[00:40] <bkerensa> slangasek: Might you help me troubleshoot something? Since the freeze yesterday and a update I have found my system to be epic unstable
[00:40] <bkerensa> I cannot even do upgrades now
[00:40] <bkerensa> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main tk8.5 amd64 8.5.11-1
[00:40] <bkerensa>   Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[00:40] <bkerensa> DNS is resolving for most things but for some things it is not
[00:40] <slangasek> ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[00:41] <bkerensa> ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[00:41] <blkperl> doesn't ping from psu
[00:41] <bkerensa> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Feb 14 17:54 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[00:41] <slangasek> and is /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf present?
[00:41] <blkperl> oh wait nvm
[00:41] <bkerensa> blkperl: Yeah but its not just archive servers... My DNS has been timing out since yesterday
[00:41] <bkerensa> and I have tried a variety of DNS servers so I dont think it happens to be the dns servers im using
[00:42] <slangasek> and if it's missing, what does 'status resolvconf' show?
[00:42] <blkperl> maybe precise is buggy
[00:42] <slangasek> all software is buggy
[00:42] <blkperl> lol
[00:42] <bkerensa> slangasek: resolvconf start/running
[00:42]  * blkperl goes back to fighting with a passenger init script
[00:42] <slangasek> bkerensa: ok; cat /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:43] <bkerensa> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[00:45] <slangasek> bkerensa: Ubuntu desktop install?
[00:45] <slangasek> do you have the bind9 package installed?
[00:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: no
[00:46] <slangasek> using network-manager for networking?
[00:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: yes desktop install
[00:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: Yep... A stock desktop 12.04
[00:46] <bkerensa> :)
[00:46] <slangasek> is there a dnsmasq process running?
[00:46] <bkerensa> ahhh
[00:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: Not locally
[00:46] <bkerensa> :)
[00:46] <bkerensa> at the router level
[00:46] <bkerensa> :D
[00:47] <slangasek> hmm?
[00:47] <bkerensa> my router uses dnsmasq
[00:47] <slangasek> there's *supposed* to be a dnsmasq running
[00:47] <bkerensa> oh
[00:47] <slangasek> NM launches it
[00:47] <bkerensa> ok
[00:47] <slangasek> you've checked the process list and it's not there?
[00:47] <bkerensa> slangasek: Yes dnsmasq is running
[00:47] <bkerensa> :)
[00:47] <slangasek> ok
[00:48] <slangasek> hmm, trying to remember when else I've seen that error before
[00:48] <bkerensa> slangasek: Whatever the root cause is... Its only intermittent like if I go to a site sometimes it loads and sometimes I get a resolve error (regardless of browser)
[00:48] <slangasek> hmm
[00:48] <bkerensa> also when I try to do any name based commands via terminal like updates it fails and if I repeatedly try
[00:49] <bkerensa> it will eventually go through
[00:49] <bkerensa> same with browser.... (lots of refreshing for win)
[00:49] <slangasek> and NM shows your network connection as stable the throughout?
[00:50] <bkerensa> slangasek: Correct.
[00:50] <slangasek> does /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf list the nameservers you expect?
[00:51] <bkerensa> slangasek: Yes
[00:52] <slangasek> well, you could try editing /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to comment out the 'dns=dnsmasq' line
[00:52] <bkerensa> slangasek: ok
[00:52] <slangasek> then restart NM (sudo service network-manager restart)
[00:52] <slangasek> and check that /etc/resolv.conf is not pointing at 127.0.0.1 anymore
[00:53] <slangasek> that will rule out it being a dnsmasq problem.  I suspect you have a problem somewhere else that's not actually related to any Ubuntu updates though
[00:53] <slangasek> (and if removing dnsmasq doesn't fix it, I'm pretty certain it's not an Ubuntu bug)
[01:26] <slangasek> bkerensa: any news?
[01:35] <bkerensa> slangasek: No improvement
[01:35] <bkerensa> :( I will continue trying things
[01:35] <bkerensa> I'm going to swap out my router in the rare case it is causing issues
[01:36] <slangasek> yes, the problem is most likely not local to the machine
[02:14] <blkperl> grr i get this annoying my mouse in being held down until i switch windows
[02:14] <blkperl> and im not sure if i have a sticky touchpad or a its unity playing games with me
[02:31] <nibalizer> blkperl: almost certainly your fault :P
[02:31] <blkperl> nibalizer: you are a troll sir