[00:00] <brimlar> imanc: "uname -r" gives kernel version, "lsb_release -a" gives Ubuntu release info
[00:00] <bastidrazor> imanc: lsb_release -a
[00:00] <JessD> muelli : If the latter, that's not a concern given the nature of the box.  It's purpose is to allow a group of trusted users to easily share files over samba
[00:00] <imanc> fantastic… thanks chasp
[00:00] <imanc> chaps
[00:00] <muelli> well JessD. I still don't think I've fully understood your requirements. But from what you've answered: "/dev/sdb to carry, say, 0777 once you plug a pendrive in" - "exactly" then any (!) user could write to the block device. That means brickage.
[00:00] <bastidrazor> mun: you may need a reboot?
[00:00] <dejahthoris> harry7; I'd like to help you further, but I've never personally needed to blacklist the pata driver
[00:00] <JessD> muelli : If I were worried about malicious users, I a) wouldn't use samba and b) wouldn't be using this method for perms
[00:01] <muelli> oh, and I mean the block device not the mounted filesystem.
[00:01] <JessD> muelli : alrighty then.
[00:01] <harry7> dejahthori : its ok. tell me what to do an i will try. if i mes thing up i can always reinstall
[00:01] <mun> bastidrazor, ok i'll try rebooting
[00:02] <harry7> dejahthori: i am looking this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=27756
[00:02] <mun> i have another problem: i'm trying to setup a cronjob that calls a sudo command, but i keep getting an error from the cronjob. the cronjob is in the user table; is that ok?
[00:02] <harry7> is it the same prob?
[00:04] <karsten> mun: Generally, you'd set up a cronjob to run as root, then, if you want to invoke a specific user, use 'su' to do that, in one of the system crontab files:  /etc/crontab, /etc/cron.d/<filename>, or /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly}
[00:04] <karsten> mun: the /etc/crontab syntax also supports naming the user to run as.  man 5 crontab.
[00:05] <ubuntu_noob_dont> trying to confirm that if you are running xubuntu directly from the CD and not installed on the HD that you are unable to add a wireless connection.  Any help appreciated.
[00:05] <dejahthoris> harry7; if you already have it installed, you might be able to create a "pata.conf" file in /etc/modprobe.d
[00:06] <karsten> mun: fields are (see "SYSTEM CRON FILE): m h dom mon dow user command.
[00:06] <harry7> dejahthoris: how can i do that?
[00:07] <mun> karsten, so do you mean i should try setting it in root's crontab (sudo crontab -e)?
[00:07] <karsten> mun: No.
[00:07] <dejahthoris> harry7; have you completed the install yet, or it the installer hanging?
[00:07] <karsten> mun: My recommendation would be to use an /etc/cron.d/ file.
[00:07] <xubuntu6> check the crontab
[00:07] <karsten> mun: You could also put it in /etc/crontab, but managing that gets ugly if you're adding a lot of cron jobs.
[00:07] <mun> karsten, well i only got 1 cronjob here
[00:07] <harry7> dejahthoris: i have completed installation of ubuntu 11.10
[00:07] <_Ethan_> what is better for a pictures "falling effec" adobe premiere or adobe after effects? any suggestion ?¿
[00:08] <harry7> dejahthoris: where is the blacklist file located
[00:08] <karsten> mun: I expect this is a system, not a regular, user that you're trying to run this as.  Maintaining indivdual crontabs for systems users is a pretty bad idea -- hard to manage.
[00:08] <karsten> mun: Good practices start early.
[00:08] <karsten> mun: I've only been doing this for, oh, 25 years or so.
[00:08] <dejahthoris> harry7; in /etc/modprobe.d/
[00:08] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok
[00:08] <_Ethan_> what is better for a pictures "falling effec" adobe premiere or adobe after effects? any suggestion ?¿
[00:09] <karsten> mun: ... but what do I know.
[00:09] <cfhowlett> !OT|_Ethan_
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> I LOVE 12.04!
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> THANKS
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> BYE
[00:09] <dejahthoris> harry7; beyond this, I have no experience with your exact problem, so I shouldn't try to give advice
[00:10] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok thank you for all :)
[00:10] <dejahthoris> harry7l you're welcome
[00:11] <seangibbz> hello
[00:11] <Gskellig> is there a good program similar to CPU-z for windows where I can see lots of info about cpu and ram for ubuntu/linux?
[00:11] <Gskellig> gui preferred but not necessary
[00:11] <cfhowlett> seangibbz   greetings
[00:11] <cfhowlett> Gskellig   see screenlets
[00:11] <seangibbz> how are you guys?
[00:11] <dejahthoris> Gskellig; "top" doesn't tell you enough?
[00:11] <mun> karsten, ok. i've tried creating a file in /etc/cron.d but i'm getting the same error: exit with status 2
[00:12] <mun> karsten, also i have root as the user
[00:12] <Gskellig> no it doesn't =(
[00:12] <karsten> mun: sudo -e /etc/cron.d/<somefile>
[00:12] <mun> karsten, i had the same problem with this cronjob before upgrading to 11.10. the fix was to add xhost local:root but now it doesn't seem to help.
[00:12] <karsten> mun: ... will invoke an editor and allow you to edit that file.  You need to be in sudoers, which if you installed ubuntu you should be.
[00:13] <karsten> mun: If you're not, hack root (boot single user) and add yourself to sudoers.
[00:13] <karsten> mun: ... or talk to whomever owns the box and have them grant you sudo privs.
[00:13] <psusi> Gskellig, try lshw
[00:14] <mun> karsten, yeah i managed to edit using sudo -e
[00:14] <karsten> There you go.
[00:14] <karsten> Test that the cronjob works as you want it to.  They're a bit tricky that way.
[00:14] <mun> karsten, just that the cronjob gives an error
[00:14] <mun> error (grandchild #3000 failed with exit status 2)
[00:14] <mun> this comes from syslog
[00:14] <Gskellig> lshw is pretty good
[00:14] <Gskellig> thanks
[00:15] <zacarias> is there an alternative to gnome-tweak-tool?
[00:15] <mun> if i set the user to my user, i get exit status 1
[00:15] <muelli> zacarias: dconf-editor ;-)
[00:15] <almoxarife> mun: using kde task scheduler?
[00:15] <escott> zacarias, gsettings cli
[00:15] <cfhowlett> zacarias   ubuntu tweak
[00:15] <mun> almoxarife, nope. i'm on gnome.
[00:15] <karsten> mun: paste the cronjob enry here.
[00:15] <almoxarife> mun: i get the same error with mentioned
[00:15] <karsten> entry.
[00:16] <mun> karsten, */1 * * * * root python ~/Misc/revoco-battery.py
[00:16] <escott> mun, you shouldn't use relative paths in crontab entries
[00:16] <karsten> mun: Use an absolute path for the command, not a tilde.
[00:16] <karsten>    So:  /home/<username>/Misc/revoco-battery.py
[00:17] <almoxarife> mun: and the crontab is created, just cant be excuted, google it, no help there
[00:17] <karsten> escott: technically, it's not a relative path, but it is a shell expansion.
[00:17] <mun> karsten, ok. let me wait for the next minute.
[00:17] <mun> almoxarife, yeah, i've tried googling. but last time i fixed it with xhost local:root
[00:18] <karsten> mun: If your python script uses #!/usr/bin/python notation, you can invoke it directly rather than calling it with python.
[00:18] <mun> escott, karsten, omg.. that fixed it.
[00:18] <karsten> mun: Welcome to crontab troubleshooting ;-)
[00:18] <mun> bloody hell..
[00:18] <zacarias> escott: that's what I will probably use, although is no that easy and I don't want to mess thinhs up
[00:18] <mun> thanks a lot guys
[00:18] <zacarias> muelli: is it cli or gui?
[00:19] <muelli> zacarias: GUI.
[00:19] <zacarias> cfhowlett: It crashes before it does anything (and gnome-tweak-tool doesn't even launch, it give sme an error message)
[00:19] <almoxarife> mun: from i see happening the crash is not cron related, i set up a job for every two mins, and it ran like it should, but crashing just like you see it, its not the cron portion, variables ?
[00:20] <zacarias> muelli: thanks, I'll try that
 why can't i view images i pull off my external hard drive?  the images put on there have no thumbnails, but they have the name of *.jpg and looking at properties it shows that the images of JPG type.  what happens when i try to view one of them is the "image viewer" program will open, but nothing is shown.  if i just copy the image from the external hard drive to my desktop then i can view the image with no problems.
[00:20] <thevaliantx>   what gives?
[00:20] <cfhowlett> zacarias   I'll take the -1 for teh ffilaed suggestion.  Sorry.
[00:20] <karsten> mun: NP.
[00:24] <zacarias> cfhowlett: ?
[00:25] <cfhowlett> zacarias   hmmm??
[00:26] <zacarias> cfhowlett: sorry, I didn't understand your last message (that's why I messaged a question mark)
[00:26] <cfhowlett> zacarias   see http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[00:26] <cfhowlett> zacarias   not 11.04 and older only
[00:26] <pilun> hola
[00:26] <cfhowlett> !es|pilun
[00:27] <zacarias> cfhowlett: it doesn't work on 11.10?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> zacarias   nope.  sorry.
[00:29] <harry7> :) ok back again. actually i managed to resolve my big problem. it turns out the pata-controller makes my kernel hangs up forever. put blacklist pata-amd on that balck list and now my OS boots normally. thank you man that i dont remmeber your nickname :)
[00:30] <dejahthoris> harry7; excellent news
[00:30] <harry7> let see if blacklisting pata-amd brakes anything else
[00:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: oh  didnt remember your name
[00:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: thank a lot
[00:31] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:32] <harry7> dejahthoris: i hope i will not brake anything
[00:32] <dejahthoris> harry7; it shouldn't
[00:32] <harry7> now that i blacklisted pata-amd what was that for
[00:32] <harry7> what is pata used for?
[00:33] <kraz3d> Is there a VNC server for ubuntu that would allow me to access my computer via a foreign web browser?
[00:33] <dejahthoris> harry7; that only disabled the legacy pata controller which didn't have any hdd on it anyways
[00:33] <harry7> dejahthoris: ah ok. than good to go :)
[00:33] <harry7> dejahthoris: thank you
[00:33] <dejahthoris> harry7; pata is the old ata controller, the one wuth 40 pins
[00:34] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:34] <harry7> now is there any good tutorial on how to install latest nvidia proprietary. the one that you download from nvidia website??
[00:35] <dejahthoris> harry7; no idea, I don't do nvidia video cards
[00:35] <harry7> ah ok. no prob
[00:35] <escott> !nvidia | harry7
[00:36] <escott> harry7, and don't download it directly use jockey-gtk
[00:36] <harry7> escott: i used that but the driver on the nvidia website its newer
[00:37] <escott> harry7, the supported method is jockey-gtk
[00:37] <harry7> escott: i have 280.13 and the driver i downloaded from them is 295.20
[00:38] <harry7> but its a .run
[00:38] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:38] <aethelrick> harry7, new is not always best... do you need the very latest driver for a reason or can you not use the latest stable supported one?
[00:38] <peter__> #list
[00:38] <escott> harry7, i don't care, use jockey-gtk. there are all kinds of issues with installing something outside of the repos and without a good reason you won't find much support on this channel
[00:39] <harry7> i gues i am gonna stay with what escott says
[00:39] <escott> diverdude, it is the default syslog application... so yes
[00:40] <aethelrick> harry7, in some cases, I've had the newer driver perform worse for an older card... best to stick with what is tested :)
[00:40] <diverdude> escott: so where is it set up that e.g. apache's log messages sent to rsyslog is stored in /var/log/apache2 ?
[00:41] <escott> diverdude, check /etc/rsyslog.d/
[00:43] <mattwhelan> Anyone here have an opinion on which would be a better desktop for Ubuntu: ~2005 Apple PowerPC G5 tower or a 4 year old cheapo Dell desktop tower?
[00:43] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; how cheapo?
[00:43] <aBound> I don't think a PowerPC arch is supported for Ubuntu anymore.
[00:43] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   powerpc is going to be more difficult...
[00:43] <escott> !ppc
[00:45] <mattwhelan> The Dell is an Inspiron, I don't know the exact specs offhand, but I think the specs are not as good as the Mac. Total average consumer Dell machine.
[00:45] <Gergov> guys i guess a lot of people like me asking but why and how to fix skype mic and camera? now my camera didnt work i found an article http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html and now for a brief moment works, but then skype crashes. and the mic people say they can hear something but the sound is terrible with a lot of noise and my words tear . i am using ubuntu 10.04 and its just a default installation
[00:45] <peter__> arg!
[00:45] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; Inspiron but which model number?
[00:46] <peter__> anyone particularly skilled in making a intel wireless card 5100 agn work?
[00:46] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   I just gave away my 2001 dell - still worked still ran ubuntu...
[00:46] <wingnut2626l> im trying to configure my computer to be an ftp server using wu-ftpd.  i run the command but it just brings me to another prompt.  what do i do?
[00:46] <diverdude> escott: hmm ok...didnt really find anything there...but seems that rsyslog config is fragmented into many files. I found /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d/20-ufw.conf and /etc/default/rsyslog. why so many, and are there more?
[00:46] <escott> Gergov, what is not working about the camera
[00:46] <mattwhelan> Would it be a total mess/ordeal to try and get Ubuntu (community port) working well on the G5? I can get my hands on a dual processer 2.5 w/ 6GB Ram, later model. Just don't want to be running into issues every week.
[00:47] <mattwhelan> Not sure of the Inspiron model. I know for a fact it runs Ubuntu fine, just wondering if the G5 would be a better option since the specs are much better, or if it's too much trouble.
[00:47] <OerHeks> mattwhelan, i think G5 lacks support on flash.. not sure it still is.
[00:47] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   you'd have to ask the ppc folk...
[00:47] <escott> diverdude, syslog interacts with multiple programs so its helpful to have a separate config file for each program it interacts with. this is a common approach in /etc
[00:47] <Gergov> escott, first when i click "turn on camera" nothing happened. like there is no camera. after the article. i did what its written there, and now i start the camera, people see me kind of blueish and after 1-2 min skype crashes and i have to start it again
[00:48] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; the question isn't how lame the Inspiron is now, but how much you might upgrade it cheaply using junk parts
[00:48] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   dejahthoris has a point.  That machine is ancient!
[00:49] <diverdude> escott: hmm but there are only those 4 files but way more programs interacts with rsyslog
[00:49] <escott> Gergov, if the camera works in other applications (like cheese) one thing you can try is to use some LD_PRELOAD tricks to force skype to use libv4l. start with installing libv4l-0:i386
[00:49] <escott> diverdude, some may not require any special configuration. you would have to read the config files. i don't know much about rsyslog
[00:51] <Gergov> escott, thats exactly what i am doing now. i am starting skype with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype . and this is where, when i start the camera, skype it crashes after 2 min
[00:51] <escott> Gergov, so you are running x86 then
[00:51] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons.  I know how to switch them to left panel, but if I switch to another theme and them back to US, buttons reset to right-panel.  How do I lock the buttons to left panel in gnome-conf?
[00:52] <Gergov> escott, sorry but i kinda dont know hihihi i think yes tho :) how can i check to be sure?
[00:52] <escott> Gergov, uname -a see if it says x86_64 anywhere.
[00:53] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons.  I know how to switch them to left panel, but if I switch to another theme and them back to US, buttons reset to right-panel.  How do I lock the buttons to left panel in *gconf-editor*
[00:53] <escott> Gergov, it should say i386/i686 for your preload to be correct
[00:53] <Gergov> i686 GNU/Linux
[00:53] <Gergov>  at the end
[00:54] <escott> Gergov, then its out of my depth. there are some environment variables LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS but i dont know what they do
[00:54] <Gergov> thanks for your help tho :)
[00:55] <Gergov> escott, any idea about the mic then ?
[00:55] <escott> Gergov, alsamixer. check the mic gain boost
[00:55] <vubuntor979> how to ren {01, 02, 03, 04}.mp3 to {abc01, abc02, abc03, abc04}.mp3
[00:55] <vubuntor979> thanks
[00:55] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons,  I know how to switch them to left-panel via gconf-editor - now how do I make that change stick?
[00:56] <Gergov> escott, mic boost 0<>0
[00:56] <escott> vubuntor979, rename is a perl application which can do this. or you can use a bash loop: for f in *.mp3; do echo $f abc$f; done (replace the echo with mv)
[00:57] <vubuntor979> other same as "mv ??.mp3 /abc/*"
[00:57] <vubuntor979> ??
[00:58] <cfhowlett> vubuntor979   see http://www.ossramblings.com/bulk_rename_mp3_files_in_linux
[01:00] <vubuntor979> thank s cfhowlett
[01:01] <cfhowlett> vubuntor979   have fun/be safe
[01:06] <vubuntor979> thanks cfhowlett
[01:07] <n0sq> i'm having trouble installing updates - 2 packages are unauthenticated so i deselected them but it still won't let me update the others
[01:09] <arun_india> ./intro
[01:10] <arun_india> msg
[01:10] <arun_india> MSG
[01:10] <n0sq> hmm, gpg key not found on keyserver
[01:11] <escott> !topic | arun_india
[01:11] <jlb181> n0sq I've found when I have trouble like that I can use the command line to do the upgrade.  sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <arun_india> k
[01:16] <socrates_johnson> hello, i can't convert ogv to avi/mp4 using ffmpeg, winff, or openshot in ubuntu...handbrake works fine and i can convert the file using ffmpeg in redhat or winff in windows (so i don't think it's the file)
[01:16] <jlb181> n0sq https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  about two thirds down the page it talks about authentication.
[01:17] <ki7rw> i'm not able to find this key: 0x40976EAF437D05B5
[01:17] <jlb181> I think that is the best I can do for you myself.
[01:17] <Ahoalton> I am trying to change the boot order in grub.  I currently have Ubuntu 11.10 and win 7 dual booted
[01:17] <escott> ki7rw, selfsig http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x40976EAF437D05B5
[01:18] <Ahoalton> can someone point me in the right direction please?
[01:18] <escott> Ahoalton, grub-set-default
[01:19] <Ahoalton> how do I access that escott?
[01:19] <jswagner> from a terminal
[01:19] <escott> Ahoalton, its a command line utility
[01:19] <Ahoalton> I want to make windows 7 my first boot, currently ubuntu is
[01:20] <sozomen> im about to format an external harddrive with disk utility -- if i do Master Boot Record (ive never seen this) will it likely work with an xbox 360?
[01:20] <Ahoalton> ok escott, are you can you help me when I boot into ubuntu in a few minutes?
[01:20] <escott> Ahoalton, yes
[01:20] <jswagner> Ahoalton: open a terminal and use grub-set-default.  check the help screen/man page for details.
[01:21] <escott> Ahoalton, make a note of what number windows is in the boot menu
[01:21] <ki7rw> escott: thanks
[01:21] <Ahoalton> thank you, ttyl
[01:21] <Ahoalton> thanks brb
[01:21] <escott> sozomen, you want to boot an alternate os on the xbox?
[01:22] <sozomen> no, just for movies and whatnot
[01:22] <sozomen> using the usb port
[01:23] <escott> sozomen, it would have to be ntfs, and you should generally be creating ntfs partitions from within windows. there may be additional restrictions on the xbox filesystem. im not sure if it standard ntfs or not
[01:25] <sozomen> tried to format in NTFS and got this "Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:25] <CXIV1> I want to install lubuntu on usb , does that reserved extra space refferers only to /home or just also to later installed packages?
[01:26] <escott> CXIV1, both
[01:26] <CXIV1> escott Thanks
[01:26] <dvhh> ntfs doesn't  work with the xbox
[01:26] <dvhh> only fat
[01:26] <wingnut2626l> once i set up my ftp server using vsftpd, how do i access the ftp from another computer
[01:28] <sozomen> dvhh thanks
[01:28] <Ahoalton> escott:  what was the command again?
[01:29] <escott> Ahoalton, what option number is the windows?
[01:29] <Ahoalton> 5 I believe
[01:29] <Ahoalton> its last
[01:29] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   reserved space is for files that are NOT part or the lubuntu filesystem
[01:29] <CXIV1> cfhowlett ..
[01:29] <socrates_johnson> sorry, does anyone have thoughts on setting up codecs so I convert ogv to avi using ffmpeg or openshot? thank you
[01:30] <cfhowlett> socrates_johnson   ubuntu-restricted-extras for the codecs...
[01:30] <CXIV1> cfhowlett So after installing some packages that packages will not be located there?
[01:30] <escott> Ahoalton, i think its zero indexed so try sudo set-grub-default 4. if that doesn't boot the correct entry try again with sudo set-grub-default 5
[01:31] <Ahoalton> so that will move windows to number one?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   installed packages go into the ubuntu filesystem as normal.  If you also wish to use the USB as a storage medium when it's NOT booting ubuntu, leave some extras space
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> hi friends, i have one usb drive with don't work on my ubntu laptop. on all other ubuntu computers in the company the stick works fine. Here is my dmesg and my lsusb
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845243/
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> du you have any ideas why?
[01:31] <escott> Ahoalton, it changes what the default option is. it doesn't reorder the entries in any way
[01:31] <Ahoalton> oh, ok, is it possible to reorder the entries?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   it's not ubuntu - it's that computer.  does it support USB boot?
[01:32] <CXIV1>  cfhowlett I got 8 gb usb drive , and I set 4 gb for that extra settings space.
[01:32] <escott> leo-unglaub, can you try a different port?
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: i am not talking abount booting from it. i just mean simply copying fiels on it
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> escott: i tryed all 4 ports
[01:32] <CXIV1> I think it should be enough
[01:32] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   sounds good...
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> and all other sticks work fine on my laptop
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> just not this one
[01:33] <socrates_johnson> cfhowlett: thank you, unfortunately i have those installed already
[01:33] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   does the one computer support USB read/write?  Some companies disable it...
[01:33] <cfhowlett> socrates_johnson   ah.  sorry, then.
[01:34] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: i am the tech admin in this company. i have all rights on all of the machines.
[01:34] <socrates_johnson> cfhowlett: no worries, thank you
[01:34] <themonitor> an anyone help  me understand this? I installed  the latest ubuntu and adobe flash was using my gpu  but in slack it doesn't. Is there a configuration  that I need to do or is it something like ubuntu  just having newer software?
[01:34] <Ahoalton> it says command not found escott
[01:35] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   that answers that.  IDK what's going on there.  Sorry.
[01:35] <themonitor> I know this isn't a specific issue. I'm just looking to be pointed in the rigt direction
[01:35] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: thanks anyway :)
[01:35] <themonitor> I want to understand better how linux in general interacts with the gpu
[01:35] <Ahoalton> escott:  is grub-set-default
[01:35] <Ahoalton> thanks just had to flip them
[01:35] <escott> Ahoalton, grub-set-default
[01:35] <Ahoalton> gonna try it
[01:36] <Ahoalton> brb to tell you
[01:38] <axisys> what's the best way to offline copy of a website?
[01:39] <dvhh> axisys: wget ?
[01:39] <themonitor> axisys: that was going to be my suggestion.
[01:39] <axisys> dvhh: i see wget -mk looks good
[01:39] <axisys> ok
[01:39] <axisys> themonitor, dvhh : thanks guys
[01:39] <themonitor> np :)
[01:40] <dvhh> themonitor: :p axisys: ;)
[01:40] <joseluis> ..
[01:41] <axisys> it will work with http://example.com/index.cgi ?
[01:42] <escott> axisys, it will be able to copy all the static content
[01:43] <axisys> ok
[01:44] <axisys> hwo about a message board site?
[01:44] <axisys> i see tons of index.cgi?files
[01:45] <escott> axisys, (a) you shouldn't do that without the permission or the website owner (b) if all you want is the static content yes
[01:46] <axisys> i was asked by the one of the member if they can offline copy the site
[01:46] <escott> axisys, doing it with wget would be the stupidest most inconsiderate way of doing so
[01:46] <escott> axisys, the proper way to do this is to copy the sql database (its probably mysql)
[01:47] <iguest> what is the channel name for ubuntu 12.04 alpha?
[01:47] <Ben64> #ubuntu+1
[01:47] <axisys> escott: hmm
[01:47] <EvilResistance> !12.04 | iguest
[01:47] <iguest> tnx
[01:50]  * ki7rw probably shouldn't upgrade packages without a good signature but i like to live dangerously
[01:55] <elektron_> can someone help me
[01:55] <elektron_> i'm doing a class project
[01:55] <elektron_> and I need to generate some "real" data
[01:55] <elektron_> anyways
[01:55] <elektron_> if you can fill this form out
[01:55] <elektron_> it'd be awesome
[01:55] <elektron_> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEQwZktDMFJGU3U0eG5lSklFQzBqMWc6MQ
[01:55] <FloodBot1> elektron_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <EvilResistance> elektron_:  this isnt the channel for such things.
[01:56] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | elektron_
[02:00] <gbuchdahl> I have a rather stupid question
[02:00] <gbuchdahl>  idownloaded ubuntu recently
[02:00] <gbuchdahl> and my bluetooth mouse has not connected
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> so I can't click install
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> so what do I do
[02:01] <steviesteveo> Do you have a usb mouse?
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> I do: do I have to use it forever?
[02:01] <StevenX> Hello everyone. Is there a "remote desktop software" for ubuntu like there is for Windows? I am currently using TeamViewer, but it is used through Wine and doesn't work too well.
[02:01] <Ben64> !vnc | StevenX
[02:02] <steviesteveo> No, just long enough to install ubuntu and get bluetooth set up
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> thanks
[02:02] <resno> i just downloaded ubuntu 11.10 live, and i need the login credentials to get on
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> um
[02:02] <StevenX> Ben64: Thanks!
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> can I plus one you?
[02:02] <StevenX> !FreeNX
[02:04] <meskarune> StevenX: there is a linux version of teamviewer, you don't have to run it through wine. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[02:04] <_Marcus> TeamViewer is okay, if you don't want to open anything on your firewall. It gets slow at times.
[02:08] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[02:08] <StevenX> meskarune, I *thought* I had downloaded that one, but it still ran through wine.
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> I just went on ebay and had only part of the site allowed in noscript, then I wanted to right click on a line of text that I marked and then the site went gray and a window appeared in the center saying "Text by Dirtyharry9999"
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> any idea what that is?
[02:09] <swang1> 以后有的罪受了。。
[02:09] <StevenX> meskarune, would that make any sense or do you think I downloaded the wrong one?
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> when I switched the site fully on in noscript, that disappeared
[02:09] <Ben64> StevenX: teamviewer is available in the software center, you shouldn't download it from the website anyway.
[02:10] <StevenX> _Marcus, but with TeamViewer I can use as a client a windows pc or an android phone, which is pretty nice.
[02:10] <Ben64> StevenX: there are vnc clients on windows and android as well
[02:10] <_Marcus> StevenX: True.
[02:10] <jon23d> I can't eject any of my cd drives, when I press the button, run eject, or even stick a pin in either one of them, it tries to eject but fails.
[02:11] <jon23d> Ubuntu seems to think they are SCSI, but I've got them connected with SATA cables
[02:11] <jon23d> And when I can get them to open, they read/write just fine...
[02:11] <_Marcus> StevenX: I like my data going from me to the target machine, not me to TeamViewer to target machine. It's faster, and more secure.
[02:11] <Ben64> jon23d: you have to unmount the disc before ejecting
[02:11] <jon23d> they aren't mounted
[02:11] <jon23d> ben64: they are both empty
[02:11] <Ben64> jon23d: then the drives could be messed up?
[02:12] <jon23d> ben64: it seems unlikely that two newish drives would both fail though, doesn't it?
[02:12] <Lunar_Lander> does anybody have an idea on my problem?
[02:12] <StevenX> Ben64: So if I install VNC server, then all I need to access it is a generic VNC client software? No need for it to be "compatible." For example, I can't access Teamviewer with anything but TeamViewer.
[02:12] <StevenX> _Marcus: Very true.
[02:13] <Ben64> jon23d: only if they're mounted would they not eject. and using a pin or paperclip to open it can't fail unless something is physically wrong with the drive
[02:13] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: I just joined. What is your problem?
[02:13] <_Marcus> StevenX: Of course, that's my opinion. You can use whatever software you like :)
[02:13] <Ben64> StevenX: correct. any vnc client will connect to any vnc server
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> I just went on ebay and had only part of the site allowed in noscript, then I wanted to right click on a line of text that I marked and then the site went gray and a window appeared in the center saying "Text by Dirtyharry9999"
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> when I did that again, it came on again only with a box to check that said "Prevent this site from showing further messages"
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> when I switched the site fully on in noscript, that disappeared
[02:13] <jon23d> ben64: could the fact that ubuntu reports a scsi connection with them have anything to do with it?  The behavior is identical for both drives, which makes me think the chances of it being a hardware failure is slim
[02:14] <StevenX> Ben64: Ah, gotcha. Thank you! I wasn't aware. I thought each VNC server software had its own proprietary client software. Now this opens up a whole new level.
[02:14] <StevenX> ;-)
[02:14] <escott> jon23d, ATAPI and SATA send SCSI commands over ATA so it can all get very confusing, but these days nothing is what used to be ATA
[02:14] <Ben64> jon23d: try ejecting them while in the bios or something
[02:14] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: I think that's off topic.
[02:14] <jon23d> ben64: I wonder if something has a lock on them, but I can't unlock them from the terminal either, hdparm -L 0 /dev/cdrom: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(doorlock) failed: Bad address
[02:15] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: Then noscript is interfering with something. Just add ebay to it's whitelist.
[02:15] <Lunar_Lander> OK, thanks
[02:15] <jon23d> ben64: kk, I'll give it a shot and report back :) thanks
[02:15] <Ben64> jon23d: its probably /dev/sr0 though
[02:15] <jon23d> ben64: same result
[02:16] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: No problem :)
[02:16] <Ben64> StevenX: yep, i have vino-server on my desktop, pocketcloud client on android, tightvnc client on another desktop, and everything works together fine
[02:16] <jonathon> Scanning (from HP 2100c) not working after hooking up a printer with a scanner, worked well before. Don't need the color printer as much as I need the scanner. How can I clear out system's information about other printer so original scanner works? Thank you:)
[02:17] <meskarune> StevenX: I see. I guess the linux version uses wine adn some windows libraries to work. I don't know of any simple multiplatform remote desktop applications thoguh :/
[02:17] <jonathon> Scanning (from HP 2100c) not working after hooking up a printer with a scanner, worked well before. Don't need the color printer as much as I need the scanner. How can I clear out system's information about other printer so original scanner works? Thank you:) Ubuntu 10.04
[02:17] <Ben64> !patience | jonathon
[02:18] <jonathon> Ben64 wanted to add version sorry
[02:19] <Canadian1296> jonathon: You could've added the version without repeating the whole question though…
[02:19] <walrus__> Can anyone help me out getting the win7 installer on a usb (Xubuntu 11.10)
[02:20] <Canadian1296> walrus__: You have Windows and desire Ubuntu, or have Ubuntu and desire Windows?
[02:21] <walrus__> I have Ubuntu, and desire windows
[02:21] <meskarune> he is trying to mount the windows installer on a usb from ubuntu
[02:21] <CIDR> Is it possible to install or created during an install a software Raid10 ?
[02:21] <Ben64> thats not really a ubuntu issue
[02:21] <Wargasm> geh... windows...
[02:21] <psusi> walrus__, then you should ask in #windows or something, though I don't think that's even possible
[02:21] <jon23d> ben64: they opened fine in the bios, but won't open again in ubuntu
[02:21] <Canadian1296> Wargasm: Agreed
[02:21] <walrus__> I've done it in windows, just figures I'd try her :P
[02:21] <meskarune> if he is trying to make a usb from ubuntu it is an ubuntu issue
[02:21] <walrus__> here*
[02:21] <Ben64> jon23d: open a terminal and try "eject"
[02:22] <jon23d> it doesn't do it
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: You want to put the Windows 7 installer on a USB from xubuntu?
[02:22] <Ben64> jon23d: open a terminal and try "sudo eject"
[02:22] <walrus__> Yes
[02:22] <psusi> CIDR, sure... you can create a software raid10 during install with the alternate installer, or do you have a fakeraid card?
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: doesn't work there either
[02:22] <Canadian1296> psusi: I think he wants to know how to make a bootable usb in ubuntu. The people in #windows wouldn't know anything about that
[02:22] <CIDR> psusi: I'd just prefer to use software raid10
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: If xubuntu is a supported distro here, I guess it is on topic
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: its almost like something has locked it up
[02:22] <walrus__> Woo!
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: Does Ubuntu support writing to NTFS?
[02:22] <meskarune> walrus__: check out the dd command. it might do what you want
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: but I can't find the process that would...
[02:22] <CIDR> psusi: I have a hardware card, but it's 8 ports, and if I use four for raid10, I can't use the other 4 for anything, nor will they show up as jbod
[02:23] <_Marcus> walrus__: Oh, I know. First, you need to format the drive as FAT32.
[02:23] <psusi> Canadian1296, making a bootable windows usb is a windows question... and I don't think windows supports that anyhow
[02:23] <_Marcus> walrus__: Then you can copy paste the files for Windows 7 installer onto the drive.
[02:23] <walrus__> I've tried the dd command, it goes through the process and then i try to boot from it and it just boots from my hdd
[02:23] <walrus__> And I tried copying and pasting the files
[02:23] <psusi> CIDR, what card is this?
[02:23] <Ben64> putting windows onto a flash drive is not a ubuntu support issue
[02:23] <walrus__> I think formatted as NTFS though
[02:23] <Ben64> take it to ##windows
[02:24] <meskarune> walrus__: oh then I think you might just need to do something in your bios to boot the usb you made with dd
[02:24] <Canadian1296> psusi: I know what you're saying… walrus__, go ask if a bootable Windows usb is possible in #windows
[02:24] <CIDR> psusi: LSI SAS1068E
[02:24] <walrus__> It is possible, I've done it before, just not in any linux distro
[02:24] <psusi> CIDR, unless it's an expensive card, it's probably fakeraid, best to disable the bios raid stuff and just set up software raid
[02:24] <CIDR> It's not fake raid
[02:24] <walrus__> And I know how to boot from USB
[02:24] <Lunar_Lander> Canadian1296: found the reason. That dirtyharry9999 seems to be the husband of the person who made that other auction
[02:24] <CIDR> But anyway, I'm disabling the raid, because of reasons I stated above
[02:24] <meskarune> Canadian1296: he is asking how to make the usb from ubuntu, so its ontopic
[02:24] <Wargasm> bleh, there is a ##windows... how irritating
[02:24] <CIDR> And want to use software raid
[02:25] <Ben64> meskarune: thats not how it works
[02:25] <psusi> CIDR, then use the alternate installer and you can set up a software raid10
[02:25] <walrus__> Sorry to bother you then, I'll just wait till I can get access to a win7 machine
[02:25] <Canadian1296> meskarune: But we aren't sure if it's even possible to make a bootable windows install usb. The people in #windows would know.
[02:25] <CIDR> psusi good deal.
[02:25] <walrus__> I was just hoping to learn to do it from linux so there won't be any pain next time
[02:26] <meskarune> walrus__: dd should have worked. maybe re-read some tutorials :)
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> _Marcus: may I ask a ontopic question?
[02:26] <psusi> walrus__, like I said, I don't think it's even possible
[02:26] <meskarune> it is possible
[02:26] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: Yes
[02:26] <meskarune> people install windows on netbooks with usb install media
[02:26] <psusi> the Ubuntu iso images are now hybrid so you can just dd them to a usb drive and boot them, but I don't think Microsoft has caught onto that yet
[02:27] <Lunar_Lander> _Marcus: I got 11.10, will it update to 12.04 automatically?
[02:27] <walrus__> Maybe not from xubuntu, but I have done it with command prompt and it worked, but not having access to a windows install at the moment I was hoping to do it from xubuntu
[02:27] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: I have no idea. I'm too new to Ubuntu to know if it updates major versions like that.
[02:27] <mun> hi
[02:27] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: My guess is: No
[02:27] <psusi> Lunar_Lamp, it will prompt you to upgrade when the time comes
[02:27] <Canadian1296> walrus__: I asked in #windows. Try this: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool
[02:27] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, it will automatically offer you the opportunity to do the update and suggest it, but you have to click yes
[02:27] <mun> does anyone know of a easy way to bind keyboard keys to a mouse button?
[02:27] <walrus__> I'm not making a bootable windows installation, just the installer itsself
[02:27] <Ben64> Lunar_Lander: it won't do it for you, but you can start the upgrade
[02:27] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[02:28] <walrus__> I can't use that tool, I don't have windows
[02:28] <walrus__> Just ubuntu
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> I remember from 10.10 when I booted in LIVE Mode, there was a window coming up "Do you want to Upgrade to 11.10?"
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> something like this will appear then?
[02:28] <Ben64> Lunar_Lander: yes
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[02:28] <Canadian1296> walrus__: You just have to burn an iso to a memory stcik. You can do that in ubuntu
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> is a version jump big?
[02:28] <psusi> Canadian1296, that only works if it is a hybrid iso
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> i.e. like a big download?
[02:29] <psusi> Lunar_Lander, yes
[02:29] <walrus__> Canadian1296: I just can't figure out how to do it
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> can you give me a ballpark number?
[02:29] <walrus__> Well
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> like the size of a CD or so?
[02:29] <psusi> Lunar_Lander, give or take, yea
[02:29] <hacker> hai all
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[02:29] <walrus__> Thanks for the help, I'll do it some other time :D
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> managable :)
[02:31] <jonathon> walrus_ unetbootin?
[02:32] <jonathon> it is a tool to create a bootable usb from iso
[02:32] <meskarune> walrus__: http://gizmodo.com/5257386/how-to-install-windows-7-on-almost-any-netbook
[02:32] <meskarune> the instructions on there use dd to make the install media
[02:34] <gerson> ola
[02:36] <_Marcus> gerson: Hi
[02:36] <kingnebula> hello
[02:37] <_Marcus> kingnebula: Hi
[02:37] <blawiz> anyone use gmrun? how can one add a folder to the path?
[02:37] <kingnebula> How is ATI support under linux
[02:38] <kingnebula> I'm deciding between NVidia and AMD*
[02:38] <meskarune> kingnubula: I have had great luck with nvidia cards, but I heard that ati was releasing open source drivers, so idk
[02:39] <Yabden> historically I think many would agree that ATI support is not as good
[02:39] <escott> kingnebula, ati has some actual open source efforts, but you often hear people suggest that nvidia has better quality drivers
[02:40] <cJether> hello
[02:40] <Yabden> I am not sure how ATI stacks up right at this moment, but in terms of Linux drivers they have not been well received in the past
[02:40] <kingnebula> I've been doign some reading. And it seems that ATI/AMD used to be garbage.. but are making linux a priority I'm wondering if it is up to par with multi-monitor / 3D performance as the nvidia ones
[02:41] <meskarune> kingnebula: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=1
[02:41] <OerHeks> kingnebula, wait for 12.04, a lot improvement.
[02:42] <whumphrey> Is it normal to be prompted with three options in the grub when you launch Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again _Marcus, psusi and Ben64
[02:42] <OerHeks> whumphrey, yes
[02:42] <Lunar_Lander> I wish you a good night!
[02:43] <whumphrey> OerHeks, thanks
[02:43] <escott> whumphrey, you can disable it by modifying /etc/default/grub
[02:43] <OerHeks> whumphrey, would you hide the grubmenu ?
[02:44] <ssshvb> Hello guys i am trying to convert rpm to dep   and ive got this   $ for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[02:44] <ssshvb> 	LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} 'adlmapps4-4.0.35-0.x86_64.rpm' sh: rpm: not found
[02:44] <ssshvb> Error executing "LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} 'adlmapps4-4.0.35-0.x86_64.rpm'":  at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package.pm line 489.
[02:44] <whumphrey> OerHeks, I can't remember but I think that it was the default which was originally caught my attention
[02:44] <OerHeks> ssshvb, why convert rpm to deb, is there no source available ?
[02:44] <whumphrey> OerHeks, so I'm not sure how to answer that question
[02:44] <ssshvb> no
[02:45] <meskarune> ssshvb: why don't you install from source instead...?
[02:45] <ssshvb> what do you mean ?
[02:45] <meskarune> ssshvb: what program are you trying to isntall?
[02:45] <ssshvb> maya sp2
[02:46] <kingnebula> meskarune: I'm not reading all of that <_< lol
[02:47] <jonathon> Simple scan not recoginizing HP scanner after adding HP mfd. Removed HP printer, but Simple Scan does not pickup other scanner at first. Any help?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> kingnebula: ATI has better open source drivers (as they actively pay open source developers), Nvidia has better proprietary drivers.
[02:49] <meskarune> kingnebula: reading is how you learn! plus the article is really interesting. (I've read it)
[02:50] <kingnebula> Do you know which will have better webgl support?
[02:50] <kingnebula> meskarune: i agree :) but ssss.. drivers don't interest me :p
[02:50] <Jordan_U> kingnebula: I would expect it to be comparable, though that's just an educated guess.
[02:51] <escott> kingnebula, webgl=worst idea ever. another thing to consider is wayland if you plan to use the same machine in 2-3 years that might be a problem with nvidia. i have no idea what their upgrade path is
[02:51] <kingnebula> escott: :O why do you think its the worst idea ever?
[02:51] <kingnebula> Its the colest thing ever
[02:52] <Gskellig> what is the best way to view all the users/groups on an ubuntu server?
[02:52] <jonathon> Need some help with sane
[02:53] <escott> kingnebula, executing machine code downloaded from god knows where on your gpu... what could possibly go wrong :)
[02:53] <mun> hi
[02:53] <kingnebula> escott: <_< you don't download machine code, you use javascript
[02:53] <escott> Gskellig, /etc/groups
[02:53] <mun> does anyone here have a mouse with a tilt wheel? mine already has a back and forward button and i don't know what i should map tilt left and right to. any suggestions?
[02:53] <brimlar> kingnebula: just for something anecdotal, I went with ATI for this recent computer build (3 months ago), having always previously preferred nVidia...and it is a really nice experience.  updates are flawless, performance is great...ymmv
[02:54] <kingnebula> brimlar: hmm maybe i'll try an AMD card for a change
[02:55] <kingnebula> escott: I like playing games. And i like Linux. i think webgl is great because it will lower the barrier for people wanting to switch to linux. I know atleast 5 people who want to jump to the linux camp but aren't ready to giveup their games.
[02:55] <escott> kingnebula, the actual gl code gets run directly on the gpu. its supposed to be a restricted set, but its not interpreted in the way that javascript is.
[02:56] <const_antine> can anyone recommend a good general purpose audio/video recoder?
[02:56] <kingnebula> ffmpeg
[02:57] <const_antine> thank you
[02:57] <meskarune> const_antine: cheese
[02:57] <kingnebula> you are welcome
[02:57] <meskarune> cheese records audio and video from a webcam
[02:57] <OerHeks> mun: tilt right > webcam-photo tilt left: imagebin it
[02:57] <kingnebula> yah, ffmpeg is commandline.. I think it has a few front-end GUIs but haven't had luck with them
[02:58] <kingnebula> escott: I suppose you do have a valid point there
[02:58] <meskarune> http://projects.gnome.org/cheese/
[02:59] <OerHeks> cheese is standard installed
[02:59] <meskarune> a lot of games can be played in linux with wine, and you can get awesome linux games from the indie humble bundle
[03:00] <const_antine> ...cheese?
[03:00] <meskarune> cheese is in reference to people who say "cheese" to a camera
[03:01] <const_antine> recoder, not recorder
[03:01] <kingnebula> const_antine: yah for recoder  ffmpeg is your best friend
[03:01] <const_antine> my gf would add moustaches and silly hats to our photos on her phone
[03:02] <meskarune> hahaha. thats like a brain typo. lol
[03:03] <escott> kingnebula, its more concerning given the increasingly blurred distinctions between cpu/gpu.... anyone who suggested that we download machine code and execute it on the cpu would be labeled as insane, but somehow its ok with the gpu, nevermind that the next iterations of the gpu are going to have their own memory controllers
[03:04] <kingnebula> escott: I'm sure, and hope, that security mesures will be put in place as the platform evolves.
[03:04] <kingnebula> because i'm investing heavily in webgl :D
[03:06] <kingnebula> escott: has anyone found any exploits though? I mean firefox and chrome already have it enabled by default if your graphics drivers support it. If it is as big a security hole as you say, how come it hasn't been taken advantage of
[03:06] <kingnebula> and Opera is to have it in theri next release
[03:06] <bagels> I've been trying to uninstall/reinstall audacity, I changed a setting and even though I marked it for complete removal, rebooted, and reinstalled, my settings are still there.  Help?
[03:07] <glen> anybody here
[03:08] <bagels> glen as you can see from the user list, many are here.  Perhaps you meant is anyone awake/active/useful?
[03:08] <Wargasm> cheese has some great effects
[03:08] <Wargasm> loads of fun
[03:09] <glen> yes bangels...and i was having channel issues
[03:09] <bilbo_> is a segfault strictly a drive failure or could it be other componets?
[03:09] <glen> u busy bangles
[03:09] <kingnebula> bilbo_: anything can cause a segfault
[03:09] <bilbo_> how do i narrow it down?
[03:09] <kingnebula> including faulty software not just limited to drivers
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> hi, i just tryed to install ubuntu from an usb drive but the installations al ways fails because ubuntu doesn't found the cd rom drive  sr0 ? why is ubuntu trying to load the cd rom drive if the complete iso is on the stick?
[03:10] <kingnebula> bilbo_: it should say what caused the segfault
[03:10] <escott> kingnebula, CERT advises it be disabled. I've not heard or anyone using it as a vector at this point. The big problem in my mind is that any attempt to secure it is in direct contradiction to the purpose of having it. You have to strictly monitor the opengl calls and potentially emulate some of them to avoid executing dangerous code where the point of using opengl was to give more direct access to hardware.
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> i flashed with dd and the hybrid image and also tryed the usb creator
[03:10] <glen> i got rebuffed once by asking if i could ask a question and was told to simply ask, so....
[03:10] <bilbo_> ah reading.....  error 4 in python?
[03:11] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, use unetbootin, and check the iso first with md5sum
[03:11] <bilbo_> ok so i guess that is good at least it inst a drive
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i checked the iso and also tryed another oone from the xubuntu series
[03:11] <glen> my auspicious panel of intellectuals, i simply want to install updates and during the process it says that it can't finish installing
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> same problem
[03:12] <papna___> I'm on an Ubuntu 11.10 machine and my screen resolution settings are restricted to 800x600 and 1024x768, the latter of which is not displaying correctly (the desktop is too wide for the monitor). This used to work fine. Can anyone provide advice?
[03:12] <leo-unglaub> i also tryed mounting the iso manually from the rescue console
[03:12] <bilbo_> is there a log of program errors other than syslog?
[03:12] <leo-unglaub> but ubuntu is dounig an umount every time before reading
[03:13] <glen> ping timeout
[03:14] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, oke, odd solution! >> disabled the floppy controller from BIOS
[03:14] <bilbo_> is there a  t utility to identify which program is using  a package?
[03:14] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: disable or unplug?
[03:15] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, just disable it.
[03:15] <escott> bilbo_, lsof to list open filehandles
[03:15] <sx_usr__> hi guys, how can I configure my Ubuntu 11.10 to allow my USB connection to my android phone for tethering?/
[03:15] <sx_usr__> is it something called reverse tethering?
[03:15] <Archie> lol
[03:15] <glen> hey sx_usr
[03:15] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: okay, i will try that. yccording to google i am not the only one with this problem, do you think i should file a bug report? http://www.7loop.com/content/install-ubuntu-server-usb-without-cd
[03:15] <glen> i actually know something about thaty
[03:16] <glen> that*
[03:16] <glen> pdaNet
[03:16] <papna__> It looks like the bot's screen reolution help link is all back in the xorg.conf days and focused on Gnome.
[03:16] <sx_usr__> glen: can u provide more info?
[03:16] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, can't find a recent one, only ones from 2008/2009
[03:16] <glen> yes...first go to the market
[03:17] <glen> look up pdanet
[03:17] <glen> then it will give u a web site
[03:17] <sx_usr__> glen: www.pdanet.com?
[03:17] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, what hardware are you trying to install ?
[03:17] <glen> maybe...but use the android martket
[03:17] <sx_usr__> glen: ok
[03:17] <glen> it will give u download
[03:18] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: intel i7, 16gb ddr3 ram, ssd-raid0
[03:18] <sx_usr__> glen: cheers
[03:18] <glen> then it will direct u to a web site to install it on your machine
[03:18] <glen> wait...theres more
[03:18] <share> there is no /dev/lirc0 in Ubuntu Maverick - kernel 2.6.35-32
[03:18] <share> wtf
[03:18] <glen> i used pdanet
[03:18] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, should not have a floppy disc installed, awesome
[03:19] <glen> it starts out fine, and then after some time it will begin not allow u to access secure sites
[03:19] <glen> unless u purchase the full package
[03:19] <glen> however...it worked great
[03:19] <glen> i first jail broke my ipad
[03:20] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: moment, why floppy? is sr0 not the cd rom drive?
[03:20] <glen> then used pdanet to use for wireless hot spot
[03:20] <glen> worked even better
[03:20] <glen> u still sx
[03:20] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, the solution is only valid if there is a floppy drive installed, ofcourse
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: this pdanet is for windows?
[03:21] <leo-unglaub> i just disabled the cd rom drive
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: does it support Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:21] <leo-unglaub> but the eror still exists
[03:21] <glen> it does
[03:21] <glen> it supports ubuntu, win, and mac
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: cool! im downloading it now!
[03:22] <glen> however...if you root your droid there are several more apps that allow tethering and wireless tethering
[03:22] <sx_usr__> glen: my droid is rooted :P
[03:22] <glen> awesome
[03:22] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, i am not well known with xubuntu, but to start with raid0, i need ubuntu alternate cd to do so...
[03:22] <sx_usr__> gen: but basically i just need internet connection from my notebook to phone
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: i can do usb tethering from phone to notebook with no problem
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i an only using the alternate disc. and i just tryed the xubuntu to make sure it's not my normal ubuntu image
[03:23] <glen> so you are trying to do reverse tethering
[03:23] <glen> i did that via my opad
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: exactly!
[03:23] <glen> ipad
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> i had the raid running for the last year without any problems
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: cool! :D
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> i just wannted to reinstall and now i have this problems
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: simply love technology!
[03:24] <leo-unglaub> never had them before
[03:24] <glen> ate up my limited data plan
[03:24] <hmax> I broke my 11.10 install by enabling compiz cube.  Is there any way I can repair it?  BTW, why is compizconfig still in the repository if it has fatal bugs?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|cfhowlett
[03:24] <glen> absolutely
[03:24] <mangdood> In Ubuntu, web browsers don't let me access domains with hyphens at the beginning or end of them, but it works in Windows. Any idea how I can get it to work
[03:24] <glen> sx_user
[03:24] <leo-unglaub> maybe i should trying flashing the usb install drive on a different computer. maybe there is an error
[03:24] <glen> i have not ventured into rooting yet
[03:24] <sx_usr__> glen: :) u should root it...very interesting...
[03:24] <glen> it took a while for me to jailbreak
[03:24] <glen> what is the easiest way
[03:25] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, i hope that would solve it. or boot it..
[03:25] <sx_usr__> glen: Im using Samsung Galaxy S2, so I use Odin :D
[03:25] <glen> i have a galaxy prevail
[03:25] <glen> i will look at youtube again
[03:25] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i have to find a nother pc here..that could take some time :) big thanks for your help!
[03:25] <urfr332g0> hmax, boot to another desktop or reboot and hit the reset for compiz, it is not fatal it is tricky lots of instructions on the net on how to do it.
[03:25] <glen> there are all sorts of tutorials
[03:25] <sx_usr__> glen: try www.androidflip.com on how to do that
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: i personally find androidflip site the most reliable for the tutorial
[03:26] <glen> sx_usr_: thanks
[03:26] <hmax> urfr332g0: what is the reset for compiz?
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: cuz i had mine done based on the tutorial from androidflip
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: no worries
[03:26] <urfr332g0> hmax, it is in compiz
[03:26] <dr--willis> hmax:  the webupd8 blog site has a posting on resetting compiz and unity
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: btw, im on XXKG6 2.3.4 Gingerbread
[03:26] <glen> i will try it
[03:26] <hmax> I can't access that.  Unity is broken.
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: with BLN kernel plugged-in
[03:26] <glen> ??
[03:26] <glen> no clue
[03:26] <hmax> urfr332g0: I can't access that.  Unity is broken.
[03:27] <klenwell> Hi. Basic question. Just got a new HP Pavilion g7-1310us laptop and want to install Ubuntu. Not finding much specific info on web. Comes w/ 64-bit Windows 7. Should I go with 11.10 64-bit?
[03:27] <sx_usr__> glen: hehe
[03:27] <dr--willis> hmax:  install a different wm or pc
[03:27] <urfr332g0> hmax, have you rebooted yet
[03:27] <jingcleovil> hi klenwell
[03:27] <glen> if you only knew
[03:27] <dr--willis> hmax: or a different usee
[03:27] <hmax> urfr332g0: I have rebooted
[03:27] <dr--willis> user
[03:27] <sx_usr__> glen: BLN = BackLight Notification
[03:27] <jingcleovil> @klenwell - what is your memory?
[03:28] <sx_usr__> glen: im currently on this until ICS 4.0.3 is super stable
[03:28] <hmax> dr--willis: I will try a different user
[03:28] <klenwell> @jingcleovil 6 GB
[03:28] <JBond> Hi
[03:28] <jingcleovil> go for 64gig
[03:28] <urfr332g0> hmax, install gnome 3 and you get the fallback and the gnome desktop, you can fix it from there.
[03:28] <jingcleovil> 64 bit
[03:28] <JBond> i am new here
[03:28] <jingcleovil> i mean
[03:28] <hmax> urfr332g0: thanks
[03:28] <urfr332g0> hmax, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:28] <JBond> need help
[03:28] <JBond> please
[03:28] <klenwell> @jingcleovil Thanks, I'll give it a go.
[03:29] <jingcleovil> k.
[03:29] <dr--willis> JBond: state the issue
[03:29] <JBond> Thx dr--willis
[03:29] <JBond> I just wanto to know how can I check the NODE
[03:30] <dr--willis> what node?
[03:30] <JBond> I installed Phone (dnet-progs), but I don't know how to check the NODE
[03:31] <JBond> phone dial format: NODE::USER
[03:32] <jingcleovil> Hi, how can i drag and drop window from 1 workspace pane to another?
[03:32] <sx_usr__> glen: i don't see the isntaller for pdanet for Ubuntu
[03:32] <sx_usr__> glen: where is this installer?
[03:32] <jingcleovil> is there any configuration.
[03:33] <thevaliantx> what are the latest distros coming out?  I'm getting kind of bored with ubuntu, pinguy os, debian.
[03:33] <xangua> jingcleovil: clic on the workplace icon, drag what you want
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | thevaliantx
[03:34] <jingcleovil> @xangua, I do it but its quite stacked and not moving.
[03:34] <SimonTam> I still have made no progress on my login screen thing
[03:35] <jingcleovil> @xanga my kernel release version is 3.0.0-16-generic
[03:35] <SimonTam> But I have found that it's the mouse that makes it die
[03:36] <SimonTam> Trouble is... The mouse is kinda necessary
[03:36] <bennylb> SimonTam: What version of ubuntu? And is it a fresh install?
[03:37] <SimonTam> 11.10 not fresh
[03:38] <bennylb> What was changed to make this happen?
[03:39] <JBond> Does anyone know how to check Ubuntu Phone NODE ?
[03:39] <SimonTam> Benny nothing afaik
[03:42] <ocraM> hello
[03:42] <JBond> Hi ocraM
[03:42] <Ariel88> Hi everyone
[03:42] <bennylb> If it hasn't been installed long for a long period I would think about setting your system up in such a way that you can do a fresh install whenever you need. This is often the most efficient way of getting things up and running again. It only take 5 minutes.
[03:43] <Ariel88> Oh sorry ; wrong place
[03:43] <ocraM> i need some help
[03:43] <JBond> yes ocraM
[03:43] <cola_ftw_> does freenode keep chat logs?
[03:43] <ensi> ok, whats going on, i have frensh install of 11.10, did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[03:43] <linuxjones> is there a way to log into remote desktop and then use the monitor mirror the remote desktop session?
[03:43] <ensi> now for example i cannot install apt-get build-essential
[03:43] <ensi> cause its bitching about c++
[03:43] <ensi> g++
[03:44] <ensi> and apt-get instlal g++ "the following packages have unmet depenceies: g++ depends: g++-4.6 (...) but it s not going to be installed"
[03:44] <ocraM> JBond?
[03:44] <ensi> wtf is this crap
[03:44] <JBond> yep ocraM
[03:44] <urfr332g0> ocraM, ask your question if you need help. :)
[03:44] <ocraM> do you know ssh?
[03:44] <ensi> "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages", wth is that, i have broken packages in the past but dont have any more
[03:45] <ensi> woot'
[03:45] <bennylb> ensi: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:45] <somsip> !ask | ocraM
[03:45] <ensi> bennylb: triedalredy
[03:45] <bennylb> ensi: maybe reconfigure apt
[03:46] <ensi> sudo dpkg-configure apt
[03:46] <ensi> the problem still persists
[03:46] <ensi> this reminds me of the dayswith red hat 72.
[03:46] <ensi> it was same shit with broken packages and package managers
[03:46] <ensi> how far it linux hs come... hahah not very far
[03:47] <urfr332g0> !language > ensi
[03:47] <ocraM> how do you bypass a permissin denied thing in ssh
[03:47] <mangdood> ocraM, what are you trying to do
[03:47] <Stameni> Hello, i crated a program that saves dictionary data in binary file, on new start it loads that file and it worked fine. However, i mooved program and its data file in system path (/home/user/bin ) and when i start it from terminal it reports IOError and says thet there is no file called "data". How to fix this ?
[03:48] <ensi> iäm going to blow a fuse about now
[03:48] <ocraM> get into a computer that is in a lab its basically a quiz
[03:48] <mangdood> ocraM, you won't be able to if they locked you out until the quiz is over
[03:50] <ocraM> but like im logged in as root but im ssh in this guys computer. and the firewall is in there but i cant take it down
[03:51] <mangdood> ocraM, if you are in the computer, the firewall doesn't matter. If you are not on sshed into that computer, you can't take down the firewall
[03:52] <Tyrope> Hello #Ubuntu, I had the weirdest problem when running the liveCD earlier, left mouse button didn't work (cursor moved just fine), but when I ran qwebirc in firefox it worked fine, as long as firefox was maximized and i was clicking on the page.
[03:52] <ocraM> like its a lab lead by one man im trying to change a setting on all comps
[03:52] <urfr332g0> Tyrope, you md5sum check the iso or disc?
[03:52] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: I have indeed.
[03:52] <mangdood> ocraM, if you're only logged in as root on YOUR computer, you won't be able to do such a thing.
[03:52] <Tyrope> (disc)
[03:53] <urfr332g0> !ot | ocraM
[03:53] <JSeongTae76> Hello
[03:53] <ocraM> goign to darkmyst
[03:54] <cfhowlett> JSeongTae76   greetings
[03:54] <const_antine> why wont ffmpeg accept vob target?
[03:54] <JSeongTae76> When Ubuntu 12.04 will release
[03:54] <JSeongTae76> ?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> JSeongTae76   April  #ubuntu+1
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> cfhowlett, I ask day
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> Day, Month (April)
[03:55] <const_antine> stupid time
[03:55] <const_antine> bye
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !precise|Jseongtae76 04/26/2012 IIRC
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> ubottu, Thanks
[03:57] <ocraM> who are you obottu
[03:57] <ensi> using linux is detrimental toyour health and your environment
[03:58] <mangdood> ensi, sad, but true
[03:58] <baoyu_yang> hello
[03:59] <ocraM> oubottu: who are you
[03:59] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   nihao
[03:59] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: any other suggestions, other than the md5?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !ubottu>ocraM
[03:59] <baoyu_yang> I'm new here
[04:00] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   Welcome.  This is the ubuntu support channel.  If you need help, state the problem and ask.
[04:01] <urfr332g0> Tyrope, not really you might check your computer model and ubuntu in general, the problem is not static really.
[04:01] <pmp6nl> Hello, does anyone know of a way to convert xml to odf, rtf, or html?  Thanks
[04:02] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: I'll just hope it works normally at school in a few hours then. not planning on running ubuntu on this machine anymore anyway. Thanks!
[04:03] <ocraM> mangdood: u still connected?
[04:04] <somsip> pmp6nl: ISTR openoffice used to have a command line option for some conversions. Not sure if libreoffice has it too
[04:05] <cfhowlett> pmp6nl   software center search for "xml convert" yields numerous hits...
[04:06] <x-jd-x> I am having some trouble understanding why /bin/login requires root "sudo" permissions?
[04:07] <x-jd-x> any ideas?
[04:07] <ocraM> mangdood
[04:07] <bazhang> ocraM, do you have an ubuntu support issue
[04:08] <ocraM> im trying to reach someone and yes i do
[04:08] <bazhang> ocraM, then ask the channel
[04:08] <ocraM> bazhang: id yourself
[04:08] <DejahThoris> x-jd-x; because it needs to create processes not belonging to it?
[04:09] <pmp6nl> somsip: thanks Ill look.  cfhowlett I was looking at a few of those, one keeps freezing and the other wont convert it to another format, trying a 3rd option
[04:09] <cfhowlett> pmp6nl   have fun/good luck
[04:09] <baoyu_yang> why some text can't be displayed in this window
[04:10] <x-jd-x> not belonging to the oringal shell?
[04:10] <DejahThoris> x-jd-xl /bin/login has to create a process not belonging to it, but to a user
[04:10] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   special characters don't show well.  Basic english words work best.
[04:13] <bascotie> QUESTION: Hi guys, I installed Server 2008 on a second hard drive on the machine that had Ubuntu 11.10. How can I add Ubuntu to the Windows bootloader, or Grub I suppose.
[04:14] <urfr332g0> bascotie, in 11.10 sudo update-grub
[04:14] <Yabden> bascotie you could boot to a linux cd, mount your ubuntu system, and set up grub again to include windows
[04:14] <Yabden> or do that
[04:14] <bascotie> urfr332g0: I can't get into Ubuntu, it goes straight to Windows Server
[04:14] <bascotie> Yabden: I'm a big newb to linux terminal, do you know a good write up for this?
[04:14] <x-jd-x> bascotie; I know that if you install lilo as the boot loader then back up the mbr dd if=/dev/disk of=lilo.mbr you can configure bcdedit to boot ubuntu. Or just use grub as you said.
[04:14] <DejahThoris> bascotie; sounds like you need to change the boot drive in the bios
[04:14] <urfr332g0> bascotie, you have ubuntu at all you sya you had ubuntu
[04:15] <urfr332g0> said
[04:15] <ensi> ok, this 11.10 is the last ubuntu for me,t he quality has dropped dramatically
[04:15] <ensi> :/
[04:15] <ensi> i'm going for archlinux
[04:15] <Yabden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:15] <ensi> thanks for all the hard work, close but no cigar
[04:16] <trailblazerz11> Hi. My grub bootloader isnt working after installing ubuntu
[04:16] <arcfide> Hey all.
[04:16] <bascotie> urfr332g0: I do have Ubuntu, i guess ill try to manually boot to that drive and install grub, do you know an article that could help me add windows?
[04:16] <cfhowlett> arcfide   greetings
[04:16] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, this the only OS?
[04:16] <bascotie> Nevermind, I'll search for adding windows to grub2 and let you know
[04:16] <arcfide> I have some software that I am developing, and it uses MetaPost from TeX Live.  I sent it out for testing and two people with Ubuntu machines reported issues with getting the meta post working.
[04:17] <mangdood> trailblazerz11, you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:17] <urfr332g0> ! grub | bascotie
[04:17] <ocraM> someone is hacking me... _._
[04:17] <arcfide> I do not have an Ubuntu system with me, so I am hoping that someone here can tell me what the problem is with the MetaPost, as they both have the exact same errors.
[04:17] <bazhang> ocraM, please stay on topic
[04:17] <DejahThoris> bascotie; since it's on separate hdds, you can probably use your system bios as a boot menu
[04:17] <urfr332g0> bascotie, reload grub with a live cd then when in ubuntu run sudo update-grub
[04:17] <arcfide> I did not have these problem with my main distribution, you can see the error here:
[04:17] <ocraM> thats my problem
[04:17] <arcfide> https://gist.github.com/1850446
[04:17] <lwizardl> when making a directory output list (dir > list.txt) is there a way to keep it from using \ to escape the spaces in the output ? I'm wanting to have this dsc 0001.jpg instead of dsc\ 0001.jpg
[04:18] <arcfide> Doing a search lead me to a few things that didn't get me a solution.
[04:18] <bascotie> urfr332g0: i'll try that article, thank you
[04:18] <bascotie> and thanks to everyone else DejahThoris
[04:18] <arcfide> Does anyone know about Tex Live on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <bascotie> DejahThoris: i can, but i'd like to try the grub for fun :)
[04:18] <mangdood> arcfide, very little, can I help?
[04:19] <arcfide> mangdood: See the above, my problem is with mpost on Ubuntu systems 10.x and 11.x.
[04:20] <ocraM> my disc tray just ejected i didnt do it
[04:20] <DejahThoris> we control your computer ...
[04:20] <x-jd-x> DajahThoris; the problem that I am trying to over come is forcing a secondary login on ssh. I came across idea to use /bin/login as a ForceCommand for a user in sshd_config but there were not specific details so I working out myself. I first configure login as my force command and the session closes because login: Cannot possibly work without effective root. So I add the user to sudoers with permissions to run /bin/login but then bec
[04:20] <x-jd-x> n my shell also tries to run under sudo which I did not allow nor do I want it to
[04:21] <ocraM> did you try su?
[04:22] <ocraM> x-jd-x:did you try su [user]?
[04:23] <Ben64> x-jd-x: what are you trying to do
[04:23] <x-jd-x> as my ForceCommand? No I will have to see if sshd_config allow for a %u or something to substiude the user automatically.
[04:23] <ocraM> x-jd-x: like do you want to like appear as a different user?
[04:25] <ocraM> who keeps us on task
[04:25] <bazhang> !ot | ocraM
[04:25] <ocraM> ?
[04:25] <x-jd-x> I am trying to create a two factor authentication for ssh. I do not consider a key password to be a second factor. So I use a key for ssh authentication and then I force something like exec /bin/login to go through the normal login process. allowing me to then type my username and password and still use the system password and policies defined for the user.
[04:26] <ocraM> google it :)
[04:26] <trailblazerz11> I used boot repair it sayed sucessful but still no grub
[04:26] <bazhang> ocraM, never suggest that here.
[04:26] <ocraM> bazhang: Who are you
[04:26] <bazhang> !google > ocraM
[04:26] <Ben64> x-jd-x: thats not what the second auth is for
[04:27] <bazhang> ocraM, this is not the chat channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[04:27] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, does that boot repair generate a results.txt?
[04:27] <ocraM> i cant find off topic
[04:27] <x-jd-x> Ben64; are you saying that is not what /bin/login is for?
[04:28] <Ben64> x-jd-x: it won't work how you want it to, and its not very secure like that either
[04:28] <ocraM> bazhang: please identify yourself
[04:29] <x-jd-x> Ben64; how could it be an less secure then just a key? I am using my key and providing the user password. Where does the less secure start?
[04:30] <Ben64> x-jd-x: https://calomel.org/openssh.html check out the ssh_gatekeeper section
[04:30] <x-jd-x> is it /bin/login is not a secure method to login because that is the normal login process is it not?
[04:30] <x-jd-x> will do
[04:30] <klenwell> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit on my new HP Pavilion g7-1310us. Booted from CD, saw purple screen briefly. Now screen is black. DVD is running, but screen's been black for a couple minutes. Is this normal?
[04:31] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, run this script and pastebin the results.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <cfhowlett> klenwell   no it's not.  Are you still booting from the DVD?
[04:31] <klenwell> Yes.
[04:31] <klenwell> I ran wubi and that seemed to run ok.
[04:31] <urfr332g0> !nomodeset | klenwell
[04:31] <cfhowlett> klenwell   the problem is on the wubi or on the DVD boot?
[04:32] <klenwell> Ok. Yes. I see the install screen but very very faintly.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> klenwell   see text / safe graphics mode options or run the text installer
[04:32] <bazhangg> SMD
[04:32] <cfhowlett> bazhang  ?SMD?
[04:32] <urfr332g0> klenwell, check the b ots message as well.
[04:34] <klenwell> cfhowlett ok. will follow directions on link. Should I just hard reboot?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> klenwell   yes.
[04:34] <urfr332g0> reisub
[04:35] <urfr332g0> ;-)
[04:35] <Zillow> question: anyway to position windows quick with key commands like in win7?
[04:35] <trailblazerz11> Here is my results from boot-repair paste.ubuntu/845360/
[04:36] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, can you give the whole url
[04:37] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, got it hold on
[04:37] <trailblazerz11> Ok thank you
[04:38] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, I am not efi competent
[04:39] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you have efi partitioning
[04:39] <klenwell> cfhowlett just to clarify... I'm on the purple boot screen shown on the link. I hit F6. Do I just want to hit nomodeset so it's x'd out?
[04:39] <Zillow> alright I'm using 10.04, and I know about holding shift while draggain a window around but I'm looking for actions like that on win xp and win7 with how you can hold the orb key and press arrows
[04:39] <cfhowlett> klenwell wait 1
[04:40] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you want to choose nomodeset
[04:40] <urfr332g0> then boot
[04:41] <klenwell> cfhowlett directions are kinda ambiguous on that webpage... so I choose it and a little x appears next to it. That's what I want?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> klenwell   see urfr332g0's msg ...
[04:41] <jfenwick> I'm having some problems with networking on ubuntu server. I changed my eth0 to be a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, then I restarted with /etc/init.d/networking restart, then I changed it back to dhcp and restarted again, but now it won't switch back to dhcp
[04:42] <jfenwick> no matter how many times I try to restart it
[04:42] <klenwell> cfhowlett urfr332g0 so I click nomodeset, x shows up next to it. Do I want to then choose Install Ubuntu from screen menu?
[04:43] <cfhowlett> klenwell   that's correct
[04:43] <klenwell> cfhowlett Thanks. Going to give it a try here.
[04:43] <urfr332g0> klenwell, boot to the desktop and seee if it runs
[04:44] <jfenwick> ah, maybe I need dhclient
[04:44] <orated> Hi. Soon after login, I see a java process running in background. I don't have any startup script to start anything related to java nor do I see it in services. Is there any command to find what all packages related to java are installed?
[04:45] <su22> How to increase the boot speed of Ubuntu?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> su22   what is the current boot time?
[04:46] <su22> about a minute
[04:46] <Nach0z> su22: disable stuff. a lot of stuff. EVERYTHING.
[04:46] <reacktor> mins
[04:46] <cfhowlett> su22   a whole minute? and you want what?
[04:46] <Nach0z> seriously though, the only way to increase the boot speed is to get better hardware, or remove as much add-on unnecessary stuff from the startup sequence as possible.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> su22   disable all startup apps that you don't need...
[04:47] <mangdood> orated, you can try ps axjf
[04:47] <Ben64> get a SSD as a boot drive
[04:47] <su22> ok
[04:47] <Nach0z> ^^SSD for your OS is a real good way to do it
[04:47] <su22> Hey the DVD-ROM drive is not getting detected in my Ubuntu
[04:47] <satyanash> SSD are costly.
[04:48] <satyanash> Rs. 5000 for 40GB intel SSD
[04:48] <Nach0z> satyanash: what currency is that o_0
[04:48] <satyanash> Rupees.
[04:48] <pnorman> is that 40GB SLC or MCL?
[04:48] <Nach0z> ah. I have NO idea what the conversion rate for that is.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> satyanash   prices are dropping...
[04:48] <Nach0z> su22: um, check /dev/sr0, that's usually where I see DVD stuff.
[04:49] <satyanash> Rs. ~48 =  1$
[04:49] <cfhowlett> satyanash   prices are dropping SLOWLY
[04:50] <su22> /dev/sr0 exists
[04:50] <orated> Hey cfhowlett Even I get boot time of about 60s. But I'm not sure what specifically to disable, can you help me fix it? - http://imagebin.org/199031 http://imagebin.org/199035
[04:50] <trailblazerz11> Is there any other way to recover grub bootloader. Boot-repair not working
[04:51] <Ben64> !fixgrub | trailblazerz11
[04:51] <su22> trailblazer11: Hey have Super GRUB2 disk
[04:51] <satyanash> So it's roughly equal to USD100 for 40GB Intel SSD
[04:52] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you have a efi you want to mention that
[04:52] <mangdood> orated, how did you get that image? I want to test my boot time too
[04:52] <cfhowlett> orated   Go through System>Preferences>Startup Applications and disable everything that you don't need on boot.  In my case, as I have no bluetooth, I killed that.  Apps can be invoked as you need them, so you'll be waiting post-boot...
[04:53] <su22> hey I have all startup apps disabled
[04:53] <orated> mangdood: Install bootchart and find png from /var/log/bootchart after each boot
[04:53] <su22> But........boot time as usual
[04:53] <Ben64> its all about disk speed, get a faster one to decrease boot time
[04:54] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, here is a wiki on grub2 and efi.
[04:54] <urfr332g0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[04:54] <urfr332g0> read carefully
[04:54] <orated> cfhowlett: Yes, I did that.  Is there something like readahead to reduce boot time ?
[04:55] <x-jd-x> Ben64; still around?
[04:55] <Ben64> x-jd-x: on and off
[04:55] <bloopletech> I've just had my laptop repaired, and while it was away I attempted to use the hard drive in a machine with different hardware. After popping my drive back in, I've been having issues with lightdm etc. I've reinstalled the greeter, unity, lightdm, and ubuntu-desktop, but the window decorations aren't quite right - I tried unticking/ticking window decoration in ccsm and that fixed my top panel icons, but not my window titlebars
[04:55] <su22> Hey /dev/sr0 exists but when I insert a CD or a DVD it is not getting detected at all..In windows 7 it gets detected
[04:56] <bobo37774> su22: Trying to decrease boot time?
[04:56] <su22> How to fix it
[04:56] <su22> yes bobo37774
[04:56] <bloopletech> This is in oneiric
[04:56] <bobo37774> try "e4rat" instead of ureadahead
[04:57] <Ben64> su22: insert a cd or dvd, and do "dmesg | tail -n 25" in a terminal, and pastebin the result
[04:57] <Zillow> where is ppa sources located and can I edit it?
[04:57] <bobo37774> su22: try "e4rat" instead of ureadahead. It increased my boot time a lot. If that is not enough try a light window manager
[04:58] <su22> Well I tried XFCE, LXDE and Enlightenment bobo37774..k..I'll try e4rat
[04:58] <mangdood> orated, KDE takes a large part of your boot time. your filesystem seems to be checked too much as well
[04:58] <trailblazerz11> If i use supergrub2 is it easy to fix bootloader once in os?
[04:58] <bloopletech> Zillow: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources/list.d/
[04:59] <almoxarife> su22: why fixate on bootup?
[04:59] <bloopletech> You can edit it if you know what you're doing
[04:59] <trailblazerz11> I dont know what i am doing lol
[04:59] <Zillow> thanks!
[04:59] <bobo37774> su22: make sure you read the documentation thoroughly
[04:59] <su22> well you can boot into your old system trailblazer11
[05:00] <su22> Afterwards fix as usual
[05:00] <su22> Or another easy method is to purge and re-install GRUB at once trailblazer11
[05:00] <kraz3d> Acer Aspire laptop w/ Kubuntu 11.10 -- My battery monitor isn't working. For instance right now it shows it's plugged in with 77% but I just unplugged it after charging it for hours it should be at 100.
[05:00] <kraz3d> How can I update it or fix it?
[05:00] <x-jd-x> Ben64; the site was down but with a little digging I found the script. Basically a slick way of requiring additional information but not a user password really. Cool script I book marked it. I am however determined to see my challenge through if possible. do you see a security flaw in using a key + ForceCommand exec su $USER. exec makes it so that the command cannot be escaped back to the oringal shell and if login fails the connecti
[05:00] <bloopletech> wierd, the max min close buttons are staying over on the right end of the title bar
[05:01] <orated> mangdood: Yes. I don't get the fsck part as to why its doing that. As far as I see even nfs and ntfs mounts as per fstab are taking time which I disabled. What process of KDE do you find taking time?
[05:01] <trailblazerz11> Mind explaing su22 i r nub
[05:01] <x-jd-x> Ben64; It also allows password polices to take effect in the login process. Unless I am missing something that would seem pretty secure.
[05:01] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you might go to the ubuntu forums and start a thread and pot the bootscript, your set up if you don't identify iy to the channel will not get fixed correctly.
[05:01] <urfr332g0> post*
[05:01] <Ben64> x-jd-x: it is basically the same type of authentication twice, pretty redundant
[05:02] <su22> Hey is there any cool Ubuntu app to get Facebook updates?? [Not Gwibber]
[05:02] <mangdood> orated, KDE for the login screen and for starting your kde session takes a butt load of time
[05:02] <x-jd-x> Ben64; once with a key and once with a password. Something you have and something you know.
[05:02] <almoxarife> su22: what is a 'facebook update'?
[05:03] <su22> oh sorry almoxarife....It is not Update..It is 'Notification'!!
[05:03] <su22> Facebook notifications
[05:03] <almoxarife> mangdood: i dont see that issue
[05:04] <orated> mangdood: Agreed. Time till KDM is ~40s which is also. Its not KDE alone
[05:04] <bobo37774> su22: What about empathy? I am pretty sure that works with facebook
[05:04] <orated> ..also more than normal*
[05:04] <su22> Ben64 "dmesg | tail -n 25" I executed..But it is not working...
[05:04] <su22> bobo37774...It is just for chatting
[05:04] <x-jd-x> Ben64; both have to pass or the connection does not succeed. and you just configure ssh to only allow key authentication then su will get the password part. I don't know.
[05:05] <baoyu_yang> when i install software, the status always is Applying changes
[05:05] <bobo37774> su22: Oh I see what you're saying
[05:05] <Ben64> su22: try just "dmesg" then
[05:05] <bloopletech> x-jd-x: what are you trying to do?
[05:06] <su22> Ben64: NOT WORKING...:(
[05:06] <Ben64> su22: you must not be typing it correctly then
[05:06] <brerrabbit> Ok...i know Im totally about to get chased out of here for asking this...but where could someone go to learn about centos for an ubuntu user?
[05:06] <mangdood> orated, It seems to me that mounting and checking your disks takes 20 seconds, some random processes that I don't know take about 10 seconds and KDM takes the rest of the time...
[05:06] <bazhang> brerrabbit, in what context
[05:06] <brerrabbit> server
[05:06] <bloopletech> brerrabbit: probably the centos website, I think they have a wiki, maybe there's a #centos?
[05:07] <Bobenhaus> question: is it possible to add the PearOS UI to Ubuntu?
[05:07] <x-jd-x> su22; try cat /var/log/dmesg | tail -n 25
[05:07] <bazhang> #centos brerrabbit
[05:07] <brerrabbit> i thought it would be similar...but EVERYTHING is different
[05:07] <Ben64> brerrabbit: except for packages, it is very similar
[05:07] <brerrabbit> #bazhang...i tried #centos
[05:07] <somsip> su22: tail -n 25 -f /var/log/syslog
[05:08] <brerrabbit> Ben64....there are odd things...no sudo, cant touch file.txt
[05:08] <brerrabbit> etc
[05:08] <brerrabbit> can't save a file from pico etc
[05:08] <Ben64> brerrabbit: touch works fine in centos
[05:08] <cfhowlett> brerrabbit   we learn by doing...
[05:08] <su22> somsip..What is that?
[05:08] <brerrabbit> yes we do cfhowlett...
[05:09] <bazhang> Bobenhaus, the mac os looking one?
[05:09] <somsip> su22: you seem to be receiving differing advice on how to tail dmesg.
[05:09] <bazhang> brerrabbit, check their wiki then. centos is offtopic here
[05:10] <su22> yeah..Bit confusing...I'm not technically sound
[05:10] <brerrabbit> yeah...i wasnt trying to initiate a discussion here, more like a "go here"
[05:10] <brerrabbit> i know better...
[05:10] <bazhang> you could try alis
[05:10] <brerrabbit> thanks anyway
[05:10] <Ben64> brerrabbit: you should just use ubuntu server :)
[05:10] <bazhang> !alis
[05:10] <orated> mangdood: Yes, thanks. I'll try to fix that
[05:10] <almoxarife> brerrabbit: go 'not-here'
[05:11] <brerrabbit> Ben64: believe me I wanted to, but I also wanted Cpanel.  which apparently is incompatible
[05:11] <mangdood> orated, almoxarife might know better, I'm just a noob >_>
[05:11] <cfhowlett> brerrabbit   SFAIK no one has written centos>>>ubuntu guide
[05:11] <brerrabbit> ok
[05:11] <brerrabbit> worth a try
[05:11] <Ben64> ew, cpanel
[05:11] <goku1> noob
[05:11] <brerrabbit> ha...eww editing bind9 files by hand
[05:11] <goku1> lol
[05:11] <bazhang> goku1, please dont use that here
[05:11] <Ben64> !info webmin
[05:12] <Ben64> oh.
[05:12] <orated> mangdood: Beginner in bootchart here too
[05:12] <bazhang> !ebox
[05:12] <Ben64> bazhang: thanks
[05:13] <kraz3d> How can I install the gnome batterystatus app in KDE and get rid of KDE's default one?
[05:13] <almoxarife> i prefer the gui version of 'tail' its called 'log-viewer'
[05:14] <mangdood> almoxarife, LOL
[05:14] <kraz3d> I installed the ppa repository's and everything, but how do I run the application?
[05:14] <almoxarife> kraz3d: what ppa?
[05:15] <ludwin01> kraz 3d why dont you change your desktop to gnome?
[05:15] <kraz3d> I don't want to
[05:15] <kraz3d> I prefer KDE
[05:15] <bobo37774> kraz3d: gnome apps go on gnome-panel are you using gnome panel?
[05:15] <kraz3d> however, I'm having problems with the battery monitor
[05:15] <kraz3d> ah
[05:15] <kraz3d> no
[05:15] <kraz3d> fuck
[05:15] <FloodBot1> kraz3d: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <ludwin01> gnome apps are just for gnome enviroment...
[05:15] <bobo37774> kraz3d: That may be your problem then
[05:15] <almoxarife> kraz3d: i dont know how installing a gnome applet is going to solve your 'batt' issues
[05:16] <Ben64> ludwin01: thats not entirely true. gedit works fine in kde, k3b works fine in gnome
[05:16] <ludwin01> use one designed in kde.
[05:16] <almoxarife> ludwin01: not true, gnome apps work fine in kubuntu
[05:17] <kraz3d> okay, in the case.. what is another battery monitor I can use? does anyone know
[05:17] <ludwin01> kde vrs gnome epic battle
[05:17] <mangdood> kraz3d, it's likely not an issue with KDE's battery monitor
[05:17] <bobo37774> ludwin01: vs openbox
[05:17] <cfhowlett> no religious wars plz
[05:17] <bobo37774> hahaha
[05:17] <ludwin01> hahahaha
[05:17] <bazhang> bobo37774, ludwin01 not here
[05:17] <ludwin01> vrs xfce
[05:18] <klenwell> Hi. I'm back. I successfully installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my new HP g7-1310us but on reboot the dark screen issue is back. I'm looking at this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132...
[05:18] <bobo37774> okay
[05:18] <cfhowlett> kraz3d   see "screenlets" lots of monitors and can easily config for KDE
[05:18] <klenwell> Do I need to do the temp boot options then the permanent boot options?
[05:18] <mangdood> kraz3d, more like the system can't detect your battery; my laptop can't either
[05:18] <ludwin01> yeah screenlets..daemon
[05:18] <klenwell> I'm logged in now, but can't see a thing. :)
[05:19] <kraz3d> well, I know my laptop uses optimus technology and I haven't installed bumblebee yet, mangdood.. that may be it
[05:19] <mangdood> klenwell, mind telling the problem again
[05:19] <cfhowlett> kraz3d  if you're running a "replacement" battery that's NOT eom, expect detection problems
[05:19] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you figure out how to put nomodeset in the kernel to get in update and upgrade and check additional drivers for any needed.
[05:19] <cfhowlett> *oem*
[05:19] <kraz3d> cfhowlett: nope, oem battery.
[05:19] <klenwell> mangdood it's this nomodeset issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[05:20] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Is that a question?
[05:20] <mangdood> klenwell, so did you use the nomodeset option?
[05:20] <klenwell> mangdood Yes, for install. But looks like I need to set it again.
[05:21] <urfr332g0> klenwell, yes have you figured out the adding nomodeset to te kernel to boot in?
[05:21] <urfr332g0> the*
[05:22] <bascotie> Boot Repair disk takes forever to scan for systems
[05:22] <bascotie> It's been like 15 minutes lol
[05:22] <mangdood> klenwell, you'll need to boot up with nomodeset and change some of your grub files, ESPECIALLY the scripts used to generate the grub entries
[05:22] <mangdood> klenwell, you'll have to look that up though
[05:23] <urfr332g0> mangdood, not necessarily true.
[05:23] <klenwell> ufr332g0 Yes, for install. Based on the web page. Now that it's installed, I'm trying to figure out how to proceed. Do I need to follow the temp install directions on this page before the permanent? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[05:23] <urfr332g0> klenwell, YES
[05:23] <mangdood> urfr332g0, oh?
[05:23] <ludwin01> what kind of lcd gives taht trouble...?
[05:23] <ludwin01> *that*
[05:23] <urfr332g0> mangdood, it may just need a driver
[05:24] <kraz3d> See, that shitty stock battery widget did suck. 'Battery Monitor' is actually working correctly
[05:24] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Ok. So I don't have any experience fiddling with grub files. How do I get at them? Is that an option on boot up?
[05:25] <mangdood> urfr332g0, oops :D
[05:25] <mangdood> good luck everyone with their rather unfortunate tech problems :P, good night
[05:25] <urfr332g0> klenwell, it syas how on theat web page from the grub menu, do that get in update the OS and check additional drivers to see if there is one waiting.
[05:25] <urfr332g0> says*
[05:26] <ludwin01> @kraz3d   battery status ok?
[05:26] <urfr332g0> klenwell, a change at then grub menu is not permanent, I doubt you will need to change any grub kernel notations permanently.
[05:27] <kraz3d> ludwin01: Yes, thankyouj.
[05:27] <klenwell> urfr332g0 ok, thanks. Will give it a go.
[05:27] <urfr332g0> klenwell, cool your probably just missing a driver like for a nvidia graphics card.
[05:28] <ludwin01> klenwell just for curiosity..what is the brand of that laptop?
[05:29] <rectec> Hi. I tried asking this on #ubuntu-unity , but nobody's answering. So I'll ask you fine folks.
[05:29] <rectec> I'm not very clear on HUD's development. Will the code be merged with Unity? If so, does anybody know when?
[05:30] <bazhang> !hud | rectec read this yet?
[05:30] <Flannel> rectec: This is a tech support channel, you may try #ubuntu-devel
[05:31] <rectec> Flannel, yes, my bad. #ubuntu was all I could think of.
[05:31] <Flannel> rectec: no worries.
[05:31] <rectec> bazhang, thank you and ubottu, i'm trying that link
[05:32] <Jimu> the top bar in the default Unity... is that a Gnome Panel or Unity?
[05:32] <rectec> Jimu, it's part of Unity, I believe.
[05:32] <klenwell> ludwin01 HP Pavilion g7-1310us -- I'm taking notes. Plan to add a page to AskUbuntu once I've got everything sorted out.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> Jimu   unity
[05:33] <rectec> bazhang, yeah as I expected. So this will land with the release of Precise?
[05:33] <log> rectec: Yes.
[05:34] <rectec> k
[05:34] <bambanx> how i can full uninstall ruby and rvm in my ubuntu?
[05:35] <log> bambanx: sudo apt-get remove ruby rvm
[05:35] <bambanx> ubuntu say cannot find the file
[05:36] <log> bambanx: actually, it should be:
[05:36] <bambanx> the package *
[05:36] <log> bambanx: sudo apt-get remove ruby ruby-rvm
[05:37] <urfr332g0> klenwell, I believe this is the card you have and a ask ubuntu link, bumblebee as you suggested may be part of what you need. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95459/ati-6470m-intel-hd-graphics-3000-drivers
[05:37] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I'm coming from 8.10 so this new layout is a little foreign to me. I hit the system settings icon and clicked Additional Drivers but it didn't come up with anything related to graphics. Am I doing this right?
[05:37] <bambanx> log, when i type now ruby -v its continue showing me the version
[05:37] <bambanx> :/
[05:37] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Ignore last question, just saw this.
[05:37] <urfr332g0> klenwell, check if your card is the one listed in the ask ubuntu.
[05:37] <log> bambanx: Odd.
[05:37] <urfr332g0> cool
[05:38] <bambanx> log i do the same using purge but dont work
[05:38] <ludwin01> hp pavilion? g series came with intel hd graphics...not sure if need extra drivers...
[05:38] <ludwin01> @bambanx check with synaptic too
[05:39] <bambanx> ludwin01, i dont where the hell is synaptic in my buntu 11.10
[05:39] <bambanx> i am installing synaptic now
[05:39] <urfr332g0> klenwell, this command may identify the graphics not sure with a hybrid. lspci | grep VGA
[05:39] <bambanx> what u think about 11.10 version guys?
[05:40] <bambanx> looks like a mac clone
[05:40] <log> !ot | bambanx
[05:40] <urfr332g0> bambanx, you need support we don't do poles
[05:40] <bambanx> ?
[05:40] <rectec> uh one last question about HUD. I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel
[05:40] <bambanx> ok
[05:40] <bambanx> sorry
[05:41] <kroonrs> hi - my icons for a number of launchers as well as when I alt-tab have disappeared since I resumed from suspend.  There are also icons missing when I alt-tab, and my terminal text is all-faded (terminal is one of the icons missing, along with "show desktop" on alt-tab, and "System settings" and "Home folder" on the launcher).  Oneiric with Unity.
[05:41] <ludwin01> @bambanx well... systems settings
[05:41] <skegeek> Is it safe to upgrade directly from Lucid Lynx to Precise Pangolin?
[05:41] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I think that's the card. Let me try that command you suggested.
[05:41] <kroonrs> to clarify: there is still space allocated for the icons, they are just not displaying...
[05:42] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, you try logging out and back in yet?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> skegeek   LTS to LTS should be safe but clean install is better
[05:44] <arunkumar413> ubuntu sucks. If I extract a rar file i cant find the files in the extracted folder
[05:44] <klenwell> urfr332g0 lspci says VGA compatible controller: Interl Corporation, etc. HP site says "BrightView LED-backlit display with the Intel HD 3000 graphics" So sounds like same.
[05:44] <urfr332g0> klenwell, cool that is about my limit of knowledge lol point at look here. :)
[05:44] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: No, that would kind of defeat the whole point of suspending and resuming vs shutting down.  But I guess it would help to find out if this is permanent *sigh*
[05:45] <Ben64> arunkumar413: if you have a question go ahead and ask it, this is not a channel for rants
[05:45] <ludwin01> @bambanx just do a recon in unity interface you might found synaptic..check installed pkgs and dependencies attached to that program bugging u
[05:45] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, yes but a actual cause and effect is helpful.
[05:46] <bambanx> thanks ludwin01
[05:46] <bambanx> i fixed
[05:46] <CIDR> Can I use a SAS drive on a sata controller?
[05:46] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413... use unrar pkg nonfree version the file manager will do the task automatic man
[05:46] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Someone writes on AskUbuntu: "only solution that i found was to disable the intel card on bios to use the ATI on ubuntu" Any advice on whether I should do that or just follow the directions for perm modifying kernel boot options?
[05:47] <ludwin01> @klenwel dont mix drivers...
[05:47] <urfr332g0> klenwell, there is a link as well personally I don't know, you might check the ubuntu forums maybe start a thread there as well.
[05:48] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: its already installed.
[05:48] <MaineCoon_> Folks can someone receive an SMS message for me plz rq? I dont have a mobile but need to receive a registration code
[05:48] <ludwin01> @klenwell cant disable the only one vga card on bios   who wrote that?
[05:48] <klenwell> ludwin01 So go the grub route then?
[05:48] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: but its free version
[05:49] <klenwell> ludwin01 It's on AskUbuntu. Got a couple votes. :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/95459/ati-6470m-intel-hd-graphics-3000-drivers
[05:50] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: how to install the non-free version. its not showing in the synaptic
[05:50] <Karmaon> Is it possible to make the Desktop scroll up/down through your mouse-scroll to increase your workspace?
[05:50] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413 use the nonfree version....nonfree just by name it will come with no cost..come on! its not itunes store man
[05:50] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, are you familiar with this computer and hybrid graphics?
[05:50] <`Korvin> hey, I'm trying to run a file, in the same way I'd run it on my webserver
[05:50] <`Korvin> it's saying 'Permission denied'
[05:50] <`Korvin> and with sudo, saying 'command not found'
[05:51] <ludwin01> @karmaon workspace or monitor resolution?
[05:51] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: only free version is there in the synaptic
[05:51] <Ben64> !details | `Korvin
[05:51] <Karmaon> ludwin01: workspace
[05:51] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: Another symptom is that my unity bar at the top seems to have been replaced with a different bar with different icons.  With the new bar, the gear icon is missing, so I can't log out - any suggestions
[05:51] <ludwin01> @arunkumar use the software center
[05:51] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, you running unity?
[05:51] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: yes
[05:52] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, have you tweaked compiz as well?
[05:52] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: no
[05:52] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, are you sure your on the same desktop?
[05:52] <`Korvin> I'm running kubuntu, trying to run a shell file by using the path, it's giving me Permission denied without sudo, and command not found with sudo, it should be executing appropriately
[05:52] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: yes - my other apps are open here
[05:52] <`Korvin> I've just installed kubuntu newest version
[05:53] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: not available in software centre
[05:53] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, apps run on multiple desktops did you install gnome 3 or another desktop?
[05:53] <klenwell> ludwin01 or urfr332g0: what's the downside to just adding nomodeset to grub file?
[05:53] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: haven't installed any gnome
[05:53] <Ben64> `Korvin: are you typing it right? what does it do? does it actually need sudo? does it have execute permissions?
[05:53] <ludwin01> @karmaon  monitor shows u blank space?
[05:53] <urfr332g0> klenwell, have not had to do it so not sure.
[05:54] <`Korvin> no Ben, it's a php file with an appropriate shebang, I'm typing it correctly, php cli is installed
[05:54] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you will be able to boot in for now, may limit the resolution.
[05:55] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: I found log out on the dash home, and when I logged back in, everything is back to normal (including the unity bar at the top, and the missing icons are restored)
[05:55] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: I'll ask again if the problem recurs, but thanks!
[05:55] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Seems to be running fine right now. So I guess I should edit grub then just wait and hope maybe a driver shows up in 12.04?
[05:55] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: there is no such thing as unrar non-free in software centre
[05:56] <`Korvin> I had this same issue trying to run sublime-text-2 while others online said it worked fine. I dismissed it, and installed from a apt with a repo I found online
[05:56] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you might try the ubuntu forums as well, over 60,000 regular users.
[05:56] <ludwin01> @klenwell in my opinion is a bad idea to mess with grubfile
[05:57] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413 add the nonfree repositories
[05:57] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, your just not being accurate man the nomodeset in the kernel is a common procedure
[05:57] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: how
[05:57] <bambanx> guys exist any way for see my minimized windows on unity?
[05:58] <`Korvin> Ben64, I'm for sure typing it correctly
[05:58] <urfr332g0> bambanx, not in the left panel?
[05:58] <Ben64> `Korvin: well you're missing something
[05:58] <ludwin01> @urfr332g0  ok my bad
[05:58] <`Korvin> I figured that much =p
[05:59] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, cool.
[05:59] <`Korvin> Ben64, looks like this is the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1775076
[06:00] <Ben64> `Korvin: unlikely
[06:00] <`Korvin> It's the same description
[06:01] <`Korvin> Ben64, looks like it's due to the fact that I've got it located in a shared ntfs partition
[06:02] <Ben64> that would have been quite important to say previously
[06:02] <cfhowlett> ><
[06:02] <klenwell> urfr332g0, ludwin01: Well, I updated grub but didn't run sudo-update grub command, so I still get the dark screen on boot. How do I get to the grub menu? Should I hold down shift? I got it once but can't seem to get it now.
[06:03] <urfr332g0> klenwell, if you put nomodeset in the kernel in the OS you have to run update grub... The permanent fix in that link
[06:04] <urfr332g0> klenwell, yeah shift
[06:04] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I know. I missed that last part. But now I can't get the grub menu? I've rebooted my machine like 6 times now. Should I hold it, press it at a particular point? Trying again...
[06:05] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Holding it worked. :D
[06:05] <ludwin01> @urf332g0 lets try another way
[06:05] <urfr332g0> klenwell, hold down right after hitting the power on
[06:06] <urfr332g0> cool klenwell
[06:06] <ludwin01> @klenwell the 10.04 version lts its supposed to not give that kind of trouble...
[06:08] <ludwin01> @urfr332g0 cool to help klenwell
[06:09] <dr--willis> use of @ on irc is not needed... :-)
[06:10] <dr--willis> !tab
[06:10] <Stanley00> hi, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and now pidgin wont show up in message indicator. How can I get it back?
[06:12] <klenwell> urfr332g0 ludwin01 ok. I updated grub and rebooted and screen's ok. If resolution's off, I can't tell. :) So I'm going to stick with this for now and hope a driver shows up in the future. I'll add a little writeup to AskUbuntu tomorrow on getting setup on this brand of laptop and maybe add a question on the forum. Thanks again for all your help.
[06:12] <urfr332g0> klenwell, resolution is on check display for resolutions
[06:13] <urfr332g0> no problem
[06:13] <ludwin01> @klenwell no hay problema
[06:14] <klenwell> urfr332g0 When I click displays it says Unknown. Resoluton is set to 1600x900 but it's grayed out.
[06:15] <urfr332g0> klenwell, it probably just has one default now with the nomodeset in the kernel, justa guess really.
[06:16] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Eveything is grayed out in Displays dialogue. :( But looks ok to me. As long as it works... :)
[06:16] <urfr332g0> yeah
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> HI
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> -Invalid-entry-length-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> getting this error
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> How to solve it
[06:18] <Sach> Is there an ubuntu equivalent of 'Wow Slider'?  It is a jQuery image slider for websites
[06:20] <danieldeusing> hey, can someone tell me sth about tcpdump and the length output ?
[06:22] <machiolate> anyone have any reccomendations for web design programs for ubuntu?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> machiolate   kompozer
[06:23] <machiolate> ok thanks
[06:23] <cfhowlett> machiolate   bluefish editor
[06:26] <danieldeusing> well, okay ill ask different: using tcpdump i get an output of my packets including a length information. sometimes this information is equals 0 that means that the packet has no data. knowing that the minimum packet size is 64Byte, this means that the packet has 64Bytes. Sometimes I have others length values like 95 ... my question is, if the 95Bytes are the total packet length or the user data length
[06:27] <Sach> Is there an ubuntu equivalent of 'Wow Slider'?  It is a jQuery image slider for websites?
[06:28] <machiolate> haha cfhowlett ended up getting bluefish, thanks
[06:30] <hydrox24> Sach: jQuery should be fully ubuntu compatible, so I am not sure I am with you?
[06:31] <bazhang> Sach, not seen one, no. the original seems to be only for windows and Mac
[06:31] <Sach> hydrox24, the downloadable file is .exe, which doesn't run wih Wine.
[06:31] <Ben64> should be able to do it all manually
[06:31] <hydrox24> Sach: I see, do they provide a program for creating a slider?
[06:32] <Ben64> make an example on windows, look at the code it generates, and simulate it yourself
[06:32] <Sach> hydrox24:  yes, but only for windows and mac
[06:32] <hydrox24> Ben64: I is likely to be very messy/compressed code if it is generated by a program
[06:32] <hydrox24> Sach: OK, looking into it now
[06:33] <`Korvin> how can I run a command from terminal and keep using the same terminal while the process lives
[06:33] <Ben64> `Korvin: put & at the end of the command
[06:33] <cfhowlett> `Korvin   create  a new tab in the termianl
[06:33] <`Korvin> thanks Ben64
[06:34] <hydrox24> Sach: Yeh, sorry, looks like doing it in windows (or even learning jQuery) would be the way to go.
[06:34] <hydrox24> `Korvin: A good shortcut for that is Crtl+Shift+t
[06:35] <Sach> hydrox24, thanks.   pity that there's nothing on ubuntu for this :(
[06:35] <Stanley00> hi, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and now pidgin wont show up in message indicator, and every time I close pidgin, it's quit instead of minimize to panel. How can I get it back?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   start it in the terminal...
[06:37] <cfhowlett> then pin it
[06:38] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: you mean "Keep in launcher"?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   sorry, I THINK so.  I'm on 10.04 and will soon go to XFCE with Ubuntu Studio 12.04 so my unity knowledge is most limited.
[06:39] <dr--willis> descriptive term :-)
[06:39] <cfhowlett> ><)
[06:39] <tyler> can anyone help me with this problem? http://oi41.tinypic.com/2r61f75.jpg
[06:40] <tyler> trying to remove docky icon from dock.
[06:40] <cfhowlett> tyler   sudo apt-get purge docky
[06:40] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: yes, but that's not what I want. I want it minimize to the top panel.
[06:40] <dr--willis> docky icon from the docky dock?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   as I said, I don't use unity enough to be able to help much
[06:40] <somsip> tyler: last time I tried to do that, it wasn't possible. Have you checked in docky forums?
[06:41] <tyler> cfhowlett: is that a different version of docky?
[06:41] <tyler> somsip: no i haven't.
[06:41] <cfhowlett> tyler   that command kills docky and purges it from your system - which I thought is what you wanted...
[06:41] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: ah, thanks for trying to help.
[06:41] <somsip> tyler: I wanted to tidy it up when I was using it, but found that the docky icon was not removable. Is that what you mean? Maybe 9 mnths ago so could've changed since then
[06:42] <tyler> somsip: yes, i want to remove the docky icon from the docky dock.
[06:43] <somsip> tyler: look slike it might have changed but could depend on your version: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/remove-anchor-icon-from-docky/
[06:44] <tyler> dr--willis: on the dock called "docky" there is the icon of app, on the dock, that you used to be able to remove.
[06:44] <dr--willis> not used docky in ages here..
[06:45] <dr--willis> gnome-do was part of docky split off? been that long ago..
[06:46] <bobbyd> hi, what's the name of the tool that builds dpkg's from running "make install" ?
[06:46] <bobbyd> I can't remember the name of it for the life of me
[06:46] <dr--willis> !checkinstall
[06:46] <bobbyd> perfect :)
[06:46] <bobbyd> thanks
[06:47] <bobbyd> I can never connect the name of it with what it actually does
[06:47] <dr--willis> never really used it.
[06:49] <osse> how can I list the contents of an uninstalled package in the terminal?
[06:52] <bambanx> anyone know a ftp program with gui not cli for manage remote folders like local ?
[06:53] <mansoor-s> bambanx: like Filezilla?
[06:53] <bambanx> in filezilla can i set a remote folder like local?
[06:53] <tjadc> Hello
[06:54] <Stanley00> tjadc: hi
[06:54] <cfhowlett> tjadc   greetings
[06:55] <tjadc> I have an Asus(N61J) with a NVidia(GT325M) graphics card, which I am having trouble getting working
[06:55] <tjadc> I have tried installing  bumblebee with no luck
[06:56] <tjadc> When I install the nvidia-current driver and do a X configuration with it, the configuration is incorrect or fails
[06:56] <tjadc> I am running Ubuntu 12.04
[06:56] <tjadc> I was running 10.04 but had similar/same issues
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !precise|tjadc
[06:57] <dr--willis> osse:  the apt-file command i think can do that
[06:57] <tjadc> cfhowlett: great, but 'Precise' didn't solve my problems :(
[06:58] <tjadc> I would have thought that this laptop and its hardware are old enough on the market for Ubuntu to have made the necessary developments to support my laptop's hardware
[06:58] <cfhowlett> tjadc   12.04 isn't supported on this channel yet.  #ubuntu+1 might be able to help you out though.
[06:58] <dr--willis> those dual gpu things are a work in progress.  :(
[06:58] <tjadc> Well that is fine ..
[06:58] <tjadc> Ubuntu 12.04 isn't the problem I believe
[06:58] <tjadc> as mentioned before, I was running 10.04
[06:59] <cfhowlett> tjadc   sorry but it DOES release in only 3 months!
[06:59] <tjadc> That's great to hear, but Ubuntu isn't my problem
[06:59] <tjadc> my problem is getting the graphics to run
[07:00] <cfhowlett> tjadc   fiair enough
[07:00] <cfhowlett> tjadc   *fair* enough
[07:00] <dr--willis> check the 12.* bug reports is all we can really suggest
[07:00] <tjadc> I have done immense googling about this issue, since 10.04
[07:01] <tjadc> I haven't had any luck installing ANY nvidia graphics cards, this is my second laptop with an Nvidia Gfx card
[07:01] <tjadc> ATI is a breeze
[07:01] <dr--willis> ive had few issues with nvidia.
[07:01] <dr--willis> none of those dual gpus however
[07:02] <dr--willis> n
[07:02] <rbrooks> anyone running 'precise' ? what is 'alternative"?  kde?
[07:02] <dr--willis> my one ati is a pain
[07:02] <tjadc> dr--willis: hmm, well maybe that is the issue .. This is a dual gpu
[07:02] <crizzy> rbrooks: #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <dr--willis> tjadc:  exactly.... dual gpu is a work in progress area
[07:03] <tjadc> rbrooks: ?
[07:03] <dr--willis> alt cd is a different installer
[07:03] <rbrooks> the newest i can find is 'precise' anyone running that?  also what does ''alternative'' mean KDE?
[07:03] <rbrooks> ahh
[07:03] <tjadc> dr--willis: So I am unable to use my gfx card at all :?
[07:04] <tjadc> I mean, that would be quite rediculous ..
[07:05] <rbrooks> tjadc, we are lucky to be using any hw at all, please check hardware compatibility lists before trying to install any Linux
[07:05] <rbrooks> my go5200 isnt supported in any Linux either
[07:06] <crizzy> well, i just bought a new laptop some weeks ago... before that, i checked from ubuntu.com that it's certified >:-)
[07:06] <dr--willis> tjadc:  its a cutting edge area.
[07:06] <crizzy> no need to worry if stuff works or not then...
[07:07] <macmartine> Any ISPConfig users know about this? http://serverfault.com/questions/361102/how-to-have-separate-server-configs-for-port-80-and-443-with-ispconfig
[07:07] <dr--willis> if those gpu things were more standarized they 2ould work better i imagine
[07:08] <dr--willis> bbl
[07:09] <rbrooks> crizzy, good to hear, it used to be rare for Linux to work on a laptop because of hw not supported
[07:10] <rbrooks> is anyone running precise or is that like something to stay away from is systemd in it?
[07:10] <rbrooks> ack i googole
[07:15] <Sach> I've downloaded a .deb package for slcreator.  However, when I try to open it with GDebi Package Installer, I get: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gambas-runtime (>= 1.0.0)"
[07:24] <bobo37773> Sach: are you still there?
[07:24] <Sach> bobo37773  yes, i'm here
[07:25] <bobo37773> okay so you downloaded a deb file for what version of ubuntu?
[07:25] <Sach> bobo37773  for 11.04
[07:27] <bobo37773> is that your distro
[07:28] <bobo37773> Sach: I mean same version
[07:29] <Sach> bobo37773  i dont get what you mean :s
[07:29] <bobo37773> Sach: gambas-runtime is the name of an application
[07:29] <bobo37773> Sach: probably for an older version of ubuntu
[07:29] <terminhell> or build from source...
[07:29] <terminhell> if the source is available
[07:29] <bobo37773> exactly
[07:30] <Sach> bobo37773  so do you have any ideas as to how i can get slcreator to run on 11.04?
[07:30] <terminhell> i dont like how building from source has become a thing of the past
[07:31] <bobo37773> Sach: yeah find gambas-runtime and build it
[07:31] <bambanx> what good wysiwyg editor for html with ftp we have for linux  guys? kompozer fail me to connect ftp
[07:32] <mlc> bambanx: bluefish
[07:33] <bambanx> mlc,  i wanna wysiwyg
[07:33] <mlc> bambanx: mom. sorry ^^
[07:33] <benmctee_> Sach: gambas-runtime can be found in Synaptic Package Manager if you do not want to build it
[07:33] <diverdude> how many ports are actually available in a computer and in a router?
[07:34] <Sach> benmctee  thanks, i've installed gambas-runtime2, rebooted, but i still get the same error when trying to install my .deb package.
[07:34] <Ben64> diverdude: 65536
[07:36] <mlc> bambanx: look nice: BlueGriffon, http://bluegriffon.org
[07:37] <bambanx> thx mlc
[07:37] <fling> how to export history from Skype?
[07:37] <lion> hello everyone
[07:37] <arunkumar413> how to extract a password protected rar file
[07:38] <randomuser> arunkumar413, enter password
[07:38] <arunkumar413> randomuser: don't have password
[07:39] <randomuser> arunkumar413, ask user that created archive for password
[07:40] <arunkumar413> randomuser: if i can do that why would i come here.
[07:40] <lion> using hydra to crack home network computer password
[07:41] <LachlanH> Hey guys. Desperately need help with screen res issue. Recently put a KVM between PC and Monitor. OS now can't determine resolutions for screen. Using NVidia drivers, will not allow my resolution above 1024x768. Generic default driver will allow a new mode to be added, but performance is terrible. Doing the same thing with 10.04 instead (I'm using 11.10) works correctly with the generic driver with good performance. Help?
[07:45] <terminhell> LachlanH: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KVM   this may help a bit
[07:45] <arunkumar413> how to extract a password protected rar file without password
[07:45] <fling> how to export history from Skype?
[07:45] <randomuser> arunkumar413, i assume you come here because you have a problem with your ubuntu installation
[07:47] <bambanx> mlc, thanks bro
[07:48] <Skittlezjunkie> eveening
[07:49] <Skittlezjunkie> anyone up for chatting im bored out of my mind
[07:50] <randomuser> Skittlezjunkie, try #defocus
[07:50] <marvin_> woops 12298 fuser processes
[07:59] <kode0> Mac OS X Mountain Lion is going to be released in Summer.
[07:59] <kode0> Will Ubuntu be able to compete with the latest OSX?
[08:01] <hydrox24> kode0: Yes, but please go to the ubuntu-offtopic channel to discuss that. Thanks!
[08:02] <nix_> t
[08:04] <LachlanH> Anyone know why scrolling and window dragging is laggy? It's still smooth, it just kinda... lags behind the mouse. It's weird. Like if I grab a window and drag it around fast, it will keep following the arc of the mouse for about 500ms after i've stopped moving the mouse. Like it takes an extra 500ms to complete the path I took with the mouse.
[08:05] <hydrox24> LachlanH: We may be able to help, but we need to tell us what version of ubuntu you are using.
[08:06] <LachlanH> hydrox24: 11.10
[08:06] <LachlanH> 64-bit
[08:07] <LachlanH> Weirdly, I don't get the same issue on 10.04 with the exact same hardware and configuration.
[08:09] <beasty> morning guys
[08:10] <hydrox24> beasty: Hi
[08:10] <beasty> hydrox24: hi
[08:10] <hydrox24> beasty: what's your issue?
[08:11] <beasty> i have issues installing ubuntu 11.10 on my new pc
[08:11] <hydrox24> oh, just saw you messages on offtopic
[08:11] <celu> HELLO
[08:11] <hydrox24> ok, continue.
[08:11] <beasty> well it install all well no errors
[08:11] <beasty> but then when i get to grub after reboot
[08:11] <hydrox24> beasty: can you give details on error messages or HW?
[08:11] <celu> My linux is not support actualizacion
[08:11] <auronandace> LachlanH: 10.04 uses metacity as window manager, 11.10 uses compiz
[08:12] <beasty> i select the ubuntu and i get a blackscreen with a cursor
[08:12] <hydrox24> celu: You can try ubuntu-EN replacing EN with your language code for non-english speaking helpers :)
[08:12] <beasty> hydrox24: hw: core i7, 16gb ram, 128gb ssd & gforce 560gtx
[08:13] <hydrox24> beasty: I see, and it simply stays at that screen indefinetely?
[08:13] <beasty> hydrox24: yes
[08:13] <urfr332g0> beasty, you know the graphic chip/card?
[08:13] <beasty> hydrox24: and i used the alternative installer
[08:13] <hydrox24> beasty: can you try hitting the ctrl-alt-f1 combo and telling us if that gives you a shell?
[08:14] <beasty> hydrox24: tried that last night
[08:15] <beasty> but failed
[08:15] <beasty> all the screens looked the same
[08:15] <urfr332g0> beasty, you try nomodeset in the kernel line at the grub menu?
[08:16] <beasty> urfr332g0: i'll try that later today
[08:16] <beasty> i'm currently at work
[08:16] <beasty> just came here to get some pointers
[08:17] <niklasfi> beasty: i dont really know, but could this be a two-graphics-card related issue? imo some i7s have integrated graphics chips
[08:18] <beasty> niklasfi: mm i did notice that it has a hdmi exit
[08:18] <beasty> maybe i can disable that one
[08:18] <beasty> good point
[08:19] <niklasfi> beasty: on our last linux install party we had many dual-graphics related issues. most of them were solved by booting back into windows and en-/disabling the onboard graphics card with a keyboard shortcut (we mostly install on laptops)
[08:20] <niklasfi> beasty: should be able to do it using your bios/uefi though
[08:20] <beasty> indeed
[08:20] <beasty> i'll think about that
[08:20] <beasty> thanks
[08:20] <beasty> now just one more questnio
[08:20] <beasty> s/nio/ion/
[08:21] <beasty> i have a 128gb ssd on sda1
[08:21] <hydrox24> yeh?
[08:21] <hydrox24> yup
[08:21] <beasty> but also a 128gb on sdb
[08:21] <beasty> can i mirror sda to sdb ?
[08:23] <NixGeek> beasty: are you talking about a mirror type raid?
[08:23] <niklasfi> beasty: what do you mean by mirror? RAID? exact image copy at some point in time? copying all files from one platter to the other at regular intervals or user triggered?
[08:23] <NixGeek> or do you want to perform a backup
[08:23] <beasty> just want to have sda synced with sdb
[08:24] <terminhell> sounds like a xorg issue
[08:24] <beasty> for if for instance sda crashes i can just put in sdb
[08:24] <beasty> and resume normal operation
[08:24] <terminhell> with the video stuff
[08:25] <dRounse> what is mysql?
[08:25] <terminhell> !mysql
[08:25] <niklasfi> beasty: what you are talking about sounds like using RAID1, but i suggest you do propper backups.
[08:25] <randOmize> Hi there!   Every time I start up Ubuntu says something like , "The disk drive for /windows is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery".  Then the disks show up in the file system.
[08:25] <randOmize> I think the fstab looks alright
[08:26] <dRounse> i just dont understand what a mysql server does
[08:26] <terminhell> its for databases
[08:26] <slobro> dRounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL
[08:26] <urfr332g0> randOmize, check the uuid and fsteb?
[08:26] <urfr332g0> fstab*
[08:26] <dRounse> ive looked it up, i just dont get what are the databases for
[08:27] <beasty> niklasfi: yes i have 2 backup location for that + i put all my projects in a .git
[08:27] <slobro> store data
[08:27] <slobro> from whatever
[08:27] <terminhell> organizing data
[08:27] <slobro> for whatever
[08:27] <NixGeek> beasty: if you do raid1 and sda goes down, you might have problems booting from sdb if you just replaced sda with it (since it will now see nothing for sdb)... you might be able to use a usb stick or cd to boot from, using mdstat to remove to unused drive
[08:27] <dvhh> dRounse : why are you interested ?
[08:27] <beasty> NixGeek: ok
[08:27] <urfr332g0> randOmize, your swap may not be right look to see if it is mounted
[08:28] <beasty> NixGeek: i'll look if i can setup raid on my motherboard
[08:28] <randOmize> urfr332g0  i dont see the swap mounted in the file system
[08:28] <dRounse> dvhh: im not really interested in making one, i was setting up a home/file server running ubuntu server and it said do you want to make a lamp so i looked that up and saw mysql
[08:28] <beasty> btw should i install regular or with lvm ?
[08:28] <randOmize> also, I dont know what you mean by check the uuid
[08:28] <randOmize> sorry
[08:28] <dvhh> beasty : setting it up after would erase the drives
[08:28] <Fudge> anyone running ubuntu server 11.04 and up, wondering if dpkg -l | grep speakup returns results
[08:28] <urfr332g0> randOmize, run sudo blkid and check the swap uuid against the fstab
[08:28] <beasty> dvhh: it's a freshly installed system
[08:28] <beasty> np
[08:29] <NixGeek> beasty: hardware raid from the mobo is the way to go because then you could remove the bad drive (ie sda) from the equation before boot time.  That being said, I like niklasfi's suggestion of proper backup.  Just replace drive with known good one and restore data
[08:29] <niklasfi> on that mysql related issue. i would like to use phpymadmin is there a way to get it without installing apache et all? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/405597/
[08:29] <dvhh> dRounse : if you don't know you don't need it :)
[08:29] <urfr332g0> randOmize, run that command it is a set od letterand numbers identifying the partition it is in the fstab
[08:29] <dRounse> my server didnt work for some reason after installing, it wont boot, but that brings me to another question, if freenas 8 supports ssh what makes it different than an ubuntu server
[08:30] <Braden`> Hello
[08:30] <urfr332g0> !uuid | randOmize
[08:30] <dvhh> dRounse : samba or sftp
[08:30] <dRounse> dvhh: i know i didnt use that
[08:30] <Braden`> Does anyone know of a good web control panel for Ubuntu?
[08:30] <niklasfi> NixGeek: i heard a lot of bad things about mobo raid controllers
[08:30] <NixGeek> Braden` : webmin
[08:30] <beasty> soo ... should i got with regular or lvm ? :)
[08:30] <NixGeek> niklasfi: I've not used one, I'm software RAID on my buntu server
[08:31] <dRounse> dont use webmin for ubuntu
[08:31] <NixGeek> a full hardware controller is definitely the way to go... just $$$
[08:31] <arunkumar413> how to extract rar files without password
[08:31] <dRounse> it doesnt work anymore, well thats what i heard
[08:31] <farrukhjon> hi all! I need advice for building custom optimized kernel for HP Probook machine, may be anyone have experience of
[08:31] <randOmize> urfr332g0  These dont seem to be the same
[08:31] <beasty> NixGeek: €€€ is no issue
[08:31] <NixGeek> dRounse: I'm using it now
[08:32] <dRounse> arunkumar413:  you can try to crack it
[08:32] <dRounse> NixGeek: what version of ubuntu
[08:32] <dedoera> what do i need to start programming?
[08:32] <urfr332g0> randOmize, paste the one from the sudo blkid into the fstab so the match, replace the one there,.
[08:32] <niklasfi> beasty: then go hardware raid with a pcie card
[08:32] <dedoera> anything?
[08:32] <NixGeek> 11.10
[08:32] <arunkumar413> dRounse: how to crack
[08:32] <Braden`> Are there any that have a package that can be obtained from apt?
[08:32] <urfr332g0> they*
[08:32] <Braden`> webmin doesn't have an apt package
[08:32] <terminhell> dRounse: have you tried john the ripper
[08:32] <niklasfi> dedoera: what do you want to program? are you looking for a way into programming as a whole?
[08:32] <dRounse> NixGeek: oh someone told me that it didnt work, sorry
[08:32] <randOmize> urfr332g0  it looks like theyre all wrong...
[08:32] <beasty> but thanks guys
[08:33] <dRounse> terminhell: not personally,
[08:33] <NixGeek> beasty: good luck
[08:33] <beasty> i'll come back to you tonight if i still have troubles
[08:33] <dedoera> niklasfi
[08:33] <beasty> :)
[08:33] <urfr332g0> randOmize, make sure your correct your computer boots with that info.
[08:33] <dedoera> oops, yes, just looking at getting into it
[08:33] <terminhell> dRounse: it may do what you need. your going to have to decypher the password one way or another
[08:33] <dRounse> will freenas 8 with ssh allow me to access my files anywhere?
[08:33] <urfr332g0> !fstab | randOmize
[08:34] <dRounse> terminhell, that wasnt me that was arunkumar413 who needed it
[08:34] <dvhh> dRounse : if you map the port on your router
[08:34] <urfr332g0> !pm | Random832
[08:34] <urfr332g0> randOmize, I don't do pm's
[08:34] <randOmize> ok thats fine
[08:34] <terminhell> dRounse: oops
[08:34] <dRounse> dvhh: is that difficult? sorry im kinda a noob
[08:34] <Braden`> Does webmin require I install webmin specific modules like apache, or can I use my ubuntu apache install with it?
[08:34] <niklasfi> dedoera: then i would suggest you learn python. it as a not-so-steep learning curve and you can do nearly everthing very easily. for learning python all you need is some patience and a good tutorial
[08:35] <dRounse> terminhell i was going to tell him to try that but you beat me to it
[08:35] <randOmize> so i did sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:35] <LachlanH> Hey guys. How can I run a script every time I log into the desktop?
[08:35] <arunkumar413> dRounse: i don't have the password. I downloaded a movie compressed in rar format
[08:35] <dvhh> dRounse: your router should have a web interface to configure that
[08:35] <dedoera> where do i do the programming?
[08:35] <randOmize> urfr332g0 and that isnt the same uuid as the command you send me said
[08:35] <dRounse> arunkumar413 then its fake, sorry for that, when you get a rar file like that there is no movie in it, trust me
[08:35] <randOmize> so I should change it so they all match the results of the command you sent me?
[08:35] <niklasfi> dedoera: in any text editor you like. you can use gedit for example, which comes pre-installed
[08:36] <dedoera> excellent
[08:36] <dRounse> dvhh, i know that, but do i just pick sftp then the port and enable it?
[08:36] <dedoera> and you can just 'run' a txt file and its a program?
[08:36] <niklasfi> dedoera: basically. yes
[08:36] <urfr332g0> randOmize, the ones in the blkid command are correct, you just want to make sure you know which uuiod is for which partition shown in fstab.
[08:36] <arunkumar413> dRounse: i opened the rar and can see the movie file in it
[08:36] <urfr332g0> uuid*
[08:36] <randOmize> yea theyre labeled
[08:36] <dvhh> dRounse : yes should work
[08:37] <randOmize> thanks for your help!
[08:37] <randOmize> I am so loving all of you folks of ubuntu irc.  You make ubuntu amazing.  Thanks!!!!
[08:37] <arunkumar413> dRounse: problem is i'm unable to extract the rar without the password
[08:37] <niklasfi> dedoera: its been quite some time since i started programming, and python was not my first language, but i think http://www.diveintopython.net/toc/index.html could give you a good start
[08:37] <dRounse> arunkumar413 yea but its not really a movie, theyll tell you to go to a website and sign up for all kinds of crap before you get the password, ttrust me, i know you got a torrent
[08:37] <urfr332g0> randOmize, cool you can also remove the uuid and just put /dev/sda?  the question mark would be the partition number
[08:37] <dedoera> ill take a look, thanks
[08:38] <dvhh> dRounse : I got a nas that I can access from anywhere
[08:38] <dRounse> dvhh, ok thank you what port should i use?
[08:38] <arunkumar413> dRounse: yeah, there is also a doc with instructions to signup to get the password
[08:39] <dvhh> dRounse : 22 is the standard one, depending on how you trust the strength of your password, but it is advised to use a non standard one
[08:39] <dRounse> arunkumar413: its basically impossible to open it or even get the password, trust me ive tried several times
[08:39] <arunkumar413> dRounse: ok
[08:40] <arunkumar413> dRounse: abandoning my effort. Thanks
[08:40] <dRounse> dvhh: well how would someone get into it? like id know how to access it, but do people try to hack into peoples hom seervers
[08:40] <dvhh> dRounse : another issue is also the external ip address or hostname
[08:40] <dvhh> dRounse : you would be surprised
[08:40] <dRounse> arunkumar413: when you download movies from torrents look to see if its a rar, if it is dont download
[08:41] <dRounse> dvhh: how do i set up an external ip address
[08:41] <arunkumar413> dRounse: yeah sure. thanks for the info
[08:41] <dvhh> dRounse : you cannot set it up, your ISP choose it for you
[08:41] <dRounse> dvhh, wait just one question first, is freenas 8 with ssh any different than ubuntu server
[08:42] <dvhh> dRounse : can be an automated one or a static one
[08:42] <Engin> my ubuntu server is visible on the windows network with its host name... but that is not in the smb.conf, how the hell does this thing work ? (and i cannot browse my shares)
[08:42] <dvhh> dRounse : freenas is stable enough, I haven't tried ubuntu server
[08:43] <dRounse> dvhh so as far as playing my movies on another computer it will work?
[08:44] <orated> What is the term to fix a package so that it is not update/upgraded etc ?
[08:44] <mint> which method will fill up the usb drive in LESS time?: live with persistent save or full install to usb?
[08:44] <orated> I forgot the term
[08:45] <dvhh> dRounse : yes
[08:45] <dRounse> dvhh: ok thanks for the help
[08:45] <urfr332g0> mint, persistent can't be cleaned and can't get kernel upgrade.
[08:46] <urfr332g0> orated, you can pin in synaptic if you have it.
[08:46] <mint> so im better to install straight to usb if i dont want to fill up the drive?
[08:46] <orated> urfr332g0: Pinning! Thanks
[08:46] <dvhh> dRounse : np
[08:47] <urfr332g0> mint, yes basically, is it a thumb or HD?
[08:47] <urfr332g0> flash or disc
[08:47] <mint> flash drive
[08:48] <urfr332g0> mint, will run a little slower then a install to a external disc, maybe more hard to say.
[08:48] <urfr332g0> internal*
[08:48] <mint> i was hoping that a full install would help with not filling up the drive so fast
[08:48] <mint> i want to use a 2gb stick for as long as possible
[08:49] <mint> with this persistent save i just did, i have already fillied up the drive on the first boot
[08:49] <urfr332g0> mint, full install can be kept at install size with cleaning the cache etc
[08:49] <mint> then that is clearly the way to go
[08:49] <urfr332g0> mint, 2 gigs is to small for a standard install.
[08:50] <urfr332g0> mint, you would need\
[08:50] <mint> 8?
[08:50] <urfr332g0> mint, ubuntu wants a 4.2 size space to install in standard install even though tye install is about 3 gigs
[08:51] <urfr332g0> the*
[08:51] <mint> i see
[08:51] <Braden`> Is there a way to force install ubuntu even if you don't have 4.5 gigs?
[08:51] <Braden`> I am not going to be installing xwindows, gnome, or anything like that
[08:52] <Seryth> Hey all, I'm having real trouble with pulseaudio. It was working fine a couple of days ago, and now it's suddenly not working. In the xfce volume control icon, instead of seeing my soundcard and stuff listed, it just says "Playback: Dummy Output (PulseAudio Mixer)" and the other option is "Capture: Monitor of Dummy Output (PulseAudio Mixer). This is really weird, I've not seen these before. What can I do? I wnt sound back ;__;
[08:52] <urfr332g0> mint, there is a minimal/net install not sure of the limitations there.
[08:53] <mint> i dont mind using a bigger drive.. i just wish i could use a 2gb stick with the persistent save method. so far it just fills up insanely fast
[08:53] <dRounse> if i use freenas can i grab things from usenet and torrents directly to it or do i need to have them go to a computer first
[08:53] <urfr332g0> Braden`, not that I know of, kind of a waste of time to be honest.
[08:54] <opalepatrick> I created a ext4 partition using gparted. I want it to have all my docs etc and have them available if I use another distro on another  partition. Can I just auto mount this partition as root?
[08:55] <niklasfi> opalepatrick: what do you mean by "as root" shurely you can, if you are root in your system
[08:55] <urfr332g0> opalepatrick, why would yhou want root, and name another distrom eh.
[08:56] <ServerSage> opalepatrick: You just want it to mount every time you reboot, correct?  If so, take a look at your /etc/fstab file.
[08:56] <dRounse> opalepatrick: dont put it in root, just leave it where it is and if you wanna change distros it needs to be in the same "family"
[08:57] <urfr332g0> dRounse, what is your definition of family?
[08:57] <dRounse> debian, ubuntu and mint are in the same family
[08:57] <dRounse> they are all debian based
[08:57] <urfr332g0> dRounse, lol
[08:57] <dRounse> and ive never had trouble changing the distro and leaving the files intact
[08:58] <ServerSage> dRounse: Why does that matter?  You can mount and ext4 partition under just about any distro.
[08:58] <dRounse> ServerSage: he was talking about mounting it in root so it stays when he changes distros
[08:59] <ServerSage> dRounse: I took it as he wanted to mount it at boot AS root.
[08:59] <urfr332g0> dRounse, which was a error in the question most open source does not run in root.
[09:00] <ServerSage> opalepatrick: Suppose you could clarify what it is you actually want to do since we are obviously confused..?
[09:00] <dRounse> ServerSage: oh, im so confused right now lol was he wrong or was i?
[09:00] <ServerSage> dRounse: Confusion is abundant!  Hehe.
[09:00] <urfr332g0> dRounse, you bothe are. :)
[09:00] <dRounse> how am i wrong?
[09:00] <dRounse> i think youre wrong
[09:01] <dRounse> ! | wrong
[09:01] <dRounse> urfr332g0 is the definition of wrong
[09:01] <dRounse> ;)
[09:01] <urfr332g0> dRounse, the use of family means nothing, most open source does not run in root, mounting a media disc in root is only applicable if the OS runs in root.
[09:02] <dRounse> urfr332g0 i was saying he didnt need anything in root, because if he wanted to change distros all his files would remain untouched
[09:02] <Hamed> every time i open my laptop I write this command to enable wifi sudo modprobe b43 is there any way to stop writing it every time ?
[09:02] <ServerSage> urfr332g0: Are you drinking?  :)
[09:02] <urfr332g0> ServerSage, I don't drink
[09:03] <ServerSage> Hamed: Take a look at /etc/modules and /etc/modules.d
[09:03] <dRounse> ServerSage, urfr332g0, i think we are all talking about different things
[09:03] <urfr332g0> it was a question that made no sense in substance, no mention of any distro and a want of root in a media partition.
[09:04] <dRounse> I created a ext4 partition using gparted. I want it to have all my docs etc and have them available if I use another distro on another  partition. Can I just auto mount this partition as root?
[09:04] <dRounse> thats what he wrote
[09:04] <urfr332g0> In the words of buckwheat OTAY.
[09:04] <urfr332g0> ;)
[09:04] <Dr_willis> dRounse:  you will need to mount it and change the ownership and permissions as needed.
[09:04] <ServerSage> dRounse urfr332g0: Since he isn't responding, we can safely move on.
[09:05] <ServerSage> Dr_willis: He wasn't asking, he was reposting somebody's else's question.  :)
[09:05] <opalepatrick> Yes sorry called away - ServerSage, dRounse - actually I think I was getting confused thinking the file system was 'inside' the distro structure. The fstab ref is the one I want I believe.
[09:05] <dRounse> ServerSage are you good with servers? i have a serious question
[09:05] <ServerSage> dRounse: Hit me.
[09:05] <urfr332g0> ServerSage, lol you were responding as well not quite the hiogher road bro. ;)
[09:05] <urfr332g0> higher
[09:06] <dRounse> is freenas 8 with ssh like an ubuntu server with ssh?
[09:06] <Dr_willis> I thought Freenas was BSD based
[09:06] <dRounse> i want to be able to access my files from not only my home network
[09:06] <ServerSage> urfr332g0: Not sure I said anything about higher roads…but you feel free to read anything you want into what I say.  *shrug*
[09:06] <dRounse> Dr_willis: it is
[09:06] <ServerSage> dRounse: Ummm, not sure what your question even means.  BSD != ubuntu
[09:07] <Dr_willis> and its very specilized. :)  for the job its designed to do.
[09:07] <urfr332g0> ServerSage, lol
[09:08] <ServerSage> dRounse: If you are asking if BSD is the same as Ubuntu, no.  :)
[09:08] <dRounse> well i know freeNAS is a NAS OS and ubuntu is a server OS, will they both do the same thing? I want it to server home media, and other files, to my desktop, laptop, tablet, etc... as well as serve my files to me while im not home
[09:08] <dRounse> ii know its not the same thing
[09:08] <ServerSage> dRounse: You can use Ubuntu as a NAS device.
[09:09] <ServerSage> dRounse: And you can use Ubuntu to serve up all your goodies to all the other systems on your network.
[09:09] <dRounse> but i saw that freeNAS 8 haas lot of new features that make it seem more like a file server
[09:09] <u890> hello, I want to convert images files from TIFF to JPG format. This command "convert *.tiff *.jpg" works, but leaves out filenames with spaces. How should I change that command to add files with spaces?
[09:09] <Dr_willis> theres also specific 'services' designed for streaming/converting to tablets and so forth on the fly  -  like mobli i belive.
[09:09] <dRounse> i am just having trouble with ubuntu and freeNAS seems easier as far as the server
[09:09] <dRounse> i use ubuntu on my desktop
[09:10] <Dr_willis> u890:  you may need to use the 'find' command and do some quoteing around teh file names argument. I tend to make it a point to NEVER use spaces in filenames :)
[09:10] <Seryth> Hey all, I'm having real trouble with pulseaudio. It was working fine a couple of days ago, and now it's suddenly not working. In the xfce volume control icon, instead of seeing my soundcard and stuff listed, it just says "Playback: Dummy Output (PulseAudio Mixer)" and the other option is "Capture: Monitor of Dummy Output (PulseAudio Mixer). This is really weird, I've not seen these before. What can I do? I want sound back ;__;
[09:10] <opalepatrick> just read that thread lol -  basically I was thinking ubuntu & app files etc on partition1, myfiles on partition 2, partition 3 for testing other distros. Should have told you at the start instead of giving u my thinking halfway through
[09:10] <ServerSage> dRounse: Are you looking to replace a FreeNAS setup with Ubuntu?
[09:11] <dRounse> ServerSage, kind of the other way around, basically is freenas less powerful as far as serving up goodies?
[09:11] <ServerSage> dRounse: I have limited FreeNAS experience, but in my limited use it did everything I needed.  I didn't find it lacking for serving up files.
[09:12] <u890> thank you, Dr. I will remember from now on to not use spaces. But can you perhaps show me how exactly use that 'find' command?
[09:12] <Hamed> lp
[09:12] <Hamed> (11:08:13 AM) Hamed: b43 this is my moudules file do you want me write sudo modprobe b43 after this lines
[09:12] <Dr_willis> dRounse:  it will depend on how you are 'serving' things. what service.  I dont see things like 'upnp' streaming services mentioned in the freenas docs.
[09:12] <ServerSage> dRounse: But, Ubuntu CAN do everything FreeNAS can do.
[09:12] <Dr_willis> u890:  not really. id have to look up find examples.
[09:13] <dRounse> ok so which would you prefer?
[09:13] <ServerSage> Hamed: Take a look at /etc/modules and /etc/modules.d - just like I said when you posted last time.  :)
[09:13] <Dr_willis> u890:  checkout  the various find examples and find  with spaces in filenames
[09:13] <ServerSage> dRounse: Ubuntu
[09:13] <u890> ok, I'll try to find something in the internet. Thanks for your help.
[09:13] <poyntz> Hi, I want to mount a Sandisk key but I don't know where it is. I mounted all the /dev/sda* to different folders and none of them are the SanDisk key
[09:13] <Dr_willis> dRounse:  it will totally depend on the details. Freenas is designed to be a fileserver as its main thing.   its not as flexiable as a ubuntu box would be. but its more focused to the task
[09:13] <sgo11> hi, gnome3 gnome-shell, ctrl+alt+shift+R for recording the screen, is that possible to pause? how to? thanks.
[09:13] <ServerSage> dRounse: Simply because it's easier to do *more*.  FreeNAS is built to do just one thing and one thing well, be a NAS divice.
[09:14] <poyntz> how can I detect the /dev/<file> or whatever in order to mount the Sandisk
[09:14] <themonitor> poyntz: dmesg
[09:14] <dRounse> ServerSage: ok when i installed ubuntu earlier it booted and then hung on a page with an orange "_" then the next time i booted it hung on a page with a white "_"
[09:14] <poyntz> themonitor: dmesg|grep Sandisk?
[09:15] <poyntz> themonitor: I tried dmesg and it dumped a ton of output and a few errors
[09:15] <ServerSage> dRounse: Before or after GRUB?
[09:15] <dRounse> after
[09:15] <Hamed> what can i do after take alook to this file ?
[09:16] <themonitor> poyntz: right after you plug the device in run dmesg|tail should give you the last device.
[09:16] <urfr332g0> poyntz, run sudo fdisk -l in the terminal
[09:16] <Dr_willis> the blkid  command may also show what device the sandisk is
[09:16] <poyntz> themonitor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845526/
[09:16] <ServerSage> dRounse: Have you tried to disable splash in grub to see if it's reporting anything?
[09:17] <poyntz> urfr332g0: I thought I mounted that already, I'll try again
[09:17] <dRounse> no, im going to try reintalling it on a different hdd that one always gives me trouble
[09:17] <ServerSage> dRounse: I should kick you in the shin.  :)
[09:18] <poyntz> urfr332g0: that worked :). thanks
[09:18] <urfr332g0> poyntz, cool
[09:18] <dRounse> well its late and i just want this server up and running ive been running into problem after problem with hardware and software
[09:18] <themonitor> poyntz: did it tell you sr0
[09:18] <dRounse> ive been trying a little bit everyday for over a month
[09:18] <poyntz> themonitor: it told me sdb1, i then mounted it and it was the right one :D
[09:19] <Dr_willis> dRounse:  dependign on the hardware bsd may have less support  then linux does..
[09:19] <poyntz> themonitor: thanks for offering a suggestion anyhow :)
[09:19] <themonitor> poyntz: I see. cool.
[09:19] <ServerSage> dRounse: I'm not sure BSD would be a good way to go then.
[09:19] <ServerSage> dRounse: Dr_willis said it best.  :)
[09:19] <Dr_willis> a cli only headless server.. wouldent need much int he way of hardware however.
[09:19] <dRounse> ServerSage: no ive completely changed all of the hardware from my original try
[09:19] <Dr_willis> so i have to wonder what issues you have been having.
[09:20] <ServerSage> dRounse: You shouldn't be hanging at an _ then.  Do you have any USB devices plugged in that might be buggered?
[09:20] <ServerSage> dRounse: I have a USB wifi adapter that causes Ubuntu to hang like that.
[09:20] <Dr_willis> good amounts- o-ram and loads-o-hd space -> happy server. :)
[09:20] <poyntz> urfr332g0: how do you remember that fdisk stands for partion table list?
[09:21] <poyntz> urfr332g0: *partition
[09:21] <Dr_willis> poyntz:  the fdisk command has been around for.. like generations. :)
[09:21] <outrage> Hi does anyone here run an ATI/AMD card on their Ubuntu???
[09:21] <poyntz> lol
[09:21] <urfr332g0> poyntz, practice, practice, practice. :)
[09:21] <crizzy> outrage: yes, hd6870
[09:21] <poyntz> Dr_willis: but still, what's fdisk actually stand for? :P
[09:21] <Dr_willis> format disk - perhaps.
[09:22] <urfr332g0> find disc?
[09:22] <boba88> my second display is not detected, before hand i got set it using displays detect monitor
[09:22] <urfr332g0> more likely format though
[09:22] <themonitor> poyntz: You become familiar with command names after a while.
[09:22] <poyntz> Dr_willis, urfr332g0: sorry to be naive but why not fpartition? :P
[09:22] <Dr_willis> poyntz:  rember theres NO   n in umount either. :)
[09:22] <dRounse> it was first the motherboard of one of the, well the processor, linux kernel 3 doesnt support p4 yet, but i didnt know tht until i had tried a gazzilion times, then the nic card on the next mobo i tried wasnt working so i had to buy a new one, but its an athlon ii which is more powerful than the celeron d i had as a desktop so i switched and now the server is on the celeron d mobo
[09:22] <outrage> crizzy, I have an issue with my graphics display. I have installed the latest  ATI driver for my 6670 and my Ubuntu runs like XP without the drivers i.e. slow desktop performance etc
[09:22] <boba88> anyone has an idea how to get my second monitor running
[09:22] <urfr332g0> poyntz, don't know realy.
[09:22] <Dr_willis> poyntz:  years ago you were limited in the legenth of file names.
[09:23] <poyntz> Dr_willis, urfr332g0 : ahh that makes sense :)
[09:23] <Dr_willis> good old 8.3 days   and befor  - even more limits.
[09:23] <crizzy> outrage: so you have proprietary driver installed?
[09:23] <arkiver> Hello. i am using ubuntu 11.10 . recently while i try to update , update stops and i get the following message:
[09:23]  * Dr_willis will take computer history for $300 
[09:23] <arkiver> http://pastebin.com/LtfmA8Qu
[09:23] <arkiver> bcz of this my update stops. what do i do ?
[09:23] <crizzy> outrage: and the 3D itself works, but compiz is slow/laggy?
[09:23] <ServerSage> dRounse: Huh?  Kernel v3 doesn't support a P4?
[09:23] <arkiver> can anyone help  ?
[09:23] <poyntz> Dr_willis, urfr332g0 : you'll hate me for asking this, but how well does Mac OS X Snow Leapard run under Grub2?
[09:23] <urfr332g0> poyntz, I would have to refer to the Dr though.
[09:23] <dRounse> ServerSage: correct
[09:24] <Dr_willis> poyntz:  no idea. i dont touch macs.
[09:24] <outrage> crizzy, at the moment its enabled.
[09:24] <urfr332g0> poyntz, we can't really help with hackintosh
[09:24] <crizzy> outrage: have you tested with any 3D game that it works well?
[09:24] <crizzy> outrage: you use unity/compiz?
[09:24] <ServerSage> dRounse: I think you may be mistaken.  P4 support has been in the kernel for a very, very long time.
[09:24] <Dr_willis> Mac Hardware needs some other bootloader i thought
[09:24] <poyntz> urfr332g0: that's alright, I figured it's a grub2 question, so possibly in your domain :P
[09:24] <outrage> crizzy, I dont think so.
[09:24] <urfr332g0> poyntz, the web is your muse. :)
[09:25] <crizzy> outrage: so do you use unity or not?
[09:25] <outrage> crizzy,  what is unity? a version of ubuntu?
[09:25] <tarelerulz> How different is 10.10 from 11.04 ?
[09:25] <dRounse> trust me i tried with every distro imaginable, then in the forums a guy said he had the same prob so i installed 10.10 and it worked like a charm, you can update to 11.10 but you cant do a live cd
[09:25] <crizzy> outrage: ui in ubuntu since 11.04
[09:25] <poyntz> urfr332g0, Dr_willis : well thanks again. I'll check out google and see if it knows the answer :)
[09:25] <themonitor> arkiver: try running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade from the term.
[09:25] <poyntz> ciao people
[09:26] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, different desktop, 11.04 has unity.
[09:26] <crizzy> outrage: does your desktop look like in this pic: http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/02_ubuntu/U_homepage/frontpage-laptop_l1.jpg
[09:26] <ServerSage> dRounse: I'm looking right at it, P4 support in v3 of the kernel.
[09:26] <outrage> crizzy,  no my desktop does not look like that
[09:26] <outrage> crizzy, I log in using the classic display
[09:26] <crizzy> outrage: ok, anyway, take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/38028/performance-being-really-choppy-with-ati-drivers the top answer
[09:27] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, 10.10 is the last gnome 2 release.
[09:27] <crizzy> it's likely what you're experiencing anyway
[09:27] <crizzy> (crappy vsync settings in compiz)
[09:27] <ServerSage> dRounse: Where is this forum post where somebody told you it is not supported?
[09:27] <dRounse> ServerSage it can support it but you cant use a live usb or cd with kernel v3
[09:27] <ServerSage> dRounse: Whoever told you that was blowing smoke up your back side.
[09:28] <ServerSage> dRounse: While it may not work on your system, it has nothing to do with it being a P4.  More likely, it has to do with your BIOS or CD/DVD drive.
[09:28] <dRounse> ServerSage well he helped me cuz he said to use a distro with kernel v2 and it worked, you can upgrade to kernel v3
[09:28] <tarelerulz> Is there KDE Still or everything unity
[09:28] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz:  KDE is still alive and well.
[09:28] <ServerSage> dRounse: I wanna see this forum post.  :)
[09:28] <Dr_willis> as is Lxde, xfce,
[09:28] <themonitor> tarelerulz: kubuntu.com
[09:29] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, kde yes
[09:29] <outrage> crizzy, must I restart the computer for changes to take effect??
[09:29] <crizzy> outrage: should work right the way i think
[09:29] <crizzy> outrage: at least relogin should be enough
[09:30] <tarelerulz> Officially everything is the unity ui  ?
[09:30] <outrage> crizzy,  its still remained the same. I had compiz installed before. I followed the top answer but my cpu usage goes above 70% when moving windows across my screen
[09:30] <dRounse> ServerSage sorry he didnt say it didnt support it, someone on here said it didnt and that it would be supported in 12.04
[09:30] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, ubuntu is unity
[09:30] <dRounse> the forum said he had trouble like me and the only way to get v3 is to update
[09:30] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz:  ubuntu uses unity. kubuntu uses kde.. lubuntuy uses lxde...
[09:31] <ServerSage> dRounse: Ubuntu 11.10 != kernel 3.0.  While Ubuntu uses the 3.0 kernel, it has nothing to do with the kernel supporting it.  If Ubuntu chooses to not compile in support that is one thing.
[09:31] <dRounse> tarelerulz: canonical has left kubuntu and its now a community distro, kde is still alive so is kubuntu
[09:31] <crizzy> outrage: further than that, i have no idea
[09:32] <dRounse> why am i guest?
[09:32] <outrage> crizzy,  I appreciate your help so far.
[09:32] <dRounse> oh wait thats not menvm
[09:32] <outrage> crizzy,  what drivers are you running for your 6870??
[09:32] <ServerSage> dRounse: And I can honestly say I have NO idea if Ubuntu included P4 support or not, I can't see how - or why - they wouldn't have.  I haven't seen or run a P4 in …. years.
[09:32] <tarelerulz> I put stuff on my NTFS partition where windows7 home perium lives and when I boot back into windows files get deleted.   Is that fixed in the newer versions ?
[09:32] <crizzy> umm, default ones of ubuntu 11.10
[09:33] <crizzy> at the moment
[09:33] <outrage> So you have the propriety drivers activated correct?
[09:33] <crizzy> yes
[09:33] <outrage> and ServerSage I am running a pentium 4
[09:33] <crizzy> works fine
[09:33] <outrage> crizzy, ok
[09:33] <outrage> strange.
[09:33] <crizzy> playing Warsow daily
[09:33] <crizzy> :-)
[09:33] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, your best to have a shared ntfs partition
[09:33] <outrage> interesting.
[09:34] <outrage> what games can I download/test to see if my drivers are truly functioning properly
[09:34] <crizzy> i did test latest 12.1 catalyst too, no probs with that either
[09:34] <ServerSage> dRounse: See, outrage is even running a P4.  :)  Thus proving both that K v3 supports it, and that Ubuntu included support.
[09:35] <dRounse> gahhh ServerSage i know it supports it but for somereason it wont boot, and he never specified what kernel hes running
[09:35] <ServerSage> dRounse: So again, whomever told you that it did not support a P4 was blowing smoke up the rear side of your khakis.  Like I said, if you can't boot a Live CD/DVD/USB then chances are your BIOS or DVD rom are the problem.
[09:35] <tarelerulz> A partition  between  windows and Ubuntu ? would I still not have the same problem?
[09:35] <outrage> I'm going to uninstall and reinstall drivers and see what happens.
[09:35] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, shouldn't, but to be honest yours makes no sense, without more details
[09:35] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: i am writing an email, but when i toggle the email-window to full-screen the text is not end in the line like it does before.... can i change this behavior anyhow or do i just have to press enter everytime i want the line to end?
[09:36] <ServerSage> greenit: Huh?
[09:36] <outrage> I'm running 11.04, crizzy would you recommend updating to 11.10 or not?
[09:37] <themonitor> greenit: When the window isn't full-screen the text just wraps to the next line so you can read it...
[09:37] <dRounse> is webmin safe on ubuntu
[09:37] <crizzy> outrage: 11.10 won't have classic desktop anymore :)
[09:37] <outrage> ah yeah that would be a problem
[09:37] <crizzy> outrage: i didn't have any probs with ati in 11.04 either, though
[09:37] <crizzy> outrage: but unity nowadays is just fine, give it a chance :)
[09:37] <crizzy> only thing that pissed me off was autohiding panel
[09:38] <tarelerulz> Do any of you dual boot?  Do any of you run both windows 7 home perium  and Ubuntu 10.10?
[09:38] <outrage> I can get unity running on 11.04 its not aproblem
[09:38] <crizzy> but that's easy to disable.. and hiding is gone altogether in 12.04
[09:38] <crizzy> outrage: yeah but it was first unity versions.. it's considerably more annoying than 11.10/12.04 versions
[09:38] <outrage> my only problem is just ubuntu is like xp with a graphics card and no driver.
[09:38] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, I have 5 OS one is W7 the rest are 3 ubuntus and a fedora
[09:38] <themonitor> tarelerulz: I have and I've never had a problem like that. How did you set up your ntfs partition?
[09:39] <outrage> Is there a difference between propriety drivers and downloading the driver off AMD site crizzy ?
[09:39] <crizzy> well, amd site has newer ones
[09:39] <Dr_willis> outrage,  use the ones from the repos if they work.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> newer ones may or may not work
[09:39] <crizzy> they work just fine
[09:39] <outrage> Dr_willis, repos??
[09:39] <crizzy> not TOO hard to install either
[09:39] <Dr_willis> !repo
[09:39] <Dr_willis> They MAY or May NOT work.
[09:39] <crizzy> they do work
[09:39] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed
[09:39] <greenit> themonitor, can i change this behavior, for example that the line does not get longer so that it fits on an a4-site?
[09:39] <tarelerulz> It is the same ntfs partition windows 7 runs on .  I mount it with ntfs-3g in Ubuntu 10.10 .  That is how I have  it set up
[09:39] <Dr_willis> and installing them from the company site - i belive is not supported by this channel
[09:40] <outrage> I've installed the latest 12.1 drivers for ATI and they worked but I still had the same problem as now
[09:40] <crizzy> however i doubt it'll solve anything for you
[09:40] <themonitor> greenit: I don't think so.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> It all depends on the card and versions and other things. if the newer drivers work, or cause more problems.
[09:40] <ServerSage> greenit: Email doesn't really have the concept of "page size".
[09:40] <crizzy> i'm sure it's that vsync problem i linked earlier, though
[09:40] <Guest63779> Hi, just got new laptop which has windows 7 on it. Trying to install ubuntu 11.10  alongside it. I run the wubi.exe, click "demo and full installation", select "reboot now" But when it reboots, it's as if nothing has changed and doesn't offer the opportunity to start with ubuntu. Any ideas anyone?
[09:40] <Dr_willis>  The newer ati drivers worked for unity for me. but still have issues in gnome-shell.
[09:40] <greenit> ServerSage, well... when i want to print it, will it then fit the a4-site?
[09:41] <acekiller> ls
[09:41] <ServerSage> greenit: When you print it you can choose to have it "fit to page".
[09:41] <greenit> ServerSage, ah, k, thx :)
[09:41] <tarelerulz> NTFS for windows7 must be different .   I have been downloading movies to the ntfs partition for years.  Never had any problem.
[09:41] <themonitor> tarelerulz: so you mount it from the file browser everytime?
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Ntfs under windows 7 works fine for me under my ubuntu installs also.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> but i missed the actual problem.
[09:42] <tarelerulz> I use terminal  ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/windows7  and it shows up on the desktop
[09:42] <urfr332g0> Dr_willis, missing files loaded to windows.
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Watch out for Files with  Differnt Case Names perhaps?   ThisFile  vs thisfile    perhaps?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> ive never had any missing. :)
[09:43] <boba88> why my ubuntu 11.10 does not recognize my second monitor?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> had a 'ThisFile' and 'thisfile' issue on samba shares befor.
[09:43] <Nirkus> hm, somehow my quickstart keys (windows key + number) for applications have vanished from unity bar since yesterday oO
[09:43] <tarelerulz>  I save files to the ntfs partition .  When I boot back into windows it deletes them.  I have never had this problem before
[09:43] <urfr332g0> tarelerulz, I just click mine in home left panel.
[09:43] <Dr_willis> boba88,  whats your video card/gpu?
[09:43] <Hamed> could any one help me to put this command in boot sudo modprobe b43
[09:44] <Dr_willis> Hamed,  add it to /etc/rc.local or to your modules auto load/ list.  perhaps.
[09:44] <themonitor> tarelerulz: try sudo? maybe you don't actually have permissions.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> I thought b43 was  obsolete.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> !whitelist
[09:44] <tarelerulz> I forgot I do use sudo .
[09:44] <Dr_willis> !modules
[09:44] <themonitor> tarelerulz: I would add it to fstab so you don't have to mount it everytime.
[09:46] <tarelerulz> Sure that would be easy ,but it would not change the problem.   Windows deletes files when I boot back into it.  I thought maybe I was mounting it with bad version of NTFS-3g .  I thought maybe if I updated to 11.  the problem would be fixed
[09:46] <ServerSage> Hamed: Did you find my suggestion confusing?  If so, what part did you not understand?  Maybe I can walk you through it.
[09:46] <Hamed> serversage
[09:46] <themonitor> tarelerulz: you should try it. it might fix the problem. you never know.
[09:46] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz,  id check the ntfs-3g homepage/forums and see if anything shows up. also try unmounting the ntfs partion after making a test file. and see if it reappears.
[09:47] <Dr_willis> it could be windows is some how file system checking and removing a 'bad' file.
[09:47] <boba88> Dr_willis: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GT] (rev a2)
[09:47] <Hamed> sorry but i want to know is this file etc/modules that i must write the command in it ?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> boba88,  i normally just install the nvidia drivers, reboot., run the nvidia-settings tool as root. enable twinview.  restart the X server.. both monitors work.
[09:47] <ServerSage> Hamed: Did you open up the file?  If you edit /etc/modules you will see some comments at the top that tell you modules in the file will be loaded on boot.  You simply add your module to the list.
[09:48] <tarelerulz> I will do that.  It sucks . I spent a lot of time downloading that stuff and it sucks to lose it.  Plus , XBMC should update to fix their 1080 p play back problem.
[09:48] <themonitor> tarelerulz: you shouldn't download illegally...
[09:48] <boba88> Dr_willis: Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:  Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[09:48] <Dr_willis> boba88,  for what exactly?
[09:48] <Hamed> my moudule is modprobe b43 right ? or just b43
[09:49] <Dr_willis> modprobe is a command to load a module..
[09:49] <sidb> hey can someone tell me how can i use the packages from someone elses`s ubuntu`s /var/cche/apt/archives folder in my own ubuntu
[09:49] <ServerSage> Hamed: modprobe is the command that loads the module.  b43 is the module.
[09:49] <boba88> Dr_willis: sudo nvidia-settings and then x server configuration page
[09:49] <Dr_willis> module name in your case is b43
[09:49] <tarelerulz> It could be a blue ray of my own
[09:49] <boba88> Dr_willis: sudo nvidia-settings and then x server display configuration
[09:49] <Dr_willis> boba88,  you installed the nvidia-drivers ?
[09:49] <tarelerulz> Other then that xbmc is great program.  That is small bug.
[09:50] <boba88> yes currently the post release drivers version 173
[09:50] <Hamed> lp
[09:50] <Hamed> b43
[09:50] <boba88> Dr_willis: yes currently the post release drivers version 173
[09:50] <Hamed> this lines already in etc/modules
[09:50] <ServerSage> Hamed:  Is it commented out?
[09:50] <Dr_willis> boba88,  theres also example xorg.conf files online you could try. or the 'sudo nvidia-xconfig -a' command (i think)
[09:50] <themonitor> tarelerulz: hope you get everything working :)
[09:50] <ServerSage> Hamed: If it's not commented out you'll need to take a look in the logs.  You can find them in /var/log/
[09:50] <Hamed> yes out of comment
[09:51] <themonitor> well, night everyone.
[09:51] <Hamed> var/log which file ?
[09:52] <boba88> Dr_willis: ERROR: Unable to assign attribute DigitalVibrance specified on line 48 of configuration file '/home/student005/.nvidia-settings-rc' (no Display connection). when trying to run sudo nvidia-settings
[09:53] <ServerSage> Hamed: Take a look at /var/log/udev or /var/log/kern.log - if neither have anything run "grep b43 /var/log/*"
[09:53] <Dr_willis> you allready have a user .nvidia-settings-rc file it seems. perhaps remove/rename it.  the root user shouldent be touching the user files..
[09:54] <Dr_willis> boba88,  both monitors were plugged in when you booted the system? this a desktop or laptop?
[09:54] <boba88> Dr_willis: yes were plugged, and desktop
[09:55] <Dr_willis> I used to have a 8800gtsxxx (i think) never had any of these issues.. but its been some time ago.
[09:56] <boba88> Dr_willis: now after renaming it and trying to run sudo nvidia settings i get (nvidia-settings:2764): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap" and there is no two screens detected
[09:56] <Dr_willis> thats a gtk theme warning...
[09:56] <Dr_willis> meaningless warning. :)
[09:57] <Dr_willis> How are the monitors hooked up? using any adaptors/converters?
[09:57] <boba88> Dr_willis: normal DVIs
[09:57] <Dr_willis> Out of ideas then.
[09:57] <boba88> Dr_willis: ok
[09:57] <boba88> Dr_willis: thanks
[09:58] <kbotnen_> how can I tell Ubuntu that it needs a reboot? I want the com.ubuntu.SystemService.is_reboot_required to be true.
[10:01] <RichiH> how can i bump the version of a ubuntu package to its debian euivalent
[10:01] <RichiH> ubuntu is still stuck with an ancient version of my package
[10:03] <terminhell> get it from an actual deb repo
[10:06] <auronandace> terminhell: never a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu repos
[10:06] <JernejL_Work> i really need some help, can anyone tell me what this means or how to fix this? my dmesg is SPAMMED with a ton of these:
[10:06] <JernejL_Work> [3578749.737067] type=1400 audit(1329438608.667:118668): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=20075 comm="apparmor_parser"
[10:07] <Feye> Hello, please can someone tell how to, or point to a relevant web page, on how to boot directly into X environment omitting gdm and password ? Thank you.
[10:07] <Feye> I was googling for it, but all results I get are about how to boot into a command line. That's not what I am interested in.
[10:08] <terminhell> auronandace: isnt ubuntu based on debian?
[10:08] <auronandace> terminhell: yes, but if you mix repos you will break stuff
[10:09] <terminhell> hmm
[10:10] <lahwran> how do I unbind the alt key so that it doesn't make windows drag?
[10:10] <lahwran> perhaps move that to the super key
[10:10] <pangolin> terminhell: a deb for debian may requires newer versions of libraries that could be available in the ubuntu repos but those libraries may not work well with other apps that require the ubuntu version of the lib.
[10:10] <Ben64> Feye: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[10:10] <pangolin> in other words, don't mix repos.
[10:11] <terminhell> pangolin: ah, yea its been ages since ive actually used debian/ubuntu
[10:13] <Asifan> help ubuntu people
[10:13] <Asifan> i want to ask if it is possible to install ubuntu n a mac?
[10:13] <Feye> Thank you Ben64.
[10:13] <terminhell> i forget how seemingly separated ubuntu has drifted from debian. In the past i remember being able to use debian repo's fairly problem free
[10:14] <Ben64> Asifan: depends on the cpu, not sure if ubuntu still supports powerpc
[10:14] <Asifan> my CPU is intel
[10:14] <Ben64> then it will work, its no different from any other computer
[10:15] <Asifan> i tried to install it from a live CD, it goes well except in the very end it cranes. has to do with something about restart or something
[10:15] <Asifan> so when i boot my computer it doesn't boot on ubuntu, just doesn't recognize it
[10:15] <sdsdsdsd> hello
[10:17] <Asifan> so any help with my problem? :)
[10:19] <boba88> if anyone is aware of how to enable my second monitor under ubuntu 11.10
[10:19] <boba88> if anyone is aware of how to enable my second monitor under ubuntu 11.10?
[10:20] <terminhell> turn the other monitor on :p
[10:20] <boba88> terminhell: is turned on, but the system does not recoginize it :P
[10:20] <newbie> hi all
[10:20] <newbie> i need help
[10:20] <newbie> i'm new of ubuntu
[10:21] <soee> hi, guys do you have ant good tutorials how can i configure VPS server for php/mysql/apache etc ?
[10:21] <terminhell> boba88: have the other monitor blugged in and run X --configure
[10:22] <Guest50883> and i dont know why my ubnutu software center doesn't work any more...
[10:22] <Guest50883> it doesnt't open nor nothing
[10:22] <Guest50883> ??????????????????????????????????????????'''
[10:22] <boba88> terminhell: Fatal server error: Unrecognized option: --configure, you mean nvidia-xconfig
[10:22] <Guest50883> can dsomeone help please?
[10:22] <boba88> terminhell: or X --configure?
[10:23] <terminhell> boba88: sure, if using nvidia
[10:23] <Guest50883> please ome help
[10:23] <prezeus> hi
[10:23] <boba88> terminhell: but i already run that
[10:23] <boba88> terminhell: but i already ran that
[10:23] <terminhell> boba88: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia
[10:23] <terminhell> read the multiple monitors section
[10:24] <terminhell> afterwards you'll need to restart X
[10:24] <prezeus> hi guys, is there anyway of coming back to gnome2? i tried the fallback but you can do nothing with panels for example....
[10:25] <Guest50883> guys help! my sowftware center doesn't work any moer!
[10:25] <terminhell> prezeus: look into peppermint i think, otherwise not sure if ubuntu will let you
[10:25] <terminhell> Guest50883: be more specific
[10:25] <prezeus> terminhell: what is peppermint...?
[10:26] <terminhell> prezeus: a fork of gnome2 if i recall correctly
[10:26] <prezeus> terminhel: aha...
[10:26] <prezeus> terminhell: thank you I'll see
[10:27] <Guest50883> im running on ubuntu 11.10 and after i installed it i managed to do all of the updates..know if i click on the software center icon nothing happenes...
[10:27] <KyungChan> hello all
[10:27] <prezeus> hi
[10:28] <terminhell> prezeus: sorry, its 'mate'
[10:28] <prezeus> terminhell: mate?
[10:28] <terminhell> yes
[10:28] <terminhell> but i think its something the linuxmint guys cooked up
[10:29] <prezeus> but i mean is a distro?
[10:29] <prezeus> or is an environment that you install....
[10:29] <Asifan> i have been sruggeling with ubuntu on 5 different computers
[10:29] <eutheria> how can i stop skype taking focus from me?
[10:29] <Asifan> is there a way to explain how to install it?
[10:30] <prezeus> in internet you have plently of tutorials Asifan...
[10:31] <Asifan> non of them work, i have been at it for 6 months
[10:31] <Asifan> when ever i have free time i try to install it and doesn't work
[10:31] <prezeus> what happens more specific?
[10:32] <KyungChan> How do i make a good looking desktop environment?
[10:32] <terminhell> KyungChan: cryons
[10:32] <Asifan> 1. MacbookPro no CD Ubuntu will not boot from a Live USB.
[10:32] <Asifan> 2. Intel MacbookPro using Live CD will not install on HDD.
[10:33] <Asifan> 3. Sony Vio will not start from Live USB.
[10:33] <Asifan> 4. Sony Vio will not even start from Live CD.
[10:33] <Asifan> 5. MAC OS X wil work ubuntu on a virtual machine but it is VERY slow.
[10:33] <prezeus> you mean that you tried in all of these machines?
[10:33] <Asifan> yes
[10:33] <KyungChan> I prefer not to use ios
[10:33] <terminhell> bad usb imaging
[10:34] <Asifan> i get a new now everytime
[10:34] <prezeus> ubuntu/mac is a tricky thing
[10:34] <Asifan> but it won't even on on sony vio
[10:34] <prezeus> you'll have to look for a specific tutorial
[10:34] <KyungChan> or not changing his booting order
[10:34] <prezeus> for sony vaio....
[10:34] <onasis> anyone have any ideas what is considered one of the best video capture app for ubuntu please?
[10:34] <Asifan> any help with a tutorial? i can't find anything that explains the errors i get
[10:34] <KyungChan> it could be loading his hhd then maybe usb
[10:34] <onasis> using laptop camera
[10:35] <prezeus> I mean did tried changin the boot order?
[10:35] <Asifan> it won't even recognize the software.
[10:35] <Asifan> when i boot it tells me file not found
[10:35] <terminhell> how did you create the live usb?
[10:35] <Asifan> and i install ubuntu on its own not with another OS
[10:35] <KyungChan> what program are you using to make it live?
[10:35] <Asifan> through the terminal commands
[10:35] <terminhell> dd?
[10:36] <Asifan> yes
[10:36] <Asifan> from the instructions in the ubuntu website
[10:36] <Asifan> and it is created fine. no errors when i do it
[10:36] <terminhell> did you do dd /path/to image of="/dev/sdb1 or /sdb
[10:36] <Asifan> yep
[10:36] <terminhell> which
[10:36] <terminhell> sdb or sdb1
[10:37] <Asifan> 1 sec let me copy it
[10:37] <diverdude> is there a way i can set terminal title to always be the last command?
[10:37] <Asifan> sudo dd if=/path/to/file.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[10:38] <terminhell> 0.o
[10:38] <Asifan> and the USB is created fine no errors
[10:38] <Asifan> but can't boot from it
[10:38] <terminhell> you may also have to set a boot flag on it
[10:38] <Asifan> how?
[10:38] <sergio__> hello
[10:39] <terminhell> did you dd from mac os?
[10:39] <sergio__> can you  help me?
[10:39] <Asifan> yes
[10:39] <terminhell> im not familiar with the bs=1m flags
[10:40] <terminhell> or mac os
[10:40] <JernejL_Work> init: mysql main process ended, respawning
[10:40] <JernejL_Work> what is making this happen?
[10:40] <JernejL_Work> why does it respawn?
[10:40] <Asifan> what about installing it on the mac HDD?
[10:40] <terminhell> dd would just image the live image to your hdd
[10:40] <terminhell> not something you want
[10:40] <Asifan> it installs fine form the LIVE CD, but in the very end it tells me something wrong with start up
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[10:41] <terminhell> have you tried unetbootin?
[10:41] <Asifan> what is that?
[10:41] <JernejL_Work> KyungChan, seriously?
[10:41] <sergio__> I have installed an extension for Gnome shell and after ,I reboot  and gnome shell not found
[10:41] <KyungChan> yeah there is no point flooding with problems because no one knows where to start
[10:41] <KyungChan> I might be able to help, pm me
[10:42] <JernejL_Work> it's the same problem
[10:42] <KyungChan> okay, log out and look at where the taskbar will be, look for gnome and log in
[10:43] <terminhell> sergio__: use gnome-tweak-tool
[10:43] <naaaaaah> hello, I need support for xerox network printers with ubuntu 11.10
[10:43] <Asifan> terminhell: so what is unetbootin?
[10:44] <terminhell> sergio__: once you install the extension, open gnome tweak, under extensions it should be listed for you to enable. if, after you enable it and still nothing restart gnome-shell
[10:44] <sergio__> hi?
[10:45] <KyungChan> sergio_: problems?
[10:49] <sergio__> pipeision
[10:59] <evildaemon> Hello
[10:59] <evildaemon> I can't authenticate wireless.
[11:00] <_Brun0_> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on command-line using the alternate cd. It is using a minimal window manager (i3) and I'd like to install a GTK theme. How do I know which GTK version I have in my Ubuntu? Should I install GTK2 or GTK3 themes?
[11:00] <terminhell> first install gtk...
[11:01] <_Brun0_> terminhell, don't I have it already?
[11:01] <evildaemon> So I'm not sure if my problem is with wpa_supplicant or what. For reference I'm using Xubuntu 11.10
[11:02] <_Brun0_> terminhell, as I said I have a minimal window manager installed already.
[11:02] <onasis> anyone know of a good ubuntu webcam capture app?
[11:03] <terminhell> do you see a gtk2 or gtk3 folder in your /etc
[11:06] <_Brun0_> terminhell, both
[11:06] <evildaemon> Also, it's NOT a driver problem. I've tried three different devices. (One of which I KNOW works under Ubuntu.) none work.
[11:06] <terminhell> then you'd want gtk3 stuff
[11:07] <terminhell> onasis: cheese
[11:07] <onasis> lol!
[11:07] <terminhell> im serious
[11:07] <terminhell> simple and effective
[11:08] <onasis> perfect
[11:08] <onasis> thanx#
[11:08] <evildaemon> terminhell: Any ideas?
[11:08] <_Brun0_> terminhell, thank you. do you happen to know if it is okay for me to isntall gtk2.0 themes?
[11:08] <terminhell> evildaemon: your user may not have permission for wifi
[11:09] <evildaemon> terminhell: Interesting. How would I check?
[11:09] <terminhell> groups
[11:09] <terminhell> and see if networkmanager is listed
[11:09] <terminhell> type 'groups' in terminal
[11:09] <terminhell> <<<loves terminal....terminal hell....terminhell :p
[11:10] <evildaemon> It's not. I think you've found the problem.
[11:10] <terminhell> ironically in gui... =/
[11:10] <evildaemon> Love you.
[11:10] <terminhell> ok do this
[11:10] <evildaemon> Just add them?
[11:10] <terminhell> sudo gpasswd -a username networkmanager
[11:10] <karel_ff> About the removal of the sun-java packages: I assumed this was for all distro's, but it's still there for Natty. Can anyone enlighten me?
[11:10] <terminhell> then restart networkmanager
[11:11] <terminhell> i think ubuntu does this by sudo init.d stop networkmanager && init.d start networkmanager
[11:12] <evildaemon> terminhell: It says theres no networkmanager group.
[11:12] <terminhell> is dbus running?
[11:13] <terminhell> and or do you have it installed?
[11:13] <evildaemon> Good question.
[11:13] <terminhell> and have networkmanager installed?
[11:13] <evildaemon> Networkmanager is installed.
[11:13] <evildaemon> dbus I'm not so sure about.
[11:13] <terminhell> what kind of installation of ubuntu do you have
[11:14] <Asifan> terminhell: hi, i tried using unetbootin, it kind of worked, but the screen went black
[11:14] <Asifan> any help?
[11:14] <evildaemon> terminhell: I said Xubuntu 11.10
[11:14] <terminhell> Asifan: you may have to rety it a few times. its a bit buggy sometimes. that or manually select it as a boot option from POST
[11:14] <evildaemon> terminhell: Is there a simple command to list all processes?
[11:15] <evildaemon> (Thats not top)
[11:15] <terminhell> evildaemon: i mean, desktop, server etc...
[11:15] <evildaemon> terminhell: Desktop.
[11:15] <Asifan> terminhell: ok
[11:15] <Smiley> yo
[11:15] <Smiley> how do i make sure that nagios-nrpe starts at boot?
[11:15] <evildaemon> Smiley: Add it to the boot commands,
[11:16] <Smiley> evildaemon: ok.... where are those?
[11:16] <Asifan> terminhell: can i use unetbootin to install on a HDD?
[11:16] <Smiley> as i don't have rcconf, sysvinit, rc-update, chkconfig, or any tool like that..
[11:16] <terminhell> Asifan: no
[11:17] <evildaemon> Smiley: This looks helpful http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[11:17] <tarelerulz> Is there any movie format the supports meta tagging?
[11:17] <terminhell> evildaemon: bare with me, im on arch, trying to remember how ubuntu works
[11:17] <evildaemon> terminhell: Ah. I'd use arch if they'd sign their damn packages.
[11:18] <Smiley> ty evildaemon
[11:18] <Smiley> seems its already enabled, coolies.
[11:18] <terminhell> evildaemon: they do now ;) excluding aur...and well most of extra
[11:18] <terminhell> but core is all signed
[11:18] <evildaemon> Finally.
[11:18] <terminhell> ya
[11:18] <geoffw8_> finally I have arrived, yes
[11:19] <geoffw8_> \o/
[11:19] <terminhell> evildaemon: see if init.d list does
[11:19] <evildaemon> terminhell: Anyway, dbus appears to be installed. But I'd really appreciate a simple command to list all processes.
[11:20] <terminhell> init.d list
[11:20] <server_> I accidentaly added, "sudo apt-get remove pm-utils --purge" to a update script i was running
[11:21] <server_> now I can't log in with gnome
[11:21] <evildaemon> terminhell: That didn't work. but top says the dbus daemon is running.
[11:21] <server_> is there a termianl based webbrowser i can get with apt?
[11:21] <evildaemon> server_: elinks
[11:22] <terminhell> evildaemon: thats a good start
[11:22] <terminhell> evildaemon: and networkmanager is installed?
[11:22] <evildaemon> terminhell: nmcli is present.
[11:22] <evildaemon> terminhell: The problem is with authentication.
[11:23] <terminhell> evildaemon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wpa_supplicant
[11:23] <terminhell> evildaemon: replace pacman with apt-get
[11:23] <evildaemon> terminhell: I know, don't know what to do about it.
[11:25] <server_> I'm I server_?
[11:25] <evildaemon> server_: Yes. elinks
[11:26] <server_> okey thanks
[11:26] <server_> exit
[11:26] <terminhell> fail
[11:26] <evildaemon> terminhell: What?
[11:26] <terminhell> nvm
[11:26] <terminhell> evildaemon: does that wiki help at all?
[11:26] <evildaemon> terminhell: Him trying to use exit? Yeah that was pretty funny.
[11:26] <evildaemon> terminhell: Sort of.
[11:27] <cureing> ubuntu does not supporting my desktop dell vostro 360...it does not show any display...please help....
[11:27] <terminhell> cureing: your video card driver isnt supported probably
[11:28] <terminhell> cureing: try fallback
[11:28] <cureing> what is fallback...!!!
[11:28] <terminhell> my appoligies to the chat, im not an ubuntu user, well not been for over a year. But i've plenty of general linux experience.
[11:28] <bangawking> hi guys can anyone help me learn how to use apache? im just starting at this stuff so i dont know anything yet :_
[11:29] <bangawking> @terminshell , , can you help me?
[11:30] <terminhell> bangawking: ill try. you have appache installed yes? and httpd deamon running?
[11:30] <bangawking> yes they are both running , , im using bodhi linux
[11:31] <terminhell> do you get anything when you attempt to connect to your local host?
[11:31] <bangawking> so how do i use the apache server?
[11:31] <cureing> ubuntu does not supporting my desktop dell vostro 360...it does not show any display...please help....
[11:31] <bangawking> yes the localhost is now running and its blank , ,
[11:31] <bangawking> well its got myphpadmin already working
[11:31] <evildaemon> cureing: Hold shift at startup, you'll get a menu. Choose recover mode. Use the fallback mode option.
[11:32] <terminhell> bangawking: what do you plan on using the server for? that will determine a lot
[11:32] <cureing> evildaemon:what it does..>!
[11:32] <bangawking> well we use windows at school , , its quite easy to put php files on the server, ,  we use a software called xamp at school
[11:33] <bangawking> but in linux i cant figure out how to do that
[11:33] <caaakeeey> how do i say "this hostname A maps to hostname B" and then let DNS worry about which ip hosthame B resolves to?
[11:33] <terminhell> bangawking: so your just trying to file share?
[11:34] <evildaemon> cureing: It runs Ubuntu in low graphics mode so that your graphics card isn't invoked. Then you can install a graphics driver.
[11:34] <bangawking> i want to see my php file on the browser by going to the localhost , , :)
[11:34] <terminhell> so you need apache and php
[11:34] <kp> test
[11:35] <bangawking> yes i got them all installed, , even the mysql
[11:35] <evildaemon> cureing: After you install the driver (If one exists) your machine should work fine.
[11:35] <nili> i recently started with bugfixing in ubuntu i got stuck in testing the bug ,how to find the release of the bug can u pls help me
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[11:35] <terminhell> sometimes you may not be able to view it inside a local network domain
[11:36] <terminhell> unless its configured correctly
[11:36] <bangawking> so how do i do it? , , ,
[11:36] <terminhell> i dont remember =/
[11:36] <cureing> evildaemon:where to find driver...!!! because it does not detect additional drivers automatically......
[11:36] <terminhell> but i hope ive shinned a little lite on the direction to look
[11:36] <bangawking> :) well thanks anyway
[11:37] <bangawking> yeah , , and i think i need to learn all these softwares from scratch
[11:37] <nili>  how can i find release of the bug
[11:37] <terminhell> google my friend...google
[11:37] <evildaemon> cureing: Well if thats the case you have to google your graphics card. (The name of which can be obtained using lspci.) And pray.
[11:37] <bangawking> coz they work a little different from thos we use in windows
[11:38] <terminhell> bangawking: ya windows plays a bit nicer with itself...
[11:38] <cureing> evildaemon:it does not have graphics card...
[11:38] <terminhell> probably intel then?
[11:39] <MojZ> hi
[11:39] <MojZ> how can i make mysql start at boot time?
[11:39] <terminhell> nah, if was intel, xorg should have detected...hmm,
[11:39] <arnsa> could anyone help me with burning .dmg file to DVD on ubuntu? I've tried to convert it to .iso file with dmg2iso.pl but this program doesn't work as it should... any other solutions?
[11:39] <evildaemon> MojZ: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[11:41] <DW-Drew> Where should I be looking to figure out why just recently a standard boot never gets to the login screen, but if I kill the quiet parameter from grub everything works as expected?
[11:42] <MojZ> thank you evildaemon
[11:43] <terminhell> i dont like quiet boot, i like to watch text scroll
[11:45] <DW-Drew> terminhell: if I see words, I want to read them, and the words go by much to quickly for me to read
[11:45] <terminhell> true, but when theres a hangup, you know where
[11:46]  * DW-Drew may be a little weird like that
[11:47] <DW-Drew> that's the thing, it doesn't hang if I kill off quiet
[11:47] <arnsa> could anyone help me with burning .dmg file to DVD on ubuntu? I've tried to convert it to .iso file with dmg2iso.pl but this program doesn't work as it should... any other solutions?
[11:47] <zacarias> When trying to run gnome-tweak-tool, I have the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845656/      Any help?
[11:47] <terminhell> yea thats weird, why having --quiet would matter
[11:49] <DW-Drew> this is why idek where to look to start finding it
[11:49] <DW-Drew> unless there is a race that the extra cycles needed to actually write to screen throws off, which is a bit beyond what I know how to pin down
[11:52] <auska> Trying to do an apt-get update I get this error: http://pastebin.com/p3YdRFWN how can I solve it?
[11:53] <terminhell> bad repos
[11:53] <terminhell> remove them, or see if theres updated ones for it
[11:55] <korukor> arnsa: do you need it to be bootable?
[11:56] <Spyros> auska, check ppa.launchpad.net/dlecan/openjdk/ubuntu/dists
[11:56] <arnsa> korukor, yes, because I want to install OS X on my machine
[11:56] <auska> Spanky, but in which file would i found it?
[11:56] <auska> since is not on the /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <Spyros> /etc/sources.d ?
[11:57] <prezeus> is there a way of having gnome 2 in 11.10?
[11:57] <iceroot> prezeus: no
[11:57] <iceroot> !nounity | prezeus
[11:58] <korukor> arnsa: I'd used UltraISO on windows for that. On Ubuntu, no joy.
[11:58] <prezeus> ubottu: I did the fallback but I can't personalize the panels I supose I have to install gnome-panels
[11:58] <arnsa> korukor, what if I install Virtual Machine and install windows on it?
[11:59] <DW-Drew> arnsa, that's a chunk of work to convert an image, but if you're up for it, it should work
[12:00] <prezeus> WTF... ubottu is a bot?
[12:00] <korukor> arnsa: worth a shot.
[12:00] <linux> hi,hello
[12:01] <MagNet> looking for a great Music program with built in EQ
[12:02] <terminhell> vlc
[12:02] <terminhell> banshee
[12:02] <Spyros> hi linux
[12:04] <randomnewb> Is it normal for nautilus to use 2.4 GiB of memory after loading a directory full of pictures?
[12:05] <MagNet> randomnewb, i can load up like 5000 pictures and it doesnt use that much. Do you have any plugins isntalled with it?
[12:05] <MagNet> or addons?
[12:05] <randomnewb> I'm not sure.
[12:06] <MagNet> What display manager are you using?
[12:06] <tzio> #Ubuntu
[12:06] <MagNet> Unity, Gnome3, ?
[12:06] <DW-Drew> randomnewb, did it have to generate all the thumbnails, or were they already there?
[12:06] <randomnewb> Gnome 2 I'm assuming as I'm using 10.04.
[12:07] <MagNet> Ahh, i found in 10.04 when doing thumbnails for the first time it was a memory hog. Maybe kill your X Session and then log back in, try loading them again and see if it happens again?
[12:08] <randomnewb> It's generating thumbnails, got 21k pics in the directory.
[12:08] <niklasfi> hey guys, i have a problem. i have a half-way installed mysql-server. could you help me? here is what i have tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/845625/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/845626/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/845627/
[12:08] <tzio> Hi all! I cant find gigabyte ga-fxa ud7 motherboard drivers and where I setup the cpu core. Plz help
[12:08] <MagNet> randomnewb, that would be why :)
[12:09] <DW-Drew> randomnewb,  if it's generating them, that is kindof  a memory hog. if they are already in the thumbnail cache it is NOWHERE near as bad
[12:09] <prezeus> it is posible to install compiz fusion in kubuntu 11.10 I had problems with gnome3 and I'm thinking of trying kubuntu.....
[12:09] <prezeus> ?
[12:10] <niklasfi> tzio: which drivers exactly do you need?
[12:10] <vageesh> hi I am new to ubuntu and I want to install a driver to use my nvidia graphic card on my dell XPS 14 l401x model.  I am using ubuntu 10.10
[12:11] <niklasfi> vageesh: have you activated the restricted drivers?
[12:12] <MagNet> tzio what exactly do you mean "Set up the cpu core" ??
[12:12] <tzio> I need all fxa ud7 drivers :)
[12:12] <niklasfi> tzio: drivers for what? sound card, graphics chip, networking?
[12:13] <kbotnen_> while building a package for ubuntu, is the uninstall scripts called prerm or preuninstall?
[12:13] <tzio> sound card, graphics chip
[12:13] <niklasfi> tzio: does your computer output sound?
[12:13] <tzio> oh ya
[12:14] <DW-Drew> then the sound card is working
[12:14] <niklasfi> tzio: then you don't need drivers for that
[12:14] <MagNet> tzio, and the graphics card should just be the Restricted Drivers
[12:14] <blackarchan> i want to make a python script that install some apps how can i do this?
[12:14] <blackarchan> in bash im used to apt-get
[12:15] <vageesh> niklasfi:  when I click on additional drivers i dont see anything
[12:15] <MagNet> what graphics card do you have?
[12:15] <MagNet> Onboard graphics?
[12:17] <randomnewb> It's done with thumbnail generating but if I close nautilius there appears to be a memory leak.
[12:17] <MagNet> tzio i believe that your board has INtel Graphics, meaning its already installed
[12:17] <MagNet> vageesh, what card do you have?
[12:18] <vageesh> MagNet:  I have  a nvidia geforce 420  1gb
[12:18] <tzio> but its not the right drivers
[12:18] <tzio> is there a way to set the cpu core in ubuntu
[12:18] <niklasfi> tzio: what exactly do you meen by "set the cpu core in ubuntu"? the core voltage?
[12:18] <DW-Drew> tzio, what do you mean by 'set the cpu core'?
[12:19] <tzio> GA-990FXA-UD7
[12:20] <tzio> in windows u can set the core count in msconfig
[12:20] <Arizona_bay> how can i change the login picture in lucid lynx
[12:20] <tzio> can u do this in ub
[12:21] <DW-Drew> Um, the kernel detects the available cores and uses them automatically
[12:22] <niklasfi> tzio: do cat /proc/cpuinfo and tell me if that shows the right cpu-count
[12:23] <RM`raiden> moin
[12:23] <Arizona_bay> http://www.zimbio.com/Ubuntu+Linux/articles/3QDP9PPt1Ai/how+change+login+screen+background+Lucid+lynx
[12:24] <Arizona_bay> would this work?
[12:26] <tzio> thanks alot
[12:27] <Younder> Banshee crashes when several applications try to exist at the same time.  Race condition
[12:28] <Younder> Please fix this.
[12:29] <Lint> Younder, banshee is a gnome application and has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[12:29] <Younder> I accidentally double clicked a banshee icon and the second banshee crashed.
[12:30] <Younder> Lint: I should probably find the authors then yes..
[12:31] <hmax> Younder: use another media player.  I highly recommend mplayer2 ;-)
[12:32] <DW-Drew> rhythmbox is good too
[12:32] <Younder> hmax Never the less I am filing a report at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=banshee
[12:32] <hmax> Younder: good idea.
[12:32] <aguitel> install ubuntu server 10.04 is the same way desktop edition ?
[12:33] <Lint> rhythmbox has rotten developers, if any
[12:33] <DW-Drew> Lint: but it works, mostly
[12:36] <hmax> aguitel: not quite.  server has no desktop environment.
[12:38] <Younder> muelisoft.. quute
[12:39] <JernejL_Work> how do i shut down a daemon?
[12:40] <Younder> kinda reminds me of how Microsoft got it's name. It was Bill Gates wedding day and.. well You can guess the rest ;)
[12:40] <JernejL_Work> i want to remove mysql daemon / restart script without removing mysql
[12:41] <Younder> not funny huh
[12:42] <aguitel> hmax, yes i know but i can install it
[12:45] <rvalleb94> ciao
[12:45] <bazhang> !it | rvalleb94
[12:45] <rvalleb94> Hi
[12:45] <rvalleb94> !list
[12:46] <danileigh79> Why do people come in here looking for downloads? *facepalm*
[12:46] <blackarchan> how can i run apt-get install from a python script?
[12:46] <Younder> blackarchan, using the system command?
[12:47] <blackarchan> os.system?
[12:47] <Younder> JernejL_Work, you need to go into /etc/init.d dir and find the mysql file then issue a mysql --restart
[12:48] <JernejL_Work> i don't want a restart
[12:48] <JernejL_Work> i want to shut down the daemon only
[12:48] <JernejL_Work> i'm using mysqld_multi
[12:48] <JernejL_Work> and the daemon is making a mess
[12:48] <JernejL_Work> trying to boot up something that always fails
[12:48] <Younder> blackarchan, using the system command?
s hutdown then
[12:49] <jatt> how do I fix this? http://codepad.org/ucB94M6v
[12:49] <crality> Hello. Is there an easy way of getting GCC 4.7.0 for Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:49] <AndyUbuntu> Afternoon Everyone :)
[12:49] <blackarchan> Younder: os.system("apt-get install ") but i heard thats not verry good
[12:49] <DW-Drew> AndyUbuntu, o/
[12:50] <arnsa> what program should I use to burn .img file to DVD?
[12:50] <AndyUbuntu> I have just recently created an mp3 file and it has auto generated th cover art. Does anyone know a simple way to change that?
[12:50] <JernejL_Work> Younder:
[12:51] <danileigh79> AndyUbuntu: what program?
[12:51] <JernejL_Work> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[12:51] <JernejL_Work> job, but shutdown is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[12:51] <AndyUbuntu> I created it with audacity
[12:51] <Younder> crality, yes, install the source in /usr/local/src and build it ./configure then make and make install. That should put it in /usr/local/bin which superseder /usr/bin
[12:51] <arnsa> what program should I use to burn .img file to DVD?
[12:51] <ikonia> clone1018: I would strongly advise against that
[12:51] <ikonia> clone1018: oops, sorry not you
[12:51] <AndyUbuntu> I dont mind which application to use for changing the cover art
[12:51] <ikonia> crality: I would advise against you doing that
[12:51] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now my neighbours hate me. I need help with audio volume settings. Everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm's login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[12:52] <danileigh79> Andy, any program should allow you to change it
[12:52] <Younder> ikonia, It works as long as you don't try to recreate any ubuntu source.
[12:52] <ikonia> Younder: I would not recommend that at all,
[12:52] <danileigh79> arnsa: I'm using k3b
[12:53] <AndyUbuntu> danileigh79, i may sound like a complete noob. I have looked at vlc and cant see where i can do that. It is worth importing it with a music player then changing it?
[12:53] <Younder> ikonia, Are you a C programmer?
[12:53] <crality> Younder: thank you
[12:54] <Younder> crality, Hold on, I would like to see what Ikonia has to say about this.
[12:54] <danileigh79> AndyUbuntu: honestly, I keep all my music files either on my WinXP partition or on my WinXPMC laptop... then I use iTunes or WinAMP to change art cover
[12:55] <AndyUbuntu> oh ok, thanks. I use clementine and will change it through there :)
[12:55] <AndyUbuntu> thanks
[12:55] <danileigh79> AndyUbuntu: good luck hun
[12:56] <imanc> how can I initilise the the locate databae?
[12:56] <AndyUbuntu> lol, sure it will be simple. It is audio to distribute
[12:56] <AndyUbuntu> so that the reason for changing it
[12:57] <Younder> imanc, what database?
[12:57] <imanc> the locate database
[12:57] <danileigh79> AndyUbuntu: have fun is what I meant to sa lol still having my first cup of coffee hun
[12:58] <imanc> I have just installed locate, apt-get install locate, but at least on OSX it then needs to build a search database of all the files on the HDD, before it'll return anything
[12:58] <Younder> imanc, your whole file system is a database.. You have to be more specific.
[12:58] <imanc> Younder: when I type on terminal.. "locate mysql_config" it returns nothing
[12:58] <bazhang> Younder, he was. the locate db
[12:59] <jmoerk> imanc: I think you are looking for the updatedb command
[12:59] <Younder> imanc, ohh, updatedb
[12:59] <imanc> jmoerk: yeh, excellent. Cheers.
[12:59] <jmoerk> no worries :D
[12:59] <AndyUbuntu> danileigh79 lol ok. Enjoy
[13:00] <Younder> locate is pretty cource though, try which and whereis before locate imanc
[13:00] <imanc> Younder: yeh which hasn't helped as it's not on any path.  I've also tried find . -name "mysql_config" but no dice
[13:01] <tjiggi_fo> imanc, slocate -u
[13:01] <Younder> everythime I try locate I get a flood of mathces
[13:01] <imanc> ah
[13:02] <danileigh79> update-manager has stopped durring the action "configuring flashplugin-installer" Anyone have any tricks on making it start again?
[13:02] <Younder> imanc, google it instead[PDF]
[13:02] <Younder> How to install/configure MySQL Database
[13:02] <AndyUbuntu> does cover art need to be a specific size?
[13:03] <imanc> Younder: yeh, mysql server is installed. Very odd. Typically it's lingering as a symlinked item in /usr/bin. But not this time. Hm
[13:03] <danileigh79> Andy, no, most programs will auto resize it if it's too big
[13:03] <Younder> imanc, The symlink thing is just a form of version control
 or too small..
[13:05] <danileigh79> imanc: I have locate, have used updatedb, and searched for files, it works fine, maybe file doesn't exist?
[13:05] <danileigh79> Younder: indeed
[13:05] <imanc> danileigh79: yes, that's what I think now.
[13:06] <danileigh79> brb/ smoke break
[13:07] <LjL> Younder: superseding the installed version of GCC is in all likelihood a Bad Idea(tm). if anything, they should install the new version either in a place not in $PATH or with a different name, to only call it when needed.
 well I use postgreSQL qhich I recommend above MySql
[13:08] <Younder> LjL, yes, but intsalling it will default tu /usr/local/bin leaving the default installation alone
[13:09] <Younder> LjL, If you get in trouble just remove the link in /usr/local/bin
[13:09] <LjL> Younder: it will, but it means whenever anything tries to call "gcc", the one in /usr/local will run, and that's not very good. Ubuntu packages of various versions of GCC installs binaries like "gcc-x.x" instead
[13:11] <Younder> LjL, true, and indeed just deleteing /usr/local/bin/gcc will leave the gcc with the newest version there so that is probalby what you whould do
[13:12] <Younder> LjL, The link not the program..
[13:13] <Lint> well I would still like to know a 'proper' method for package uninstlling without affecting on-disk files
[13:14] <Younder> LjL, run a which gcc. If only /usr/bin/gcc occurs your fine
[13:15] <ikonia> Lint: you don't uninstall a package without removing the files from the disk, that's the point of uninstalling a package
[13:15] <Younder> Lint, by it's nature you can never uninstall without affecting disk files.. make sense
[13:15] <LjL> Lint: there's simply no "proper" method.
[13:16] <Lint> ikonia, point of uninstalling package is that it was marked as 'uninstalled' in dpkg database
[13:16] <ikonia> Lint: correct, that means removing the package and files
[13:16] <LjL> Lint: seriously, don't start this again. you've been told a number of times it can't be done "properly". you are of course free to modify the status information manually or re-install the files manually, but that's against all recommendations from here.
[13:17] <Lint> it's not for discussion, as rpm has well-documented option which does the same
[13:17] <ikonia> Lint: no it doesn't
[13:17] <Younder> Ikonia: some packages are a bit more sloppy than others. for instance I still have a /etc/mysql even thogh I removed mysql
[13:17] <ikonia> Lint: and as you are not using rpm it doesn't matter if rpm can do it or not
[13:17] <ikonia> Younder: that can be by design, it depend on the package layout
[13:18] <llutz> Lint: why would you do this nonsense?
[13:18] <LjL> Lint: and APT doesn't. period.
[13:18] <Younder> Ikonia: alien can handle rpm on a ubuntu machine. Though I don't recommend it
[13:18] <gr81> how do I watch this live stream with vlc media player? http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/livestreams/index.html
[13:18] <ikonia> Younder: no, that's nothing to do with what's being discussed here
[13:18] <llutz> Younder: alien converts rpm packages, not more
[13:19] <Younder> llutz, I never claimed it was anything more.. or so I thought
[13:19] <Lint> llutz, because if a certain package is 'broken', the entire apt is paralyzed
[13:20] <ikonia> Lint: no it's not you don't install (or you install and remove broken packages)
[13:20] <llutz> Lint: better to repair the packae than to use this stupid hacks
[13:20] <Younder> apt-get is the thing to use. I have hever had it break
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> gr81  click Windows media, copy link location, paste in vlc
[13:20] <ikonia> Lint: I think this discusion is done - you cannot remove a package from the apt database without removing the actual package using "proper" methods.
[13:21] <Younder> Ikonia. Ahh. He manually deleted it! a deadly sin!
[13:21] <danileigh79> rpm and dpkg can both be installed, and user can decide which to use, correct?
[13:21] <ikonia> danileigh79: no
[13:21] <llutz> danileigh79: no
[13:22] <gr81> MonkeyDust: thank you. when I click on windows media, just nothing happens
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> gr81  it worked for me
[13:22] <danileigh79> so if ubuntu 11.10 has dpkg by default, what happens if you install rpm?
[13:22] <ikonia> danileigh79: yo don't
[13:22] <ikonia> you don't
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> gr81  windows media, then right click on the stream
[13:22] <jpds> danileigh79: You're going to have a fun time managing system consistency.
[13:23] <llutz> danileigh79: you can install rpm but it won't do what you expect. it won't replace dpkg and the package-database, so you cannot use simply rpm after this.
 no ubuntu and debian use a different package manager from redhat. Mixing the is a very bad idea as the don't agree on where to install things
[13:23] <ikonia> Younder: it's nothing to do with not agreeing where to install things
[13:23] <danileigh79> k, thx all
[13:24] <danileigh79> If a program is only available in rpm format, is there a way to dl it, then convert it to be used in dpkg?
[13:24] <LjL> danileigh79: "alien", but it may not always work.
[13:24] <Younder> Ikonia: would you elaborate? That sound just plain wrong to me.
[13:24] <ikonia> danileigh79: not really no, as the contents are normally designed for rpm based systems (eg: redhat)
[13:24] <ikonia> Younder: then you don't understand how the package managment systems work.
[13:25] <LjL> Younder, ikonia: well, a part of it *is* about agreeing where to install things. but there's more pressing parts, like agreeing on package names (for dependencies), and not stomping on each other's feet
[13:25] <Younder> Ikonia: I take it I's the version bit which is the problem?
[13:25] <gr81> MonkeyDust: thank you so much! the problem was that I am using Gnash atm. I clicked on "inspect element" in firefox and copied the url
[13:25] <gr81> works now
[13:25] <ikonia> Younder: part of it, but also the internal dependency database, and the content of the packages
[13:26] <Younder> Ikonia: Well yes, I know they are not compatible
[13:27]  * Lint tries to recall the name of popular distribution which doesn't track dependencies at all...
[13:27] <crizzy> sl*cough*ackware
[13:27] <ikonia> Lint: doesn't really matter
[13:28] <Younder> Ikonia: Never the less. OSF has the source. So If you know what you are doing you can probably make it work anyhow
[13:29] <mgolisch> Lint: lfs?
[13:29] <mgolisch> :)
[13:29] <gr81> Lint: Slackware.
[13:30] <tensorpudding> danileigh79, there is alien, but it's not recommended
[13:30] <jpds> Lint: Quite irrelevant, as this is an Ubuntu channel.
[13:30] <Younder> tensorpudding, We've established that
[13:30] <neko1> hi, i use ubuntu 11.10 64bit all up tu date. yesterday i tryed to get my dvb-t stick to work. since the system installed linux-firmware-nonfree 1.11 64bit my wireless and bluetooth won't work. someone knows this problem or knows the solution?
[13:31] <tensorpudding> i missed that part, sorry
[13:31] <danileigh79> tensorpudding: I got the picture, but thanks... friend of mine who isn't entirely all that bright suggested I install rpm to install a rpm based package
[13:32] <ljsoftnet> is there an application to show, notification items, in a window?
[13:32] <danileigh79> neko1: what wifi driver? can't help with bluetooth, but I may know the wifi solution
[13:33] <neko1> bloothoth is not interessting for me but wifi
[13:33] <neko1> it's a broadcom
[13:33] <neko1> 43xx
[13:33] <danileigh79> nek, I can help
[13:33] <danileigh79> neko1: I can help I have the same issue
[13:33] <neko1> oh please
[13:34] <neko1> in the german channel i can't get help
[13:34] <danileigh79> neko1: first, dl tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[13:34] <neko1> ok
[13:34] <danileigh79> neko1: sorry, dl broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[13:36] <danileigh79> neko1: then extract, followed by command sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[13:36] <danileigh79> neko1: then sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[13:36] <roger_> hello to all
[13:37] <danileigh79> neko1: then sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb
[13:37] <roger_> i need help please
[13:37] <danileigh79> neko1: then sudo modprobe b43
[13:37] <danileigh79> roger_: just ask your question
[13:38] <roger_> how do i install mac theme on ubunthu 11.10
[13:38] <danileigh79> neko1: then you'll need to sudo gedit modules, and place "b43" and save, once you reboot, wifi should work
[13:38] <ikonia> roger_: it's not something you really want to do, I assure you
[13:38] <danileigh79> roger_: there are "themes" you can install, but not recommended
[13:38] <roger_> y not
[13:39] <ikonia> roger_: the themes are normally badly implemented and use software packages that are either not great, or not installed cleanly
[13:39] <danileigh79> roger_: what exactly are you trying to get out of installing a macosx theme?
[13:39] <danileigh79> roger_: if you want a dashboard, there are screenlets that do the same thing
[13:39] <roger_> looks better
 unity IS a mac osx theme!!
[13:40] <danileigh79> roger_: Ubuntu wasn't built to look like MacOSX
[13:40] <neko1> danileigh79: thx for help :)
[13:40] <Lint> isn't aqua theme copyrighted?
[13:40] <roger_> ok ok i get it thanks
[13:40] <neko1> will try as soon as i'm home
[13:40] <danileigh79> neko1: anytime, I spent weeks trying to figure this out, glad I could help
[13:40] <plist> test
[13:41] <roger_> so wer to get free themes
[13:41] <danileigh79> Younder: Unity in it's Ubuntu form is still Ubuntu... trying to make a linux system look like a Mac is absurd
[13:41] <mercy> ..
[13:42] <Lint> danileigh79, but you can show off with it...
[13:42] <craigbass1976> I wiped a drive.  The drive I copied the files to before I wiped it decided that now was the time to die.  I had already reinstalled an operating system on the wiped drive.  Can I somehow get some of those files back?
 I liked Unix better when it was just X windows. Ok Athena widgets left a lot to be desired, but gnome didn't
[13:42] <danileigh79> Lint: if I wanted to show off my Linux system to look like a mac, I would by a mac...
[13:42] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[13:43] <roger_> im new to the linux thing
[13:43] <Younder> Yes, sigh, lets
[13:43] <bazhang> !themes | roger_
[13:43] <craigbass1976> join #ubuntu-griping  :)
[13:44] <danileigh79> Younder: If you want power, go for Linux, if you want style, go for Mac or Win... This lappy is Ubuntu because I wanted to learn a linux system... Not impress people
[13:44] <roger_> thank u give it a shot
[13:44] <Younder> Roger_: well welcome to our wonderful world. You are most welcome.
[13:44] <craigbass1976> roger_, did you find themes, or are you still waiting for an answer?
[13:44] <roger_> still looking on site
[13:45] <roger_> ok now for installing part
[13:45] <neko1> bye
[13:45] <roger_> thx younder
[13:46] <roger_> what app should i use to install
[13:46] <plist> admin
[13:46] <Younder> roger_, well don't install a theme. Stick with the standard one.
[13:47] <danileigh79> roger_: install with whichever program the theme recommends, that's why we said it's not recommended...
[13:47] <roger_> i just want to try it
[13:47] <Younder> roger_, or do, but back up first, because you are setting yourself up for a wrld of grief. Unity is FAr from stable. You have been warned.
[13:48] <Lint> what's ubuntu raster fonts supported formats?
[13:48] <danileigh79> roger_: for once, I agree with Younder, you have been warned...
[13:48] <UndergrounD> having trouble installing python 2.7
[13:48] <roger_> k il take your word for it
[13:48] <plist> am i in?
[13:49] <roger_> wow what a group of nice ppl:) thank u all
[13:49] <danileigh79> roger_: sorry we couldn't help you do what you wanted to do, but it's for the best because Unity does not like external themes
[13:50] <OerHeks> UndergrounD, in what ubuntu version ?
[13:50] <UndergrounD> 11.10
[13:50] <roger_> ok how do i get games?
[13:50] <OerHeks> UndergrounD, 11.10 has standard python 2.7.2 installed
[13:50] <Lint> roger_, like?
[13:50] <danileigh79> roger, Ubuntu software center, or find binaries
[13:50] <roger_> fifa 2012
[13:51] <Squarism> Why isnt "top"'s cpu idle value = 100 - (sum-of-processes-cpu-utilization) ??
[13:51] <Squarism> its not even near
[13:51] <roger_> ubuntu is better than windows
[13:51] <UndergrounD> My bad tks oerheks
[13:51] <ikonia> roger_: those sort of games don't exist on Linux
[13:52] <danileigh79> roger_: If it hasn't been released for Linux, you can either dl it and run in wine, or find someone that has built a linux version
[13:52] <ikonia> roger_: Linux is not really a gaming platform at the moment.
[13:52] <danileigh79> roger_: and I'm betting it hasn't been released for lilnux
[13:52] <Younder> My statistics tells me that 60% of you don't have a viable backup. Sure you have a backup, but it won't  work
[13:52] <ikonia> roger_: it hasn't EA don't make games for linux
[13:53] <roger_> ok thanks  wow u learn every day
[13:53] <ikonia> Younder: please keep the pointless comments out.
[13:53] <danileigh79> roger_: Linux isn't what you would call a :gaming" or "entertainment" OS
[13:54] <roger_> how do i use iphone as modem on linux can it be done/
[13:54] <danileigh79> roger_: who is your cell provider?
[13:54] <roger_> 8ta
[13:54] <Younder> ikonia, that is FAR from pointless. And I got it from The Linux administration handbook.
[13:54] <bazhang> Younder, stay on topic
[13:54] <danileigh79> roger_: 8ta? never heard... what6 country?
[13:55] <ikonia> Younder: it's random and has no relevence to the discussion
[13:55] <roger_> South Africa
[13:55] <Lint> what are ubuntu raster fonts supported formats?
[13:55] <danileigh79> roger_: you'll have to check the app store, I know it's not possible to do it in US
[13:55] <roger_> then i dont think it can be done in sa
[13:55] <danileigh79> roger_: may have to jb the iphone to do it too
[13:56] <dfcnvt> Hello, can any of you tell me which software do you most use for ubuntu on VPN?
[13:56] <dfcnvt> I checked with 'apt-cache search vpn' and there's many.
[13:56] <compdoc> a vpn client, or server?
[13:56] <dfcnvt> client.
[13:56] <roger_> thanx dani
[13:57] <roger_> ill be back with more.
[13:57] <Younder> OK, you wan't games for Linux, not the ideal platform, Windows has more, but you might look here http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080510052539217/Games.html
[13:57] <dfcnvt> Huh, it's actually few, 'apt-cache search vpn client'
[13:58] <Younder> anyhow that's 47 for you
[13:58] <danileigh79> roger_: if you really want games, and don't care if their not "top developer" type games, go to Ubuntu Software Center
[13:58]  * dfcnvt scratching his head... Not sure which vpn client to use.
[13:59] <roger_> thanks will try
[14:00] <NetRunnerBlack> Where are the default file icons located?
[14:00] <dfcnvt> compdoc: Which vpn client do you most?
[14:00] <dfcnvt> use*
[14:01] <compdoc> dfcnvt, I only install vnc servers on ubuntu, and use a windows client. Its early in the US, so if you dont get any answers now, wait a few hours and ask again
[14:01] <Younder> dfcnvt, That is too obvious almost to answer NFS
[14:01] <danileigh79> I really hate update-manager sometimes...
[14:02] <roger_> {danileigh} wer you from
[14:03] <craigbass1976> I might have found the answer to my earlier question.  Does anyone know if photorec will find older files even though I've installed an OS on the disk?
[14:03] <playit> Hey, I can't really figure out how to word this.. How do I get an application to go back to the way it opened the first time I opened it? Like back to the same size and position
[14:04] <ezio> anyone know why ubuntu isn't running my cpu fan enough?
[14:04] <Younder> compdoc, we are about 700 Million people in Europe you know..
[14:04] <danileigh79> playit: prolly reinstall
[14:04] <playit> lol
[14:04] <playit> sadface
[14:04] <compdoc> Younder, good, then ask those 700 million to help dfcnvt
[14:05] <danileigh79> brb/ smoke break
[14:05] <Dwade09> i got a folder on my dekstop that doesnt show inder cd in terminal and its not hidden.
[14:05] <playit> i know it sounds like a dumb question but Im thinking there has to be some keybinding that does it or config file that can be erased.. I want to either cascade the windows or make them back and perfect like they were the first time I opened.. I use gnome
[14:05] <Younder> compdoc, I have goolgle for that
[14:06] <compdoc> Younder, sounds like Europe is asleep
[14:06] <playit> wait a second! sounds like a gnome question
[14:06] <playit> durrr
[14:06] <playit> #gnome
[14:06] <Younder> compdoc, It does oesan't it, google didn't turn up squat
[14:06] <martian> playit: most applications will store their settings in either ~/.applicationname or ~/.config/applicationname
[14:06] <Younder> compdoc, sorry my bad
[14:08] <Younder> compdoc, In fact I can't find anything on  dfcnvt
[14:09] <compdoc> Younder, dfcnvt is a person in here asking for help
[14:09] <Younder> compdoc, It doesn't exist om my disk.. and I have a LOT of programs.
[14:09] <Masterlorn> Hey
[14:10] <Younder> compdoc, Now that makes more sense
[14:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[14:10] <compdoc> heh
[14:10] <cristian_c> I'm using Oneiric Ocelot 11.10, I purchased an asus WL-330gE. The device shields the connection to the router, unfortunately I have to first establish a direct connection to the router, and then the computer automatically snaps to a repeater. But if the PC tries to connect to the router via the repeater, it fails
[14:10] <Dwade09> how do i get rid of the folder untitled? http://imagebin.org/199392 it shows this http://imagebin.org/199393
[14:10] <cristian_c> the network manager tries to connect several times, but it fails to connect. So I updated the firmware to the latest version, from version 2.0.1.9 to 2.0.2.0, but unfortunately the problem persists
[14:10] <cristian_c> What can I do to solve the problem?
[14:11] <Younder> compdoc: cant find a person with that name of this group either
[14:12] <Masterlorn> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 yesterday and got somehow onto the desktop after several graphic failures when I wanted to start the OS. Now I have the ATI Radeon driver installed over the Terminal, but when I choose Ubuntu it just does those graphic fails.
[14:12] <Younder> compdoc: ok found him
[14:12] <martian> cristian_c: that's strange. Are you able to delete other folders?
[14:12] <Dwade09> how do i get rid of the folder untitled? http://imagebin.org/199392 it shows this http://imagebin.org/199393
[14:12] <Masterlorn> I have it installed next to Windows 64 bit Version
[14:12] <bazhang> Masterlorn, black screen?
[14:13] <Masterlorn> short
[14:13] <Masterlorn> after those fails
[14:13] <Masterlorn> seems like theres no signal then
[14:13] <Younder> compdoc: he is very private...
[14:13] <cristian_c> martian, thanks for the answer
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Dwade09  try rm -r
[14:14] <Masterlorn> there is the fail then it gets black and my screen is going into stand by modus
[14:14] <Dwade09> MonkeyDust: i have
[14:14] <Dwade09> MonkeyDust:  inside the terminal it shows just the music folder and the untitled folder not the untitled.
[14:14] <playit> Martian: thanks
[14:14] <Anomie21> Is there an easy fix for unity popping up everytime I try and hit the back button in firefox yet?
[14:14] <Dwade09> MonkeyDust:  says that untitled does not exsist
[14:15] <martian> cristian_c: um, wasn't really an answer.
[14:15] <cristian_c> martian, But I did not understand what we are talking about folder :(
[14:15] <martian> Anomie21: go back to 11.04 :)
[14:15] <Anomie21> martian: but I don't wanna :(, Is it fixed in 12.04?
[14:15] <melvincv> cristian_c, who configured the routers for you?
[14:15] <Younder> Dwade09, The easiest was is to left click on background. Then select change background. And choose a different image.
[14:16] <martian> cristian_c: oh sorry, I responded to the wrong person!
[14:16] <Squarism> My 11.10 install of ubuntu amd64 is just damn horrible... all of a sudden it just totally stalls. Has anyone else experianced this shit?
[14:16] <Masterlorn> yep
[14:16] <Younder> Dwade09, The easiest was is to RIGHT click.. sorry
[14:16] <bazhang> Squarism, no cursing here
[14:16] <cristian_c> melvincv, I've configured it
[14:16] <Dwade09> Younder:  whats that have to do with my folder being there and not showing in terminal and cant get rid fo that middle folder?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Squarism  start from the beginning, what have you done and tried before you cale here
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> came*
[14:16] <Masterlorn> bazhang: can you help me?
[14:16] <playit> seriously though.. has anyone ever realized how much having a nice background like the ubuntu purple mac looking one and keeping 1 window per workspace and being able to see the background
[14:17] <martian> Dwade09: sounds like a bug. Have you tried logging out and in?
[14:17] <Squarism> MonkeyDust, i try using top.. looking at cpu, processes and memory
[14:17] <bazhang> Masterlorn, tried nomodeset?
[14:17] <playit> improves your mood and psych
[14:17] <Squarism> MonkeyDust, it just doesnt really tell what is bad
[14:17] <bazhang> !nomodeset | Masterlorn
[14:17] <Younder> Dwade09, Persumably nothing, but that is not what you asked.
[14:17] <roger_> any1 got any dj software
[14:17] <martian> playit: I like black =D
[14:17] <Dwade09> martian no i havent,
[14:17] <Masterlorn> bazhang: where? i can press E or C
[14:17] <Younder> Dwade09, Have you tried to reboot?
[14:17] <Dwade09> uh Younder  you need to relook at what i have asked, yes that is what i asked about the folder.
[14:18] <bazhang> Masterlorn, did you read the link?
[14:18] <cristian_c> melvincv, connection provider has provided the router to me
[14:18] <Masterlorn> ah
[14:18] <melvincv> !mixxx
[14:18] <Masterlorn> sry didnt saw that
[14:18] <Squarism> This is how my top looks http://pastebin.com/MRCyNeVN
[14:18] <martian> Dwade09: a logout/login should clear it. give that a try.
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> !info mixxx | melvincv
[14:18] <Masterlorn> bazhang: thanks im gonna try it out
[14:18] <playit> seriously ctrl alt shift and move this window to a blank workspace.. I feel like having everything fullscreen like i used to do was like being in a room with no windows
[14:19] <Dwade09> martian the logging in and out got rid of it
[14:19] <Squarism> -> MonkeyDust
[14:19] <Squarism> http://pastebin.com/MRCyNeVN
[14:19] <Younder> Dwade09, ok that Can not display ... message
[14:19] <playit> Martian: I used to make everything black.. dunno why..
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> Squarism  glad you found it
[14:19] <playit> anyways im done with the off topic thanks for the help
[14:19] <melvincv> !info mixxx | roger_
[14:19] <Dwade09> martain that fixed it,
[14:20] <varikonniemi> hello, i got this happen all of a sudden: mdadm[1382]: Rebuild20 event detected on md device /dev/md/0
[14:20] <cristian_c> martian, it is a long time I'm trying to solve, but I do not know what to do :(
[14:20] <varikonniemi> what can have cause it?
[14:20] <martian> Dwade09: sounds like a bug, but I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you can figure out exactlty how to make it happen again.
[14:20] <Squarism> MonkeyDust, i havent found out why my computer behaves like a 386 with 640k ram
[14:20] <Younder> Squarism, ouch
[14:20] <kpas_> when upgrading to 11.10 and I want to keep gnome do I need to install both of these pakages or one - gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[14:20] <Squarism> Younder, what?
[14:21] <playit> oh and btw 1 more thing.. how many of you are using gnome 3.2? Unity froze both of my laptops
[14:21] <Squarism> Younder, could you see something?
[14:21] <roger_> im looking for different linux which is the best
[14:21] <Younder> Squarism, slow as molassis
[14:21] <tumppu> i love gnome3
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot | roger_
[14:21] <playit> dude roger_ don't even waste your time
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> roger_  Mint is very popular, these days
[14:21] <Squarism> Younder, yeah.. sporradically it stops responding almost... ui doesnt move at all
[14:21] <playit> I just did one of those .. im fed up with ubuntu try the alternatives
[14:21] <bazhang> roger_, this is ubuntu support. please stay on topic
[14:22] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, please dont recommend MINT here
[14:22] <playit> And I ended up coming back to ubuntu with some extra goodies ( Gnome 3.2 from my toying with Fedora )
[14:22] <roger_> which version of Ubuntu is the best
[14:22] <playit> web apps with epiphany after toying with Joli OS
[14:23] <cristian_c> melvincv, do you have some ideas on how to solve the problem?
[14:23] <Younder> Squarism, Sounds like a interrupt conflict. What device drivers are installed. say lsusb
[14:23] <melvincv> roger_, the latest, as it is with any other OS
[14:23] <compdoc> roger_, the newest version
[14:23] <b0ot> Where do I put .ko files to run at startup
[14:23] <b0ot> so I don't have to do insmod foo.ko
[14:24] <playit> Mint after realizing it was imo a cheap fork of ubuntu .. i mean come on.. ' we have no startup images because its designed that way.. its better because  it looks the same across all.. STFU you know your just too lazy to make a startup image different than ubuntu so you just deleted it and said it was a feature lol
[14:24] <roger_> im using 11.04 which should i use
[14:24] <melvincv> cristian_c, sorry
[14:24] <Younder> b0ot, you don't. use apt-get install
[14:24] <b0ot> Younder, what do mean
[14:24] <playit> the login screen and default themes in MINT are ugly as all too
[14:24] <b0ot> apt-get install foo.ko?
[14:24] <playit> what do you not like about 11.04?
[14:24] <Younder> b0ot, sudo apt-get install package.
[14:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> b0ot what are you ismodding
[14:25] <b0ot> custom serial drivers
[14:25] <cristian_c> melvincv, ok, I'll wait a bit :)
[14:25] <b0ot> it's not in apt-get
[14:25] <sungji> hi! I have a tar.gz file "hello.tar.gz", and tar -xzvf ./hello.tar.gz will extract its contents to ./hello/somefolder ...   How can I extract the contents of hello.tar.gz  into a folder "bye", such that the path is "bye/somefolder" and not "bye/hello/somefolder"  ?
[14:25] <chlame`45639> ciao
[14:25] <chlame`45639> !list
[14:25] <Younder> b0ot, there are no custum serial drivers. NVIDEA has it's own custom driver yes
[14:26] <Younder> But that is graphics
[14:26] <bigtom21485> why would my laptop no longer have wifi after updating to 11.10?
[14:26] <Younder> bigtom21485, It does.
[14:27] <philinux> bigtom21485: Whats the make of laptop
[14:27] <Younder> bigtom21485, It does. Have you checked this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[14:27] <b0ot> Younder, this is something I had to compile myself
[14:27] <b0ot> you can't apt-get install it
[14:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> b0ot look at http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/ko - but you proabbly want to do it another way
[14:28] <Younder> B0ot: well do you have the source. I am pretty good at C!
[14:28] <playit> anyone use a self hosted dropbox type thing?
[14:28] <NetRunnerBlack> how do you check the version in terminal?
[14:29] <bazhang> NetRunnerBlack, the version of ubuntu?
[14:29] <overclucker> lol rootkit
[14:29] <NetRunnerBlack> bazhang: yes
[14:29] <playit> or better yet is the functionality built into ubuntu that I could do over local network?
[14:29] <bazhang> !version | NetRunnerBlack
[14:29] <Younder> B0ot: http://pastebin.com/archive/c
[14:29] <NetRunnerBlack> thank you
[14:30] <NetRunnerBlack> how do you change the ubuntu startup music?
[14:30]  * NetRunnerBlack is using 11.10 oneiric
[14:30] <Younder> NetRunnerBlack, http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/07/changing-startup-music-in-ubuntu.html
[14:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omByF8hD6EQ
[14:31] <playit> keeping folders synced over different computers so if one tanks I don't lose everything.. Is that considered safe? or is there a reason raid is > I remember reading about some auto cron job folder sync thing
[14:31] <linux_is_my_hero> why would my laptop not have wifi after being upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10?
[14:32] <bazhang> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/12/how-to-change-startup-sound-for-ubuntu.html NetRunnerBlack
[14:32] <playit> different linux kernel?
[14:32] <Younder> linux_is_my_hero, It would obviously. Whatis wrong with the driver. How old is your card?
[14:32] <backbox_> heloo
[14:33] <linux_is_my_hero> Younder: its connected via ethernet now.
[14:33] <linux_is_my_hero> i don't remember what card it is, does lspci tell me?
[14:33] <playit> sometimes things regress in kernel upgrades.. I'd try selecting another kernel from boot until you can find the solution
[14:33] <meskarune> playit: http://www.ifolder.com/ifolder is a drop box clone type thing, but for local file sharing you can just use samba
[14:34] <playit> that way your not confined to the desktop your on right now
[14:34] <NetRunnerBlack> bazhang: I tried that, I has issues with step 2. I typed system into the Dash Home and got a differant menu, Is there a differant way to access that menu they are talking about?
[14:34] <NetRunnerBlack> had*
[14:34] <Younder> lspci gives fine info on my machine
[14:34] <Squarism> Younder, http://pastebin.ca/2118534
[14:35] <linux_is_my_hero> playit: its a broadcom bcm4311
[14:35] <playit> meskarune: thanks is there any way to automate the transfers of CHANGED files?
[14:35] <Younder> Squarism, Microsoft Corp. Natural Ergonomic Keyboard
[14:35] <Younder> Squarism, now that's unusual
[14:36] <Squarism> Younder, =D
[14:36] <Squarism> Younder, Think theyve installed linux malware into it?
[14:36] <Younder> Squarism, https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-ubuntu/+bug/820873
[14:36] <playit> linux_is_my_hero: Im sure someone on here or the forums has more information I was just suggesting a temporary work-around if the old kernels show up at boot time
[14:37] <Younder> Squarism, nop, just a dud keyboard driver
[14:37] <NetRunnerBlack> bazhang: I also appreciate your patience, I know I'm a fumbling noob
[14:38] <Squarism> Sadly i dont think its related to htat
[14:39] <meskarune> playit: you could use rsync to sync folders and schedule that as a chron job
[14:40] <NetRunnerBlack> Does anyone know how to open up the system menu? The system settings one I get when I type 'sys' into Dash Home isn't working for what I need?
[14:42] <histo1> NetRunnerBlack: system settings?
[14:43]  * NetRunnerBlack is looking for one with the path System > Preferences > Sound
[14:43] <meskarune> playit: you coudl also check out unison. I've never used it, but I've heard good things: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[14:43] <histo1> NetRunnerBlack: right click on the volumke icon
[14:43] <NetRunnerBlack> histo1: No, that doesn't have what I'm looking for. I'm trying to change the .ogg that plays on login to a .wav I downloaded.
[14:43] <histo1> NetRunnerBlack: or gnome-control-center
[14:44] <NetRunnerBlack> histo1: Where can I find the gnome-control-center? I typed that in to Dash Home and just got System Settings again
[14:44] <meskarune> playit: here is a how to for rsync: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/synchronize_files_with_rsync/
[14:45] <Younder> NetRunnerBlack, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175090
[14:46] <Younder> NetRunnerBlack, It needs to be .ogg
[14:46] <MidnighToker> good afternoon. I'm trying to find a package for boost for ubuntu lucid, but it only seems to have the 1.40 version, apparently I need version 1.41 or greater. -So my question is, can I install a newer version of boost in older ubuntu or can I easily update the entire ubuntu install to one that supports boost ok please :)
[14:47] <fellayaboy> Hey im having a problem... I installed.some openbon junk on my box anf it created a user openvpn and openvpn_as so i sudo deluser openvpn and i tried sudo delgroup openvpn and it.gave me a message of it cant cuz user openvpn_as is the only user or something.like that but now i dont have access to nothing all o get os accessed denied
[14:47] <histo> NetRunnerBlack: i'm tyring to find what you need
[14:47] <NetRunnerBlack> Younder: Thanks. Should I just rename the file to desktop-login.ogg and delete the current sound?
[14:47] <NetRunnerBlack> histo:Thanks.
[14:48] <lurch_1> hi, trying to do apt-get-install sun-java6-jdk.. I added the repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner", did an apt-get update, but still no luck.. it's an installation procedure that is performed from inside some code, so it's not really something i can change easily. The procedure was working fine a day ago.. I see the timestamps on the Release file on http://archive.canonical.com/dists/lucid/ changed to today, so am wonderi
[14:48] <martian> fellayaboy: it sounds like you should have listened to the warnings. Boot up in to single user recovery mode and create a new user
[14:48] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know anything about why newer linux kernels make drivers stop working?
[14:48] <Younder> NetRunnerBlack, Heavens, you need to convert it to .ogg format first
[14:48] <histo> NetRunnerBlack: they are just calling an application on login. You can find this under your startup applications
[14:48] <Sach> Is there a user-friendly package that I can use in ubuntu 11.03 to create flash slideshows for my website?
[14:48] <fellayaboy> I already have my user...
[14:48] <NetRunnerBlack> Younder: I know :) I meant after converting it
[14:49] <fellayaboy> Mt username is kobra and i changed nothing on it
[14:49] <Younder> NetRunnerBlack, yes
[14:49] <calamity> Heya, just installed conky, looking to play with it, not sure where it's hiding
[14:50] <Nimanicka> Hej can i feed my fennec fox with horse meat ?
[14:50] <auronandace> calamity: type conky in the terminal, careful the default is ugly
[14:50] <fellayaboy> I dont even have access to reboot or shitdown my pc wow
[14:50] <kpas_> calamity, look for .conky
[14:50] <huangzheng> 888
[14:51] <Nimanicka> Or should i use cat food instead?
[14:51] <histo> calamity: it's a terminal app it doesn't have a gui
[14:51] <calamity> Ah okay.
[14:51] <histo> calamity: for configuration that it
[14:51] <martian> fellayaboy: well, something happened that is not allowing you to log in to that account. If you boot into single user mode, you can passwd that user
[14:51] <Younder> Nimanicka, Sure you can, all that will happen is you'll kill it. Seriously what has that gotta do with Ubuntu?
[14:51] <Nimanicka> He looks kinda sick
[14:51] <histo> calamity: it can be called in your startup applications. You can configure it by editing your ~/.conkyrc   If you use locate conkyrc  you should be able to find a sample in the documentation. Or look in /etc
[14:52] <Nimanicka> I dont know any other irc
[14:52] <Nimanicka> I dont know any other irc
[14:52] <Younder> Nimanicka, Well you sound kinds sick...
[14:52] <histo> !ot | Nimanicka
[14:53] <kpas_> calamity,  do you want a script that will start conky on startup
[14:53] <calamity> auronandace: you were right. it's butt ugly. actually, I have a cute butt. so it's... roadkill ugly.
[14:53] <fellayaboy> How dobi boot onto songle iser mode
[14:53] <calamity> kpas_: nah I can work that out, just was wondering if there was a conky gui, guess not though XD
[14:53] <NetRunnerBlack> histo Younder: Thanks so much guys!
[14:53] <fellayaboy> How do i boot into single user mode
[14:53] <martian> fellayaboy: when you boot up, grub gives you the option
[14:53] <Nimanicka> Younder Why you are so mean?
[14:53] <kpas_> calamity, yeah no GUI that I know of
[14:53] <martian> Nimanicka: perhaps you have something better to do with your time
[14:54] <Sach> Is there a user-friendly package that I can use in ubuntu 11.04 to create flash slideshows for my website?
[14:54] <fellayaboy> Ok i booted as root
[14:54] <calamity> fellayaboy: you shouldn't be on irc as root.
[14:54] <Nimanicka> No
[14:54] <auronandace> calamity: i think by default it uses /etc/conky/conk.conf as the config file
[14:54] <auronandace> conky.conf
[14:54] <Nimanicka> Not rly
[14:54] <fellayaboy> Im not on irc from pc
[14:54] <Nimanicka> Who played In skyrim?
[14:54] <Myrtti> MidnighToker: in general it is not adviced that you install a newer version from a newer Ubuntu, let me have look on other options
[14:54] <calamity> Ah.
[14:55] <auronandace> Nimanicka: stop the off-topic talk please
[14:55] <Nimanicka> Btw there is me3 demo
[14:55] <fellayaboy> I get openvpn_as still has openvpn_as as thier primery group!
[14:55] <Myrtti> Nimanicka: did you have Ubuntu related question or a problem or are you looking for a general chat channel?
[14:55] <Nimanicka> Its same ot like conky
[14:55] <fellayaboy> When i try delete openvpn as
[14:55] <calamity> Sach: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060304 but please think twice before using flash. I never use it in webdesign, look for alternatives, via css
[14:56] <martian> fellayaboy: delete the user first
[14:56] <petrovv> what is a default/convenient GUI password generator for Ubuntu?
[14:56] <Nimanicka> Actualy conky got nothing To do with ubu so how that ot is ok and mine is not?
[14:56] <Nimanicka> Actualy conky got nothing To do with ubu so how that ot is ok and mine is not?
[14:56] <auronandace> Nimanicka: this is a support channel, telling someone how to use conky under ubuntu is support related, feeding foxes horse-meat isn't
[14:56] <NetRunnerBlack> Younder: I'm pretty sure I followed all the steps but the converter didn't work
[14:57] <fellayaboy> I did and then tried.to delete group and i got the same.message
[14:57] <martian> petrovv: there is one built in to the add user gui
[14:57] <calamity> auronandace: dem trolls, don't be feeding.
[14:57] <Sach> calamity thanks.  do you have any suggestions for css packages?
[14:57] <martian> fellayaboy: what does it say when you try to delete the user?
[14:58] <fellayaboy> I put deluser openvpnas  said openvonas has no more members cannot lock /rtc/passed
[14:58] <fellayaboy> Passwd i mean
[14:58] <calamity> Sach: packages? no. http://demo.tutorialzine.com/2009/11/beautiful-apple-gallery-slideshow/demo.html
[14:58] <Nimanicka> Are u rascist of some sort? The fact that im black is not ecsuse To be rude
[14:58] <NetRunnerBlack> Younder: Is that a converter that's worked in the past for you?
[14:59] <auronandace> bazhang: thanks
[14:59] <Bobenhaus> have you guys noticed alot of updates lately from the software manager?
[14:59] <martian> fellayaboy: what does "echo ~" print?
[14:59] <MidnighToker> Myrtti: hmm... lucid is the lts which is why i'm sticking with it for the server, but i'm happy to use a newer version if it comes to it. just wonder if I can do a nice and easy upgrade rather than starting from scratch
[14:59] <fellayaboy> It also says /usr/sbin/userdel openvon returned error code 1
[14:59] <bazhang> Nimanicka, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[15:00] <Nimanicka> What just happend?
[15:00] <fellayaboy> It says /root
[15:00] <Myrtti> MidnighToker: 12.04 LTS is only a few months away, if you're not in a huge hurry... :-/
[15:00] <compdoc> Nimanicka, no one cares, or even knows what your color is
[15:00] <liberal> Nimanicka: the same thing that is likely about to happen again
[15:01] <MidnighToker> Myrtti: its a home server rather than anything special. I'll have a look at upgrading it from lts and see how badly it all breaks :)
[15:01] <petrovv> Myrtti, it is possible to go from 10.04 to 12.04 directly?
[15:01] <Nimanicka> Bazhang u also dont like black bi sexual humans that u kicked me ?
[15:01] <calamity> I only just recenlty upgraded to 11.04
[15:01] <calamity> I like to hang back :p
[15:01] <Myrtti> petrovv: yes, once 12.04 is out.
[15:02] <auronandace> petrovv: yes, you can upgrade an lts to the next lts
[15:02] <petrovv> Myrtti, that's great news, I stick to 10.04 on this desktop for stability reasons
[15:02] <martian> fellayaboy: go in to your /etc folder and see if there file named passwd.lock, group.lock, or gshadow.lock
[15:02] <absence> can i install 32-bit libs on 64-bit ubuntu in order to compile 32-bit stuff?
[15:02] <theadmin> absence: Correct, the packagename (if I recall right) is ia32-libs
[15:03] <theadmin> !info ia32-libs | absence
[15:03] <theadmin> Bah
[15:03] <theadmin> Just a sec, I'll find it
[15:03] <petrovv> auronandace, if not for lack of updates I'd stay on 10.04 indefinitely - everything just works
[15:03] <auronandace> !find ia32
[15:03] <absence> hm
[15:03] <theadmin> absence: Yeah that's the right name... Apparently ubottu doesn't search through all packages
[15:04] <absence> i need libgdbm3
[15:04] <auronandace> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:05] <petrovv> talking about 12.04 - will they include Gnome 2.* as an option, or perhaps forked stuff like Cinnamon?
[15:05] <fellayaboy> I dont have .locj but -.or nothing aftet all of them
[15:05] <theadmin> petrovv: No, and no. Gnome2 is deprecated, Cinnamon might end up in the repos though. Please go to #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[15:05] <auronandace> petrovv: gnome2 is dead, 12.04 talk is in #ubuntu+1, i doubt they'll support cinnamon
[15:05] <fellayaboy> I have gshadow and gshadow-  rhe dame.forbpasswd and group
[15:05] <petrovv> oic
[15:06] <Nimanicka> Who like lady gaga?
[15:06] <fellayaboy> The same for passwd and group*
[15:06] <theadmin> petrovv: Cinnamon has an official PPA anyway so you can use that
[15:06] <rabbi11> i got 2 compiz settings manager, how can i remove both and then get a fresh install and fresh configuration for desktop?
[15:06] <absence> theadmin: how does this multiarch stuff work? ia32-libs-multiarch depends on the lib i want. if i apt-cache show it, it says "Multi-Arch: same"
[15:07] <theadmin> absence: I honestly have no idea, been using 32-bit systems my whole life to avoid the headache :D
[15:08] <rabbi11> i got 2 compiz settings manager, how can i remove both and then get a fresh install and fresh configuration for desktop?
[15:08] <MidnighToker> Myrtti: don't suppose you know of a recent ubuntu server openvz image?
[15:08] <NetRunnerBlack> Younder: I got it working
[15:08] <martian> fellayaboy: what's the output of "ls -la /etc/passwd"
[15:08] <fellayaboy> How is 64 bit now? R there.stikl issues
[15:08] <auronandace> fellayaboy: no issues for me
[15:10] <fellayaboy> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1767 date time /etc/passwd
[15:10] <martian> fellayaboy: well damn, I can't think of what else would cause this.
[15:10] <fellayaboy> Auro r there.progtams.that say they do.t function cuz of 64 bit
[15:11] <Supreme> Hey what's the download speed of ubuntu.com?
[15:11] <theadmin> Supreme: What do you mean?
[15:11] <theadmin> Supreme: ubuntu.com doesn't host images, only mirrors do (well, unless you count releases.ubuntu.com)
[15:12] <fellayaboy> Ima have to reinstall
[15:13] <auronandace> fellayaboy: there isn't a lot that doesn't work in 64bit
[15:13] <raffietaffie> Hello!
[15:13] <fellayaboy> I see
[15:13] <UndergrounD> i would like to clean up the dependency trees on my system.  I have been diving in head first  to linux and have installed and uninstalled many apps and also prformed many changes
[15:13] <Supreme> ?
[15:14] <absence> theadmin: aha! apt-get install libgdbm3:i386
[15:14] <UndergrounD> my system is now taking a long time to boot
[15:14] <martian> Supreme: "?" is not a question.
[15:14] <theadmin> absence: Now that's a confusing one
[15:14] <UndergrounD> i say long it still boots faster then windows
[15:14] <skar3> hi all
[15:15] <athul__> can anyone tell me how to extract a substring from a match using sed?
[15:15] <vimpulse> skar3:  hi.
[15:15] <vimpulse> athul__:  checked a sed tutorial already?  :)
[15:15] <martian> UndergrounD: having a bunch of unused libraries installed doesn't affect boot time. Those libs are only loaded by applications that request them.
[15:15] <athul__> yes
[15:15] <vimpulse> athul__:  which one?
[15:15] <UndergrounD> ok so most likely its some settings i have messed up
[15:15] <vimpulse> athul__:  also, what did you try, and what happened?
[15:15] <athul__> catonmat.net
[15:16] <athul__> what i'm trying to do is extract all the string between two strings and then print them out on separate line
[15:16] <UndergrounD> i can reinstall but im not going to learn  a whole lot from doing that
[15:17] <vimpulse> athul__:  I'm looking at http://www.catonmat.net/ (the homepage) but I don't see any sed tutorial.  :(
[15:17] <absence> theadmin: it installs 32-bit version of the libs on my 64-bit system. now i just need to figure out how to use them for compiling :P
[15:17] <athul__> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/sed-stream-editor-cheat-sheet/
[15:17] <martian> UndergrounD: if I had to guess, I would look for daemons that are trying to make network connections or something
[15:17] <calamity> okay conky is currently looking good, except there's a biiig gap between some of the elements. How would I remove any extra lines?
[15:17] <Younder> athul__, You need the 64 bit version
[15:18] <athul__> what ? :|
[15:18] <UndergrounD> ok tks ill chk
[15:18] <vimpulse> athul__:  cheat sheets are nice.  See also http://www.refcards.com/ . But you're new to sed, so you need a tutorial instead.  :)
[15:18] <Younder> athul__, 32 bit works under 64 bit but it's slow
[15:18] <auronandace> UndergrounD: maybe using the mini.iso will be interesting for you
[15:19] <vimpulse> Younder:  how much slower?  :)
[15:19] <Younder> athul__, like 32 bit flash is your only option, but you don't wanna rely on 32 bit libraries
[15:19] <Younder> vimpulse, roughly 30-50%
[15:20] <vimpulse> athul__:  "<Younder> athul__, You need the 64 bit version" was meant for theadmin.
[15:20] <athul__> I need to get this done ASAP. I tried: sed -n 's|<title>\(.*\)</title>|\n\1|p'. But it dosen't work
[15:20] <iceroot> athul__: #bash #sed
[15:20] <vimpulse> athul__:  ah -- you now told us what you tried, and what happened.  Thank you.  That's the first real step.
[15:21] <OY1R> q: im trying to install ubuntu on a small laptop from a USB drive but it hangs once the usb loads (i only see the "live cd" menu
[15:21] <vimpulse> athul__:  iceroot is right.  You may get help faster in #sed.
[15:21] <[snake]> I installed my system in french, but now my software center cannot choose to be in english(I swap between the two). How can I get Software center to switch to english in ubuntu 10.10 x86_64?
[15:21] <calamity> nevermind, got it
[15:21] <UndergrounD> sweet tks auro... going to give that a try
[15:21] <Ghrim> Hey, if I choose encrypted home when installing, what happens if I choose to install another distro later and want to keep my home?
[15:22] <vimpulse> [snake]:  try this in a terminal:  LANG= software-center
[15:22] <vimpulse> [snake]:  the "LANG= " makes sure the environment variable "LANG" is not set to French.
[15:22] <iceroot> Ghrim: its not a good idea to have one /home for different distributions
[15:22] <vimpulse> Ghrim:  dunno.  If you reinstall, back up your home directory to an unencrypted USB stick.  Why switch between distros?
[15:23] <vimpulse> Younder:  thank you.  30-50% slower to compile what sorts of things?
[15:23] <Ghrim> oh... i thought that was the point of having home on a separate partition?
[15:24] <Ghrim> and because I'm new to linux and i'm not sure what I want from a distro yet
[15:24] <[snake]> vimpulse, I got no output, should I type in english or something :D
[15:24] <vimpulse> Ghrim:  what *do* you want from a distro?  :)
[15:24] <vimpulse> [snake]:  try this instead, and please tell us what happens:  software-center
[15:24] <jpds> Ghrim: Just mount the encrypted partition from the other distro?
[15:25] <UndergrounD> it seems to be a tcl problem all this started after messing with an eggdrop
[15:25] <Ghrim> how does the encryption work? Do i need some kind of password for it?
[15:25] <jpds> Ghrim: Well, actually, that depends on which crypto method you use.
[15:25] <sweb> any command line tools for convert ttf to otf ?
[15:25] <Ghrim> I'm talking about the option in the normal installer
[15:25] <vimpulse> sweb:  dunno.  Why do you want to convert ttf to otf?
[15:25] <[snake]> vimpulse, the descritpions are still in french... perhaps I left that detail out accidentally: it's only the descriptions for packages before I hit more info that are in french.
[15:26] <Ghrim> whatever that one does
[15:26] <sweb> vimpulse: using font-face in web pages
[15:26] <vimpulse> [snake]:  apt-cache definitely holds English descriptions.  LANG= apt-cache show banshee
[15:26] <popey> Ghrim: if you choose the encryption option in the ubuntu installer you'll get an 'ecryptfs' encrypted home, not all distros use/support this method of encryption
[15:26] <vimpulse> [snake]:  does that solve your problem?
[15:27] <Masterlorn> ok
[15:27] <Masterlorn> now I can start ubuntu
[15:27] <Masterlorn> but I cant use my mouse
[15:27] <Masterlorn> its there
[15:27] <vimpulse> sweb:  dunno.  Try again here, if you don't get help after too long, tell #web that you want to use font-face in web pages, then ask them what else you can try.  Maybe there's some font converter online or something.  They can tell you what to try.
[15:27] <Masterlorn> and I can activate windows over the taskbar
[15:27] <Masterlorn> but on the actual workspace I cant do anything
[15:28] <vimpulse> Masterlorn:  you could enable Mouse Keys then use those all day :)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_keys
[15:28] <Ghrim> hmm I guess I'll just back up my home folder when i switch distro
[15:28] <vimpulse> Masterlorn:  just kidding.  Mouse Keys are really frustrating.
[15:28] <vimpulse> Ghrim:  good idea.
[15:28] <Masterlorn> _D
[15:28] <UndergrounD> hmmmmmmm seems to be the sharing of tcl to eggdrop    now to remove tcl and eggdrop am i better to use autoremove or --purge-remove
[15:28] <Masterlorn> :D
[15:29] <iceroot> UndergrounD: they are totally different
[15:30] <Masterlorn> has anybody a solution to solve that problem?
[15:31] <[snake]> Masterlorn, please explain your problem in one convenient message with all the necessary information in the future.
[15:31] <skamster> hello all, i've a little question about xorg.. i've yet both installed on my system, binary nvidia-drivers and nouveau.. i like to change to nouveau to use randr the right way.. since i've removed xorg.conf, randr works but don't detect the hdmi-output, so not the second screen
[15:32] <skamster> my xorg.0.log: /msg NickServ identify
[15:32] <vimpulse> skamster:  what command did you use to install binary nvidia drivers?  Hint:  history | less -i
[15:32] <UndergrounD> i want to completly remove both tcl and eggdrop and then ill reinstall im still a noob here but learning fast.    autoremove then?
[15:33] <skamster> what's confusing: it loads first nvidia, the nouveau.. then it detects both displays, couldn't set a mode for one and fail about that (it tells, it loads the deprecated nv)
[15:33] <Masterlorn> Ok I cant use my Mouse properly. It is there and I can move it but I cant click anything except from the Apps in the Toolbar on the left.  I use Win7 64 bit and I have Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit installed
[15:33] <vimpulse> skamster:  2.  also, why do you not want to use the regular nv driver?  :)
[15:33] <[snake]> well vimpulse, it's not working... It's simply outputting information about the application that I type such as "banshee"
[15:34] <vimpulse> [snake]:  that's what it should do.  :)
[15:34] <skamster> vimpulse, because of default-settings and a new graphic-card
[15:34] <skamster> ;)
[15:34] <vimpulse> Masterlorn:  does it work fine in Windows?  Note:  I am not claiming your problem.  :)
[15:34] <Masterlorn> never had any problems on windows :d
[15:34] <Masterlorn> :D
[15:34] <vimpulse> [snake]:  you wanted to see English descriptions, right?  Preferably in software-center, correct?
[15:34] <iceroot> UndergrounD: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[15:35] <iceroot> UndergrounD: autoremove is something different
[15:35] <[snake]> vimpulse, ah, i see now, thanks!
[15:35] <UndergrounD> ok thanks
[15:35] <vimpulse> [snake]:  you're welcome :)
[15:35] <Masterlorn> but my keyboard works fine btw
[15:35] <quiescens> purge does not do what a lot of people think it does
[15:35] <vimpulse> iceroot:  why use --purge ?
[15:35] <iceroot> vimpulse: to remove conffiles
[15:35] <skamster> no idea why it don't detect hdmi?
[15:35] <vimpulse> iceroot:  why?  The user may have edited their conffiles.  :)
[15:36] <iceroot> vimpulse: "conffile" has a different meaning for dpkg
[15:36] <iceroot> vimpulse: apt-get will NEVER remove configuration fils from /home/username/
[15:36] <vimpulse> iceroot:  for me, /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf is a conffile that I've edited.
[15:36] <Asifan> hello
[15:36] <iceroot> vimpulse: yes
[15:36] <vimpulse> Asifan:  hi :)
[15:36] <tom95> hi, I installed libsocialweb for using its dbus, but it doesnt show up in d-feet. Restarting didnt help either, do I have to run explicitly or something?
[15:36] <theadmin> vimpulse: apt-get remove won't touch that, apt-get purge will though
[15:36] <vimpulse> iceroot:  why would i ever want to remove it?  :)
[15:36] <Asifan> please some one help me with UBUNTU unstallation
[15:36] <iceroot> vimpulse: he said "how to remove foobar completly"
[15:36] <Asifan> installation
[15:37] <vimpulse> iceroot:  why did he want to remove it completely?  :)
[15:37] <iceroot> vimpulse: ask him
[15:37] <vimpulse> Asifan:  hi.  What is your first language?
[15:37] <litropy> I'm having a problem with possibly the video driver for my dvi out itself. When I'm in OS X, the picture is smooth. In Ubuntu on the same machine, it's choppy. Is there a better chan for this?
[15:37] <Asifan> english/arabic both are fine
[15:37] <iceroot> vimpulse: e.g. you want to remove them if you never need the package again, if you messed up with the configuration file
[15:38] <iceroot> vimpulse: and as i said already "conffile" has a special meaning for dpkg
[15:38] <iceroot> vimpulse: e.g. /etc/init.d/apache2 is a conffile  but you will never edit the file like /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[15:38] <alexeilevitsky> hi guys
[15:38] <alexeilevitsky> I have a problem
[15:39] <tensorpudding> !ask
[15:39] <iceroot> vimpulse: so understand what a conffile is maybe have a look at "divert" in the manpage from dpkg
[15:39] <alexeilevitsky> My Windows installation is in the same sda as another partition, what happens if i delete the ubuntu partition?
[15:39] <Bobenhaus> damn software update is taking forever wtf??!?
[15:39] <iceroot> vimpulse: also /etc/cron.d/awstats is a conffile and you will normally never edit that file
[15:40] <Bobenhaus> !wtf
[15:40] <vimpulse> Asifan:  welcome.  Please ask your question.  Please also tell us what you tried and what it did.  If it all fits on one line, then please don't press Enter in mid-question.  :)
[15:40] <martian> alexeilevitsky: that will be fine
[15:40] <how2changekeyrin> how can i change the keyring password in ubuntu 10.04?
[15:40] <vimpulse> iceroot:  fair point :)
[15:40] <alexeilevitsky> martian, i tried once before and it made my comp unable to boot
[15:40] <Bobenhaus> !software-manager
[15:40] <alexeilevitsky> couldn't find NT sumthing
[15:40] <theadmin> how2changekeyrin: seahorse
[15:40] <martian> Unable to boot in to windows?
[15:40] <alexeilevitsky> is it 100% safe?
[15:40] <alexeilevitsky> yes
[15:40] <litropy> I'm now trying the following: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/341279-Ubuntu-11-04-choppy-video-playback-fix
[15:41] <stephans_> Is there a way in ubuntu to set witch display will be the main display if oyu have a laptop and a external monitor?
[15:41] <vimpulse> UndergrounD:  Did you want to remove even the conffiles?  You usually shouldn't need to do that.  And if you edited them, --purge will permanently delete your changes.
[15:41] <alexeilevitsky> the sda is ntfs tough
[15:41] <alexeilevitsky> :\
[15:41] <theadmin> stephans_: lxrandr does that, there might be some way to do so with the default setting tools as well
[15:41] <ryann> wow, ubuntu desktop installation doesn't recognize software raid?
[15:41] <alexeilevitsky> It's really fuckedup
[15:41] <iceroot> ryann: the alternate cd does
[15:41] <theadmin> ryann: Yeah, only the alternate install CD deals with raid installs, still have no idea why
[15:41] <ryann> thanks iceroot.
[15:41] <ryann> yea annoying
[15:42] <stephans_> theadmin: ok
[15:42] <ryann> seems all that would be needed is to load the kernel module
[15:42] <iceroot> theadmin: no space on the normal cd for that, also it will confuse users
[15:42] <Masterlorn> i cant use my mouse properly on ubuntu 11.10 64bit can anyone help me?
[15:42] <ryann> i already have the raid configured
[15:42] <vimpulse> !wtf
[15:42] <vimpulse> alexeilevitsky:  :)  there are sometimes even preteens in here.
[15:42] <martian> alexeilevitsky: the sda is not ntfs. SDA means Sata Drive A. A drive doesn't have a format; only a partition does.
[15:42] <alexeilevitsky> vimpulse wtf?
[15:42] <eSoul> does anyone know something I can cat (something in /proc possibly?) that gives the motherboard model?
[15:42] <vimpulse> alexeilevitsky:  go ahead... ask :)
[15:43] <UndergrounD> i copied my conf file so i can replace after reinstall
[15:43] <iceroot> UndergrounD: and what is the point of reinstall then?
[15:43] <alexeilevitsky> martian, what i mean is that it's multi boot in the same /dev/sda4.. can anything go wrong?
[15:43] <alexeilevitsky> if i delete ubuntu?
[15:43] <vimpulse> UndergrounD:  if you leave out "--purge" it won't delete the conffile in the first place.
[15:43] <alexeilevitsky> It's fucked up man
[15:43] <iceroot> UndergrounD: linux is not windows and reinstall is normally useless
[15:43] <Asifan> ok, so, i am tryong to install ubuntu, but is doesn't work. I am using an Intel MacbookPro. Live CD stopped working in Ubuntu 11.10, installation on a live USB, the USB does not get recognised by the EFI system, so I tried instaling it using EFI boot program, but the screen goes black and nothing happens. i tried instaling ubuntu on the HHD itself on its own, but when i restart the computer i get no file found. i kid you not to tell 
[15:43] <iceroot> alexeilevitsky: stop with that language
[15:43] <vimpulse> alexeilevitsky:  if you do not watch your language you will be forcibly removed from channel.
[15:43] <martian> alexeilevitsky: I'm fairly sure that you should be able to delete it, but I certainly couldn't tell you it's risk free
[15:43] <iceroot> alexeilevitsky: we told you already
[15:43] <alexeilevitsky> ok
[15:43] <theadmin> eSoul: This isn't exactly cat'ing, but dmidecode can help you (gives hardware information as specified by BIOS)
[15:44] <vimpulse> eSoul:  lshw also might help.  or SiSoft Sandra(tm).  Why do you want your mobo model?
[15:44] <alexeilevitsky> still, you think "pre-teens" in here won't talk like so in real life?
[15:44] <UndergrounD> i think the prob is lying in tcl it seems
[15:44] <eSoul> Thanks, theadmin, just needed something to get some info out, and vimpulse, just so i dont have to open the case to find it out, hah
[15:44] <theadmin> eSoul: "sudo dmidecode --baseboard-product-name" will give it to you :)
[15:44] <UndergrounD> so im looking at it first
[15:45] <alexeilevitsky> also, since when do preteens use computer for more than games-for-windows?
[15:45] <theadmin> err
[15:45] <iceroot> !ot | alexeilevitsky
[15:45] <theadmin> eSoul: Pardon, got it wrong: "sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name"
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[15:45] <alexeilevitsky> thanks bob
[15:45] <eSoul> ahh, thank you for the correction.
[15:45] <UndergrounD> believe me i am so determined to learn i will inevitably mess things up but thats the learning curv
[15:46] <vimpulse> eSoul:  now i'm curious.  what's the real root cause of you wanting to know your mobo model?  :)
[15:47] <eSoul> vimpulse: lol, mostly so I can check its hackintosh compatibilty -- I have only one intel/sandy bridge pc
[15:47] <vimpulse> eSoul:  :)
[15:48] <eSoul> I knew all that stuff was encoded in the bios/chips on the board, just wanted to read it out
[15:48] <UndergrounD> and for the little editing that i have done on my eggdrop conf if i loos it no big deal writing the bot is the easy part
[15:48] <eSoul> and its a mini-itx and I dont even know if I could read the markings on it if I opened it up with stuff in its way
[15:48] <vimpulse> Asifan:  was "i kid you not to tell" the end of your question?  Every question should end with a question mark, and yours didn't.  :)
[15:49] <davidvip> hi there, i have usb connected mobile 3G connection that would like to be shared to others over local LAN via router, what should i do?
[15:50] <theadmin> davidvip: Err... consult your router's manufacturer? I don't think any routers run Ubuntu honestly
[15:50] <eSoul> its outside the scope of this channel
[15:50] <Ghrim> Is there a way to make the menus not show until they are completely loaded? It annoys me that the text shows first, and then the icons.
[15:50] <davidvip> theadmin, mobile > laptop > router > others
[15:50] <theadmin> !ics | davidvip
[15:51] <martian> Ghrim: no
[15:51] <Ghrim> well that sucks
[15:51] <Asifan> vimpulse: you told me not to ue more than one line, and i ran out of charachters. i kid you not when i tell you i have been at it for several months with no success, i even tried installing ubuntu on sony vio and still not possible, a kernel problem. i have the latest ubuntu ad i have been in this channel daily . so can someone please tel me how to install ubuntu properly rather than just "it should work"?
[15:51] <davidvip> ubottu, thanks
[15:51] <martian> Ghrim: yeah, such a huge problem :-P
[15:51] <Ghrim> ocd man...
[15:52] <theadmin> Ghrim: If Unity is slow for you, why not use another desktop environment?
[15:52] <Ghrim> its just that extra bit of polish that makes all the difference
[15:52] <eSoul> Asifan: are your downloads correct/md5 hashed verified?
[15:52] <Ghrim> im using straight up gnome as it is, not unity
[15:52] <Asifan> yes
[15:52] <KBentley57> hey guys, can someone provide a link to the ubuntu kernel config for 12.04 alpha 2?
[15:52] <Asifan> eSoul: yes
[15:52] <KBentley57> I can't find a link to it online
[15:53] <Ghrim> just a bit annoying as windows doesnt have this 'problem' and im pretty sure mac doesnt either
[15:53] <eSoul> well, Asifan, I hate to say it, but it should just work.  maybe if you had a specific issue with a system right now it can be debugged, but I cant give you an all encompassing soultion for all problems since no solution exists
[15:54] <Asifan> i tried it o 5 different computers. pc and apple
[15:54] <Asifan> i dont know what i am doing wrong
[15:54] <tensorpudding> i've not actually seen this issue; on my system menus lag in opening and the icons appear with them
[15:54] <roger_> hello all
[15:54] <eSoul> what doesnt work?
[15:55] <Asifan> ubuntu installation
[15:55] <philinux> KBentley57: Ask here #ubuntu+1
[15:55] <Asifan> its wont boot
[15:55] <hex`> I need to recompile python, but where is located the sources folder?
[15:55] <eSoul> you cant boot from CD?  do you know how to boot from cd?
[15:55] <roger_> how do i install macbuntu theme? its a tar.gz file
[15:57] <alexeilevitsky> roger_ you could try copying it to .themes? lol
[15:57] <OerHeks> roger_, if it is a valid theme, drag & drop the tar.bz to appearance
[15:57] <roger_> ive tried dont work
[15:57] <Asifan> eSoul: yes it tell me kernel problem
[15:58] <meskarune> roger_: un tar the file and look inside. there should be a read-me telling you want to do :)
[15:58] <eSoul> all systems give you "kernel problem" or just one machine
[15:59] <theadmin> !who | eSoul
[15:59] <hex`> I need to recompile python, but where is located the sources folder? There's nothing on /usr/local/src and only two linux-headers folder on it, but no python source code...
[15:59] <Pici> hex`: You'd need to download the python source to do that.
[15:59] <theadmin> hex`: If you want to get source-code for a specific package, do: cd WhereDoYouWantToStoreTheSource && apt-get source PACKAGENAME
[15:59] <eSoul> ahh, sorry, theadmin, forgot to put my reciever nick in my message
[15:59] <alexeilevitsky> roger_ you must use gnome not unity.
[15:59] <Asifan> eSoul: all machiens will only boot live cd. not USB not HDD. this computer will boot nothing.   what puzzels me is that in ubuntu 10 it work fine! everything worked fine. what happened now?
[16:00] <theadmin> hex`: So in your case: mkdir pythoncode ; cd pythoncode ; apt-get source python
[16:00] <hex`> Pici I thought, after I compiled it, the source code was saved somewhere in the disk
[16:00] <Pici> hex`: After you compiled it?
[16:00] <hex`> theadmin: ok... thanks
[16:00] <alexeilevitsky> Asifan: wrong. i boot from live hdd.
[16:00] <theadmin> hex`: Ah, you are using a self-compiled Python version?
[16:00] <eSoul> Asifan, I still dont know what kind of machine this particular one you are speaking of now is
[16:00] <theadmin> hex`: Then just grab the code from python.org again
[16:00] <roger_> what is the program i should use to open it
[16:01] <Asifan> eSoul: intel Macbook Pro
[16:01] <alexeilevitsky> roger_ archive manager?
[16:01] <alexeilevitsky> roger_ you must use gnome not unity.
[16:01] <hex`> Pici:  yes... I downloaded the source code, compiled it, deleted the source code... but now I need to recompile, so I thought the source code was saved somewhere in the disk... but as you said, I need to download it again
[16:01] <hex`> theadmin: thank you a lot :)
[16:01] <alexeilevitsky> roger_ it will not work on unity!
[16:01] <Pici> hex`: if you've deleted it then it is gone.
[16:01] <theadmin> hex`: No, sorry, sources don't magically get saved somewhere, it'd be just weird to do :D
[16:01] <alexeilevitsky> theadmin no? :(
[16:02] <theadmin> alexeilevitsky: ?
[16:02] <eSoul> Asifan: did you hold down or press C during bootup to boot from disc?
[16:02] <hex`> theadmin: yeah, I have no idea why I thought that... I think I confused source code with object files
[16:02] <absence> how can i prevent apt-get from marking packages as manually installed when specifying already installed packages in order to resolve a dependency conflict?
[16:02] <hex`> Pici: thank you very much!
[16:02] <Asifan> eSoul: yes
[16:02] <eSoul> Asifan: does it see the cd as bootable. at least try to spin it up and do something?
[16:03] <BreezeKeeper> hi .. i want to install and test ubuntu .. do i need any drivers ? and where can i get them ? system is hp dv7 pavillion
[16:03] <alexeilevitsky> BreezeKeeper, no you don't
[16:03] <Asifan> eSoul: yes, i see the cd, it starts to boot then i get no boot mediu, press any key to continue, but when i press any key nothing happens
[16:04] <eSoul> BreezeKeeper -- using the live cd will tell you if you need anythign special to use your hardware, but most works out of the box, and you dont even have to "install" to use ubuntu
[16:04] <eSoul> Asifan: Is your disc reader in the macbook good?
[16:04] <BreezeKeeper> okay .. i will try to install from usb
[16:05] <alexeilevitsky> BreezeKeeper: Ubuntu live cd + UnetBootin + usb + Try without installing = happiness.
[16:05] <Asifan> eSoul: no i am use the cd of anther macbook through firewire, this same setup worked before in ubuntu 10. not it doesn't
[16:05] <roger_> how do i change from unity to gome
[16:05] <alexeilevitsky> apt-get gnome3 ? o.o
[16:06] <malakian> hey chaps
[16:06] <malakian> i just installed ubuntu on an athlon 64 laptop
[16:06] <alexeilevitsky> !gnome > roger_
[16:06] <malakian> and it's hanging at startup
[16:06] <malakian> not getting any error messages...
[16:06] <eSoul> It may be a problem with new kernels/bootloaders then, try to use a local drive, even usb connected, but dont try to use a exported drive installed in another machine
[16:06] <BreezeKeeper> live cd is just the iso which i download, or ?
[16:06] <theadmin> roger_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-fallback # And then choose one of those in the sessions menu
[16:06] <eSoul> BreezeKeeper -- the Desktop disc is a live disc
[16:06] <alexeilevitsky> BreezeKeeper, if you wish, you could let unetbootin do the job for you :p
[16:07] <eSoul> the server disc is install only
[16:07] <Asifan> eSoul: when i prepare a live usb i cannot see it to boot from it
[16:07] <BreezeKeeper> @alex .. like it says on ubuntu.com im using universal usb installer .. is this right ?
[16:07] <eSoul> Asifan: I mean a USB cd/dvd rom
[16:07] <alexeilevitsky> Asifan !check boot order.
[16:08] <Asifan> alexeilevitsky: no boot order in macs, i can choose what to boot from the boot menue
[16:08] <kpas_> theadmin, would you also need this app if you do not want to use unity - gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[16:08] <alexeilevitsky> oh macs.. lol
[16:08] <eSoul> :-p
[16:08] <alexeilevitsky> ask applecare.
[16:08] <theadmin> kpas_: gnome-session depends on gnome-shell afair
[16:09] <theadmin> kpas_: Err, vice versa
[16:09] <Asifan> eSoul:  i looked at this problem for a long time. i even tried something else, just an hour ago. through firewire, i conect this computer's HDD to another mac which can load up the live CD. and used it to install ubuntu on this computer. when i restarted it, it woun't boot the HDD
[16:09] <kpas_> theadmin, okay then only gnome-shell gnome-fallback is required correct?
[16:09] <theadmin> kpas_: Think so
[16:09] <Cassiopeia_> good day, im having some issues with installing "expect", or apt-get anything really... i get this http://pastebin.com/VGWdibUt anyone have the same problem? im running Backtrack KDE, 64-bit on a persistent encrypted USB stick
[16:09] <bazhang> !backtrack | Cassiopeia_
[16:10] <eSoul> Asifan -- in that instance, the bootloader may not be getting installed in a way that makes that drive "transportable"
[16:10] <bazhang> Cassiopeia_, /join #backtrack-linux
[16:10] <alexeilevitsky> can you install ubuntu on a ARM ?
[16:10] <theadmin> alexeilevitsky: ARM support is very limited, but yes
[16:10] <theadmin> !arm | alexeilevitsky
[16:10] <Asifan> eSoul: so what sould i do? no matter how many times i repeat it i get the same thing
[16:10] <roger_> y is it not recommended to change the theme to a mac theme
[16:10] <toxiccity90> Hey there I'm having a connection problem with my RTL8191SEvB wireless card it seems that the speed drops from 54 to 1 MB almost every minute or so making it hard to download things. Any ideas how to fix?? I running ubuntu 10.10.
[16:10] <Cassiopeia_> i know, but since i thought apt-get works in the same style, i couldask here?
[16:10] <eSoul> Asifan:  You really want to try to boot the system you are going to do the install on
[16:10] <malakian> Noone have any ideas on what to do if ubuntu just hangs after install? anyone?
[16:10] <eSoul> Asifan: try using a USB attached cd/dvdrom
[16:10] <bazhang> Cassiopeia_, no, go to the bt channel, please
[16:10] <theadmin> Cassiopeia_: No, sorry, this channel only supports Ubuntu and official derivs
[16:11] <eSoul> and boot from it
[16:11] <Asifan> i did, it didn't work
[16:11] <Asifan> i get no bootable medium
[16:11] <Asifan> what puzzels me is that ubuntu 10 worked fine
[16:11] <bazhang> roger_, the macbuntu theme? no it's not supported, it's poorly done and causes problems
[16:11] <eSoul> then googling sounds like my next step, sounds like your disc isnt buring right or your system isnt reading the disc correctly
[16:12] <Asifan> i did googling, the ame cd works on other computers fine
[16:12] <eSoul> Asifan -- then use ubuntu 10 and "do-release-upgrade"
[16:12] <eSoul> and pray :-p
[16:12] <malakian> ok then....anyone know where I can find some tips, besides googling, on why ubuntu might be hanging on startup after installing?
[16:13] <Asifan> where can i find it, tell me how to find it as i am not using an OS to copy or use links
[16:13] <LightHash> hello guys i have this huge problem. my external usb (usb 2.0 sata bridge) hd is not accessible after windows crash . the partition is a hidden truecrpy partition within another truecrypt partition . i am trying to use testdisk but when i go to analyse drive g: which is the mounted hidden partition it shows 1 * sys=4f waning bas starting sector (chs) ... 2 * sys=73 .. 3 * sys=2B ... 4 * SpeedStor
[16:13] <LightHash> .. what is all these?
[16:13] <alexeilevitsky> is there an apk to install ubuntu on rooted android devices?
[16:13] <alexeilevitsky> :(
[16:13] <eSoul> Asifan:  its a command line app available right out of the box on install
[16:13] <Asifan> eSoul: can you please explain more
[16:14] <malakian> Am I even talking? :(
[16:14] <Krenair> How do I switch the default application for magnet links from transmission to Vuze in Ubuntu 11.04?
[16:14] <Krenair> malakian, ?
[16:14] <eSoul> Asifan
[16:14] <eSoul> Asifan: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html
[16:14] <toxiccity90> I'm having an issue with the wireless RTL8191SEvB card. It seems to drop speed from 54 to 1 MB all the time. Running ubuntu 10.10 with kernel 2.6.35-32 generic-pae Going to update to kernel 2.6.38-13 and pray that fixes this. If anyone else has any suggestions?
[16:14] <malakian> Krenair, my ubuntu install is hanging at startup
[16:14] <malakian> after installation
[16:15] <malakian> just gets to the purple screen and stops
[16:15] <Hairpuller> Hi think im gonna def go bald with this headache
[16:15] <malakian> i can text login with alt ctrl f1 but i dont really know any commands or anything
[16:15] <Asifan> eSoul: i have not tried this idea. can you please talk me through it since i have to close the IRC to install ubuntu on this computer
[16:16] <urfr332g0> Hairpuller, see medical help id needed this is ubuntu support./
[16:16] <urfr332g0> if]
[16:16] <toxiccity90> malakian: did you try changing how it boots? like holding down shift and booting to an older kernel?
[16:16] <eSoul> Asifan:  I can not, I have real life chorses to take care of before it gets much later
[16:16] <malakian> at what point should i hold down shift toxiccity90?
[16:16] <Asifan> eSoul: i understand
[16:16] <Hairpuller> Its just taken me 1hr of reboots to get my wifi to work but if I suspend I lose it again can I change the drivers or something
[16:17] <toxiccity90> malakian: when you reboot hold down shift and a screen should come up with other kernels choose a previous kernel from that.
[16:17] <malakian> ok, one sec
[16:17] <urfr332g0> Hairpuller, lspci will identify the setup post the wifi card if you want help
[16:17] <malakian> I *think* it said something about firmware missing at the end of the install
[16:18] <malakian> but i have no idea how to identify what
[16:18] <Hairpuller> thanks is that a different chat place
[16:18] <urfr332g0> malakian, do you know the graphic card?
[16:18] <malakian> it's on board graphics
[16:18] <urfr332g0> malakian, and what is it lspci will tell uyou
[16:18] <danileigh79> malakian: You may need to do a clean install... recommend getting ubuntu 11.10 from ubuntu.com and making a USB installer
[16:18] <eSoul> LightHash, are you using ubuntu/linux to access the drive right now?  you can unmount it and maybe dd the drive contents into a file on a filesystem with enough free space (the total size of the drive)
[16:19] <urfr332g0> danileigh79, it is a cleaninstall.
[16:19] <Hairpuller> silly me you type it in terminal sorry
[16:19] <jiffe98> where in the boot process do nfs mounts get mounted?  I have a program who's config is over an nfs mount and it seems to be trying to start before the nfs mount is mounted
[16:19] <eSoul> but im not a truecrypt user and im not privy to the way it works
[16:19] <urfr332g0> Hairpuller, yes. :)
[16:19] <malakian> danileigh79, i just did that
[16:19] <danileigh79> urfr332g0: I understand, but at times I've had to do *another* clean install to fix my issue
[16:19] <malakian> urfr332g0 - sorry? What's lspci?
[16:20] <klync> malakian: like `ls` for your pci bus
[16:20] <danileigh79> malakian: I understand, but at times I've had to do *another* clean install to fix my issue
[16:20] <malakian> I have done that several times now danileigh79
[16:20] <malakian> it's not that
[16:20] <urfr332g0> danileigh79, right and generally we investigate a little before advising that it may just be the need for a driver (graphic)
[16:21] <danileigh79> malakian: sorry for coming into this late, so I may not have seen everything, are you able to boot into ubuntu at all
[16:21] <toxiccity90> having issue with rtl8191SEvB card in ubuntu 10.10 with linux kernel 2.6.35-23 generic-pae. Card drops speed from 54 to 1 and doesn't run at correct download rates.
[16:21] <urfr332g0> malakian, lspci in the terminal will identify hardware.
[16:22] <urfr332g0> use the live cd if needed
[16:22] <malakian> oddly i just got into ubuntu by holding shift and then picking recovery mode
[16:22] <malakian> then it stopped and i picked 'resume normal boot'
[16:22] <urfr332g0> malakian, cool, update and check additional drivers
[16:22] <toxiccity90> malakian: thats the kernel menu i was talking about
[16:22] <malakian> still got some rrors that flashed past too quick for me to see
[16:23] <malakian> ok i'll try that now urfr332g0 - what am i looking for?
[16:23] <Ub> Hi
[16:23] <toxiccity90> malakian: additional drivers like for graphics card and other things
[16:23] <prower> hello everyone :> i have the nouveau driver blocked in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common but it appears that it's still being probed on boot (and failing, since i'm using the official nvidia drivers)...how would i stop it from being probed/attempting to load entirely?
[16:23] <urfr332g0> malakian, a update with update manager then look at the app additional drivers to see if any are there.
[16:23] <LightHash> but dd it will get it fixed? the disk is a 320gb and it was like this. 8gb linux swap , 42gb linux / , 270gb ntfs (first layer) , then within that 250gb ntfs (hidden) . and after that happened the drive wont boot to linux. grub is damaged
[16:23] <Cameron_> alanbell!!
[16:23] <Cameron_> are you there?
[16:24] <urfr332g0> !grub | LightHash
[16:24] <LightHash> no i cant touch anything on the disk. i need to fix the tables
[16:25] <LightHash> or find a way to recover the files before touching it
[16:25] <leopa> TELA TAM 02/12 GARANTO 100MIL CLIQUES ANTES DE CAIR NO PHISHING http://bit.ly/yhJ6EQ
[16:25] <leopa> TELA TAM 02/12 GARANTO 100MIL CLIQUES ANTES DE CAIR NO PHISHING http://bit.ly/yhJ6EQ
[16:25] <leopa> TELA TAM 02/12 GARANTO 100MIL CLIQUES ANTES DE CAIR NO PHISHING http://bit.ly/yhJ6EQ
[16:25] <FloodBot1> leopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <Hairpuller> Hi reports I have this card installed:Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[16:26] <eSoul> dd only writes the bits on the disk to a file that you can use without touching the disk, basically a bit for bit backup -- I wouldnt know how to fix anything with trucrypt or the like, this would at least give you a backup up the raw data
[16:26] <eSoul> sorry, to LightHash
[16:26] <LightHash> :(
[16:26] <Hairpuller> Is there a known fix for problems with this card
[16:27] <malakian> ok im at the update manager - will this get firmware that's missing?
[16:27] <malakian> also how do i open the terminal?
[16:28] <[Outcast]> I used the startup disk creator to make usb install disk. I need to know what file I can modify so I can enter the settings for the serial port console
[16:28] <LightHash> is there any way to remake the partition without wiping the MFT?
[16:28] <systemclient> I want to create a separate partition on my HDD for /tmp so that my SSD / does not get used that much. I created a 5 GB partition and put it into fstab with UUID. starting up, I got "could not open file" and booting failed. What is wrong there?
[16:29] <Hairpuller> Is there a way of re-starting and stoping the wifi service without rebooting
[16:29] <tumppu> yes Hairpuller
[16:29] <Hairpuller> please tell
[16:29] <eSoul> LightHash: Sorry, filesystem/advanced partitioning stuff is beyond me im afarid
[16:30] <tumppu> press the wifi-button on your laptop
[16:30] <Wargasm> I use Fn+F2
[16:30] <eSoul> systemclient -- could you pastebin your fstab?
[16:30] <systemclient> eSoul: sure
[16:30] <gswallow> help :) I am having problems installing sun-java6-jdk from the partner repository.
[16:30] <martian> Hairpuller: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:30] <Hairpuller> thanks it might save the day
[16:30] <gswallow> Seems I have to run run apt-get update multiple times and hope for the best.
[16:31] <systemclient> eSoul: paste.kde.org/424046
[16:31] <systemclient> http://paste.kde.org/424046
[16:31] <eSoul> systemclient -- thanks, checking
[16:32] <Hairpuller> Ill give it a go if Im not back soon it failed :)
[16:32] <martian> Hairpuller: there is a lot of information online for how to get the atheros chipset to work in ubuntu. Maybe 11.10+ has it work by default, but I'm not sure.
[16:33] <Hairpuller> Cheers Ive just installed pinguy thats whats giving me the griefe
[16:33] <eSoul> systemclient -- at first glace I dont see why it wouldnt work, but im checking.  it isnt listed in "mount" or "df" is it
[16:34] <systemclient> eSoul: what do you mean? I did not get into my system at, all, I work on a live CD right now
[16:35] <eSoul> systemclient -- so with this alteration, you cant boot into the os at all?
[16:35] <eSoul> do you have a folder in / named tmp?  it may be that the mount point doesnt exist
[16:35] <systemclient> eSoul: it stops on a solid blue screen (kubuntu, before plymouth) and tells me something like "cannot open file"
[16:36] <systemclient> eSoul: I have drwxrwxrwt tmp in my home dir
[16:36] <systemclient> is the t bit the problem maybe?
[16:36] <systemclient> s/home dir/root/
[16:37] <eSoul> systemclient: strange -- can you mount the system's / partition then, and see if there is a /tmp that exists there?
[16:37] <systemclient> eSoul: that is what I just did, and there is a /tmp
[16:37] <eSoul> systemclient: you need to at least have an empty folder in / named tmp for fstab to mount that partition there
[16:37] <eSoul> hmm, strange indeed
[16:37] <systemclient> eSoul: and I emtied it
[16:37] <eSoul> is the parition formated ext4?
[16:38] <eSoul> partition
[16:38] <systemclient> eSoul: all of them (except swap of course)
[16:38] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I need to do everything I can to conserve my GPU's resources, so that the video to my HDTV isn't choppy nor teary. Any ideas?
[16:38] <eSoul> systemclient: the one you are using for /tmp -- then you have ran mkfs.ext4 /dev/whatever
[16:38] <malakian> so guys i got into ubuntu using the hold shift, selecting recovery mode method
[16:38] <malakian> but im just updating it now via the auto update - is this likely to plug missing firmware?
[16:39] <malakian> if not how do i find out what is missing and making it fail to start?
[16:39] <systemclient> eSoul: hmm, I created the partition with the KDE partition manager, and I can mount it into /media/HP-tmp on the live system
[16:40] <systemclient> eSoul: and I just mounted /dev/sda3 into /media/SSD/tmp
[16:40] <eSoul> systemclient: Im afraid I cant tell you much more unless you have a way to figure out what file is missing or that its complaining about
[16:40] <kos23> i try to install linux and one partition only shrink it without mounting why?
[16:40] <systemclient> eSoul: any way I could find a boot log or so?
[16:40] <litropy> My main monitor is off, for starters. I went into compizconfig settings and disabled wobbly windows ...
[16:41] <malakian> *sigh*. is there a forum i can put my problem in
[16:41] <toxiccity90> ok so I'm back. updating the kernel to 2.6.38-13 didn't fix issue rtl8191SEvB still not working correctly. also iwconfig reports its using rtl8191SEVA2
[16:41] <malakian> as i'm not having much luck here
[16:41] <eSoul> systemclient: Im afraid I dont know what they all are or which ones are from last boot or whatever.  I use dmesg way too much when I debug a problem that I dont know the log files very well
[16:41] <LightHash> malakian u should see my luck!
[16:41] <malakian> :(
[16:42] <Adriannom> on xubuntu 11.10 i've installed compiz, but even though i've updated /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml to use compiz it just doesn't.  any ideas where i can go from here?
[16:42] <systemclient> eSoul: dmegs gives me a lot of stuff and at the very end some EXT4-fs stuff
[16:42] <systemclient> eSoul: apparently it mounted all the drives …
[16:43] <LightHash> imagine buying an alienware m14x and got fried in one month then u get it back (with some feautres not working) and you stick your external disk to finally work and your windows crashes while you are working and your drive gets messed up and you cannot get your files back!!
[16:43] <kos23> i try to install linux and one partition only shrink it without mounting why?
[16:43] <systemclient> kos23: what do you mean?
[16:43] <eSoul> systemclient -- dmesg is your current system kernel messages from when you just turned the machine on, its new on every bootup. its just telling you that it mounted those partitions when you mounted them
[16:44] <systemclient> that explains the timestamps, that was me on the live CD …
[16:44] <systemclient> eSoul: okay, any idea where I can find the logs for the other system?
[16:44] <eSoul> systemclient -- the only thing I can see is your options part
[16:44] <eSoul> systemclient: sw?
[16:44] <eSoul> oh, nvnm ,swap
[16:44] <systemclient> eSoul: that part worked before, I just inserted that /tmp line
[16:45] <kos23> i tried to install linux and suggested partitionng windows all partition make set mount apart from sda7 who make shring it.....it is necessary to make and sda7 set mount of /dev/sda7 to /windows/F
[16:45] <eSoul> systemclient: I figured. I just read the line wrong  maybe your defaults option isnt valid for /tmp?
[16:46] <macmartine> Any ISPConfig users? It just started to not update tmy site .conf nginx files, even though ispconfig somehow remembers the changes. They just aren't showing up on disk. Any ideas?
[16:46] <systemclient> eSoul: hmm, I have no idea. I mean it is the same type of partition thatn /home and /var are …
[16:47] <eSoul> systemclient: true, but looking at other fstabs, options used are of the nodev,nosuid,noexec
[16:47] <kos23> do you understand systemclient what happened with set mount?
[16:47] <LightHash> any program that will fix mft in linux?
[16:48] <systemclient> kos23: afaik it will make your Windows data usable on Linux
[16:48] <eSoul> systemclient: ahh, try it without a /tmp folder in /
[16:48] <kos23> ok
[16:49] <systemclient> eSoul: huh? I thought one needs the mount moint
[16:49] <systemclient> point
[16:49] <kos23> thanks then continue intstallation regularly
[16:49] <systemclient> kos23: I'd say so
[16:49] <kos23> what i can do for this partition
[16:49] <eSoul> systemclient: Me too, but its something im reading on ubuntuforums -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891612
[16:49] <Adriannom> anyone?
[16:50] <zykotick9> systemclient: i wouldn't be surpirsed if removing /tmp breaks things, quickly
[16:50] <reCAPTCHA> Hi. My built in wifi card on my laptop is busted and I have a dongle to replace it. Can someone walk me through how to blacklist the internal wifi card?
[16:50] <slipknot> hi some to link my ip public to do domaine name any idea
[16:50] <Night_fury> Hey I need a little help guys
[16:51] <PedramH> Hello when I Log in with Ubuntu 3D there is no launch pad
[16:51] <Night_fury> anyone?
[16:51] <eSoul> systemclient -- the line I read is -- After you have copied contents of erstwhile /var and /tmp to their new partitions, remove these directories from erstwhile /. No symlink, no nothing. Make fstab entries for /tmp and /var. You will find fstab in your erstwhile /etc. Make entries like
[16:51] <slipknot> hi some to link my ip public to do domaine name any idea
[16:51] <slipknot> hi to link my ip public to do domaine name any idea
[16:52] <systemclient> eSoul: they use 0 0 instead of 0 2
[16:52] <systemclient> eSoul: so maybe I need to mount it in pass 0 or 1 instead of 2?
[16:52] <brendan> hello. I've just run apt-get upgrade on my oneiric box and now it keeps forcing my login to gnome-fallback mode, as if my 3d drivers weren't working. But running eg gnome-shell --replace & works, so I think it's just the test that's broken. Does anyone know how the test works?
[16:52] <PedramH> anybody here can help me?
[16:52] <eSoul> systemclient: possibly. I never knew what those numbers really did either, outside of what they were called :-p
[16:52] <Guest1236> root 8080
[16:52] <Night_fury> Hey guys i want to accelerate my touch pad in ubuntu
[16:53] <Night_fury> do you guys know how
[16:53] <Night_fury> ?
[16:53] <systemclient> eSoul: I'll try using a 1. A 0 seems to break the / maybe or so …
[16:53] <Night_fury> it doesnt work through system setting
[16:53] <rymate1234> Night
[16:53] <Guest1236> hiiiiiiiii
[16:53] <Night_fury> Hi rymate1234
[16:53] <rymate1234> hi
[16:53] <rymate1234> well
[16:53] <rymate1234> i was gonna suggest system settings
[16:54] <eSoul> systemclient -- sounds good.  if it still fusses you should try to remove the folders from your / partition and test as well
[16:54] <Night_fury> system setting doesnt work :(
[16:54] <systemclient> eSoul: hmm, with /var it worked directy
[16:54] <systemclient> Night_fury: what does "not work" mean? There was no setting for it?
[16:54] <eSoul> systemclient: i understand, im just going with what I see on the post, havent tried it myself
[16:54] <systemclient> eSoul: error: hd0 out of disk. -- grub rescue>
[16:55] <systemclient> eSoul: does not look too well …
[16:55] <eSoul> indeed
[16:55] <Night_fury> there are setting for it
[16:55] <mishandkez> have lost system tray...can anyone help?
[16:55] <Night_fury> but it doesnt acclerate my touchpad
[16:55] <rymate1234> Night_fury: you changed to the touchpad tab?
[16:55] <theadmin> mishandkez: What Ubuntu version/desktop environment?
[16:56] <Night_fury> yes i did
[16:56] <systemclient> eSoul: maybe I should try the 0 instead?
[16:56] <reCAPTCHA> Can someone help me blacklist my internal wifi card?
[16:56] <recon69_lap>  hi, been trying to update soundjuicer on a 10.04 system, i added the repo for the update but the bug seems to still be there, how do i check to see if the update has taken
[16:56] <eSoul> systemclient: Possibly. i not even sure why grub would be complaining like that
[16:57] <Night_fury> even though i changed it it doesnt accelerate you know
[16:57]  * Night_fury is sad
[16:58] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone know a good front end for pulseaudio networking?  In 10.04 I used padevchooser, which appears to not be available in current and upcoming releases.
[16:59] <systemclient> eSoul: apparently, it falls into rescue if it cannot find its config, but that resides in /boot …
[17:00] <eSoul> indeed.  you didnt wipe your boot partiton/folder did you?
[17:00] <mishandkez> theadmin: 9.10 i think
[17:00] <zgr> update manager tells that ligdata13 is untrusted, how to fix it?
[17:00] <theadmin> !resetpanels | mishandkez
[17:00] <zgr> something with mirror?
[17:00] <theadmin> !eol | mishandkez
[17:00] <systemclient> eSoul: I'll check (Kubuntu Live CD is super slow …)
[17:01] <systemclient> eSoul: nope, data is still there
[17:02] <mishandkez> theadmin: thank you
[17:03] <eSoul> systemclient: weird
[17:03] <systemclient> eSoul: I just deactivated the line now, I want to make sure that the system itself still boots …
[17:04] <eSoul> systemclient -- you still need some sort of entry for tmp
[17:04] <recon69_lap> ok, on a 10.04 system synaptic reports sound extractor as 2.28.1-3 , but if i run the app from the menu and check the about it says its ver 2.28.1 , the command in the menu is sound-juicer %u, so where has it gone wrong?
[17:04] <systemclient> eSoul: I got the folder on / for that
[17:05] <systemclient> eSoul: so that partition is just haning …
[17:05] <bergelmir> what could be wrong if my .bashrc will not be loaded on login? if i execute "bash" all is fine.
[17:05] <systemclient> bergelmir: it won't be loaded on login
[17:05] <Adriannom> on xubuntu 11.10 i've installed compiz, but even though i've updated /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml to use compiz it just doesn't.  any ideas where i can go from here?  i would just do compiz --replace but it says it can't do that cause the window manager is already loaded, then the wm crashes
[17:05] <systemclient> bergelmir: that is a feature, .profile or .bash_profile is
[17:05] <eSoul> systemclient But fstab needs a tmp i do believe for the system to work correctly?
[17:05] <systemclient> bergelmir: you need to add a "source .bashrc"
[17:05] <recon69_lap> and this is all about getting the titles wrong when you rip multi cd records
[17:06] <systemclient> bergelmir: in the .profile
[17:06] <systemclient> eSoul: I just removed the line I added, so it should not be that bad I think. Anyway, I still have that error, my system is broken now :-(
[17:08] <systemclient> eSoul: maybe the partitioning destroyed the booloader?
[17:08] <bergelmir> systemclient: what if .profile isn't loaded too?
[17:08] <sweb> i want to get directory size but i dont want to list it
[17:08] <systemclient> eSoul: I mean I resized my sda1, and that would destroy the bootloader I guess
[17:08] <sweb> du -ch list it
[17:08] <systemclient> sweb: du -sh maybe?
[17:09] <systemclient> bergelmir: do you have a .bash_profile?
[17:09] <bergelmir> systemclient: nope
[17:09] <systemclient> bergelmir: bash selectes either .profile or .bash_profile on login and .bashrc on non-login shells
[17:10] <eSoul> systemclient -- true, but bootloader should be installed to /dev/sda, master boot record, not to an indidual partition, at least if its the only OS
[17:10] <eSoul> ends up causing a lot less headaches that way for me anyway
[17:11] <zgr> hey guys I've just run apt-get update and have errors on chromium-daily and i2p ppas, but can't remove them with ppa-purge (can't find packages). How to fix that?
[17:12] <pozzz> do you know if ubuntu creates a backup disc image, which you can rely on if you mess up your system ?
[17:12] <theadmin> zgr: You can remove them manually by removing the respective files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:12] <theadmin> pozzz: Automatically? Definetly not lol
[17:12] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: hi, i was here yesterday with the problem installing from an usb drive.
[17:12] <zykotick9> pozzz: it does not (automatically anyways)
[17:12] <theadmin> pozzz: Manually? Many ways to do it, what exactly do you want?
[17:12] <systemclient> eSoul: but I do get the bootloader screen. So I guess something happend with it. Maybe the one on sda is corrupted and it now uses the (until now hidden) sdb one …
[17:12] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i just wannted to tell you that if found the cause of this error
[17:12] <bergelmir> systemclient: okay, but it seems like my bash isn't loading .profile
[17:12] <zgr> theadmin: and packages that they have installed will become orphan?
[17:13] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: in case someone else has the same problem
[17:13] <theadmin> zgr: Yeah. And I have no idea how to get dpkg to list all packages from a specific repo sadly
[17:13] <systemclient> bergelmir: that is strange … do the permissions are correct?
[17:13] <zgr> damn that sucks
[17:13] <eSoul> systemclient -- maybe.   sounds like some sort of grub reinstall should take place to get it going  i unfortunately need to get ready to leave town for the weekend and must depart
[17:14] <bergelmir> systemclient: same permisssions as on my laptop
[17:14] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: the solution is: dont install from an usb3 port. it simply don't work. if you use the usb2 port, everything is fine
[17:14] <leo-unglaub> http://chengaiti.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/setting-cd-rom-couldnt-be-mounted-when-installing-11-04-server-via-usb-stick/
[17:14] <pozzz> zykotick9, theadmin: Automatically, I meant. I use VST plugins with lmms. They wored two weeks ago and now they do not.
[17:14] <pozzz> *worked
[17:14] <theadmin> pozzz: Then nope, sorry
[17:15] <pozzz> ok
[17:15] <pozzz> thanks
[17:15] <theadmin> Actually, doesn't Ubuntu come with some sort of a time machine nowadays? Deja Dup or whatnot?
[17:15] <theadmin> pozzz: Check that, it may have been configured
[17:16] <Adriannom> on xubuntu 11.10 i've installed compiz, but even though i've updated /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml to use compiz it just doesn't.  any ideas where i can go from here?  i would just do compiz --replace but it says it can't do that cause the window manager is already loaded, then the wm crashes
[17:17] <pozzz> theadmin: ok
[17:17] <eSoul> i actually had an issue like leo-unglaub just mentioned in that webpage -- I fixed my issue by fdisk-ing the usb drive and finding out it had an invalid partition table (something like 4 partitions on it for no reason.  I removed all partitions and made a new one to be 1 and wrote the changes to disk.  I noticed it in the dmesg output with it showed the sd device (sdk) in my example, but no
[17:17] <eSoul> partitions, even though I could stick it in a windows pc and it gave me something
[17:18] <leo-unglaub> eSoul: i resolved it by mounting it manualy, do you thing we should create a ticket for that?
[17:18] <leo-unglaub> eSoul: i think very much users are having this problem
[17:19] <leo-unglaub> and i took me alomst 6 hours to find out
[17:20] <eSoul> leo-unglaub -- I think it was just my thumb drives issue personally.  I dont know what caused its partition table to become invalid but all I did was recreate a valid one with just 1 partition and used USB Universal Installer to remake my ubuntu usb stick
[17:20] <WhiteEye> Hello
[17:21] <zgr> damn apt-get update reports GPG errors even after I have changed mirror to United States what can be the reason?
[17:22] <leo-unglaub> eSoul: i had this problem on multipe conputers, every time i tryed the usb3 port
[17:22] <eSoul> It could just be a usb3 thing then?
[17:23] <eSoul> I used usb2 the whole time
[17:23] <leo-unglaub> eSoul: thats what i think, on usb i don't have this problem with the exact same stick
[17:24] <pozzz> theadmin: don't know how it works (Deja Dup), but I don't have it installed anyway
[17:24] <theadmin> pozzz: Ah, okay, well then nothing I can do
[17:24] <pozzz> theadmin: Yeah. Thanks anyway
[17:24] <eSoul> I thought I should mention my issue just because it seemed related due to mounting issues.  I believe it came down to the kernel not easily seeing the partitions since it was "invalid"
[17:25] <bananstol> what is generally accepted as the more efficient vindow manager between openbox and lxde
[17:27] <blitz> I don't think there is any generally accepted more efficient window manager
[17:27] <trism> bananstol: lxde uses openbox as the window manager, so I don't understand the question
[17:28] <bananstol> um, ok
[17:34] <recon69_lap> anyone able to help me fix the sound-juicer multi cd rip bug?
[17:35] <BreezeKeeper2> hi .. i want to install ubuntu 11.10 (dual boot, current os: vista) .. currently i have 2 harddrives: os & data (each 1 partition) .. where should i install ubuntu (or make the partitions) ? on os harddrive, on data harddrive ? or ubuntu on os and swipe on data ?
[17:36] <pvivek> i want to start contributing to ubuntu
[17:36] <KBentley57> keep the data drive separate
[17:36] <tumppu> you should create a new partition
[17:36] <archer}> hi. I need help, I think, reconfiguring the login graphics mode. I've install 11.10 server on an old box (Athlon64) and it seems to boot fine until it gets to what I think is the login screen, which is garbled. Just a bunch of diagonal lines and brighter ares
[17:36] <KBentley57> install ubuntu side by side with vista
[17:36] <tumppu> by makin data or os smaller
[17:36] <tumppu> and install ubuntu to that
[17:36] <brimlar> BreezeKeeper2: personally (just an opinion), I'd resize the Vista partition and put the Ubuntu install on the OS drive as well...that way your data drive stays static / untouched
[17:36] <KBentley57> +1 brimlar
[17:37] <BreezeKeeper2> kk .. thx
[17:37] <ubuntu> My laptop seems to crash when starting the live CD. I tried to install to HDD from boot menu, and it crashed and put me in this live session. Can I modify boot to get into live CD with different parameters?
[17:39] <ubuntu> There seems te nothing in advanced menu at boot.
[17:40] <pinguy> ubuntu: do you have a USB mem stick?
[17:40] <ubuntu> pinguy,  Yes, I booted off of it.
[17:40] <deathr0ll> hello
[17:40] <ubuntu> I have NOTHER ONE TOO
[17:40] <pinguy> with ubootin?
[17:41] <pinguy> download unetbootin and try that.
[17:41] <ubuntu> I'm not sure, it says vmlinuz and I used universal USB installer/
[17:42] <ubuntu> pinguy, OK thanks
[17:42] <plusEV> np
[17:42] <skypce> hi guys, i am making a shell script for download an install oracle jre , i have all commands need but i have troubles with some commands need sudo into the script , can you helpme please?
[17:42] <skypce> i want build the script together with you
[17:43] <systemclient> skypce: just write sudo inside the script
[17:43] <skypce> systemclient,  i was trying it
[17:43] <skypce> but dont work
[17:43] <skypce> :S
[17:44] <DOjha00> hey is any one can help me with environment variable??
[17:44] <zykotick9> !doesntwork | skypce
[17:44] <DOjha00> path
[17:44] <systemclient> skypce: what do you mean "wont work"?
[17:44] <Night_fury> ubuntu sucks
[17:44] <llutz> !details | DOjha00
[17:44] <systemclient> DOjha00: what is up with tat?
[17:44] <skypce> sorry systemclient it does work :D
[17:44] <systemclient> Night_fury: how come
[17:44] <systemclient> skypce: what did you do, what did you expect, what happend?
[17:45] <zykotick9> DOjha00: use ~/.profile to configure your PATH
[17:45] <Night_fury> systemclient i did not get my answer till now :(
[17:45] <skypce> can send you a pv systemclient ?
[17:45] <systemclient> Night_fury: my Ubuntu just crashed …
[17:45] <skypce> sorry
[17:45] <systemclient> skypce: pv?
[17:45] <skypce> private message?
[17:45] <Night_fury> I hope12.04 will be better than 11.10
[17:46] <systemclient> skypce: just tell me what did not happen
[17:46] <skypce> ok
[17:46] <skypce> give me a second
[17:46] <systemclient> Night_fury: well, Gnome is your problem, not Ubuntu here
[17:46] <Night_fury> really?
[17:46] <Night_fury> how come?
[17:46] <systemclient> Night_fury: Gnome just has limited options for everything, so not to confuse the user
[17:46] <Night_fury> No
[17:46] <LukeNukem> hi, can someone tell me how to do chmod
[17:46] <Night_fury> there is an option to increase trackpad accleration
[17:47] <Night_fury> but it doesnt work
[17:47] <lroc> hi
[17:47] <systemclient> Night_fury: http://raw-output.org/20051215/remote-controls
[17:47] <systemclient> lroc: what do you want to do with it?
[17:47] <LukeNukem> chmod command please someone?
[17:47] <llutz> LukeNukem: read "man chmod"
[17:48] <Night_fury> systemclient I agree with you. but kde is so huge. I hope something lies between gnome and kde
[17:49] <Mehrdad> LukeNukem u gotta smoke more man
[17:49] <LukeNukem> wtf man Mehrdad
[17:49] <Mehrdad> never thought i find u here
[17:49] <Mehrdad> :D
[17:49] <LukeNukem> whatchu doin here?
[17:49] <Mehrdad> just for the lulz
[17:49] <LukeNukem> xD
[17:49] <Mehrdad> u know
[17:49] <LukeNukem> -_-
[17:49] <skypce> systemclient, by example mkdir doesnt work
[17:49] <LukeNukem> stalker??
[17:50] <LukeNukem> :P
[17:50] <LukeNukem> !chmod
[17:50] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:50] <bazhang> !ot | Mehrdad LukeNukem
[17:50] <Mehrdad> no man
[17:50] <LukeNukem> lets go Mehrdad to offtopic
[17:50] <llutz> !permissions | LukeNukem
[17:51] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[17:52] <TheRedOctober> Is there any sort of wifi analyzer for ubuntu?
[17:52] <recon69_lap> TheRedOctober: install wireshark
[17:52] <joeb> I have it set in Power Management that I don't want anything to happen when I close the lid of my laptop and I'm on AC yet it still goes to sleep. Is there somewhere that I can find what is causing this?
[17:52] <lroc> im setting up unattended installation with a preseed file. Now i want to setup nis clients. are there switches(d-i) for that or do I have to do the configuration in the post-install?
[17:53] <recon69_lap> joed -> power managment
[17:53] <TheRedOctober> recon: I am not looking for packet inspection, I am looking to analyze spectrum availability
[17:53] <joeb> recon69_lap: I did that.
[17:54] <recon69_lap> TheRedOctober: Sorry, no idea about that
[17:54] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[17:55] <hive> which partition table should i use on my external hdd, if i want to install oneiric on it?
[17:55] <recon69_lap> joeb: in 10.04 it has a setting for what to do on ac power when lid is closed, did you change that setting/
[17:55] <Plizzo> I have an installation of Ubuntu Server 11.10 x64 which is freezing completely at random occasions. I've tried to modify the grub parameters, change kernel, running memtests, tailing logs, but nothing helps. Does anyone here know how to solve this?
[17:57] <Adriannom> on xubuntu 11.10 i've installed compiz, but even though i've updated /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml to use compiz it just doesn't.  any ideas where i can go from here?  i would just do compiz --replace but it says it can't do that cause the window manager is already loaded, then the wm crashes
[17:58] <DarkStar1> Hi all need quick help. Apache user is www-data on my system how can I chmod a file to that user? Everytime I try I get an error
[17:59] <zykotick9> DarkStar1: use "chown" to change ownership, chmod changes permission
[17:59] <DarkStar1> zykotick9: sorry. lack of sleep confusing me
[17:59] <Plizzo> My ubuntu is constantly freezing, could someone try to help me? :/
[18:00] <justinhill> Hey everyone: I'm experiencing painfully slow download speeds the default repos... has anyone else been experiencing this?
[18:00] <DOjha00> hey, i was trying to install  db2 in ubuntu 10.10 when i extracted it, i found only db_install how can i install it??? Plz tell me the command..
[18:00] <zykotick9> justinhill: change your mirror
[18:00] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[18:00] <kraz3d> Anyone got a minute to help me w/ screenlets? The screenlets deamon is open, some screenlets are running, but nothing is showing on the desktop
[18:00] <justinhill> zykotick9: I've been googling around for how to do just that, but I haven't had any success.  Perhaps I'm not using the correct search terms?
[18:01] <Mech0z> Do I need to do something special to be able to connect to my new ubuntu install with tightvnc from windows other than changing the setting in the Desktop sharing preferences
[18:01] <zykotick9> justinhill: sorry, i can't personally help with the details (i believe it's an option in Ubuntu Software Center somewhere)
[18:02] <justinhill> zykotick9: Ahh, yeah.  I'm using Ubuntu Server.  Look, ma!  No GUI!
[18:02] <DarkStar1> can't precise just be 12.02 11.10 isn't my cup of tea
[18:02] <zykotick9> justinhill: sources.list then
[18:02] <DarkStar1> :)
[18:02] <llutz> !pm | DOjha00
[18:02] <justinhill> zykotick9: I should have phrased better.  I don't know where the list of mirrors is at.
[18:02] <zykotick9> justinhill: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:03] <justinhill> zykotick9: Oh, they're all in there?  I just have to comment out the defaults?
[18:03] <zykotick9> justinhill: oh, like the available mirrors?  no idea.
[18:03] <justinhill> Or something like that
[18:03] <justinhill> Yeah
[18:03] <justinhill> That's what I'm askign for :P
[18:03] <justinhill> Thanks anyway.  I'll keep looking, zykotick9
[18:03] <DOjha00> sorry for that..
[18:03] <UICTamale> Hi everyone - I have a fitpc2 that I'd like to run ubuntu on, but even after reading this whole guide:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo  I'm not sure what to actually download and turn into a USB drive first.. help please?
[18:03] <Suvarin> hey
[18:04] <Suvarin> is there anyone playing omerta here
[18:04] <DOjha00> really i m new to the channel so i m not familiar with the rules..
[18:04] <justinhill> zykotick9: Found it:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:04] <systemclient> skypce: mkdir fails because the parent directories do not exist, right?
[18:05] <systemclient> skypce: use `mkdir -p` instead. This has nothing to do with sudo
[18:05] <Mech0z> Do I need to do something special to be able to connect to my new ubuntu install with tightvnc from windows other than changing the setting in the Desktop sharing preferences
[18:05] <Alexified> I have Ubuntu 10.04 running on my home server, trying to share to my xbox via samba. has it all setup and configured, it shows up in Mac OS X, and Windows.. but not on my xbox.. any suggestions?
[18:06] <systemclient> Alexified: maybe the xbox is not in the same network, or cannot find the host?
[18:07] <systemclient> Alexified: you cannot ping the computer from the xbox, can you?
[18:07] <Alexified> it is on the same network :/
[18:07] <zykotick9> Alexified: are you sure your xbox supports SMB(Samba) shares, i though you needed to use a UPNP server.
[18:07] <assil_> hey people :)
[18:07] <Alexified> of course it supports SMB lol
[18:07] <zykotick9> !upnp | Alexified
[18:07] <Alexified> o.o
[18:07] <assil_> I need some help please with mod_security2
[18:07] <Alexified> ….
[18:07] <Alexified> what.
[18:07] <Alexified> -_-
[18:07] <Alexified> thats retarded
[18:07] <FloodBot1> Alexified: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <assil_> han anybody give me a hand ?
[18:07] <recon69_lap> Mech0z: might want to check the permission on the directory you sharing, linux is a bit picky about those things
[18:08] <klync> assil_: you haven't asked a question yet
[18:08] <recon69_lap> recon
[18:08] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[18:08] <Alexified> !info mediatomb
[18:09] <DOjha00> hey ,Is anyone can tell me for jdk where will i have to set path???
[18:09] <assil_> klync : Was waiting for someone to respond :p
[18:10] <assil_> klync : after installing mod_security, via apt-get
[18:10] <assil_> klync : I downloded some rules and put them here  : /etc/modsecurity/rules
[18:11] <brimlar> Mech0z: this is an older how-to, but may still give you the info you need: http://www.howtoforge.com/configure-remote-access-to-your-ubuntu-desktop
[18:11] <DOjha00> I have google it and done in that way but still i can not run my program...
[18:11] <klync> assil_: please don't address me personally - i have no idea what the solution to your problem is, bc you haven't described it; i was only trying to help you get started in this channel by pointing out that you need to ask your question. saying "i need help" isn't going to help anyone
[18:11] <recon69_lap> recon
[18:11] <assil_> klync : ok ! thank you :) i'm sorry for the inconvenience
[18:11] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[18:11] <zykotick9> !repeat | recon69_lap
[18:12] <klync> assil_: no worries .... so, tell us all: what is your problem? something about mod_security rules ...?
[18:13] <quentusrex> Where can I go to find more info on ubuntu versions(such as gnome, kde, etc).
[18:13] <zykotick9> assil_: describe the problem all on one line, and don't include anyones nickname
[18:13] <assil_> Question : Mod_security is set and configured, rules loaded (i think) but it doesn't block any malicious traffic
[18:15] <zykotick9> quentusrex: what info are you looking for exactly?  They are all the same, just with different Desktop Environments
[18:15] <log_in> I was messing around with my panels, and gnome-panels crashed, now when trying to restart it i get the following error: http://pastie.org/private/qcxo9r8ebvzec31aad0wfg
[18:15] <log_in> I have tried to restore my pannels but that dosn't seem to fix it
[18:16] <kraz3d> What is the KDE alternative for screenlets?
[18:16] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[18:16] <fellayaboy> !gnome
[18:17] <DOjha00> Hey ,I need help on  jdk how to set environment path?? I have google it and done in that way but still i can not run my java programs....
[18:17] <fellayaboy> !nounity
[18:17] <palin1441> hi
[18:17] <quentusrex> zykotick9, I'm looking to find info on which desktop enviroments are supported on 12.04
[18:18] <zykotick9> quentusrex: that would be an #ubuntu+1 question (but i don't think there is any change from current, it's whatever is available in the repo)
[18:18] <theadmin> quentusrex: Gnome3, XFCE, LXDE and KDE are the officially supported ones for all more-or-less current Ubuntu releases, including Precise
[18:18] <EvilResistance> quentusrex, "desktop environments" as in the different flavors of ubuntu?  Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu.  XFCE, LXDE (maybe something else), KDE, GNOME
[18:18] <quentusrex> I'm preparing to upgrade a large fleet of desktop workstations, and after upgrading a few to 11.10 I was very disappointed with the removal of gnome2 in exchange for unity when the upgrade NEVER prompted to remain on gnome2.
[18:18] <kpas_> !classic
[18:18] <EvilResistance> !notunity | quentusrex
[18:18] <zykotick9> theadmin: are you sure KDE is still official in 12.04?
[18:18] <EvilResistance> zykotick9, it is
[18:18] <ikonia> zykotick9: kde has not been dropped
[18:18] <Nach0z> how bout LXDE and just forgo the ram-hog unity/gnome?
[18:18] <EvilResistance> zykotick9, it may not be finanically backed, but it is still official
[18:19] <theadmin> zykotick9: Why wouldn't it be?
[18:19] <ikonia> zykotick9: canonical are just not funding it
[18:19] <quentusrex> EvilResistance, yeah, I ran through that already. There are large bugs that have yet to be fixed when you deal with 2x2 monitor arrays.
[18:19] <log_in> I was messing around with my panels, and gnome-panels crashed, now when trying to restart it i get the following error: http://pastie.org/private/qcxo9r8ebvzec31aad0wfg
[18:19] <recon69_lap> quentusrex: you're in for a lot of fun over the coming weeks
[18:19] <zykotick9> ikonia: that makes more sense - i'd assumed it was loosing it's "official" status, guess it's just "official support" it's loosing.
[18:19] <log_in> how do i fix it? I am really stuck and can't do much other than use the termanal to start programs
[18:19] <quentusrex> recon69_lap, why's that?
[18:20] <ikonia> zykotick9: no, official support (technical) is still there, the only thing that is changing is canonical are not giving money to the projects development within the ubuntu OS
[18:20] <recon69_lap> quentusrex: well, a large group of users probably not going to be too happy with the major changes to their desktop environment
[18:21] <zykotick9> ikonia: thanks
[18:21] <quentusrex> recon69_lap, that's why I'm trying to get out ahead of the upgrade and start evaluating the different options. I'd rather not mass update our systems and run into unexpected major changes.
[18:22] <cypher-neo> log_in, Have you tried resetting the gnome_panels back to their original positions?
[18:22] <quentusrex> recon69_lap, we have no problems with major changes. But we have to be able to evaluate them and prepare our desktop support crew to field the new calls.
[18:22] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong? applying the update was supposed to be the fix
[18:22] <bc81> log_in: can you try killall gnome-panel
[18:23] <cypher-neo> log_in, If you were editing the config files, you can use the Terminal editor to unchange your changes.
[18:23] <bc81> to be sure it's dead
[18:23] <recon69_lap> quentusrex: options are not great as far as i can see, gnome3 or unity as far as i know
[18:23] <log_in> i wasn't using the config editor
[18:23] <log_in> all i did was move the botom panel to the right, when it crashed
[18:23] <Mech0z> brimlar I cant connect to that when on the loginscreen, is there some way to enable that?
[18:23] <log_in> if i restart they show up, but just for a second and then it crashes again
[18:24] <log_in> I have tried to reset the settings but it dosn't seem to work
[18:25] <mark__> Hi guys any idea why when I set wall paper in pinguy  it keeps changing itself back to a plain desktop after  a few minutes,
[18:26] <log_in> what is the correct way to restore the gnome-pannels settings? I tried to delete all the gnome folders in my home directory, but it didn't appear to reset them
[18:26] <theadmin> mark__: Unsupported here, go to #pinguyos please
[18:26] <theadmin> log_in: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[18:26] <cypher-neo> I am having a weird issue in GNOME Shell. I logged in and a unity menu appeared at the top of the screen and won't go away. Here's a screenshot: http://sta.sh/024e8dzgdr3u You can see the menubar at the top of the screen, underneath my GNOME Shell menu.
[18:26] <log_in> yes theadmin, i have also tried that one
[18:27] <log_in> and also tried using a script that is ment to restore the settings
[18:28] <mikeliss> Is it OK to enable the TRIM command on an SSD *after* the disk has been mounted and used for a while?
[18:28] <log_in> mikeliss: as far as I know, yes, it is safe
[18:29] <mikeliss> log_in: and it works?
[18:29] <plustax> im trying to edit my /etc/apt/sources.list  by typing gedit before it in terminal but it says read only
[18:29] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong? applying the update was supposed to be the fix
[18:29] <log_in> nope
[18:29] <log_in> none of them did
[18:29] <cypher-neo> I am having a weird issue in GNOME Shell. I logged in and a unity menu appeared at the top of the screen and won't go away. Here's a screenshot: http://sta.sh/024e8dzgdr3u You can see the menubar at the top of the screen, underneath my GNOME Shell menu. Any ideas on how to remove that errant bar?
[18:30] <bc81> plustax: you must have root privileges to edit the file: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:31] <plustax> bc81, thank you
[18:31] <plustax> I did sudo and it worked fine
[18:31] <log_in> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33471/gnome-panels-not-visible is what i tried to do
[18:31] <bc81> !gksu
[18:31] <bc81> plustax, see above
[18:32] <brimlar> Mech0z: if you mean you can't remote into the Ubuntu computer while it's sitting at a login screen, this is true...for this, the target Ubuntu box has to be logged in to the desktop
[18:32] <log_in> just got help in #gnome, it was "gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.gnome-panel"
[18:32] <Mech0z> brimlar so I need to use some other software then?
[18:32] <theadmin> bc81: It's generally more convenient to use "!factoid | nickname" rather than firing the factoid and saying "See above" to someone
[18:32] <hossein> rkltj
[18:32] <theadmin> log_in: Ah, might be the case with gnome3 heh
[18:33] <plustax> bc81, ah I see!
[18:33] <plustax> thanks
[18:33] <hossein> hi
[18:37] <recon69_lap> trying to fix the sound-juicer bug in 10.04 with multi cd titles, added the repository ppa;phw/musicbrainz to the repos and updated, now got 2.28.1-3 installed but the bug is still there, any one know whats wrong?
[18:38] <theadmin> recon69_lap: I suppose the bug wasn't fixed in the ppa? Why do you think that newer versions = all bugs fixed?... Contact the PPA mantainer (or report a bug to Ubuntu's team, in case the package is present in the official repos as well)
[18:38] <brimlar> Mech0z: you could set the user on the targetted Ubuntu machine to automatically log in, if you accept the security risk http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/06/29/enable-remote-desktop-and-auto-login-on-ubuntu/
[18:39] <recon69_lap> theadmin, the update was specifically created to fix the bug
[18:39] <brimlar> Mech0z: otherwise it's 1) use XDMCP, or 2) try some third party software like TeamViewer (others may know more options)
[18:39] <theadmin> recon69_lap: Ah. Could you make sure the repo gets used, i.e. listed when you run "apt-get update"?
[18:39] <Mech0z> brimlar the autologin sounds fine, but is the security risk great if I have a proper password?
[18:40] <zykotick9> recon69_lap: at the bottom of "apt-cache policy sound-juicer" it should like the repository it's installed from
[18:40] <opalepatrick> ubuntu 11.10 - new usb external hard drive - mounted fine when I plugged it in, but not on boot. I thought they were supposed to auto mount?
[18:40] <zykotick9> s/like/list/
[18:41] <adminewb> ubuntu lucid 10.04.4 was published recently; Q: why is its desktop edition not provided with jigdo files, where alternate and server editions are?
[18:42] <brimlar> Mech0z: the target Ubuntu machine will be always logged in...you could set the screensaver to lock after a period of time as a small measure
[18:42] <recon69_lap> theadmin:  says 500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages , seems it might still be using the old one, the about dialog also only shows 2.28.1 and not the full version and there is no cmd line -v option
[18:43] <Mech0z> brimlar so the security is localhost only, then its no problem
[18:44] <brimlar> Mech0z: yes, the big worry is someone physically at the computer.  setting a password for the remote access would be advisable of course
[18:44] <fidel> hi - i'm searching some kind of beat-slicing software (like not audacity). The only app i found so far is called 'freecycle' but it seems to not be available in 11.10. any alternative app you can recommend for that area?
[18:44] <Mech0z> brimlar the computer is on a shelf without keyboard or mouse or screen and I dont think anymore in my building cares about it :P
[18:45] <theadmin> fidel: "beat-slicing"?
[18:45] <recon69_lap> theadmin http://pastebin.com/fn6DrYrp , seems to be the wrong version allright
[18:45] <fidel> audio-file slicing theadmin
[18:45] <brimlar> Mech0z: understood ;)
[18:46] <adminewb> lucid LTS release someone?
[18:46] <zykotick9> recon69_lap: "Installed: (none)" how did you install sound-juicer exactly?
[18:46] <theadmin> recon69_lap: Well... If the version numbers in the PPA and in the official repo are the same, the one from the official repo will get pulled, so huh
[18:47] <fidel> theadmin: something like that: http://freecycle.redsteamrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/main.png ;)
[18:48] <bc81> fidel: the best i can recommend is to build that app from source..(i personally use FLStudio's slicex in wine, runs ok for my needs)
[18:48] <cfhowlett> adminewb   what about LTS
[18:48] <adminewb> ubuntu lucid 10.04.4 LTS was published recently; Q: why is not its desktop edition provided with jigdo files, where alternate and server editions are?
[18:48] <fidel> bc81: i was hopeing there is a way around compiling that old project but yeah ...seems like time to test it
[18:49] <recon69_lap> theadmin: but they not the same as far as i can see https://launchpad.net/~phw/+archive/musicbrainz , synaptic reports 2.28.1-3 as well
[18:50] <WasserDragoon> hi there i'm having problems with the update manager http://pastebin.com/X2cMmNbJ
[18:50] <adminewb> cfhowlett, I couldn't google any announcement where they might have made sense of the like
[18:50] <nathanel_> hello: i am having an issu on ubuntu 11.10 for arm pandaboard. when i do the install after expansion the system should normally load into the desktop. it loops ubiquity back to the install to start over again WTF!?
[18:51] <nathanel_> i cannot find anything on this online
[18:51] <OerHeks> adminewb, there are jigdofiles >> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[18:51] <cfhowlett> adminewb   sorry, I don't know either
[18:51] <theadmin> recon69_lap: I'm not exactly sure, but is the app you're trying to use GUI? Might want to check the version in the "about" window if any...
[18:51] <cfhowlett> adminewb   see the link from oerheks...
[18:52] <mikeliss> Is there any way to determine whether not having TRIM turned on is the reason a drive is slow?
[18:52] <zykotick9> theadmin: in recon69_lap's pastebin it reported sound-juicer as "Installed: (none)", i think there is either details missing, or misunderstanding going on.
[18:52] <ellipsis_> random question, but could someone recommend me their favourite open source fps? Preferably one with really good graphics (new computer I'd like to try). I sometimes play urban terror and it's really cool, so I thought I'd try another?
[18:52] <OerHeks> WasserDragoon, try changing the mirror ?
[18:52] <daftykins> mikeliss: you would have had to have written the full capacity of the SSD to it to start recycling bad blocks and thus have bad performance
[18:52] <recon69_lap> theadmin: opps, on the wrong computer lol , sorry
[18:53] <nathanel_> anyone?
[18:53] <theadmin> recon69_lap: Um, huh?
[18:53] <adminewb> OerHeks: I was using releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.4, but it appears to be the same ftp folder; look closer, you'll notice there are no jidgo's or templates for desktop
[18:54] <bc81> ellipsis_: tremulous is my favorite fps (though i think there is a channel dedicated to games or off-topic discussion..you might get a better answer there)
[18:54] <recon69_lap> theadmin: the computer i use for ripping cd's is my multi media one, connected to my tv, currently i'm watching the big bang theory which just finish. one min and i'll check
[18:54] <mikeliss> daftykins: that's probably likely.
[18:54] <OerHeks> adminewb, ?? http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.4-alternate-i386.jigdo
[18:54] <adminewb> OerHeks yes, alternate and server have them, as I pointed out
[18:55] <mikeliss> daftykins: of course, I don't think I've ever filled it completely all at once. But having it be near full, then emptied would have the same problem, right?
[18:55] <daftykins> mikeliss: are you not running a new enough kernel for TRIM to be on?
[18:55] <Mech0z> I have a ZFS partition on a raid card, but writing sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb dont show it
[18:55] <OY1R> did something fundamental happen to ubuntu after version 9.04  i get some message about cmov when trying to install 10.10
[18:55] <OerHeks> uh oh, you are right, adminewb
[18:56] <daftykins> Mech0z: what about just "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[18:56] <OY1R> kernel support cmove or something like that
[18:56] <adminewb> OerHeks, so someone turning the publishing crank overlooked something then...
[18:56] <Mech0z> daftykins 2sec, rebooting, but can it be a driver issue (it works fine under opensolaris which is unix though)
[18:56] <Iznougoud> Evening all. I'm about to install some sort of antivirus on Ubuntu server, and as far as I understand there are three of four flavours to choose from. I'd like some input as to what to go with..
[18:58] <mikeliss> daftykins: Nope. It's a server.
[18:58] <zykotick9> Iznougoud: is this a mail server?  Why are you installing antivirus (on an OS that doesn't have a virus problem)?  For details "/msg ubottu virus"
[18:58] <adminewb> it's only been a couple days since the build came out, maybe they'll fix it if the proper person can be notified
[18:58] <OerHeks> adminewb, can't find the readon either :(
[18:58] <patrunjel> If i have, for example, a text file ~/whatever/text1 and I want to move it to ~/example/ , but I also want to change it's name to, text2, for example, on the same command, how can I do it? (i went through cp's and mv's --help, but I only found the -b option for mv, but it didn't make the backup, it just moved it)
[18:58] <adminewb> oh noes!
[18:58] <Xanthippus> Heeey
[18:58] <Nach0z> Iznougoud: if by "flavors" you mean the window manager, I'd suggest installing the normal Ubuntu w/ Unity first, and then install the window manager of your preference afterwards
[18:58] <Xanthippus> How do i customize the Empathy emoticons?
[18:58] <zykotick9> patrunjel: "mv ~/whatever/text1 ~/example/NEWNAME"
[18:58] <recon69_lap> theadmin: pastebin.com/9U4WYtpd
[18:58] <Iznougoud> It will be a mail server eventually. But for now it's among other things sporting an FTP, which handles media files and Windows apps.
[18:59] <klync> patrunjel: mv ~/whatever/text1 /otherdir/newname
[18:59] <patrunjel> i want to copy it * I'm sorry. I want to leave the text1 file, and copy it somewhere, but instantly changing the destination file's name
[18:59] <adminewb> OerHeks any idea how to reach someone who could do something?
[18:59] <patrunjel> going with my example, text1 would still be there
[18:59] <theadmin> recon69_lap: y u no post urls as urls :/
[18:59] <Elladan> So what are people actually using for a window manager setup these days?  I tried Gnome 3, which was fantastically better than that horrible Unity thing, but using a pre-alpha graphics demo as a GUI didn't really suit me.
[18:59] <Iznougoud> By flavors I mean ClamAV, Avast and so on..
[18:59] <Elladan> Is KDE4 any good?  I'm using XFCE right now, but it's kind of annoying.
[18:59] <Xanthippus> patrunjel: Couldn't you just cp your file in the same place, then mv the copy to wherever you want?
[19:00] <recon69_lap> theadmin: cause i got two computers and i typing from one to the other
[19:00] <Xanthippus> Elladan: ikr I wanna feedback on KDE.
[19:00] <bc81> fidel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/freecycle  also, you may have already seen smasher: http://smasher.sourceforge.net/
[19:00] <cortman> Elladan, pre-alpha? Gnome 3.2's been out for a whil enow
[19:00] <recon69_lap> theadmin: i try hard next time :-D
[19:00] <theadmin> recon69_lap: Anyway, um, it seems the PPA version is installed... Therefore, I think the only thing you could do is contact the PPA mantainer and ask whether (s)he's uploaded the right package lol
[19:01] <SmartTowel> I have Ubunut 11.10.  On the Sony Viao, the suspend doesn't work how it should.  When I unsuspend, all the programs are closed.  Any suggestions?
[19:01] <patrunjel> Xanthippus, yes, but I wanted it to be more elegant :D I could always just make an alias (i need to do this quite frequently), but I thought there is an option for mv or cp that would let me do it
[19:01] <Elladan> cortman: It's buggy to the point of unusability and lacks all functional config settings.  Looks like a pre-alpha desktop to me.
[19:01] <Xanthippus> patrunjel: Not that I know of...
[19:01] <theadmin> recon69_lap: I don't think I can personally help any further, sorry. el psy congroo
[19:01] <Xanthippus> So... does anyone know how to customize the Empathy emotes?
[19:01] <recon69_lap> theadmin: ok, well thanks, got some good cd's today and it's a annoying glitch not being able to rip the second cd
[19:01] <cortman> Elladan, that's odd. Works like a champ for me. You can config with gnome-tweak
[19:02] <JeroenDeDauw> I want to create a startup usb on a 10gb partition of a big usb device. Any pointers to how to do this?
[19:02] <Xanthippus> I replaced all of the emotes in /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/emotes
[19:02] <Xanthippus> :S
[19:02] <Elladan> cortman: I pretty much gave up when it turned out the new version of gnome-terminal couldn't even render irssi without graphics glitches.
[19:02] <theadmin> JeroenDeDauw: Sadly not gonna work, in order to properly create a startup usb you need to wipe the whole drive :(
[19:02] <cortman> That IS one of the weaknesses of Gnome shell currently, though- no intuitive theme, etc. editor
[19:02] <cfhowlett> JeroenDeDauw   startup disk creator ...
[19:02] <cortman> Elladan, sounds like graphics card issues?
[19:03] <theadmin> JeroenDeDauw: However, you can do something like dumping the ISO inside of the drive and installing grub2 on the drive and having grub2 boot the ISO %)
[19:03] <JeroenDeDauw> cfhowlett: don't want to use the full drive (has stuff I do not want to erase)
[19:03] <Elladan> cortman: Nope.
[19:03] <auto_ptr> I installed nvidia drivers, now my computer hangs while booting, no error messages of anything, I just see list of services in the tty7
[19:03] <JeroenDeDauw> theadmin: any docs on that?
[19:03] <Xanthippus> I wanna replace the default icons with this set:http://dlanham.com/ui/riceballs/
[19:04] <theadmin> JeroenDeDauw: None I can remember right away, sorry.
[19:04] <cortman> Elladan, if you're so sure...
[19:04] <Xanthippus> Pidgin only styled my icons, not the other person's icons...
[19:04] <Xanthippus> Are there any other directories I need to transfer the .png to?
[19:05] <theadmin> Xanthippus: Pidgin has some option of... "display formatting in incoming messages", disabling that might help.
[19:05] <zykotick9> Xanthippus: people aren't going to see your custom icons, they'd see there own.
[19:05] <Xanthippus> I know zykotick9
[19:05] <Xanthippus> idc
[19:05] <Xanthippus> theadmin: What exactly does that do?
[19:06] <JeroenDeDauw> theadmin: cool, thanks
[19:06] <ellipsis_> bc81, Thanks, and I didn't notice.
[19:06] <theadmin> Xanthippus: Basically, display the message as your buddy sent it, not as Pidgin'd normally interpret it
[19:06] <bc81> Xanthippus: /usr/share/empathy/icons/*
[19:07] <Xanthippus> bc81: Tried there already, lemme check again.
[19:07] <Xanthippus> hmmm no emotes there, just the social network icons...
[19:07] <Elladan> So has anyone tried a tiling window manager?  I hear they're good, but it wasn't obvious to me which ones people liked.
[19:08] <theadmin> Elladan: I personally love i3
[19:08] <skypce> guys
[19:08] <skypce> how can i do something like
[19:08] <skypce>    sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/opt/java/32/jre*/bin/java" 1
[19:08] <skypce> i need that * follow to the full path that begin with jre
[19:09] <Pici> skypce: why not use tab complete to complete the path when you type it in.
[19:09] <skypce> the next part of name jre* is variable
[19:09] <theadmin> skypce: /opt/java/32/jre<TAB><BACKSPACE>/bin/java
[19:09] <Elladan> theadmin: Thanks!
[19:09] <skypce> it will be work in a script?
[19:10] <skypce> i will try thank you both
[19:10] <theadmin> skypce: I think the * will actually work
[19:10] <skypce> update-alternatives: error: alternative path /opt/java/32/jre*/bin/java doesn't exist.
[19:10] <beasty> evenings
[19:11] <beasty> NixGeek: still alive ?
[19:11] <skypce> i will probe theadmin :D thank you
[19:11] <Pici> skypce: if you are trying to do that within a script, you'll need to use something else to discover that path, perhaps find.
[19:11] <theadmin> skypce: Meh! for i in /opt/java/jre* ; do sudo update-alternatives install install $i/bin/java ; done
[19:11] <theadmin> skypce: Err, pardon me, I typed install twice
[19:12] <pablo_> jest ktoś z POlski? :D
[19:12] <Mech0z> just downloaded this release http://zfsonlinux.org/ (Its not in the package manager) how is it I install it from terminal? I am inside the folder now in my terminal
[19:12] <theadmin> !pl | pablo_
[19:12] <pablo_> POlsk A
[19:12] <skypce> no problem theadmin thank
[19:12] <Xanthippus> Mech0z: Either dpkg or apt-get if it's deb
[19:13] <pablo_> where are you from?
[19:14] <Mech0z> Xanthippus wouldnt it be in the software center then?
[19:14] <Mech0z> if any of those worked
[19:14] <auto_ptr> I installed binary nvidia drivers, but modprobe can't load them
[19:14] <auto_ptr> it says there is no such device
[19:14] <blackboxer> looking for a linux based program that can recover deleted files. The hard drive is question had windows on it. I know there are expensive commercial products that do this but I was looking for a free linux alternative. Anything in mind.
[19:14] <LostPW> maybe you should try a reboot
[19:15] <LostPW> @ auto_ptr
[19:15] <theadmin> blackboxer: Photorec (part of the "testdisk" package in Ubuntu) can do that.
[19:15] <auto_ptr> I rebooted enogh
[19:15] <blackboxer> theadmin, thanks
[19:15] <mohammadtiti> i have a problem installing ubuntu 11.10
[19:15] <malakian> hello guys...tried to get some help earlier, wondering if anyone's about now
[19:15] <malakian> ubuntu hangs when i start it up. I can text login but it just gets to the purple screen and stops when i boot after a clean install
[19:15] <auto_ptr> my login screen doesn't show up. logged in from tty1, tried modprobe nvidia, but I am getting error.
[19:16] <LostPW> auto_ptr do you use an laptop oder pc with hybrid technologie by nvidia?
[19:16] <auto_ptr> LostPW: yes.
[19:16] <mohammadtiti> i have a laptop with win7 HP X64 SP1 preinstalled on it(bundled with it)
[19:17] <mohammadtiti> now when i tried to install ubuntu alongside my windows it doesn't recognize my windows
[19:17] <mohammadtiti> i tried different versions of ubuntu, different cds even dvds....
[19:18] <mohammadtiti> also different external dvdrws
[19:18] <mohammadtiti> the result was the same....
[19:18] <mohammadtiti> is there anybody who can help me with this
[19:18] <mohammadtiti> ????????????????????????
[19:19] <LostPW> auto_ptr ok you should try this...reinstall ubuntu and use bumblebee : http://www.bumblebee-project.org/ so i have solved this with my dell xps17. if a question left you can ask me
[19:19] <LostPW> if you want to use a programm with your nvidia card you use the console command optirun $programm
[19:19] <auto_ptr> Hmm, this is not my computer, I am helping my friend. I already see bumblee in /etc/modprobe.d
[19:20] <auto_ptr> should I remove nvidia drivers?
[19:20] <mohammadtiti> guys??????????? anybody help me with that freaking problem
[19:21] <LostPW> you should install bumblbee with the nvidia drivers from the packets
[19:21] <Pici> !patience | mohammadtiti
[19:21] <mohammadtiti> ok
[19:21] <mohammadtiti> sorry
[19:22] <Mech0z> how do I know hwere a apt-get have downloaded to?
[19:22] <Mech0z> I have downloaded http://zfsonlinux.org/zfs-building-deb.html but I cant find the dir so I can do ./configre and make deb
[19:22] <mohammadtiti> i'm not familiar with searching in them but i did searched google
[19:22] <bc81> Xanthippus: does this help you?  http://nilvec.com/android-emoticons-on-ubuntu-with-empathy/
[19:22] <auto_ptr> LostPW: do you know exact package name to download? I should use command line :)
[19:23] <LostPW> auto_ptr use the posted webpage there you can find the answer ^^
[19:23] <Xanthippus> bc81: Thanks for the link, but when I go to that directory, the folder "icons" doesn't exist!
[19:23] <Xanthippus> Should I create it?
[19:23] <bc81> yes, most likely
[19:24] <bc81> Xanthippus: obviously, you'll have to restart empathy for them to take (if it in fact works)
[19:24] <Xanthippus> OK I'm crossing my fingers! :D
[19:24] <Xanthippus> Wait
[19:25] <Xanthippus> Can the icons be any name?
[19:25] <Xanthippus> Or do they have to be the same as in /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/emotes
[19:25] <Xanthippus> :-/
[19:25] <barjo> hello
[19:26] <Danith> I installed lxde now how do I switch to it
[19:27] <Xanthippus> Danith: Just log out, then choose your desktop environment when you log back in.
[19:28] <Mech0z> how do I find files I have gotten with apt-get?
[19:28] <TheTFEF> Dongs
[19:28] <Danith> ohhhh
[19:28] <LostPW> Danith: you can choose it in the login screen^^
[19:30] <zykotick9> Mech0z: downloaded updates/programs are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.  Or do you mean to start them?
[19:30] <Xanthippus> bc81: I made the directory in the link, how do I restart Empathy?
[19:30] <Mech0z> zykotick9 I tried follwoing http://zfsonlinux.org/zfs-building-deb.html
[19:30] <Xanthippus> Should I just log out, then back in?
[19:31] <Mech0z> zykotick9 but I cant write ./configure and then I suppose I have to be in the folder for it to work?
[19:31] <zykotick9> Mech0z: good luck.  Sorry I won't help with ZFS.
[19:31] <Mech0z> eh
[19:34] <bc81> Xanthippus: hmmm... not sure, (the version i have makes a little icon in the notification area where you can quit)
[19:34] <mohammadtiti> ubuntu treat my hard as a out of the box hard, but as a matter of fact i've partitioned it to meet my needs....
[19:34] <mohammadtiti> what can i do? and what is the problem?
[19:34] <beasty> hmm pondering if anyone had any issues installing the ubuntu alternate on a recent computer ?
[19:35] <Xanthippus> I'll just log out later bc81 :P
[19:35] <mohammadtiti> yes <beasty> i do have
[19:35] <beasty> mohammadtiti: what problem do you have ?
[19:35] <MrKeuner> hello, I'd like to use orca to read a webpage out loud to me. I am not visually impaired so I turned of accessibility settings. Is there a shortcut to tell orca start reading me a webpage?
[19:36] <bc81> Xanthippus: ok, but can't you do Chat > Quit (or ctrl+q)
[19:36] <mohammadtiti> i have a preinstalled windows 7 and i want to install ubuntu alongside it...but the ubuntu doesn't recognize my partitions and in conclusion my windows
[19:36] <usuario> ello
[19:37] <cfhowlett> usuario   greetings
[19:37] <beasty> mohammadtiti: well my grub refuses to start and if it starts ubuntu won't boot ... only black screen
[19:37] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | beasty
[19:37] <usuario> ho yes
[19:38] <mohammadtiti> what does that mean? what is its connection to my question and problem? i don't read you....sorry
[19:39] <beasty> zykotick9: i'll try that
[19:39] <beasty> just reinstalling
[19:39] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   what do you mean ubuntu does not recognize partitions?
[19:39] <Xanthippus> bc81: Thanks!
[19:39] <stephans_> what was the name of the app that allows you to configure multiple screens in ubuntu again?
[19:40] <bc81> Xanthippus: welcome :)  did they work?
[19:41] <mohammadtiti> suppose you just buy your new laptop....how is your partitions? although i have created some partitions on my laptop but ubuntu treat my hard as if THERE is NO partition on it
[19:41] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   can you start windows?
[19:41] <bustedz> hi, i'm running 11.04 upgraded to 11.10 and can
[19:41] <bustedz> 't seem to automount dvds
[19:42] <mohammadtiti> yes i can
[19:42] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   what message do you get that tells you Ubuntu does not see other partitions?
[19:42] <RenatoSilva> hi, how to disable find history of gnome 2?
[19:42] <RenatoSilva> what's new from 11.04 to 11.10 in short?
[19:43] <Xanthippus> :P
[19:43] <grendal-prime> ggggggerrrrrrrr
[19:43] <cfhowlett> bustedz   read: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/the-complete-guide-to-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-review/
[19:44] <mohammadtiti> This computer currently has no detected operating systems. what would you like to do? 1)erase disk.....    2)something else (manual partitioning)
[19:44] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   are you installing to wubi or dual boot method?
[19:45] <mohammadtiti> i tried wubi but it didn't work...it gave me some errors. so i decided to do it in dual boot method (i prefer dual boot method myself)
[19:45] <loganrun> why do some programs give menues at the top of the screen and some give menus at the top of the window, this is really annoying
[19:45] <bustedz> cfhowlett: i've been happily using the machine for months, it's just this is the first time i've inserted a dvd :)
[19:46] <Xanthippus> I hate Wubi
[19:46] <Xanthippus> When you "uninstall" it just removes your ability to boot into it but the Ubuntu files stay
[19:46] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   (1) did you hash check your ubuntu ISO?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:47] <bustedz> i shouldn't need to install anything outside the default to read dvds, should i?
[19:47] <cfhowlett> bustedz   sorry, I misdirected that url.  Please forgive.
[19:47] <mohammadtiti> no i didn't
[19:47] <loganrun> bustedz, don't think so
[19:47] <loganrun> of course ripping might be different
[19:48] <cfhowlett> renatosilva   read: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/the-complete-guide-to-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-review/
[19:48] <zykotick9> !dvd | bustedz
[19:48] <loganrun> ha that bites
[19:48] <loganrun> vlc I think can play dvd fine
[19:48] <beachbum_Bob> how do i get rid of Xorg?
[19:49] <zykotick9> !text | beachbum_Bob
[19:49] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   corrupted .iso's can cause ubuntu to misbehave during live boot and/or mess up your installation.  Takes a few seconds to verify the integrity of your source software.  I strongly urge to you to follow the procedures in the url I sent to verify your installation media
[19:49] <loganrun> yeah gui is overrated
[19:49] <bustedz> i've done that, got the restricted packages/css installed but i think my problem is earlier; i literally can't see the filesystem or tell how to automount it
[19:49] <zykotick9> bustedz: you don't mount DVDs, you play them
[19:49] <bustedz> and don't really want to faff around with fstab unneccessarily
[19:49] <beachbum_Bob> thanks ubottu
[19:50] <loganrun> depends if the dvd is a data dvd or movie dvd
[19:50] <mohammadtiti> ok thanks....as soon as i completed checking i let you now
[19:50] <Xanthippus> Yep
[19:50] <loganrun> but they must be mounted to play
[19:50] <cfhowlett> bustedz   dual booting?   Does your dvd player work in the other OS?
[19:50] <loganrun> the os shoudl support the filesystem natively
[19:50] <loganrun> just can't decrypt the dvd video .vob files
[19:50] <loganrun> that is top secret
[19:50] <Xanthippus> B-)
[19:52] <stephans_> my mouns has reverse scrolling... how can I change that_
[19:52] <stephans_> ?
[19:52] <RenatoSilva> cfhowlett: so nothing new except that they make that unity crap mandatory?
[19:52] <CharminTheMoose> Why is it I can do 'sudo su', but not su root?
[19:52] <theadmin> CharminTheMoose: No root password
[19:52] <flash_> I just now updated my system by running sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade. When finished it seemed like it encountered an error. Now when I restart the machine it no more shows a GUI login, but instead tty.
[19:52] <loganrun> root is not a command
[19:52] <bustedz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/846295/
[19:52] <flash_> How can I fix this?
[19:52] <zykotick9> !notroot | CharminTheMoose
[19:52] <zykotick9> !noroot | CharminTheMoose
[19:53] <flash_> It is running in vmware, with vmware tools installed if it helps.
[19:53] <loganrun> root is the name of a user
[19:53] <cfhowlett> RenatoSilva   I only boot LTS so I'm not totally familiar with 11.+.  Sorry.
[19:53] <RenatoSilva> ok
[19:53] <loganrun> CharminTheMoose, you need to set a root password
[19:53] <CharminTheMoose> loganrun, but su stands for switch user. In this I wanted to do 'switch user root'
[19:53] <CharminTheMoose> loganrun, and I have set a root password
[19:53] <bustedz> i don't even see anything in syslog when inserting the disc though
[19:54] <bustedz> if someone could find my dvd player's remote control, that'd solve my problem too i guess. :)
[19:54] <wakec> hiho
[19:55] <cfhowlett> bustedz   did you address my dual boot question?  I ask because dvd/cdrom can fail silently.  Just replaced my drive after it stopped reading after 2 years - no warning.
[19:55] <bc81> heyas wakec
 the procedure shown in the link you sent didn't work on my laptop
[19:55] <CharminTheMoose> Slightly related question, how can I get gksu to work properly with synaptic? gksu -u root is probably not the Ubuntu Way?
[19:55] <theadmin> CharminTheMoose: gksudo synaptic
[19:55] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   "didn't work" means what exactly?
[19:55] <bustedz> cfhowlett: not dual booting, no.
[19:56] <korukor> flash_: did that really work? it should be 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:56] <mohammadtiti> i restarted my laptop in the boot option, there is this option saying: check disc for defects
[19:56] <beasty> zykotick9: ok i have booted now
[19:56] <wakec> Is Fedora good for laptop?
[19:56] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   not the same thing ...
[19:56] <zykotick9> !ot | wakec
[19:56] <beasty> zykotick9: but now for some reason i only see like 2 cm of my X on top
[19:56] <bustedz> hmm. i'm gonna go find a blank disc actually, see whether that magically works
[19:56] <flash_> Heh, it might have been that. I'm relatively new to ubuntu.
[19:57] <flash_> The problem is though, that I have no GUI now.
[19:57] <Xanthippus> wakec: I had fedora on my netbook and it was good!
[19:57] <zykotick9> beasty: i have no suggestions for that, good luck.
[19:57] <mohammadtiti> means the first process of which failed
[19:58] <cfhowlett> REDHAT - someone asked about getting ready for the RHCE - see this:  http://trouble-maker.sourceforge.net/
[19:58] <loganrun> CharminTheMoose, that is all that is required. do sudo -, then passwd root and set you password, then you can su with the password you just defined
[19:58] <mohammadtiti> typing in terminal the following commands: md5sum ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[19:58] <wakec> Xanthippus: better than ubuntu?
[19:58] <mohammadtiti> i did but it didn't work.
[19:58] <mohammadtiti> what should i do?
[19:59] <loganrun> CharminTheMoose, that is all that is required. do sudo -i, then passwd root and set you password, then you can su with the password you just defined
[19:59] <SirVilleta> hello
[19:59] <wakec> hiho
[19:59] <zykotick9> !noroot | loganrun
[19:59] <CharminTheMoose> Oh cool cheers theadmin
[19:59] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   pretty much means you have a corrupted Ubuntu there.  Use the windows md5sum check instead to verify, but you likely need to download the iso again.  Check sum the downloaded ISO and the burned CD.  Methods are in the link I sent you.
[19:59] <loganrun> CharminTheMoose, ps. don't do that since it is a bad idea
[19:59] <bustedz> inserting blank disc has no effect. i'mo smash
[20:00] <CharminTheMoose> Gotcha loganrun ;)
[20:00] <lahwran> how do I get the mail icon in the panel to go away?
[20:00] <cfhowlett> bustedz   boot and run your bios diagnostics to check the drive....
[20:00] <lahwran> it's annoying and I don't have space on the panel for it, but it doesn't have a "remove" button
[20:00] <mohammadtiti> how can i check it by my windows?
[20:00] <stephans_> Ok answered my own question with google... to reverse scrolling direction do this:http://maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/16
[20:01] <bc81> lahwran: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages (then log out, or restart whatever your panel is)
[20:01] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[20:01] <bustedz> cfhowlett: will do, cheers. if the drive has failed after 6 months and effectively zero use i'mo cry though
[20:01] <mohammadtiti> thanks
[20:01] <cfhowlett> bustedz   LOL
[20:04] <grendal-prime> can i query my kernel for something
[20:04] <grendal-prime> tproxy to be exact
[20:04] <GriGi> Hi, I got little problem and have no idea how to fix it. I got Ubuntu 11.10, when I turn on my EEEPC 1000H, I don't have sound until i plugin and plugout something into minijack
[20:05] <Guest81066> hi all
[20:05] <cfhowlett> Guest81066   greetings
[20:05] <GriGi> anybody know how to fix it? Earphones and everything on minijack works good, but I have to plugin/plugout and then sound from my netbook work. Sry for my bad english.
[20:06] <loganrun> grendal-prime, what do you want the kernel to tell you
[20:06] <cypher-neo> I have a question. Will uninstalling gnome-session mess anything up? I don't want to use fallback mode anymore, and I'm having issues with nautilus so i was planning on uninstalling both of those. Will this break Unity or GNOME Shell?
[20:06] <grendal-prime> if the kernel is compiled with tproxy support
[20:07] <loganrun> GriGi, sounds strange, did you take a look at the volume control panel when you are doing that?
[20:07] <Xanthippus> c ya guys
[20:08] <loganrun> GriGi, sounds like a channel is getting muted or something, not sure if ubuntu would do anything like that automatically. i assume you dont' have a short in the earphones
[20:09] <loganrun> grendal-prime, ahh, sounds like it is a plugin, maybe you can try and apt-get and install the package or something
[20:09] <cypher-neo> I have a question. Will uninstalling gnome-session mess anything up? I don't want to use fallback mode anymore, and I'm having issues with nautilus so i was planning on uninstalling both of those. Will this break Unity or GNOME Shell?
[20:10] <loganrun> cypher-neo, do you have unity installed?
[20:10] <cypher-neo> loganrun, I do, but I don't use it. I use GNOME Shell for everything.
[20:10] <GriGi> loganrun: I don't know if you understand what i wrote. Earphones works well, just when I turn on my netbook I can't hear the sound from buildin speakers, even if my volume is full
[20:10] <GriGi> i always have to plugin something to minijack, and then plugout
[20:10] <GriGi> then buildin speakers works good
[20:10] <cfhowlett> GriGi   Low sound or NO sound....
[20:11] <GriGi> No sound
[20:11] <GriGi> completely no sound, even if volume bar is full
[20:11] <bc81> GriGi: a longshot, but do you have any audio settings in your BIOS
[20:11] <GriGi> i can  control volume but it gives me nothing
[20:11] <cypher-neo> GriGi, Sounds like the speakers are defaulting to the jack even when it's unplugged.
[20:11] <GriGi> bc81: I don't know, I didn't check that, i have netbook, Asus EEEPC 1000H
[20:11] <theadmin> GriGi: I think you need to set a sane output channel in your mixer. If it's a laptop, set it to "PCM"
[20:12] <loganrun> GriGi, I see, wonder if there is a problem with the jack, but most probably there is something messed up with the mixer settings, did you right click on the speaker and open the volume settings and check everything out when you can't hear any sound? also, you can install a better mixer with more control over the hardware settings
[20:12] <brkolog> I'm getting error messages at boot from this laptop from USB:  ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 634
[20:12] <jsec> GriGi: terminal, run "alsamixer"
[20:12] <cypher-neo> loganrun, Will uninstalling nautilus or gnome-session (which seems to want to uninstall when I try deleting nautilus) hurt my computer?
[20:12] <OY1R> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82063234/
[20:12] <theadmin> cypher-neo: nautilus is the filemanager in Ubuntu, the default one. You'll lose certain things (the filemanager, duh, and the desktop icons), but other than that it's safe
[20:12] <OY1R> shh wrong chan
[20:12] <GriGi> jsec: Okay, i got alsamixer on, what should i check now?
[20:13] <bc81> GriGi: if any of that advice fails, you might try updating your BIOS (this is only noob advice, take it or leave it ;)
[20:13] <jsec> GriGi: scroll to the right until you see 'Auto-Mute' and let me know if it's enabled or disabled
[20:13] <cypher-neo> theadmin, Okay, well... let me describe the original problem. Maybe you can help me with it.
[20:13] <theadmin> cypher-neo: mk
[20:13] <cypher-neo> theadmin, This morning there was an update to nautilus, I think.
[20:13] <Malo> anyone espert with eeepc asus?
[20:14] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Can't be sure of that lol, don't really have any Ubuntu setup near me
[20:14] <cypher-neo> theadmin, Now whenever a nautilus window opens, a nautilus bar appears at the top of the screen and doesn't go away.
[20:14] <arnsa> guyz how can I add directory on terminal?
[20:14] <theadmin> cypher-neo: A bar?
[20:14] <cypher-neo> theadmin, I have to killall nautilus to make the bar disappear.
[20:14] <theadmin> arnsa: "add" as in create?
[20:14] <arnsa> theadmin, I need to add this: ppa:artfwo/ppa
[20:14] <zykotick9> arnsa: "mkdir foo"
[20:14] <theadmin> arnsa: That's a ppa, not a directory
[20:14] <cypher-neo> theadmin, It looks something like the titlebar that appears in Unity when you open a window.
[20:15] <bc81> !anyone | Malo
[20:15] <theadmin> arnsa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:artfwo/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:15] <arnsa> theadmin, oh sorry, I'm kinda new to all this stuff
[20:15] <cypher-neo> theadmin, But not being in Unity, it should not appear.
[20:15] <arnsa> ty
[20:15] <cypher-neo> theadmin, Wait a sec... I have a screenshot you can see.
[20:15] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Sounds like nautilus is calling globalmenu
[20:15] <GriGi> jsec: I got Master, [...], Mic Boost, Beep. And then I can't scroll to right. "Beep" is the last position.
[20:15] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Hm... It might or might not do that. Try using pcmanfm, see if it does that too
[20:15] <jsec> GriGi: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:15] <GriGi> 11.10
[20:15] <GriGi> I think i didn't have that bug in 10.10
[20:16] <cypher-neo> theadmin, pcmanfm? Terminal command?
[20:16] <MrKeuner> hello, created a source.list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, yet synaptic does not see that repository, what am I missing?
[20:16] <theadmin> cypher-neo: pcmanfm is a filemanager, install it via apt-get and run it, see if it works for you :)
[20:16] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Random suggestion, any other would do too (thunar, dolphin, ...)
[20:17] <cypher-neo> theadmin, It's sad, cause I like Nautilus. Is there any way to uninstall globalmenu?
[20:17] <jsec> GriGi: ok, alsamixer again and then hit F6
[20:17] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Not so sure, might need to uninstall all of unity
[20:17] <zykotick9> MrKeuner: 1) it's sourceS.list 2) does that actually belong in sources.list.d?
[20:17] <theadmin> cypher-neo: If you like Nautilus, hm, you can try Thunar then -- it feels like a clone of Nautilus (although somewhat more senseful)
[20:17] <MrKeuner> zykotick9, it is a puppetmasterrepository.list file
[20:18] <GriGi> jsec: I got "(default)" and "HDA Intel", and "enter device name..."
[20:18] <sanjeev90an> how can i join parts of a movie in ubuntu?
[20:18] <cypher-neo> theadmin, I'm trying something else in addition to that.
[20:18] <cfhowlett> sanjeev90an   openshot or ffmpeg
[20:18] <jsec> GriGi: select HDA Intel
[20:19] <mohammadtiti> dear <cfhowlett> as you guessed the md5sum mismatched. now i have one more question: what is the difference between ubuntu dvd version with its cd versions?
[20:19] <cypher-neo> theadmin, I looked up globalmenu in my repository... I realized the package I saw that got an update...
[20:19] <cypher-neo> theadmin, was firefox-globalmenu and thunderbird-globalmenu
[20:19] <cypher-neo> theadmin, I'm uninstalling those. ;)
[20:19] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Those don't have anything to do with it (they provide integration for ff/tb for Unity's top bar thingo)
[20:20] <GriGi> jsec: Okay, you thing that could help?
[20:20] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   the dvd contains ALL of the languages - not something you'd need on a daily basis...
[20:20] <GriGi> jsec: I got HDA Intel, and still can't see any "Auto-Mute"
[20:20] <MrKeuner> zykotick9, never mind me. my problem was working with multiple hosts at the same time :)
[20:20] <mohammadtiti> ok thank you very much for you time
[20:21] <cfhowlett> mohammadtiti   have fun/be safe
[20:21] <mohammadtiti> you 3-1
[20:21] <Phillsen> Hi Guys, spricht einer von euch deutsch?
[20:21] <jsec> GriGi: if HDA has been selected, go ahead and try to play some sound
[20:21] <cfhowlett> !de|phillsen
[20:21] <loganrun> dude
[20:21] <Phillsen> thx
[20:22] <cypher-neo> theadmin, Thanks for your help. Once you helped me figure out what nautilus was calling I found this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/65705/how-to-remove-global-menu-from-gnome-shell
[20:23] <cypher-neo> theadmin, I think I'll try what's there too.
[20:23] <GriGi> jsec: Yeah, it works. But I have to restart netbook to check. Because I don't got sound until i plugin and plugout something to minijack, then build in speakers works. Im gonna leave, and check that. Thanks for advices.
[20:23] <theadmin> cypher-neo: That should work yeah (removing the appmenu packages seems like a sensible solution)
[20:23] <ehsan_> Hi
[20:24] <cypher-neo> theadmin, SIGH! I wish Unity would stop fixing things that weren't broken in the first place.
[20:24] <cfhowlett> ehsan_   greetings
[20:24] <Herman_> Hi
[20:24] <cfhowlett> Herman_   greetings
[20:25] <Herman_> Bow 2 me
[20:26] <Herman_> I am teh guy that criated everything.
[20:26] <cfhowlett> !ot|herman_
[20:26] <Herman_> Im not 13yra old if that's war ur thinkin
[20:27] <ehsan_> I installed grub-imageboot and did "update-grub" in grub.cfg there is this line: initrd16 /images/kubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso which will load /boot/images/...    can I do something that instead of /boot directory it would go look for the image somewhere els?like in /sda2/images
[20:27] <Herman_> Want proof? A/S/L is 13billion/M/Heaven
[20:27] <loganrun> is there a way to stop windows from being automaximized when they are dragged near the boarder of the screen?
[20:28] <aadrian__> does anybody know here can I find old mouse themes?
[20:30] <orville> hello folks, need some help. i'm getting the following error. dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-removal script: Permission denied
[20:30] <orville> does anyone know a possible solution?
[20:30] <spacebug-> orville: du you use sudo before the command?
[20:30] <orville> spacebug-: yes
[20:30] <mattt_> Any idea why apt-get update would be retrieving empty or incomplete package lists?
[20:31] <orville> spacebug-: but su-ing to root doesn't solve this
[20:31] <orville> problem
[20:31] <spacebug-> could it be that some other process has locked the file it wants to change
[20:31] <spacebug-> like you have synaptic running or somehting?
[20:32] <orville> spacebug-: aptitude was running before. but i quit it.
[20:32] <orville> perhaps it crashed instead of quit...
[20:32] <bc81> aadrian__: you can check herehttp://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=36  maybe edit one of those theme packs
[20:32] <spacebug-> orville: could be. See if any process is still alive
[20:33] <orville> spacebug-: nein
[20:33] <spacebug-> hum
[20:33] <orville> indeed
[20:34] <spacebug-> orville: it looks like the package you want to uninstall installed a removeal script that it cannot execuet
[20:34] <GriGi> Still nothing. But it's not big deal, I can live with that bug. But I have another question, I got my profile with password. When I login I don't have to type that password, but when I see my wallpaper, then window called something like "Type password to unlock the ring" appear, and I have to type password. What I have to do, to type password, before login, in the login screen?
[20:34] <spacebug-> orville: setuid set on that file maybe?
[20:34] <orville> spacebug-: i've mounted my /var partition and set it to noexec
[20:35] <GriGi> Now I got only "login" button, no space to type password. But in settings I got checked: ask for password, or something like that.
[20:35] <orville> spacebug-: but noexec should allow scripts to run, not executables
[20:35] <orville> so that shouldn't be an issue
[20:35] <GriGi> Short version: It asks for password, after login, not before.;)
[20:35] <PhantomPhreak53> Anyone have a good HOWTO for setting up an email server?
[20:36] <wmp> hello, after last upgrade i havent audio only in flash, and i don;t know what i can do with this
[20:36] <spacebug-> orville: I'm not sure. I think you are not alloved to execute any file are you?
[20:36] <spacebug-> orville: you could try to change the setting to allow execute to test
[20:37] <aBound> PhantomPhreak53, I suggest "Google" and typing: Setting up an email server
[20:37] <aBound> :P
[20:37] <PhantomPhreak53> I'm not retarded
[20:37] <PhantomPhreak53> haha
[20:37] <orville> spacebug-: yup. i'll look into that
[20:37] <PhantomPhreak53> I would say 80% of HOWTOs on the net are poorly written or very out dated
[20:38] <Freeman> Всем привет тут есть русские?)
[20:38] <aBound> PhantomPhreak53, Best to stick to certain books because I believe the same.
[20:39] <theadmin> !ru | Freeman
[20:39] <cfhowlett> PhantomPhreak53   see  http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Uubntu+email+server+tutorial&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[20:40] <evildaemon> God I hate bad hot-to's.
[20:40] <evildaemon> *how-to's
[20:41] <evildaemon> They always leave out that critical small step thats stumps you for hours.
[20:41] <bc81> you should write a how-to on writing how-to's
[20:41] <Freeman> Hi to all
[20:41] <aBound> PhantomPhreak53, You could try reading: The Book of Postfix: State-of-the-Art Message Transport
[20:42] <cfhowlett> Freeman   *Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeman!* [couldn't resist]  Greetings.
[20:43] <Freeman> Who ever plays in cs?
[20:43] <GriGi> Me, why you are asking?
[20:44] <Freeman> Just wondering became
[20:45] <jk7> hia
[20:45] <cfhowlett> jk7   greeting
[20:46] <Freeman> People who from what country?
[20:46] <cfhowlett> !ot|freeman
[20:46] <jk7> Have a trouble with dist upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. While running "update-manager --dist-upgrade" receive error message "Unable to get exclusive lock" however no apt, dpkg, synaptic is running.
[20:47] <pangolin> jk7: use sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:47] <Poindexter_> Guys, if I download Xubuntu from this site does anyone know if it is a government website and why is Xubuntu changed?   http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/11.10/release/
[20:48] <jk7> pangolin, thnx it seems work
[20:48] <cfhowlett> Poindexter_   download from www.ubuntu.com
[20:49] <Poindexter_> Thanks I will.
[20:49] <Poindexter_> I did download Ubuntu but Xubuntu is what I want.
[20:50] <cfhowlett> Poindexter_   although ANL is a legit government agency.  They appear to host download mirrors for ubuntu.  Don't know what "changes to xubuntu" you refer to...
[20:50] <pangolin> http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[20:50] <bc81> use the torrents
[20:51] <jk7> I suppose it is bug with issue mentioned above.
[20:51] <kosto> hello
[20:51] <Freeman> People of the operating system of the Ylmf 2.0 can support files Ubuntu?
[20:52] <jk7> thnx, bye
[20:53] <Poindexter_> Just want to know before installing it.
[20:53] <Poindexter_> Thanks for the input.  :)
[20:54] <GriGi> Now I remember. In 10.10 there was an option "ask about password", and I check it out. Now in 11.10 I can't see that option, there are just "login automatically". But still I isn't asking me about password, just window appear asking for password "to unlock keyring database"
[20:54] <GriGi> still it isn't*
[20:55] <tacomaster> is anyone here decent at c programming because i wrote a program and it seemingly works but i just want someone to check it to make sure i didn't mess something up. i tried to ask in #c but they just gave me a link to a c programming book?? its only 31 lines of code so its pretty short its at http://pastebin.com/dmbt5yBv as of right now the if statement should generate a random number between 1-255 and loop back if the user pr
[20:57] <MFen> anyone have a clue why my middle mouse button doesn't work right since upgrading to oneiric? it *works*, but middlemouse+drag no longer works
[20:57] <MFen> this makes it really annoying to use gimp, and it forced me to change my resize shortcut
[20:57] <xangua> MFen: you mean alt+middle clic¿
[20:58] <xangua> MFen: middle clic alone doesn't drag anything
[20:58] <MFen> xangua: yeah, i had to change alt+middle+drag to alt+right+drag
[20:59] <MFen> because middle+drag does nothing any more. resize and gimp are the main places i use that, but it's a huge efficiency booster in both cases
[20:59] <MFen> and it's frustrating to lose it
[20:59] <MFen> in gimp, i can't change the shortcut so i'm boned
[21:00] <MFen> this is with my laptop's builtin middle button
[21:00] <MFen> (external mouse still works, but i rarely use one)
[21:01] <MFen> i'm thinking compiz stomped on the shortcut somehow
[21:03] <MFen> actually no, that doesn't make sense because external mouse works...
[21:05] <MFen> maybe tpconfig can help
[21:08] <MFen> oddly quiet in here for 1528 people
[21:08] <markus_> hi, I have just installed xbuntu on top of my ubuntu but now i cant choose between the two.
[21:08] <markus_> can anybody help me ?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> markus_  in the login menu
[21:09] <cfhowlett> markus_   installed the full distro to just the DE?
[21:09] <markus_> what is the de?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> desktop environment
[21:09] <markus_> i think just the DE
[21:10] <markus_> i used sudo install xubunt-desktop
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> markus_  logout, choose xubuntu in the menu
[21:11] <joren> Hey, I've got a serve rwith a raid setup that I just replaced a disk in, and it's taking for ever to come up now (been waiting 5 minutes so far)
[21:12] <joren> there seems to be no disk activity
[21:12] <bustedz> so i've made progress with my dvd drive but have hit a wall that lots of other folks have also hit
[21:12] <joren> and the last thing it said was /dev/md1 clean
[21:12] <bustedz> trying to force a mount returns "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0"
[21:13] <bustedz> all the threads i can find seem to be about acer laptops, which makes me suspect some stupid firmware issue
[21:14] <loganrun> how do I move the icons around on the launcher bar, I don't like the order
[21:14] <bc81> MFen: is this of any use to you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/710762
[21:14] <MFen> bc81: looking
[21:14] <mint> is it possible o set a password for the live user who doesnt have a password?
[21:14] <joren> bustedz, you could look around in dmesg, around where it talks about /dev/sr0 and see if it mentions anything about firmware
[21:15] <markus_> MonkeyDust_ tried logging out and also restarting but it still goes directly to xubuntu
[21:15] <MFen> bc81: no, i think that's an issue with emulate3buttons, which is off for me, and not the same problem anyway
[21:15] <MFen> thanks though
[21:15] <cfhowlett> markus_   reboot...
[21:16] <loganrun> Ha Italian police seize $6 trillion in fake treasury bonds. no one would notice the way the current administration spends money
[21:16] <cfhowlett> !ot|loganrun
[21:16] <markus_> cfhowlett_ I have rebooted twice
[21:16] <mint> how can i set a password for the live user?
[21:16] <loganrun> does anyone know how to move the icons around on the launcher bar
[21:17] <h00k> mint: Which distro are you currently on?
[21:17] <h00k> loganrun: drag them to the right of the launcher bar, then up/down
[21:17] <mint> h00k:  maverick
[21:17] <h00k> !remaster | mint
[21:18] <mint> im not asking about remastering..
[21:18] <mint> im asking if you can set a password for the live user
[21:18] <h00k> mint: you'd remaster the live disk with a different password.
[21:19] <mint> but my question is: is it possible (and how) to set a password for the live user im logged in as
[21:19] <Flannel> mint: `passwd`
[21:19] <h00k> mint: from a terminal: passwd ubuntu
[21:20] <mint> perfect
[21:21] <aBound> Hey all I have what they seemed to call poor "Jack Detection" for Ubuntu 11.10. When I sometimes boot up the computer and plug in my headphones it never gets detected nor when I unplug the headphones the sound doesn't work. Unless, I log off and log back in I presume this has to do with Ubuntu 11.10 more than my laptop.
[21:21] <mint> authentication token manipulation error
[21:21] <mint> ah.. ran with sudo.. worked this time
[21:22] <elkingrey> Does anybody know how to get a new dell computer with Ubuntu pre-installed, or at least without Windows?
[21:22] <markus_> Is there a way to check if my gnome desktop is still there ?
[21:25] <sorenmacbeth> hello all, anyone have an idea what happened to sun-java6-jdk in the partner repo?
[21:26] <zykotick9> sorenmacbeth: Oracle changed licensing, only Oracle can distribute now
[21:26] <clouder`grr> I'm using passwd in a shell script, but it's telling me command not found if I type it into putty manually it works fine, and trying /usr/bin/passwd in the script gave me no such file or directory.  what's going on here?
[21:27] <sorenmacbeth> zykotick9: Are they going to provide an apt repo for it? I know they have RPMs on the download site.
[21:27] <sorenmacbeth> zykotick9: got a link I could checkout with more info?
[21:27] <zykotick9> sorenmacbeth: i have no idea
[21:29] <Buby> whats a good irc server package. looking for something very lightweight
[21:31] <mongy> sorenmacbeth: google webupd8 oracle 7 ppa
[21:31] <sorenmacbeth> mongy: cheers
[21:32] <markus__> you were right. I had to reboot and LOOOK. lol. the option to start with xface or gnome was there all along.
[21:33] <markus__> thanks
[21:33] <caenecse> hello
[21:33] <Strav> Hi! Since the last couple of weeks, I'm experiencing random shutdowns on my thinkpad x200, running ubuntu 11.10 (as if the power was suddenly cut). It seems to coincide with the installation of a ssd drive although nothing is certain. ATM I'm doing several tests to determine what would the exact cause be. So far, there's not much in the logs (although I ain't sure where should I look) and it probably not a temperature issue since I had
[21:33] <Strav> one of those shutdown right after resuming from suspend (everything was cool as can be). I did quick and extended smart tests on my ssd and it seems to be fine; last thing I'm about to check is the main memory I'm just waiting for the live cd to download. Anyone has some suggestion on how should I further proceed?
[21:33] <Buby> whats a good irc server package. looking for something very lightweight.
[21:33] <caenecse> can anyone help me with my tv card?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Buby  irssi, it's a command line interface
[21:34] <module000> MonkeyDust: irssi != "irc server".
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> idd, i misread that
[21:34] <haux> How do I change the drive on which GRUB is installed?
[21:34] <module000> haux: grub-install /your/drive
[21:35] <caenecse> who knows how to set my tv card?
[21:35] <module000> Strav: look at the logs, you said 'not much', but anything is useful. otherwise look at your PSU if the logs say nothing at all
[21:36] <haux> haux@splozi:~$ grub-install /dev/sda		Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[21:36] <haux> sed: can't read /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory		grep: /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory		/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[21:36] <Buby> Does anyone have any experience with running a irc server?
[21:37] <Buby> ircd-irc2 vs ircd-hybrid or maybe you prefer another package
[21:37] <caenecse> help with tv card please, too difficult, God!
[21:37] <orangepnut> When I minimize skype and or skype chat windows they disappear and when I click the skype icon it just launches another instance of skype.  How do I fix this?
[21:37] <Guest42003> can someone assist with alt codes ? does it matter if it is left or right alt that i am holding down with numlock on  and using the 10 key to enter nsbers while alt is held. when i releasn i don't have anything when i release alt
[21:38] <Strav> module000: thanks. Sorry but I'm not really used to thinker with hardware. Is there anything I should look for on the psu?
[21:38] <djbenny> @orangepnut click on the skype icon in the top statusbar then activate
[21:38] <module000> Strav: the simplest test is to replace it, but i'd focus on the logs before you jump to hardware
[21:39] <haux> module000, any suggestions based on that output?
[21:39] <caenecse> somebody help me with my tv card
[21:39] <Strav> module000: ok, well I'll just wait for another shutdown to happend and rescan everything, the main file to check would be: dmesg, syslog and kern.log right?
[21:39] <orangepnut> djbenny, I'm new to ubuntu but I only have a skype icon on the left bar
[21:39] <module000> Strav: look at messages/daemon log also
[21:39] <Strav> module000: thanks :)
[21:39] <module000> haux: is /dev/sda the correct disk?
[21:40] <djbenny> orangepnut but once its open it will bring an icon  next to the clock at the top
[21:40] <Strav> brb
[21:40] <caenecse> help
[21:40] <caenecse> tv card
[21:40] <caenecse> help again
[21:40] <cfhowlett> !patience|caenecse
[21:40] <orangepnut> djbenny, I currently have it open and there's no skype icon next to the clock just mail, internet, sound
[21:41] <caenecse> ok
[21:41] <haux> module000, /dev/sda is the drive on which I want to install grub. Currently, it is installed on /dev/sdb. But yes, sda is a valid device.
[21:42] <djbenny> orangepnut then how do you know it opems multiple sessions?
[21:42] <orangepnut> djbenny, because when i click the skype icon again to try and reopen the windows i had minimized it just asks me to login again and when i check the system monitor it says skype is still running
[21:42] <djbenny> hmm
[21:43] <module000> haux: what type of partition table do you have on /dev/sda?
[21:43] <haux> module000, I have 3 drives. a 64GB ssd (sda), a 1TB seagate (sdb), and a 500GB WD (sdc). I originally mixed up the SATA cables when I did my OS installs and the Seagate 1TB took the GRUB install. I have since rearranged the cables and want to correct this.
[21:44] <haux> module000, Disc Utility says "Partition Type: Linux (0x83)" ?
[21:44] <module000> haux: no that's the partition, i mean what type of table doe sthe disk have. view it by typing `parted /dev/sda` in console, then tell it "print"
[21:44] <module000> haux: you're looking for either MSDOS, GPT, or something more exotic. if it says "unknown disk label", that's why it isn't working(means no table at all, ala a new drive)
[21:45] <systemclient> I installed GRUB to sda and sdb. How can I remove it from sda?
[21:47] <haux> module000, hopefully I am not confusing this. /dev/sda is ext4. Is that what you are referring to?
[21:47] <module000> haux: nono. /dev/sda is a *disk*.  /dev/sda1 is a *partition*. you install grub to disks, not partitions.
[21:47] <module000> haux: partitions can be ext4, disks cannot
[21:48] <module000> haux: so if `grub-install /dev/sda` fails, you could examine the partition table of that disk by looking at the output of `parted /dev/sda`
[21:48] <clouder`grr> I figured it out, it was a line ending issue :/
[21:48] <haux> module000, it brought up the "(parted)" prompt, how do I find out the filesystem?
[21:50] <module000> haux: just type 'print'
[21:50] <module000> haux: that will return a list of the partitions on the disk, and the partition table type of the disk itself.
[21:51] <haux> module000, MSDOS.
[21:51] <module000> haux: okay, so the partition table is good on that disk. next question is why `grub-install /dev/sda` fails to install on it. did you google the error message it returns? i haven't seen that before
[21:52] <haux> module000, I know why.
[21:52] <haux> module000, I might be an idiot. I didn't use sudo.
[21:52] <haux> module000, it looks like it was successful this time.
[21:52] <module000> haux: =P
[21:53] <haux> based on the output.
[21:53] <haux> note to self, don't try to fix stuff after two glasses of rum.
[21:53] <Nitrostemp> anyone know about the video issue with ati on laptops?
[21:53] <cfhowlett> haux   right !
[21:53] <diverdude> Hello, when i go to places and press connect to server and write the address to my server...port 22 and my home dir...insert username/password it says ssh  program unexpectedly exited. What am I missing?
[21:54] <haux> module000, so I should reboot now and follow whatever grub prompts me to do from there?
[21:54] <module000> haux: yep, with sane BIOS settings you should boot from /dev/sda, which will be grub for you now
[21:55] <haux> I have a 100mb partition where grub is installed right now. If this works, I can delete that partition?
[21:55] <haux> (on the 1TB seagate)
[21:55] <haux> Maybe I should say, where grub was installed before.
[21:56] <diverdude> anyone?
[21:56] <Assil> does anyone use mod_security2 with apache2 ?
[21:56] <haux> Well I assume i can delete the old one if this works out. Thanks for the help!
[21:57] <trever420> diverdude: are you forwarding the port correctly?
[21:57] <Assil> does anyone use mod_security2 with apache2 ?
[21:58] <diverdude> trever420: yeah
[21:59] <diverdude> trever420: port 22 right?
[21:59] <trever420> yes, did you set that up in your router?
[21:59] <diverdude> trever420: yeah and i am right now trying only on LAN
[21:59] <diverdude> trever420: i can do ssh cli connect no problem
[22:00] <diverdude> trever420: but when i want to display files in a grphical interface like nautilus i get the error
[22:00] <Jake_J> Does anyone know how to enable read write support for hfs+
[22:00] <trever420> diverdude: oh... i dont know about using SSH over a GUI
[22:00] <trever420> (isnt that sshx?)
[22:01] <trever420> i dunno if i've ever even heard of that before
[22:01] <trever420> ssh -x i guess is what that is
[22:01] <Assil> Hello ! does anyone use mod_security2 with apache2 ?
[22:01] <bc81> Jake_J: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[22:02] <haux> module000, ok... it brings up the grub prompt. "help" isn't very specific. I'm not sure how to configure it..
[22:02] <bc81> !anyone | Assil
[22:03] <Assil> !details
[22:04] <Assil> bc81 do you ?
[22:04] <Jake_J> bc81: I can't boot into osx. Need to mount as rw in ubuntu so I can free up enough space to allow the osx repair tool to run
[22:06] <Jake_J> bc81: Or is osx the only way to disable journaling?
[22:06] <adishanbhag> Hello, Have been in a mix here.. and would appreciate some inputs in this regard. I have just deployed Ubuntu 11.10 (official ebs ami) on amazon and went out merrily making a raid. One reboot and the raid which was constructed as md0 falls back to become md127. On a dedicated server I can go ahead with the update initrd and then would work.. on amazon it gets stuck at boot and doesnt work
[22:06] <bc81> Jake_J: i have no way of knowing that, but i suspect that it's the only way
[22:10] <haux> Ok, I just installed grub on /dev/sda when previous it was installed on /dev/sdb. /dev/sda is now the first drive in the SATA channels, so all it does is boot to the GRUB prompt. Is there any sort of auto configure option? I'm not sure how to configure this.
[22:10] <haux> *previously
[22:10] <egb> hi. is there any fix for this? mouse pointer too sensitive. it moves around even if i just rest my finger on the hp touch-pad. it seem like it feels my heartbeat :) i played with mouse settings but couldn't fix it. thank you
[22:11] <egb> i am on ubuntu 10.044
[22:12] <Jake_J> Hi, sorry I was having network issues before
[22:13] <branch> ok. two weeks back I played around with my system date. But now - every time I turn on my computer, I have to set the year to 2016... Otherwise I get messages such as the system "can not find /". I'm on ubuntu 11.10 .... Any tips ?
[22:13] <Jake_J> Does anyone know how to mount a hfs drive as rw in ubuntu. I need to free up some space on the drive so that I can run the osx repair tool
[22:14] <haux> Jake_J, you're trying to write to a HFS partition?
[22:14] <bc81> Jake_J: everything i've read so far says that you must disable journaling from within OSX before being able to mount with r/w permissions in linux
[22:15] <haux> I believe linux can't write to HFS by default. You need to install software for that.
[22:17] <bc81> egb: have you seen the Boot-Repair graphical tool?  i'ts easy to reinstall/repair grub2 from the live-cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[22:17] <doolec_> what's the command line command to share an ubuntu folder with windows computer over a lan
[22:18] <egb> bc81: wow is this spam on ubuntu chat room? i dont have any prob with grub... thanks
[22:18] <bc81> egb: sorry, meant for haux
[22:19] <egb> bc81: i thought so. no problem. :)
[22:19] <FatsDT> I'm trying to compile tigervnc (It needs to be compiled within the xorg-server source). The compile fails with "fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory".  The libdrm-dev package is installed, and drm.h is in /usr/include/drm/.  What gives?
[22:20] <cfhowlett> Jake_J    boot the OSX disc, use Disk Utilities to make repairs...
[22:20] <kingnebex> guys does any 1 know any web page that has a number of catories
[22:21] <cortman> kingnebex, No, I know of no web pages containing catories.
[22:21] <Jake_J> cfhowlett: Yup, the repair tool says I need to free up space however. Hence my trying to mount the dis k as rw in ubuntu
[22:21] <Pici> kingnebex: catories?
[22:21] <kingnebex>  guys does any 1 know any web page that has a number of category of ubuntu utilities like softwares and acesories and games?
[22:21] <cortman> Ah, categories.
[22:21] <haux> bc81, I haven't tried that yet, but I did just install a "grub-customizer" which is supposed to be a GUI tool. If this doesn't work, I will try what you recommended. Thanks!
[22:21] <cortman> This 1 knows about the Ubuntu software center. You can access that from ubuntu.
[22:22] <BlouBlou> kingnebex: http://www.getdeb.net/ << try this
[22:22] <kingnebex> thanx blo ima check it out
[22:25] <haux> bc81, "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" would have solved all of my problems 30min ago. Thank you very much!
[22:29] <mnowluck> anyone on?
[22:29] <mnowluck> i need some help
[22:29] <mnowluck> i just downloaded ubuntu through utorrent and I have the ISO
[22:29] <cortman> Through a torrent??
[22:29] <mnowluck> i want to load it inside my windows without burning
[22:29] <mnowluck> it to a DVD/cd.,what's the easiest way to do tha?
[22:30] <cortman> mnowluck, why a torrent. Get from the Ubuntu website.
[22:30] <mnowluck> cortman: from ubuntu's website
[22:30] <mnowluck> :)
[22:30] <Pici> cortman: There are official torrents distributed from ubuntu.com
[22:30] <Pici> !torrents | in fact
[22:31] <cortman> My bad! :(
[22:31] <mnowluck> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[22:31] <cfhowlett> cortman   install to virtual box
[22:32] <cortman> cortman's rapidly stiffening corpse rolls away from computer screen
[22:32] <mnowluck> cfhowlett: yea i know how to do it using vbox, but that's not wot I want
[22:32] <Pici> mnowluck: You want Wubi?
[22:32] <mnowluck> yes
[22:32] <mnowluck> Pici: do i just download that installer?
[22:33] <Pici> mnowluck: Yeah, via http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[22:33] <Jake_J> I think I've found a C program that disables journaling for hfs+ drives, but I'm rather lost when it comes to compiling and such. see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420673
[22:34] <mnowluck> @Pici will i need to burn it first to a cd?
[22:35] <mnowluck> my DVD writer stops working since last nite so that's my prob
[22:35] <vindav> Hello, I am learning as I go.  I am a Ubuntu 11.10 newbie user that wants to back up the local Ubuntu 11.0 drive to my local network.  Can anyone help me please to figure out what to do and what program that needs to be used for this application ?
[22:35] <Uncle_Fester> hello
[22:35] <Uncle_Fester> i have a problem
[22:36] <Uncle_Fester> i am not getting amy sound
[22:36] <Uncle_Fester> can anyone help me?
[22:36] <Uncle_Fester> it just happened
[22:36] <jost> Uncle_Fester, have you checked if the sound is muted?
[22:36] <Uncle_Fester> yes
[22:36] <jost> this happens sometimes...
[22:37] <jost> checked Alsamixer?
[22:37] <haux> Ok, this is getting annoying. When I reboot, all I ever get is a grub prompt. How the hell do I get rid of that and replace it with a friggin boot menu?
[22:37] <Uncle_Fester> no, how do i?
[22:38] <Uncle_Fester> this would be fime if i watched silent movies
[22:38] <mnowluck> Pici ?
[22:38] <Uncle_Fester> but its really anoying
[22:38] <Jake_J> Uncle_Fester:  the volume icon should be top right of the screen left of the time
[22:38] <Uncle_Fester> yes i see
[22:39] <Uncle_Fester> i got it turned up all the way
[22:39] <Uncle_Fester> and its not mute
[22:40] <OerHeks> Uncle_Fester, what did you do, before this sound issue happened ?
[22:40] <Uncle_Fester> nothing different?
[22:40] <Uncle_Fester> oh
[22:40] <Uncle_Fester> i installed a router
[22:41] <BrendanMcc> hey guys, really rare question. I am running GNS3, an Ubuntu based Platform that does virtual Cisco stuff so I can do my CCNA. The instructions are to unzip -p xxx.bin > xxx.image  but I get an error.. How to I extract a .bin file? Googled to no avail :s
[22:41] <Uncle_Fester> dont see how that would affect anything
[22:41] <jhn775> quit
[22:43] <gr33n7007h> whats the flag to make wpa_supplicant daemonized??
[22:44] <Uncle_Fester> i get sound in windows
[22:45] <Jake_J> Uncle_Fester: right click the volume icon and click on sound settings>then click hardware and check if the correct output is selected
[22:45] <OerHeks> BrendanMcc, i don't see how you can unzip a .bin
[22:45] <Jake_J> Uncle_Fester: not hardware, meant output
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> BrendanMcc: mark te file executable and run it
[22:46] <Uncle_Fester> yes there is only one
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[22:48] <Uncle_Fester> ok
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> (22:48:33) Uncle_Fester: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=52e8f666f71a403de6cec0e793086b0a135978a2
[22:49] <Uncle_Fester> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=52e8f666f71a403de6cec0e793086b0a135978a2
[22:49] <Uncle_Fester> ok i didnt know if there was sensitve info
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[22:50] <tony_> hey guys :)
[22:50] <napalm54> Howdy
[22:50] <tony_> this is scary, first time in an irc channel @_@
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: personally I wouldn't bother, Maverick is EOL in April, I'd install a later release like Oneiric and it may help
[22:51] <napalm54> Never used IRC before?  Well, welcome
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> tony_: its dead handy for support :)
[22:51] <tony_> should i go somewhere for support specific to kubuntu?
[22:52] <Riddell> tony_: #kubuntu is worth a try
[22:52] <tony_> alrighty, thanks guys!
[22:52] <napalm54> Canonical is ending support for Kubuntu right?
[22:52] <Uncle_Fester> i didnt like the release that came after maverick
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/149126
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: why, what's wrong with Natty?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: after April you will get no updates and no support here
[22:54] <Uncle_Fester> i didnt like the desktoip
[22:54] <gr33n7007h> how do you update kernel 2.6.39.4 to 3.2 precise
[22:54] <tony_> You don't like Unity?
[22:54] <Uncle_Fester> never tried
[22:54] <Uncle_Fester> whats the latest?
[22:55] <tony_> Well, 11.04 and 11.10 both run Unity...
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: if you use xubuntu, it will look the same as Gnome2
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> tony_: not if you install a different desktop
[22:57] <Uncle_Fester> i like the gnome deskltop
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: latest is 11.10 but 12.04 is out in April and is LTS
[22:57] <Uncle_Fester> will i keep all the downloaded programs idf i update
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: the Unity desktop is default in Gnome based Ubuntu, you can use XFCE and your Gnome apps will run just fine
[22:58] <uni4dfx> why is #wine invite-only?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: you can update, or clean install. An upgrade will keep the apps. The PPA I gave may fix your sound issue in the present install
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> uni4dfx: get indentified and you can walk in
[22:58] <zykotick9> !register | uni4dfx
[22:58] <Uncle_Fester> i'm looking at updates and it just shows 11.04
[22:58] <BrendanMcc> ActionParsnip: I'm new at this.. a little hint?
[22:58] <playit> anyone know how to change the default load location of an app?
[22:59] <playit> (position and size)
[22:59] <tony_> what do you mean default load location?
[22:59] <playit> firefox always loads all the way to the left ( which I don't like ) I want it to be centered
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> BrendanMcc: when is the file located and what is it's name?
[22:59] <uni4dfx> There is no way in hell I am registering on an IRC server.
[23:00] <napalm54> Why not?
[23:00] <uni4dfx> because it's completely redundant
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> playit: compiz can specify workspaces where an app starts, you can also use devilspie (use gdevilspie to configure (available from google-code0)
[23:00] <BrendanMcc> its located at /opt/GNS3/IOS/cat2820a.9.00..04.bin
[23:00] <Uncle_Fester> should i rebootfor the changes to be effective?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: I would, yes
[23:01] <napalm54> uni4dfx: How is it completely redundant?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> BrendanMcc: what does the file do?
[23:01] <playit> also Ubuntu 11.10 default background + gnome 3.2 with ubuntu orangeness / scrollness is awesome
[23:01] <Uncle_Fester> ok brb
[23:02] <uni4dfx> napalm54 it is pointless and serves no purpose other than nickname hogging
[23:03] <playit> i googled and it said to change a setting in compiz
[23:03] <zykotick9> uni4dfx: registering serves several purposes, you just don't understand them.  If you don't want to register that's fine, just don't join the channels that require it - problem solved.
[23:03] <playit> now i don't know if im using or should be using compiz in ubuntu 11.10 running 'gnome-shell' which is Gnome 3.2
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> uni4dfx: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents   explains why its a good idea
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> playit: ps -ef | grep -i compiz     will show if you are ;)
[23:04] <aBound> As far as I know gnome-shell uses mutter.
[23:05] <aBound> gnome-shell isn't integrated with compiz and from what the developers say won't be integrated with compiz.
[23:05] <uni4dfx> ActionParsnip right... like i said, nickname hogging and avoiding complications (invite only channels) that didn't need to exist in the first place :P
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> uni4dfx: its the choice of the channel maintainer. I suggest you take it up in #freenode
[23:06] <playit> what would it look like if i was using compiz??
[23:06] <uni4dfx> ActionParsnip i know i know... i better shut up
[23:06] <BrendanMcc> ActionParsnip: Its an image for a cisco IOS router
[23:06] <playit> can i post the information safely or does it have private stuff
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> playit: it will output a compiz process (you will always get a grep process)
[23:06] <Uncle_Fester> well still no sound
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> BrendanMcc: I suggest you ask in a cisco channel
[23:06] <gribouille> hi
[23:07] <gribouille> I try to unmount a device, but umout says the device is busy. neither lsof nor fuser report anything about the device. how can I know what's happening?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: is your pwd within the mount point?
[23:07] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, no
[23:07] <BrendanMcc> ActionParsnip: Tks. Already did.. They've pointed me in a few directions... So now the fun task of reading it up
[23:08] <intel> hello
[23:08] <Uncle_Fester> is this the latest release Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot)
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: the latest stable, yes
[23:08] <Uncle_Fester> is it gnome desktop?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: there is a KDE variant, an LXDE variant and an XFCE variant as well as The Gnome one....
[23:09] <playit> thanks for the help I think I got it now..
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: does it show in the output of:  mount      ?
[23:09] <Uncle_Fester> ok. i tried the natty narwhall and didnt like the desktop.  was that kde?
[23:09] <zykotick9> Uncle_Fester: saying "gnome desktop" in ubuntu is confusing, as Unity runs ontop of Gnome, but I wouldn't call it Gnome
[23:09] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, of course
[23:10] <Uncle_Fester> i'm still kinds new to this
[23:10] <gribouille> it is incredible that I can't know what prevents a device from beeing unmounted
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: looks like this: http://imag.malavida.com/mvimgbig/download/kubuntu-5920-1.jpg
[23:10] <Uncle_Fester> i like the way maverick runs(besides this no sound issue)
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: xfce looks like this: http://linuxlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/xubuntu-11-10-3.jpg
[23:12] <Uncle_Fester> i like all my toolbars up top
[23:12] <reprapperMC> I'm finding so many different answers for this with a google search so, how do a make a shell script double click launch?
[23:12] <reprapperMC> how do I*
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: the gnome desktop has the toolbars at the top...
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> reprapperMC: make a .desktop file for it and it will run the script.
[23:13] <Uncle_Fester> did you say i can get the latest 11.10 with gnome?
[23:13] <zykotick9> reprapperMC: not 100% clear on your question, but "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/script" might help
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Uncle_Fester: you can if you want
[23:13] <jost> Uncle_Fester, in XFCE you can put your toolbars where you like them. You can make it look and function very similar to gnome 2
[23:13] <edju> Isn't there a way to install Ubuntu from this hard drive to an external drive?  I can't find it.  Any pointer appreciated.
[23:14] <playit> does it use a lot of resources to use a lot of desktops?
[23:15] <shadowh511> playit: in unity?
[23:15] <playit> well yeah.. im using gnome 3.2 so should be the same i guess
[23:15] <shadowh511> playit: Intel card?
[23:15] <playit> yeah
[23:15] <playit> 965
[23:15] <playit> it didn't work at all under unity
[23:16] <luizblue> noite
[23:16] <shadowh511> playit: hmm, how many do you use on average? I use 9
[23:16] <playit> but works pretty darned good in gnome 3.2
[23:16] <playit> I just started actually organizing my windows lol i used to have 20 things open on 1 desktop haha
[23:16] <playit> I have 6 now
[23:16] <playit> seems snappy still just wondering if theres performance burdons..
[23:16] <Lint> edju, just copy the files, chroot there and install grub
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> playit: only one desktop is loaded at a time, all it uses is drive space
[23:17] <playit> ctrl alt up/down seems to be the newer improved alt tab if you organize your windows by type
[23:17] <Uncle_Fester> i dont know what to do.....
[23:17] <shadowh511> playit: don't get over 32 just to be safe
[23:17] <playit> alright thanks
[23:17] <luizblue> fui
[23:17] <reprapperMC> ActionParsnip, so just save the .sh file as a .desktop file instead?
[23:17] <shadowh511> playit: no problem ^_^ glad to help
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> reprapperMC: it won't work like that
[23:18] <playit> i just realized how pointless my desktop background has been for, well the entire time ive been using a computer
[23:18] <playit> it really effects your psyche
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> reprapperMC: you need to make the .desktop file to run your command, if you put it in /usr/share/applications   it will appear in dash too :)
[23:18] <shadowh511> playit: here's what I use as a wallpaper (KDE) http://i.imgur.com/pBWcm.jpg
[23:19] <playit> I keep one small window per desktop and if theres multiple they are all in the same central spot where I can see a clear iconless background
[23:19] <plusEV> just google vector 3d to get good wallpaper :)
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> playit: here's mine http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Blue%20Abstract.jpg
[23:19] <playit> if i need to tab between them alt '
[23:20] <playit> (key above tab)
[23:20]  * Lint another mac wannabe
[23:20] <playit> yeah I like that image
[23:21] <napalm54> Now after resizing partitions with gParted, do I need to reinstall grub or just update grub?
[23:21] <playit> Not as much as the default purple mac ish background in 11.10
[23:21] <playit> : )
[23:21] <Plizzo> I have a server running Ubuntu Server 11.10 x64 and that is randomly freezing, any help?
[23:21] <reprapperMC> ActionParsnip, sorry,
[23:21]  * mongy prefers plain but sexy velvet noise
[23:22] <playit> Plizzo: I had same issues and for me it was unity causing the problems
[23:22] <playit> mouse would freeze, keyboard would stop working, etc..
[23:22] <reprapperMC> Crap, one arm typing with a baby in the other. ActionParsnip I'm trying to find what actually goes in the .desktop file
[23:22] <Plizzo> playit: I do not have unity, but I do have XBMC
[23:23] <Plizzo> playit: But, even when xorg and xbmc is not running, it still freezes
[23:23] <playit> Plizzo, dont know if this is the right solution but for me the easy fix was 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell'  nvm
[23:23] <playit> don't know then sorry
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> reprapperMC: the files that run apps that run apps are .desktop files. If you look in ~/.config/autostart     you will see simple examples (those are used to autorun your startup items funnily enough). If you make a copy of one and change the lines, you can run whatever you want
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: have you tested your RAM using memtest?
[23:24] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: I ran 23 passes of memtest without errors
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there any official online documentation on how to build some BluRay or DVD repository disks for offline use?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: nice
[23:24] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: Any other things you think it could be? :/
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: could use aptoncd
[23:25] <OerHeks> Plizzo, how do you tell your server is freezing ?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: is the freezing caused by any patterns of system access or running apps
[23:25] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Does APTonCD support bluray now? Thats really what I need.
[23:25] <Plizzo> OerHeks: Keyboard input stops, Front LCD is frozen, VPN disconnects, SSH disconnects, eth0 drops
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: no idea, not used bluray in my life
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: could contact the aptoncd guys to see
[23:26] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: I've tried running without any specific apps, and just my daemons, but still the same issue
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/develop.html#people
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: try disabling some daemons, see if one is causing the issue
[23:26] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: The only daemons I have is openssh, pptpd, avahi and netatalk
[23:27] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: The problem started long before I installed thoose
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: does the system unfreeze?
[23:27] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: No, it's stuck, I have to hold the power button
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: can you ssh in when it is frozen?
[23:27] <rahduke> its hard to explain this question, but it should be easy to help me out.... I am running XBMC and im using a plugin called advanced launcher. It allows you to launch Ubuntu programs from inside of XBMC. So i want to launch firefox from it, however i need to point the program to a launcher for firefox, I cant find an executable file anywhere in my system. Someone please help, id settle for chrome or chromium
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: xbmc isn't supported here
[23:28] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: No, it drops all network connections (eth0, ssh, vpn etc.)
[23:28] <zykotick9> rahduke: from a terminal "whereis firefox"
[23:28] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: its not technically an XBMC question
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: can you access a different TTY when it is frozen, via CTRL+ALT+F3 for example?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: well, yes it is as you to configure xbmc to run the ubuntu app
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: the commands youo need will be in /usr/bin
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: you can find the path of any command using the 'which' command
[23:30] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: Nope, keyboard is frozen as well
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: dang
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: tried resetting BIOS to fail safe?
[23:30] <Plizzo> ActionsParnsip: It's a bitch to debug
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: sounds like it :(
[23:31] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: Nope, I have no, how would I go about doing that, and what would it do?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: enter the BIOS and the option will be there, may make the system slower but may make the system different. May also want to check for BIOS updates too
[23:33] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: I've already updated my EFI to the latest versio
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: yuo covered everyting dude :)
[23:33] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: Yeah, which makes it even harder to debug :(
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Plizzo: does it freeze in liveCD?
[23:34] <dem0n> don't you need to go into the bios to "enable VT" so that you are able to run 64 bit linux distros with vmware player or virtualbox too?
[23:34] <Plizzo> ActionParsnip: I haven't checked that yet
[23:35] <Oins> apt update drops me the following error line: http://pastebin.com/p8rYXFpR. Anyone a clue?
[23:35] <RegimeToppler> Has Ubuntu gotten rid of that Unity interface yet?
[23:36] <zykotick9> RegimeToppler: it's not going to go away.  Give up all hope.
[23:36] <Lint> RegimeToppler, she hadn't and she won't
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Oins: sudo apt-get update      then retry
[23:36] <RegimeToppler> damn...
[23:37] <RegimeToppler> I fucked up my laptop twice by making the mistake of ubgrading.
[23:37] <RegimeToppler> upgrading
[23:37] <cheako911> Hello, on a bootable USB can I rebuild/fold the cow into rofs?
[23:37] <Oins> ActionParsnip: Did this... more then one :(
[23:38] <RegimeToppler> to that piece of shit Unity thing. I guess it's time to say "fuck Ubuntu" and try another Linux that hasn't become a piece of shit due to a fucked up interface.
[23:38] <urfr332g0> cheako911, metaphors are not helpful. :)
[23:38] <CharminTheMoose> RegimeToppler, or just change the default interface you boot into.
[23:38] <mongy> RegimeToppler: apart from being an idiot, you could try another DE
[23:39] <cheako911> urfr332g0: No metaphors used.
[23:39] <bcuraboy> nickserv identify master33
[23:39] <RegimeToppler> I tried to change the interface but I couldn't figure out how.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Oins: try: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage    run that lot
[23:39] <CharminTheMoose> uh oh. Better change your password bcuraboy
[23:39] <DJones> bcuraboy: Tiome to change your password
[23:39] <kraz3d> what command can i type in a bash shell to show me what users are connected to my computer? and not 'users,' i'm talking about even through VNC and everything
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: may want to chage pass
[23:39] <bcuraboy> yeap
[23:40] <RegimeToppler> I had to get that out, though.
[23:40] <craigbass1976> Anyone familiar with testdisk?
[23:41] <craigbass1976> I'm wondering if I'll be able to use photorec to recover files on a drive that I've already reinstalled an OS on
[23:41] <zykotick9> kraz3d: you could try "w" but i doubt it will show vnc connections
[23:41] <Oins> ActionParsnip: Thx. I will try this
[23:42] <OerHeks> testdisk is pretty strait forward. the part that is written over, may not be reversable.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: you can use foremost on it, as long as the data has not been overwritten it may be recoverable. Why not just use your backups....
[23:43] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, the drive I backed up to crapped out.  I found out afterward, when I rebooted the backup box and found the drive to be shot.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: yikes
[23:43] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, not the word I had for it, but yikes works...
[23:45] <bcuraboy> how can i detect duplicades in ubuntu 1.10?talking about pictures
[23:45] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, so the drive I'm hunting on is xp.  It was xp, then I wiped it, and reinstalled xp clean.  I'm assuming the process is the same for a linux drive, yes?
[23:45] <bcuraboy> *ubuntu 11.10
[23:45] <brimlar> Plizzo: if it freezes in LiveCD, it's hardware for sure
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: will be identical, foremost is pretty decent
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: I believe shotwell can do that..
[23:46] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, I'm curious as to how I tell it to look for stuff from before the wipe...
[23:47] <evilgeenius> HI, I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my dell E6510 laptop.  Half way through booting I get a black screen.  I suspect there is a problem with the xconf files, but I don't know.  Is there a way I can get to these files without ssh'ing into the system so I can try to fix this issue? Im not sure what to do.  Thanks
[23:48] <playit> hey ccsm isnt making changes to my compiz config
[23:48] <damo22> craigbass1976, you need a program that will scan the drive sector by sector
[23:48] <damo22> craigbass1976, also, unmount the drive totally and dont write anything more to it
[23:48] <damo22> asa
[23:48] <damo22> asap
[23:49] <zykotick9> bcuraboy: geeqie has an excellent duplicate photo finder (goes far beyond, same filename, and will even find "similar" pictures)
[23:49] <craigbass1976> damo22, It's not mounted.  I shut off the computer as soon as I realized (a few days ago) what happened.  There's just the fresh xp install that happened
[23:49] <urfr332g0> evildaemon, there is a low graphic boot in the recovery or you can insert no9modeset in the kernel with a edit at the grub menu.
[23:49] <urfr332g0> nomodeset
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: it will check the whole drive, the good files will also be 'found', when you delete the files they are not deleted really unless you overwrite them
[23:50] <playit> ^ saved me when installing opensuse too
[23:50] <playit> then ubuntu saved me from opensuse
[23:50] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, foremost doesn't look like it supports many file types
[23:50] <playit> nomodeset in boot options
[23:50] <urfr332g0> playit, if your tweaking ccsm be careful find info on this on the web.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: it may do what you want
[23:51] <playit> i was going to make it open windows in same location
[23:51] <playit> im using gnome 3.2
[23:51] <playit> what can mess up
[23:51] <playit> im using ubuntu 11.10
[23:51] <urfr332g0> playit, gnome 3 is mutter not ccsm
[23:51] <damo22> craigbass1976, if it were me, i would install the drive into an external usb bay and run a special console only livecd that does NOT automount partitions
[23:52] <craigbass1976> damo22, you think perhaps it's been automounted?  I ran into that last week and had to run a fedora livecd...
[23:53] <kingfisher64> does ubuntu 11.10 have problems with printing? I keep getting very inconsistent printing performance. One minute the printer will print 20 copies out fine the next it appears the print queue is messed up.
[23:53] <damo22> craigbass1976, i believe just the act of mounting one of those partitions rw could damage some of your data
[23:53] <craigbass1976> damo22, is there a way to make sure it's not mounted now?  mount doesnt' show /dev/sdb, and that's the borked drive.
[23:54] <urfr332g0> playit, here is the man page. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/mutter.1.html
[23:54] <damo22> craigbass1976, you need to check sudo fdisk -l
[23:54] <damo22> craigbass1976, verify which drive it is and then check mount
[23:55] <craigbass1976> damo22, yes, sdb is that drive.  sda1 is the only one mounted, according to mount
[23:55] <damo22> craigbass1976, in that case, you have a good platform to recover
[23:56] <urfr332g0> kingfisher64, not here to broad a question really?
[23:56] <damo22> craigbass1976, do you have enough space on sda to create an image of sdb onto sda?
[23:56] <evilgeenius> Is there a way to go straight to the terminal and bypass the UI when booting ubuntu?
[23:57] <zykotick9> !text | evilgeenius
[23:57] <playit> haha .. well the good news is i probably only broke unity as ccsm has no effect on Gnome 3.2 x D
[23:58] <playit> supposedly im using mutter
[23:58] <evilgeenius> zykotick9: I have to use a tool called Rescatux in order to boot up ubuntu.  But using this method I can't see the boot menu.
[23:58] <craigbass1976> damo22, sdc has it I think. I'm manning du...
[23:58] <damo22> craigbass1976, ideally you should dump the whole sdb disk to a file somewhere....
[23:59] <playit> gnome-tweak-tool or something like that
[23:59] <zykotick9> evilgeenius: disable your DM in /etc/init as an alternative
[23:59] <playit> that sound accurate?
[23:59] <kingfisher64> urfr332g0 - ok, does ubuntu have print issue queue problems with specific printers?
[23:59] <aBound> playit, Gnome-Shell uses mutter as it's window manager. :P
[23:59] <kingfisher64> as a known issue?
[23:59] <|DM|> Hola, habla espanol?
[23:59] <damo22> craigbass1976, the filesizes are irrelevant on the sdb filesystem
[23:59] <craigbass1976> foremost -i /dev/sdb1 is going to dump it into ./output I think
[23:59] <evilgeenius> zykotick9: I need to get to a terminal to do any changes
[23:59] <zykotick9> !es |DM|
[23:59] <craigbass1976> damo22, ^^  ?
[23:59] <aBound> Unity uses Compiz as it's window manager and draws the unity shell a long with it.
[23:59] <ThOr101> I made the mistake of trying to revert back to gnome, in the process I think I borked my session manager (system boots to purple, then ubuntu with 5 dots).  Can anyone point me in the direction of where to go to debug the session startup? I think it is still pointed at GDM.
[23:59] <Horroreyes> Hi, I installed gnomeshell on my Laptop and tried to install a program with the softwarecenter, but now it askes me for the password of the second user of the Laptop, but i'm logged in with my Account