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| === vivek is now known as pvivek | ||
| pvivek | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp. In the section "Teaching Bazaar about you" this command is given | 05:39 |
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| pvivek | "bzr launchpad-login fchu". But before in no other section he speaks about Launchpad . And its the last section. Should i skip to last section first and then come back to this? | 05:39 |
| pvivek | I would be very glad if someone can help me out. I really want to contribute to opensource | 05:39 |
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| veger | I found two reports with a package update request (for the same package). The one with the highest version number request is 'In Progress'. Should I close the other (older) report as Duplicate? | 12:32 |
| Ampelbein | veger: Yes, the one thats more active should be left open. | 12:32 |
| veger | ok (luckily that is also the newer l | 12:33 |
| veger | *one) | 12:33 |
| hjd | Anyone know if bug 926605 would be considered a duplicate of bug 824708 or not? While they are triggered in different ways, I assume they are both calling the underlying code resulting in the error. | 12:54 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 926605 in aptitude "aptitude: failed to download the changlog of apt: Download queue destroyed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926605 | 12:54 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 824708 in aptitude "Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824708 | 12:54 |
| hjd | s/the underlying/the same underlying/ | 12:55 |
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| grmls | hi :) | 13:45 |
| mainerror | Hello, | 14:45 |
| grmls | hi mainerror | 14:45 |
| mainerror | If I have a bug which is similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/utouch/+bug/777074 | 14:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 777074 in unity "Apple Magic Trackpad: pointer freezes on 3 or 4 finger touch using a "Cambridge Silicon Radio" bluetooth dongle." [Undecided,Invalid] | 14:45 |
| mainerror | but with a different USB Dongle, should I add that information in that bug report? | 14:45 |
| mainerror | Or should I create a new bug report for that? Doesn't sound right though. | 14:48 |
| grmls | hmm | 14:54 |
| grmls | i think add your information in that bug | 14:57 |
| yofel | mainerror: considering the bug was closed rather file a new one and mention the old bug in the new one | 15:16 |
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| mainerror | Alright, I'll do that then. That was what bothered me, I thought that adding a comment to a closed bug will reopen it. | 16:15 |
| mainerror | https://bugs.launchpad.net/utouch/+bug/935569 | 17:16 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 935569 in utouch "Apple Magic Trackpad: pointer freezes on 3 or 4 finger touch using a "Delock Bluetooth V2.1 + EDR" bluetooth dongle." [Undecided,New] | 17:16 |
| mainerror | Filed a new bug for it and added all relevant information. | 17:17 |
| mainerror | It can be closed now. | 17:17 |
| mainerror | I've also marked it as a duplicate of 777074 | 17:18 |
| yofel | mainerror: marking it as a duplicate counts as closing it, just mention the other bug | 17:19 |
| mainerror | I've mentioned it but I'm not sure if it should stay open since it is actually not even a valid bug. :) | 17:20 |
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| === Guest46093 is now known as pvivek | ||
| pvivek | i have setup the environment to start off. I am a beginner. I want to start contributing to open source by fixing a few bugs. Would be very glad if someone can guide me as to which bug to take up and start working on | 18:41 |
| Ampelbein | pvivek: Any open bug is good, as long as the status is not "In Progress". | 18:50 |
| pvivek | Ampelbein : Thank you, i am searching for bugs from here http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ . Any other good place to find small bugs to get started with? | 18:51 |
| jtaylor | pvivek: a couple fo these are probably easy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+precise&field.tags_combinator=ALL | 18:55 |
| veger_ | pvivek: check this page out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut | 18:59 |
| pvivek | jtaylor , veger_ : Thanks a lot. Will start finding now | 19:01 |
| === veger_ is now known as veger | ||
| veger | what to do with a report asking to update a package of a proprietary application? Close as invalid and tell that it is impossible for us to update? | 19:42 |
| Ampelbein | veger: What application and what bug in particular? | 19:46 |
| veger | bug #572853 | 19:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 572853 in teamspeak-client "Teamspeak 3 Needs Updated Version in Repo" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572853 | 19:46 |
| veger | checked out their website and downloaded newest version, but it without any source... Version 2 was open source I think | 19:46 |
| Ampelbein | I don't know the license of teamspeak, but if we (as Ubuntu) have the possibility to distribute the compiled binaries, it should be left open - quite like the closed source nvidia drivers. | 19:49 |
| veger | they do not provide a (debian) package, but some self-extracting .run script. Suppose the teamspeak developers should provide the package themselves? | 19:52 |
| Ampelbein | And in the license terms I read "You may not distribute TeamSpeak software otherwise over the Internet, unless you obtain prior written consent from TeamSpeak Systems GmbH or Triton CI & Associates, Inc. to do so." so I'd say: not possible. | 19:52 |
| veger | yeah... :) | 19:52 |
| Ampelbein | It's also possible to package a wrapper-script that downloads that *.run file and executes it, like it's done with the adobe Flashplayer. So I'd leave the report open. | 19:53 |
| veger | that would be possible yes. Ok I'll leave it as it is | 19:53 |
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| krnekhelesh | hello everyone | 21:57 |
| krnekhelesh | please can anyone mark this bug as a wishlist | 21:57 |
| krnekhelesh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/904749 | 21:57 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 904749 in unity "Add startup application should let you choose one from the launcher!" [Undecided,New] | 21:57 |
| krnekhelesh | thank u | 21:57 |
| Ampelbein | krnekhelesh: done | 21:58 |
| krnekhelesh | please mark this bug as wishlist https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/925392 | 22:14 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 925392 in unity "No keyboard shortcut for Session Menu" [Undecided,New] | 22:14 |
| krnekhelesh | may be even add tag "needs ayatana design" | 22:15 |
| krnekhelesh | I am not sure | 22:15 |
| krnekhelesh | anybody? | 22:26 |
| krnekhelesh | pls mark this bug as wishlist | 22:27 |
| krnekhelesh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/925392 | 22:27 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 925392 in unity "No keyboard shortcut for Session Menu" [Undecided,New] | 22:27 |
| zzecool | krnekhelesh: what is the "session menu" i dont get what you are describing on the bug report | 22:51 |
| krnekhelesh | zzecool: i did not report the bug | 22:52 |
| krnekhelesh | however he is referrring to the indicator menu which shows system settings, shutdown etc | 22:52 |
| zzecool | super + s = Expo plugin = reveal miniature of the workspaces | 22:52 |
| zzecool | super + s never did this | 22:52 |
| zzecool | at least on unity | 22:52 |
| krnekhelesh | i thought that as well...i suppose he is wishing for a keyboard shortcut for the indicator menu | 22:53 |
| krnekhelesh | should I mark the bug incomplete asking for more info? | 22:54 |
| zzecool | i dont rly now | 22:54 |
| krnekhelesh | oh by the way could you have a look at this | 22:54 |
| zzecool | if you are on the desktop without any application active | 22:54 |
| krnekhelesh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/934549 | 22:54 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 934549 in unity "The workspaces button should show the names of the workspaces, when clicked with the right mouse button" [Undecided,New] | 22:54 |
| zzecool | f10 reveal the indicator menu | 22:55 |
| krnekhelesh | zzecool, when in the desktop without any application active, pressing f10 shows me the file, edit etc menu of ubuntu desktop | 22:56 |
| krnekhelesh | not the indicator menus | 22:56 |
| zzecool | krnekhelesh: Are you search for the most "i cant understand what they say" bugs? | 22:56 |
| zzecool | press your right key | 22:56 |
| zzecool | multiple times | 22:56 |
| krnekhelesh | ofcourse if you press f10 and then right key it shows the indicator menu | 22:57 |
| zzecool | yeap | 22:57 |
| krnekhelesh | and also the other bug i shared regarding the workspaces, i think it is redundant | 22:57 |
| krnekhelesh | since you can just press the workspace icon and go to whichever workspace you want | 22:58 |
| krnekhelesh | ? | 22:58 |
| zzecool | The bug should be f10 should start form the right side of screen and instead of file to open the cog menu first | 22:58 |
| krnekhelesh | i guess yes | 22:58 |
| zzecool | Fix it :) | 22:58 |
| krnekhelesh | the 1st bug or the 2nd one? | 22:59 |
| krnekhelesh | :) | 22:59 |
| zzecool | YOu can ask him first or just fix the description | 22:59 |
| zzecool | the 1st | 22:59 |
| krnekhelesh | ok i can do that | 22:59 |
| zzecool | :D | 22:59 |
| krnekhelesh | and regarding the workspaces, probably you could just set is as wont fix | 22:59 |
| krnekhelesh | since it is redundant | 22:59 |
| krnekhelesh | i'll fix the other bug regarding the f10 shortcut | 23:00 |
| zzecool | He is asking about the workspace name ? there is no such a thing | 23:00 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah | 23:00 |
| zzecool | Mark it as incomplete and ask him what does he mean :) | 23:00 |
| krnekhelesh | ok | 23:01 |
| zzecool | So you like bug hunting and triaging :P | 23:01 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah | 23:01 |
| zzecool | gj | 23:01 |
| zzecool | :0 | 23:01 |
| krnekhelesh | I joined the ubuntu bug squad last month | 23:01 |
| krnekhelesh | and like to help | 23:01 |
| zzecool | Great you did | 23:01 |
| krnekhelesh | but thnx for ur help | 23:01 |
| zzecool | np | 23:01 |
| zzecool | im just a random bug hunter too | 23:01 |
| zzecool | :) | 23:01 |
| krnekhelesh | nice | 23:02 |
| krnekhelesh | I focus mostly on unity since i use it a lot | 23:02 |
| zzecool | if you can help me with press affect me too in some of my fav bugs | 23:02 |
| zzecool | :D | 23:02 |
| krnekhelesh | sure | 23:02 |
| krnekhelesh | links? | 23:02 |
| zzecool | ok | 23:02 |
| zzecool | wait | 23:02 |
| zzecool | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776 | 23:03 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 933776 in compiz ""Super + W" window picker only shows local windows, not all." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:03 |
| zzecool | first is this | 23:03 |
| krnekhelesh | done | 23:04 |
| zzecool | thank you | 23:05 |
| zzecool | the other one is a different situation | 23:05 |
| zzecool | its about dodge to active window removal | 23:05 |
| zzecool | if you know what im talking about | 23:05 |
| krnekhelesh | dodge to active window removal? | 23:06 |
| zzecool | yeap | 23:06 |
| zzecool | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/930148 | 23:06 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 930148 in unity "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:06 |
| zzecool | read before you accept this one | 23:06 |
| zzecool | read the comments and deside | 23:06 |
| zzecool | The unity launcher used to have 4 different behaviors now only have 2 | 23:07 |
| zzecool | they removed "dodge to window" and " dodge to active window" | 23:07 |
| krnekhelesh | oh yeah I think i read this today morning...its brilliant | 23:08 |
| zzecool | and there are many ppl including me that we what this feature back | 23:08 |
| krnekhelesh | I really miss dodge behaviour | 23:08 |
| zzecool | what is brilliant ?? >.< | 23:08 |
| zzecool | ohh | 23:08 |
| zzecool | i was scared for a moments | 23:08 |
| zzecool | :D | 23:08 |
| zzecool | moment* | 23:08 |
| krnekhelesh | i really support this bug | 23:08 |
| krnekhelesh | that's what i meant | 23:08 |
| zzecool | Nice | 23:08 |
| zzecool | i like you more nowe | 23:08 |
| zzecool | now | 23:08 |
| zzecool | :D:D | 23:09 |
| krnekhelesh | haha | 23:09 |
| zzecool | You can also take place in the conversation below to the comments :) | 23:09 |
| krnekhelesh | I cant believe they removed the code for dodge since it confused some users | 23:09 |
| zzecool | .... | 23:09 |
| krnekhelesh | I think dodge made unity more space efficient | 23:09 |
| zzecool | this is 99% an excuse | 23:09 |
| zzecool | exactly | 23:09 |
| zzecool | There is something else fishy that they dont say | 23:10 |
| zzecool | this cant be a serious reason | 23:10 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah, everybody like david calle and many other developers also miss this feature | 23:10 |
| zzecool | And the best thing is why keep autohide instead of intelihide? | 23:11 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah | 23:11 |
| zzecool | Read my comments | 23:11 |
| krnekhelesh | ok | 23:11 |
| zzecool | and put yours too if you want | 23:11 |
| zzecool | we need support on this bug | 23:11 |
| krnekhelesh | i will | 23:11 |
| zzecool | because i see this as a bug | 23:11 |
| zzecool | :) | 23:11 |
| krnekhelesh | will need some time to read through all the comments | 23:12 |
| zzecool | ok | 23:12 |
| zzecool | take your time :) | 23:12 |
| zzecool | im going to make soem coffee | 23:12 |
| zzecool | some | 23:12 |
| krnekhelesh | go ahead | 23:12 |
| zzecool | If you have any connection with devs like david who like the dodge | 23:13 |
| zzecool | point the to this bug report | 23:13 |
| zzecool | :) | 23:13 |
| zzecool | point them* | 23:13 |
| krnekhelesh | ok | 23:13 |
| krnekhelesh | i see him sometimes in google+ , will let him know | 23:13 |
| zzecool | :D | 23:13 |
| zzecool | krnekhelesh: are you using precise or oneiric? | 23:23 |
| krnekhelesh | precise | 23:23 |
| zzecool | you can join #ubuntu+1 too then | 23:23 |
| zzecool | there is too much bug hunting there too :P | 23:23 |
| krnekhelesh | oh ok | 23:24 |
| krnekhelesh | zzecool: nice discussion on the bug report...your points are valid..making intellihide default might confuse users, but they should leave it as an option | 23:28 |
| zzecool | true | 23:28 |
| krnekhelesh | they should definitely add a new option to the launcher behaviour being intellihide. | 23:29 |
| krnekhelesh | there have been some reports regarding the launcher is hidden on login which is confusing | 23:29 |
| krnekhelesh | and so many more | 23:29 |
| krnekhelesh | which can be solved with intellihide | 23:30 |
| zzecool | i know and believe me they know too | 23:30 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah | 23:31 |
| krnekhelesh | I am right now sending message on google+ to david calle and jorge castro | 23:31 |
| zzecool | jorge castro ... no | 23:31 |
| krnekhelesh | ? | 23:31 |
| zzecool | he is not with us on this one | 23:32 |
| zzecool | as i can remember reading some of his comments on omgubuntu | 23:32 |
| krnekhelesh | ok | 23:32 |
| mainerror | Wait, so it isn't a bug that the launcher is hidden after login? | 23:32 |
| krnekhelesh | there is a bug report stating that users having autohide on, are confused since the launcher is not present on login (hidden) | 23:33 |
| krnekhelesh | there were some comments which said that the launcher should be shown until the desktop loads completely before it is hidden | 23:34 |
| krnekhelesh | probably they might implement that | 23:34 |
| krnekhelesh | not sre | 23:34 |
| krnekhelesh | sure | 23:34 |
| zzecool | Their decision to remove Dodge was stupid and going to result in numerous bug reports | 23:34 |
| zzecool | this is my opinion | 23:34 |
| krnekhelesh | yh definitely | 23:34 |
| krnekhelesh | omgubuntu is down | 23:34 |
| zzecool | i know | 23:35 |
| krnekhelesh | wow | 23:35 |
| zzecool | now i remembered about jorge castro | 23:35 |
| zzecool | i was agaisnt him in the comment about ccsm | 23:35 |
| krnekhelesh | regarding the removal? | 23:35 |
| zzecool | he was asking the removal of CCSM from repositories | 23:35 |
| krnekhelesh | of ccsm from repos | 23:35 |
| zzecool | yes | 23:35 |
| krnekhelesh | ah | 23:35 |
| krnekhelesh | lots of controversies | 23:36 |
| krnekhelesh | seriously ppl are already complaining that unity is not configurable and now they are discussing about removing ccsm | 23:36 |
| mainerror | I totally agree with Jorge on that one though. | 23:36 |
| krnekhelesh | i think they should keep that in repos and may be provide warning messages | 23:37 |
| krnekhelesh | which they did now with an update | 23:37 |
| krnekhelesh | the user should be careful | 23:37 |
| zzecool | krnekhelesh: that was the best | 23:37 |
| zzecool | we can remove the only gui for configuring the compiz plugins without alternative | 23:37 |
| zzecool | cant* | 23:38 |
| mainerror | You can't expect users to be careful or to use your product as intended. Never. | 23:38 |
| zzecool | mainerror: its not installed byt default | 23:38 |
| krnekhelesh | mainerror: true but what about customizing unity? | 23:38 |
| mainerror | MyUnit. | 23:38 |
| krnekhelesh | zzecool: exactly | 23:38 |
| zzecool | Terminal can be even more deadly | 23:38 |
| zzecool | imagine "sudo rm - rF / " | 23:39 |
| krnekhelesh | mainerror: Tools like MyUnity has only recently come up..once they become more mature, they can they advise not using ccsm | 23:39 |
| zzecool | so we must remove terminal right ? | 23:39 |
| zzecool | to protect the user | 23:39 |
| zzecool | ..... | 23:39 |
| zzecool | i dont like this kind of logic | 23:39 |
| mainerror | No, it is not the same thing. | 23:39 |
| krnekhelesh | mainerror: anyways, now ccsm shows a warning message which I think is the right step | 23:40 |
| krnekhelesh | mainerror: also once tools like MyUnity, Ubuntu tweak become more and more popular, users will definitely use them instead of ccsm | 23:40 |
| mainerror | I'm still against CCSM, mainly because I know what the majority of people do with warning messages. | 23:40 |
| zzecool | mainerror: have you ever modified any of the compiz plugins ? | 23:41 |
| mainerror | Yes. | 23:41 |
| zzecool | mainerror: are you even better use any of them ? | 23:41 |
| zzecool | if ccsm is going to be remove how are you gonna modify them ? | 23:41 |
| zzecool | using gconf? | 23:41 |
| mainerror | I've even bricked Unity once or twice (and I'm not a newbie). | 23:41 |
| zzecool | so ? | 23:42 |
| mainerror | gconf is probably a better option than CCSM. | 23:43 |
| zzecool | CCSM is just a gui for gconf | 23:43 |
| zzecool | how can be better | 23:43 |
| krnekhelesh | zzecool: agree | 23:43 |
| mainerror | Right, the problem with GUIs is that if they are not well designed they can cause a lot of trouble. | 23:44 |
| mainerror | However, I'm going to leave the discussion since it apparently is a thing that depends on the personal point of view. | 23:45 |
| mainerror | Opinions. | 23:45 |
| krnekhelesh | yeah :) | 23:45 |
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