[00:00] <jono> jcastro, around?
[00:00] <jono> actually nm
[00:04] <akgraner> jono, you have mail :-)
[00:05] <jono> thanks akgraner
[00:05] <akgraner> yw
[07:32] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:34] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <czajkowski> dholbach: morning
[07:43] <dholbach> hi czajkowski
[07:45] <dpm> good morning all
[07:45]  * benonsoftware waves hi to everyone :P
[10:06] <dholbach> so Germany just lost its president
[10:06] <czajkowski> lost?
[10:06] <czajkowski> as in passed away?
[10:07] <dholbach> he resigned
[10:07] <pangolin> I was thinking they misplaced him
[10:09] <dholbach> there were many many reports about affairs about accepted favours by businessmen in the last few months
[10:20] <akgraner> anyone help me test google hangouts on air  try to join https://plus.google.com/hangouts/635cbfe8abc22185852378f2b73b73350f01e803?authuser=1&hl=en-US#   I need to see what happens when more than 9 people join me :-)
[10:22] <czajkowski> dholbach: ahh ok that makes more sense
[10:22] <czajkowski> will it have a massive effect on the country ?
[10:24] <pangolin> akgraner: that link doesn't work for me, gives me a 404 when I try to sign in
[10:24] <akgraner> ahh -let me invite you
[10:25] <jussi> akgraner: invite me also?
[10:25] <akgraner> heck let me just make this public
[10:25] <jussi> bazing! :P
[10:25] <pangolin> now we're talking
[10:26] <jussi> no we arent!
[10:26] <jussi> :P
[10:26] <pangolin> right
[10:26] <dholbach> no, the function of the president in Germany is mostly a representative one, presidents can sign laws and hold speeches - it's meant to be a voice of the collective conscience, have a reminding and unifying function - which is why you need respect and dignity
[10:26] <jussi> no niin!
[10:26] <dholbach> czajkowski, ^ so that's why it was obvious that after some time with affairs he would have to go at some stage
[10:27] <akgraner> jussi, pangolin if you go to my google+ page the akgraner@gmail.one the hangout is public now
[10:27] <pangolin> I need to install the plugin.
[10:30] <czajkowski> dholbach: nods same as ours, ours signs off the laws and is a figure head where as our Taoiseach is the one that rules the government
[10:31]  * popey joins the hangout
[10:31] <dholbach> I guess that's like our chancellor
[10:32] <dholbach> or chancelorette
[10:33] <popey> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/YOURHANGOUTNAMEHERE
[10:33] <akgraner> popey, thanks
[10:45] <MrChrisDruif> Awesome name for the hangout popey ;-)
[10:46] <jo-erlend> everything hit the fan on my Precise today. I can use IRC, but that's about it. >:|
[10:48] <pangolin> hey come talk to me https://plus.google.com/hangouts/efb76e490d7a775ece7eaaef205a927866a16594?authuser=0&hl=en&source=1#
[10:48] <MrChrisDruif> That's not good, but I think a better channel to ask for help is #ubuntu+1 jo-erlend
[10:49] <MrChrisDruif> pangolin; you want us to talk to you? ;-)
[10:50] <jo-erlend> MrChrisDruif, I wasn't asking for help. I was just reminded that I have an appointment to have a call with jono today. Seems unlikely that will happen now.
[10:50] <MrChrisDruif> Ah
[10:50] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^
[10:51] <jo-erlend> I forgot to snap my system before the upgrade too, so I can't just revert either. Looks like this might become a long weekend. And not in a good way either. :)
[11:00] <popey> bah, left mouse click broke
[11:16] <popey> akgraner: you creating a new one?
[11:16] <akgraner> pop
[11:17] <akgraner> popey, yeppers
[11:17] <popey> k
[11:42] <popey> akgraner: I have to drop off
[11:44] <akgraner> popey, thank you
[12:08] <cjohnston> mornin
[12:09] <akgraner> AlanBell, thank you
[12:09] <akgraner> popey, jussi pangolin thank you as well :-)  I finally got on air to work
[12:10] <pangolin> glad to help
[12:10] <pangolin> was nice putting faces/voices to the nicks
[12:10] <akgraner> looks like it takes an hour or less to be accessible on youtube once the broadcast finishes
[12:14] <jo-erlend> popey, how do you create a new left mouse click?  :>
[13:25] <akgraner> mhall119, This is brilliant! - http://mhall119.com/2012/02/the-many-sides-of-jono-bacon/
[13:25] <duanedesign> akgraner: hahaha
[13:26] <duanedesign> thanks, i needed a good laugh this morning
[13:29] <czajkowski> dpm: if a person finds an error with a translation is it better to file a bug or a file a question?
[13:32] <dpm> czajkowski, if it's for Ubuntu, the best thing to do is to file a bug against the translations project (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/) - from there we can triage whether it is a mistranslated string (and then we assign it to the right language team to fix it), or an i18n in the app, that affects all languages. Alternatively, going to #ubuntu-translations and asking there, someone will probably be around to provide guidance.
[13:32] <czajkowski> dpm: nods ok thanks
[13:32] <dpm> ok, lunch time!
[13:33] <dpm> no worries :)
[13:33] <czajkowski> dpm: thank you !
[13:44] <cprofitt> jcastro: ping
[13:45] <cprofitt> I need a just do it nod
[13:45]  * mhall119 nods
[13:45]  * popey nods
[13:46] <cprofitt> can we have a global jam art contest?
[13:46] <cjohnston> jfdi!!
[13:46] <cprofitt> 1. poster
[13:46] <cprofitt> 2. background
[13:46] <cprofitt> 3. badge
[13:47] <cjohnston> jcastro: balloons you guys need to join mhall119 and myself for ugj!
[13:47] <popey> hehe, you want to get creative types to do stuff on demand? Good luck! :D
[13:47] <cprofitt> not on demand... announce it now...
[13:47] <cprofitt> have the art revealed over the global jam weekend
[13:58] <popey> do we already have an art thing going on?
[13:58] <cprofitt> not sure...
[13:58] <popey> worth checking
[13:58] <cprofitt> who do I check with?
[13:59] <cjohnston> I'll get my daughter to make something
[13:59] <popey> i think iain farrell might have set something up
[13:59] <cjohnston> maybe poke around in #ubuntu-design as well
[14:02] <mhall119> cjohnston: +1
[14:21] <mhall119> cjohnston: does irssi's advanced window list support >99 channels?
[14:21] <cjohnston> im at 35, so i dont know
[14:21] <mhall119> I'm at 79 :(
[14:21] <cjohnston> I have tried hard recently to keep mine really lo
[14:21] <cjohnston> w
[14:21] <mhall119> me too
[14:22] <mhall119> it seems you've been more successful
[14:22] <cjohnston> lol
[14:27] <cprofitt> what is the flickr tag to use for the global jam?
[14:28] <mhall119> cprofitt: #ubuntu
[14:28] <cprofitt> thanks... just wanted to confirm that
[14:28] <mhall119> everything is #ubuntu now
[14:29] <cprofitt> mhall119: http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/?p=1023&preview=true
[14:29] <cprofitt> can you actually read that when its a preview?
[14:30] <mhall119> cprofitt: no
[14:30] <cprofitt> k
[14:33] <cprofitt> jono posted this -- http://blog_uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/communitymanager.jpg
[14:33] <cprofitt> love it!!
[14:34] <mhall119> cprofitt: I posted it
[14:34] <mhall119> now everybody tell Jono how cool it makes him look, so he doesn't fire me
[14:35] <cprofitt> mhall119: http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/
[14:35] <cprofitt> let me know if it looks ok
[14:35] <cjohnston> thats awesome
[14:36] <mhall119> cprofitt: you should linkify the handful of URLs you have
[14:37] <cprofitt> ... yep
[14:37] <cprofitt> good catch
[14:37] <mhall119> cprofitt: dude, you know what would be cool?  Flip the text-bubble images and arrange it so that, when posted to FB or G+, it looks like its coming from your avatar
[14:38]  * mhall119 is referring to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Artwork
[14:40] <cprofitt> +1
[14:59] <cprofitt> hey hggdh
[15:00] <hggdh> hi cprofitt
[15:51] <cprofitt> hey jono
[15:52] <jono> hey cprofitt
[15:52] <cprofitt> http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/
[15:52] <cprofitt> hope that hits the mark on the art stuff...
[15:52] <cprofitt> do you know if any other 'art' related stuff is going on for the ugj?
[15:55] <jono> hi all
[15:55] <jono> mhall119, LOL at the picture :-)
[15:55] <jono> jcastro, dholbach, dpm, mhall119, balloons demo day in 5
[15:55] <dholbach> yep
[15:56] <balloons> 5 min warning...
[15:56] <dpm> jono, all set!
[15:56] <balloons> yikes
[15:56] <dpm> balloons, goes first today! :)
[15:56] <jcastro> cool
[15:56] <balloons> rofl
[15:56] <jono> dpm, throw that mofo under the bus :-)
[15:56] <balloons> I'm SO close on something..
[15:56] <dpm> lol
[15:56] <jcastro> jono: can you fire up the G+ thing early? I would like to debug something with the G+ thing
[15:57] <jono> jcastro, will do now
[15:57] <dpm> jcastro, I'll join in, once you've tested your thing, I want to test how well it works with 2 monitors
[15:57] <dpm> + nvidia :)
[15:58]  * mhall119 is ready
[16:02] <jono> balloons, all set?
[16:03] <balloons> sure sure
[16:19] <dholbach> balloons, lost interest? :)
[16:20] <balloons> sorry... x crash :-)
[16:37] <bkerensa> :) 12.04 is not feeling so precise today
[16:49] <jo-erlend> bkerensa, I know… Everythings broken here. I get a feeling this might become a very long weekend. :)
[16:50] <jo-erlend> jono, hey. I'm sorry, but I really have to postpone that meet-up. I'm buried here.
[16:51] <jono> jo-erlend, np, we can reschedule
[16:52] <cprofitt> jono: you got a few minutes?
[16:52] <jono> cprofitt, not right now, on a call
[16:52] <cprofitt> k
[16:56] <bkerensa> Indeed
[16:56] <bkerensa> :D
[16:57] <bkerensa> nearly everything is broken here :) thunderbird, firefox, libreoffice, X and likely much more
[17:02] <jo-erlend> that has to be the tenth crash today. :)
[17:06] <jo-erlend> heh... Eleven.
[17:08] <bkerensa> LOL
[17:08] <bkerensa> :D
[17:08] <bkerensa> 12 now
[17:19] <jono> dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments
[17:19] <jono> on there are instructions of how to install and write an accomplishment
[17:20] <dpm> jono, ah, cool, thanks
[17:20] <jono> dpm, if you want me to walk you through it on G+, happy to do so
[17:21] <jono> some translations accomplishments would be awesome :-)
[17:22] <dholbach> jono, couldn't you cache something like "all the names of the teams in ~locoteams"?
[17:22] <dholbach> I mean it doesn't change every 5 minutes :)
[17:22] <dpm> jono, yeah, I've just pinged mhall119 for a quick hangout, but I think he's preparing his other call. let me wait a couple of minutes and if he's not there, let's do a hangout
[17:22] <jono> dpm, np
[17:22] <jono> if you are pressed now, another time is fine too
[17:23] <jono> dholbach, I could, but I want to keep the system as generic as possible - but I think on the server side we could potentially do this
[17:23] <dpm> jono, nah, it's cool, this falls in the category of fun stuff :)
[17:23] <jono> dholbach, do you know if I can ask launchpadlib if team a is in team b?
[17:23] <jono> dpm, :-)
[17:26] <dholbach> jono, something like this?
[17:26] <dholbach> In [9]: lp.people["ubuntu-dev"] in lp.people["motu"].super_teams
[17:26] <dholbach> Out[9]: True
[17:26] <jono> dholbach, so that checks if a team is a subteam of another?
[17:26] <dholbach> yes
[17:26] <jono> sweet
[17:26] <jono> that means I can avoid my issue with the loco-teams accomplishment
[17:26] <jono> dholbach, how can I check which teams someone is part of?
[17:27] <dholbach> but I don't know exactly how many levels of subteams/superteams it checks
[17:27] <dholbach> let me check the apidoc
[17:28] <jono> thanks dholbach
[17:28] <cjohnston> If anyone wants to check out google hangouts with a live view feature for more than 10 people, jump on https://plus.google.com/hangouts/stream/30ee630ee6690f5b83c20881d8124f1c0ffee8e7e21c2?authuser=1&hl=en&source=1  - it is being recorded though
[17:28] <jono> dpm, are you on a call with mhall119?
[17:29] <dpm> jono, I'm not, shall we do a quick hangout?
[17:29] <jono> dpm, sure
[17:29] <dpm> cool
[17:30] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[17:34] <dholbach> jono, the "easiest" way I found for locoteams (could be ubuntu-dev or ubuntumembers too - they both have subteams) is:
[17:34] <dholbach> In [12]: set([a.name for a in lp.people["dholbach"].super_teams]).intersection(set([a.name for a in lp.people["locoteams"].sub_teams]))
[17:34] <dholbach> Out[12]: set([u'ubuntu-de-locoteam', u'ubuntu-de-events', u'ubuntu-berlin'])
[17:35] <dholbach> in which case I would cache: set([a.name for a in lp.people["locoteams"].sub_teams]), etc.
[17:36] <dholbach> if 100000 users run this, they are going to hammer LP in any case :-(
[17:36] <dholbach> so maybe you need only_check_on_the_server accomplishments :-)
[17:36] <jcastro> hey guys
[17:36] <jcastro> this firmware live test suite
[17:36] <jono> dholbach, cool, one sec just on a call with dpm
[17:36] <jcastro> would be an awesome easy task for the UGJ
[17:37] <dholbach> jono, sure sure - I'll be online for a bit still - no worries
[17:37] <jcastro> one person needs a USB stick
[17:37] <jono> dholbach, :-)
[17:37] <jcastro> Pass it around to the group
[17:37] <dholbach> jcastro, ask Colin about it - can they submit whatever they found somewhere?
[17:38] <jcastro> it doesn't submit automatically
[17:38] <jcastro> but he has instructions on where to file the bug
[17:38] <dholbach> brb - reboot
[17:40]  * jcastro is asking him if it's useful as a general tool
[17:40] <jcastro> or if they only do it for certain machines or whatever
[17:41] <dholbach> Feature Freeze broke my machine
[17:42] <czajkowski> mine too
[17:42] <czajkowski> I've no login
[17:42] <czajkowski> FUN!
[17:42] <czajkowski> waiting on unity 2 d update
[17:43] <jcastro> and we were doing so good!
[17:43] <dholbach> and shutting down takes 5 times longer than booting up :)
[17:43] <dholbach> we should have stuck with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives/4.10?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=gnome-splash-1.png
[17:44] <czajkowski> have phone tethered
[17:44] <czajkowski> got into a tty
[17:44] <czajkowski> and then ssh to get irc
[17:44] <czajkowski> and pulling in updates via phone on a train back to london!
[17:44] <bkerensa> dholbach: +1
[17:44] <bkerensa> :D
[17:52] <cprofitt> dholbach: lol
[17:52] <cprofitt> saw my post, heh?
[17:52] <dholbach> yep :)
[17:53] <dholbach> mhall119, jcastro - do you know if I can assign a sensitivity to the hud display?
[17:53] <dholbach> I keep opening it and dragging away focus, when I alt-<number> between terminal tabs
[17:53] <jcastro> dunno
[17:54] <mhall119> dholbach: I believe that Unity 5.6 (coming next week) has a fix for that
[17:54] <mhall119> people have been complaining about the same when they alt+printscreen
[17:54] <dholbach> I hope so :-(
[17:55] <dholbach> does u-2d have the hud too?
[17:55] <mhall119> I think they've implemented something to check that it's a 'tap' on alt, not a 'press and hold'
[17:55] <mhall119> dholbach: that I don't know
[17:55] <dholbach> I'll try
[17:55] <dholbach> brb
[17:55] <snap-l> http://mhall119.com/2012/02/the-many-sides-of-jono-bacon/ <- I LOLed
[17:58] <dholbach> wow, because I didn't have unity-2d installed (currently uninstallable), I reinstalled gnome-fallback-session
[17:59] <cprofitt> I nominate etneg_, the artist, for a community trophy!!
[17:59] <dholbach> wow - we've seriously come a long long long way
[17:59] <dholbach> the use of unity is totally hardwired into my brain already
[17:59] <cprofitt> +1 dholbach - me too
[17:59] <cprofitt> I have really gotten used to it.
[17:59] <czajkowski> dholbach: kenvandine says it's just after been released to fix the issue for login
[18:01] <mhall119> dholbach: yeah, I was using my kid's 10.04 box the other day, if felt so awkward
[18:02] <mhall119> dholbach: according to didrocks, no HUD in Unity2d right now, but "next week probably"
[18:02] <dholbach> mhall119, I'll try it out again when 5.6 comes out
[18:02] <jono> snap-l, :-)
[18:03] <jono> jcastro, about set?
[18:03] <jcastro> I am all set.
[18:19] <dholbach> alright my friends
[18:19] <dholbach> I call it a day
[18:19] <dholbach> have a great WE
[18:32] <jono_> balloons, will be one sec
[18:32] <balloons> np.. I'll work on fixing my hair
[18:35] <jono_> balloons, invite sent
[18:46] <dpm> have a good weekend everyone!
[19:19] <jcastro> snap-l: hey are you planning the michigan jam?
[19:19] <snap-l> Si si
[19:20] <jcastro> hey can I interview you early next week?
[19:20] <jcastro> I want to highlight and talk about planning and stuff
[19:20] <snap-l> Sure, if you want. :)
[19:20] <jcastro> as an example for other teams that might not know what to
[19:20] <jcastro> cool
[21:31] <jcastro> hey mhall119
[21:31] <jcastro> do you have a printer?
[21:32] <cjohnston> jcastro: balloons: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1445/detail/
[21:32] <cjohnston> ;-)
[21:33] <jcastro> SHARED.
[21:33] <balloons> cjohnston, awesome
[21:33] <cjohnston> you two had better come
[21:33] <cjohnston> hehe
[21:34] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, why?
[21:34] <jcastro> ask me closer, I don't even know what I am doing for dinner, let alone march
[21:34] <mhall119> cjohnston: do we have a venue yet?
[21:34] <jcastro> mhall119: I see I have a new think called indicator-printers
[21:35] <jcastro> you should blog/G+ a quickie about it
[21:35] <cjohnston> mhall119: probably my house like last time
[21:35] <mhall119> jcastro: oh, for active print jobs?
[21:35] <mhall119> jcastro: I haven't even used it yet
[21:35] <jcastro> not sure what it does yet, I haven't printed
[21:35] <jcastro> haha, "who will print for the cause."
[21:40] <mhall119> cjohnston: dude, you're not even registered as attending
[21:40] <cjohnston> lol
[21:41] <balloons> cjohnston too cool for his own parties
[21:41] <cjohnston> you know it
[21:42] <mhall119> which will be awkward, since it'll be at his house
[21:42] <cjohnston> ill get a dog and let the dog host it
[22:00] <popey> mhall119: need a "how to make a unity lens" tutorial :D
[22:00] <popey> screencasts ftw
[22:03] <mhall119> popey: dpm is working on one
[22:03] <mhall119> popey: his is for Oneiric
[22:03] <popey> yay
[22:03] <mhall119> I'll do one for Singlet/Precise once my quickly template is done