[06:52] <philipballew_> Can someone add a member cloak too my name?
[06:52]  * philipballew_ would do it himself but the laws of nature prevent it
[06:57] <philipballew_> if noone does it's okay. but in the mean time feel free to see my ip address and scan my ports. might be fun.
[06:57] <pangolin> philipballew_: 5 hours ago you had a @ubuntu/member cloak
[06:57] <pangolin> what happened to it?
[06:58] <philipballew_> pangolin, i have a desktop and laptop. my laptop is currently the name with the _ on it. figured i should identify both names
[06:58] <pangolin> right but the cloak is applied to the account and not the ip, so if you are identified to the account that was cloaked you should be cloaked at the moment
[06:59] <Unit193> pangolin: account  : philipballew_
[06:59] <pangolin> if you have multiple accounts. I suggest you /msg nickserv identify account_with_cloak password
[07:00] <philipballew_> pangolin, i identified my account 10 minutes ago!
[07:00] <pangolin> I don't believe you will be given a second @ubuntu/member cloak but i could be wrong
[07:00]  * philipballew_ high fives Unit193 
[07:00] <pangolin> philipballew_: so why was your cloak not applied?
[07:00] <Unit193> philipballew_: See /msg nickserv help group
[07:01] <Unit193> pangolin: Two accounts.
[07:01] <VorTechS> philipballew_: do you have an alternative account to the one you are using now?
[07:01] <philipballew_> ^ yeah! Unit193 stole the words right from my fingers
[07:01] <pangolin> Unit193: exactly, and is why i don't believe the IRCC will ACK another cloak for him
[07:01] <pangolin> philipballew_: identify to the account that has the cloak applied
[07:02] <philipballew_> i could, but the other account is open on my desktop a quater mile away.
[07:02] <pangolin> so?
[07:02] <pangolin> you can ident with multiple clients
[07:03] <pangolin> to the same accoun
[07:03] <pangolin> account*
[07:03] <philipballew_> thats true... but thats not the default and its not gonna always log in with that
[07:04] <pangolin> Like I said I do not believe that the IRCC will allow the same cloak on multiple accounts
[07:05] <philipballew_> i know, but thats why I did ask. What is the harm in asking my friend :)
[07:05] <pangolin> in the mean time you can /msg nickserv identify account password
[07:05] <Unit193> philipballew_: Is there a reason you don't just group the nick?
[07:05] <philipballew_> Unit193, what do you mean?
[07:05] <Unit193> Group, have more than one nick on an account.
[07:05] <pangolin> group allows you to link more then one nick to the same account
[07:06] <pangolin> /msg nickserv help group
[07:06] <philipballew_> idk. never thought about.
[07:06] <pangolin> you should :)
[07:06]  * Unit193 has done it
[07:06]  * head_victim has 5 grouped nicks
[07:07]  * pangolin has 14 nicks on this account iirc
[07:07] <pangolin> I also only have one account
[07:07] <philipballew_> would that apply my cloak to my new name
[07:07] <head_victim> Hah, pangolin wins :/
[07:07] <Unit193> pangolin: Wow...
[07:07] <Unit193> philipballew_: Yeppers
[07:07] <philipballew_> I should look into it probably.
[07:07] <philipballew_> irc confuses me
[07:07] <pangolin> ah, 13. I dropped a few
[07:08] <Unit193> That's still quite a number, I have less, but two accounts (one bot acct)
[07:08] <pangolin> philipballew_: you really should, it is the correct way of doing what it is you are asking
[07:08] <philipballew_> is it possible to have both my desktop and laptop logged in as philipballew at the same time?
[07:09] <pangolin> no
[07:09] <pangolin> only one client can use a nick at a time
[07:09] <pangolin> but
[07:09] <pangolin> you can have philipballew_ and philipballew both identified with the same password
[07:10] <Unit193> philipballew_: Both on same account, but different grouped nicks.
[07:10] <pangolin> well, actually if you are using a bnc you can have multiple clients using the same nick but that is a little more involved
[07:11] <philipballew_> thats what i have currently. same password and same email. there not grouped though afik
[07:11] <Unit193> Or irssi...
[07:11] <philipballew_> xchat!
[07:12] <pangolin> philipballew_: ok, first you will need to DROP this account /msg nickserv help drop and then you will group this nick /msg nickserv help group with the account that has the cloak
[07:13] <philipballew_> now all the people i troll on in irc wont have my ip address!!!
[07:13] <pangolin> your an Ubuntu member, you shouldn't be trolling!
[07:13] <pangolin> :P
[07:13] <pangolin> you're
[07:14]  * philipballew_ still wonders why he's a ubuntu member sometimes...
[07:16] <philipballew_> if only they know i have no idea what i am doing
[07:16] <Myrtti>  we all just fake and wing it
[07:17] <Myrtti> nothing wrong with that ;-)
[07:17] <pangolin> Myrtti: you are staff, am I correct in assuming that multiple accounts don't get the same cloak?
[07:23] <Myrtti> we certainly try to avoid it
[07:24] <pangolin> philipballew_: you don't need to go home to get this done
[07:24] <philipballew_> pangolin, why not? i cant be loged in from the same nick on two different comp's
[07:24] <pangolin> /msg nickserv identify philipballew password
[07:24] <pangolin> wait
[07:24] <pangolin> first
[07:25] <pangolin> .... gimme a second
[07:25]  * philipballew_ waits
[07:25] <pangolin> /msg nickserv drop philipballew_ password
[07:25] <Unit193> Drop, identify, group.
[07:26] <philipballew_> yeah, but i need to be logged in as philipballew when i group right?
[07:26] <pangolin> right and you will be
[07:26] <pangolin> did you drop philipballew_ yet?
[07:26] <Unit193> philipballew_: Just follow pangolin, he knows what he's doing.
[07:27]  * philipballew_ follows pangolin 
[07:27] <pangolin> ok
[07:27] <pangolin> so first
[07:27] <pangolin> /msg nickserv drop philipballew_ password
[07:27] <philipballew_> hey! i dropped it
[07:27] <pangolin> good
[07:27] <pangolin> /msg nickserv identify philipballew password
[07:27] <Myrtti>  good
[07:28] <pangolin> there ya go
[07:28] <pangolin> all done
[07:28] <pangolin> now
[07:28] <pangolin> last thing
[07:28] <pangolin> /msg nickserv group
[07:28]  * philipballew_ does the last thing
[07:29] <Myrtti>  congrats
[07:29] <pangolin> now to see what nicks you have group to the philipballew account you can /msg nickserv info philipballew
[07:29] <philipballew_> I should hold a party now
[07:29] <philipballew_> if you guys come to San Diego right now i'll buy some cake!
[07:29] <Unit193> Only you can see the grouped nicks (well, and staff)
[07:29] <pangolin> that command will show you a whol bunch of info about your account
[07:29] <pangolin> whole*
[07:30]  * Myrtti followed the gears go kthunk in the background 
[07:30] <philipballew_> so now if i re log in my cloak will be set
[07:30] <pangolin> yes now all you need is to identify to the main account, philipballew
[07:31] <Myrtti> he already is now
[07:31] <pangolin> yes sorry, I meant in the future
[07:31] <Myrtti> but for the future it's all set
[07:31] <philipballew_> but that is still logged in back home?
[07:31] <pangolin> philipballew_: it is
[07:31] <Myrtti> should be yes
[07:31] <pangolin> * [philipballew] (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew): philip ballew
[07:32]  * philipballew_ unless my computer crashed...
[07:32] <pangolin> it is still logged in
[07:32] <philipballew_> if it did, i'd beat the crap out of it.
[07:32] <philipballew_> gotta teach it a lesson.
[07:32] <pangolin> don't abuse the computer. user error is the main cause of most problems
[07:33] <philipballew_> i am a error when it comes to computers
[07:34] <philipballew_> i had a desktop once that the cd drive would only open when i hot on it really hard
[07:34] <dholbach> good morning
[07:34] <Unit193> Good morning, dholbach.
[07:35] <dholbach> hi Unit193
[07:35] <philipballew_> how goes it dholbach ?
[07:36] <dholbach> philipballew_, good good, thanks - how about you?
[07:38] <philipballew_> dholbach, Glad to hear life is swell. I am great, or at least I tell myself that until I believe it! :)
[07:39] <dholbach> autosuggestion always works - it has to!
[07:40] <philipballew_> well off to try to get some sleep! peace my friends
[07:42] <Myrtti> dholbach: I've been thinking of the email to the CC and I am still missing words on how to answer it about eruSUL, I'm sorry
[07:42] <dholbach> Myrtti, don't worry - take your time
[15:17] <Unit193> Well, !wubi is just *slightly* outdated.
[15:22] <Tm_T> update it then? (;
[15:22] <Unit193> I couldn't last I knew.
[15:23] <Unit193> And you can't do multi sed args with ubottu can you?
[15:23] <Tm_T> prolly not multi
[15:23] <Tm_T> you can suggest new version
[15:24] <Unit193> Bummer, and Alan found me.
[15:24] <Tm_T> awww
[15:38] <Unit193> Also, I noticed ubot2` is a little outdated....
[15:38] <Unit193> ubot2`: download
[15:38] <ubot2`> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Karmic, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[15:39] <Unit193> Anyway...
[20:15] <pangolin> Unit193: Nothing stopping you from doing a /msg ubot* THIS is <reply> Some stuff about what this is.
[20:16] <Unit193> pangolin: While that being true, this is about the same thing, only I don't hilight myself. :P
[20:16] <Unit193> Does it really help any?
[20:17] <pangolin> I don't understand what you mean
[20:17] <pangolin> what does hilighting yourself have to do with suggesting factoid edits?
[20:17] <Unit193> Does it help to do it the other way? And ubot2` is *supposed* to be in sync.
[20:18] <Unit193> pangolin: Nothing, ignore that part.
[20:18] <pangolin> well you can send all factoid edits to ubottu if you like and yes the bots are supposed to sync but sometimes that does not happen
[20:20] <Unit193> Yes, just saying sending to that bot I wouldn't think would be the fix.