=== log is now known as eating === eating is now known as log [01:02] If someone has a moment to confirm? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/934609 [01:02] Launchpad bug 934609 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Clicking on an album in the music lens causes no reaction." [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:52] jo-erlend: your bug is confirmed. [01:56] jokerdino, thanks. === rocky_ is now known as rocky [03:33] have the mirrors been fixed yet? :p [03:33] come on ya slackers ;) [03:33] pay your internet bill j/k [04:21] gah.. dodge active windows has been removed from unity [04:21] im deeply pissed off about that.. way to fail [04:23] time to switch to gnome-shell [04:23] sick of the bugs.. and the retard decisions [04:23] way to ruin something that could've been good [04:23] snadge, hmm it is on my oneric setup in compiz [04:23] its just been removed in precise [04:24] for flawed, dubious reasoning.. because some people are retards.. basically [04:24] that means people who arn't retards, now have to suck eggs [04:24] and the option has been completely removed.. even from ccsm [04:24] really not happy about that [04:25] you can get it from myunity [04:25] though not sure if it would work [04:25] never hide... sucks... autohide.. sucks.. dodge active was an excellent option.. i honestly dont understand how people could've found that confusing.. and deeply annoyed that the option has been removed from ccsm, which warns the user its for advanced purposes only [04:27] i guess i can live with pressing the super key to access dash.. and i can probably get used to auto-hide.. im just hating it at the moment [04:27] if theres space for it.. i'd like it to just be there [04:28] on netbooks.. dodge active is arguably mandatory [04:28] its annoying to reveal dash with a trackpad [04:28] pressing super is something i'll just have to get used to :/ [04:28] did you try myunity? [04:35] never heard of it [04:35] im starting to get over it.. just felt like venting [04:35] good boy [04:36] still i miss dodge active windows.. i know that the real reason it was removed [04:36] is because they couldn't be bothered fixing it [04:36] and are pandering to retards [04:36] all the intelligent people ditched unity ages ago ;) [04:39] https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg07665.html [04:47] im going to drink beer now [06:19] jokerdino: hi [06:21] daily of 12.04 wont boot on my machine. tells me i need a kernel appropriate to my cpu (or some such thing) [06:22] what model cpu [06:24] using i386 iso and pentium m cpu [06:24] its a bit old and slow but it should work given than 11.10 i386 works [06:24] it could be that the newest kernel doesn't support cpus that old anymore [06:26] really. because i use 3.2.6-1 on arch without problems [06:26] hmm [06:26] and i386 is i386, regardless of model. [06:26] you sure you didn't grab the amd64 version [06:27] sure. i checked the md5sum for it and it matched the list on the cdimage site [06:28] i'm not sure then [06:31] just looked it up and they have removed non pae support from the kernel, so anyone with a pentium2 or older cant run it. that is not me though. i have a 2.2ghz pentium m [06:34] hmm [06:35] seems like they stuffed that one up then. i guess i will try something else [09:01] Hi, I still need to do sudo modprobe -r wl ssb b43; sudo modprobe wl; on every boot to get my wifi going. ssb and b43 are blacklisted and wl is the only one that should be loaded. Should I report it as a bug? [09:02] scarleo: why not [09:02] zzecool: ok, what package should I report it against? [09:03] hmmm i can say network manager [09:03] ok [09:04] And dont forget to use "ubuntu-bug" to collect the log files [09:04] :) [09:04] scarleo: [09:05] zzecool: of course :) [09:05] :) [09:10] Anyone noticed that the terminal sometimes disappears from Alt+Tab, yet is still clickable in the panel in Unity 3D? [09:21] bug 934614 [09:21] Launchpad bug 934614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "reinstall of precise breaks grub with invalid arch independent ELF magic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934614 [09:22] any suggestions on how to unbrick my laptop? grub-reinstall from a chroot doesn't fix it [09:32] !info grub2 [09:32] grub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.99-14ubuntu2 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-amd64 any-powerpc any-ppc64 any-sparc any-mipsel i386 kopensolaris-i386 amd64 powerpc ppc64 sparc mipsel kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64) [09:39] weren't we supposed to have an entry in system settings to set privacy rules for Zeitgeist? [09:39] it is not installed yet [09:39] err, not privacy, but.. You know. [09:39] yeah, i know [09:39] jokerdino, it is planned then? [09:39] it is not in the default repos yet. [09:39] but it is going to be, soon. [09:39] right. Thanks. [09:40] I saw your answer on askubuntu :) [09:40] you can install it, if you are impatient like me :) [09:40] hah, thought so :) [09:40] sudo apt-get install activity-log-manager-control-center [09:43] \o [09:43] o/ [09:43] Im on The Oneric [09:44] you don't deserve to be here then ;) [09:44] And new ubuntu release==tad bit slower [09:44] *Precise [09:44] LOL I got to get used to the name [09:46] :S Even XFCE is slow [09:46] did you dist-upgrade yet? [09:46] Yep [09:47] well, for me, it is faster in 12.04 [09:50] hey folks... I think I read how unity-greeter should now be handling the lockscreen. Is this correct? It does not seem to be the case for me. [09:50] amithkk, that's strange. On every single computer I've tested Precise on, it's been radically faster. [09:50] psalden, not yet. [09:50] that explains :) thanks [09:50] psalden: it is now disabled. [09:50] I seem to recall something about issues with AMD cards or something. [09:50] Remember, Im on a P4 system With Nvidia 6200 AGP graphics [09:51] amithkk, ok. Have you tested Lubuntu? It's really cool and lightning fast. [09:51] Im on Xubuntu [09:51] But I may make the move [09:51] Gah [09:51] psalden: Bug 878836 [09:51] Launchpad bug 878836 in Light Display Manager "Unity Greeter - Use Unity Greeter to fulfil lock screen as well as login functions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878836 [09:52] amithkk, I don't think the processor or graphics will be such an issue with Xfce. But memory might. How much do you have? [09:52] Gnome>Unity>Gnome Shell>Unity 2D>XFCE>LXDE..? [09:52] thanks jokerdino, I'll read through it [09:52] *Gnome>Unity>Gnome Shell>Unity 2D>XFCE>LXDE? [09:53] amithkk, I don't really understand that. Unity is Gnome. Are you talking about resource consumption? [09:53] Yes [09:54] Is gnome = gnome-fallback? [09:54] Nope 10.04 gnome [09:54] 10.04 was very fast [09:54] which consumes more of Unity and Gnome Shell, I don't know. I would expect Gnome Panel to consume a little less than both. Unity and Unity 2D probably uses about the same amounts, but Unity is heavier on the graphics card. Xfce is heavier than Lxde. [09:54] amithkk, it's the same thing. [09:55] Yeah, For some reason, Its going slow [09:55] Wait a second [09:55] amithkk, it's actually called Gnome Panel. You can install it by running sudo apt-get install gnome-panel. It will pull in everything you need and give you an option at login. [09:55] i remember someone having issue with this bug, Bug 878836 [09:55] I'll try the 96 driver [09:55] Launchpad bug 878836 in Light Display Manager "Unity Greeter - Use Unity Greeter to fulfil lock screen as well as login functions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878836 [09:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/927441 [09:55] Launchpad bug 927441 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Precise) "Far left character in panel (and launcher popups) distorted" [High,Confirmed] [09:55] sorry wrong one. [09:56] jokerdino, thanks. I think I've experienced that issue. [09:56] so it was you. i forgot who it was. [09:58] Ok, How does ubottu do the Bug:x123 thing [09:58] twobottu: +info [09:58] amithkk: Error: "+info" is not a valid command. [09:59] bug 1 [09:59] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [09:59] I'meant where I could get the plugin [09:59] It's supybot [09:59] Im having a trimmed down version for #2buntu [10:00] http://fluffy.jussi01.com/factoids.cgi [10:17] what was that extension that shows download bar in firefox? [11:17] Has anyone else been unable to log in to Ubuntu 12.04 alpha 2 after an update yesterday? [11:19] o/ [11:20] hey mainerror [11:21] Oh hey there. :) [11:22] how is 12.04? [12:59] I'm quite pleased with it. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:42] any way to "zoom desktop" in Alpha2? [13:48] scar3crow: sure, super+mousewheel [13:49] someone with two monitors want to confirm bug 935131 [13:49] Launchpad bug 935131 in libnotify (Ubuntu) "if the rightmost screen is not as high as the aggregate rectangle notifications are off screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935131 [13:50] ty AlanBell [13:50] AlanBell, isn't it a bit annoying that super+moisewheel will bring up the cheat sheet in the middle of everything? [13:50] AlanBell, *mousewheel [13:51] phibxr: yes, it is annoying, there is a bug about that somewhere [13:51] you can turn off the cheatsheet if you want [13:52] hmm, maybe not a full separate bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/855532/comments/23 [13:52] Launchpad bug 855532 in unity-2d "Keyboard shortcut - Add keyboard shortcut hint overlay that is displayed when a user presses and holds the Super key" [High,In progress] [13:53] bug 932718 [13:53] Launchpad bug 932718 in unity (Ubuntu) "Keyboard overlay gets in the way when zooming" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932718 [13:54] AlanBell: I was seeking to "zoom" my desktop wallpaper... looks good in lightdm, then re-scales to "fit" upon login. there used to be options in "Appearance" to change how your desktop wallpaper was scaled, now there isn't :-/ [13:56] scar3crow: oh right, dunno about that [13:56] use one the right size :) [13:56] AlanBell: what is the cheatsheet? [13:56] :( ok, thnx [13:56] AlanBell: do you mean the mouse pointer? [13:56] zzecool: long hold of super key [13:56] AlanBell: ahh yeah [13:56] the shortcut overlay [13:56] i see [13:57] if you are doing super+mousewheel it gets in the way and looks rubbish as the background doesn't update as you zoom [13:57] in super + mousewheel it should remove the mouse pointer while on zoom [13:57] why? [13:58] it scales the pointer, works great for me [14:02] AlanBell: scaled image... looks good ;) [14:02] ty [14:26] certain apps in unity don't appear in alt+tab and have hollow arrows on the left side of the launcher (as opposed to full arrows like the other apps). what does that mean? [14:27] xocolatl, they're on a different workspace [14:28] Daekdroom, that would make sense, except they're not [14:28] Alt+tab new default is to show apps only on the active workspace. [14:28] then it's a bug [14:28] that's kind of what I'm saying :) [14:28] emacs is a good example if you want to see what I mean [14:29] or anything in the sgt-puzzles package [14:29] ooh, something just happened and I got access to them [14:29] maybe switching around workspaces helped [14:29] * xocolatl tests [14:30] yes, changing workspaces and coming back fixes it [14:31] I use the keyboard as much as possible because the trackpad is 98% broken in precise. completely unusable [14:45] KBentley57: Did you get you config file ok? [16:40] nvidia would not load for some reason same was with 290 === |Slasher| is now known as Slasher` === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [17:40] does the compiz grid plugin work correctly in precise? === trism_ is now known as trism === urfr332go is now known as urfr332gO [17:59] /go ran [17:59] oops [18:15] Does anyone using the scale plugin ? Super + w ? [18:20] i don't think anyone is alive in here [18:20] * mainerror is alive [18:20] sure there are people alive in here, just probably nobody that uses those plugins [18:23] alive is a relative concept [18:26] relative is a relative concept also :) [18:26] yofel: everyone uses the grid plugin, they just don't realize what it's called [18:28] jokerdino: I use KDE, so I most certainly don't [18:28] he's gone -.- [18:34] so if I want official Flash on precise (for newish video streaming), what's the best approach? [18:34] install adobe-flashplugin [18:34] it's in the partner repo [18:35] that repo might not be set up for precise yet, so you can go out to launchpad and grab the oneiric version and install that manually [18:36] they fixed the flashplugin-installer package to install the 64 bit version now, so that works as well [18:36] rmadison shows it as available: adobe-flashplugin | 11.1.102.62-0precise1 | precise-partner/partner | source, amd64, i386 [18:37] the flashplugin-installer package is no longer necessary [18:37] well, I couldn't find a partner repository, and flashplugin-installer was found immediately by apt-get [18:37] so, well, nyah. [18:38] the adobe-flashplugin package gets you an arch-specific plugin that is linked to all browsers [18:38] and doesn't pull in nspluginwrapper [18:39] I didn't see nspluginwrapper on the install list [18:39] bjsnider: flashplugin-installer doesn't anymore either [18:39] and I'm deeply loyal to Firefox, so I don't care about other browsers [18:42] the changelog says -installer downloads out of the partner archive [18:43] not directly from adobe, so you get what you'd get anyway if you'd just enable the partner repo [18:43] well would you look at that, Amazon instant video works in Linux Firefox [18:43] it's just there for people who don't know how to enable partner [18:44] partner is multiverse right? [18:44] no, partner is packages provided by canonical [18:44] and I think disabled by default [18:44] pretty much any flash will work to some extent on linux at this point [18:44] !partner [18:44] yofel: Error: "partner" is not a valid command. [18:44] Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [18:45] the hell's twobottu o.O [18:45] there are differences in terms of gpu decoding [18:45] Is that an unauthorized bot? [18:47] lol, attacked by evil bots [18:48] Daekdroom: yeah, it was [18:48] flash fullscreen performance is dismal :( [18:51] ugh. Update manager pops up every couple of minutes, which is obnoxious because it doesn't actually work [18:56] roothorick: gsettings set com.ubuntu.update-notifier auto-launch false; === Guest77252 is now known as Aranel [20:00] Does anyone use a multitouch capable device on 12.04? [20:09] If I have autologin enabled for the local user, and I enable XDMCP, then all remote clients automatically log in as that user. Isn't that a security issue? It only happens with lightdm, it didn't happen previously with gdm.. [20:16] Hmm it might be a misconfiguration... /me tests... [20:17] hi all, I've been trying to move my network configuration from a collection of independent configurations to network manager, so far I've moved my vpn from openvpn to a nm config for ovpn, but am still having difficulty configuring dnsmasq properly [20:17] dnsmasq seems to stop resolving when my vpn is connected. any ideas? [20:25] Nah, it's a bug :) [20:25] Setting another autologin-user under the [XDMCPServer] section didn't help === iceroot is now known as derbysieger [20:50] Hi, does anyone know which package provides the new HUD features? [20:50] I had it installed from the testing PPA, but now that is gone, I can't see what packages it is specific to [20:51] pcjc2: what are those features? [20:51] (Its got to go.. it is broken on my box) [20:52] (Because I uninstalled the various global-menu packages as I find them very unhelpful) [20:53] I think the "HUD" depends on the global app-menu stuff. I'm guessing it is a part of unity, as there is no "*hud*" package in dpkg [20:55] ok, I disabled its shortcut in ccsm, so its disabled for now. [20:56] Hmm, the ppa page for the hud gives me a "Forbidden".... googling shows it is included in the "indicator-appmenu" package === Z_God_Z is now known as Z_God === ironhalik_ is now known as ironhalik [21:45] is there somwhere I can download Precise? [21:45] I'd like to give it a try:) [21:46] Sure. [21:46] having some issues with others [21:46] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/alpha2 [21:46] AWESOME!!! [21:46] Thanks! [21:46] And here are the daily builds. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [21:47] Sweet! [21:47] Thanks! [21:47] freedom ;) [21:51] my stupid self didn't bring amouse, I have this weird touchpad thing :( [21:51] Move touchpad, hold finger there, continues to move in that direction. [21:55] h00k: there's a bug about that, happens on my eeePC as well [21:56] yofel: that's what I'm on, yeah. Do you know the number? [21:56] found it, bug 924747 [21:56] Launchpad bug 924747 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) ""Pointer keeps on moving while the finger rests on touchpad"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924747 [21:57] !helperstack | yofel [21:57] !helpersnack | yofel [21:57] yofel: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [21:57] weee [21:57] * yofel didn't know about that one yet :D [21:58] * EvilResistance hands yofel a cookie [21:58] * yofel hugs EvilResistance and h00k [21:58] * EvilResistance glares evilly at yofel [21:58] get off of me... [21:59] lol [22:06] hello i am testing the daily live cd of precise and it it's somehow buggy but that might be due to alpha flag and it will be stable soon when rc become avail .. but there is many glitchish like the mouse left button just dont resoponse randomly and i have to hit any keyboard short cut like ctrl+alt+t to mkae it work again and unity crashed couple of times for me and the default value for autohide is abit low and i have to wait alot so the launcher apppear [22:06] and the worst of them in these screenshots http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1876/26791621.jpg http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1040/16595895.jpg notice the extra vertical pixel on the unity panel title >>> are those known issue .. I use ubuntu precise daily and fusijtsu siemens laptop amilo pi 1505 dual core cpu 1.8 3gb of ram and i945 vga .. oneiric plays well but i just don't know are those known bugs .. and if so how to report them [22:11] dr3mro: about your font problem, there is some discussion from yesterday at bug 927441 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1919448 [22:11] Launchpad bug 927441 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Precise) "Far left character in panel (and launcher popups) distorted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927441 [22:16] trism, thank you [22:18] trism, I think all other bugs are compiz bugs .. and will resolve some how . I can't wait precise release [22:18] Guys anyone using the scale plugin ? Its the Super+W [22:19] dr3mro: do you use it ? [22:19] What about it? [22:19] there is a bug instead of pick the windows form all workspaces it picks only fomr current [22:19] form [22:19] from* [22:19] grr [22:20] Daekdroom: here you are [22:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776 [22:20] Launchpad bug 933776 in compiz (Ubuntu) ""Super + W" window picker only shows local windows, not all." [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:21] Please check and confirm :) [22:21] Have you ever considered that it might not be a bug? [22:21] Daekdroom: yes [22:21] and it is [22:21] read my comment on the bug [22:21] :) [22:21] if you want to pick only form current its another feature [22:22] Compiz ----> scale plugin ----> binding ---> [22:22] Initiate window picker if only for the current [22:23] Initiate window picker for all windows is what super + w and its a bug [22:23] Initiate window picker for all windows is what super + w is and its a bug [22:24] Press and hold Super and check what it says. [22:24] I don't trust the current translation. [22:24] and my system is not in English. [22:24] ermm [22:24] it says form current workspace... [22:24] But in CCSM it's set for all windows, right? [22:24] exactly [22:24] So the bug is that the ccsm configuration is misfunctioning. [22:24] nice catch [22:25] not exactly [22:25] prolly its their mistake [22:25] Well.. What is the default? [22:25] because this was the setup for ccsm was the same in oneiric [22:26] but the result was not its was picking from every workspace [22:26] as it should [22:26] Ah. [22:26] Found it. [22:26] ? [22:26] It says for all windows indeed. [22:26] :) [22:26] They must have changed the behaviour of the plugin and didn't update the text in CCSM [22:27] i dont know [22:27] i will try initiate window picker [22:27] now [22:27] let me check [22:28] nope [22:28] same behavior [22:28] they f*** the plugin [22:29] Daekdroom: press affect me button please =) [22:30] I did. [22:30] Thank you :) === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [23:33] Im filind adventurous today [23:34] can I use apt, from terminal, to upgrade from 11.10 to precise? [23:34] instead of the update-manager -d method? [23:35] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/alpha2 [23:37] so I guess theres only the GUI way? [23:38] ironhalik, no... you can change your sources.list file ;) And then update && dist-upgrade [23:38] that sounds exciting ;> [23:39] :P you can break your system [23:39] I guess just upgrading it to a2 can break it ;> [23:39] but I heard a2 is of decent quality [23:41] a2 is pretty stable...been using precise for about 4 weeks now [23:41] ironhalik: really stable [23:43] yea :) but still there is risk. [23:43] well, knowing my luck, it wont work for me :) [23:43] ironhalik: haha [23:44] ironhalik: are you installing it on your test machine or production [23:44] ? [23:44] well, it depends :) [23:44] oh... you can break your system with stable relase too ... :). [23:45] my test machine turned into a crafted by hand, every package manually tuned arch linux [23:45] which Im truly terrified to break :) [23:45] so my main desktop got downgraded to test machine ;> [23:46] I think Ill clone my whole boot drive and then try precise [23:46] ironhalik: if it is any comfort, i installed precise on my production laptop [23:46] i too [23:47] x86 or x64? [23:47] im running precise on my everyday laptop [23:47] head 64bit is going to be the default one [23:47] x64 [23:47] Same here. [23:47] hmm, nice [23:47] i can say that precise feels much more stable than oneoric [23:47] and unity is HELL ALOT faster [23:47] oneiric* [23:48] I already use unity 5.0 on my oneiric [23:48] we have 5.4 here [23:48] ;p [23:48] its indeed quite a bit snappier [23:48] It isn't more stable for me but Unity is definitely a lot faster. [23:48] hmm, unity being laggy was the reason I didnt go with ubuntu on my lappy [23:49] hmm, any issues with Xorg taking a lot of CPU? [23:49] now its fooking fast [23:49] not here [23:49] in resting at 0.6% [23:49] now [23:49] I had terrible issues with that on 11.10, and red it has been fixed in 12.04 [23:49] Flash is what killing my cpu [23:49] :D [23:50] its killing everybodys CPU ;> [23:50] yeah [23:50] i know its was a joke ;p [23:50] it8 [23:50] it* [23:50] Xorg spends a lot of CPU for me. [23:50] Daekdroom: rly? [23:50] But I'm using xorg-edgers, so it might not be precise's fault [23:50] i was using xorg edgers like 1 hour before with no problems [23:51] but now i downgraded on main archive [23:51] Daekdroom: but does it hit higher cpu load, or just a lot of interrupts? [23:51] because nvidia 295 landed here [23:51] for me, after an hour of leaks, it would use one whole core constantly [23:51] It does not get to use a whole core. [23:51] ironhalik: thats nasty [23:51] Xorg's CPU usage is OK for me, only the crashes are not as fun. :) [23:52] But it always has the most CPU usage, unless I'm using flash, enconding audio or something like that. [23:52] i keep getting the message, system crashed: need to submit a bug report? even though everything is fine [23:52] Teamviewer got borged for me ;/ [23:52] zzecool: yeah, and I tried four different drivers from nvidia - only nouveau work, but they cut the 3d performance by half, and hd decoding [23:52] ironhalik: im using 295 now and it is rocking [23:53] 290 was rocking too [23:53] krnekhelesh: Obviously something is not fine. :) [23:53] krnekhelesh: im getting the same when i login [23:53] Just report it. [23:53] mainerror: yeah but i say cancel and then i dont notice anything unusual [23:53] and sometimes random [23:53] That is most likely a dupe. [23:53]