it would be worth it then. | 17:06 |
| Scunizi | If I have backports enabled in my repo's and add the ppa/backports will there be conflicts? | 17:07 |
| pvivek | i want to start contributing to kubuntu | 17:08 |
| pvivek | I have used linux from quite a sometime now. I am contributing for the first time. Would be very glad if someone can guide me how to get started. | 17:08 |
| Ezim | have any one tested? Cantata? (kde application) | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | no , they aren't the same , one will upgrade packages , the other upgrades kde | 17:09 |
| Scunizi | BluesKaj: thanks.. adding and upgrading now :) | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 17:10 |
| jcook_5xdata | anyone know where I can get daisy plasma widget? | 17:11 |
| jcook_5xdata | wow no anyone | 17:12 |
| Scunizi | jcook_5xdata: perhaps here.. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=102077 | 17:14 |
| jcook_5xdata | Scunizi: been there done that. if you click the download link it take you to a ppa and if you look in the packages it not there | 17:15 |
| jcook_5xdata | anyone know of a good dock for KDE then | 17:17 |
| jcook_5xdata | most the one I know are for gnome/gtk | 17:17 |
| Scunizi | jcook_5xdata: just a Jaunty/Karmic/Lucid/Maverick links.. once you're in the ppa you might send the owner an email and ask. | 17:18 |
| Scunizi | jcook_5xdata: unless the widget is buried in one of the other packages. | 17:19 |
| jcook_5xdata | Scunizi: I guess I will build it from source unless you know of a good docy for KDE | 17:30 |
| jcook_5xdata | s/docy/dock | 17:30 |
| DarthFrog | jcook_5xdata: Though it's not specifically KDE, Cairo is a nice dock. | 17:31 |
| jcook_5xdata | does that use QT or gtk? | 17:31 |
| DarthFrog | Not sure, probably GTK. | 17:32 |
| jcook_5xdata | cool I will check it out | 17:32 |
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| excognac | hi all! My sysrem become super slow, the HD led is consatantly blinking, however only one strange thing inSystem activities: virtuoso-tuses 25% of CPU. Any ideas where to start? | 17:43 |
| excognac | *system | 17:43 |
| Avihay | excognac: it's the file indexing service / nepokum thing | 17:44 |
| excognac | Avihay: Thank you! What my cause this issue? Ho do I detect it? | 17:45 |
| clone1018 | Anyone know how to disable the "title bar click to move" thing, I mean I still want to be able to move it, but I don't want mis clicks from Google Chrome moving my browser :P | 17:47 |
| DarthFrog | excognac: It's all part of the KDE semantic desktop. You should have a small icon in your systray, looks like a handwritten uppercase "G". | 17:47 |
| DarthFrog | excognac: Or you can disable it altogether in System Settings. | 17:48 |
| Avihay | as far as I understand, the issue is that the file-watcher service (watches which files change = need indexing) is limited by default to less then the number of files you have, so it takes no chanses and reindexes your entire filesystem every time | 17:48 |
| Avihay | DarthFrog: how? | 17:48 |
| DarthFrog | Avihay: And so far I've not found any use for it whatsoever, other than to be a nuisance and get in the way. | 17:48 |
| DarthFrog | Avihay: System Settings / Desktop Search | 17:49 |
| Avihay | it has some nice features, especially if you tag your files, there are now even usefull scripts to take advantage of that | 17:49 |
| Avihay | DarthFrog: tried that, didn't work (removed all the checkmarks) | 17:49 |
| Avihay | excognac: opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=148910 | 17:50 |
| em | clone1018: try going to System Settings > Window Behavior > click on window behavior on the left, then check the 'title bar' tab to see if anything there can help. | 17:52 |
| clone1018 | I have and none of them seem to effect it at all | 17:52 |
| em | then I do not know. Sorry. | 17:52 |
| em | someone might though :) | 17:53 |
| excognac | Avihay: Sorry, I don't quite get it... | 17:55 |
| Avihay | there's software that uses the nepomuk infrastructure in a way that you may find usefull. it takes all the TV show on your HDD, and retrieves their chapter info and extra-data, and enable you to browse your collection | 17:57 |
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| Dani_TM | hi | 19:28 |
| Dani_TM | what's new in kubuntu 12.04 lts? | 19:28 |
| DarthFrog | Dani_TM: Wrong channel. You want #ubuntu+1 | 19:30 |
| Jarli | Hi Dani and Darth | 19:30 |
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| sithlord48 | Jarli: sorry for my super long delay, i noticed this behavor also, i switch between hdmi and optical for sound out and everytime i have to close amarok and restart before the device changes. | 20:15 |
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| Jarli | ya | 20:24 |
| Jarli | this wasn't aramark though, this was the sound controller Kmix | 20:24 |
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| designbybeck | LinuxMint has a nice 50+page PDF manual. I found this site, but I can't find anything else like a downloadable offline manual for Kubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Oneiric | 20:58 |
| designbybeck | Is there such manual | 20:58 |
| Jarli | That manual is big though | 21:24 |
| Jarli | Would be very nice if Kubuntu did have a manual like Mint does... | 21:25 |
| designbybeck | Jarli: is there one to download? | 21:33 |
| Jarli | not that I know of | 21:33 |
| Jarli | I was looking for one the other day | 21:33 |
| Jarli | and didn't find anything | 21:33 |
| designbybeck | well shucks! | 21:38 |
| Jarli | eh | 21:38 |
| Jarli | I bet they hid it right inside of the operating system lol | 21:38 |
| Jarli | should check there first | 21:38 |
| designbybeck | Jarli: i was hoping to have an offline component for documentation. We are donating computers to kids, and some will not have internet access | 21:38 |
| designbybeck | good point ;) | 21:39 |
| designbybeck | *looking at Kubuntu Help now* | 21:39 |
| designbybeck | this does seem to be pretty straight forward Jarli | 21:40 |
| Jarli | Im at work at the moment, and only installed kubuntu on my personal computer last night | 21:40 |
| Jarli | but things are pretty well planned | 21:40 |
| Jarli | Im trying to get mint to run on an old P4 system... with 256k memory... | 21:41 |
| Jarli | haha lets hope that it works | 21:41 |
| designbybeck | cool | 21:41 |
| designbybeck | i don't know about LinuxMint on something that old, have you looked at Xbuntu? | 21:41 |
| designbybeck | or Puppy Linux Jarli? | 21:41 |
| Jarli | what's Puppy Linux? | 21:41 |
| designbybeck | Jarli: http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm | 21:42 |
| designbybeck | It is very cute and cuddly and runs on old hardware | 21:42 |
| Jarli | That would probably be better, as all I need on this machine is word processing. | 21:43 |
| Jarli | and maybe, in the future internet | 21:43 |
| Jarli | thanks for the tip | 21:44 |
| designbybeck | no prob Jarli, pay it forward | 21:50 |
| Jarli | really?? Pay it Forward... totally stole that line from the movie "Pay it Forward" | 21:54 |
| Jarli | :P | 21:54 |
| Jarli | anyways im headed home | 21:55 |
| Jarli | have a good night | 21:55 |
| designbybeck | ;) | 21:58 |
| designbybeck | good luck with it Jar | 21:58 |
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| Uncle_Fester | hello | 22:23 |
| Uncle_Fester | i have a real problem with ubuntu\ | 22:23 |
| Uncle_Fester | i have no sound | 22:24 |
| Uncle_Fester | can anyone help | 22:24 |
| nuse | i'm using kde 4.8 through the backports ppa, for some reason i can't blacklist radeon(my graphics card) | 22:24 |
| nuse | i put the arguement "blacklist radeon" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and then updated grub | 22:24 |
| nuse | that generally works | 22:24 |
| Uncle_Fester | it was working for months, and just now it stopped | 22:25 |
| nuse | Uncle_Fester: dude can't you see i'm asking questions right now | 22:25 |
| nuse | jeez | 22:25 |
| nuse | i'm joking | 22:25 |
| Uncle_Fester | oh, i wasn't aware that i was pm'ing someone. i thought this was an open chat | 22:26 |
| maco | Uncle_Fester: it is an open chat | 22:26 |
| maco | Uncle_Fester: nuse is just being silly | 22:26 |
| Uncle_Fester | ok | 22:27 |
| Uncle_Fester | well hopefully i can get some assistance on my sound issue | 22:27 |
| maco | Uncle_Fester: have you by any chance rebooted since it stopped woring? | 22:27 |
| nuse | yeah, i was just joking | 22:27 |
| maco | *working | 22:27 |
| Uncle_Fester | yes | 22:27 |
| maco | Uncle_Fester: did the breakage coincide with you doing updates? | 22:27 |
| Uncle_Fester | tried a cold boot also | 22:28 |
| Uncle_Fester | there was some updates after it happened | 22:28 |
| maco | before is more what i was concerned about | 22:29 |
| Uncle_Fester | i know my sound is good cause i can boot into windows and get sound | 22:29 |
| nuse | open up a terminal and type this uncle_fester | 22:29 |
| nuse | ps -A | grep pulse | 22:29 |
| Uncle_Fester | ok' | 22:29 |
| maco | Uncle_Fester: if you do "speaker-test -c 0" do you hear white noise? | 22:30 |
| Uncle_Fester | should it start on its own | 22:30 |
| maco | pulse or the white noise? | 22:31 |
| Uncle_Fester | i put the commands you told me | 22:31 |
| Uncle_Fester | no sound\ | 22:31 |
| Uncle_Fester | its playing front left | 22:32 |
| Uncle_Fester | and still i hear nothing | 22:32 |
| almoxarife | Uncle_Fester: what are your phonon settings? | 22:32 |
| Uncle_Fester | what is that? | 22:33 |
| almoxarife | Uncle_Fester: using kubuntu? | 22:33 |
| Uncle_Fester | no ubuntu | 22:33 |
| nuse | more importantly why can't i blacklist my graphics card | 22:33 |
| nuse | haha, i'm sorry, once again i'm joking | 22:33 |
| almoxarife | Uncle_Fester: and kubuntu is going to fix it? | 22:33 |
| Uncle_Fester | i dont understand | 22:34 |
| almoxarife | Uncle_Fester: the channel you are on is for 'kubuntu' | 22:34 |
| Uncle_Fester | well how do i get to ubuntu? | 22:35 |
| nuse | try #ubuntu | 22:35 |
| nuse | they might could be of more help | 22:35 |
| Uncle_Fester | thanks | 22:35 |
| nuse | no problem | 22:35 |
| Ezim | nuse, you want to blacklist? | 22:36 |
| nuse | yeah | 22:36 |
| almoxarife | i want a gui for cli | 22:36 |
| nuse | i've never had a problem blacklisting it before | 22:36 |
| designbybeck | where does the word Muon for the Software Center come from? | 22:36 |
| nuse | for some reason it won't work | 22:36 |
| nuse | i'm assuming its a grub issue maybe | 22:36 |
| Ezim | nuse, what do you have for card? | 22:36 |
| canis__ | My laptop screen is blank without a hook up to an external monitor...I keep trying to change the settings, and save them but it is not having an effect. how can I make kde show up on my monitor? Force it to show up on my laptop default monitor? | 22:36 |
| designbybeck | Because i see a Software company called Muon | 22:37 |
| nuse | ati radeon 6650 | 22:37 |
| Ezim | nuse, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | 22:37 |
| nuse | i put the proper arguements in there via nano | 22:38 |
| nuse | to no avail | 22:38 |
| designbybeck | !kdesudo | 22:38 |
| ubottu | In KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why | 22:38 |
| nuse | generally "blacklist radeon" | 22:38 |
| nuse | generally that works | 22:38 |
| almoxarife | nuse: cant you ignore the card at the bios? | 22:39 |
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| Ezim | nuse, cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | 22:40 |
| Ezim | plz paste pastebin | 22:40 |
| nuse | almoxarife, if so i never noticed you could | 22:40 |
| nuse | aight give me a second | 22:41 |
| almoxarife | nuse: might look | 22:41 |
| nuse | inhttp://pastebin.com/F4gksMWK | 22:42 |
| nuse | yeah i will check into that | 22:42 |
| nuse | thanks | 22:42 |
| nuse | that last arguement generally works like a champ | 22:42 |
| Ezim | nuse, it looks correct. | 22:43 |
| Ezim | weird | 22:43 |
| nuse | yeah, i've updated grub as well | 22:43 |
| Avihay | canis__: laptops usually have a key-combo to switch between screen output modes, in my laptop, it actually works, so you might aswell try in yours | 22:44 |
| almoxarife | any try the 3.2 kernel from x-orgers? | 22:44 |
| Uncle_Fester | all they tell me in ubuntu is to unmute. | 22:44 |
| Ezim | nuse, does this work instead: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36268/how-do-i-blacklist-the-gallium-ati-driver | 22:44 |
| artao|sasquatch | hai: just installed KDE this week after using Ubuntu Studio with XFCE for a couple weeks .... none of the screensavers work properly anymore ... most disply nothing, others show wonky, blocky, screwed up graphics | 22:44 |
| artao|sasquatch | i only installed the BASE KDE plasma desktop enviroment, and have been adding in bits and pieces as i need 'em | 22:44 |
| nuse | almoxarife: yeah, it kind of breaks my trackpad | 22:45 |
| artao|sasquatch | openGL screensavers worked fine under XFCE ... also under Live distros with KDE | 22:45 |
| Ezim | nuse, do you have hybrid card? | 22:46 |
| artao|sasquatch | i imagine i'm only missing some component(s) but have no idea how to figure out which one(s) | 22:46 |
| nuse | what do you mean hybrid card? | 22:46 |
| nuse | i'll try the askubuntu method right now | 22:47 |
| Ezim | nuse, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics | 22:47 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: is this package installed?? xscreensaver-gl | 22:47 |
| artao|sasquatch | i'll check ... | 22:47 |
| Ezim | nuse, lspci | grep VGA <<--- plz paste information you get. | 22:47 |
| nuse | oh, no i don't have switchable graphics | 22:48 |
| nuse | and that askubuntu method is irrevelant to me, thats not my model ati card | 22:48 |
| artao|sasquatch | yes. also xscreensave-gl-extra | 22:48 |
| Ezim | nuse, I see. | 22:48 |
| canis__ | What would that key combo be, or where can I find it? | 22:48 |
| nuse | 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) | 22:49 |
| nuse | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M] | 22:49 |
| nuse | excuse me i have 6470 not the 6650 | 22:49 |
| Ezim | nuse, :) it is a hybrid card. | 22:49 |
| canis__ | Avihay: <canis__> What would that key combo be, or where can I find it? | 22:49 |
| artao|sasquatch | .... also xscreensaver, xscreensaver-data, xscreensaver-data-extra | 22:49 |
| nuse | Ezim: oh, i must have misunderstood the question, i honestly didn't read your link, heh | 22:49 |
| Avihay | on my laptop, it's Fn + f2 , the fn button is blue, and there is a picture of a box (approximation of a screen) on F2 | 22:50 |
| nuse | i thought you meant did i have switchable graphics setup where i could switch between my card and intel's intergrated graphics | 22:50 |
| Avihay | sometimes it's f5 or f7, but there is nothing preventing it from being anything else | 22:50 |
| Ezim | nuse, read that link and also: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/ | 22:50 |
| artao|sasquatch | hmmm ...... mesa appears to not be installed | 22:50 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: is the option to use opengl screensavers checked? | 22:50 |
| Ezim | nuse, you can also if you only want to use intel, try in bios disable ati. | 22:51 |
| artao|sasquatch | ummmm | 22:51 |
| nuse | all those sites are how to setup switching when i just want to disable/blacklist my card | 22:51 |
| Avihay | nuse: maybe the GFX card driver name changed? look up for an ATIish name in lsmod? | 22:51 |
| nuse | i'm gonna try that now | 22:51 |
| nuse | still radeon i think | 22:52 |
| artao|sasquatch | almoxarife: i don't see that option in the screensavers settings panel | 22:52 |
| nuse | xorg updated so that might have something to do with it | 22:52 |
| Ezim | nuse, some laptop have option to disable ati. | 22:52 |
| nuse | yeah, brb, gonna mess with bios | 22:52 |
| Ezim | nuse, if you disable in bios :) xorg update does not do a thing | 22:52 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: the 'random' tab does not offer up option for 'use opengl'?? | 22:52 |
| tony_ | hi guys | 22:53 |
| tony_ | is anyone here? :) | 22:53 |
| almoxarife | no | 22:53 |
| artao|sasquatch | ahhh ... yes, it does ... rather merely to "use OpenGL screensavers" ... not a "just" option tho | 22:53 |
| tony_ | ah, i guess its pretty empty then | 22:54 |
| artao|sasquatch | regardless, i've just been 'trying' them, and none of them display right | 22:54 |
| artao|sasquatch | i'm wondering about this mesa thing now .... what would i install to simply 'get it all' in one go? | 22:54 |
| artao|sasquatch | i do 3D cgi, so i imagine i'll be needing mesa at some point anyhow .. | 22:54 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: look at your xorg log | 22:54 |
| artao|sasquatch | oh dear | 22:55 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: assuming you have intel graphics you want 'mesa' | 22:55 |
| tony_ | Do you guys think you could help me something once you're done? | 22:56 |
| almoxarife | tony_: ask! | 22:56 |
| tony_ | I installed KDE's plasma desktop over Unity and now when I restart I get the Kubuntu splash and login screen | 22:57 |
| artao|sasquatch | hmmm ... don't see any errors ... i could !pastebinit ... console command would be?? um ..... | 22:57 |
| tony_ | Personally, I liked the layout of Unity's login screen more, as well as its splash... | 22:57 |
| almoxarife | 'tony_thats correct | 22:57 |
| tony_ | Do you have any idea on how to revert? | 22:57 |
| almoxarife | tony_: install 'lightdm' remove 'kdm' , and good luck with the issues that may cause | 22:58 |
| artao|sasquatch | where would my x.org.log be? $HOME ?? | 22:58 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: /var/log/..... | 22:59 |
| artao|sasquatch | cat $HOME/X.org.log | 22:59 |
| artao|sasquatch | oops, this isn't the console .. heh .. sry | 22:59 |
| artao|sasquatch | think i got it. here :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/846547/ | 23:02 |
| artao|sasquatch | i didn't see a X.org.log .. just Xorg.0.log .. and that's it | 23:02 |
| artao|sasquatch | i see it's pretty gorarm long there ... i have no clue what to look for | 23:03 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: your driver is not fglrx, what is it? | 23:06 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) | 23:07 |
| artao|sasquatch | ummm .... ati x600 ... just whatever got installed, i changed nothing | 23:07 |
| nuse | my bios doesn't have a setting to disable my card | 23:07 |
| nuse | :( | 23:07 |
| artao|sasquatch | i know i can't use the radeon drivers | 23:07 |
| artao|sasquatch | i'll be replacing my gfx card within the next few weeks with an nvidia gtx 500 something .. prolly gtx 560 | 23:08 |
| nuse | also my desktop minimize effect is being weird, instead of minimizing to the task tab it scales out sometimes | 23:08 |
| em | artao|sasquatch: goram* | 23:08 |
| nuse | sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't | 23:08 |
| nuse | kde is really starting to piss me off | 23:08 |
| Avihay | <Avihay> nuse: maybe the GFX card driver name changed? look up for an ATIish name in lsmod? | 23:08 |
| em | nuse: Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop. | 23:09 |
| nuse | i did, still says radeon to my knowledge | 23:09 |
| nuse | em: yeah i know | 23:09 |
| Riddell | em: "KDE's Plasma Desktop" :) | 23:09 |
| em | I like it :) | 23:09 |
| Avihay | nuse: pastebin it for me? | 23:10 |
| nuse | Avihay: http://pastebin.com/nd8nJTNh | 23:10 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: are are using radeon drivers | 23:10 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: you are using radeon drivers | 23:10 |
| artao|sasquatch | i see | 23:12 |
| almoxarife | nuse: pastebin Xorg.0.log from /var/log/ | 23:12 |
| artao|sasquatch | i was JUST NOW going to install the fglrx package ... Go?? | 23:12 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: go, | 23:12 |
| artao|sasquatch | it looks like i can install EITHER fglrx OR fglrx-updates | 23:13 |
| artao|sasquatch | hmm | 23:13 |
| Avihay | mkey, then I'm clueless. you can go and remove the package, or locate radeon.ko and delete the stuff, that's how I was forced to deal with nepomuk | 23:13 |
| artao|sasquatch | as my card is older, i assume i want just fglrx | 23:13 |
| artao|sasquatch | this i will do | 23:13 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: both, or fgrlx first | 23:13 |
| nuse | http://pastebin.com/Gkpc6JF5 | 23:13 |
| nuse | oh snap! i didn't even think to just delete radeon.ko | 23:14 |
| artao|sasquatch | interestingly, selecting fglrx-updates deselects fglrx | 23:14 |
| Avihay | try the package manager first | 23:14 |
| nuse | i'm gonna let almoxarife check out my xorg log before i commit to that | 23:14 |
| nuse | but that sounds like whats gonna happen | 23:15 |
| artao|sasquatch | installing ... | 23:16 |
| artao|sasquatch | ... and how should i feel about mesa?? | 23:16 |
| artao|sasquatch | ... i wonder if this 'fglrx' thing is why i seem to get no textures in Spring Engine games as well ... hmmmmmm | 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Jockey advertising FGLRX is like advertising sharp toys with lead paint | 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | some people can only learn by hurting themselves I think | 23:19 |
| artao|sasquatch | rebooting | 23:20 |
| almoxarife | nuse: i dont see 'mesa' drivers | 23:20 |
| almoxarife | artao|sasquatch: 'mesa' is intel, you are ati, forget mesa | 23:20 |
| almoxarife | nuse: do you have the updated graphics ppa in sources? | 23:21 |
| nuse | no | 23:22 |
| nuse | i just want to blacklist it honestly | 23:22 |
| nuse | where can i find the ppa though? | 23:23 |
| Ezim | nuse, did bios work for you? | 23:23 |
| nuse | nope | 23:23 |
| nuse | no option there, i was pretty sure but i figured i would check | 23:23 |
| Ezim | nuse, http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/2012/01/improved-support-for-amd-hybrid.html | 23:24 |
| almoxarife | nuse: add this to your sources http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/ distribution 'oneiric' components 'main' | 23:24 |
| almoxarife | nuse: using synaptic? | 23:25 |
| Ezim | nuse, really read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics | 23:25 |
| XartaoX | ok | 23:26 |
| XartaoX | that completely broke my settings | 23:26 |
| nuse | using muon mainly | 23:26 |
| nuse | reading now.... | 23:26 |
| XartaoX | now not only DON'T screensavers work, neither does my dual display ... it insists on cloning the display and won't let me set them side-by-side | 23:26 |
| XartaoX | grrrrr. | 23:26 |
| XartaoX | removing fglrx and rebooting | 23:27 |
| almoxarife | nuse: the same applies to muon, | 23:28 |
| nuse | yeah i know | 23:28 |
| nuse | muon has pretty much the same functionality as synaptic so i use muon mainly these days | 23:29 |
| almoxarife | nuse: the simple ppa add 'ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa' | 23:32 |
| nuse | yeah i've already added it | 23:34 |
| canis__ | hello, someone recently mention that there was a keyboard shortcut to change monitor outputs? Does anyone know what it is? | 23:34 |
| almoxarife | nuse: i notices that once i was running the updated drivers i stopped crashing opengl, being a ppa you need to be aware of the down side | 23:34 |
| nuse | yeah, i'm gonna update right now and reboot and see if i can notice any differences | 23:35 |
| nuse | thanks for the info | 23:35 |
| nuse | bbl | 23:35 |
| XartaoX | fglrx removed .. system back to normal | 23:35 |
| XartaoX | trying installing mesa | 23:36 |
| Avihay | muon doesn't have the feedback that synaptic has... | 23:36 |
| canis__ | My systems settings monitor config will not save I guess. I keep changing the setup, and saving, but everytime I boot without an external monitor my screen goes blank. At least in KDE it does, in E17 it works fine. | 23:36 |
| almoxarife | XartaoX: mesa is intel | 23:36 |
| almoxarife | i stayed with synaptic , muon confuses me | 23:37 |
| canis__ | muon has a retarded search | 23:39 |
| nuse | my desktop effects seem a little smoother, could be in my head though | 23:44 |
| XartaoX | system back up and normal ... still no screensavers | 23:44 |
| XartaoX | just looking at one of the fractal screensavers .. coral it was ... it LOOKS like it's setting the screen resolution ridiculously low ... like 320 x 240 or so | 23:45 |
| XartaoX | as i said ... screensavers worked FINE under XFCE and Live KDE distros | 23:45 |
| almoxarife | nuse: i guess it worked :) | 23:46 |
| XartaoX | just double checked and yep .. all the screensavers work fine under XFCE ... including the one's installed FOR kde | 23:50 |
| XartaoX | i must be missing some kde component, or there's some kde settings mishmash somewhere | 23:50 |
| === XartaoX is now known as artao | ||
| artao | well. i guess screensavers really aren't all that important to me ... and everything else appears to work fine | 23:58 |
| artao | so i'll leave this issue for later and see if a new vic-card fixes it | 23:58 |
| artao | =] | 23:58 |
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