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dholbachgood morning07:34
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sladenmorning people09:06
MrChrisDruifAloha sladen09:08
sladenhola MrChrisDruif09:08
MrChrisDruifComo esta sladen ?09:09
MrChrisDruifHow are you sladen ?09:10
navaHi all09:11
MrChrisDruifAloha nava09:11
navai sent a mock up last night, did you see it?09:11
sladenMrChrisDruif: enjoying the view from Millbank this morning.  A bit smoggy, but good none-the-less09:12
sladennava: what was the mockup of?09:12
navaabout full screen in ubuntu09:13
navawhen click on maximized button on window09:13
MrChrisDruifI've not seen a mock up, but then again does the design team have a mailing list?09:13
navayes, i sent for mailing list09:14
navasladen :  i have an idea to let user to choose between full screen with luncher or without09:15
sladennava: didn't see it;  what Real Name should I look for on the email?09:17
navaupdated: mock up09:17
navasent from nava.ajdari@gmail.com09:18
sladennava: to which exact email list?09:18
navaunity-design09:18
navasladen : did u find it ?09:24
AlanBellnava: I don't see it either09:25
navasubject : updated mock up09:26
navasent from nava.ajdari@gmail.com09:26
AlanBellhttps://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/date.html09:27
navano prblem if cant find it (i sent it last night about 11.30 UTC)09:28
navai can explain it here09:28
navaI have an idea to give user to choose full-screen with luncher or without it, even i checked mac OSX to check how to do it, i think we can let user to choose between full screen with luncher or with out it very simply like when user LEFT click with mouse on maximized button on window it go full screen with luncher OR when user middle click on maximized button it go full screen without luncher (like 11.10)09:31
MrChrisDruifThis is the Ubuntu Design launchpad group/mailing-list? https://launchpad.net/~unity-design09:39
navaunity-design@lists.launchpad.net09:44
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cprofitthello all13:59
cprofittanyone know if we have an art related part of the global jam?13:59
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gotwighey there15:50
gotwigeh I need an icon design for my lens, could someone help me?15:50
gotwigwith it you are able to search for recips in the internet15:51
gotwigyou can directly see the like's the level, etc. it should be some way of monochrome, so like the other icons for lenses15:51
cprofitthey jono15:51
jonohey cprofitt15:52
gotwigJohnLea: hey15:52
JohnLeagotwig; hyia15:58
cprofitthiya JohnLea15:58
gotwighas anyone intresst in helping me with an icon :X?15:59
gotwigdoing an icon, or someone can also do it for me.. on base of an other. A spoon I think would be good (for cooking lens )15:59
cprofittgotwig: I am trying to get an Art Jam going16:00
cprofittperhaps we can get an icon for you then16:00
cprofitthttp://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/16:00
gotwigcprofitt: :-)16:02
gotwigcprofitt: still have to work on functionality. You know its my first realy productive python app :D16:03
etneg_hey kenvandine16:32
etneg_kenvandine: i updated another concept, its on the wiki16:33
etneg_letme know what you think16:33
kenvandinehey etneg_16:36
kenvandinecool, i'll look in a bit16:36
cprofittetneg_: which wiki?16:53
etneg_kenvandine: sweet17:09
etneg_cprofitt: https://live.gnome.org/Gwibber/LogoConcepts17:10
cprofittooh... very nice etneg_17:10
etneg_oh its not just mine17:10
etneg_it;s concepts fro others too17:10
etneg_heh17:10
etneg_kenvandine put up the wiki17:10
cprofittconcept 7 has a clean look17:10
etneg_that isnt mine, no idea who that belongs to17:11
cprofittI like concept 1, but not sure of the 'brownish' color... and it is a bit complex17:11
cprofittetneg_: which one isyours?17:11
etneg_1, 2, 6, 917:11
etneg_2 is scrapped17:12
cprofittyeah... two is not one I would choose...17:12
kenvandinei like 1, 6 and 717:12
cprofittI like 1, but the brownish red color on the circle G I am not sure of17:12
etneg_there's only orange there17:13
etneg_well orange+ yellow17:13
cprofittperhaps it is the color profile of my lame lcd on this Lenovo17:13
etneg_and to give it  bit more glossy effect i added another grapevine red somewhere there17:13
cprofittkenvandine: yeah, 7 is very clean looking17:14
etneg_fromthe votes i took for my stuff, lot of them went with 6 and 917:16
etneg_1 was considered okayish, but complex17:16
cprofitt+117:18
etneg_though people liked the icon version of 1 since i removed some elements17:18
etneg_but thats not what kenvandine  wants, he wants the faces there17:19
kenvandinei do like the faces :)17:21
etneg_ye so:D17:21
etneg_it isnt as complex as you think though17:22
etneg_it's got a lot of elements, but little effects17:22
etneg_you could have two elements and 20 effects on it and that would be consideered complex if you ask me17:22
* cprofitt nods17:23
cprofittI agree with that17:23
etneg_:D17:23
cprofittI always struggle when doing art...17:25
cprofittthen again with FOSS tools part of that is just not being familiar with the tools17:26
cprofittI used Corel Photo Paint / Draw for years and years and years17:26
etneg_i havent touched that in a long long time17:26
etneg_i do work with photoshop now and then but not for logo stuff, vectors clearly wins here17:27
* cprofitt nods17:27
cprofittI never used photoshop17:27
cprofittwas always too expensive17:27
cprofittI use Gimp and Inkscape now17:27
cprofittbut not quite as proficient with them as with Corel tools17:27
etneg_inkscape is nice but it's got some catching up to do17:27
cprofittyep17:28
cprofittI would pay if Corel put out their tools for Linux17:28
etneg_i call it the power of blur, with blurs inkscape is nice to get all the realism you want17:28
etneg_but that is an effect17:28
etneg_heh17:28
etneg_ive got corel sketch pad or smething, came with the wacom17:29
etneg_never used it17:29
cprofittso you guys going to take part in the Ubuntu Global Jam and submit some art during the jam?17:30
cprofittWould be great to have some folks work on some web banners, fliers and posters for 12.0417:30
etneg_i have no idea17:30
etneg_never even heard of it17:30
cprofitthttp://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/17:30
etneg_my second projec with ubuntu is kenvandine's stuff17:30
etneg_thatas about it17:31
etneg_heh17:31
cprofittthe global jam is typically seen as technical, but I think art is just as much a part of the Ubuntu Community17:31
cprofittand very important for moving the project forward17:31
cprofittI am trying to get some students from the local university to partake too17:31
cprofitthey, ara17:32
arahey cprofitt17:32
cprofittetneg_: I would love to see you cut loose on some stuff for 12.04 - beyond icons17:32
etneg_oh ok cool17:32
etneg_like wallpapers?17:32
cprofittthe design you had in 1 on the wiki would be really cool for some web banner, stuff or one some fliers for 12.0417:33
cprofittwallpapers, fliers, posters, web banners17:33
etneg_just in vectors?17:33
etneg_sure hwy not17:33
cprofittI would work in vectors... but the web stuff may need to be converted to .png or .jpg17:33
cprofittfliers would likely stay vectors17:33
cprofitttake a look at this site17:34
cprofitthttp://spreadubuntu.org/en/node/52917:34
cprofittthey have lots of community submissions17:34
etneg_yeh it'll exported to pngs  or jpegs17:34
cprofittthis was an old poster that I really liked17:35
cprofitthttp://bligoo.com/media/users/0/47/images/ubuntu_highway_by_gasteropod.jpg17:35
cprofittbut the colors and feel no longer really match the current Ubuntu theme17:35
etneg_oo posters17:35
etneg_and that looks like post production was done in some raster app like gimp or something17:36
cprofittyeah17:36
etneg_which is why i asked, fully vector or hacked up? :P17:36
cprofittI took the source from that and made a large poster for events my loco goes too17:36
cprofitthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/2011032417:36
cprofittthat was likely converted -- the image I gave you17:36
etneg_ah ok17:36
cprofittthe source was vector which allowed me to blow it up for that poster in the events link17:37
etneg_ok if you're looking at posters and sutff i'll pass for the time being though17:37
etneg_i could do it in vectors but it's time consuming and the results are okayish unless i spend 100hrs on it trying to capture realism17:38
cprofittanything is great17:38
etneg_i was htinking of doing wallpapers for ubuntu17:38
etneg_but im jsut sticking to logos for now, since ive gotten into the 3d bandwagon and it'llbe a month ebfore i can do anything realistic17:38
etneg_and the results from 3d are  far far better than 2d vectors17:39
cprofittanything at all helps us... I am just happy to get artists involved17:39
etneg_sure17:39
etneg_i'll be around:D17:39
cprofittwould you do a logo for New York?17:40
etneg_sure why not17:40
* etneg_ is from ny17:40
cprofittBe crazy and surprise me dude17:40
etneg_what doyou need?17:40
cprofitttwo things if possible17:40
cprofittsomething to replace this17:41
cprofitthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=newyorkteamlogo3.png17:41
cprofittsorry for the long link17:41
cprofittand I would love a header for a web page...17:41
etneg_hehwhat is that17:41
etneg_map ofny ?17:41
etneg_ooh i see it17:42
etneg_ubuntu + map of ny17:42
cprofittthat was representative of NY -- niagra falls to statue of liberty or something17:42
cprofittyep, that version is really small17:42
etneg_you need a logo then?17:42
cprofittthe logo has NY LOCO and the ubuntu circile + state map17:42
cprofittbut I would be willing to see that replaced by other ideas17:43
etneg_i can work on fresh ideas if you like17:43
cprofittyeah... I would really like that17:43
etneg_whats the  context you need in it? NY LOCO, anything else?17:43
cprofittthat logo has been there for 5-6 years17:43
cprofittjust the NY and LOO17:44
cprofittLoco17:44
etneg_you're a fan of sketch brush work?17:44
cprofittthough if the graphic really is recognizable as NY then the words could be left out17:44
etneg_the NY looks like a sketch brush17:44
etneg_and you've used the same sketching style in the poster as well17:44
cprofittI have no preference as far as that goes17:44
cprofittneither image was mine17:45
etneg_oh k17:45
cprofittI like glassy as well17:45
etneg_k cool17:45
etneg_web2.017:45
cprofittthis is some of my work17:45
cprofitthttp://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/lugor-logo-part-5/17:45
etneg_while the gloss looks right17:46
etneg_that trace bitmap on that image looks pretty messed up and is an awful lot for a logo if you ask me17:46
cprofittthose were some of the first efforts with GIMP17:46
cprofittso they are far from perfect17:47
etneg_oh its all in gimp/17:47
etneg_?17:47
cprofittyeah17:47
cprofittall gimp17:47
etneg_oh ok17:47
cprofittand it was 100% targeted for a web page banner17:47
etneg_ah ye for a banner it'll fit17:47
etneg_for a logo too much going on there with the arhictecture17:48
cprofitthttp://lugor.org/17:48
cprofittthat is what ended up being used when it was done17:48
etneg_did you try printing that?17:48
cprofittI did. I used it on some 8.5x11" posters we use at showed17:49
cprofittwith Photo Glossy paper it looks pretty good17:49
etneg_not bad17:49
etneg_oh you used a normal printer to print it out17:49
etneg_not offset ?17:49
cprofittyou can kind of see the poster in this picture17:50
cprofitthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/2011050517:50
cprofittan inkjet17:50
etneg_ok17:50
cprofittthis one too17:50
cprofitthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/2011042317:50
cprofittyeah... I am by no means a professional artist17:50
cprofittI need a lot of help in that department17:50
etneg_imno pro either but i cna design your logo!17:51
cprofittI have just enough skills to cover for a little while17:51
cprofittawesome dude... that would rock17:51
cprofittyou can email me at any time at cprofitt at ubuntu dot com17:51
etneg_alright17:51
etneg_i'll put together something in abit17:51
etneg_just gimme feedback via mail or irc and i'll keep going at it:P17:53
cprofittsounds great etneg_17:56
cprofittI am stoked!!17:56
* etneg_ heads to the drawing board17:56
cprofittI nominate etneg_, the artist, for a community trophy!!17:59

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