[00:01] <malin> buss daemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845168/  and buss.lens  http://paste.ubuntu.com/845171/
[00:06] <davidcalle> "NÃ¥r gÃ¥r bussen.." (I have an utf-8 bug in my term)
[00:08] <davidcalle> malin, there is a problem in your .lens file :  Name and Icon need to be capitalized.
[00:08] <davidcalle> Name=Buss
[00:08] <davidcalle> Icon=/usr/share/unity/5/buss.svg
[00:08] <malin> davidcalle: ah, but it works for me, but i could remove the norwegian letters
[00:09] <davidcalle> malin, it was working when I tried it the first time. It's just now, a crash that has messed up my utf8 :)
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> hey
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> unity
[00:10] <FloatingGoat> oh
[00:10] <FloatingGoat> how wonderus it is
[00:10] <FloatingGoat> im so glad i stuck around
[00:10] <FloatingGoat> i knew it would pay off
[00:10] <malin> davidcalle: so net.buss.lens.buss should be: Net.Buss.Lens.Buss  ? and in the icon-file should change from buss.svg to Buss.svg ?
[00:10] <malin> or is it icon to ICon
[00:10] <malin> ah, that what it is. I see
[00:11] <davidcalle> malin, nope, just "name" to "Name" and "icon" to Icon"
[00:12] <malin> davidcalle: okey
[00:12] <malin> and the daemon-file is okey as it is? I get the norwegian letters in my terminal
[00:14] <davidcalle> malin, looks fine, you can remove the "_m = dir(Dee.SequenceModel)"
[00:14] <malin> holy sh....t it it it.. I can't belive it.. I see an icon in the dash
[00:15] <malin> I dreamd of it last night
[00:15] <davidcalle> :)
[00:15] <malin> so that line is just to be removed :) okey
[00:15] <davidcalle> yeah
[00:16] <malin> it just dosen't print anything to the dash
[00:16] <malin> but this was a huge step forward
[00:16] <davidcalle> malin, indeed
[00:17] <malin> it prints to the terminal
[00:17] <malin> but not in the dash :) hehe
[00:18] <davidcalle> malin, I got to go, ping me tomorrow if you need some more help. Good night ;)
[00:18] <malin> thank you so much for helping me out the evening
[00:19] <malin> I think I need more help and maybe tomorro :)
[00:19] <malin> have a good night :)
[00:19] <davidcalle> No problem!
[00:19] <malin> :)
[01:16] <mhall119> is there any standard or convention that should be followed when choosing a dbus name/path for a Lens or Scope?
[01:27] <thomi> bschaefer: ping?
[01:36] <bschaefer> hey thomi
[01:37] <thomi> hi - there's a new version of by ibus testing branch, with several more tests.. I wonder if you're willing to try them out at some point?
[01:37] <bschaefer> yes i can!
[01:37] <bschaefer> ill pull the changes and let you know
[01:37] <thomi> sweet - we're missing a bit of introspection inside unity to complete the tests (ideally we'd verify that the correct apps show up in the results)...
[01:38] <thomi> for e.g.- when you search 'photo' (but in chinese) you should see shotwell
[01:38] <thomi> also, apparently this should work no matter what locale you have set locally.
[01:38] <bschaefer> o yes, testing the CJK parsing through xapian
[01:38] <bschaefer> yup :)
[01:38] <thomi> coolio
[01:39] <bschaefer> that is also something I worked on haha
[01:39] <thomi> keep me posted if anything interesting happens OK? :)
[01:39] <bschaefer> will do! Should be able to do in a couple min
[01:45] <bschaefer> thomi, everything worked except cipan guanli
[01:45] <bschaefer> it was in english
[01:45] <bschaefer> though my compiz freaked out
[01:45] <thomi> hmmm
[01:45] <thomi> try it again maybe?
[01:46] <thomi> compiz freaking out isn't a good sign ;
[01:46] <thomi> )
[01:46] <bschaefer> im doing it, and yeah the only one not in chinese is "cipan guanli"
[01:46] <bschaefer> but im using a different TextEntry
[01:47] <bschaefer> like im moving the ibus support form unity to nux and these changes should be coming in by the end of the week
[01:47] <bschaefer> though im not sure how that would effect the test...
[01:47] <bschaefer> thomi, nevermind it worked :)
[01:47] <thomi> sweet
[01:48] <bschaefer> a big thing we will need to add test for is ibus-hangul
[01:48] <thomi> hangul?
[01:48] <bschaefer> and making sure the space gets committed correctly, but Ill talk to you about it when the code langs
[01:48] <bschaefer> hangul = korean
[01:51] <thomi> bschaefer: ahh, ok
[01:51] <thomi> well, if we have good test data the tests should be trivial to write
[01:52] <bschaefer> thomi, but awesome work! The test will be very to easy to write now!
[01:52] <bschaefer> thomi, also for pinyin we can test tab, the arrow keys
[01:52] <thomi> I'm not very happy about the way we initialise the engine, it seems a bit cludgy, but it seems to work anyway
[01:52] <bschaefer> they change pages on the popup box
[01:53] <bschaefer> thomi, yeah, I need to take a better look into it!
[01:53] <thomi> ahhh, ok
[01:53] <thomi> well, it's probably not worth spending much time on right now
[01:53] <bschaefer> yeah, soon though!
[01:54] <bschaefer> thomi, as I have to dig through ibus's source files for the python apo
[01:54] <bschaefer> and the online version isn't very helpful with set_value and get_value (which I think we will need to use more of)
[01:54] <thomi> bschaefer: ahhh.. what are you looking for?
[01:55] <bschaefer> thomi, well right now I want to be able to get inactive engines and set them as active, so we dont ever have to open up "ibus-setup"
[01:55] <thomi> bschaefer: I do that in my code
[01:55] <thomi> check out autopilot/emulators/ibus.py
[01:55] <bschaefer> thomi, well I need to dig through your code!
[01:56] <thomi> well, I can return both a list of active and inactive engines
[01:56] <bschaefer> yeah
[01:56] <thomi> I *think* I know how to make an engine active.... with a bit of digging
[01:56] <bschaefer> but when I tried setting the inactive ones using set_gloabl_engines I was getting a runtime error
[01:56] <thomi> hmm,
[01:56] <thomi> OK, I'll look into that
[01:56] <bschaefer> saying it wasn't active
[01:57] <bschaefer> but! A good place to look is
[01:57] <bschaefer> ibus/setup
[01:57] <bschaefer> if you download the source
[01:57] <bschaefer> as it has that entire "ibus-setup" source code which is doing that when you hit the add key
[01:57] <bschaefer> Im just not as good as reading python code ;)
[01:59] <bschaefer> thomi,  DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Can not find engine pinyin.
[01:59] <bschaefer> is what that test does when you remove pinyin from "ibus-setup"
[01:59] <bschaefer> under the active list
[01:59] <bschaefer> thomi, thats why I just used the active list cause I couldn't find how to add them :(
[02:00] <thomi> ahh, ok
[02:00] <thomi> Yeah, I was trying to read the src for ibus-setup yesterday.
[02:00] <bschaefer> sorry I should have said that
[02:01] <thomi> it's not that python code's hard to read, it's that *that* python code is hard to read ;)
[02:01] <bschaefer> haha that is what I was thinking
[02:01] <bschaefer> so I need to figure out how the add is working
[02:02] <bschaefer> what ill do is start tinkering with the add code and start commenting stuff out until I break it haha
[02:02] <bschaefer> ill try to do that this weekend or next week :)
[02:02] <bschaefer> thomi, we also have some test from nux coming in to cover a lot of this too!
[02:03] <thomi> cool
[02:13] <FloatingGoat> whoever came up with the pressure reveal
[02:14] <FloatingGoat> is a friggin genius
[02:16] <FloatingGoat> seriously
[02:50] <bschaefer> thumper, hey, do you have a sec? An update on ibus stuff
[02:50] <thumper> bschaefer: I'm just about to head into town to buy a new toaster :)
[02:50] <thumper> bschaefer: whazzup?
[02:50] <bschaefer> thumper, awesome! I need to get one...haha
[02:50] <bschaefer> so right now
[02:50] <bschaefer> the ibus works 100% in the Hud
[02:51] <bschaefer> but for some reason in the dash it seems to lose the popup box sometimes
[02:51] <thumper> hmm
[02:51] <bschaefer> when you have multiple windows, and the cursor is not correct
[02:51] <thumper> there is a bit of code somewhere that is stealing focus
[02:51] <thumper> which the hud is being super careful of
[02:51] <thumper> so that may be the difference there
[02:52] <bschaefer> yeah, I was also look at this over OverlayRenderer
[02:52] <bschaefer> which the Hud uses and not Dash
[02:53] <bschaefer> but thats good to know; but what is nice is everything is working correctly for ibus ;)
[02:53] <bschaefer> nux wise
[02:53] <bschaefer> and copy/cut/paste still works until we get that into nux
[02:54] <bschaefer> so all I have to do is figure out who is stealing focus, and or why the dash isn't rendering the box correctly
[02:54] <thumper> cool
[02:54] <thumper> awesome to hear
[02:54]  * thumper away for a bit
[02:54] <bschaefer> and we will have a solid release :)
[02:54] <bschaefer> good luck getting the right toaster!
[05:23] <rectec> I'm not very clear on HUD's development. Will the code be merged with Unity? If so, does anybody know when?
[05:28] <rectec> Won't it be merged with Trunk?
[07:48] <gotwig> mhall119: morning :-)!
[07:49] <gotwig> mhall119: please help with my lens: ./cooking-lens   File "./cooking-lens", line 41     filters = []     ^ IndentationError: unexpected indent
[07:49] <gotwig> mhall119: what do I have to import, and how?
[08:00] <rye> Aha! with HUD one cannot do Alt+PrintScreen
[08:00] <rye> because this combination only works (for some reason) when alt is depressed
[08:15] <rye> gotwig, re: IndentationError - it means that the code is not indented properly, i.e. not enough or more than needed spaces at the line indicated
[08:20] <davidcalle> didrocks, hello. Just so you know, MIR accepted on the video lens and scope.
[08:20] <didrocks> davidcalle: woow! I'll make unity recommends it
[08:21] <gotwig> rye: what you mean
[08:21] <rye> gotwig, your message to mhall119
[08:22] <davidcalle> didrocks, thanks :)
[08:23] <gotwig> rye: yes, but I still dont understand it...
[08:24] <rye> gotwig, in python, there are no block delimiters, could you please pastebin the code so that I could tell what's wrong?
[08:24] <gotwig> rye: yes
[08:26] <rye> gotwig, have you programmed earlier in any other language?
[08:27] <gotwig> rye: I am still programming in other languages
[08:27] <gotwig> rye: Java
[08:27] <gotwig> rye: I am still a student :X
[08:27] <rye> gotwig, ah, then the habit of indentation vs blocks will kick in... It took a while for me - i migrated from Perl :)
[08:28] <gotwig> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845480/
[08:28] <gotwig> rye: hm, I just wanna do this lens/scope I've been working for it so long
[08:28] <gotwig> rye: I have to cancel developing it today I think
[08:29] <gotwig> rye: for longer time, becouse I won't have the time in future..
[08:29] <rye> gotwig, ah, the whole code is not indented correctly
[08:29] <gotwig> rye: so how may I do it ^^?
[08:29] <gotwig> rye: I tried to merge something from original Python code for lenses with code from singlet library
[08:29] <rye> gotwig, give me a minute
[08:29] <gotwig> rye: wanna see the scope for it?
[08:30] <gotwig> rye: I think I will commit it to my bzr branch... wait
[08:32] <rye> gotwig, quick hint - it's recipes, not recips
[08:32] <rye> gotwig, and another question - where did you get the boilerplate code from?
[08:33] <gotwig> rye: from the python example for lens and scopes ( that simple lens, and wikipedia scope) , and from a singlet example
[08:34] <gotwig> rye: I dont realy know how to do it it with singlet
[08:35] <rye> gotwig, do you have the link to that wikipedia scope?
[08:35] <gotwig> rye: wait
[08:35] <davidcalle> rye, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-lens-sample/python-5.0
[08:36] <gotwig> rye: and why for the scope?
[08:38] <gotwig> rye: thats the code for my scope : http://paste.ubuntu.com/845492/
[08:39] <gotwig> rye: the bus names are different, right?
[08:40] <rye> gotwig, hm, I think you have mixed singlet and sample which are not directly compatible in the lens, the scope you pasted is ok
[08:40] <rye> davidcalle, thanks!
[08:40] <gotwig> rye: :D juhu , I worked long on the scope
[08:41] <gotwig> rye: just began to work on a lens
[08:41] <gotwig> rye: can you help me?
[08:41] <gotwig> rye: I dont know if I should choose singlet or the normal python gobject code
[08:42] <rye> gotwig, let me try to run the example lens first (i always wanted to see how it works :)
[08:44] <rye> erm, is unity supposed to crash when i run setsid
[08:48] <gotwig> rye: could be, just restart all, than run the lens, than run the scope
[08:50] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you said you can have VBox with multiple screens, anywhere I can read on that?
[08:50] <tsdgeos> Saviq: Gerry said it, i tried, failed miserably
[08:50] <Saviq> oh
[08:50] <tsdgeos> Saviq: basically in the settings  of the VM there is a "Screens" setting
[08:50] <tsdgeos> you can set it to two there
[08:50] <tsdgeos> but the inner VM never detected 2
[08:51] <tsdgeos> even if i had "two" virtualBox screens
[08:51] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ah :/
[08:51] <tsdgeos> Saviq: but give it a try, it's like 5 sec to try :D
[08:51] <Saviq> doing that now
[08:51] <Saviq> so it requires to go fullscreen then
[08:52] <tsdgeos> does it?
[08:52] <tsdgeos> it didn't here
[08:52] <tsdgeos> maybe that is what broke :D
[08:53] <Saviq> stoopid
[08:53] <Saviq> it complained about only one screen being connected
[08:53] <Saviq> just to open two windows on one screen when I connected the second one
[08:55] <gotwig> Saviq: lol
[08:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, seems to work, kind of
[08:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: did you have to disconnect the second real screen?
[08:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, no
[08:57] <tsdgeos> did you have to go fullscreen?
[08:57] <Saviq> no
[08:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, but it helps a lot with the perception of it
[08:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I could have two small windows next to each other that worked fine
[08:59] <tsdgeos> :-/
[08:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, when I switched to fullscreen
[08:59] <tsdgeos> i mean :-/ it doesn't work for me :D
[08:59] <greyback> morning
[08:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, each of them fullscreened on two separate screens
[08:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and then I had to tweak the displays _inside_ the vm
[08:59] <Saviq> i.e. xrandr
[08:59] <Saviq> 'cause they cloned instead of being left/right
[09:00] <tsdgeos> xrandr does not recognize two displays here
[09:00] <tsdgeos> Saviq: which driver are you using inside the VM ?
[09:01] <Saviq> tsdgeos, vboxvideo
[09:01] <Saviq> tsdgeos, although I might be using the non-OSE version
[09:02] <Saviq> let me check
[09:02] <Saviq> yeah virtualbox-4.1-4.1.8-75467~Ubuntu~oneiric
[09:02] <tsdgeos> aaaah
[09:02] <tsdgeos> i'm usign the vesa_Drv
[09:02] <Saviq> well
[09:02] <tsdgeos> no vboxvideo driver here
[09:03] <Saviq> that explains stuff
[09:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you need to install the additions
[09:03] <tsdgeos> i tried
[09:03] <tsdgeos> something failed
[09:03] <tsdgeos> let me check again
[09:03] <Saviq> well, jockey should tell you to do so
[09:03] <gotwig> rye: ok, I changed many things
[09:03] <gotwig> rye: now I only have problems with dbus
[09:04] <gotwig> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845514/
[09:04] <gotwig> rye: afk for 20 min's :-)
[09:05] <rye> erm, Am i correct that the wikipedia.scope and sample.lens are completely unrelated?
[09:05] <rye> gotwig, you still have the dbus bus name  from the example
[09:05] <tsdgeos> installing the guest additions fails to compile utils.c
[09:06] <gotwig> rye: so where do I have to change it
[09:06] <davidcalle> rye, the sample lens can host any kind of scope. The wikipedia scope is to be considered also as a sample scope. They are here for learning purposes.
[09:06] <gotwig> rye: should I commit it to my bzr, so you can see all files?
[09:08] <tsdgeos> otoh using jockie seems to have worked
[09:09] <tsdgeos> cool
[09:15] <gotwig> dont know why
[09:15] <gotwig> but bzr sucks
[09:15] <gotwig> why do I have merge problems, if this is my 2.th commit o.0? an my first commit is totaly empty?
[09:15] <Saviq> tsdgeos, looking at the mm stuff... have you considered the HUD at all?
[09:15] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it's the exact same case as with the Dash
[09:16] <tsdgeos> not yet
[09:16] <tsdgeos> is the hud merged already?
[09:16] <Saviq> no, but just wanted to know whether you guys have in mind that we might have more than just one component to be moved around
[09:16] <tsdgeos> probably the same for the shortcuts overlay?
[09:16] <Saviq> yeah
[09:16] <tsdgeos> or shortcut overlay has to show on all screens?
[09:16] <Saviq> no, I don't think so
[09:17] <Saviq> hud should be merged soon, as in maybe even today
[09:17] <tsdgeos> added to the todo list
[09:17] <tsdgeos> so we don't forget about it
[09:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I tested out your move-dash branch quickly, seems to work nicely :)
[09:20] <tsdgeos> cool
[09:20] <Saviq> except for the second shell being positioned wrong
[09:20] <tsdgeos> lots of headaches not to lose focus and stuff
[09:20] <tsdgeos> Saviq: hide-mode 0 ?
[09:21] <Saviq> yes
[09:21] <tsdgeos> try hide-mode 1 :D
[09:21] <Saviq> ;)
[09:21] <tsdgeos> working on that as we speak
[09:22] <gotwig> oh forrgot bzr remove
[09:22] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah I saw yesterday that you had an idea on what's happening
[09:22] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup, better in hide-mode 1
[09:22] <gotwig> rye: https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking
[09:22] <gotwig> rye: afk
[09:23] <Saviq> greyback, hmm, is the lack of highlight _inside_ a focused launcher tile some new design?
[09:23] <Saviq> I'm only getting a glow
[09:23] <Saviq> around the tile
[09:24] <gotwig> can someone help? I have problems with dbus, why does the lens not work/communite with that scope? :/ https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking
[09:24] <htorque> Cimi:  hi! can you tell me if the thunderbird toolbar will stay light colored for 12.04? i modified the icons of two extensions and i don't want to change those again for nothing. ;-)
[09:25] <rye> by the way, bug #934055 :(
[09:25] <Cimi> htorque, light colored?
[09:25] <Cimi> screenshot?
[09:26] <davidcalle> gotwig, your .scope file is wrong
[09:26] <greyback> Saviq: no new design
[09:26] <Saviq> greyback, ok, checking with trunk
[09:26] <htorque> Cimi: http://i.imgur.com/ExpK6.png
[09:26] <rye> htorque, http://ubuntuone.com/2InpyFE2dUNV11zWijd7Ie - that's what you are referring to?
[09:26] <greyback> Saviq: I'm gonna propose hud2 for merge
[09:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can I see the TODO for MM so I don't bother you with known issues I find?
[09:27] <rye> ah, you guys have labels...
[09:27] <tsdgeos> sure
[09:28] <Saviq> tsdgeos, panels positioning doesn't seem to be there
[09:28] <davidcalle> gotwig, here is what a scope looks like. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-lens-videos/remote-videos/view/head:/video-remote.scope
[09:28] <tsdgeos> Saviq: waht do you mean by panel positioning?
[09:28] <Saviq> tsdgeos, currently multiple panels only work with screens lined up to their top edge
[09:29] <Saviq> but that should be easy now that panels now which screen they belong to
[09:29] <tsdgeos> Saviq: still don't get what is the problem
[09:29] <htorque> rye: yes, it was light-on-dark before, now it's the other way round. :-)
[09:29] <Saviq> i.e. they always align to y=0
[09:29] <tsdgeos> but note i have one screen "physically" behing the other :D
[09:29] <tsdgeos> so...
[09:29] <Saviq> tsdgeos, try having one above the other
[09:30] <tsdgeos> what would you expect?
[09:30] <tsdgeos> the down one having no panel?
[09:30] <Saviq> I would expect it to have a panel (I think)
[09:30] <tsdgeos> and it doesn't?
[09:30] <Saviq> no, both get stuck to top edge
[09:30] <Saviq> tsdgeos, both of your screens are the same res, right?
[09:31] <tsdgeos> they would be if the intel driver worked
[09:31] <tsdgeos> so not really
[09:31] <Saviq> tsdgeos, then align them by their bottom edge
[09:31] <Saviq> i.e. a left of b
[09:31] <Saviq> but not "common" top edge
[09:31] <Saviq> just move the smaller one down a bit
[09:31] <tsdgeos> i see
[09:32] <Saviq> all panels get stuck to the top edge of the desktop
[09:32] <Saviq> not screen
[09:32] <tsdgeos> Saviq: write that there
[09:32] <Saviq> I will
[09:34] <Saviq> tsdgeos, done
[09:35] <Saviq> greyback, is the last "in progress" item for HUD done?
[09:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can you alt+f1
[09:45] <Saviq> do you have the whole launcher item highlighted?
[09:46] <gotwig> davidcalle: does it work for you?
[09:47] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yeah
[09:47] <tsdgeos> doesn't work for you?
[09:47] <davidcalle> gotwig, I don't have the time to test it right now, sorry.
[09:47] <Saviq> tsdgeos, nope, just a glow around it
[09:48] <tsdgeos> ah true
[09:48] <tsdgeos> :D
[09:48] <Saviq> tsdgeos, must be something on my side then, ignore
[09:48] <Saviq> well, actually
[09:48] <tsdgeos> no no
[09:48] <tsdgeos> i can repro
[09:48] <tsdgeos> sorry
[09:48] <Saviq> ok then, bug
[09:49] <tsdgeos> Saviq: is that a pure unity-2d-shell bug?
[09:49] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i.e. does it work with 1 screen only?
[09:49] <tsdgeos> seems not
[09:50] <jofazepa> good morning
[09:50] <greyback> Saviq: just noticed background MR comments, need to deal with them first
[09:50] <gotwig> davidcalle: is my .lens file also wrong? it has the same format
[09:51] <davidcalle> gotwig, your .lens file looks right.
[09:51] <Saviq> tsdgeos, no, it's a trunk issue
[09:52] <gotwig> davidcalle: no
[09:52] <gotwig> davidcalle: it has an other namespace
[09:54] <gotwig> davidcalle: do I need a .service  fileß
[09:54] <Saviq> greyback, tsdgeos confirmed - in trunk launcher tiles don't get highlighted properly on focus
[09:55] <davidcalle> gotwig, only if you want your lens to start when the session does. But you don't need it at that point for things to work.
[09:55] <greyback> Saviq: damnation. And good catch
[09:58] <apw> anyone else seeing unity appindicator menus as only the shadow frame for the first use?
[09:58] <apw> bug #934072
[09:59] <apw> smb, ^^ i am seeing the same as you with different h/w, so i suspect its generic
[09:59] <smb> apw, True. So at least "good" it seems indipendant
[10:00] <apw> yep, handy you have radeon in this case
[10:00] <Saviq> The Internet is coming!
[10:00] <Saviq> bbiab
[10:08]  * tsdgeos is having more problems than expected with the _NET_WM_STRUT_PARTIAL thing
[10:09] <gotwig> davidcalle: it works partialy
[10:14] <gotwig> davidcalle: I can acess the lens, even the scope does not work, and there's no content http://paste.ubuntu.com/845514/
[10:14] <gotwig> davidcalle: is the error when i run the lens, is that even an error?
[10:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: there?
[10:20] <apw> unity launcher super+<number> shortcuts are now completely broken for already running applications
[10:20] <apw> bug #934084
[10:20] <gotwig> please tell me, if this is an error or not http://paste.ubuntu.com/845514/
[10:21] <davidcalle> gotwig, is the dbus path in your scope daemon /net/launchpad/scope/information/wikipedia ?
[10:22] <gotwig> davidcalle: you can see that in the bzr branch
[10:22] <gotwig> davidcalle: its not
[10:23] <davidcalle> gotwig, the dbus path in your scope daemon should match the one in your .scope
[10:23] <gotwig> davidcalle: it does?
[10:24] <gotwig> davidcalle: is the /net important?
[10:26] <gotwig> davidcalle: if I use the / I get another error
[10:27] <gotwig> davidcalle: NameError: name 'sys' is not defined
[10:29] <gotwig> davidcalle: solved. so now I get Failed to own name net.launchpad.lens.cooking. Bailing out.
[10:34] <davidcalle> gotwig, the Failed to own name means that the daemon is already running. So check if you have it running in an other terminal.
[10:34] <gotwig> davidcalle: :-)
[10:35] <gotwig> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845514/
[10:38] <gotwig> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845589/ , after I restart unity
[10:38] <davidcalle> gotwig, what's in your /usr/share/unity/lenses/<lensname folder?
[10:38] <gotwig> cooking.lens  cooking.svg  recipefy.scope
[10:39] <didrocks> davidcalle: I binNEWed the videdo lens btw
[10:39] <didrocks> it wasn't
[10:39] <didrocks> I need to push it to main now if you have the MIR ack bug # hadny
[10:39] <didrocks> handy*
[10:40] <davidcalle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-video-remote/+bug/933610
[10:40] <gotwig> davidcalle: but thats not a problem I think. The lens does start up, and works, but without the scope
[10:40] <davidcalle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-video/+bug/933609
[10:40] <davidcalle> didrocks, ^^
[10:40] <didrocks> thanks :)
[10:41] <davidcalle> didrocks, about the binNEWed, I don't know what it means :)
[10:41] <didrocks> meaning that the video lens wasn't available in ubuntu
[10:41] <davidcalle> didrocks, ok
[10:42] <gotwig> davidcalle: could be the scope not working?
[10:42] <davidcalle> gotwig, can you please paste your .scope file and .scope daemon ?
[10:43] <gotwig> davidcalle: I am pushing it right now. https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking
[10:43] <davidcalle> ok
[10:45] <gotwig> davidcalle: should be ready now
[10:47] <davidcalle> gotwig, 		in the lens daemon : self._lens = Unity.Lens.new ("/net/launchpad/lens/cooking", "sample") replace "sample" by "cooking"
[10:48] <gotwig> davidcalle: or I think I dont saw that
[10:50] <gotwig> davidcalle: libunity-WARNING **: unity-scope-factory.vala:110: Unable to load /usr/share/unity/lenses/cooking/recipefy.scope: Key file does not start with a group
[10:50] <didrocks> greyback: hey, do you have a minute?
[10:51] <gotwig> davidcalle: oh i see it
[10:51] <greyback> didrocks: for you, always
[10:51] <gotwig> davidcalle: do I need ['NAME']?
[10:51] <didrocks> greyback: so, basically, with the merger lab network issue we had, someone removed the lock without noticing
[10:51] <didrocks> greyback: we got 2 branches merged
[10:51] <greyback> didrocks: oh dear
[10:51] <greyback> didrocks: want me to revert them?
[10:51] <didrocks> greyback: I'm wondering if we can release with it or not (saw you discussed a regression previously)
[10:51] <didrocks> or revert yeah
[10:52] <didrocks> and then integrated them back
[10:52] <davidcalle> gotwig, where?
[10:52] <gotwig> davidcalle: its away
[10:53] <gotwig> davidcalle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845604/
[10:53] <gotwig> davidcalle: a properly error message, tough ^^
[10:54] <gotwig> davidcalle: yeah it works, partialy
[10:56] <greyback> didrocks: you can release with them. One is code cleanup,  the other adds transparency to the panel
[10:56] <didrocks> greyback: good, thanks for confirming :)
[10:56] <greyback> didrocks: np
[11:02] <gotwig> davidcalle: thanks for your help. now I only have scope error
[11:03] <davidcalle> gotwig, no problem. I got to go, if you need some help during the week-end, I should be around.
[11:36] <om26er> greyback, hey I was just looking into unity-2d I think the launcher_arrow_outline_rlt.png et all are updated
[11:37] <om26er> aren't they supposed to not use glow
[11:37] <om26er> *are not updated
[11:39] <apw> didrocks, are we aware that Super release handling is broken in unity ?
[11:39] <didrocks> apw: compiz -0ubuntu4 should fix it
[11:39] <didrocks> did you get it?
[11:40] <apw> didrocks, hmm i updated only 2 hours ago but it seems we have -0ubuntu3
[11:40] <didrocks> apw: let me check
[11:40] <didrocks> apw: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu4
[11:40]  * apw updates again
[11:41] <apw> Calculating upgrade... Done
[11:41] <apw> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:41] <apw> ii  compiz                                            1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu3                   OpenGL window and compositing manager
[11:42] <didrocks> hum, not published yet?
[11:43] <apw> didrocks, odd indeed, as it claims to have build about 2 hours ago, and shows as released at least 1 hour ago ... and we publish every 30m now ... so it should be i'd guess
[11:43] <didrocks> apw: right, that's why I was surprised when you pinged me, for me, it was already available
[11:44] <didrocks> apw: vila is confirming he didn't get it as well
[11:44] <didrocks> are the publishers stalled?
[11:45] <apw> Superseded 34 minutes ago by compiz - 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu4
[11:45] <apw> so we are probabally in the window
[11:45] <didrocks> yeah, you're right
[11:45] <didrocks> apw: I have rollback a patch, RAOF confirmed it fixed it for him as well
[11:46] <apw> didrocks, will retest once i manage to get the update
[11:46] <apw> didrocks, thanks for the info
[11:46] <didrocks> apw: yw, sorry for this, I really didn't spot it (don't use super + number) testing compiz for almost a full day :/
[11:47] <didrocks> apw: keep me posted
[11:47] <apw> didrocks, it also makes Super+<scroll wheel> go wrong too
[11:47] <greyback> om26er: correct, they're on our list of UI things to fix.
[11:48] <didrocks> apw: I confirm it works with the update here (same, I never zoom, my poor nvidia didn't really support it :/)
[11:49] <apw> didrocks, heh they need to go on the list of things to test, indeed they should be on the automated tests really
[11:49] <didrocks> apw: totally agreed, I requested that upstream for their autopilot patch
[11:49] <apw> didrocks, also ... the whole upside of unity (i am told) is these Super+foo shortcuts and how they make life soooo much better; so we'd better be testing them
[11:50]  * apw goes to pokeing the archive ... oi you where is my update
[11:50] <gotwig> hey
[11:50] <apw> didrocks, anyhow, thanks for the prompt fix
[11:50] <gotwig> may help me with my scope :X?
[11:50] <didrocks> apw: yw ;)
[12:34] <smb> didrocks, Just to let you know, the ubuntu4 compiz seems indeed solve the sticky s-key issue. The ghost-menus are still there, not sure this is expected.
[12:36] <didrocks> smb: there were some ghost menus for some people before, the patch was supposed to fix it, but made it worse in some configuration, I reverted the patch (and people were it regressed confirmed it's better)
[12:36] <smb> didrocks, Ah, ok. Yes, indeed its less of a problem to wiggle the mouse to have the menu than getting the s-key unstuck
[12:38] <didrocks> :)
[12:39] <smb> didrocks, btw, not sure this is something else you already are aware of and it is a bit buried as a side note in the bug about ghost-menus I filed: some apps seem to have a different color in sub-menues
[12:40] <didrocks> smb: yeah, I noticed that too, not sure if it's in Cimi's hand or sam's
[12:40] <Cimi> didrocks, unity or gtk bug, bit I have a workaround
[12:40] <smb> Ok, so at least it is known
[12:45] <smb> fwiw, firefox seems unaffected
[12:48] <AlanBell> so what is unity 5.6 and do we get it in Precise?
[12:48] <AlanBell> bit concerned about bug 923274
[12:49] <AlanBell> that has been retargetted for 5.6 and I don't really want screenshots to be broken in the LTS forever
[12:51] <apw> didrocks, ok, the update to -0ubuntu4 sorted out the Super+N key, but the bad menus are now pretty common
[12:52] <didrocks> apw: I don't get "bad menus" at all anymore though since -0ubuntu3 (the cherry-picked commit upstream)
[12:53] <didrocks> AlanBell: 5.6 is next week
[12:54] <AlanBell> ok, thats fine then :) I thought with 5.4.0 being before feature freeze there might not be updates
[12:57]  * smb wonders whether pressing prt-scr is still supposed to open a window telling about the screenshot or just dumping them into pictures...
[12:58] <seb128> smb, dumping them in the images directory
[12:59] <seb128> there is a bug discussing it
[12:59] <seb128> but it's a GNOME design decision at the base, making keybindings work like they do on phones etc
[12:59] <smb> seb128, Right it does that.
[13:00]  * smb is not sure he likes all those design things
[13:03] <seb128> nobody likes changes
[13:04] <seb128> we can't stay put for ever though
[13:04] <seb128> if you want to stay put nobody force you to update, you can keep using warty ;-)
[13:06] <smb> seb128, Just questioning the sense of making noise and flashing and then dumping stuff somewhere for me to find out. Guess I can be glad that it still makes some sound and is flashing. :-P
[13:10] <seb128> smb, well you use non interactive mode
[13:10] <seb128> smb, run gnome-screenshot and use the ui if you want an ui
[13:10] <seb128> smb, but that's going to be adjusted before precise
[13:10] <seb128> it's just middle on an unstable cycle, you have to deal with some experiments
[13:11] <smb> seb128, which of course I know from looking into my crystal ball ;)
[13:11] <seb128> smb, stop complaining, you use an unstable distro, deal with it
[13:11] <seb128> smb, or stay on a stable version
[13:12] <smb> seb128, Same way you have to deal with user getting surprised users. face it!
[13:12] <seb128> sorry but it has been a long week and it's tiring to have people complain about every little details going wrong mid unstable cycle
[13:12] <seb128> smb, ...
[13:12] <seb128> smb, very constructive thanks
[13:12] <mhall119> is there anyway, in python, to detect whether a Lens is running in Unity 4 or 5?
[13:13] <smb> seb128, Its ok, I can imagine there has been a lot coming up
[13:13] <Daekdroom> Despite preferring the screenshot UI showing up, it's a bit less practical.
[13:13] <seb128> smb, I've nothing against users being surprised and I think I've taken time to tell you what the change is and that's it's worked
[13:13] <seb128> smb, now whining and complaining is not useful
[13:13] <seb128> smb, it's known and will be worked, if you can't deal with small issues don't run an unstable distro ;-)
[13:14] <cking> hrm. if I don't have a Pictures directory print screen breaks
[13:14] <smb> seb128, You realize that I am "forced" to use it because otherwise we don't find the bugs before release, do you?
[13:14] <seb128> cking, open a bug on launchpad using ubuntu-bug gnome-screenshot
[13:14] <cking> will do
[13:14] <seb128> thanks
[13:15] <seb128> smb, if that reassure you some 10 users find and reported that bug before you ;-)
[13:15] <seb128> find->found
[13:15] <apw> seb128, given using a stable version was described as 'carear limiting' i don't think he can do that
[13:16] <seb128> apw, well, understanding that we have to deal with some ditches and that they are some known issues is also welcome
[13:16] <Daekdroom> seb128, will there be any way to tell the user where the screenshot was saved?
[13:16] <seb128> apw, there is a difference between giving feedback and complaining
[13:16] <seb128> Daekdroom, yes
[13:16] <seb128> Daekdroom, for the third time it's known and will be fixed
[13:16] <seb128> we just had to get features first
[13:16] <Daekdroom> Ok.
[13:16] <seb128> we can't fix all bugs before feature freeze
[13:25] <cking> filed bug 934187
[13:26] <seb128> cking, thanks
[13:27] <seb128> cking, do you have an Images directory?
[13:27] <seb128> cking, it stores them here for me
[13:27] <cking> nope
[13:27] <seb128> cking, what is .config/user-dirs.conf have as image dir?
[13:27] <seb128> ups
[13:27] <seb128> use-dirs.dirs
[13:28] <seb128> XDG_PICTURES_DIR
[13:29] <cking> ..my other issue why can't I save them where I want to - rather in some directory that I don't have? Where has my choice been removed?
[13:29] <seb128> cking, you can run gnome-screenshot from the dash if you want the ui and selection
[13:29] <seb128> cking, the rational from GNOME is that keybindings are non interactives, they just do the job
[13:30] <seb128> cking, they added keybindings also to directly copy the image to clipboard
[13:30] <seb128> cking, the idea is that you can i.e use the keybinding and ctrl-v to libreoffice
[13:30] <seb128> no need to have a dialog, put a filename, save the file etc
[13:30] <seb128> cking, it's an easier workflow for just dumping a screenshot or making a copy, it's also what i.e tablet devices do
[13:32] <cking> XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures" - so I see, I grep this file, see where the screen shot is put and hunt for it there. easy!
[13:33] <seb128> cking, no, you click on the big ubuntu logo in the first place of your launcher
[13:33] <seb128> cking, it has a "recent files" and your screenshot should be there
[13:33] <seb128> cking, you hit super key (win key) on your keyboard and it's there
[13:33] <davmor2> cking: or just type screenshot in the files lens
[13:33] <seb128> cking, you shouldn't have to bother with directories or paths in ubuntu
[13:33] <seb128> cking, the dash should just list things for you
[13:34] <seb128> cking, is that not working?
[13:34] <cking> why would I type "screenshot" when I can just hit print screen? OK - I'm stuck in an old metaphore
[13:34] <seb128> cking, the print screen key never opened files for you
[13:34] <seb128> cking, it's actually easier nowadays, rather than picking a directory and file you press the key, open the dash and select the first file in "recent files"
[13:35] <cking> I'm sure old print screen allowed me to specify where I dumped the file, but I see, the new metaphor is a bit of a change
[13:35] <seb128> cking, it's less actions and easier, you don't have to use a file manager or know about directories
[13:35] <seb128> cking, right, it's good for you who know what a directory is and about filesystem details
[13:35] <seb128> cking, most users don't want to have to handle directories
[13:36] <seb128> the new way is easier
[13:36] <seb128> you are just used to the hard technical way and don't think about easier ways ;-)
[13:36]  * cking brain coredumps
[13:37] <davmor2> cking: if you open gnome screenshot app,  you can specify a different directory in there and that then becomes the default directory if you want to change it, prtscn will then send them there
[13:38]  * cking wonders how many users need educating on this
[13:38] <seb128> cking, well, we can stick to "use ls and command line because that's what 15 years linux user know"
[13:39] <seb128> can't
[13:39] <seb128> it's not that hard to click on the ubuntu logo and look at files there
[13:39] <seb128> it's a like a few minutes wondering around to learn that files are there, and once you know it it's good
[13:41] <cking> my dash board did not have the "recent files" in it, so I was a bit stuck
[13:42] <seb128> hum, that seems like a but
[13:42] <seb128> bug
[13:42] <Daekdroom> Or a privacy setting.
[13:43] <apw> seb128, how about this for discoverability ... when yo utake the picture we get the 'Dash' button to wobble
[13:43] <cking> or just plain undiscoverable
[13:43]  * cking falls back to ls
[13:43] <cjohnston> om26er: yes, but 933464 is completely reproducable.. I have commented on the bug again
[13:43] <cjohnston> bug 933464
[13:44] <seb128> cking, apw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/927952 the concensus seems to be we will bring back the dialog
[13:45] <seb128> cking, apw: well anyway I don't disagree with the fact it's confusing, but 1- you guys need to be able with some level of changes, the new ui is not that hard, like the dash is not that hard to find 2- we need to be able to experiment a bit during unstable cycle, feedback is good, ranting about how broken changes are is not useful
[13:45] <cking> sure, I won't ever rant, just ask nicely directed questions ;-)
[13:46]  * apw is offended that you think he is ranting
[13:46] <gotwig> hey there
[13:46] <gotwig> has anyone expierience with scopes ?
[13:47] <seb128> apw, well it started with "* smb is not sure he likes all those design things"
[13:47] <seb128> apw, it was not especially addressed at you
[13:47] <seb128> but stating issues you have is fine
[13:47] <seb128> having a go at "design things" is not very constructive
[13:49] <om26er> cjohnston, I am trying to reproduce it here. is that a laptop or pc?
[13:49] <om26er> the point is I think its more easily reproducing when you are using a mouse
[13:49] <cjohnston> pc
[13:50] <gotwig> my branch is lp:lens-cooking, pls help me to fix the problem with the scope
[13:50] <cjohnston> om26er: i could upload a new video to show that its still reproducable if needed
[13:51] <smb> seb128, It is also not very constructive to be told that this is designed to be working differently now without a clear way to figure out that it is intended and an easy way to find out what the easy way is supposed to be. But ok, lets say it was said somewhat ambiguously
[13:52] <om26er> cjohnston, i just plugged the external monitor, on my first attempt I saw the issue but after that I have not been able to.. would be great if you attach the video
[13:52] <cjohnston> om26er: there is already one video attached.. do you want a second video?
[13:53] <seb128> smb, you are ranting at the wrong place, that change came from upstream not ubuntu, we just packaged an update and we deal with the issue it created now
[13:53] <om26er> 933464
[13:53] <om26er> (wrong keyboard sorry)
[13:53]  * smb slowly feels very annoyed of being called ranting all along
[13:53] <seb128> smb, note for the record that many devices out there than normal user have behave this way and they manage to use them, so it must be doable somehow ;-)
[13:54] <seb128> smb, people there just have knee jerk reactions to every change
[13:54] <cjohnston> om26er: i have a call in 5 minutes
[13:55] <om26er> cjohnston, its alright, i had in mind I saw screenshot on the bug
[13:55] <om26er> but its a video already :)
[13:55] <cjohnston> :-)
[13:55] <cjohnston> i figured that was the easiest way to describe that particular bug
[14:28] <gotwig> NameError: global name 'item' is not defined
[14:29] <gotwig> does that mean the library is not loaden?
[14:29] <mhall119> gotwig: where?
[14:29] <mhall119> gotwig: usually that means you're referencing a variable you haven't defined yet
[14:30] <gotwig> mhall119: the lens is now workin
[14:30] <gotwig> mhall119: but the scope not^^
[14:30] <mhall119> well that's progress
[14:30] <gotwig> mhall119: checkout lp:lens-cooking
[14:31] <gotwig> mhall119: hm, why does that happen :/?
[14:31] <gotwig> mhall119: I just took this property method from lxml
[14:33] <mhall119> gotwig: line 72 of the scope file
[14:33] <mhall119> you are using 'item', but your loop is using 'i'
[14:35] <gotwig> back, sry ubuntu just was a bit broken
[14:38] <gotwig> mhall119: wanna take a look at my code?
[14:38] <mhall119> gotwig: line 72 of the scope file
[14:38] <mhall119> did you see my comment about that?
[14:39] <cjohnston> om26er: do you need anything else from me for my bug or is it good to go back to confirmed?
[14:39] <gotwig> mhall119: I dont thing so
[14:39] <mhall119> you are using 'item', but your loop is using 'i'
[14:39] <mhall119> that's probably the cause of your NameError
[14:40] <om26er> cjohnston, sorry, I got side tracked, I have seen it happen in the past as well, I am going to set it to confirm and raise the priority
[14:40] <gotwig> mhall119: why does it use item o.0?
[14:40] <om26er> cjohnston, and will keep it as a release target
[14:40] <mhall119> gotwig: you wrote the code
[14:40] <cjohnston> om26er: ty
[14:41] <gotwig> mhall119: I merged it with other code, what do you think can solve the problem?
[14:41] <gotwig> mhall119: just call it item :X?
[14:41] <mhall119> gotwig: change line 71 to be "for item in self.recipefy_search(search):"
[14:41] <cjohnston> it's not a huge problem as i know what it takes to do it and not to do it, so im not horribly worried about it om26er, just one of those things that would make Ubuntu better for the masses if we didnt have the issue
[14:42] <gotwig> mhall119: do you use gedit ?
[14:42] <mhall119> not anymore, I switched to geany
[14:42] <om26er> cjohnston, we really need to fix the mulimonitor glitches that are scattered all around unity ;)
[14:43] <mhall119> om26er: do you have a multi-monitor tag for those bugs?
[14:43] <cjohnston> hehe
[14:43] <om26er> mhall119, yes its multimonitor
[14:44] <gotwig> mhall119:   File "./unity-scope-recipify", line 69, in recipefy     for item in self.recipefy_search(search): TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
[14:45] <gotwig> I already had such a problem
[14:45] <mhall119> gotwig: sounds like recipefy_search isn't returning something you can loop through
[14:47] <mhall119> gotwig: return results[0], where are you getting the 'resuts' variable from?
[14:47] <gotwig> mhall119: I know that this also not works :X
[14:48] <gotwig> mhall119: I merged it from the wiki scope
[14:49] <gotwig> mhall119: I dont realy know how that search works
[14:50] <mhall119> I can't help you with the lxml and recipefy parts, you'll have to look through their documentation/source
[14:56] <jrzabott> Hello everybody...
[14:56] <jrzabott> maybe somebody can give me a hand (in a good way)...
[14:56] <jrzabott> Abou unity 5.4
[14:57] <jrzabott> I'd like to be helpfull... but these unity 5.4 is screwing my head off... Each upgrade he wants to remove unity, or unity 2d or something important... any help how can I 'handle' these conflicts?
[14:58] <jrzabott> First question... am I in the right place? LOL
[14:59] <tsdgeos> i think this is more a development channel than a support one
[14:59] <tsdgeos> but not sure
[14:59] <jrzabott> mt too tsdgeos
[15:00] <jrzabott> tsdgeos: :S
[15:01] <greyback> jrzabott: you doing dist-upgrade?
[15:02] <jrzabott> yes...
[15:03] <greyback> jrzabott: in which case I'm not sure. I'm scared to advise anything :)
[15:03] <jrzabott> i've used dist-upgrade 'til have the unity removed by a broken dependencie, some compiz-anything ot found... then edit my software sources, install unity 5.2 again, and running fine... no i'm trying to dist-upgrade with standard sources, and I still have a request to remove unity, or unity 2d...
[15:04] <jrzabott> apt-get -f install, and aptitude  -f install... requests to remove unity 2d. :-(
[15:05] <greyback> jrzabott: strange. Sometimes I let apt just do it, then immediately make it re-install unity-2d again. But I'm not a safe package updater usually
[15:05] <jrzabott> manually?
[15:05] <jrzabott> hehehe... thanks anyway...
[15:05] <jrzabott> :D
[15:05] <jrzabott> I'll try to do that...
[15:05] <jrzabott> Maybe it works.
[15:05] <greyback> well I let it remove what it wants, then I install again the bits it removed
[15:06] <greyback> totally my impatient not-bothering-to-understand approach ::)
[15:07] <jrzabott> LOL... i like that... but i'm affraid to get some weird for-me-unhandable when re-installing. hahaha
[15:08] <greyback> jrzabott: yep, so definitely don't follow my advice
[15:08] <greyback> :)
[15:08] <jrzabott> But this is exactly the reason i'll follow...
[15:09] <jrzabott> :D
[15:09] <mhall119> JohnLea: is it okay with you if I copy/paste parts of your design blog into unity.u.c/getinvolved/ ?
[15:09] <mhall119> with modification as needed
[15:09] <jrzabott> The best to learn somthing, is to screw it up and try to fix
[15:10] <jrzabott> thanks everyone...
[15:10] <jrzabott> greyback: thanx man... i'll screw up my Ubuntu...
[15:10] <jrzabott> LOL
[15:10] <jrzabott> See ya...
[15:23] <JohnLea> mhall119; yes no problem, go ahead. Thanks! ;-)
[15:23] <mhall119> thanks
[15:24] <greyback> JohnLea: quickest of questions! Width of flashing cursor in Dash search box is 1 pixel wide?
[15:26] <JohnLea> greyback; I think so
[15:26] <gotwig> HOOOORAY
[15:26] <gotwig> IT WORKS ^^
[15:27] <gotwig> you can search for cookies in unity!
[15:27] <greyback> JohnLea: great, thanking you
[15:28] <gotwig> greyback: do you like cooking :D ?
[15:31] <greyback> gotwig: congrats! I'm guessing you made a lens
[15:31] <gotwig> greyback: and a scope
[15:31] <gotwig> greyback: for searching for recips, right from unity
[15:31] <gotwig> greyback: awesome?^^
[15:31] <greyback> gotwig: impressive!
[15:31] <gotwig> greyback: with my own parser
[15:31] <gotwig> greyback: no API ,
[15:32] <gotwig> greyback: could be a good base for other scopes that dont have an API
[15:32] <gotwig> greyback: check it out @  lp:lens-cooking
[15:32] <greyback> gotwig:very much yes, well done. I'm now worried how the lens bar will behave if it gets over-full :)
[15:32] <mhall119> gotwig: that's awesome, can you post a screenshot somewhere?
[15:32] <davidcalle> gotwig, congrats ;)
[15:33] <tsdgeos> Saviq: in https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity-2d/abstract-modifier-handling/+merge/93215 the name class HotModifier seems a bit weird
[15:33] <gotwig> mhall119: it still has errors, tough
[15:33] <gotwig> mhall119: not realy errors, but you cant search for all strings
[15:33] <mhall119> gotwig: still, it's pretty cool
[15:33] <gotwig> mhall119: at least I can search for my german favourite recips ^^
[15:33] <Saviq> tsdgeos, what about m_superHotModifier?
[15:33] <mhall119> and if you've got a screenshot, I'd like to share it
[15:33] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i mean the class name itself, not the variable name
[15:33] <Saviq> tsdgeos, that's kind of on purpose ;)
[15:34] <Saviq> tsdgeos, how else would you call it?
[15:34] <gotwig> mhall119: what would you like to eat :D ?
[15:34] <gotwig> mhall119: for the screenshot ^^
[15:34]  * mhall119 will eat anything
[15:34] <gotwig> mhall119: I am very happy becouse of that, you helped me a lot, you know
[15:34] <mhall119> gotwig: use your favorite
[15:34] <tsdgeos> Saviq: something like ModifierHotKey or ModifierHotKey[Watcher|Listener|Manager] ?
[15:35] <mhall119> gotwig: happy to help :)
[15:35] <mhall119> that's what community does, davidcalle helped me, I help you, you help ...
[15:35] <mhall119> and we all win
[15:35] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it's not a Key per se, and we already have a HotKey
[15:35] <davidcalle> mhall119, +1
[15:36] <gotwig> davidcalle: also helped me
[15:36] <gotwig> thanks for that, too
[15:36] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yeah, against HoyKey, HotModifier kind of makes sense
[15:36] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, ignore me then :D
[15:36] <gotwig> mhall119: the bad thing is, I am unable to cook xD
[15:36] <gotwig> http://i.imgur.com/jfS59.png
[15:36] <Saviq> tsdgeos, oof :), I loved the name ;)
[15:36] <gotwig> check it out
[15:36] <gotwig> Muffins ^^
[15:37] <Saviq> gotwig, I want that!
[15:37] <gotwig> cooking the 1337 way :P^^?
[15:37] <gotwig> Saviq: lp:lens-cooking
[15:38] <gotwig> Saviq: you cant search for all recips, tough ^^
[15:38] <gotwig> its like an alpha version
[15:40] <gotwig> Saviq: want to try it out?
[15:40] <gotwig> mhall119: can my scope be part of the "100 scopes project" ?
[15:47] <gotwig> mhall119: but you see the problem ?^^
[15:48] <gotwig> mhall119: all have the same image
[15:49] <gotwig> how can I hide my ip in IRC?
[15:57] <mhall119> gotwig: just bzr push your code to the onehundredscopes project space, is all you need to do
[16:06] <Saviq> gotwig, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/846012/
[16:09] <gotwig> Saviq: working on it
[16:21] <gotwig> Saviq: you're right
[16:21] <apw> didrocks, i've had a couple of cases of the 'numbers' becoming wedged on on the launcher, i don't think there was any adverse effects other than uglyness
[16:23] <gotwig> Saviq: I'm pushing right now
[16:23] <gotwig> Saviq: and there are many bugs included
[16:23] <Saviq> included? ;)
[16:23] <gotwig> Saviq: :D
[16:23] <gotwig> Saviq: but you won't break anything
[16:23] <gotwig> I think
[16:23] <gotwig> ^^
[16:23] <gotwig> ok I pushed it
[16:24] <gotwig> now waiting for launchpad
[16:24] <gotwig> and also only one link works xD
[16:24] <gotwig> that means what ever you click, only the first one gets launched...
[16:24] <gotwig> have to work on that
[16:25] <gotwig> Saviq: should work now
[16:26] <gotwig> Saviq: oh no, launchpad is slow.. sr
[16:26] <gotwig> y
[16:26] <gotwig> Saviq: ready
[16:31] <Saviq> gotwig, yup, it's working :)
[16:31] <Saviq> I see muffins ;)
[16:31] <gotwig> Saviq: awesome, dude^^
[16:34] <gotwig> mhall119: are I am able to use icons in the results in lenses?
[16:35] <gotwig> mhall119: I mean for the comments section
[16:45] <Saviq> gotwig, current renderers are only: image + text
[16:46] <gotwig> Saviq: ....
[16:46] <gotwig> Saviq: :(
[16:46] <gotwig> Saviq: but Unicode is allowed ?
[16:46] <Saviq> yes
[16:48] <gotwig> ❤
[16:48] <gotwig> ^^
[16:48] <gotwig> that saves space, you know :X ?
[16:48] <Saviq> :)
[16:52] <gotwig> Saviq: awesome, it looks realy good
[16:53] <gotwig> Saviq: which format is better?
[16:53] <gotwig> Saviq: 1❤ or ❤1
[16:56] <Saviq> gotwig, is that "how many people like this?
[16:56] <gotwig> Saviq: right
[16:56] <Saviq> "❤ 125" maybe
[16:57] <Saviq> you need the space /methinks
[16:57] <Saviq> "❤: 125" ?
[16:57] <Saviq> nah
[16:57] <Saviq> not sure, really
[16:57] <Daekdroom> '❤ 125' definitely
[17:01] <mhall119> davidcalle: ping
[17:01] <davidcalle> mhall119, hey
[17:01] <mhall119> ready for our call?
[17:01] <gotwig> ☭ lol
[17:04] <mhall119> davidcalle: ??
[17:05] <davidcalle> mhall119, sorry I'm not, I'm in a meeting.
[17:05] <mhall119> no problem, just let me know when you're free
[17:05] <davidcalle> ok :)
[17:18] <didrocks> apw: hum, interesting…
[17:18] <didrocks> apw: worthed a bug
[17:23] <apw> didrocks, i'll try and get a screen shot next time and file it
[17:23] <didrocks> apw: excellent, thanks :)
[17:39] <davidcalle> mhall119, I won't be able to do our call. I'm leaving work in ten min and I won't be available until tomorrow.
[17:39] <mhall119> davidcalle: ok, just a quick update then, we're on the TB's agenda for Monday to get the lens/scope dependency question answered
[17:40] <mhall119> davidcalle: I'm also finishing a Quickly template for Singlet's SingleScopeLens, which will hopefully be in 12.04's Universe
[17:40] <mhall119> and I'll be working on a template packaging branch for existing lenses and scopes to use
[17:40] <mhall119> unless you've already started on tht
[17:41] <davidcalle> mhall119, thank you for both! New devs are coming :)
[17:41] <davidcalle> tht?
[17:41] <mhall119> that
[17:41] <davidcalle> Oh, sorry, template packaging, I misread it.
[17:41] <mhall119> evidently I didn't hit the 'a' hard enough
[17:41] <mhall119> "packaging template" makes more sense
[17:41] <davidcalle> No time for it this week...
[17:42] <mhall119> ok, I'll put something up
[17:44] <davidcalle> mhall119, ok. I'll be in touch this week-end if I have time to do it.
[17:55] <mhall119> does Unity 2d have HUD?
[17:59] <didrocks> mhall119: not right now
[17:59] <didrocks> mhall119: next week probably
[18:10] <apw> didrocks, now i have the launcher on my left screen and the dash on my right
[18:10] <apw> didrocks, do we do any multi-monitor testing at all ?
[18:11] <didrocks> apw: I'm using 2 monitors
[18:11] <didrocks> apw: the the tests have some
[18:11] <didrocks> apw: you should have 2 launchers
[18:11] <didrocks> one per monitor
[18:11] <didrocks> the dash show where on the monitor where your cursor is
[18:12] <apw> didrocks, right and when you hit Super the launcher goes purple, and the dash slides out of it
[18:12] <didrocks> in autohide, yeah
[18:12] <apw> didrocks, except in this case the left monitor launcher went purple, but the shading for it, and the dash itself was on the right one
[18:13] <didrocks> apw: hum, DBO is your man then, I just tried on nvidia on don't reproduce
[18:13] <didrocks> and*
[18:13] <apw> didrocks, oh its not 'normal' it happened this time randomly
[18:14] <apw> but there are cirtinaly a pile of new bugs in this update
[18:14] <didrocks> apw: ah, you afraid me, so please file a bug and target it for 5.6
[18:14] <didrocks> apw: this will need automated tests for races
[18:14] <DBO> apw, I use multi-monitors all day, of course we test it
[18:14] <DBO> I even use "the evil setup" just to make sure that works (using the right hand monitor as the primary)
[18:14] <apw> DBO, what is different about you and me, as i see loads of bugs in this new version
[18:15] <apw> and its not like i am a power user unity wise
[18:16] <DBO> apw, whats going on dude?
[18:17] <DBO> apw, I cant really help you or fix the bugs if I dont know about them :/
[18:18] <apw> DBO, i just ended up with the left screen launcher sticking out and purple and the dash sticking out on the other screen
[18:18] <DBO> apw, are you running any PPA's?
[18:18] <apw> DBO, on i am filing bugs as fast as i can, this one has personal data all over it, so i am having to clean it up
[18:18] <apw> DBO, nope
[18:19] <DBO> apw, when you say the launcher went purple, what do you mean
[18:19] <DBO> like a solid purple rect?
[18:19] <apw> when you tap Super the launcher goes more purple and the dash emerges from its right edge, right ?
[18:20] <apw> so now imagine that where the launcher and the dash are on differnet screens not together
[18:20] <DBO> if you are using a purple background yes
[18:20] <apw> i change as little as possible so i am testing what our users get
[18:21] <DBO> did you move your mouse whilst opening the dash?
[18:21] <apw> DBO i can't swear i didn't, i didn't intentionally do so
[18:22] <apw> i should mention it wouldnt' go away either, and indeed thought it was closed
[18:22] <apw> i had to open and close it again to get it to work
[18:22] <DBO> didrocks, I thought the stuck super key thing was resolved in distro
[18:22] <DBO> the dash was stuck open?
[18:22] <apw> yes
[18:22] <didrocks> DBO: it is, in compiz
[18:23] <DBO> apw, click off currently only works on the monitor with the dash
[18:23] <DBO> is that possibly why you couldn't make it close?
[18:23] <apw> possible, my mouse was on the one with the dash, but if it thought it was with the launcher that was poking out, then perhaps
[18:25] <DBO> apw, there is a race that can potentially lead to this
[18:25] <DBO> its on our "to fix" plate
[18:25] <DBO> but if you have a reproducible test case
[18:25] <DBO> where you can trigger this every time
[18:25] <DBO> I will happily look into it
[18:26] <apw> DBO, first time i've seen it ... i'll worry about it then if it keeps happening
[18:26] <DBO> apw, for the record I have seen it once too
[18:26] <apw> DBO, i am also seeing the Super+<number> hint numbers getting stuck on the launcher
[18:27] <DBO> didrocks, ^^
[18:27] <DBO> that really sounds like the bug we talked about
[18:27] <DBO> are you *sure* that was never in distro?
[18:27] <didrocks> DBO: yeah, but it's reverted
[18:27] <didrocks> and confirmed by a lot of people
[18:27] <didrocks> DBO: this was in distro
[18:27] <DBO> so maybe apw is out of date?
[18:27] <didrocks> and rollbacked
[18:27] <didrocks> I think he's up to date
[18:27] <DBO> apw,  upgraaaaaade?
[18:27] <didrocks> we discussed it earlier
[18:27] <didrocks> and he didn't get it everytime now
[18:28] <DBO> does he get it anytime now?
[18:28] <apw> DBO i've upgraded to three different unities today, am on -0ubuntu4 right now
[18:28] <apw> so i assume i am up to date
[18:29] <didrocks> apw: you mean, 2 compiz (one from yesterday evening and one from this morning) and one unity
[18:29] <apw> i managed to get the split launcher and dash to reprodce 3 times now, it was when my mouse was moving
[18:29] <apw> didrocks, i mean that sort of thing yes
[18:29] <didrocks> let's be precise and not trolling
[18:29] <apw> though as unity is a plugin for compiz, i don't keep them separate in my head
[18:29] <DBO> at this point we tend to think of it the other way round... :P
[18:29] <apw> man forget it
[18:30] <DBO> apw, yeah the dash/launcher thing I can reproduce by moving the mouse
[18:30] <DBO> I know how to fix
[18:30] <DBO> if you can still reproduce that stuck super keys thats a much bigger issue to me
[18:30] <apw> we have had nothign but unity behoviour issues all day, we take the time to bother to report them, and you call it trolling
[18:31] <cking> I think apw gave up the will to live
[18:31] <DBO> awesome...
[18:31] <DBO> well thats so fucking helpful
[18:32] <cking> to be honest, he's been wrestling with it all day and was pulling his hair out
[18:32] <DBO> the super bug is super annoying
[18:32] <DBO> which is why I was asking him about it
[18:33] <mfisch> mhall119: feedparser was awesomely easy
[18:33] <mfisch> mhall119: thanks for the tip
[18:33] <cking> i think he was super tired out
[18:33] <DBO> but now I dont know if I need to go into super-mega-emergency mode about that bug or not
[18:35] <mhall119> mfisch: no problem, I love that library
[18:36] <mhall119> is ppa:unity-team/ppa stable enough for me to use it again?
[18:51] <gotwig> hey
[19:08] <cking> hiya, for some reason my desktop now only offers unity 2d and no longer has snazzy 3d. is there anything I need to check for?
[19:09] <mhall119> cking: are you still using the same video driver?
[19:09] <cking> yep, bog standard i915
[19:11] <cking> it's quite curious really, I'm not sure what makes unity decide whether to used 2d or 3d
[19:16] <cking> i've just pulled in some more updates, let me see if that fixed it
[19:28] <davmor2> guys http://ubuntuone.com/7LFbNGGiQD0taHsHv7TOPT what's with the very bright blue notifications?
[19:33] <spikeb> haha that looks like a bug to me
[19:56] <gotwig> I have to say
[19:56] <gotwig> my lens now works
[19:56] <gotwig> with different images for recipes
[19:56] <gotwig> and links
[19:56] <gotwig> cooking lens @ lp:cooking-lens
[19:56] <gotwig> sry, lp:lens-cooking
[20:01] <gotwig> mhall119: may you help ? how can I do filter the LANG variable, so it only outputs the first 2 chars? or better use the _ as seperator
[20:06] <mhall119> gotwig: os.environ['LANG'][:os.environ['LANG'].index('_')][:2]
[20:06] <mhall119> does that work?
[20:06] <mhall119> wait, I think I'm missing a bracket
[20:06] <gotwig> mhall119: right, sry you already said me that :X
[20:06] <mhall119> did I?  I couldn't remember who I did it for
[20:06] <Lockal> Hi. Is it possible to set progress of application in unity panel without .desktop file?
[20:07] <Lockal> I beleave there is a way, but I don't see it here http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/c/Unity-5.0.html#Unity.LauncherEntry
[20:08] <Lockal> *believe
[20:10] <mhall119> Lockal: why don't you have a .desktop file?
[20:11] <mhall119> Lockal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI may be helpful
[20:11] <mhall119> but it appears to use .desktop files too
[20:15] <Lockal> mhall119, my app is designed to be used from its own directory. I don't want to use /usr/bin directory and place .desktop files somewhere in /usr/share, because this requires root privileges.
[20:16] <Lockal> and .desktop files can't handle relative paths AFAIK
[20:16] <mfisch> Lockal: if you end writing a .desktop file, there's a file validator called desktop-file-validate that might be useful
[20:17] <mfisch> Lockal: you can put a desktop file inside ~/.local/share/applications too
[20:17] <mfisch> Lockal: and if you're so inclined you can modify unity's menu file to point to a completely different directory, although the last tmie I did that I had mixed results
[20:18] <mfisch> mhall119: I'm going to push that lens later today
[20:22] <mfisch> Lockal: there is a Hidden field in the desktop file, not sure if that will do what you want though  http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.0.html
[20:22] <gotwig> mhall119: do you know, how I can search for strings (here en) and replace it with an other?
[20:22] <gotwig> mhall119: in python
[20:24] <Lockal> mfisch, I wonder, why "Exec=./app" does not work with .desktop files...
[20:24] <kklimonda> Lockal: because they are not executed from the directory your application is in
[20:25] <kklimonda> (also designing the application to be ran from its own directory with UNIX in mind is just wrong
[20:26] <mfisch> mhall119: should I push my lens/scope to onehundredscopes?
[20:26] <mfisch> kklimonda: he could exec a script and have it cd I suppose
[20:26] <mfisch> kklimonda: not sure why though
[20:27] <kklimonda> well, he'd have to put the script in $PATH anyway
[20:28] <kklimonda> it is a solution - everything can be fixed, it's just doing stuff the wrong way :)
[20:28] <mfisch> kklimonda: agreed
[20:28] <kklimonda> (not that I haven't been asked to do just that - but I always try to explain downsides and show how I see things)
[20:29] <mfisch> kklimonda: are we going to start calling stuff un-unity-onic?
[20:29] <mfisch> Lockal: why does it need to be run from the current directory?
[20:31] <Lockal> mfisch, it is a good way to compile app for x86 and x86_64 and distribute them in 7z file. End user only need to extract the app somewhere and run it.
[20:35] <kklimonda> mfisch: it's just a matter of time until Canonical provides some Unity HIG
[20:36] <kklimonda> Lockal: preparing package (and a repository) is also a good way to distribute stuff like that
[20:36] <kklimonda> (but then I know how to do that so I'm probably biased)
[20:36] <kklimonda> although Firefox no longer reports what system version is it running on
[20:36] <mhall119> gotwig: mystring.replace("fromthis", "tothis")
[20:36] <kklimonda> so it became harder to do decently
[20:37] <mhall119> mfisch: if you don't have a specific LP project, yeah, onehundredscopes is a good place for it
[20:37] <gotwig> mhall119: I see
[20:46]  * mhall119 is gonna do a clean install on release day
[20:47]  * spikeb wonders why Unity doesn't have HIG
[20:48] <mhall119> spikeb: apps will mostly follow the Gnome HIG
[20:54] <mfisch> mhall119: I published my lens/scope: http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=89
[20:54] <mfisch> mhall119: you are liberally referenced in that blog entry ;)
[20:58] <mhall119> mfisch: nice!
[20:58]  * mhall119 adds another lens to his list
[20:58] <gotwig> mhall119: there is now a new version , with language support for all supported languages from recipefy.com ( es, it, soon de)
[20:59] <gotwig> mhall119: there is still a problem, it refreshes two times, that is not so nice for the user
[21:00] <mfisch> mhall119: should I create my own PPA or can I get into an existing one for lenses/scopes?
[21:00] <mhall119> gotwig: cool, I'll take a look in a minute
[21:00] <gotwig> mfisch: do you like packaging :D ?^^
[21:00] <mhall119> mfisch: ask davidcalle to add you to scopes-packagers and you can use that one
[21:01] <gotwig> mhall119: would be good if someone could package my scope/lens :X
[21:01] <gotwig> mhall119: I packaged thing , long time ago :X and it was hard
[21:01] <gotwig> 'things'
[21:02] <mhall119> gotwig: I'm working on reusable packaging files, ping me next week about them
[21:02] <gotwig> mhall119: that sounds late , ok
[21:02] <mfisch> gotwig: packaging is not really that hard
[21:02] <gotwig> can I use launchpad recipe?
[21:03] <mhall119> once you have the packaging files made you can
[21:04] <mhall119> gotwig: do you have a screenshot of your lens yet?
[21:05] <gotwig> mhall119: I already had one, but yes I can make a new one :X
[21:05] <gotwig> mhall119: what you wanna eat ?^^
[21:05] <gotwig> mhall119: beeeef :D?
[21:06] <gotwig> an icon for my lens would be, delicious...
[21:06] <mhall119> gotwig: it is getting on to dinner time, and I haven't decided what to make yet
[21:06] <JackyAlcine> mhall119: pot roast?
[21:06] <gotwig> cake?
[21:06] <gotwig> mhall119: for the screen^^
[21:06] <mhall119> JackyAlcine: in less than 2 hours? not possible
[21:06] <JackyAlcine> or maybe some lasagna?
[21:07] <JackyAlcine> Hmm, I only said it because I had some leftover in the fridge, lol.
[21:08] <mhall119> gotwig: how about a dinner plate?
[21:08] <gotwig> mhall119: nooo! burgers :X
[21:09] <gotwig> mhall119: I dont have much time for such XXX^^
[21:09] <gotwig> ***
[21:09] <gotwig> mhall119: http://i.imgur.com/TUKIY.jpg
[21:09] <gotwig> mhall119: you see the different images?
[21:10] <Debolaz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/930515 <- Is there anybody I should prod about this?
[21:10] <mhall119> gotwig: looks awesome (and tasty)
[21:10] <gotwig> mhall119: at the rop right corner you see what happens when a name is too long
[21:10] <gotwig> mhall119: I chosed icons you see
[21:10] <gotwig> mhall119: so it looks nicer
[21:12] <gotwig> mhall119: and you see what happens if recipes dont have all data that I need
[21:12] <gotwig> mhall119: the formating goes wrong
[21:12] <mhall119> gotwig: it's still looking really nice
[21:13] <gotwig> mhall119: do you think people will use itß
[21:13] <gotwig> mhall119: maybe it gets into 12.04, lol xD?
[21:13] <gotwig> would be cool...
[21:13] <gotwig> mhall119: I have to add ubuntinis to the recipes list ;)
[21:34] <mhall119> gotwig: http://ubuntuone.com/39qJekc7qJazKWUkE0segB what do you think?
[21:35] <gotwig> mhall119: woho! not bad
[21:36] <gotwig> mhall119: now only in monochrome, or sth. like that
[21:36] <gotwig> mhall119: do you think it will look good, with just one
[21:36] <gotwig> color
[21:37] <mhall119> gotwig: http://ubuntuone.com/3zOjfZSenIiJ4e6kVmMM6H is the original SVG
[21:37] <mhall119> gotwig: http://ubuntuone.com/2IfHzpBYM4bUThTGDShPrR is the monochrome version in svg, suitable for use as your lens icon
[21:38] <gotwig> mhall119: not bad
[21:38] <gotwig> mhall119: but I think its not realy that good, sry. But I will take it for now. Thank You
[21:39]  * mhall119 never claimed to be an artist
[21:39] <mhall119> but it'll get you started anyway
[21:40]  * gotwig is a photoshop noob
[21:40] <gotwig> I hate photoshop
[21:40] <gotwig> mhall119: you know, I am a student, and I am going to do later my bachelor in computer science
[21:40] <gotwig> mhall119: in the first semester we have photoshop, and only in the first, damn
[21:41] <mhall119> popey: ^^ gotwig made the recipe lens
[21:41] <gotwig> and mhall119 the icon ^^
[21:41] <gotwig> will be in bzr in 5 mins
[21:42] <popey> excellent excellent stuff
[21:42] <gotwig> popey: realy :X ? Its not finished
[21:42] <gotwig> popey: thank you
[21:43] <gotwig> and my parents still dont understand, why I am so often in front of the PC, and call me a 'gamer' lolz
[21:43] <mhall119> lol
[21:43] <mhall119> python is my game of choice
[21:43] <gotwig> they think programming is no work
[21:43] <mhall119> I'm on level 11
[21:43] <gotwig> mhall119: :D
[21:43] <gotwig> mhall119: in which levels come parsers :D ?
[21:44] <mhall119> in python, never
[21:44] <mhall119> I love the easter eggs
[21:44] <gotwig> mhall119: oh, must be the extension pack
[21:44] <gotwig> you know I did the lens
[21:44] <gotwig> becouse my mother had no easy way to search for recipes
[21:44] <gotwig> lol
[21:45] <gotwig> and now she has
[21:45] <mhall119> gotwig: I can see a lot of people wanting that lens
[21:45] <gotwig> "just  press the windows button and there you go"
[21:46] <mhall119> brb,  gonna reboot into the unity-team ppa
[21:46] <mhall119> if I don't come back, somebody broke Unity
[21:47] <gotwig> mhall119: :/
[21:47] <gotwig> mhall119: and everyday its another
[22:13] <mhall119> woohoo, PPA-power!
[22:14] <nhaines> yay?
[22:16] <mhall119> so far so good
[22:24] <ejat> mhall119: mean u r in the unity 5.4 ? :)
[22:54] <gotwig> hey
[22:54] <bschaefer_> jaytaoko, ping
[22:54] <gotwig> mhall119: ehm, may you tell me, how can I change the scope icon
[22:55] <mhall119> gotwig: scopes don't have icons
[22:55] <gotwig> mhall119: ok, categories?
[22:55] <gotwig> mhall119: I see icons, example for news, video, etc. from the scopes (?)
[22:56] <mhall119> those are categories
[22:56] <gotwig> mhall119: like I said :-)
[22:56] <gotwig> mhall119: so do you know, how I can change the categorie icons :-)?
[22:57] <gotwig> 'category'
[22:57] <mhall119> when you define the category, one of the parameters is the icon
[22:57] <gotwig> mhall119: ok, got it
[22:58] <mhall119> sorry, I'm typing on my phone, I'm away from my computer
[23:36] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: ping
[23:39] <gotwig> mhall119: are you a blogger?
[23:49] <gotwig> mhr3: new version with icon
[23:53] <bschaefer_> jaytaoko, hey, sorry at my college right now, about to head home
[23:53] <bschaefer_> jaytaoko, but I am having problems getting textentry to update the cursor location correctly!!
[23:53] <gotwig> gn8
[23:54] <bschaefer_> jaytaoko, ill be home in about 10-15 min, if you have sometime to talk!
[23:55] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: I will be around, if not, later this evening for me.