=== JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine === vivek is now known as pvivek [05:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp. In the section "Teaching Bazaar about you" this command is given [05:39] "bzr launchpad-login fchu". But before in no other section he speaks about Launchpad . And its the last section. Should i skip to last section first and then come back to this? [05:39] I would be very glad if someone can help me out. I really want to contribute to opensource === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit [12:32] I found two reports with a package update request (for the same package). The one with the highest version number request is 'In Progress'. Should I close the other (older) report as Duplicate? [12:32] veger: Yes, the one thats more active should be left open. [12:33] ok (luckily that is also the newer l [12:33] *one) [12:54] Anyone know if bug 926605 would be considered a duplicate of bug 824708 or not? While they are triggered in different ways, I assume they are both calling the underlying code resulting in the error. [12:54] Launchpad bug 926605 in aptitude "aptitude: failed to download the changlog of apt: Download queue destroyed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926605 [12:54] Launchpad bug 824708 in aptitude "Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824708 [12:55] s/the underlying/the same underlying/ === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:45] hi :) [14:45] Hello, [14:45] hi mainerror [14:45] If I have a bug which is similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/utouch/+bug/777074 [14:45] Launchpad bug 777074 in unity "Apple Magic Trackpad: pointer freezes on 3 or 4 finger touch using a "Cambridge Silicon Radio" bluetooth dongle." [Undecided,Invalid] [14:45] but with a different USB Dongle, should I add that information in that bug report? [14:48] Or should I create a new bug report for that? Doesn't sound right though. [14:54] hmm [14:57] i think add your information in that bug [15:16] mainerror: considering the bug was closed rather file a new one and mention the old bug in the new one === kees_ is now known as kees [16:15] Alright, I'll do that then. That was what bothered me, I thought that adding a comment to a closed bug will reopen it. [17:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/utouch/+bug/935569 [17:16] Launchpad bug 935569 in utouch "Apple Magic Trackpad: pointer freezes on 3 or 4 finger touch using a "Delock Bluetooth V2.1 + EDR" bluetooth dongle." [Undecided,New] [17:17] Filed a new bug for it and added all relevant information. [17:17] It can be closed now. [17:18] I've also marked it as a duplicate of 777074 [17:19] mainerror: marking it as a duplicate counts as closing it, just mention the other bug [17:20] I've mentioned it but I'm not sure if it should stay open since it is actually not even a valid bug. :) === vivek is now known as Guest46093 === Guest46093 is now known as pvivek [18:41] i have setup the environment to start off. I am a beginner. I want to start contributing to open source by fixing a few bugs. Would be very glad if someone can guide me as to which bug to take up and start working on [18:50] pvivek: Any open bug is good, as long as the status is not "In Progress". [18:51] Ampelbein : Thank you, i am searching for bugs from here http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ . Any other good place to find small bugs to get started with? [18:55] pvivek: a couple fo these are probably easy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+precise&field.tags_combinator=ALL [18:59] pvivek: check this page out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut [19:01] jtaylor , veger_ : Thanks a lot. Will start finding now === veger_ is now known as veger [19:42] what to do with a report asking to update a package of a proprietary application? Close as invalid and tell that it is impossible for us to update? [19:46] veger: What application and what bug in particular? [19:46] bug #572853 [19:46] Launchpad bug 572853 in teamspeak-client "Teamspeak 3 Needs Updated Version in Repo" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572853 [19:46] checked out their website and downloaded newest version, but it without any source... Version 2 was open source I think [19:49] I don't know the license of teamspeak, but if we (as Ubuntu) have the possibility to distribute the compiled binaries, it should be left open - quite like the closed source nvidia drivers. [19:52] they do not provide a (debian) package, but some self-extracting .run script. Suppose the teamspeak developers should provide the package themselves? [19:52] And in the license terms I read "You may not distribute TeamSpeak software otherwise over the Internet, unless you obtain prior written consent from TeamSpeak Systems GmbH or Triton CI & Associates, Inc. to do so." so I'd say: not possible. [19:52] yeah... :) [19:53] It's also possible to package a wrapper-script that downloads that *.run file and executes it, like it's done with the adobe Flashplayer. So I'd leave the report open. [19:53] that would be possible yes. Ok I'll leave it as it is === iceroot is now known as derbysieger [21:57] hello everyone [21:57] please can anyone mark this bug as a wishlist [21:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/904749 [21:57] Launchpad bug 904749 in unity "Add startup application should let you choose one from the launcher!" [Undecided,New] [21:57] thank u [21:58] krnekhelesh: done [22:14] please mark this bug as wishlist https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/925392 [22:14] Launchpad bug 925392 in unity "No keyboard shortcut for Session Menu" [Undecided,New] [22:15] may be even add tag "needs ayatana design" [22:15] I am not sure [22:26] anybody? [22:27] pls mark this bug as wishlist [22:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/925392 [22:27] Launchpad bug 925392 in unity "No keyboard shortcut for Session Menu" [Undecided,New] [22:51] krnekhelesh: what is the "session menu" i dont get what you are describing on the bug report [22:52] zzecool: i did not report the bug [22:52] however he is referrring to the indicator menu which shows system settings, shutdown etc [22:52] super + s = Expo plugin = reveal miniature of the workspaces [22:52] super + s never did this [22:52] at least on unity [22:53] i thought that as well...i suppose he is wishing for a keyboard shortcut for the indicator menu [22:54] should I mark the bug incomplete asking for more info? [22:54] i dont rly now [22:54] oh by the way could you have a look at this [22:54] if you are on the desktop without any application active [22:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/934549 [22:54] Launchpad bug 934549 in unity "The workspaces button should show the names of the workspaces, when clicked with the right mouse button" [Undecided,New] [22:55] f10 reveal the indicator menu [22:56] zzecool, when in the desktop without any application active, pressing f10 shows me the file, edit etc menu of ubuntu desktop [22:56] not the indicator menus [22:56] krnekhelesh: Are you search for the most "i cant understand what they say" bugs? [22:56] press your right key [22:56] multiple times [22:57] ofcourse if you press f10 and then right key it shows the indicator menu [22:57] yeap [22:57] and also the other bug i shared regarding the workspaces, i think it is redundant [22:58] since you can just press the workspace icon and go to whichever workspace you want [22:58] ? [22:58] The bug should be f10 should start form the right side of screen and instead of file to open the cog menu first [22:58] i guess yes [22:58] Fix it :) [22:59] the 1st bug or the 2nd one? [22:59] :) [22:59] YOu can ask him first or just fix the description [22:59] the 1st [22:59] ok i can do that [22:59] :D [22:59] and regarding the workspaces, probably you could just set is as wont fix [22:59] since it is redundant [23:00] i'll fix the other bug regarding the f10 shortcut [23:00] He is asking about the workspace name ? there is no such a thing [23:00] yeah [23:00] Mark it as incomplete and ask him what does he mean :) [23:01] ok [23:01] So you like bug hunting and triaging :P [23:01] yeah [23:01] gj [23:01] :0 [23:01] I joined the ubuntu bug squad last month [23:01] and like to help [23:01] Great you did [23:01] but thnx for ur help [23:01] np [23:01] im just a random bug hunter too [23:01] :) [23:02] nice [23:02] I focus mostly on unity since i use it a lot [23:02] if you can help me with press affect me too in some of my fav bugs [23:02] :D [23:02] sure [23:02] links? [23:02] ok [23:02] wait [23:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776 [23:03] Launchpad bug 933776 in compiz ""Super + W" window picker only shows local windows, not all." [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:03] first is this [23:04] done [23:05] thank you [23:05] the other one is a different situation [23:05] its about dodge to active window removal [23:05] if you know what im talking about [23:06] dodge to active window removal? [23:06] yeap [23:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/930148 [23:06] Launchpad bug 930148 in unity "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:06] read before you accept this one [23:06] read the comments and deside [23:07] The unity launcher used to have 4 different behaviors now only have 2 [23:07] they removed "dodge to window" and " dodge to active window" [23:08] oh yeah I think i read this today morning...its brilliant [23:08] and there are many ppl including me that we what this feature back [23:08] I really miss dodge behaviour [23:08] what is brilliant ?? >.< [23:08] ohh [23:08] i was scared for a moments [23:08] :D [23:08] moment* [23:08] i really support this bug [23:08] that's what i meant [23:08] Nice [23:08] i like you more nowe [23:08] now [23:09] :D:D [23:09] haha [23:09] You can also take place in the conversation below to the comments :) [23:09] I cant believe they removed the code for dodge since it confused some users [23:09] .... [23:09] I think dodge made unity more space efficient [23:09] this is 99% an excuse [23:09] exactly [23:10] There is something else fishy that they dont say [23:10] this cant be a serious reason [23:10] yeah, everybody like david calle and many other developers also miss this feature [23:11] And the best thing is why keep autohide instead of intelihide? [23:11] yeah [23:11] Read my comments [23:11] ok [23:11] and put yours too if you want [23:11] we need support on this bug [23:11] i will [23:11] because i see this as a bug [23:11] :) [23:12] will need some time to read through all the comments [23:12] ok [23:12] take your time :) [23:12] im going to make soem coffee [23:12] some [23:12] go ahead [23:13] If you have any connection with devs like david who like the dodge [23:13] point the to this bug report [23:13] :) [23:13] point them* [23:13] ok [23:13] i see him sometimes in google+ , will let him know [23:13] :D [23:23] krnekhelesh: are you using precise or oneiric? [23:23] precise [23:23] you can join #ubuntu+1 too then [23:23] there is too much bug hunting there too :P [23:24] oh ok [23:28] zzecool: nice discussion on the bug report...your points are valid..making intellihide default might confuse users, but they should leave it as an option [23:28] true [23:29] they should definitely add a new option to the launcher behaviour being intellihide. [23:29] there have been some reports regarding the launcher is hidden on login which is confusing [23:29] and so many more [23:30] which can be solved with intellihide [23:30] i know and believe me they know too [23:31] yeah [23:31] I am right now sending message on google+ to david calle and jorge castro [23:31] jorge castro ... no [23:31] ? [23:32] he is not with us on this one [23:32] as i can remember reading some of his comments on omgubuntu [23:32] ok [23:32] Wait, so it isn't a bug that the launcher is hidden after login? [23:33] there is a bug report stating that users having autohide on, are confused since the launcher is not present on login (hidden) [23:34] there were some comments which said that the launcher should be shown until the desktop loads completely before it is hidden [23:34] probably they might implement that [23:34] not sre [23:34] sure [23:34] Their decision to remove Dodge was stupid and going to result in numerous bug reports [23:34] this is my opinion [23:34] yh definitely [23:34] omgubuntu is down [23:35] i know [23:35] wow [23:35] now i remembered about jorge castro [23:35] i was agaisnt him in the comment about ccsm [23:35] regarding the removal? [23:35] he was asking the removal of CCSM from repositories [23:35] of ccsm from repos [23:35] yes [23:35] ah [23:36] lots of controversies [23:36] seriously ppl are already complaining that unity is not configurable and now they are discussing about removing ccsm [23:36] I totally agree with Jorge on that one though. [23:37] i think they should keep that in repos and may be provide warning messages [23:37] which they did now with an update [23:37] the user should be careful [23:37] krnekhelesh: that was the best [23:37] we can remove the only gui for configuring the compiz plugins without alternative [23:38] cant* [23:38] You can't expect users to be careful or to use your product as intended. Never. [23:38] mainerror: its not installed byt default [23:38] mainerror: true but what about customizing unity? [23:38] MyUnit. [23:38] zzecool: exactly [23:38] Terminal can be even more deadly [23:39] imagine "sudo rm - rF / " [23:39] mainerror: Tools like MyUnity has only recently come up..once they become more mature, they can they advise not using ccsm [23:39] so we must remove terminal right ? [23:39] to protect the user [23:39] ..... [23:39] i dont like this kind of logic [23:39] No, it is not the same thing. [23:40] mainerror: anyways, now ccsm shows a warning message which I think is the right step [23:40] mainerror: also once tools like MyUnity, Ubuntu tweak become more and more popular, users will definitely use them instead of ccsm [23:40] I'm still against CCSM, mainly because I know what the majority of people do with warning messages. [23:41] mainerror: have you ever modified any of the compiz plugins ? [23:41] Yes. [23:41] mainerror: are you even better use any of them ? [23:41] if ccsm is going to be remove how are you gonna modify them ? [23:41] using gconf? [23:41] I've even bricked Unity once or twice (and I'm not a newbie). [23:42] so ? [23:43] gconf is probably a better option than CCSM. [23:43] CCSM is just a gui for gconf [23:43] how can be better [23:43] zzecool: agree [23:44] Right, the problem with GUIs is that if they are not well designed they can cause a lot of trouble. [23:45] However, I'm going to leave the discussion since it apparently is a thing that depends on the personal point of view. [23:45] Opinions. [23:45] yeah :)